The most fun thing about UB stat spreads is that they are entirely composed of prime numbers. It's a very clever way of keeping with the alien thematic on the part of GameFreak.
@@ElectricWindGirlFriend I believe Naganadel is the only exception as one of its stats (121 speed) is a prime power rather than a prime number. Probably for the best, could you image if it's 121 speed was 151, letting it's total match the other UB's at 570.
Yeah, it makes their stats "off" in a way that you'd have to be completely anal to actually notice. Even the one non-prime is still not divisible by 5 like every other base stat in the series (discounting Shedinja's HP, which doesn't use the normal stat formulas anyway)
@@HeraldOfOpera Did...you just say that every other base stat in the series is divisible by 5? that has never, ever, been even remotely close to being true
@@incandescence5547 I was going to say he was clearly being hyperbolic, but the "discounding shed's HP" clause means he wasn't hyperbolic at all. How can one person be so confidently wrong on the internet?
Part of the reason is many of them don’t have any eyes, which I wanna say has never happened in a previous gen (there’s probably something I’m forgetting though)
@@minhsu6082 I get what you're saying, but the Regi's "eyes" are still likely to register as eyes to the human brain which always looks for and sees faces in things that aren't there. Also, Bronzong very clearly has eyes in its design.
It's similar to how Digimon did Appmons which allowed them to justify a different design philosophy for that spin off series(?). Honestly I learned this from some other person like a decade ago, and never looked that deep into it, but thought it was interesting.
ah yes, we have: • evil jellyfish • pokey pokey • the wall • 🤡 • visually stronk bug • competitively stronk bug • literally just a clump of wires, like that's it • le om nom nom • some bamboo rocket thing, i guess? • ferrothorn part 2: attack edition
Celesteela is based on the story “The tale of the bamboo cutter.” In which a bamboo cutter discovers a princess from the moon in a bamboo shoot and eventually she grows up and goes back to the moon. Which is why it has both bamboo and rocket elements, and also why it has a feminine face. Because it’s a girl who was found in bamboo who uses rockets to return to the moon.
God I wish I was a fly on the wall when they gave direction to the voice actor. "Just scream. Really really loud. Like stepping on Lego and being kicked in the nuts at the same time kind of scream."
I remember when Ultra Beast were first revealed, people didn’t even believe they were Pokémon. They looked so out there, so against every design principle in Pokémon that we thought they had to be boss fights or something. When they actually had stats and moves people were shocked.
My favourite part about Ultra Beasts is that whatever design philosophy is in place, Ultra Beasts are clearly ignoring it. It's like how you can tell apart 90% of fake pokemon leaks from real ones just by how they're designed except they're actually real
If there's a diegetic reason, I'm down for insane, bullshit Pokemon designs. Like big, cartoon blush being functional organs on electric rodents? genius! I'm just mad that Bruxish didn't have zebra stripes like actual Dazzling camouflage. the rest of its bullshit design looks like actual various stupid fish
The idea of alien Pokemon from other dimensions is just dope. I also love the UB classifications for some reason (I honestly call them by those more than their actual names)
They remind me of SCP’s when I call them by their UB classification names. The fact that you had to contain them in special pokeballs (thumual) makes it even more like SCP.
I believe that one reason the ultra beasts have such crazy stats is because the base stats are all prime numbers. So that leaves less flexible wiggle room for “balancing”
I recently saw it pointed out that Sun and Moon often deal with the idea of invasive species, and Ultra Beasts are the logical endpoint of that theme. Made me appreciate them a lot more.
I find it funny how Nihilego is a Rock/Poison type ultra beast that doesn't really look like a Rock type and only sorta like a poison type but not that much, and then gen 9 released glimmora who looks even more like an ultra beast, even less like a rock type, and even more sorta like a poison type but not that much, and glimmora is just better than it
Well Nihilego is an organic glass creature, which adds to the weirdness of ultra beasts (like Kartana being living paper) and Glimmora is based on crystal structure that looks like flowers made of a toxic chemical.
That's because ultra beasts are intentionally weird and in nihilego's case - it's a glass jellyfish wearing a white hat & a sun dress. So: Glass = rock Jellyfish = poison (like tentacruel before it) Designed after something weird like a hat & dress combo = ultra beast.
@@jaernihiltheus7817 my point was that the Non-ultrabeast Glimmora felt even more like an ultra beast than nihilego, and it being rock type feels even less fitting than nihilego at first even though both of them make sense
Xurkitree is by far the funniest pokemon in existence. It’s like if you took rampardos software and ran it on Regieleki hardware. He’s probably the most goofy sinister pokemon in existence and he should get access to quiver dance
My favorite example of how minmaxed Ultra Beast stats are is how Kartana would run 0 attack timid nature in Gen 7 VGC just to get the Speed Beast Boost. The attack drop wouldn’t even matter since it has 181 attack and it could just swords dance back up to compensate
One of my favorite add campaigns ever is the analog horror like series of Pokemon go ads about ultra beasts sightings Highly reccomend checking them out
I will never be mad about Mosa. She made Salamence and Garchomp shake in fear as a goddamn BUG by threatening with an uninvested Ice Beam. Fuck your dragons, fear the roach.
how the fuck did they make all these mons and then guzzlord's stat spread i'm gonna hurl, how do you make a mon 4x weak to fairy and then make it slow, frail and weak
I think they wanted one that had a ton of HP and Gustl looks spooky. But they should have given it a better typing. Maybe something went ground and water could have given it a better usage.
