I REALLY Wanted to Try Mini LED... and it's GREAT!
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Samsung's latest NEO QLED TVs are designed around some brand new tech, also featured in Apple's latest iPad Pro called Mini LEDs. They've been teasing them for a couple years now and today I finally get to try them out!
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0:00 Intro
1:07 QLED vs OLED History Lesson
2:23 Dimming Zones Explained
3:23 Alternative Options
3:50 Samsung NEO QLED Introduction
4:56 Bright Room Image Comparison
9:10 Dark Room Image Comparison
10:43 Can Linus Tell the Difference?
11:39 Image Comparison Conclusion
12:43 Q-Symphony Audio Test (Fail)
13:41 Outro - Věda a technologie
Just turn on the subtitles. That's the ultimate test for any kind of local dimming.
I always go for the credits screen. That's motion blur, contrast, bloom and sharpness.
@@kye3k1 GeniuSus
@Garrus Vakarian bad thing with oled and subs is that sometimes they are too bright. Like with HDR movies, you have subtitles all the way in highest possible brightness. Espestialy with DV on netflix.
@@j3sion Good point. With Netflix on OLED, I've found semi-transparent subtitles less blinding.
Space sequences with all black background and moving small bright stars are even harder for mini LED backlight algorithms.
Me on my 1080p VA monitor: “yep I can totally see the difference between these TVs.”
lol
VA has good colors tho
1080p Ips from 12 years ago.
The colors look worse than my other 900p TA monitor😂
Me on my 1080p TN monitor*
@@joaovmlsilva3509 I had mine broke down on me last year from 2008, to be honest it's plastic was really high quality in comparison to others but the contrast sucked on that LCD
If a Mini LED is just an LED that is small, then what is a Mini Ladd?
a person that tried to show mini lads his mini lad
I FUCKING KNEW IT SOMEONE GOTTA SAY THIS AFTER WATCHING NOGLA AND BRIAN'S VIDEO LMAOOOO
@@ookamidesu000 i came there too
A pedo.
I'll do you one better, why is mini ladd
Q-Symphony is very impressive BTW.
Works perfectly on my Q950T + QN900A setup.
Adds a lot of depth to the sound, which surprised me given flat panel TV speakers are usually so abysmal. The TV does have impressively large rear firing woofers in it though.
Linus for months on end: we're gonna do HDR! Look at our dedicated HDR mastering room! We are gonna do HDR!
*releases 15 minute video about HDR without HDR*
Really pathetic really
@@barongerhardt Thanks, very helpful.
@@barongerhardt thanks, but I don’t even have HDR
@@barongerhardt great vid
@@barongerhardt best tutorial ever
can't wait to afford one of these bad boys in 12 years
TCL 6 series (2020+) has a mini led backlight, and they are QLED, only down sides are the 55 inch model has something like 128 dimming zones and 120hz require a 1440p input
Only 12 years?
Yup
Or you could wait to black Friday.
You're optimistic
Having had this TV for soon a year now. It's great. Seriously nothing else that can match it, not even Samsung's newer 2022 models. Picture clarity, local dimming and contrast is just amazing, while also having it EXTREMELY accurately calibrated.
I wish I'd seen this review a week ago when my 4-year old Sony Bravia decided to go to TV heaven. I was aware of QLED from reviews and decided that it was the better choice than n OLED for the environment it's located. Got a Samsung Q70A QLED which arrived yesterday and I was really impressed with the picture compared to the prior Sony. But I didn't really have a chance to do the research that I normally would have done, and was not aware of the additional benefits of Neo QLED. The price difference for the 55-inch (which is what I got) was only $300, so I would probably have sprung for the Neo QLED. However, the Q70A QLED is till a great picture. I'm impressed by the black levels, the vivid colors, and the level of detail in the pictures.
"Fundamentally, a mini LED is the same as a regular LED, only smaller."
Mind = blown
As opposed to micro LED which are pixel scale, allowing the elimination of a backlight entirely and all that goes with that.
@@djayjp That was a well written and informative comment that might not have seen the light.
@@MrVolksbeetle Lol
In other news:
If you hit a home run, you get to run home.
"Hmm, yes, the floor appears to be made of floor" or however the meme goes. :p
"Long answer, yes I could tell
Short answer, no, not from an actual reasonable viewing distance"
Why was your short answer longer than your long answer??
😂
😂
Some men just want to watch the world burn.
