TCL Unleash X955 Mini LED TV with 5000 Nits Peak Brightness & 5000+ Zones!

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  • čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
  • TCL has announced its new flagship X955 Mini LED TV at its global online press conference, featuring 5000 nits of HDR peak brightness & 5184 local dimming zones.
    The world's number 2 TV brand also launched the C955 (2000 local dimming zones & peak brightness), the C755, as well as the 98P745 which is the world's most affordable 98-inch TV.
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Komentáře • 509

  • @SeanSecret
    @SeanSecret Před rokem +61

    1:34 "I was bored enough to measure the peak brightness of several real world objects in my garden..."
    This is why I love this dude lol

    • @WindomRettes
      @WindomRettes Před rokem +2

      Imagine the time he has on his hands to do all this and more.

  • @changeCMOS8484
    @changeCMOS8484 Před rokem +133

    TCL released the 115X11G MAX yesterday, the 115-inch Chinese version of the X955, with the number of backlight local dimming zones upgraded from 5,184 to 20,736 and the percentage of the window covered by 5,000 nits of peak luminance becoming larger, and it's priced at 79,999RMB / 10,968USD. Looks like TCL is faster paced in China.

    • @documentthedrama8279
      @documentthedrama8279 Před rokem +29

      20 000 dimming zones sounds insane

    • @Izquierda
      @Izquierda Před rokem +11

      Yeah they are ahead in China for sure, TCL had equivalent models for these X955 out in China for a while, as well as a smaller model (75'') with 3000 nits and 3000+ zones.

    • @changeCMOS8484
      @changeCMOS8484 Před rokem

      @@documentthedrama8279 But what's even crazier is the price. A mass-produced large TV and actually sells for much less than the MSRP. The practical equivalent of paying twice the price of the Chinese version 98X955 to get a 17" larger picture and four times the local dimming zone, along with actually higher peak brightness (7000nit peak short-term & 5000nit in larger window).

    • @changeCMOS8484
      @changeCMOS8484 Před rokem +11

      @@Izquierda Unfortunately TCL didn't bring it to the US/EU markets. It was a bad decision.

    • @vladdx
      @vladdx Před rokem +10

      @@changeCMOS8484 It wasn't a bad decision as TCL still doesn't have the brand recognition in EU and US to sell top tier TVs while breaking even let alone be profitable

  • @venomtailOG
    @venomtailOG Před rokem +25

    TCL keeps getting more and more appealing. I think this could be a great choice if thr the price is right.

    • @michael-4k4000
      @michael-4k4000 Před rokem +4

      TCL is a poor mans version of a rich mans 98" tv with 5,000 nits..... yet there is no rich mans 5,000 nit TV. So TCL is the rich mans version of a 5,000 nit tv.... GO TCL.

    • @TheRedRaven_
      @TheRedRaven_ Před 11 měsíci

      TCL had been killing it for years, I have two of their tv's from 5-3 years ago and they're still working great, looking great. I will upgrade soon though because I usually do after 5-6 years or so with my TV's. Great company in all honesty.

  • @nicholas866
    @nicholas866 Před rokem +14

    did the 5000 nits give you a tan?

  • @Kubose
    @Kubose Před rokem +53

    Bro I get blinded when there's quick flashes on shows with an LG C1, and that's only like 700 nits on a 10% window. 5000 nits would blow my face off. I want it.

    • @Jmcinally94
      @Jmcinally94 Před rokem +9

      You only get to enjoy that experience once though 🦯🕶️

    • @darkl3ad3r
      @darkl3ad3r Před rokem +14

      Step outside your house. Do your eyes get blown off your face? People who sit in pitch black caves with their OLED TVs set to 100 nits brightness aren't doing their eyes any favors. Ironically, having a full brightness range HDR display like this TV will be better for your eyes than your weak OLED setup. It's a more natural handling of light than your mole man cave setup. People who reviewed super bright HDR monitors agreed on this finding anecdotally, saying it felt more comfortable on their eyes than sub 300 nit displays in the dark.

    • @MasterMark5
      @MasterMark5 Před rokem +3

      ​@@darkl3ad3rNow we just need OLEDS to get up to 5000 nits and we get the best of both worlds

    • @boterhammetpindakaashagelslag
      @boterhammetpindakaashagelslag Před rokem +8

      ​@@darkl3ad3rwhat a load of bs 😂

    • @bitsbobs8158
      @bitsbobs8158 Před rokem +1

      ​@@MasterMark5Never happening. One of the reasons OLED aren't bright is because they are organic material that degrades. Samsung pushed up the brightness of OLED to 1000 Nits and they are more susceptible to burn in and will degrade quicker than other OLEDs. Micro LED (Not Mini LED) is the best of both worlds. Micro LED is all the benefits of OLED and LED combined.

  • @HolyRamanRajya
    @HolyRamanRajya Před rokem +11

    5k nits shouldn't the TV then also come with a 12bit panel? I remember reading 10bit is only discernible from 1.5k-4k

    • @andyb9664
      @andyb9664 Před rokem +7

      Good point, that's why prob panels and 4k movies are calibrated for 4000 max.

  • @AP-hn8wd
    @AP-hn8wd Před rokem +31

    The Cillian Murphy put on the goggles to watch the Trinity Test (nuke) Oppenheimer meme comes to mind when I think of 5000 nits on a TV 😂😂

    • @briantanner5478
      @briantanner5478 Před rokem

      Funny the reference to Meta "Starburst" in another comment.
      Meta "Starburst" 20,000 nits.
      Teller "Sundial" 10 gigatons.