Should've been like 151/167/73/73/67/59 A monstrous physical mighty glacier build that properly matches its design, basically rampardos with actual bulk, but you'll still have to be careful. I don't think it'll be that op in a fairy infested metagames.
Buzzswole is one of the funniest designs ever. The idea of a mosquito that sucked so much blood that it went from a mere insect to “mom said it’s my turn on the xbox” makes me laugh every time I look at it.
Ultra Beasts reminds me of Gen1 glitch mons in a way. Both are strange to look at and are "not supposed to be here" in a way, and both usually have some very out-there stats, often including at least 1 ridiculously high stat.
Buzzswole was so OP in Almost Every Ability with Triage since it gave him priority on leech life and drain punch. Which makes me wish Buzzswole really got Triage as a hidden ability.
"Pheromosa is Flutter Mane," but far better designed imo. It's still far too strong for OU, but its weaknesses are very exploitable, unlike Flutter Mane. Pheromosa's defensive typing is far worse and it's bulk is absurdly low. Butterfree is bulkier than it. Yes, Butterfree.
"What, why?" Because their Base Stats are all prime numbers. Dunno if it's true for Poipole and Naganadel specifically, since they're special, but it's the case for the others if I'm not mistaken.
Naganadel's speed is the only exception, and it still isn't divisible by 5 like every other base stat that actually gets called by the normal function.
@@phyllotaxis unfortunately you can't make it only out of only fully evolved pokemon because alolan marowak and blacephalon aren't in SV so you'll have to replace them with litwick and lampent
Fun fact Some people used kartana a 19 attack IV max speed timid nature to proc speed boost from beast boost in tournaments Same thing in VGC where Stakataka ran 17 def IV with lonely nature to proc attack boost Gamefreak kind of learnt their lesson and made sure brute bonnet never gets a speed boost from Protosynthesis
I wish they would give Ultra Beasts another chance. Yeah it's obvious that Paradox Pokémon are just "UBs But More Balanced*" so much so that they forced UBs to sit this gen out as to not steal the thunder of the Paradox Pokémon, but UBs are SO much more interesting aesthetically. More specifically, I love that they were literally made to defy our collective unconscious expectation of what a Pokémon should look like and IMO they knocked it out of the park. I fondly remember before the Gen 7 games came out and all the info we had on the UBs were magazine sized posters of a couple of them with code names to match. Their designs and the way they were presented made them out to be so alien that there was speculation that they weren't Pokémon at all so you couldn't even catch them and were instead just big scripted boss battles like the Poké Star Studios bosses were. It really screwed with us and made our imaginations run wild. They really said "You see this bundle of cables without a face? This is a Pokémon. Deal with it." Based af. UBs broke the mold, but unfortunately, they also broke the game. I think a lot of that has to do with the admittedly dumb gimmick where all of their stat spreads were prime numbers whose sum was 570. There's only so many configurations of said prime numbers below 255 that can do that and they're all stupidly "spikey". I don't think re-balancing them for a comeback is impossible though. For example, now that GF is officially in the business of Thanos Snapping moves from specific Pokemon's move pools, they could absolutely take away the really stupid moves, like Nasty Plot from Naganadel or Swords Dance from Kartana. Another idea is to nerf Beast Boost to only boost a stat once per appearance in battle, even after multiple knockouts, or make the boost a 30% boost instead of a full stat stage, or even both. Granted those are just nerfs I know Game Freak would reasonably implement. Were it up to me, Beast Boost would go in the trash and they'd all have their own unique Abilities instead, as it was always difficult for me to suspend my disbelief that alien creatures from drastically different home worlds would all have the same Ability. Thanks for reading my gushing/rambling.
Staka in nat dex is such a cheat code. He’s like BW reun on roids in trick room. Being double res to rocks is basically the same thing. Trick room. Then both stabs are flinch happy between head and slide, and heat crash is goated. Fine vs heatran since - minus 14 def can be all invested in spedef after u max out atk. -rock slide is still good damage, iron head is dandy vs standard Terras. Fighting, water, whatever else would be pretty bad for iron head. And then balloon terra ghost, the quad weak/ bliss line (just the terra for the pinks) savior.
i was thinking how neat if would have been if we had UB and the paradoxes but i thought of how much cool theming pokemon has with their creatures all in one series
I have nothing insightful to add here, so I'm just going to share my favorite bit of trivia. The base stats of all the Ultra Beasts are all prime numbers, except, oddly enough, for Naganadel with a base Speed of 121... which happens to be a perfect square. Also, if you're wondering, despite being told explicitly that it's *not* an Ultra Beast, Necrozma's base stats are also all prime numbers, except for both Dusk Mane and Dawn Wing Necrozma having a base speed of 77. (Ultra Necrozma goes back to having prime numbers, though.)