Because he is referring to the reasoning behind to get to the actual answer, not the actual yes or no answer.
Fuuuuuck asking the real questions here
4:37 Linus' ability to drop things even when he isn't holding them is impeccable.
Linus: How many dimimg zones you have?
Samsung: Supreme
Me trying to analyze the shadows with the CZcams compression 🤡
Basically pixel soup
And the OLED footage is not even in focus.
and by using lcd monitor
their darks looks pretty darks in my TN display, and so vibrant colors, wow!
And with 144p
"We had a scripted outro" I mean, man, you weren't kidding about being surprised.
@@Prophes0r bro can you not take a joke lmao… be not serious for once
@@Prophes0r well no shit
👀
@@Prophes0r More to the point is if they expect it could go either way they make a script for each possible conclusion. So in this example 1 for if it is good and 1 for if it is bad but because they were so sure that it was going to be bad they didn't even consider planning a positive script.
@NaN This!
Thanks so much for this video!Literally been looking at both of these options as my next TV purchase
I bought the TCL 6 Series late last year which is Mini LED QLED with Dolby Vision and oh my is it amazing! I never thought I would be able to get black levels and contrast similar to OLED without the crazy cost. It’s definitely the best TV purchase decision I’ve made.
What model?
"we turned off all lighting not required for filming" *RGB glow from background PCs in screen*
That was required for filming.
Oop
😂
I'm so glad you guys started doing timestamps, it makes it so much easier to find specific information in your videos.
But, you won't ever rewatch the video so what does it matter?
@@Blackfeet what
@@mathias4514 huh
@@Blackfeet why wouldn't I though? theLinus makes really enjoyable content and it's good to watch even if for the second time
I watched many videos in order to decide for my tv. This one was by far the best one. Great content, thank you!
Linus, I sell TVs for a living and let me tell you this: your local dimming explanation should be mandatory to each and every buyer, this was just spot on, great work!
Hey bro, need ur advice if u can. In ur opinion,
Which is better for excessive hardcore ps5 gaming and watching movies with subtitles.
Lg c1
Or neo qled qn85a?
What's the average life time for c1 anyway without burn in?
@@mohammedel-asfer9753 I had the same question but no one would answer. I just went ahead and pulled the trigger on the C1. Burn-in is in the back of my mind but I have warranty plus the overall quality beats the QN85. The only thing the QN85 does better is the brightness.
@@Bbknuckles can you update us on C1? how it's doing now?
"QLED, short for Quantum Dot LED - Backlit LCD" I'm glad we started with 1 acronym and ended with 2 different ones 😂
Really shady of Samsung to call it QLED trying to fool people into thinking its OLED
@@mikeydude750 only get tricked if you can't take the time to read. And we all know taking ones time and reading is hard.
Yuh
Quantum Dot Light Emitting Diode Backlit Liquid Crystal Display
@@98ek9 the trick is tricking people into thinking QLED is a fundamentally different display technology when it's just an iteration on LCD. Which the average consumer doesn't know.
Linus with his backwards cap: "how do you do, fellow kids?"
😂
when i read this the meme immediately pictured in my mind haha
What’s up gang?!
😂
That "ZOOMER THINGS" jab really didn't help him seem any younger. x)
Hisense's stuff is finally coming out?? Freakin finally! I remember being excited about it from your CES 2019 coverage.
Warm2 or Warm 50 in new LG models is the most accurate out-of-the-box color tone btw. It is clearly visible if you compare Jake's or Linus's skin tone to that on the TVs in Standard tone. Also Bladerunner 2049 is a really bad example of HDR content rarely hitting anything above 200 nits.
If Linus sitting almost results in dropping a laptop, I can’t begin to imagine how often he drops things.
He should be a DJ, he has everything one needs, including crazy drops.
Same thing i was thinking.. lol
He had to do this to afford his lifestyle.
Great video guys! We really enjoyed listening to your impressions of the two TVs side-by-side. The QN90A we bought and tested was even better than the QN85A. We'd be curious to see what you think!
Fake ratings
I love your website :) really good info
No one cares, tv picture technology has already reached its saturation point, has done for years now and can not advance anymore, so these new tv's are in reality nothing new.
test all against there real competition the LG G1's
@@tyronenelson9124 Tv technology goes around display technology.
Display technology HAS to advance.
Heard of virtual reality?
this is really really nicely explained for the average user coming into the market and just bedazzled by the various available options. Thank you so much for the history lesson!!
