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We’re handing over the reins of the show to our good friend Craig Blanchette (@CraigBlanchette) who has come up with and outlined his own show topic - His top 10 EDH Essentials!
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6:29 is when it starts
god.
From the Competitive EDH Subreddit:
"Instead of building a fast car to win the race, you fill the race track with manure and drive your tractor to victory.
That is stax."
Also, stax comes from $T4KS (aka the 4 Thousand Dollar Solution). Look it up. There's an SCG article on it.
that is the best possible way to describe it i have ever heard, thank you for sharing that, i am literally not breathing right now im laughing so hard
"$T4KS" is more than obviously an acronym, which forms a word that _already_ _exists_ (at least when vocalised - it's called an aPronym), being "Stacks" which more than obviously comes from Smokestack, since it was _the_ Vintage Stax finisher.
Maybe Stax comes from "$T4KS", but "$T4KS" ... more than obviously... comes from Smokestack and being a mathematician i like to go to the bottom of the matter, rather than ... what you did.
Timmy Wong, Johnny Lee Kwai and Spike Blanchette.
I enjoy the comments section of this channel immensely because the over all responses are very open and not usually egrading. I see several items on the tutor issue and here is my thoughts:
Arguments like this always boil down to the two different aspects that exist in EDH communities. Causal vs Competitive. As with all aspects of this game you adjust accordingly. In the Casual arena; fewer tutors makes the game have more of that random chance experience and slightly more balance for the group. For Competitive, you have to shove every available tutor you can into your deck. (obviously extremes to both ends). Rather then say the community as a whole should adjust; try talking to your meta group and adjust their first. See if changing the group dynamics change the repetitive tutor for combos. I think a lot of EDH issues boil down to the local communities not talking and setting some good standard acts of play. Yes showing up at your local store that is hard to do; but if you play with a group regularly at home or meet ups; talk to them about these issues cause your all probably thinking the same things.
Loved this episode. Thanks for the help guys, your passion for EDH has done so much for my love of the hobby.
I don't know if you'll see this but I just want you to know that I appreciate your work.
Green has The Great Aurora! I dunno if this was out before that card but ITS A GREAT RESET BUTTON
Puts you at advantage, you can float any extra mana, replay all your lands, and start with play advantage
Tamiyo's Journal works well as a tutor. Cheaper than Planar Portal. For 5 Colorless you basically get a demonic tutor with suspend 3 (assuming it stays in play). Plus it's flexible, as the clue tokens can draw you cards if that's what you need, and they're artifacts, which can be relevant.
Excellent episode guys, really like Craig's input, and the topic was very well developed and insightful. As far as the Emeria Shepherd vs. Sun Titan debate goes, the answer is, as with most arguments in Magic, it depends. I personally think that in 90%+ of decks and situations you would want Sunny T because like you said, he gets lands back and fetches (even slow ones like Evolving Wilds/Terramorphic Expanse) are heavily played in the format. Also, you can play him much earlier, he is more resilient (6/6 vs 4/4), has two triggers instead of one, and doesn't rely on you getting lands to operate. That being said, in landfall decks like Karametra, Emeris Shepherd is a house and can get you enormous resiliency and synergy.
Emeria Shepherd is quite a lot of fun with Burnished Hart becuase you can sac Burnished Hart to get 2 plains then return the Burnished Hart and some thing else and can loop this for only 3 mana.
Something I always try to make a category for is commander synergy and this is a category that is specifically based on your commander. Also another category I use is repitition, and this is a category in which I try to repeat needed effects for the deck.
As for the Emeria Sheppard Sun Titan debate. I'm a fan of the Sheppard in mono white decks and Sun Titan in multiple colored decks.
Mind slicer+sac outlet in a Meren deck that plays from the graveyard shuts down your opponents pretty well.
For someone who doesn't have an hour and 20 minutes to listen to something like this an accompanying article that sums up the main points would be amazing.
Bottled cloister and moonring mirror make a great combo, you exile your hand, then use the moonring mirror to exile your "hand" to return all the cards it's exiled to your hand.
If you guys like Snow Crash then definitely go read Neuromancer. It's the progenitor of the cyberpunk genre that Snow Crash and Netrunner are a part of, and more directly influences Netrunner than Snow Crash does.
I have a mono-white Bruna, the Fading Light deck and I use Sun Titan to bring back Plains to trigger Emeria Shepherd to get back whatever I want.