Some of the most fun I’ve ever had with this game was in low ladder doubles games where a couple opponents would somehow let me get a choice specs modest max spatk blacephalon in drought + tailwind next to charjabug and instantly kill everything on the screen with mind blown
The concept of UBs is actually terrifying lore wise. Pheromosa and Buzzwole are basically another dimension's version of early game bugs (most obvious being Caterpie and Weedle lines), and yet are extremely destructive when transported to a more mundane dimension like mainline pokemon's. Xurkitree has a whole-ass forest of themselves... Crazy.
My favorite Kartana Tech is that one of its best strats is to lower Attack Investment so you can get Beast Boost to activate +1 Speed so you can’t get outsped by anything, and then using Swords Dance to compensate
I miss Celesteela and Xurkitree so much. In this 9 gen Xurkitree could have recovered Tail Glow. Celesteela is another fun pokemon in design and competitive, I ran mixed variants with it in the ultramoon era with WP to defeat Heatran from an earthquake
i very much like both stakataka and buzzwole, because imo they're very well balanced. they both have typings riddled with weaknesses and each make up for it rather well with their individual traits. and if they have to min max for me to have a viable steel/rock on my all steel team then so be it
I love the UBs a REAL lot. My personal favorite being Xurkitree. Fun fact: in SM and USUM, this thing had access to TAIL GLOW, thats right, the move that raises your special attack by a whopping 3 stages in a single move. Granted, Xurkitree's sucky defenses and speed mean its probably not gonna live to make use of that, but if you can somehow get a tail glow off safely, it will freaking nuke!
Stakataka is awesome. I have fond memories of using an absolutely stupid team in Gen 8 AG that mostly revolved around this guy: The Wall (Stakataka) @ Shuca Berry Ability: Beast Boost EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD Brave Nature IVs: 0 Spe - Trick Room - Gyro Ball - Stone Edge - Earthquake If it wasn’t fully set up, I swapped in a flying or ghost type to read ground or fighting attacks, and Dynamax allowed for absurd defensive options, by giving me a way to boost its defensive stats and set up sandstorm without switching out. The shock value alone won me some games, because people who definitely could have beat me forfeited after losing a couple Pokémon.
The only thing keeping Kartana from being Ubers material is that if you think about clicking a Fire move it dies, and has nowhere near the special bulk of Ferrothorn to try EVing for that. It also helps that Heatran is pretty much only scared of Sacred Sword and neither of its STABs (both puns unintended). Meanwhile Blacephalon either gets a kill, gets six kills, or dies horribly, and is still talking to its therapist about Sucker Punch
Xurkitree was always my fave. The only one who didn't get min-maxed. Comparing his stats to Nidoking just shows how extremely balanced they made his base stats and then they dumped 173 Special Attack onto him becauses thats just how much they had left.
I love the Ultra Beasts so much!! Their designs are so fun, being based on alien movie tropes + invasive species. And they all look super out there and truly alien when put among other Pokémon, even compared to other aliens like Deoxys and Beheeyem. I hope one day we get more of them, potentially when revisiting Alola.
Man why did you have to say you were in middle school during SM? Now I feel old 😭 Jokes aside the UB were an amazing addition to pokemon, a great way to stretch the conventional designs with a tight theme to go with it.
I feel lile Xurkitree would have been OU in gen 9 or at least a good choice, simply because he can blow up most of the top threats out of the field (great tusk gets annihilated bh energy ball, and a strong thunderbolt 2hko almost anything), and having a special nuke is always good.
Gotta love the best play in pokemon: killing your own stakataka with kartana to get a boost + reset fake out pressure. Absolutely genius. also why does boingus say kartana was legal in gen 9 at 3:04, am i stupid?
Minor thing about the ultra beasts you didn't mention because it has nothing to do with their battles is the encounter areas for them in the ultra games. Nihilego gets the area from the base s/m games, which is cool and most of them get areas that are just wacky and insane, like buzzwhole, xurkitree, pheromosa, celesteela but then there's GUZZLORD. Guzzlord's area is so cool, my god. When you first get there, a single guy is present - with a suit that resembles Guzzlord. He thinks he recognizes you, but realizes you are a different person from the one he knows (from a different... world, perhaps?). Then you leave the pipe and its literally a completely destroyed and eviscerated Hau'oli city, down to the electronic monitors still trying to chirp out their advertisements and the music being the same as Hau'oli city, but backwards. Considering you live in the outskirts of said city, its no surprise there is a version of you from this world. I just think it was such a bold move to just... display the power of these beasts directly by directly SHOWING the player the devastation they can cause (and we all know how much the series in this modern age actually hates showing stuff, since thats more effort for cutscenes and all). It's similar to what the paradox pokemon were supposed to cause if they escaped in S/V, but you actually get to see the side effects.
Stakataka is an awesome Pokémon it's such a fun design and it's a giant brick cube made of sentient bricks which can flip out as eyes top 10 Pokémon of all time I think
Yknow I thought this was about the implications of UBs in the Pokémon world like world building wise and the effects they’d have on humans and Pokemon alike But this is freaky too lol
I want a Pokemon Legends where the games is happening in Ultra Space, where your starter is an ultra beast, where you explore all the weird environments, and that you fight and catch only ultra beasts.
