“The Designs of Zenless Zone Zero Are Lackluster”
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- čas přidán 25. 06. 2024
- I think ZZZ has some pretty solid character designs and I love that they are very unique as well. Let me know how you feel in the comments!
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For the people who are gonna get angry and not watch video after seeing the title. Just know I’m literally praising the game, the title is just quoting what others have said online
Yeah that's what quotes are for...
It's too easy to misunderstand this title. Even I plan to come here just like them to click "dislike". Even though I watched the video and changed my mind, I don't think everyone would do it. So it's not a good title. It can lead to unnecessary misunderstandings.
i think ZZZ's character designs are noticebly distinct from mihoyo's other titles, and it feels almost experimental, but distinct doesn't mean bad. i reckon people will get used to it, and even like it eventually.
Amen, I think people will adjust to it
The bigger problem i see here is people assuming that sexualizing characters is inherently bad to begin with.
someone finally said it, its normal for some characters to be more grown and dress differently than others. It adds to the variety.
Fucking right!
the character designs are the only reason i'm gonna even play this game lmao
Glad to hear it! Stay tuned for more ZZZ content
ZZZ design is okay have nor stared to lo g at it not ugly so thumbup from me
Same people just want the basic anime character design for every gacha games diversity in the game with the characters makes it shine out of all the gachas
Character designs being good have generally always been about personal preference, and I think ZZZ's designs have been pretty sweet so far.
I fully agree brotha
I feel part of it is due to them fully breaking away from the honkai trope design of same model re’usage, but they got a bit too far in pulling what I call a blue archive by having a lack of consistency.
Since you have humans, onis, ghost girls, full animal characters yet able to speak(bear in some kind of gi), furry anthromorph aka ‘wolf man’ and loads of the ‘animal feature types aka a shark girl and a cat girl and even what I assume Billy is either a robot or just a guy who dresses in a full body suit like he is a kamen rider.
Which including the npcs, they have youkais and robots clearly present too.
It feels like they just crammed so many things in so they can have a variety to pop out, but that kind of means a lack of anything interesting and they may just lean more into tropes to define a character then actually making them more closer to something original.
Cause I can already expect to see a red oni to go with the blue oni. Probably a tiger or dragon man, maybe a vampire waifu/husbando to join the ‘clearly based on super natural maid/butler cast.
Then they could easily throw in more additional groups to further saturate how many groups you have to pay attention to.
Which will be a headache when the only connection they have to eachother is you the player character, meaning it becomes flimsy to have all these cast of characters that likely rarely interact with eachother outside of that ‘guide’ for randomly appearing portals that serve as the combat stages.
Which at the end of the day, it’s just solo leveling, that manhua which just has randomly appearing ‘gates’ that spawn monsters that have to be destroyed by taking down the boss monster instead before it causes problems.
So really, zzz’s story design lore feels like it ripped off plenty of other anime plots. Which if I could remember the names, there was actually one about a bunch of humans serving as a task force to get super natural entities under control that are supposed to stay hidden in society.
Which how they work is being dressed up as construction workers, using anti UMA weapons in the shape of construction equipment and often use a freaking rocket launcher as the punchline gag of incapacitating these UMA trouble makers.
@@BladeSerph on the contrary, the points you listed are exactly why I think it stands out. Having such a diverse cast can do so much for your world building. Just look at Arknights, which has animal people and anthems, to reverse 1999 which has a suit of armor and a fucking apple as playable characters. It makes it feel like anything is possible in the world of their respective games, which I think is good for keeping a constant flow of fresh ideas.
As for multiple factions, I don’t think that’ll be a problem. Again looking at Arknights, that game has multiple factions as well as ongoing history and politics, yet it’s still very understandable and honestly really interesting to learn about. If their writing is good enough then it’s not something we should worry about.
@@luckystarplays1837 Diverse can be both a blessing and a curse. It mostly depends on portral handling.
Ark knights keeps things rather uniform, without pulling some extremely random additions like leaning too hard on the fictional side of things, especially since outside of a VERY few exceptions that usually fell under non-playable characters here and there, the majority of the cast are the animal ear archetype period.
Blue archive on the other hand not only does the whole range of things, but they wanna have androids and so on and every single playable character falls under an angel motif of wings+Halo but also wants nekomimi (Animal ear character or something) and moar that its just a cluster fuck of mixtures.
In ZZZ`s case its clear they are pulling the same story motif i have seen in plenty of animes where it focuses on ONE CITY and they just have all kinds of fantasy races mixed in with next to little care on it and end up getting so ridiculous on having so many that effectively over half the cast has no real overlap and just ends up with having so many being one specific exclusive case until they specifically bring out another of that character`s fantasy race, either by it being part of a story specific to them and never anything else except the very `broad` term like Yokai, Supernatural or so on. Then also have basically the entire `cannon fodder cast` either conviently fall under Delinquients, Gangs, humans or robots or following that trend so much, its clearly just a running joke of a clone factor at that point, despite having `so many dang fictional races` present in said place.