I accidently won two days ago, while trying to get my pili-pala/grand architect combo out. I realized I could tap the architect to make my signet a super-sol ring. It gave me the mana to set the combo off, and it was awesome.
+Joanna Winters I run no "take control of stuff" In my decks, because it is very bad-feeling. I had one game where I lost control of my god, and it stayed on other side of the table the rest of the game.
Phyrexian Vault, Jar of Eyeballs, Hell's Caretaker, Bloodletter Quill. 4 of my favorites for "tutoring/draw" effects, though I know they're pretty situational.
It would be soooo useful if there was a list of all the cards they talked about during this episode!
I often think that, but if they made a summary list people might be tempted to skip watching the videos entirely.
Alkaios Bournias Varotsis I'm skipping the video because they don't have a list. I'll find one elsewhere.
Sol ring, command tower, mana vault, mana crypt, sensei’s divining top, mirrorpool, seagate wreckage, toxic deluge, wrath of god, cyclonic rift, blasphemous act, Ezuri’s Predation, austere command, terminus, merciless eviction, Descend upon the sinful, Azusa, burgeoning, consecrated sphinx, gilded lotus, worn powerstone, Thran dynamo, signets, talismans, reliquary tower, entomb, nekusar, Hedron archive, propaganda, ghostly prison, glacial chasm, sidisi undead vizier, captain sisay, demonic tutor, vampiric tutor, planar portal, staff of domination, birthing pod, pattern of rebirth, defense of the heart, gamble, muddle the mixture, firemind’s foresight, drift of phantasms, fabricate, memnarch, blightsteel colossus, vedalken shackles, preacher, Enpress galena, helm of possession, willow satyr, corrupted conscience, treachery, Olivia voldaren, prossh Skyraider of Kher, purphoros, sadistic hypnotist, greater good, perilous forays, goblin bombardment, altar of demensia, Phyrexian tower, phyrexian altar, miren morning well, high market, diamond valley, karador, sun titan. Emeria Shepherd, Krosan verge, yawgmoth’s will, mizzix’s mastery, past in flames, regrowth, eternal witness, reanimate, snapcaster mage, Gisela blade of Goldnight, fatespinner, elesh norn, massacre wurm, aether flash, smokestack, butcher of malikir, martyr’s bond, Linvala, grace pact, stranglehold, karavek the merciless, aven mindcensor, plague wind, mindslaver, cyclonic rift again, insurrection, triumph of the hordes, tainted strike, phyresis, grafted exoskeleton, fog, craterhoof behemoth, exsanguinate, The Gitrog Monster, tooth and nail, pestermite and Kiki, and treskellion and Mikaeus.
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Josh: "Necronomicon is the book from uh the evil dead" oof ouch owie my HP Lovecraft lore
I have a Personal commander objective I keep in mind now. After making a bunch of deck and getting just hosed on mana I've resolved to have more "kick start" cards like rampant growth, sol ring, knight of the white orchid, ponder, brain storm, ext, just very low drops that can help push through a stall in the early game either by ramping, shuffling, or drawing some. I know these fit into different categories, but I can't tell you how many games I had T1 land, T2 land, T3-8 nothing then concede. Now that I've kept these low drop lil boosters in mind I've had much more consistent games.
Also Emeria Shepard is better because she has more wings.
Do you just have a summarized list of these cards? I appreciate listening, but I do not always have a pen available to write them all down.
one of my new favorite interactions is cyclonic rift(overloaded) with the new biorhyhm druid from dragons of tarkir
I own a Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder deck that runs an abundance of sac outlets, pain for my enemies, and protect yourself cards. Out of the categories, I'm most fond of sac outlets. Attrition is a card that hoses the board if needed. My meta has a few combo players, so Mind Slash nitpicks any combo piece they're holding in their hand. One of my most favorite creatures in the whole game of magic, Corpse Harvester, is a sac outlet that can tutor for any zombie in my library. Some of the zombies include: Sidisi, Undead Vizier, Mikaeus, the Unhallowed, Gray Merchant, etc. Hecatomb is definitely strange, yet effective in the late game. Having Urborg + ten other lands results in pinging the board to death & players to death. I feel for every problem that can occur in magic, there is a sac outlet to deal with it. That's why I love sac outlets.
Since Bottled Cloister has 2 separate text triggers, I believe it would function like Oblivion Ring or Fiend Hunter, thus exiling your hand permanently if the Cloister is removed before the 2nd trigger.
One category that you did not talk about was cards that strengthen Tribal themes.
It would be cool to talk about those cards in another Podcast.