Definitely my favorite subclass of Pokémon, as much as I love the paradox mons, they just can’t beat the beasts. And hey, this may be a completely out there theory that’s bordering on tinfoil hat kinda shenanigans, but the fact that legends arceus gave a legend a new member one gen up has got me thinking we may finally see more of these weirdos soon.
"Actually reasonable Physical Bulk" this mf has the same Defense stat as Great Tusk and known bigot Ferrothorn, even with 59 HP, this thing can take a lot of hits, especially since it resists half the fucking game. Also, Kartana's attack was REALLY understated, now that Megas are gone it's the highest in the game, and even when they were still around it was still No3
Celesteela is basically what happens when Skarmory, Ferrothorn, and Heatran have a baby and through a freakish genetic accident it inherited all their best traits EXCEPT the ability to set hazards.
While we’re on gen 7 how about a powerpoint on the og “le funny water move ohko pokemon” araquanid, aka fish mk. 1. He may pale in comparison to his bigger, older, and much funnier looking sequel (luv u boingus), but in his day he was still a menace
in the photo club. straight up "xurking it". and by "it", haha, well. let's just say. My tree
*no buzzer*
@@theradicalbanana9476correct chime
Who up Xurkin they tree rn?
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Yeowch!!!!!
The most fun thing about UB stat spreads is that they are entirely composed of prime numbers. It's a very clever way of keeping with the alien thematic on the part of GameFreak.
Wait that’s sick af what
@@ElectricWindGirlFriend I believe Naganadel is the only exception as one of its stats (121 speed) is a prime power rather than a prime number.
Probably for the best, could you image if it's 121 speed was 151, letting it's total match the other UB's at 570.
Yeah, it makes their stats "off" in a way that you'd have to be completely anal to actually notice. Even the one non-prime is still not divisible by 5 like every other base stat in the series (discounting Shedinja's HP, which doesn't use the normal stat formulas anyway)
@@HeraldOfOpera Did...you just say that every other base stat in the series is divisible by 5? that has never, ever, been even remotely close to being true
@@incandescence5547 I was going to say he was clearly being hyperbolic, but the "discounding shed's HP" clause means he wasn't hyperbolic at all. How can one person be so confidently wrong on the internet?
"When I played these games as a middle schooler"
oh my god I'm so _old_
If I don't look at 3DS game release dates they can't hurt me
*Procceds to rapidly grow a greying beard*
I about died when that got said
Looks up when the games came out. That's when I graduated. *Ages rapidly*
My brain still files these games under "new" and gives me existential dread every time I realize these are 7 years old
Ultra Beasts are SOO funny in how they are designed, they do truly feel alien in their design compared to other pokemon.
Part of the reason is many of them don’t have any eyes, which I wanna say has never happened in a previous gen (there’s probably something I’m forgetting though)
@@terdragontra8900 technically the regis also dont really have any eyes, which makes then feel alienlike as well, oh Bronzong also exists
@@minhsu6082But Bronzong has little red eye things
@@minhsu6082 I get what you're saying, but the Regi's "eyes" are still likely to register as eyes to the human brain which always looks for and sees faces in things that aren't there. Also, Bronzong very clearly has eyes in its design.
It's similar to how Digimon did Appmons which allowed them to justify a different design philosophy for that spin off series(?). Honestly I learned this from some other person like a decade ago, and never looked that deep into it, but thought it was interesting.
ah yes, we have:
• evil jellyfish
• pokey pokey
• the wall
• 🤡
• visually stronk bug
• competitively stronk bug
• literally just a clump of wires, like that's it
• le om nom nom
• some bamboo rocket thing, i guess?
• ferrothorn part 2: attack edition
Kartana is just Ferrothorn after it accidentally pressed the Origami button on the Invisible Boat Mobile.
Celesteela is based on the story “The tale of the bamboo cutter.” In which a bamboo cutter discovers a princess from the moon in a bamboo shoot and eventually she grows up and goes back to the moon. Which is why it has both bamboo and rocket elements, and also why it has a feminine face. Because it’s a girl who was found in bamboo who uses rockets to return to the moon.
I thought Mega Aggron was THE WALL
(If you don't get it, look up "Can't Outstall the Wall")
Peak Pokémon designs tbh
i love pokey pokey
Stakataka Blissey is the one fusion I hope will never see the light of day
😈
Eternamax eternatus
255 hp, 250 def, 250 spdef
Yeah it is not available to use but it technically exists
And it would be 8x weak to Fighting - fighting types and moves become mandatory on literally any team in the tier it’s in
Infinite fusion showdown client exists
Shuckle blissey tho
Guzzlord may suck, but it can vent that frustration by screaming in the Pokémon Sun and Moon Japanese dub. So yknow it’s got that. Yelling.
ÆÆÆÆÆÆÆÆ!!!
ææææææ!!!
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
God I wish I was a fly on the wall when they gave direction to the voice actor. "Just scream. Really really loud. Like stepping on Lego and being kicked in the nuts at the same time kind of scream."
It's also easily got the coolest of the Ultra Beast encounter areas in the Ultra games, so there's that too!
Pov: me when I stand on a lego
Gen 7: Haha, look at these ridiculous over the top min-max stats, these are so silly aren’t they?
Gen 9: …Ah.