The kids didn't want to try Mini Led, but he made them try anyway.
If you know, you know.
"They're monsters, but they do it"
Right on Linus.
What's his reasoning for that opinion? I assume it's because if you mount it flat against the fireplace then the viewer will be at an odd viewing angle, but you can easily angle the TV down to a straight on view.
Calling someone a monster is a pretty hot take so am I missing something on why you "shouldn't" mount TVs on fireplaces?
@@LightsLuck- Probably because a fireplace is used to generate heat and excess heat is bad for most modern tech.
I work in a retail big box store and some of the TVs could already function as a heater they put out so much heat when you stand close to them, I actually thought I was standing under the vent for the heater last week but looking up showed there wasn't one and all the heat I was feeling was coming from the 75" TV I was standing in front of.
Mounting one of those above another heat source is asking to drastically shorten the lifespan of your device.
@@LightsLuck- Two reasons mainly, for one it's mounted higher than your usual line of sight, so you'll have to be angling your neck up to view it, which can put a lot of strain on your neck after a short while. On top of that, assuming you use your fireplace as well, a fireplace, then the heat as well as any stray smoke are going to rise up to your TV, which is not very good for any electronics. It's not the worst thing in the world, but it's far from the best place to put a TV.
I felt personally attacked. 🤣
If your fireplace is letting out enough smoke into your house to damage your TV, you best be moving houses. The whole point of chimneys is to prevent smoke from entering the house.
As for heat, bricks are really good at preventing heat creep and wouldn't pass any directly to the TV mount itself. I suppose the ambient temperature around the fireplace could be an issue, but only if you have the TV close enough to the actual flames. There is a reason BBQs have the grill essentially on the flame. The heat dissipates extremely quickly.
And the viewing angle is only a problem if you have a straight backed chair and a flat TV mount. Angling the TV 20° down and sitting in a recliner is the same as viewing straight on.
I guess my point is the obvious cons of fireplace mounting are easily avoided so it seems odd to have a hard no stance on it when so many houses are designed around the fireplace being the vocal point of a living room.
I was impressed there were zero ads until I realized this is just one long ad
Wait this was AN AD
Honey, LTT STore, Mircocenter, and Samsung... You know you're oversaturated with ad content when you literally perceive them as content. Kind of like that scene from Demolition Man where they turn on the oldies station and it's just straight add jingles.
lmao
Or, it might actually be a review of a product featuring a particular tech that actually worked pretty well. But I'm just a conspiracy theorist. I know that for real you can't actually like something on the Internet without being a shill.
@@nickwallette6201 It didn’t work pretty well it was subpar
Just bought the QN90A with the Q900A sound system, gonna pick it up in the morning!!! Super excited after watching this👍🏼
@Jamie Ibrahim amazing my man👌🏻definitely worth it
Have had my 85in QN90A since they launched and absolutely love it!!!! Glad you guys approved this tv. Thanks for the vid!!!
all 85" panels are VA, the review is ADS-IPS panel
@@kwizatzart because of the size or something?
@@heavybism1 yes there is no 85" nor 50" ADS-IPS panel, but VA are better you should be happy
Love how linus always takes the tvs out of the most color accurate mode, he does it almost every time they look at tvs. btw linus, warm2 was probably nearly bang on for white point and color accuracy lol
I cried when he switched it off warm2 to match the samsung instead of the other way around, then again when he switched the Samsung in the end too.
As a follower of Vincent, this killed me.
came here to say this except I'm not laughing about it
I still don't understand this. If D65 white is meant to be daylight white then why would warm/warm2 be more accurate?! Can someone explain!
@@rorymarsh idk I just go by what Vincent from HDTVTest says and he says that Warm2 has the best accuracy
11:31 long answer "yes, I could tell" short answer "no, not from an actual reasonable viewing distance"
5:40 also. I mean look at the skin tone, OLED is more "natural"
It’s a hunk of junk
@@serge23rus If you don't like the colors, that's easily fixed with a bit more calibration.
What is the point of you typing out something we heard while watching the video?
@@Retromags_Brian It's for people who don't want to watch it all probably. But it's kind of unnecessary when they already have the video segmented.
I have the 55 QN90A and I truly believe it's a fantastic display, very bright and colorful.
Just got the 65 inch QN93, really happy with it, and happy LTT also loves it. That way I know I’m not missing out!
LG's "Warm2" is as close to D65 as you get out-of-the-box, so... You shouldn't have changed it.