I brewed up a tribal deck mostly consisting of bear tribal just because.
You should play Sun Titan and Emeria Shepherd! Make sure Sun Titan is in the graveyard by the time you get to cast Emeria and activate landfall. Bring back Sun Titan and use it to bring back a plains retriggering landfall. Add a sac outlet and a way to get plains consistently in to the graveyard and you can play two plains every turn!
In my green deck I use Nevyril's Disk (or however you spell it) and Ratchet Bomb as board wipes since they don't have any in green really.
When talking about board wipes you forgot All is Dust and Ugin, Ugin does a really good job for 7 mana. Also Nevinyrral's Disk.
You know you've lost a game when you tutor a basic land turn 7
I can't tell you how many times I've had to use a demonic tutor to find a basic swamp
I lost to Insurrection last Thursday. I was playing my Rhy's the Redeemed: TOKENS, TOKENS, TOKENS deck. I had at 15 various creatures on the field; dropped Craterhoof and killed two individuals couldn't kill the third do to pillow fort costs. He took his turn and case Insurrection...... womp womp... I died. My finisher was counter acted by another finisher; but at least it was a glorious game.
Great topic and refresher on the essentials. A few new cards to look at as always....
I generally agree that I would run a reliquary tower, but there are certain decks in which it makes a bigger difference than others. I currently only own 2 copies of reliquary tower, and I currently have 7 commander decks assembled (Xenagos God of Revels, Sidisi Undead Vizier, Nekusar the Mindrazer, Meren of Clan Nel Toth, Talrand the Sky Summoner, Daretti Scrap Savant, and Ezuri Renegade Leader). So with that in mind I have to employ it in the deck where it will have the most effect. SIdisi and Meren currently need more self mill and discard than they have at the moment (or Sidisi needs to lean on the graveyard less, but recycling Sidisi from the graveyard to keep replaying her without commander tax has been a winning line of play too often, making other graveyard interactions too tasty for a mono-black deck to pass up), so the addition of reliquary tower is a nonbo at the moment, when I solve those issue I will readdress the issue of reliquary tower and Meren. Daretti is heavier on rummage/loot than "proper" card draw, and I can dump my hand quickly enough that I have yet to discard a card to end of turn barring mana screw. Ezuri and Xenegos are both rarely in the position to need it, but Xenagos is getting better at refilling it's hand and it's only a couple small improvements away from it's favored deck status dragging one of them in, or causing me to purchase a new one, and with Xenagos running Kozilek I do care about explicitly colorless mana. Talrand avoids tutors on purpose (other than Tezzeret to search out mindlock orb) so I lean on a strategy that embraces interchangeability (counters, card draw, ramp, backup wincon, mass removal, steal, and land describes every card in the deck, and many cover multiples(Draining Whelk, Spelljack, Confirm Suspicions, etc)), so it definitely warrants one of my copies. My version of Nekusar is atypical, it's built to demonstrate how the concept of card advantage can be made irrelevant, and grind it out slowly with bleed on draw effects, but because of all the draw effects and heavy reliance on having backup boardwipes for your backup board wipes while keeping a counter in hand I will fill and need the extra storage space. I have more Thought Vessels (2 mana tap for a colorless, no maximum handsize) than Reliquary Towers, so everyone but Meren has one (and I have one waiting to go in Meren when I get the self-mill/discard issue fixed).
Honestly I feel that Thought Vessel is superior to Reliquary Tower if you were only to run one of the effect. It's generally better for your mana rocks to tap for colorless than your lands because you will have land before you have a mana rock (barring very expensive cards) and that makes a serious difference in deciding whether or not to keep a hand. Which is not to say that Reliquary Tower isn't absolutely as good as you guys have stated, but Thought Vessel is just as good for exactly the same reason, maybe better.
I've been doing a lot deck analysis lately and I'm really seeing Thought Vessel payoff. Last week, before FNM draft, I played out Tezzeret the Seeker specifically to search out Thought Vessel. Xenagos hit Kozilek with Nissa's Revelation and I put Thought Vessel right underneath Koz, and Ezuri has a few expensive card draw artifacts because actual mana costs aren't that important because the deck is better at making non-arbitrarily large amounts mana than actually winning at the moment.
I run a teysa deck, use "75%" junk tutors and none of the teysa combos because everyone hates them..... also expects them..... so I love comboing out for the win in unrelated ways, blood/bond a simple favorite. generally im a modern spike....ish. 8Rack is my pet love, but due to this podcast I've discovered a joy in EDH. please, if you ever get the chance, do a show about teysa, or better yet, one about commanders you rarely use or use only to mislead 😁
I am always so curious about the art used as the shifting background. I recognize many cards, but some art I don't recognize. How do I figure out what the art is from?