I remember when Ultra Beast were first revealed, people didn’t even believe they were Pokémon. They looked so out there, so against every design principle in Pokémon that we thought they had to be boss fights or something. When they actually had stats and moves people were shocked.
My favourite part about Ultra Beasts is that whatever design philosophy is in place, Ultra Beasts are clearly ignoring it. It's like how you can tell apart 90% of fake pokemon leaks from real ones just by how they're designed except they're actually real
And the in-universe reaction was basically the same for the same reasons.
What made it better was that we already had alien Pokemon but these guys really felt more alien than them (except Deoxys)
They also have designs similar to guzma/lusamine/lillie so when they leaked a lot of people thought they were pokemon themsleves
I fucking love their visual design though, Gamefreak went crazy with it
If there's a diegetic reason, I'm down for insane, bullshit Pokemon designs.
Like big, cartoon blush being functional organs on electric rodents? genius!
I'm just mad that Bruxish didn't have zebra stripes like actual Dazzling camouflage. the rest of its bullshit design looks like actual various stupid fish
I adore bonkers Pokemon design. I fell in love with Raging Bolt the second I saw it. Longboi
btw this is probably the longest these videos are going to get. its getting out of hand LOL
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You're lowkey turning into BKC imo
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U say that like its a bad thing
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This is going in the evidence folder.
Hearing you say you played SuMo in middle school dealt 9999 psychic damage. They came out the year i graduated HS
Grandpa
I was in my 20s lol, you're fine.
The idea of alien Pokemon from other dimensions is just dope. I also love the UB classifications for some reason (I honestly call them by those more than their actual names)
They remind me of SCP’s when I call them by their UB classification names. The fact that you had to contain them in special pokeballs (thumual) makes it even more like SCP.
I believe that one reason the ultra beasts have such crazy stats is because the base stats are all prime numbers. So that leaves less flexible wiggle room for “balancing”
I recently saw it pointed out that Sun and Moon often deal with the idea of invasive species, and Ultra Beasts are the logical endpoint of that theme. Made me appreciate them a lot more.
I'm not that old but hearing you say you were a middle schooler for Sun/moon made me feel a kink in my back
I find it funny how Nihilego is a Rock/Poison type ultra beast that doesn't really look like a Rock type and only sorta like a poison type but not that much, and then gen 9 released glimmora who looks even more like an ultra beast, even less like a rock type, and even more sorta like a poison type but not that much, and glimmora is just better than it
Actually, Glimmora is based on copper sulfate, which is a HIGHLY poisonous mineral that happens to curl like petals!
Well Nihilego is an organic glass creature, which adds to the weirdness of ultra beasts (like Kartana being living paper) and Glimmora is based on crystal structure that looks like flowers made of a toxic chemical.
That's because ultra beasts are intentionally weird and in nihilego's case - it's a glass jellyfish wearing a white hat & a sun dress.
So:
Glass = rock
Jellyfish = poison (like tentacruel before it)
Designed after something weird like a hat & dress combo = ultra beast.
@@jaernihiltheus7817 my point was that the Non-ultrabeast Glimmora felt even more like an ultra beast than nihilego, and it being rock type feels even less fitting than nihilego at first even though both of them make sense
@@jaernihiltheus7817 you're saying it's based off lillie with extra steps
Xurkitree is by far the funniest pokemon in existence. It’s like if you took rampardos software and ran it on Regieleki hardware. He’s probably the most goofy sinister pokemon in existence and he should get access to quiver dance
Between Tail Glow and Signal Beam, Xurkitree is truly an honorary bug type.
My favorite example of how minmaxed Ultra Beast stats are is how Kartana would run 0 attack timid nature in Gen 7 VGC just to get the Speed Beast Boost. The attack drop wouldn’t even matter since it has 181 attack and it could just swords dance back up to compensate
One of my favorite add campaigns ever is the analog horror like series of Pokemon go ads about ultra beasts sightings
Highly reccomend checking them out
I will never be mad about Mosa. She made Salamence and Garchomp shake in fear as a goddamn BUG by threatening with an uninvested Ice Beam. Fuck your dragons, fear the roach.
Right 😂
how the fuck did they make all these mons and then guzzlord's stat spread i'm gonna hurl, how do you make a mon 4x weak to fairy and then make it slow, frail and weak
I think they wanted one that had a ton of HP and Gustl looks spooky. But they should have given it a better typing. Maybe something went ground and water could have given it a better usage.
Never thought frail could describe a mon with 223 HP, but you aren't wrong
@@wonderfulrose477 I think if they really wanted guzzlord to be tanky it needed more defenses
Should've been like
151/167/73/73/67/59
A monstrous physical mighty glacier build that properly matches its design, basically rampardos with actual bulk, but you'll still have to be careful. I don't think it'll be that op in a fairy infested metagames.
@@yungmuney5903 yeah that'd be interesting
Buzzswole is one of the funniest designs ever. The idea of a mosquito that sucked so much blood that it went from a mere insect to “mom said it’s my turn on the xbox” makes me laugh every time I look at it.
Ah yes the toned down Ultra Beasts called Paradox Pokémon *looks at Flutter Mane*.
