Is Carlin Isles or Angelo Davids Rugby's Fastest Player?
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- čas přidán 9. 02. 2023
- South Africa 7s Angelo Davids goes head to head with United States 7s speedster Carlin Isles, the latter widely regarded as the world's fastest player but who will prove to be the true speedster in this rugby's fastest player challenge?
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Who do you think in world rugby could beat these speedsters in a race? Let us know below!
Not your mom lol
Kurt Lee Arendse
Cheslin Kolbe
Kurt lee arendse
Leolin Zass, Edwill van der Merwe, Suleiman Hartzenberg, Cheslin Kolbe, Kurt-leigh Arendse, Madosh Tambwe, Perry Baker, Will Jordan, Teddy Thomas, Sevu Reece, Marika Koroibete, and Ange Capuozzo, Louis Rees-Zammit and Maybe the current form of Rieko Ioane. Damian McKenzie over 10m & 40m.
So glad to see Isles getting the spotlight. He definitely deserves it from all the hard work he's put into the Eagles side.
USA couldn’t even beat Uruguay to qualify for the World Cup USA are useless 😂😂
@taraishot100 I agree with that. But there are some players that I wished weren't grouped up with the rest of them.
they are timing them differently. Looks like the SA one is a laser start and he's already begun his stride when the timer triggers and the 2nd is a hand timer start
and also 2 different ground conditions
@@nachodropkick7022 americn cry babies
Temp, air and ground conditions all different.
What a pointless exercise!
Unless the race each other, this is pointless
Unless the race each other, this is pointless
Last challenge they should’ve just sprinted to the end and taken the 5 second penalty
That is a thought I had too
You have to pass it, that’s the whole point 🤦
On paper it's definitely Isles, he ran his best 100m at 10s flat, Angelo at his best ran his 100m at 10.5s, but this was in high school, he never tried running professionally as an adult. Isles tried going pro as a sprinter.
But also note that Isles is much older now from the time he ran his best 100m time, so he most likely has slowed down now
Isles ran 10.3 during the off-season 2 years ago and I've seen him burn Davids a few times on a pitch. Plus 4.71 on a muddy field translates to about 4.5 high to 4.6 on a dry one.. Still 4.68 on grass by Davids is still blazing. Anything under 4.8 is really fast
@@Nyasalands_Finest davids pitch isnt dry. carlin should stop making excuses or pick a better pitch next time
@@RabbitholeIsrael It's not even close in a sprint.😂. Carlin takes part in track meets during the off-season and is usually in the top 5 against professionals. I think you're the only one seeing a wet field on a sunny day in Capetown 😂
@@Nyasalands_Finest top 5 losers more like it. Someone who blames the pitch when he is not good enough, that is typical american for you.
Yeah Carlin started playing sevens for USA back in 2013, he must have slowed down a little since then
The scary thing is Angelo David’s isn’t even the fastest South African rugby player. I’m proud of Angelo David’s WELLDONE👏👏👏
Whos faster?
@@bautistasoto319 Rosko Specman is one of them.
@@bautistasoto319 specman, zas, kolbe, arendse, willemse, senatla... I'm just guessing but I think they all clear davids unless I'm just really underestimating him
@@bautistasoto319 Kolbe, Arendse, Senatla, Specman, bro we have some many more speedsters even faster than Angelo lmao South Africa just goated
@@ZandreM All of them would be smoked by isles on a fair ground
Think in same conditions Isles would’ve been faster in the sprints, but Davids definitely the more rounded player.
isles was hand timed starting the second he moved where angelo was laser start that starts after he's already in stride
Wrong lmao stop making excuses Isles lost
Hand timing was for the coach. He still went through the laser timers. He ran on a muddy pitch so I wouldn't call it fair. He would be about 0.1 sec faster on a dry pitch in sunny weather. So he's capable of low 4.6 or high 4.5s..
Fascinating and very entertaining to see "Skills in Action"
Big Thumbs Up and 5 Stars
👍⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Would have loved to see Jason Robinson vs Shane Williams run these tests circa 2003
Shane is rumored to have done 4.68, but standing next to the gate, not this .75-1m run up rubbish.
This is a total waste of time. Unless the timing protocols and surface are identical, it's not worth doing...
Timing from first movement v starting a metre behind the line and the timer being activated when you run through it will make a colossal difference.
Aphelele Fassi - likely the fastest player in the world in a straight sprint - ran down Senatla so easily
Nah dwf not
He didn't run down Senatla. Senatla gassed him so bad last year.🤣🤣. Volmink, Mapimpi, and Grant Williams in that order at the Sharks over 40m and they're all in the 4.5s..