  • @sirjonsmithiii992
    @sirjonsmithiii992 Před rokem +5

    Used to really focus on nits (2k was my top), but I have noticed a bigger differnce/improvement with true blacks/oled.

  • @98ws6m6cvert
    @98ws6m6cvert Před rokem +20

    All these zone counts are reminding me of the vizio R series. Was the first to have a crazy amount of zones(400). It was super expensive and the implementation was terrible. End of the day its not how many zones you have, but the algorithm used to control them. So i have doubts TCL can pull this off. Sony, Panasonic and samsung seem to have superiority in that aspect.

    • @AkasagiPhan
      @AkasagiPhan Před rokem +4

      Granted Sony has an extremely good algorithm but you can only get so far with software until you hit the hardware’s physical limitation. On the other hand bad algorithm can be patched via software update

    • @Supperconductor
      @Supperconductor Před rokem +5

      @@AkasagiPhan If the internal hardware can even support a more advanced algorithm. I'm a fan of TCL entry level TVs, they can be tweaked to look quite good. IMHO they fall short compared to the mainstream brands at the high end. TCL will force all makers to get cheaper and better, that's the important thing.

    • @mateuszptaszynski5377
      @mateuszptaszynski5377 Před rokem

      Panasonic didn't even have FALD for like 7 years

    • @98ws6m6cvert
      @98ws6m6cvert Před rokem

      @mateuszptaszynski5377 not for the US, but their international offerings are top notch.

    • @AkasagiPhan
      @AkasagiPhan Před rokem +1

      @@Supperconductor I think TCL’s mid-range to high-end TVs have good enough processors. For entry-level TVs, tbh you can’t expect much from entry level TVs from any brand.
      Anyway my point is that Sony is selling TVs that have less than 500 local dimming zone for a mid-range price and they try to make up for it using algorithm. But in the end the zone count is still less than 500 and if other TVs in the same price range with higher zone count manage to improve their algorithm via software update then less zone count becomes a disadvantage that cannot be fixed because it is a physical limitation

  • @dancroft8387
    @dancroft8387 Před rokem +8

    Hi Vincent. Any thoughts on why manufacturers are pursuing ever smaller dimming zones via LED when a per pixel solution is already available, rather than finding a better way of driving and cooling OLED panels?

    • @chrisbradley3224
      @chrisbradley3224 Před 10 měsíci +4

      The heat is not the only problem, the emitter degrades over time no matter how much you cool the panel. OLED just can't do full scene brightness at reasonable power dissipation and degradation. They have been working very hard and this is still the best they can do.

  • @buddy305luv9
    @buddy305luv9 Před rokem +17

    5K nits. I wonder how much heat the 85-inch will output.
    This would be great for my living room.

    • @andyb9664
      @andyb9664 Před rokem +8

      Gas heating is down? No problem 😀
      My trusty Panasonic st60 plasma is like a radiator so I know what u mean 😀

    • @ryanbaker7404
      @ryanbaker7404 Před rokem +2

      I think you can qualify for an energy tax credit in the cold, Nordic countries... 🤔🤣

    • @swardmusic
      @swardmusic Před rokem

      Get a plasma

  • @vladdx
    @vladdx Před rokem +15

    Until we get 4000 nits or more on a 50% window at least, TVs still won't be able to take full advantage of the 4000 nits standard

  • @Hunspikey75
    @Hunspikey75 Před 11 měsíci +1

    This TV arrives to Hungary tomorrow. 3 units from the 85" and 1 from the 98". Prices are also available, 6000 EUR for the smaller and 10.800EUR for the 98". This includes the Hungarian VAT which is the highest in the universe: 27%.

  • @WildReefer
    @WildReefer Před rokem +22

    Sounds like TCL has applied the concept of LG's MLA OLED's to their own LCD's.
    I am interested to see what impact this tech will have on the viewing angles as well. They may well be OLED-level.
    I suspect that TCL may yet prove that rumors of LCD's demise may be somewhat premature.

    • @getsideways7257
      @getsideways7257 Před rokem +1

      OLED demise sounds more plausible to me. OLED is basically modern day plasma - as soon as a marginally more decent solution is adopted, OLED is heading for the bin.

    • @michael-4k4000
      @michael-4k4000 Před rokem +1

      the only thing that is OLED level is OLED! lol

    • @getsideways7257
      @getsideways7257 Před rokem

      @@michael-4k4000 Except there's micro-LED, self-emissive quantum dots and laser retinal projectors. Granted, only micro-LED is currently available to the general public (at a cost of a sports car), but so was the case with OLED just a few years ago too.

    • @illogical1421
      @illogical1421 Před 9 měsíci

      @@getsideways7257 Can't wait to see how fast OLED dies out when Micro-LED hits the consumer market but as things are going right now Mini-LED may do the job before Micro-LEDs are out for real lol

  • @badpuppy3
    @badpuppy3 Před rokem +5

    I hope we can soon move from measuring dimming "zones" to measuring dimming "resolution"? 5184 dimming zones is so hard to quantify. But by my calculations, that's a LED backlight resolution of 96 x 54, which is still pretty low. If they can get that resolution up to 720p, it would be virtually indistinguishable from OLED, and it would be potential cost benefit over getting the LED's tiny enough to go full MicroLED with 4K or 8K direct view LED resolution.