Ultra Beasts reminds me of Gen1 glitch mons in a way. Both are strange to look at and are "not supposed to be here" in a way, and both usually have some very out-there stats, often including at least 1 ridiculously high stat.
Buzzswole was so OP in Almost Every Ability with Triage since it gave him priority on leech life and drain punch.
Which makes me wish Buzzswole really got Triage as a hidden ability.
What the fuck that’s broken LOL
Doddle can make that dream a reality.
"Pheromosa is Flutter Mane," but far better designed imo. It's still far too strong for OU, but its weaknesses are very exploitable, unlike Flutter Mane. Pheromosa's defensive typing is far worse and it's bulk is absurdly low. Butterfree is bulkier than it. Yes, Butterfree.
"What, why?"
Because their Base Stats are all prime numbers.
Dunno if it's true for Poipole and Naganadel specifically, since they're special, but it's the case for the others if I'm not mistaken.
Naganadel's speed is the only exception, and it still isn't divisible by 5 like every other base stat that actually gets called by the normal function.
I would have NEVER guessed, just looking at it, that Blacephalon shared typing with Chandelure. That shocked the hell out of me!
As of gen 9 you can make an entire fire/ghost team, it's awesome
@@phyllotaxis unfortunately you can't make it only out of only fully evolved pokemon because alolan marowak and blacephalon aren't in SV so you'll have to replace them with litwick and lampent
Fun fact
Some people used kartana a 19 attack IV max speed timid nature to proc speed boost from beast boost in tournaments
Same thing in VGC where Stakataka ran 17 def IV with lonely nature to proc attack boost
Gamefreak kind of learnt their lesson and made sure brute bonnet never gets a speed boost from Protosynthesis
And gave it sucker punch lmao
Guzzlord still has an iconic design. I had minor success using a chesto resto set with Dragon Claw, Poison Jab, rest and Stockpile
>When I was playing these games as a middle schooler
Pardon me as I age to dust
>as a middle schooler
wow I'm old.
I feel that pain.
Ahh yes Guzzlord…
“AAAAAAAHHHHHH!”
Only real ones know.
(for anyone curious, look up guzzlord is just a guy)
Sun and moon anime
Honestly would of been absolutely hilarious if Guzzzzzz didn't even get a mention
0:08 You played USUM when you were in middle school? Man that makes me feel old... I was in the middle of college when they released
I wish they would give Ultra Beasts another chance. Yeah it's obvious that Paradox Pokémon are just "UBs But More Balanced*" so much so that they forced UBs to sit this gen out as to not steal the thunder of the Paradox Pokémon, but UBs are SO much more interesting aesthetically.
More specifically, I love that they were literally made to defy our collective unconscious expectation of what a Pokémon should look like and IMO they knocked it out of the park. I fondly remember before the Gen 7 games came out and all the info we had on the UBs were magazine sized posters of a couple of them with code names to match. Their designs and the way they were presented made them out to be so alien that there was speculation that they weren't Pokémon at all so you couldn't even catch them and were instead just big scripted boss battles like the Poké Star Studios bosses were. It really screwed with us and made our imaginations run wild. They really said "You see this bundle of cables without a face? This is a Pokémon. Deal with it." Based af.
UBs broke the mold, but unfortunately, they also broke the game. I think a lot of that has to do with the admittedly dumb gimmick where all of their stat spreads were prime numbers whose sum was 570. There's only so many configurations of said prime numbers below 255 that can do that and they're all stupidly "spikey". I don't think re-balancing them for a comeback is impossible though. For example, now that GF is officially in the business of Thanos Snapping moves from specific Pokemon's move pools, they could absolutely take away the really stupid moves, like Nasty Plot from Naganadel or Swords Dance from Kartana. Another idea is to nerf Beast Boost to only boost a stat once per appearance in battle, even after multiple knockouts, or make the boost a 30% boost instead of a full stat stage, or even both.
Granted those are just nerfs I know Game Freak would reasonably implement. Were it up to me, Beast Boost would go in the trash and they'd all have their own unique Abilities instead, as it was always difficult for me to suspend my disbelief that alien creatures from drastically different home worlds would all have the same Ability.
Thanks for reading my gushing/rambling.
Love this channels vids a good mix of wolfie’s and FSG’s analysis that is easy to listen to in the morning on the bus to school.
People hate it, but Stakataka is peak design
It's a colony of lil' guys becoming a mobile fortress to defend themselves. That's dope as hell.
@@sayvionwashington1939 Like All Tomorrows?
nagadanel was so entirely insane when it was played in OU that some people ran *z blizzard blissey* in order to 1v1 it
Staka in nat dex is such a cheat code. He’s like BW reun on roids in trick room. Being double res to rocks is basically the same thing.
Trick room. Then both stabs are flinch happy between head and slide, and heat crash is goated. Fine vs heatran since
- minus 14 def can be all invested in spedef after u max out atk.
-rock slide is still good damage, iron head is dandy vs standard Terras. Fighting, water, whatever else would be pretty bad for iron head.
And then balloon terra ghost, the quad weak/ bliss line (just the terra for the pinks) savior.
guzzlord being the worst one is so funny to me because its background lore pretty clearly implies that it was meant to be the most threatening one
i was thinking how neat if would have been if we had UB and the paradoxes but i thought of how much cool theming pokemon has with their creatures all in one series
Poipole and Naganadel are eternally the goats.
