Goodbye OLED - 5000 Zone 5000 nit TCL X955 Mini LED Display
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Goodbye OLED - 5000 Zone 5000 nit TCL X955 Mini LED Display
TCL may have just made OLED obsolete with their new X955 Mini LED TV. Not only does it have 5184 local dimming zones and up to 5000 nits of peak brightness, but it also supports up to a 144Hz refresh rate at a 4K resolution with low input lag. If the finish is good this X955 display could actually look better than OLED and be available in larger sizes.
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I love the specs but I’m just not jazzed with VA viewing angle which just gets weirder the larger you go. Hope it is an IPS. With those 5180 zones, black levels wouldn’t be an issue.
Cool now put it in a 32 inch monitor.
Exactly. It’s almost a joke now
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I’d say add it to 40-45 inch monitor.
@@KiDChAoS2kAnything above 32 inches is not a monitor.
You may experience a short-term shock when you see the electricity bill for the first month after purchasing this TV.
5000 Nit :)
Do you necessarily want to be staring at an actual Sun? Probably not, so the actual increase in power consumption would not be linear. The short-term shock, perhaps, would be that the electricity bill would be smaller than you expected.
its not 5000 nit 100% of the time lol
More local dimming zones, or you know, like OLED, a dimming zone per pixel. Looking forward for the future of TVs!
OLED will still always have way better response time as well
Dude, I own a neo G9. I cannot even comprehend how good this TV must look. Like, 2000 nits peak brightness is already insane to me. But FIVE THOUSAND. That must be damn near true to life luminance and contrast ratio with all those dimming zones. Im a firm believer that high end HDR is one of the biggest and most impactful upgrades you could make. Sitting in a dark room with a well calibrated quality HDR display is damn near surreal. Having your eyes literally adjusting because a sunrise in video game is just that bright is insane.
Impactful for be a nuclear war against your eyes😂
There is 10,000 nits brightness TV produced as well. ;D
Nah, even a flower's brightness in nits is 5000. lmao.@@DARKENnekradPL
and keep in mind, the tcl display is HUGE, so the brightness punch would be even bigger AND there's gonna be better contrast so it'll have more impact than Thanos's snap
I own Neo G9 too, yeah it is very good Pc monitor for work and gaming, not a TV anyway.
It would be amazing if this tv comes to the USA 😊. I must say TCL has really had some tricks up their sleeve. They are stepping up their game bigtime. I really like TCL I currently have 4 of them presently. I'm still into my R635 from 2020. It is their first miniled tv. 😊
Look, I recently bought this Toshiba Android TV 43 inch 4K Ulta HDR TV, I have 3 HDMI inputs, how can I tell if it has 2.1?
That tv looks insane
the processing and the FALD algoritm really needs to be good in order to coherently handle all those zones.
5k local dimming zone that's crazy. Now we can say goodbye to OLEDs which have only like 8.3 million zones.
5000 Nit!! you will need your retina re-attached. 1000 is too bright for me when I game on an evening.
Will there be any display with specs 27 inch 4k 144hz oled
does it need active cooling? I would imagine 5000 nits would get pretty warm
It may be that this is the best compromise for displays until microLed comes out.
No risk of burn in, and the sheer volume of dimming zones is going to reduce the blooming to the point where it won't be noticeable.
I guess the only issue is that OLED has a faster response time.
Even 5000 diming zones won't stand up to close inspection as 1 dimming zone controls around 1000 pixels at a 4k resolution. Unless you are watching content mastered to 4000+ nits regularly OLED image is going to me more consistent in the vast majority of circumstances. Not to mention processing delay that happens when controlling the backlight dimming algorithm.
@@MA-jz4ycThe only real long term solution is if Micro-LED comes out, becoming practical and affordable.
Until then, this is the best medium term solution, unless OLED technology improves further and becomes brighter / completely burn in resistant.
is the 115" going to be in the us?
My favorite part for sure was we are getting a little too excited so now I need to go to the restroom
Looks awesome!!! Problem is there are only 85" and 98" options.
I'm still rockn my 2015 LG 4k tv. xD. Since then so many better tvs have come out and I'm still in the waiting game to upgrade. I just dont know what I want and every time I think i'm ready to pull the trigger something like this happens.
Doing some quick math on the listed millimeter dimensions of the 85" unit (incl. bezel, so this will improve slightly):
19.62 LEDs per square inch. That's 1 LED per 177x177, at 3840x2160 over the same area.
So? What does it matter?
@@YavNe less ghosting/ringing light bleed
Innocn 32m2c monitor already burning my eyes in some hdr bright scenes....and i cant tune down the brightness when playing hdr videos
outside?
Good job TCL 👍👏
The other thing I love about tcl is them just calling it QDminiled, instead of neoqled or qned and making me confused about which display technology its referring to.