    • @blackcaesar8387
      @blackcaesar8387 Před rokem

      when you put it like that, it does highlight how inferior local dimming is to OLED. My 85 inch qm8 would be ~64 x 36 (2304) zones, which comes to just over an inch per zone...which is actually not bad now that I think of it.

    • @badpuppy3
      @badpuppy3 Před rokem

      @@blackcaesar8387 What's impressive is how good the TV's look with the current low dimming resolution. That's why I think 720p would be tops of what you'd need for the backlight.

    • @hellterminator
      @hellterminator Před rokem

      For what it's worth, the zones are often not square, so it could also easily be 81*64 or even 72*72.

    • @badpuppy3
      @badpuppy3 Před rokem

      @@hellterminator They are square I tell you! They are square!!!!! 😭

    • @heroninja1125
      @heroninja1125 Před 10 měsíci +2

      well for comparison, a 720p dimming zone setup would be 921,000 dimming zones.

  • @dsdddsd4543we
    @dsdddsd4543we Před rokem +3

    I use a SMALLHD monitor for video work and it hits 1500 Nits. It is bright in and gets hot to the touch.
    If we need get to 5000 Nits TV sets, the whole TV will need to be aluminum with active cooling.
    A sustained brightness of 5000 Nits will be insane.

  • @BriBCG
    @BriBCG Před rokem +5

    I don't think simply measuring the brightness outside and comparing it to the TV's brightness really gives the complete picture. I can be outside all day in blaring sunlight and suffer absolutely no ill effects, but if I turn my 1000nit OLED to full brightness in a reasonably lit room with bias lighting my eyes will be screaming for mercy in minutes.

    • @nerdstrangler4804
      @nerdstrangler4804 Před rokem +1

      Yea its because our iris restricts the amount of light that enters our eyes. When you blast them with more light they just respond by letting less light in. Which is why a super bright TV for indoor use seems pretty pointless. As your eyes will simply reduce the brightness of the picture for you.
      Or if there is a rapid transition from a dark scene to a bright scene and they don't have time to adjust, its just gonna hurt like crap.

    • @MrHallonz
      @MrHallonz Před rokem +2

      This is because of contrast. Vincent measured an object outside to be 3000nits, compared to the another object which was like 500nit. That’s a contrast ratio of a mere 6:1. Of course the eyes will not strain from that. Looking at your OLED with plain old SDR at the reference 120nits in a relatively dark room will strain your eyes much more…because of contrast. HDR will be impactful not because of peak brightness alone but because of contrast. Vincent sort of touches on it but this ”boring” fact doesn’t help sell new TVs….

  • @jamescampbell8482
    @jamescampbell8482 Před rokem +19

    The higher they can take the nits the better. The average dot from an electron beam on a CRT was way brighter than 5000 nits, so the higher LCDs can get the happier I will be.
    I think we need 6000 on a 3% window to be able to give an LCD 1 ms of persistence with 100 Nits of full screen brightness. (NTSC standard spec) So I say bring on the brightness

    • @techsamurai11
      @techsamurai11 Před rokem +2

      I think if TV manufacturers make 5,000 nit TVs and you can't control the brightness with a light sensor or brightness volume control, 99.9999% of owners would be very unhappy with that TV.
      I was watching yesterday a review of how the light sensor on the QN90b reduces the brightness to 200 nits where it should control it based on ambient light and go from 200-1,000 nits depending on your indoor light.
      Watching 1,000 nits in the dark or twilight or on a cloudy day is a joke. It turns your QN90b or G3 into the crappiest, most unenjoyable TV of all time as you scramble to balance the light.
      This is why I don't understand why reviewers don't use the light sensor and don't review them to force manufacturers to make sure that we can enjoy our TV to the maximum. The TV should adapt its picture to the environment to maintain brightness balance and accuracy at all times.

    • @SAIIIURAI
      @SAIIIURAI Před rokem +6

      @@techsamurai11 What in gods name are you talking about mate!? A light sensor just makes a already not bright enough Tv even dimmer by measuring ambient light and only benefit is to save bit energy!
      But why should i use it when my Tv's barely max 800nits is just SO not enough already for a good HDR impact EVEN in a pitch black room! That light sensor can't make it brighter! So what in bushidos name do you mean!? Do i miss understand something!?

    • @neondemon5137
      @neondemon5137 Před rokem +4

      ​@@techsamurai11Imagine letting your TV decide the brightness for you... 😂

    • @shueibdahir
      @shueibdahir Před rokem +1

      @@techsamurai11I'm 100% sure you haven't experienced 1000nits yet. I have a calman calibrated samsung s95b which reaches 940nits at it's most color accurate picture profile and even more if i set it to dynamic (that profile wasn't calibrated)
      It's absolutely blinding watching a hdr movie on that. I can't even imagine watching a 4000 nits screen. Thats crazy

    • @techsamurai11
      @techsamurai11 Před rokem +1

      @@SAIIIURAI That's not how it works. Sounds to me like your TV is crushing blacks in HDR and it has a low APL. If I leave my TV in full brightness, it's uncomfortable.