Very fast indeed
I remember in high school on the 40m dash I made a time of 4.69s...never thought I'd come so close to Angelo David's score😯😯
4.69 is moving. I ran 4.7-4.8 in uni but i was much faster in High school but never got measured.
@@Nyasalands_Finest 4.7 is still a solid time bro...I guess I was blessed with some good acceleration, but let it come to the 100m then Im not much 😖😂😂😂💔
@@motorsportfun1091 surprisingly i was solid over 100m and 200m. 10.6 over 100m, 20.9 over 200m and 46.7 over 400m
In 2023, Carlin Isles is 9.5 years older at 33 years old, while Angelo Davids is 24 years old. Like they said about former NFL player Darrell Green "he lost a step, but he had one to give".
Head to head Isles faster. But mind you Angelo is currently still active and Isles is not because of injuries.
Perry Baker Rees Zamit and Rieko Ioane should have a go at this
Does Davids plays for South Africa…he looks a very fast player.
World Rugby needs to set up actual head to heads in person, like in NFL at the Pro Bowl.
Wingers vs winger drills
Fly half vs fly half drills
Passing drills for scrum halfs
Prop and scrummaging drills etc.
Rugby should take all the technology and drills from the NFL
No way!!! NFL is a game for nancies. Rugby is a mans game and should remain thus.
Stormers
Angeloooo davies💪🔥🔥🇿🇦
serious gasssssssssss!!!!!
I'd like to see Marcos Moneta sprint versus Isles and Davis. You should have a longer race, the shorter the sprint the more the advantage for shorter players. Usain bolt would've lost the 10 and 40 mts race here.
I've read about a young SA sprinter who wants to return to rugby..has a fastest sprint time of a tad over 10s and when he breaks the 10s barrier will maybe go to NZ rugby who are Ater his signature.
Who's that? We need speed
I would like to have seen this 10 years ago-Isles may be way past his prime now
Come on, he is running on a muddy field! He's down 0.13 over 10m but only 0.02 over 40m and he had bad conditions. He would run 0.12 faster in dry conditions
Possibly Danie Gerber was the quickest rugby player Ever? Don't think he has a 100m time, but he was lightning fast.
@@michaelpeacock1481Danie wasn't even the fastest on his team. That title would go to Jaco Reinach (Cobus Reinach's dad) 10.2sec 100m and 45sec 400m. He held the SA 400m record for a long time
@@Nyasalands_Finestisles runs a 10.13 100
Would love to see Kurt lee arendse on this challenge
And Kolbe
La prochaine fois c'est cool de courir sur le même gazon pour être équitable 🙂
Angelo did very well, but the conditions were different and I know who i want on my outside when there is space...
And I am South African. We all know Carlin is faster. End. Of. Bloody good skill by Angelo though.
Lekker Angelo!
Keriek-stieks-felma
Cheslin kolbe or seobelo senatla 🔥
Kolbe is not that fast at all. Grant Williams, Mapimpi, Nkosi, Arendse, Moodie according to the Springboks official reports are faster. Williams is first though.
Carlin kept slowing down before passing the finish line
I thought that was Kawhi Leonard in thumbnail 💀
I thought Perry would be in this convo
Angelo Davids is rapid but it’s a bit windy versus soaking wet pitch that can’t be fair. Can literally see mud coming off isles boots
hmm hard to compare with the ground conditions so much worse for Carlin? But other than that you can see Carlin skillset with the rugby ball not the same either, he takes 2-3 steps towards the target rather than running forwards as well.
Really though Carlin would nail the first 2, but it's just expected that angi would beat him in the passing drill. The US have a long way to go with the basics
Isles was on a worse advantae
Does Angelo Davids have a you tube creator from 2014 make a drop that dirty love vid about speed. Naht he don’t 😂 but Carlin Isles does 💪🏽🥇
Get Beauden Barrett on a bronco challenge
They needed to do a 100m
Isles winning
Wet pitch vs dry pitch
Running on muddy ground is way harder. You can't control the weather but not really a valid test.
then he should pick better place to do test. not davids fault he is faster than the so called fastest rugby player.
@@RabbitholeIsrael but he isnt they cant control the weather and have better things to do we all know isles smokes everyone.
can't say you won't use the conditions as a excuse and then use them when you lose. Davids won fair and square
quite right.
and having a huge rolling start isn't a factor either, obviously...