I'll change it in a heart beat.
I hate the yellow hue warm settings add
@@nighttimestalker the thing is its not a yellow hue add, the normal or cool colour is just a blue tint add
@@j.dixelius
Na. It's called adjusting it.
The yellow hue is fucking awful imo. The blue isn't great but still acceptable.
But normal people like me adjust it manually without relying on presets anyway.
@@nighttimestalker Nah bro it's not a yellow tint trust me my dad works for Samsung and he told me
@@nighttimestalkerNormal, maybe, but not correct. Blue has an advantage of looking brighter and it's why most TVs in a store have the blues cranked up to flood our eyes with perceived brightness. However, the warm/dimmer looks is typically more accurate in most situations. (Let a meter confirm, can't trust yourself or environment half the time.) I'll give Linus the benefit of the doubt that trying to make the TVs push out more brightness in a bluer comparison does a better job of trying to spot dimming zones / algorithm at work.
8:59 Just wanted to say that as someone who is deliberately slow to adopt new tech and doesn't experiment much, I would appreciate seeing tests like that and hearing your thoughts anyway. Because I don't have that intuitive experience you've built up and you were already surprised by how well it performed once. Regardless, this was informative and entertaining. Love it when Linus and the staff get to bounce off each other during videos. And I'm looking forward to some great TV's in the coming decade.
is that Saint Floyd of Fentanyl?!?
I bought the QN90A with a discount and its totally worth it. I was also thinking for an LG Oled but I was afraid about burn ins since I will also use it sometimes as a monitor for my pc and I have great experience with Samsung customer support instead of LG whch I have a terrible experience.
I just upgraded to a 55 QNA90 from a 49 MU6300 I can’t wait to be blown again for my series x! Just like how I was when I got the one x for the 49 MU6300
moves mouse to dark part of screen and cries in bloom - thanks for pointing out what i was oblivious to
Oh I'm very sorry, you'll never unsee
"Supreme is not a number" LMAO
Samsung pulling a classic Apple "non descriptive fluff word that sounds impressive to your average consumer" product description
Instrument: Mayonnaise
Hey guys … great video as always … what is the older QLED that you are referring to, that has the problem with the black bars, bad enough for you to switch to OLED ? Thank you … keep up the good work! 😎greetings from London 😎
Awesome video but I think you should have used same size screen and also used either a C1 or even g1 for a comparison. I'm a fan of mini led qned and neo but a 65 inch cx or c1 comes in cheaper and also has 4 hdmi 2.1 ports and c1 has better game performance as where Samsung still has 1 even on their 8k TV.
Linus really reminds me of that Steve Buscemi "fellow kids" meme when he wears a baseball cap like that.
nice copy paste
Classic "douche bag" style.
Thanos: beating the shit out of iron man
Linus: well that’s unfortunate
It would have been nice to see comparison with subtitles enabled. Subtitles bleeding was the reason I bought an OLED display.
This video is the reason I bought a QN85A, Yesterday. Linus, your saving lives out here.
I was reading about the "geriatric millennials" and this image of Linus using a baseball cap backwards appeared.
If LTT doesn’t heart this comment, I don’t know what I’ll do.
Ha! I read that, too.
You never need to say “pun intended” because we always know you intend to pun. But carry on lol.
dumb
agreed. people who say no pun or pun intended are lame.
Everyone replying to this comment must be super fun at parties.. oof..
@@JamesPederson85 right, it's like saying, "you got my joke" lol
@@maurosixtos it’s silly, but I was just poking fun - I love puns, so I’m here for it haha..
Watching this on the mini led iPad and this display in HDR is all that - best I’ve ever seen
That Hisesense Monochrome LCD layer sounds super interesting! Just use LCD as a backlight for the main one, genius!
“A mini led is just a led but smaller”-Linus tech tips 2021
“So a huge led is just a led but bigger”
- Linus, probably
Big facts 👏
Minus Tech Tips -jk
its like we watched the same video
Techquickie
I really enjoy Jake and Linus's dynamic when Geeking out over technology
I love my 32inch VA panel.. I'm gonna be very sad when it finally gives up. Because occasionally i look around to see what's available and i don't find anything like it.
Mini ladd?
linus: its black you can't even see it
youtube algorithm: yeah about that
How does the algorithm affect the video quality?
@@rayyanshaikh5591 yeah he probably refers about the compression youtube does
Ooo burn
I think you're referring to the compression.