  • @valueofnothing2487
    @valueofnothing2487 Před rokem +74

    The problem with good, reasonably priced modern TVs is stutter, not brightness.
    And upscaling and quality control in the case of TCL.

    • @ThePipojp
      @ThePipojp Před rokem +11

      Plus their dimming algorithm sucks

    • @michaelangst6078
      @michaelangst6078 Před rokem +6

      Sony's upscaling is pretty overrated. Soft material doesn't look sharp and crisp like other comments will say.

    • @micker9830
      @micker9830 Před rokem +6

      If you have to upscale, then you are watching content that isn't meant to look great. Also, I have owned many many many TVs and I don't see a difference in stutter in any of them. Maybe I'm not sensitive to it, but it's a non factor to me. Now if the quality control and the backlight control suck, that is a different story.

    • @deanwilliams433
      @deanwilliams433 Před rokem +1

      @@ThePipojp Not true on the QM8 or Q7

    • @djayjp
      @djayjp Před rokem +1

      Stutter...?

  • @thatdrh
    @thatdrh Před rokem +12

    All this popularity talk… I can’t think of one person that I know that owns a TCL. we might all be living in the past. I’m glad these companies are always moving forward. Also glad Vincent decided to go with that picture when he made the comment, “two heads are better than one”. It’s the details that matter here.
    Keep up the good work

    • @guguigugu
      @guguigugu Před rokem +2

      TCL is popular in Europe

    • @thatdrh
      @thatdrh Před rokem

      @@guguigugu that’s was going to be my next question or googling.

    • @mrsuri33
      @mrsuri33 Před rokem

      @@guguigugu not in holland i know only one store where they sell it here

    • @epicsaves5644
      @epicsaves5644 Před rokem +2

      There is a world outside of USA. Or do you still think America is 99% of it?

    • @thatdrh
      @thatdrh Před rokem

      @@epicsaves5644 and this is what you took from that? Typical comment from you. Keep up the great work.

  • @avnut5517
    @avnut5517 Před rokem +27

    5000 nits is for outdoor displays.
    I have had them on indoors during testing. It is overwhelming.

    • @FuIIDiveVR
      @FuIIDiveVR Před rokem +11

      5000 nits for hdr, not sdr full field.

    • @mannotwiththeplan
      @mannotwiththeplan Před rokem

      yeah, no way I'll be watching any TV at 5000 nits inside -- even for HDR, it's too bright. This is a pointless number -- better contrast is what's important at some point (before hitting 5000 nits I think).

  • @ebarbie5016
    @ebarbie5016 Před 9 měsíci +4

    What good is this if their processor is cr@p? Even the 3rd gen processor is nowhere near a 1st gen Sony XR processor.

  • @bushgreen260
    @bushgreen260 Před rokem +10

    *How many dimming zones does the 85" version have?*

  • @isarafan
    @isarafan Před rokem +2

    Did TCL ever fix the ghosting artifacts on their panel and crush of shadow detail? I can hardly stand watching my TCL 6 due to these issues.

  • @hbjigcc
    @hbjigcc Před rokem +2

    I really appreciate TCL doesn't ride the wave of 8k, not even on 100+ inches. This choice has scientific basis since the viewing angle you would need to spot the difference between 4k and 8k is incompatibile with a reasonable viewing distance.

  • @C0BEX
    @C0BEX Před rokem +5

    Wonder how they improved the C series from last year. The X is nice tech showcase, but smallest being 85" is probably not practical for most people.

    • @waynemifsud3587
      @waynemifsud3587 Před rokem

      It'll be nice toseeifwegwtthem here down under in Australia, I'll be in the hunt for a 85inch

  • @jackw9568
    @jackw9568 Před rokem +16

    Mini LED doesn't always improve uniformity. As you found out in your recent Hisense U8K review, it can be a challenge to brightness match more LEDs compared to the smaller count on conventional FALD LCDs. Larger number of dimming zones can also be counter productive without enough processing power and high quality algorithm to drive them. You can end up with worse results than the lower dimming zone Sony x95L you reviewed. Hopefully TCL also keeps improving on the dimming accuracy of their TVs to stay closer to the source material.

    • @vnitto
      @vnitto Před rokem +3

      I think Vincent might know a little more, just a hunch

    • @DarrenKrusi
      @DarrenKrusi Před rokem +4

      He's pretty much reciting TCL's presentation while inserting his thoughts but isn't giving anything away until he gets his hands on it and reviews. We'll have to wait and see how well they've implemented their control.

    • @chrisbradley3224
      @chrisbradley3224 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Actually, as you increase dimming zones it should be much easier to design the algorithm. In fact, if you had one LED per pixel, there is no longer a need for an algorithm. You would just feed the backlight unit with a grayscale video signal and it would match perfectly. The problem is that it costs a lot of money to do it correctly and TVs must be cheap.

  • @guyinoakland
    @guyinoakland Před rokem +3

    Sir, we are all looking forward to your full review of the X955, or what may be called the X11G in other countries? Other than brightness, I wonder how detailed it will be as compared to an LG 77" G3 or Sony's 77" 80L in film maker mode? Videophiles are eager to know. Thank you for your wonderful videos!

  • @RPRsChannel
    @RPRsChannel Před rokem +1

    *_115" !!!_*
    *_When is that for sale??!!_*

  • @trevhib
    @trevhib Před rokem +5

    What is the difference in spec between the TCL C955 and the TCL QM8?