It wasn't fair dummy
Ones on a hard sunny field isles looks to be in a mud bath they should make them do it indoor on astro or something
Really shouldve had them both on similar pitch types. Muddy ground alot harder to sprint on
I disagree. The point of this video is getting as much social media footprint as reasonably possible. Having a controversial point increases the likelihood of people commenting and thus improving the algorithm of the video. It would be smart to keep making the playing field uneven so that engagement with comments/likes is higher.
Excuses he lost bc Americans cant play rugby
@@nathanbreytenbach3956how does running have to do with rugby?
What “conditions” is Carlin talking about ?
Muddy grass and Angelo has wind advantage
Carlin Isles has a 10.15. But Tree Williams from Australia ran a 10.10 100m electronic and played sevens for Audtralia. So I think based on 100m times Tree Williams should be considered to be the fastest rugby player in history. But that is only based on the stats I know. Maybe there is faster stats out there?
Trea has put on muscle weight since his times. He wouldn't get close to that time.
Angelo ran a 10.20s 100m at MTBS Interschools athletics in his matric year and beat the events previous record. I was there, in the same school as Angelo but 5 grades below him. Specifically remember this as it's the fastest I've ever seen anybody move
That's a great time. I haven't seen the time recorded anywhere on rankings lists. Hard to believe I have missed it, but have to take your word for it. Surely Angelo has real speed then.😀👍
@@michaelpeacock1481 This was 2017 at MTBS atheltics, a 4 school Interschools between DF Malan, Tygerberg, Belville and Stellenberg. I tried finding a recording or report of it now, but in the 5ish min I spent googling I didn't find anything. Keep in mind this was an entirely school-run event, so I'd guess they were using stop watches and not anything as precise as lasers so there is likely some human error in there (which in the case of a sprint time makes the biggest difference), but I remember the 10.20s on the LED board as if it was yesterday, as well as the incredible speed with which he accelerated off the starting line, as at that point I'd only seen him play 15 man rugby for the first team a few times. He was still incredibly impressive then, but the 100m sprint really blew my mind.
Ek was bsie daar.
this wasn't a fair and equal test, the conditions need to be identical
Ground seems a little softer for Carlin in fairness
"Its all good"
Fastest thing in Rugby, hands down, is World Rugbys ability to dodge responsibility for their horseshit referees!
This was kind of a silly contest. Carlin Isles has not been training with USA 7s for a while and who knows if his training has been as grueling and consistent as before while Angelo Davids has been training non stop with the SA 7s and Stormers. I knew he was gonna smoke Isles. Why Isles decided to step away from 7s I have no idea.
homie looks like kawhi leonard.
Carlin is still the man. New blood is gonna be quicker but you gotta respect the electric eagle.
Wheres Jordan Conroy?
Isn't Carlin basically retired haha this ain't fair
Is Isles still playing rugby?
He has massive legs for a winger
do it with Rieko Ioane
They have to be in the same condition. Also it seems like Carlin is not at his peak and Angelo is much closer to his peak. I'd rather compare apples and oranges than these two greats.
I’ll make the excuse … conditions
Nobody in rugby 7s is beating isles on a fair ground
What about cheslin Kolbe
Who are saw that guy like Luis Hamilton? 🤣
Not a very accurate comparison. Different ground conditions and equipment being used here.
Has nobody seen Grant Williams?
Jordan Conroy
Does isles still play?
Guys I’m pretty sure it’s Finn Russell
Davids is already running when he goes past the first laser gate whereas Isles was just being hand timed from the starting blocks. No way he's 0.3s slower over 10m - 0.3 is a big gap over 100m never mind 10m!
Yeah his video was stupid isles is out of his prime, running on a muddy grass and his timing system is different David's time was a split which makes a huge difference
Love the concept but why do they need to have those pretentious poses?
Rieko ioane
Those timings are awful. According to this Davids would be comfortably faster than all the runners in the 2017 100m final over 10m. Despite them having blocks, spikes and a track. It would also have him only 0.03 behind Bolts world record after 40m
Whats your point? 🙄 Satisfied to have got that all out?
@@playmoreguitar5393 the point is this test ain't accurate and it could be rigged
Carlin Isles is 33 years old.
Grant Williams would have beat both 😅
Shouldve just had a normal hundred meter sprint on an actual track. Simple.
Timing differences from different start point. Pointless. The SA lad will always win.
Idk man don’t ike the way isles is complaining but if u give that man space ur not catching him
STOOOOOOOORMERS
Perry Baker, Seabelo Senatla, Jordan Conroy entered the chat.