@@olivertrees yes its compression but compression doesn't have that snap to it.
Jake with his stache kinda looks like that state trooper that pulls you over and before getting to your window, smashes your taillight and straight up shoots one of you tires. Then without missing a beat asks for your license and registration followed by "You're not from around here are ya?"
I took delivery of a 2021 75 inch 8K Neo QLED QN900A last month. So far I’m loving it.
Wife isn’t sure it’s worth the crazy £8k cost yet though, especially as we currently have no 8K sources 😂
9:44 the rgb fan in the reflection ruined it xD Big OEUFF Linus!!!!
4:37 how could it be an ltt video without Linus hitting or dropping something
“It all comes down to LCD.”
It hurts that all is the same....
@literally ur dope ???
Pretty much...we need a self emissive Quantum Dot display...I just don’t think I could switch back to a transmissive display...just too many distractions for my taste. However, I do miss the peak brightness and color volume of a QLED.
@@ye-rochawkins5432 i like your funny words, magic man
@@cybercery5271 😂
@@ye-rochawkins5432 oled with quantum dot color filter? But it won't be that bright. Mini and microLEDs are the future
The first and only oled display i've owned was the ps vita and while i was blown away by how different it was and could see a lot of advantages in terms of things like battery life a handheld could make use of the technology as a whole never really caught me
Have you not tried any modern flagship phone of the last 4 years?
@@marcusborderlands6177 Honestly no, I really don't use my phone much so I never bother spending that much for one
@@lukemacinnes5124 when your current phone gets worn out, grab a flagship from last year or the year before. i got my oneplus 8 a year after it came out for 240 new in box. Plus oled screens are on a lot more than just flagships, its just that most people dont tend to have midrange phones around where i am, so i didnt mention em (its either 1500 dollar flagships or 50 dollar cheap androids that lead to people thinking androids are crap overall, lol)
@@marcusborderlands6177 I used to use a super cheap one myself, could honestly see myself switching back lmao, i got a razer phone 2 a couple years back, on my second one after getting a replacement and still having issues, cheap phone still works fine
@@lukemacinnes5124 i think thats more the fact that you bought razer lol, havent had a single product from them besides a mouse last longer than a year. Cheap phones lost their allure for me when i found out the new/open box 1-2 year old flagship market was so huge
The best is subtitles. Watching a movie with subtitles shows up bloom like nothing else.
“That is a lot to live up to, just like our sponsor” saw that one coming lmao
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I have a Samsung Q9fn 75" tv from 2018 and the almost 500 local dimming zones are already incredible and the results you have on these models are almost identical actually to mine I think. At least for a normal experience even in a verry lit up environment.
4k content in HDR is incredible on those display. The only real upgrade is HDMI 2.1 and 120hz in 4k. Maybe the sound to even though the sound is quite good on the q9fn.
Tl;Dr: Samsung TVs are honestly not *genuinely* worth their pricing, at least not this generation.
The Samsung models have relatively few dimming zones. The most in their new series is in the 700s while other competitors are 900-1000+ zones, such as LGs top models with a little more than 900 zones, ≈30% more than the Samsungs. Not to speak on the quality of dimming algorithms per TV(my own personal experience with Sam TVs expects there to be some rather glaring flaws as usual), but as far as hardware goes the Samsung lineup is only *barely* within the realm of miniLED. Samsung is kinda like the Bose of TVs, they tend to have lower spec hardware in their TVs than others but punch above their weight with "EQ" and their practically limitless tv r&d budget on how to get the most out of the least for the best profit. Not that I begrudge that business model, Bose has it down to an exact science and it works for them. Samsung... Not so much.
I just saw that MINI led tv and I am blown away at how close it looks to a Sony OLED. Super impressed!
I just bought this television 2 days ago, primarily for my PS5, and I love it. I mean,…I really love it. It’s replacing a 46” Panasonic Viera plasma television that has been a real reliable, tough television over the last 12 or so years. This Hisense was a steal at $1000 and 24 months same as cash. I can’t believe how bright this tv is and how beautiful HDR and Dolby Vision content look. And I’ve quit using my Logitech surround sound system since this tv’s sound is plenty capable for its’ location; my basement. If you can’t fathom spending 2 grand for a 65” tv, buy this thing! You will not be disappointed. I come from a PC background so, I love to tinker and this tv does require some trial and error to come to a picture quality that you are happy with. That being said. I would not buy another tv if you paid me to. This tv is by far the best tv for the money, hands down.