    • @JazJonFL
      @JazJonFL Před rokem +1

      I hope they put sARC back on an HDMI 2.1 port instead of a 2.0 port Like the QM8 has.
      My 98R754 (eARC on 2.1) is working great with my receiver

  • @marcuszettergren8885
    @marcuszettergren8885 Před rokem +2

    Now if they could spend some of that growth into a decent distribution upgrade in EU and the Nordics, i'd be glad. It really doesn't matter how bright or fast their tv's are if you simply can't buy one.

  • @pritim2009
    @pritim2009 Před rokem +1

    it is very important to see Vincents face to get a sense of this tv

  • @simon3461
    @simon3461 Před rokem +1

    5000 zones, 5000 nits, 5000 $ - seems to be easy to remember !

  • @tonyorob
    @tonyorob Před rokem +1

    Hisense U8K was initially supposed to have built in Atmos speakers too but when it hit the market the tv didn't have that feature. 🤔

  • @ModeMan101
    @ModeMan101 Před rokem

    0:40 Naughty boy, Vincent! 🤣(Benny Hill salute)

  • @leon94m
    @leon94m Před rokem +1

    Is TCL X955 12bit native color depth?

  • @ThunderStruckMTB
    @ThunderStruckMTB Před rokem +1

    Why isn't motion put at the number 1 thing that TVs need to improve on? I'm 55 and I never had to worry about stutter and SOE on my CRT TV. Every reviewer wants to go on about brightness and color, but then they bury motion handling at the end of the review.

  • @tassicek1
    @tassicek1 Před rokem +1

    Hi Vincent, thank you for this video. What do you think about Hisense UXK. Is here some chance for test this Hisense TV? Thank you very much.

  • @I-PixALbI4-I
    @I-PixALbI4-I Před rokem +2

    Larger Screen = More LEDs and thats all!
    I wanna more LEDs per inch!!!

  • @Da-iken
    @Da-iken Před rokem +22

    Brightness is a good thing, don´t get me wrong. But i would be worried about the lifespan of the TV and in general how it performs. If the Tone Mapping is good, a 1000+ - Nits TV is enough for me (like on Panasonic TVs) in a normal lit room. Specially in a dark room (if it is not pixel level control) it can be a mess for our eyes. Speaking about QN90A with way too bright HDR scenes in my case. And it is not nearly as bright. That´s only my opinion.

    • @LP-mh6ri
      @LP-mh6ri Před rokem

      When I went from a worn decade old budget tv to a light blasting top of the line samsung (q9fn) for HDR gaming and movies in a dark room, it did not take long before I had spells of migraine where I would actually loose part of my field of vision. ( I could not see my hand if I held it up in straight in front of me).
      Went to a eye specialist who did a thorough eye checkup, he found nothing wrong with them.
      Installed a led strip on the wall behind the tv for ambient light.
      No eye migraines or loss of vision since.
      Though I probably spend more time in front is said screen than the average person so might not be an issue for normal usage.

    • @ThePipojp
      @ThePipojp Před rokem +3

      It's not about what is visible in a bright room, It's about matching Reference monitors

    • @Da-iken
      @Da-iken Před rokem +7

      It is more than that. If you have to use bias light, your pupils are open and you can´t see the dark definition and details like before. But you need it, to handle very bright lights out of dark without eye strain (because if your pupils are wide open, it will hurt when very bright light comes into it out of nothing.
      That means
      1. the director has to manage smooth transitions (which is not the case in many scenes), but that would work
      2. or u have to use bias light, but that would take some quality from very dark scenes to your eyes.
      3. it is better to not go too bright in a cinema room. You can´t compare nature with a dark room. Because when you are outdoor your pupils are very small if it is bright. So it is a different scenerio. Vincent is not wrong, but on the other hand it is a fact, that our eyes adapt to the ambient light. And because of that, it is not that easy to translate that on a TV screen at home. Specially, because it can change from a dark scene to a bright. The question is, is it really needed? I don´t think so, because of that. At the end it is not reality.@@ThePipojp

    • @Da-iken
      @Da-iken Před rokem

      Best way is to get the paperwhite more accurate and calibrate the TV of costs of peak brightness, That´s what i did. New Samsung have static Tone mapping, but on older u have to reduce contrast in HDR (and lowering st2084 on 2021 / 22 TVs) to find a better middle way@@LP-mh6ri

    • @techsamurai11
      @techsamurai11 Před rokem +2

      well, if the light sensor worked, you could use it to have adaptive HDR but it's broken on Samsungs. How awesome would it be if the TV could automatically adjust peak brightness from 1,000 to 500 nits in the twilight or 400 nits at night? When it gets cloudy, it drops to 650, when the clouds clear, it jumps to 1,000.
      Isn't that what the light sensor should be doing???

  • @richardwhittaker2879
    @richardwhittaker2879 Před rokem +2

    This has similar specs to a reference monitor Flanders Scientific was going to release.
    It never came out though due to how difficult it was to get so many zones and so much brightness accurate.
    I am wondering if this company has added a bit of extra magic to it and is now releasing it.

  • @ItsNotAProblem
    @ItsNotAProblem Před rokem +1

    Imagine watching a youtube video in hdr and suddenly you lose your eyesight because the editor felt silly 😜

  • @Aditya_Kumar7622
    @Aditya_Kumar7622 Před rokem +2

    Hopefully they will launch same model this time in the Uk without compromising any spec.