Trae Williams
Perry Baker and Carlin Isles are just sprinters as seen in the last challenge.
Isles faster than all of them
Different conditions, not worth the comparison
I mean not doing the tests at different times in different locations isnt really that great an experiment
Fr
Perry baker would dust both of them
I ran something silly like 1.2-1.4 for the 10m when I was a high schooler. It was faster than Usain bolts opening 10m split which I thought was funny considering I was just running barefoot on grass in probably 35 degree heat.
But it was all hand timed so i'm going to add on 250 ms and say I was probably more like 1.45 - 1.65 seconds. I reckon I would have kept up with these two.
Why god gave me incredible athletic genes but zero work-ethic and determination I'll never know 💅
You didn't run tht bruh
We all knows isles is the faster person over 100 😅
Sumn ain’t right 😂
Need to be on the same field or what’s the point lmao
Haha, my 40m was 4,72
The last challenge was stupid.. Carlin Isles usually is the last player to get the ball..
Well, they are both rugby players, 7s specifically, everyone needs to know how to pass..
@@tobiasrieper7994 Basically, I agree.. but especially in 7s, you have specialized players able (and needed) to perform just one job.. Carlin Isles is one of them, he's a pure sprinter-finisher..
@@SapientiaHaereticae Carlin Isles and Perry Baker are just Sprinters and can never compete angainst South Africans for all round ball skills
Angelo David's is also a winger
Let the excuses flow..
This was stupid 🤦🏽♂️ conditions of the field definitely had an impact on results
Well they can't control the weather. Carlin runs a 40m in 4.6 seconds most times.
@@Nyasalands_Finestcarlin has ran a 4.19 40 yard which is like a 4.4 40m
@@humanboy395 His pb over 40m is 4.58sec. He mentioned it.
@@Nyasalands_Finest in the 40 yard dash it is 4.19 which is faster than anytime in the nfl
@@Nyasalands_Finest he ran 4.58 out of prime in prime he would run 4.49
In real rugby Carlen Isles is better speedster definitely
It's not as muddy as you all making out
It was rainy before the race look at how wet it is
The last challenge is stupid we want to see the fastest over 40 60 100m
YOU SHOULD HAVE GIVEN HIM A CHALLENGE NO AMERICAN WILL EVER BEAT A SOUTH AFRICAN IN RUGBY.
Isles is still faster in his prime
Lol. Isles is faster than Davids. Ask anyone who has played on the circuit if you know any
Pretty pointless having one on a soft pitch
Trae Williams is the fastest rugby player
Angelo gets a step before the laser takes the time. Kinda false
A Spanish soccer player Hector Bellerin ran 40m in 4.41 seconds that means soccer players are faster than rugby players.
You name one soccer player then decide all soccer players are faster than all rugby players? What an idiot!
@@barefootbasics3183 The thing is that Hector Bellerin isn't even the fastest soccer player. There are like couple of players faster than him. That's why I said soccer players are faster than rugby players.
And his teammate Theo Walcott happened to run just 1/100th of a second slower during the same testing.
Are two football players from the same club metres faster than a guy who's run 10.13 for 100 metres, or was Arsenal's testing protocol radically different.
Gee, let me think....
@@itsinthetreesitscoming7431 Carlin Isles isn't a sprinter anymore. He can't run that fast now. And what do you think of the other guy who beats Isles but never trained for tracks?
@@thenorseprodigy7466 for 'track'.
What - this guy?
I'm afraid you are just outing yourself as someone who argues about stuff they know nothing about. I thought it would be fairly obvious that these tests are invalid. Putting aside the difference between running on hard ground v soft ground (a profound difference in itself), the SA player starts at least a metre behind a timing gate which is only triggered when he runs through it - already in significant motion. Isles is timed from first movement. That's several tenths of a second right there. The fact I have to point this out to you tells me a lot.
davids is agreat player but he aint even our fastest
Americans making excuses . Angelo ate him alive
Different running surfaces carlin had to run on mud which would make him lose more emergy when running and the SA dude ran on a smooth area also the timing systems don't make sense cus according to this the SA dude can break bolt wr without spikes or nothing
Both made excuses ?
Yeah but isles was in a worse situation
they shouldnt have even done this everybody knows an American will never beat a south african or any country in the world cup in rugby
Lmao isles is faster
He's not even the fastest in SA rugby. How can Isle be the fastest in rugby 🤣💪
It wasn't a race the SA dude was giving multiple advantages and his times don't match up. So this is false they have different racing condition and everything put them in an actual race and carlin winning