1:05 Love the reference to Samsung marketing pretending that QLED is similar to OLED.
What do you mean? It's identical besides the squiggly
@@drewbocop Do you mean the letter or the technology? I agree about the letter, the display technology and image quality are so far apart that it's not even fun. Both technologies have pros and cons, though.
Can't be more true
When I first see a Samsung QLED TV I thought it's was another name for OLED.
The Q was definitely marketing. Trying to confuse people. QLED is just rebranding of LED LCD displays. No disrespect to the tech, I had my LED LCD TV for over a decade from before the Q and was perfectly happy with it.
Damn that screen looks so good! Hope linus don't drop it through!
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@@Odin2244 hmm really 😂
@@Odin2244 and why should I care?
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That actually looks very impressive. I would assume that because it is LED it will use less power and put out less heat as well. Plus no burn in issues or auto dimming features to deal with. I love my C9 oled but it has a few draw backs. The auto dimming feature is pretty annoying when using it as a computer monitor and I haven't found a way to disable it yet. It will just randomly get really dim, then step up to really bright while I am using it. I have controlled it to an extent and am getting used to it but it is still annoying. Not an issue at all when watching tv or movies though. And my oled also puts out a fair amount of heat compared to the LCD I had before.
any burn-in issues?
@@Bbknuckles Actually yes. Just recently, like a month ago maybe I noticed I was getting burn in or retention on my C9. I was watching a movie and noticed something odd at the bottom of the screen. I checked it with a solid color pattern and my bottom task bar and a few of the icons were still on the screen. Like the windows logo and my firefox icon. As well as the complete task bar strip on the bottom. I didn't think it would be an issue because it was black but it still did it.. As soon as I saw it I panicked and went out and got a 27 inch 1440 monitor to use instead. My advice is don't use an oled for a computer monitor unless you don't use your computer very often. It took over a year to do it and my computer is on a LOT. Like more than 12 hours a day. Luckily it isn't bad enough that I can really notice it when watching a movie or tv unless I look for it. I'm hoping it might correct itself over time with pixel refresh but I don't think it will. I used my 55 sharp LCD tv for years as a computer monitor and it never had any issues. So if you are looking to use a large screen tv for a computer monitor I would suggest going with a LCD/LED style over LED. The Oleds have better blacks and contrast but that is about it unless you are a huge movie nerd that wants a super accurate display.
@@biteme263 I'm looking to use it for normal use i.e movies, TV, and gaming. I'm a variety gamer, I never play the same game for too long but I do play about 4hrs a day (roughly). I ordered the C1 but I still have time to cancel and get the QN85 this is so frustrating I hate it! :(
@@Bbknuckles I think you would be ok if you were console gaming and didn't play the same game for hours a day every day. Then you might get a hud or something burn in. Then again I play second life a lot on my computer and nothing from that burned in. Just my task bar. I would also be concerned if you watched a lot of tv that had a banner or ticker on all the time, like CNN or something like that. But it would probably have to be on all day or something. For movies they are hard to beat as far as how good they look. Especially 4K ultra HD with HDR or dolby vision. Another thing I would consider is how well you control the lighting in your room and how bright you need it to be. An LED in most cases will get brighter and will honestly probably have a longer life span. I really like my Oled but if I had it to do over again I am not sure I would get one with what is currently available. I would check out RTINGS channel, they do really good honest reviews.
@@biteme263 I checked their video out but it only confused me more lol. I’m just gonna see what happens f-it. I’m using this in my room which is super dark 99% of the time. Although I’m probably gonna crank the brightness up on the C1 to max. Luckily I bought the 5yr warranty 😅
I recently bought one of these i love my tv i watch alot of Netflix and play alot of my ps5 my 2015 4k veon tv just doesn't complete on any level, glad to see I didn't mess up.
Could’ve picked a movie that actually has HDR, Deakins kept the brightness low on this HDR colour grade.
what movie is this?
@@ExarchGaming Blade Runner 2049
Trouble is Samsung will continue to suck in HDR due to insisting on not supporting Dolby Vision.
Or maybe one of the Spears & Munsil benchmark 4k blurays.
@@rodryguezzz oh damn that takes me back. used to know a professional ISF calibrator, he told me which of those calibration DVDs (then, now blu-ray) to use, he said I could get close, just not as close as him because he has a special tool to get the colors dead on.