  • @loki76
    @loki76 Před rokem +2

    If available in near future in your area. Will you be reviewing "Sharp Aquos XLED" TVs? The MiniLEDs with 2160 zones on 65" etc.

  • @kazioo2
    @kazioo2 Před rokem +55

    Fun fact: Meta made a prototype VR headset with 20,000 nits called "Starburst". People who demoed it were very impressed.

    • @JonPais
      @JonPais Před rokem +13

      Fun fact: little of that 20k nits actually reaches the viewer's eyeballs, whereas all of the 5,000 nit goodness of the TCL TV does.

    • @Wobbothe3rd
      @Wobbothe3rd Před rokem +26

      ​@@JonPaisfun fact: when walking outside on a sunny day more than 20K nits hits your eyes from light colored concrete. The glint of the sun off a black colored car could be a million nits. Brightness is relative to what's around you, a theater screen is on average less than 150 nits over the course of an average film.

    • @JonPais
      @JonPais Před rokem +10

      @@Wobbothe3rd The brightness of a traditional movie theater maxes out at 48 nits, average picture level is less than half that give or take.

    • @Eliteownage
      @Eliteownage Před rokem +12

      @@JonPais No it was real 20k nits peak to eyeballs. They literally used high beams from a car starting at way higher than 20k nits, and blasted it through the optics and LCD layers and the peak brightness coming through was 20k.

    • @boterhammetpindakaashagelslag
      @boterhammetpindakaashagelslag Před rokem +7

      They are also very happy to now be accompanied by a labrador, I reckon 😂

  • @ThePipojp
    @ThePipojp Před rokem +3

    8:05 500 zones is the minimum requirement for them, Sony and Samsung can get away with fewer dimming zones because their dimming algorith isn't trash like TCL's. Seriously, the X95L has fewer than 500 zones. Anyone here doubts It still performs better than this 500+ TCL will?

    • @deanwilliams433
      @deanwilliams433 Před rokem +4

      So far no Sony LCD TV matches the blooming control of the QM8. Its a trade off and Sony needs to step-up on the hardware zone count, especially at the premium prices they charge.

    • @techsamurai11
      @techsamurai11 Před rokem

      @@deanwilliams433 i don't know.... the X95L with 480 zones seemed to outperform the Qn95C with 1300+ zones, the U8k with 1,000, and the C845 with 500+. Actually, the only TV that came closer was the X90L with 80 dimming zones in Vincent's video. I think the QM8 has a little bit more blooming control than the X90L but the X90L is almost as good with 80 zones.

    • @deanwilliams433
      @deanwilliams433 Před rokem

      @@techsamurai11 I own the QM8 and had Sony and Samsung high end models. QM8 is incredible for the price. Sony needs to step up on the mini-LED blooming control. I don't care for upscaling performance as that is handled by my apple tv and Nvidia shield.

    • @techsamurai11
      @techsamurai11 Před rokem

      @@deanwilliams433 have you seen Fomo's comparison and Vincent's side-bysides of the 95L and 90L

  • @J0stAn0therJ0hn
    @J0stAn0therJ0hn Před rokem +47

    I dont know if I want to get to the point of having to wear sunglasses while watching a movie on my tv.😎

    • @sakracliche
      @sakracliche Před rokem +11

      you didnt watch the whole video did you

    • @Wobbothe3rd
      @Wobbothe3rd Před rokem +4

      Outside, even on a cloudy day can be a million nits hitting your eyes, no TV is actually going to hurt you, lol.

    • @thewhofan8020
      @thewhofan8020 Před rokem +6

      ​@@Wobbothe3rdit's stupid when people compare light from TV (small single source of light) to outdoors.
      Your eyes adapt to day time and then adapt to night over a long period of time. We never see both extremes straight after each other like we do when viewing films on TV. If the sun switched off and on, pretty sure you would go blind.

    • @InnuendoXP
      @InnuendoXP Před rokem +1

      Just wait for the SOLED TVs where they divert pure solar energy from a collector on your roof & through fiber-optics, project that light through individual pixels with a peak brightness of whatever the weather is like outside 😎

    • @haukikannel
      @haukikannel Před rokem +1

      I want!
      If I am watching the Lawrence of Aerabian, I want to wear sun classes when they go over the deadly desert!
      But 5000 nits is not even close to brightnes where you need sunclasses! In here in clody day… Flovers were over 5000 nits, not even near what you would get in desert…

  • @sirqdoled1203
    @sirqdoled1203 Před rokem +1

    Still enjoying my 85 inch TCL 845 after watching your review😉

    • @aviadcohen291
      @aviadcohen291 Před rokem

      I just purchased it 2 days ago (arriving next week) and now I think maybe I did wrong for not waiting?

  • @4KGamingSMT
    @4KGamingSMT Před rokem +2

    I would be interested in a detailed review of this new TCL vs the QDOLEDs also

  • @haloharry97
    @haloharry97 Před rokem

    Am happy with my old TV and qd-oled monitor untel 10k nits at constant full screen is achieved.
    Long way to go .

  • @bmozumder
    @bmozumder Před rokem

    Wait a 115" TV?!? Finally am I going to be able to replace my projector with a flat panel?? Where can we get that?

  • @screwydrewy7027
    @screwydrewy7027 Před rokem +1

    When will these release and are they coming to the USA market ?