The 5000 nit display will be a more modest 2000 nit display on the more commonly purchased, 65 inch screen, according to TCL!
2000 is still crazy. Because I bet that’s like 1000 nit sustained.
Got a LG G2 and that was already bright enough. 5K nits is insane. How will the cool the panel?
Boatloads ofVents and massive heatsinks
So this tv actually has the built-in upfiring Dolby Atmos speakers that the Hisense U8K was initially supposed to have but actually doesn't? 😮
My eye doctor approves this message!!!
The backlight dimming resolution is only 96 x 54 and already looks impressive. Imagine when they can shrink those LED's down to have a 1280 x 720 backlight resolution, I don't think we'll have any need for direct view MicroLED at that point, which would be comparatively super expensive to get those LED's small enough to achieve a 4K or 8K resolution, and the difference would be negligible.
meh, it's about algorithm anyways, imagine what Sony would've done with these many zones, they use 96 zones only and make good images so these many zones would look stunning. Also, I think targetting 4K and 8K is better as they're going for the end product from the get go, im not saying 1280 x 720 is bad, but I think targetting 4K or 8K first would allow 1280 x 720 to be cheaper. I'd say we'd be fine with let's say around 15k dimming zones on a 55 inch TV and an algorithm like Sony's. That's end game LED for now. Micro LED is just a pipe dream for normal people with normal space in their rooms
@@jubayerwasidraiyan5874 it's been about algorithm only because they had to work magic with so few zones. They won't need nearly as much algorithm magic when they have a high resolution dimming grid.
... and will it last for 8 years ??? (my average period of having a TV)
Now bring this to 28-32" 4K monitors :)
It doesn't have to be 5000 zones because with a 50% smaller size 2500 would be enough.
How is 5000 dimming zones not enough to compete with OLED?
Hahah The Display Guy is awesome :)
I tested a couple of mini LED monitors, unless this one is significantly better which I doubt, it is at heart old, LCD tech fancied up with a FALD which don't get close to the precision of light emitting pixels, I game in a dark room, even a 1000 nits can be excessive bu for a brightly lit room 5000 maybe ok. It still wont have solid black levels which rob LCD panels of contrast (VA's less than IPS) but I'm very happy with my various OLED & QD OLED displays and while some people may find Mini LED acceptable, it doesn't meet my standards, a thousand + local dimming zones is not even close to the almost 5 million light emitting or not pixels of my particular QD OLED gaming monitor, which also has response times that LCD can never hope to match
Please no Music background. It's a noise. Your natural voice is way better. 👍🏼
I'm not buying a TV any time soon, however with all these dimming zones on tv's now and micro LED.. it's the best of both worlds. I had a feeling that OLED, as awesome as it is.. wont be what I would want. I've followed OLED since it's dawn at SONY with their tiny 10" or 12"?? that was around $10,000. I love the huge sizes now! Projector? while nice...I'm seriously not wanting that either these days. A 98" TV would be a monster size! They're also getting to be a realistic price!
Exactly. I'm in the market for a new TV in the next 2 years(current have 77 LG GX). I want a nice jump in tech as I'm not one of these every year purchasers.
Ever heard of microled projectors?
5000 nits you'll need sunscreen UV protection
I love my LG UltraGear mini led 1440p 165hz monitor.
damn. I just need to know the price tho...
Can you do a video on the best 1440p/4k Freesync Premium/Premium Pro monitors? I have an AMD card so G-Sync is a useless selling point
Unless we get 32" mini led flat pannel then...
Make it 8K if its that big. Thats like a 43-49 inch 1080p panel
no led led-lcd will ever surpass the contrast of oled, its physically impossible.
Oled contrast is infinite, therefore impossible to surpass, but the objective of mini LED isn’t to surpass OLED but match it.
@@benjaminck6768 good luck. micro led is best bet.
And it still won’t match it. Even if you do manage to match it, at best it’ll only look about as good as a G3. It ain’t going to touch anyone’s QD-OLED or ANY advancement on OLED down the line in color, input latency or especially motion. Motion is literally the second biggest advantage to OLED outside of contrast and the technology alone no matter how many dimming zones, is NOT going to keep a LCD from being a LCD on that front. Unless they pull some unknown sorcery.
@@Darknight0681 true OLED quality is superior, but the value of oled is subjective to the user, in comparison to mini led. I have a 77 oled for tv but for a gaming monitor with lots of static elements, mini led comes close enough to enjoy but no long term risk.
It’s impossible on paper but to your eyes mini led is already there. If you bombard your eyes with enough brightness, even something that’s bright enough in a vacuum will appear completely black. This will legitimately look better than all the oleds on the market simply because of the brightness lol
Still getting an OLED
Blooming, espeacially subtitles in dark scenes? Viewing angels? :)
TCL ain’t known for good viewing angles. Even with some sort of wide angle viewing layer it’s still going to be an issue unless they go ADS. Which will bring its own problems.
tcl also launched a 115 inch tv with 20k dimming zones in china for $10k.