Watching this video on a led mobile phone really allows me to see the differences. The differences are minimum, but it there
Thank LG and Samsung for constantly researching new ways to make good TV cheaper. Not everyone have 5000usd to spare on a TV
I bought the LG C1, and it's great as a PC monitor, but the fear of Burn In is strong. Like, playing AC Valhalla, I turned the compass off... but then I didn't know where to go. I wonder if it'd be dumb to exchange it for the Samsung QN90a so there's less worry?
Dont be scared, it needs years of usage to develope a burn in. Watch some burn-in test to comfort yourself :D
I just bought the a90j for one room and C1 for gaming in another but am considering the same thing. Gaming can cause burn in so much faster due to all the static images. If you have more than one console though you should stick with the C1 as the qn90a only has one hdmi 2.1 port. I think next years Samsung’s and Sony’s will have more hdmi 2.1 hopefully
then why did you buy it if you had the common sense to know you had to baby sit and make it last for at least 5 years before minor burn ins start to show up. Do you have to much money on your hands,maybe consider giving it away to charity.
@@MGrey-qb5xz You probably dont have any luxury items, like a smart phone or a PC, or a PS4-5. If you do, please, give it away to charity.
@@sollap2 It is real. I had burn in on my C9 after 1,5 years of normal use. Stop lying to make yourself feel better. Also it's not a matter of 'if' your oled will get burn in, more a question of 'when'.
I just love that linus is the biggest nerd ever and he is proud for it. GOOD JOB you are a hero to all of us!!!!
Warm2 is actually the most accurate white balance to D65. I struggled with this too, as it did look too warm for me - but unfortunately the industry standard is warmer than you think, so you're actually not getting an accurate picture by going to warm1 or a neutral temp.
Also, these TVs may look similar side by side watching a particular movie, but as someone else said, using a movie with a grade that isn't bright doesn't help compare them well because the backlight probably isn't doing as much. On Grey uniformity and a bunch of other things the OLED still blows the QLED out of the water. Interested to see the QN90A though with that VA panel.
i don't think there's a necessity to force yourself to accept industry standards. if you think it looks too warm, just configure it in a way you like.
what the content creators want and what the people want are two different things lol. the q90c now as the model has upgraded generatins and panels is amazing. i had the c3 oled and returned it for the q90c brightness does matter alot let me tell you how good a explosion looks in a black night time scene at 2k nits while the rest of the screen is pure black and this firey ember burns in the middle of your screen looking like its a fire thru a window not tv set.
if you like a dark mancave oled is your choice. if you game in natural light dont like cave settings qled.
Oled had deeper color reproduction while qled has richer cripser colors if that makes any sense. im more of a saturated image reds pop and look sharp typem guy and qled delivers over oled in this .
the final combo is the qled oled tvs from samsung those things must be the absolute tits
He uses monitors all the time though, and likely calibrated for work, so it's weird that he's not used to D65. I've seen it on other videos too: he tends to like cooler temps.
Linus is probably the only person i'd never hand my electronics to. Every episode is an emotional rollercoaster of fear of destruction.... rip macbook
He can replace any of your tech tho
I agree with the other comments that a movie that went for a more aggressive grade would've made a better test. I don't think blade runner would challenge any sort of "mid-range" (depending on your definition for mid-range) or above tv
Excelente Review com bons exemplos de imagem 😁👍
"Now this one looks a little green" Scene was prob shot with a green filter.
They should have used the Battle of Winterfell to judge the disparity between the two.
Bought a Q Neo after a lot of research and not disappointed. Looks incredible in a bright room. OLED is great too but you have to decide what's best for your room and your use.
Warm preset is the most faithful color balance!
It's very likely that you two might disagree about which display looks green / pink due to observer metamerism. You each have different cone cell pigmentations in your retina, in addition to a few other factors. For wide gamut displays this difference can create a noticeable pink or green color cast depending on the observer!
they both seem to like cool colors too. i used to, too, but now i've warmed a bit to "warm2". i prefer it. oleds are too cool from factory, technically they're most accurate at their warmest setting, tho to me that's too much
Is there backing to what you say? I really notice blue or green tinting on most oleds and I think I was nuts. IPS to my eyes still produce nicer whites on some models. Really bright ones like QN85 has better whites on display racks but I'm guessing it's because it's crazy bright and the angles are wide.
Really hate brightness/gamma shifting on VA panels and heavily affects whites for me.
@@aideniridescence1437 There are a huge number of papers written on the measurable color perception differences of color-normal observers, but specific to displays this is a good paper.