  • @AffinityPhoto
    @AffinityPhoto Před rokem

    They can Jack the zones for better blooming control and contrast but will they improve the off-axis saturation and contrast? And, why do $2500+ TVs have sound. Drives the R&D and parts costs up plus adds weight and bulk to the units. You drop that kind of money you are using a soundbar at minimum. I’m thinking about pairing the 85” version with the Nakamichi Dragon. 🐉

  • @s9209122222
    @s9209122222 Před rokem +1

    Why not 65" 75" with 5000nits?

    • @haukikannel
      @haukikannel Před rokem

      Not small enough leds… Not enough room /surface to reduce the heat…

  • @michael-4k4000
    @michael-4k4000 Před rokem

    This, this could be the GAME CHANGER I have been waiting for! I need all 5,000 NITS! already preordered 3 of these babies...... Sony wake up, you need to catch up.......

  • @Miguel_Sanchez69
    @Miguel_Sanchez69 Před rokem +1

    Nice commercial for TCL (again). How much did they pay you?

    • @hdtvtest
      @hdtvtest  Před rokem +2

      As stated in the CZcams description, the "Includes Paid Promotion" message in this video refers to the sponsorship by TCL.

    • @MasterMark5
      @MasterMark5 Před rokem

      ​@@hdtvtestCongrats on the TCL sponsor, thanks for making content Vincent you are the best TV channel on CZcams

    • @Miguel_Sanchez69
      @Miguel_Sanchez69 Před rokem

      @@hdtvtest Thanks for replying. For the sake of transparency, it might be better to just make that clearer in the video. Otherwise, i'm a big fan of the channel and thanks for the excellent tests.

  • @sparkfire1223
    @sparkfire1223 Před rokem +1

    Will this set come in at 115"? In the us?

  • @jrerobert
    @jrerobert Před rokem

    Would the QM8, along with an Apple TV device to hopefully with the tv processing issues, be a better option than the X90L? Considering the almost $1500 price hike to the 85" X93L.

  • @yuchuanwang9362
    @yuchuanwang9362 Před rokem

    In fact, it looks like the TCL x11G, is only released in China。which is odd since it seems like no manufacturers ever tell you the specs are only on their biggest most expensive models, in this case only on the 98 inch.

  •  Před rokem

    I’m torn, mr. Teoh. I’m planning to retire my old KS8000 for casual gaming. I love his HDR all this years but that video about OLED vs LED that LG sponsored in this channel made me doubt. Should I go with mini led for brightness? Or should I go with QD-OLED for the fast response changing image? And doesn’t OLED has less motion resolution? Does that mean that the 4K image the console send got scaled down to 600 lines? Like a downgrade.

  • @joxyn
    @joxyn Před rokem +2

    Im a bit confused, they recently released QM8 (which should be C845 in EU) and now they are launching another line up? What's the difference beetween C845 and C805 or C755?

    • @Flakemonkey
      @Flakemonkey Před rokem +4

      Worst part is they ship good products to US and inferior product else where since well most of the reviewers are from there , also no reviewer test for quality control or how long the unit will last . This is all just paid marketing at this point .

    • @vladdx
      @vladdx Před rokem +1

      Not quite, the equivalent of QM8 in Europe is C945 which has yet to be released later in 2023

    • @joxyn
      @joxyn Před rokem

      @@vladdx sound great, but u agree all this names are misleading?

    • @dalimanazario9204
      @dalimanazario9204 Před rokem

      They put c955 instead of c945

    • @vladdx
      @vladdx Před rokem

      @@dalimanazario9204 Doubt it, 955 is most likely appearing in 2024 in Europe

  • @mauriciosalazar2289
    @mauriciosalazar2289 Před 5 měsíci

    Do we really need that much? This would require for us to use multiple presets for each time of the day since I fwll 1500 nits blind me on fully dark rooms

  • @guguigugu
    @guguigugu Před rokem

    when are we getting 8294400 local dimming zones?

  • @bobmorane7329
    @bobmorane7329 Před rokem

    where is marek, need a interview asap ^^
    so i understood that c845 is different from qm8 (us)

  • @Ag89q43G0HyA
    @Ag89q43G0HyA Před rokem

    they need more local dimming and really fix the delay, i always notice the lag in the backlight on gunshots and many bright sudden things on the videos. Also forget about sky scenes, they are just trash on back light lcds. I dont get it why companies does not invest on microled or new oled panels.

  • @nuclearcrypto7743
    @nuclearcrypto7743 Před rokem +1

    Is this coming to the USA?

  • @herbert_wells
    @herbert_wells Před 11 měsíci

    Hello. I see that the European TCL X955 uses Google TV. What operating system does the Chinese TCLX11G use?

  • @RedLeo-pf9yo
    @RedLeo-pf9yo Před rokem

    MIND BLOWN !!!!!!

  • @danikadani6218
    @danikadani6218 Před 4 měsíci

    When we could see a full review of this tv?

  • @nicolasumi
    @nicolasumi Před rokem +1

    And for the SOC ? Pentonic 700/1000 for all ?

  • @Laurie_H
    @Laurie_H Před rokem

    Am I the only once that laughs everytime when I hear Vincent say, 10:01 10:06 10:14 "short show" (short throw) 🤣

  • @medovk
    @medovk Před rokem

    all that sounds nice, but how is all that working in game mode? are all zones active? is there full resolution 4k120?