Sweet. Sony X95L is like what ? 500 Zones... yet Image quality is far superior, Chinese processor chips can't compete with Japanese. Zones don't improve image quality 💀
chinese chips are the same like SONYs, since everybody is using the same mediatek...., the difference isn't in hardware, it's in software processing which SONY does have superior@@TheAntifluencer
@@TheAntifluencerinteresting how think Sony looks better than this before it’s release 🤡
@@himanshumagar I only need to look at the brand to know its gonna suck, TCL is a chinese budget brand, MiniLED looks washed out. You can't afford Sony that's why you look at chinese brands.
5000 nits isn’t the whole tv if you know how they work it’s only a 10% window and peak brightness when necessary depending what’s on the screen like hdr content that needs it for dynamic range of a scene on screen. Sdr content won’t be 5000 nits brightness lol hdr usually gets that range in highlights not the whole image
Lg g3 final led having close to 1500.. now this is coming out lol
Yes? so now let them stuff these parameters into 55 inches, because the 85 and 98 are not a coincidence, but a condition for this brightness and contrast.
Yes bro 5000 nits, what are we trying to look at, the sun?
I have a screen with 600 nits and i get blinded if i have a white screen lol
Oled is not Oled anymore either, we're now in the era of QD-Oled that get brighter and brighter every year, and which colors are superior to both regular Oled and MiniLED.
So no matter how bright your MiniLED, it won't look as good as Sony A95L and Samsung S95C QD-Oleds.
Won't even look as good as the S95B, A95K, or S90C...😂
@@bigcdub I just love how beginners buy worse looking chinese TV's based on hyped up higher numbers, while advanced people know which brands to go for to get real good image quality and longevity. Lets face it, those TCL TV's are gonna break down after 2 years, their chips are made to fail.
And the bloom effect is disgusting (high settings of local dimming) on current mini led, for example my neo g7, neo g8
When calibrated the Hisense U8K mini-led looks close to an S95B OLED. It just needs a 10bit panel to get even closer, and deeper blacks like TCL did with their QM8.
@@asole100 You can actually just buy a 55” Open Box S95C from BB for a little more…
I love my 1440p oled monitor, brightness is not an issue for me
Guessing you have the lg lol
Generally speaking I think TV reviewers pump nits for views (this might not be the case for you Display Guy).
The TV’s announced, “it’s 2000, 3000 nits, Double the Brightness etc”… Get excited… 🎉 Click on this video series so we talk about it.
TV comes out, nobody reviews the modes that can actually hit those brightness levels because for THEIR taste they want the “Creators Intent” 🤷🏾♂️. They in turn call those modes trash and unusable and Double Down on waiting the “Creators Intent” mode which to me personally is like a lightly seasoned expensive meal (the finest ingredients with little to no seasoning). And be like “You shouldn’t add any seasoning to it either, you should watch it this way like us” 🤷🏾♂️.
Sorry for the rant… The hype trains happening again lol.
Make it true bezeless like fine pitch led screen....it will much better
I am ok with close to OLED as I can afford a 98", OLED in 98" is 2x to 3x the costs. Also OLEDs are not perfect either but nobody talks about it but will shut down LEDs due to minimal blooming. ( I own all tv techs).
Exciting specs but I'm just not interested in such a large TV.
Let's say it depends where you would watch that TV, 2000 nits full screen would only be fine if watched outside in daylight but as soon as you watch 2000 nits from a dark room the level of contrast would just make your retina confused and burn it.
184 zones is not crazy for mini-led at all.
Gaming TCL or OLED?
For desktop, I would choose mini led for now to avoid possible burn-in.
OLED. At one point in time I’d have said the same thing, but once you see it you can’t unsee the picture quality. And the motion clarity is a whole other level. ESPECIALLY at 120hz and above.
@@Darknight0681 I am sure we are getting there, and with careful or moderate use, you can probably do it now. I remember Linus getting signs of burn-in after just months on a TV using 80% brightness. showing mostly his desktop.
5000 Nits? That's a Sun Simulator. 😂 Seriously though it would be cool for HDR.
it doubles as a tanning bed and a toaster
5000 nits of eye burning brightness. Put your sun shades on
5000 diming zones vs 8.5 million self illuminated pixels.
5000 nits... planning on watching on the sun? Oled with 1500 nits should be fine to cut most glare.
oled has up to 26 million dimming zones in 8k... 5000 doesnt seem like very much.
MY ALIENWARE OLED burns my retinas after 1 hour at 900 nits and I almost use it at 50% brightness I cant imagine this at 5k in a dark room has to suck balls
For a relatively dark place, I would choose an OLED variant for sure. I am getting my first OLED TV today, so pretty excited to finally get a large screen of this tech, after reading about it for over a decade. For an OLED monitor, I guess it is wise to have it at 50% since it reduces the chance of burn-in.