Park, Yongmin, Michael J. Murdoch, and Mark D. Fairchild. "Observer metamerism: Why do [mis] matches of neutral appear pinkish or greenish?." In Color and Imaging Conference, vol. 2020, no. 28, pp. 7-12. Society for Imaging Science and Technology, 2020.
@@TuckerDowns Thanks.
I thought you said "observer materialism" lol
Turn on the subtitles and enjoy the dimming zones!
Ha ha very true, most under rated comment.
After watching this video when it came out a year ago. I waited for the Micro LED TVs and it was worth it compared to Neo QLED . I think in person Samsung's MicroLED is quite nice and quite bright relative to the Neo QLED but then being so expensive it was a bit of a bummer. I hope it catches on and becomes more popular, so that it can get more affordable. I really like the look of MicroLED.
My family just got this TV but in 55" (which i believe is also a samsung VA panel). Looking forward to seeing how it looks even though I'll probably hardly ever watch anything on it, unless my family is gone and I can set up some proper audio in the living room temporarily lol (i do have the gear as well in the garage!). I also just go new monitors this year and last, so i'm in a similar position in terms of picture quality, even if i don't have 4k (didn't want to deal with driving 4k120hz when 1440p is fine for games). I have a feeling my mom is going to hate the soundbar though, she doesn't like bass at all lmao. Gonna have to make her just deal with it if we ever watch movies lmao. At least it supports 120hz freesync input over HDMI 2.0, so if I want to haul my backbreakingly heavy gaming PC to the living room sometime to test that out properly, I can experience 4k120hz gaming for the first time ever in some older games that I can run that way smoothly on my 2080ti, since it has the VRAM to handle it at least
me watching on my 768p LCD: Ooooo I can see these stuffs, totally!
Ltt always bringing us daily uploads, what a legend
I thought they've been uploading daily for a long time
@@dr.vishantpriyadarshi7050 they have, that's why I love them
You need to check out Lg's 2022 qned models. Last week I bought a 65 qned85 and I am very pleased with it. Excellent blacks and the contrast is good. And the odd thing is it only has a couple of hundred zones. I don't know how they do it but the blacks are still good. I think the qned90 series is closer to 800 zones. I paid $1197 on an early black Friday sale via Amazon so a great price for this tv. I have a bright living room btw so that is why I wanted a mini-led.
Nogla and Brine LED me here
brine
me too
I'm just patiently waiting for Linus' reaction for the mini LED iPad Pro
I clicked too early. I even saw them setting up.
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@@Odin2244 shut up
Cute pfp
@@Odin2244 do better kid.
@@Odin2244 did we ask?
just saw the 55qn90a .....that tv is awesome !!! near-Oled blacks and Qled brightness !!! a big improvement over the q95t ( so dissappointing )
Checkout 7:25 (frame by frame) where we can see the backlight microLEDs turning on, on the Samsung QN85A on the top left corner when the scene transitions from the big metal structure on the left to the view of the horizon.
Nice catch.
Just a fun spec to throw out there regarding light elements on TVs: if you consider per light element dimming, a 1080p plasma display had 2,073,600 pixels, each red, green and blue sub pixel was emissive so it had 6,220,800 dimming zones. OLED panels from LG use stacked pixel elements with red, green, blue and white so it has one light source for each pixel rather than plasma's 3. LCD is not emissive so the comparison doesn't really matter but in a numbers game plasma should have been marketing all those "zones" 😁
I still jealously hold onto my old Panasonic plasma display. 1080P and 600hz refresh (black to black) As the refresh is a full scan/wipe of the screen and not some backlighting tricks, there is zero tearing, artifacts, trails, blurring, or whatever. I still wish they made them. Then again, the best TV I ever saw was a giant 200 inch or so model at a casino. It was a 4K display made up OF LEDs.(think display signs) Your brain does simply not compute the first time you see it as it's like OLED and a Jumbotron had an illicit love child. So there is always "better" for us mere mortals to aspire to :)
4:37 Linus never looks before he leaps
bhery bhery true XD
his sound totally changed when the biig stroong heavy laptop falled on him
Love this. Im stuck between the mini led and qd oled. Im in a bright front room and watch mostly 1080p stuff..with the new qn95c and the s95c which would you pick.
Too bad you didn't get the Q-Symphony to work. I got so hyped when you mentioned it, haha. I have heard it testen in the store and it sounds absolutely wonderful!