  • @ivana6141
    @ivana6141 Před rokem

    Still waiting for previous gen in 98 inch to be available in Australia. Was going to get a projector but 98 tv beats most projectors.

  • @christianb449
    @christianb449 Před rokem

    Hope to See soon and what About the dimming Zones at the 85. 5000 at 115 Model ?!

  • @theransomgamer
    @theransomgamer Před rokem

    Wondering what will be the power consumption with 5000 dimingzones

  • @phynixz7359
    @phynixz7359 Před 7 měsíci

    When is this television available in Germany?

  • @Quickloaded
    @Quickloaded Před rokem

    I'm looking forward to your review when you get your hands one of these beauties. I'm still rocking and LG C9 65 inch and will likely not replace it until some kind of new technology is introduced that would be enticing. E.g. looking glass technology but at the size of a TV.

  • @BassamAhmed-ei6du
    @BassamAhmed-ei6du Před rokem

    Hello, regarding TCL C845, do you recommend it over Sony X90L for gaming on PS5 ?

  • @emilianomontanari283
    @emilianomontanari283 Před 11 měsíci

    i have just bought a 85QN90C samsung but this TCL seems better by far…. my only doubt is the upscaling…. why they don’t reach Sony and Samsung processors?

  • @starc0w
    @starc0w Před rokem

    Theo, we need an update of Samsungs MicroLED Tech!

  • @jesus1021
    @jesus1021 Před 11 měsíci

    The TCL X955 Mini LED TV, how much would the 75" would be though, sounds like it will be between 3 to 4k. Considering that 75" now cost like $1200.

  • @99tophunter
    @99tophunter Před rokem

    I saw a video from Vincent about Sony miniled provides more accurate picture than other brands like TCL or Hisense with much less zones, and claimed that sony's algorism tramples the rest, it appears the video has been deleted. In a recent review on bilibili, the reviewer made a very similar test, the FFalcon R675C achieved similar result (much more accurate picture) compared to the higher end TCL Q10G pro. I can't help thinking if FFalcon can do also do it, might not be as simple as just algorism. Would love for to comment on this.

  • @fahdhasnain979
    @fahdhasnain979 Před 9 měsíci

    What's the main difference between tcl c645 and c745.
    And plz suggest me any good budget 55" tv that have better display and aound.

  • @agogo8861
    @agogo8861 Před rokem

    i remember TCL was a joke of a product when it came out, ppl would call and complain severely. seems like they are doing good top end product.

  • @GAS1964
    @GAS1964 Před rokem

    Hi this TCL x955 is the same like Chinese top model X11g?

  • @alexfoxpoker
    @alexfoxpoker Před rokem

    I want a TV with a large diagonal, more than 80', the more the better, well, yes, up to about $ 4000-5000
    Of course, there the matrix and filling will be worse than in premium TVs of a smaller diagonal. Question. Does it make sense to splurge on a premium TV of the same size, if I will watch 90% of CZcams on it, and besides, from an external media player (bypassing the improvers built in the TV). For example, if you take the 85' Sony x90l x93l x95l, will there be a noticeable difference when watching CZcams videos on them, which are broadcast directly from the AppleTV set-top box?
    And if you turn off all the improvers on the TV? More should depend on the matrix. The question is, are x90l and x95l the same matrices or not, or are only the processors different?

  • @E96
    @E96 Před rokem +1

    When will you review it?

  • @dalimanazario9204
    @dalimanazario9204 Před rokem

    Hello Mr, could u please tell us who's best the c935 or the c955. Considering that the c935was the flagship of last year tcl tv with the od5 tech!!
    Pleas a helping answer im about buying one

  • @STEELFOX2000
    @STEELFOX2000 Před rokem

    I call this PEAK BLINDNESS!!!!

  • @flaw3dgenius222
    @flaw3dgenius222 Před rokem

    Will it come to the UK though? The good TCL TV the QM8 has not made it over!

  • @sanderaltamirano8412
    @sanderaltamirano8412 Před rokem

    When is this going to be released?

  • @Villano884
    @Villano884 Před rokem

    It should be interesting a TCL Láser protector UST, we already have one by Hisense, Samsung, LG, etc. It Could be amazing sure

  • @shubzyray8661
    @shubzyray8661 Před rokem

    I need to see a comparison with this, lg c3, and samsung offering so i can decide which one to get for 2.1 gaming

  • @WilliamDeanPlumbing
    @WilliamDeanPlumbing Před rokem +1

    LOVE my Z9g! 🎉

  • @kornmc
    @kornmc Před rokem

    Even TCL official ads are shorter

  • @matthiasknutzen6061
    @matthiasknutzen6061 Před měsícem

    Is that green eye scene from a movie?

  • @MrFaleh1129
    @MrFaleh1129 Před rokem

    So which is better to get the TCL X955 or the S95C from Samsung ?

  • @wendysburgers4326
    @wendysburgers4326 Před rokem

    Me patiently waiting for Micro LED to be fully developed and can hit this Bright.

  • @sebastiankniaz5156
    @sebastiankniaz5156 Před rokem

    When new MiniLed from Philips?

  • @Roxann3Live
    @Roxann3Live Před rokem

    Im also a promoter in TCL from india and i see the TCL is going to upwards day by day in india and they also beat sony