You were in Middleschool when UBs first released?
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The exasperation of the "What? Why?!?" is perfect. 0:29
Xurkitree doesn't even need to be good. It's high-tier in my heart due to that walking animation alone.
I love that dracovish is giving trivia
this felt like a fever dream. good video.
I have nothing insightful to add here, so I'm just going to share my favorite bit of trivia. The base stats of all the Ultra Beasts are all prime numbers, except, oddly enough, for Naganadel with a base Speed of 121... which happens to be a perfect square.
Also, if you're wondering, despite being told explicitly that it's *not* an Ultra Beast, Necrozma's base stats are also all prime numbers, except for both Dusk Mane and Dawn Wing Necrozma having a base speed of 77. (Ultra Necrozma goes back to having prime numbers, though.)
none of necrozma's stats are square numbers
@@ttmfndng201 Whoops, meant prime numbers. ^^; Fixing.
The button clickers section gives me reverend vibes, I love it
Some of the most fun I’ve ever had with this game was in low ladder doubles games where a couple opponents would somehow let me get a choice specs modest max spatk blacephalon in drought + tailwind next to charjabug and instantly kill everything on the screen with mind blown
>pleayed gen 7 as a middle schooler
You're probably only a couple of years younger than me but that made me physically feel my flesh withering away
The concept of UBs is actually terrifying lore wise. Pheromosa and Buzzwole are basically another dimension's version of early game bugs (most obvious being Caterpie and Weedle lines), and yet are extremely destructive when transported to a more mundane dimension like mainline pokemon's. Xurkitree has a whole-ass forest of themselves... Crazy.
Them giving Pheromosa physicial ice coverage in gen 8 made it my fav Ultra Beast to use as it had very few checks
xurkitree is my fave. tailglow thunder bolt energy ball and hypnosis with the psyum Z kristal for +1 speed. so much fun to be had in gen7
My favorite Kartana Tech is that one of its best strats is to lower Attack Investment so you can get Beast Boost to activate +1 Speed so you can’t get outsped by anything, and then using Swords Dance to compensate
I miss Celesteela and Xurkitree so much. In this 9 gen Xurkitree could have recovered Tail Glow.
Celesteela is another fun pokemon in design and competitive, I ran mixed variants with it in the ultramoon era with WP to defeat Heatran from an earthquake
Was in college when these games came out Jesus, I am old lmao
i very much like both stakataka and buzzwole, because imo they're very well balanced. they both have typings riddled with weaknesses and each make up for it rather well with their individual traits. and if they have to min max for me to have a viable steel/rock on my all steel team then so be it
"Two are in ubers :3" got me going :3
I love the UBs a REAL lot. My personal favorite being Xurkitree. Fun fact: in SM and USUM, this thing had access to TAIL GLOW, thats right, the move that raises your special attack by a whopping 3 stages in a single move. Granted, Xurkitree's sucky defenses and speed mean its probably not gonna live to make use of that, but if you can somehow get a tail glow off safely, it will freaking nuke!
Stackattacka is my favourite lil beast. I love them little composite guys
Stakataka is awesome. I have fond memories of using an absolutely stupid team in Gen 8 AG that mostly revolved around this guy:
The Wall (Stakataka) @ Shuca Berry
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Brave Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Trick Room
- Gyro Ball
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
If it wasn’t fully set up, I swapped in a flying or ghost type to read ground or fighting attacks, and Dynamax allowed for absurd defensive options, by giving me a way to boost its defensive stats and set up sandstorm without switching out.
The shock value alone won me some games, because people who definitely could have beat me forfeited after losing a couple Pokémon.
The only thing keeping Kartana from being Ubers material is that if you think about clicking a Fire move it dies, and has nowhere near the special bulk of Ferrothorn to try EVing for that. It also helps that Heatran is pretty much only scared of Sacred Sword and neither of its STABs (both puns unintended).
Meanwhile Blacephalon either gets a kill, gets six kills, or dies horribly, and is still talking to its therapist about Sucker Punch
Xurkitree was always my fave. The only one who didn't get min-maxed. Comparing his stats to Nidoking just shows how extremely balanced they made his base stats and then they dumped 173 Special Attack onto him becauses thats just how much they had left.
I love the Ultra Beasts so much!! Their designs are so fun, being based on alien movie tropes + invasive species. And they all look super out there and truly alien when put among other Pokémon, even compared to other aliens like Deoxys and Beheeyem.
I hope one day we get more of them, potentially when revisiting Alola.
One of my favourite ways to run Nihilego is Power Herb Meteor Beam with EVs optimised to boost Speed with beast boost. It can be very effective.
Man why did you have to say you were in middle school during SM? Now I feel old 😭
Jokes aside the UB were an amazing addition to pokemon, a great way to stretch the conventional designs with a tight theme to go with it.
I love how bizarre and unusual looking the Ultra Beasts are, all of them are easily some of my favorite Pokémon from Gen 7.
I feel lile Xurkitree would have been OU in gen 9 or at least a good choice, simply because he can blow up most of the top threats out of the field (great tusk gets annihilated bh energy ball, and a strong thunderbolt 2hko almost anything), and having a special nuke is always good.