I highly doubt that can even remotely match OLED for its only blacks no matter how many zones it has
MiniLED’s disadvantage has always been blooming and pixel response time, this is no different, just a little better in contrast and blooming, and being even brighter. It will be superior for watching movies, but it won’t be for gaming due to its poor pixel response time.
i had no clue this was the drawback. damn, and i thought miniLED was end game gaming panel technology.
@@christiancepeda5457It would honestly be more than enough for consoles, even better than oled since lower refresh rates look awful on them. Even on a pc I wouldn’t imagine you would play twitch shooters like cs or valorant on this thing so this will probably offer the best eye candy hdr experience in non competitive titles where responsiveness isn’t the end of the world. Still mini led isn’t the end game panel tech, it’s synthetic oled/ micro led.
oled will always be better then miniled. Micro led will be the next tech
@@craighopkins4496yep
@@himanshumagarmy lg oled looks great with Xbox SX at 120 fps. Not sure what you mean
One flip from dark to the sun and you are blind😂
Time to burn your eyes out
Funny the people watching this probably with an oled or lcd tv and saying how amazing this tv looks lol
For oled, in a dark room, your eyes just adjust to the max brightness, evdn then after a long dark scene i get flashbanged by a sudden bright spot or bright scene and even have to put my hands up to block it just to see whats going on in the dark parts, 5000 nits is great but your eyes would be constantly having to adjust to the insane contrast between basically zero and 5000 compared to 0 to 300-400
Mini LED causes input lag so this thing is dead unless they solve that issue, and u bet it is expensive also
So funny 🤣🤣🤣.
Still nothing to what you can buy on chinese market. TCL have 115X11G MAX with over 20000 dimming zones.
Background local dimming will NEVER be better than individual pixels turning on/off. Sorry, just facts.
Who cares about 5000 nits? I don't even like bright images, especially not in a darkroom. Just give me LG OLEDs they are bright enough for me, I still love my LG 65C9. I also bought a 42C3, they both look great with all content!
You have to remember dual-stack RGB-OLED is right round the corner, double the luminance for colours/brightness/contrast/greyscale/everything, it will make even this display look silly, not to mention multi-stack RGB-OLED to follow on from that, then there is multi-stack true mLED (real self-emissive microLED), that will be of the charts incredible.
"right around the corner" errr...nope. we'll go through at least 5 years more of QD-Oled, and then emerge the first affordable MicroLED's...
@@TheAntifluencer Apple will be the first to release dual-stack RGB-OLED devices next year, so like I said, right round the corner.
Dual Stack? QD-OLED and WOLED Monitors and TVs have 3 stack
@@Wobble2007 Apple is busy with Apple Vision Pro, which are VR glasses meant to replace TVs. 😂
@@ameserich lol, were not talking about the amount of layers in the panel makeup, were talking about actual multi-stack OLED layers, the closest thing relative is dual-cell LCD.
IT WILL BURN A HOLE IN UR WALLETS
this dude is so funny in a sea of boring dry nerd videos
What the fuck is ”outside”?😮
I have aids. Need a new tv for my VCR.
Yeah but no 42'
And no 24" 1080p :) :) Always whiners who nitpick something silly.
nah,allmost all content is max 1000 nits so nah
OLED still better if you know how to take care of one last time, I checked, infinite contrast is still better you know hence the name infinite…. and a brand like TCL get real😂 If you believe that I got a Hitachi TV I can sell you it’s the best on the market.
ok
Micro-LED is the future (This TV isn't as decent as OLED. It's brighter though ;( ) [You are etching too many Vincent videos.]
future in 2030/2033
This will still look worse than a qd-oled. Nice clickbaity title and description where you said it may make oled "obsolete" though. Wouldn't expect anything less from youtubers.
Typical overkill and marketing ala Samsung , mini led always will be lcd .5000 nits its useless for hdr mastered uhd disc's whis most is at 1000 nits .Colours never will be like on QD oled , offaxis terrible , only size win for now
that's a mistake¹
Japanese big screen is still superior
Tcl with their shi**ty upscaling motion n gradient handling has no hope..n most of the content dont even support 5000 nits..i expect bad blooming as well
Even the QM8 doesn’t have good viewing angles. As long as it’s LCD its motion will be inferior to OLED too. And from what I hear the gradient handling isn’t that far removed from the r635, which BTW was ATROCIOUS. It made even GOOD looking stuff look bad.
@ralphpollard4304 yea man...tcl n hisense have the same problem..horrible viewing angle n poor motion..im gonna stick with oled...modded s95c is plenty bright
This video sound just like some asian dude video 😂😂😂😂😂