I removed Sun Titan for Emeria, I find the combo with Sad Robot and Burnished Hart gives me amazing value. But even when that does not go off, having something that can fly and also recursion that my playgroup removes far less reliably than they remove would remove a Sun Titan makes the extra cost worth it.
BURGEONIG!!! Thanks to that card, and the alignment of the stars or some shit, I played my commander, OMNATH, on T2; due to my starting hand being 6 lands and Burgeoning (and T2 draw Sol Ring - 5 player game)
I run both Sun Titan and Emeria Shepherd in my Zur the Enchanter deck. Sun Titan is great for all my enchantments cmc 3 or less. Emeria Shepherd is great for everything else, like Helm of Obedience.
Can you do an updated episode of this? I'm just curious what staple cards are not as good anymore as they were 5 years ago
I have a Modern tribal deck that uses Captivating Vampire to take control of creatures. I didn't know Olivia Voldaren, so now I'm imagining how many friendships I can end using Olivia and Captivating Vampire in EDH xD
Ok, in case no one pointed this out, Talrand and Mizzix only trigger when you cast an instant or sorcery, copying one with mirror pool just creates another on the stack.
I'm going to run Emeria Shepherd alongside Gitrog and Knight of the Reliquary now in my Karador deck...
It's literally Craig's list
Rival617 You... you are my people
Greg list *
How many languages were there on the warning segment in the beginning.
Dont forget the 10 to 20 cards you can select on your own in the end to individuilize your deck, yeah!
A reason why Emeria Shepard is better? The wombo combo with a sac outlet and Solemn Simulacrum. Imagine this game: sac outlet early, let's say ashnod's altar. Turn 4 you play solemn simulacrum. Turn 8 you put out Emeria Shepard, sac solemn simulacrum to draw a card and generate 2 colorless, and then play a plains, which triggers Emeria Shepard, returning solemn. in response to Solemn's ETB trigger, you sac solemn, and then when you put the plains down you do it again, getting all basic lands in your deck onto the battlefield tapped and drawing that many cards (and generating a bajillion mana if you're using ashnod's altar). That being said, they're both awesome and they are powerhouses in my Reya Dawnbringer deck.
Awesome right up! 🤘🏽
I approve of the elvish script and dwarven runes on the WARNING segment.
+ernilmenegil I wondered if anyone would catch the Alienese, Sindarin and Khuzdul translations. Congrats ernilmenegil, you win some cards! Send your name and address to commandzone@rocketjump.com and I'll personally send you a few packs
Protect yourself: No Mercy/Michiko Konda. They don't necessarily help if the damage you would take is lethal anyway. But I find them a good deterrent from pings of damage that could add up.
Sacrifice Outlets: Ashnod's Altar/Goblin Bombardment, Vampiric Rites. Phyrexian Altar also exists but I avoid it right now for budget constraints. I also really like Vampiric Rites to help advance the game but prefer Ashnod/Goblin when I want the quick sac. Goblin Bombardment has the added benefit of interacting with planeswalkers and Ashnod is generic.
Play from the Graveyard: I actually haven't used this option as much so the only thing coming to mind right now is Dread Return. Shoutouts to Drownyard temple as well for fun times with Gitrog Monster.
Mana Ramp: Tempt with Discovery. I tend to be a political player and this card has put in insane amounts of work for me. Absolute favorite. Second favorite would be Chromatic Lantern for the color fixing.
Card Ramp: Fecundity/Skullclamp. I play Prossh mainly but these cards are ridiculous in any token deck or deck with easy sac fodder generation.
STAX: Reality Acid. Favorite card with Brago if I'm in a spiteful mood. Hard to hit permanents like Sensei's Divining Top but when you can enchant any permanent, not much loss there.
Take Control: Another option I haven't utilized as much but I found Thalakos Deceiver to be exceptional in my Marchesa deck.
Find What You Need: Tezzeret the Seeker/Captain Sisay. Tezz is absolutely amazing for my Brago deck getting whatever artifacts I need from Strionic to Sundial of the Infinite. I didn't realize Captain Sisay searched out anything legendary and as soon as I found out, I went on to make a deck around her.