Rocky helmet roost Buzzwole was one if my favorite physical walls in gen 8, what I would do to have him back 😢
Gotta love the best play in pokemon: killing your own stakataka with kartana to get a boost + reset fake out pressure. Absolutely genius.
also why does boingus say kartana was legal in gen 9 at 3:04, am i stupid?
OOPS that was supposed to say 7 and 8 sorry about that
Natdex OU has kartana legal
I remember the pain trying to catch a lonely stakataka with 16 def iv and 0 speed iv.
Honestly, the Ultra Space would be an amazing point for a Legends game in Alola.
Also, Stakataka really rules.
Ultramegalopolis was criminally underused.
First Contact was, what, three screens and the Blue Man Group?
@@Bird-wz7nx a legends alola game set in the ultra megalopolis with poipole as a starter would be awesome
Minor thing about the ultra beasts you didn't mention because it has nothing to do with their battles is the encounter areas for them in the ultra games.
Nihilego gets the area from the base s/m games, which is cool
and most of them get areas that are just wacky and insane, like buzzwhole, xurkitree, pheromosa, celesteela
but then there's GUZZLORD. Guzzlord's area is so cool, my god. When you first get there, a single guy is present - with a suit that resembles Guzzlord. He thinks he recognizes you, but realizes you are a different person from the one he knows (from a different... world, perhaps?). Then you leave the pipe and its literally a completely destroyed and eviscerated Hau'oli city, down to the electronic monitors still trying to chirp out their advertisements and the music being the same as Hau'oli city, but backwards. Considering you live in the outskirts of said city, its no surprise there is a version of you from this world.
I just think it was such a bold move to just... display the power of these beasts directly by directly SHOWING the player the devastation they can cause (and we all know how much the series in this modern age actually hates showing stuff, since thats more effort for cutscenes and all). It's similar to what the paradox pokemon were supposed to cause if they escaped in S/V, but you actually get to see the side effects.
"When I was playing the game as a middle schooler-"
...and now I feel old.
Had to put down my phone and walk away for a minute when I heard "played the games in middle school" lmaooo
Stakataka is an awesome Pokémon it's such a fun design and it's a giant brick cube made of sentient bricks which can flip out as eyes top 10 Pokémon of all time I think
You don't know how many elo ive lost trying to make mind blown blacephalon work
Imagine a world with Dragon Cheer supporting Naganadel.
Yknow I thought this was about the implications of UBs in the Pokémon world like world building wise and the effects they’d have on humans and Pokemon alike
But this is freaky too lol
“200 AND FUCKINGGG ELEVENN DEFENSE!?!? WHAT WHY!?!” 🤣
I want a Pokemon Legends where the games is happening in Ultra Space, where your starter is an ultra beast, where you explore all the weird environments, and that you fight and catch only ultra beasts.
id love a video on how fucking stupid the Calyrex Riders are (primarily in the current VGC format) I promise I'm not just mad about my showdown elo
When you played them in middle school? Bruh these games came out when I was halfway through college lmao. Wild
"When i was playing the game as a middle schooler" that hurt me, i was in college
Kartana’s legal in general 9? Damn i gotta start using her
Definitely my favorite subclass of Pokémon, as much as I love the paradox mons, they just can’t beat the beasts.
And hey, this may be a completely out there theory that’s bordering on tinfoil hat kinda shenanigans, but the fact that legends arceus gave a legend a new member one gen up has got me thinking we may finally see more of these weirdos soon.
If you're wondering why their base stats are so wacky it's because they're all prime numbers
Every stat is essentially a prime number which leads to the min maxing due to how they all need to hit a 570 stat total but only with prime numbers
Past paradox pokemon have there base stats as all odd numbers.
Future paradox pokemon are all even numbers
The exceptions are Koridon and Miraidon obviously
"Actually reasonable Physical Bulk" this mf has the same Defense stat as Great Tusk and known bigot Ferrothorn, even with 59 HP, this thing can take a lot of hits, especially since it resists half the fucking game. Also, Kartana's attack was REALLY understated, now that Megas are gone it's the highest in the game, and even when they were still around it was still No3
Celesteela is basically what happens when Skarmory, Ferrothorn, and Heatran have a baby and through a freakish genetic accident it inherited all their best traits EXCEPT the ability to set hazards.
0:35 Dealing.
While they are a little wild, their distribution is a step in the right direction for strong version-exclusives.
Make a PowerPoint about miraidon or koraidon next please
Oh hey neat, a Bloodhound SSC reference.
While we’re on gen 7 how about a powerpoint on the og “le funny water move ohko pokemon” araquanid, aka fish mk. 1. He may pale in comparison to his bigger, older, and much funnier looking sequel (luv u boingus), but in his day he was still a menace
I love Stakataka, I don’t know why, but I do.
I love kartana. One of my top 10 fav mons.
Oh my god I love Buzzwole's design.
I cant decide if we were robbed or spared from seeing how these guys would be in the gen 9 meta
WHAT DO YOU MEAN PHEROMOSA HAS 137 SPA. ATK.??!!
Also Poipole mentioned :o my baby from the Sun and Moon anime