Game Enders: Tooth and Nail and sealed many games for me. Alongside Food Chain and Prossh. But a combination I really enjoy is Seedborn Muse and Vedalken Orrery, absolutely amazing in my Mayael deck and practically anything with green in it.
Honorable mention to Vedalken Orrery, you can't cheat it out as with say Leyline of Anticipation but I really like flash and the card helps a lot.
what about "table politics"? cards you play because, at least in your play group, they will help negotiate with people or make an opponent not want to mess with you, like tempts and curses (i know most don't play these examples, but they are just examples) and anything that "gifts" things
i think you guys should talk about under appreciated card like the new Odrich is super broken and he's only 99 cents.
Another combo I really like is natural infinity with massacre wurm
Is there any kind of template to start a new deck? how many of each of this essential does a deck need?
I generally have a section of my deck of Political play. Things like Split decision, or an assault suit give you a lot of power at the table to influence other players style of play.
* I have a Tymaret deck that runs around 8 different "grab" effects that overlap with his sac effects. Yet only now have I realized I should really throw in some ways to give him Infect.
* Kamigawan cards like Miren take their names from Japanese, Japanese only has one way to pronounce each vowel. Furthermore, this pronunciation overlaps with how you say those vowels in Spanish; it's pronounced "Mee-ren," not 'Myron"
* Emeria Shepherd could get a lot worse if you're grabbing lands from an attacking Sun Titan.
* I have a Gisella deck. The earliest I've ever gotten her out was turn four. It also runs Stranglehold and Aven Mind Censor.
* I used to run a deck that combined Spell Shock, AEther Flash and Impatience with CoP: Red.
* One category I feel you may have missed would be effects that protect your commander; the one card that most EDH decks rely upon. See cards like Swiftfoot Boots or Asceticism for examples. If I only have space for one, I'll go with Sun Titan more often than not.
asceticism should be banned lol absolutely stupid card
Empress Galina now snatches planeswalkers as well =)
I have a mimeoplasm deck that likes to dump cards in the graveyard and I found that reliquary tower was holding me back.
i play Grinning Totem in my derevi deck. I feel it is totaly underrated. it allows me to search my opponents deck for answers
Reliquary tower good in basically all decks. But given other utility lands available, i almost never run it. 7 is plenty when it's the best 7
I think a good edh deck always have at least a pinch of nice vorthos flavor, and wins with style :)
solemn simulacrum, and burnished hart are great for none green decks that needs ramp, and they don't force you to keep artifacts on the board to stay ramped.
Sun Titan Vs. Shepard; They are both great, Titan is usually played mid-game as a way to bring back lost pieces targeted by other players. Emeria is potentially a stronger endgame piece since it can actually lead to combos and the such but a cool little value play is "landfall Titan back then bring back another beauty" this is wonderful since you are diversifying your investments letting your opponent have to choose between getting rid of her or Titan. I would probably "landfall a fetch" while Titan is in the grave, this lets you play her effect at instant speed witch usually insures that you have optimum input on the board state in case anything goes down(board wipe etc.).
With emeria Sheperd I managed to get a hedron archive back like 3-4 times after cycling it
if I ran a lot of fetch lands, I'd make space for both. Think about it. Recur fetch alnds with titan, the get double landfall!
I kinda expected this but for the take control section you missed out It that betrays. I love it even though it’s a 12 drop
Marwyn, the Nurturer and build an elf deck. Nice ramp and a big creature eventually.
i am a fan of podding Sun Titan to get Emeria, dropping a plain than getting sun titan back with Emeria :)
What?
And then getting another plains and getting back something else.
Birthing pod a sun titan to search for Emeria then play a plains and get sun back
What archetype of cards/deck is the photo from 3:45 from ??
I feel like Wheels should be a Category. and my favorite Wheel card is Barbed Shocker. Especially in my Saskia deck when i give him double strike and unblockable.
Planeswalkers are Legends too!
What would you consider Thieves Auction or Confusion in the Ranks like cards which can drastically put your opponents on Tilt or drive the game in a different direction but aren't boardwipes?
+cz75fanatic I don't think that'd be considered an essential part of most decks.
Answers.... you have to have answers to all sorts of situations. Swords to plowshares, vindicate, unmake, sweepers...ext
I like to to meddle with lands like ritual of subdual and hall of gemstone in mono green
i think about josh lee kwai before i go to bed at night
Yawgmoth's Will can not be reprinted because it is on the Reserved List
How is this different from the edh staples video?
triumph of the hordes is still useful with two creatures if you got a Xenagos and a fatty on the field.
I’m watching this 6 years later and I want to see how this have changed
emeria shepherd or sun titan why choose? both definitely both
Please do a riku of two reflections episode. he has so many intresting ways to build around him, and he is very popular. :O
Sun titan all day. there are a handfull of cards (Immortality comes to mind) thatwhen combined with sun titan and your favotrite sac outlet go infinite.
what is the video at the beginning?
for gain control ive been enjoying grave betrayal in blue black zombies its been fun
With new ruling captain sisay could be a really good card in superfriends
has anyone else noticed how many of the cards in your commander intro stuff was reprinted in modern horizons? coincidence? I think not.
No o-stone or disk listed for wrath?
Well The greatest thing I've ever done with Emeria Shepherd was play it crack Myriad Landscape get 2 plains get back knight of the white orchid and solemn and get 2 more plains and get back Hedron archive and Command Sphere and then crack them to draw three and get Fetch/Swords/Sun titan. Felt pretty great, my opponents were thoroughly disgusted with the amount of value.
So two corrections you guys should consider, otherwise this is GREAT information:
1) Any mana in EDH (read the rules) that is of a color other than your commander's color identity that is in your mana pool is "the diamond" mana as you called it, colorless mana is also the mana Sol Ring produces, etc. So it isn't that hard to get it.
2) You guys get quieter and quieter as the video goes on, so consider comparing amps at various times to make sure everything is consistent, even volume levels.
At 31:35 Jimmy says "Especially in decks that are really (something) heavy"... what's he saying and what does it mean? I've been trying to find out for so long!
Johnny Heavy. Which is just combo heavy I guess. Like the slang for player types Timmy, Johnny and Spike.
that Genghis Khan song is like amazing
Sun Titan vs Emeria Shepard
Its depends on how you build your deck. I think Emeria is better because you do not have to attack just get lands into play. I can see Emeria being the most powerful in a Selesnya or Abzan deck where you have a lot of land-based ramp and stuff is getting dumped into the graveyard. when you build the deck you can be mindful of putting cards that have plains in the type also ie Canopy Vista, Scattered Grove, and Temple Garden. If you have a lot of powerful cards 3 cmc or less sun titan might be good
I run both Emeria Shepherd and Sun Titan
for prosh, food chain is a crazy good sack outlet
also for a good combo with sun titan to fight against board wipes with you big creatures out use colfenor's urn, it's also really good with yosei on the field too
I like Emeria Shepherd, mostly cause of my commander Karametra
Toxic Deluge is the black one? what about damnation? I thought that was the black one, crux of fate is damnation's cheaper brother, you just have to pick the non-dragon part of the card, or the dragon one, depending on your situaton, if you play zombies and they play dragons, then its one sided wrath :)
sun titan vs emeria shepard. I love both cards, and if you are playing one, you should probably be playing the other in your deck too. I do enjoy being able to put any CMC permanent onto the battlefield. I know white does not have much ramp, but we all know there is ramp in artifacts and in the best color to have in every deck...green. so getting her out pre turn 8 is quite easy if you have a little bit of ramp. and, if you are playing something like explosive vegetation, you ramp beyond that, as well as throw more things onto the battlefield. I guess in the end, it comes down to what you prefer to play. Do you like really big creatures, and cheating them out onto the battlefield?!? We all know that cheating stuff into play is fantastic, especially when they are really big fun creatures, or very strong enchantments.
I personally love Tempt With Discovery. Most of the time when I play this, all my opponents search too. Suddenly instead of paying 4 for 1 land, I'm searching for 4 lands. Any lands, not just basics
+Zadok Little We have a player who uses it. Our table works the same way, but the problem is that he plays Temur and grabs some dual lands-- while the black deck grabs Urborg or Cabal Coffers. And then, unless somebody goes off everybody focuses down the guy who's three land drops ahead of everybody else in a deck full of bombs.
+Kestral287 well I'm the guy who grabs urborg and cabal coffers. Sometimes I get things like bojuka bog or other utility lands depending on the situation
Sun titan Vs Emeria Shepherd... why not both? XD (The shepherd if your base color is white or your deck is bi colored)
Evasion should probably be a category ?
Seagate and bottle nets 3 cards for 4 mana. Seems good enough for edh and like josh said Boros is hard pressed
Erik Chupela See this is why I play Sram and 35 draw spells.
Can't you just play the spell that makes any card that would enter the graveyard this turn go back into your hand for "Yawgmoth's Will"?
52:40 yawgwoth
Why do I like this way of saying it better?