Which is another thing which is nice for Ark knights where instant of perpetually staying with the same dang cast of bad guys for years, they actually have factions too with on top of that have rather unique traits in combat to set them apart then just be another face to uppercut into a bloody pinata every second.
Its already been stated by those who DID play the beta, that the enemies are clunky and slow (Just like Genshite impact that made enemies clunky and slow as fk), Combat gets a situation of lows.
The gacha decided instead of following Honkai impact 3rd`s rate of guranteed on proc, they went with everyone`s bane of hatred: 50/50 chance, which unlike Genshite impact, wont have a open world type of content so unless its gonna be starting with ALOT of weekly currency means(which if you know Genshite impact, was never a case), then people are likely to get frustrated by it, just like how Wuthering waves had a nasty scorch meme of a certain `Tiger Boi` being landed on a fail 50/50 felt just as bad as Genshite impact QiQi Salt meme`ry.
So ultimately, once the `honeymoon` is over, with all the `achievement rewards that just flow on in` are over, then you can figure how tedious the game is, Which Wuthering waves is atleast rather quick to get done on the daily and leaves plenty of room if you wanna go peel more exploration and what not done, If ZZZ leans more into Genshite impact level of tedious daily grind, then we already know how easy that is gonna burn out people.
Which if it doesnt have much todo when your done with stamina, especially after you clear up any limited time event stuff, will also be a good way to get people bored of the game.
But never the less, i would not be amazed if people start another rage riot of whoever ends up being the QiQi of ZZZ causes quite a few people to drop the game, if it especially has nothing to act as any salt alleviation, especially those who plan to go into the game and throw money at it, no questions asked.
I love how Nicole is actually a bitchy mean girl archetype done right! When I see her looks, I can believe that's how she wants to look. The music of her trailer said it all. She's vain, pink, always posing, but also bossy and loud. Not a a flat token fap material character. I'm looking forward to learning more about her.
Okay, that aside, ZZZ has amazing character designs. Period. The style is definitely different and I get many will equate a not conventionally attractive waifu or husbando in a gacha game with bad design. BUT design and attractiveness were never supposed to be the same. It's a mistake to equate the two.
Now it's because a gacha game tries to sell their character banners. Appealing to the players tastes when it comes to looks is a proven formula. If they want to fuck it, they'll probably pay for it, even if it's pixels. It's not for nothing that you end up running into some less than classy comments or porny fanarts while looking up those games. It is what it is.
So credit given where credit is due, that's actually pretty gusty of Hoyo to decided to make such unique looking characters! I have a feeling the limited characters may not always be as out there. we'll have to wait and see, but I really hope this approach will work for them. There's every other title out there if someone just want good looking people to pull for.
Actually, it may not be my usual tastes but ZZZ is stylish as hell. It got a more clear, defined and unique identity than most other gacha, and that's why I think it looks good. The art direction is super solid. It seems lots of fun too, so I'm truly hoping for its success.
Long and based comment lol
nah
they trippin
its definitely a bias
if ZZZ came out first before genshin, people would think genshin characters are wack
its always like that lol,
True
they were already hating on the new fontaine dendro character just because it looks too simple XD
@@lechugacc3459really?? I think Emilie looks amazing
@@Yuo_theoldestchild Yeah me too, i hope she can find her niche in the game
@@lechugacc3459 I never hate on her for looking simple I dislike her character design because of how over the place it looks.
ZZZ’s character designs are pretty diverse and are individually appealing in their own unique ways. The entire game oozes charm and I cannot imagine that anybody with any amount of artistic literacy would bash on this game’s visuals
It’s sad but some people do unfortunately
@@KetteiThe7th_yep, seen it happen myself. Fortunately, the dude explained that it's not that he finds the design ugly, just that he likes a specific kind of character that is yet to show up in the roster.
I appreciate how Zenless made the characters very recognizable. Also, I am not usually drawn to modern city aesthetics, but the characters look really cool. I am still amazed that I could choose to destroy enemies with a bear!
BIG BEN LETS GOOOO
People in the internet: Omg this fictional character outfit is inaproppriate!!1
Meanwhile people irl: everyone can see my camel toe and nipples but its fine because we live in 2024 not 1724 who cares i can dress however i like
PREACH
Also another thing is that the artstyle was made to match the "90's to 2000s" with a futuristic twist from some lore reason so theres no real social media and stuff like that and to make the world feel "more connected" like when when kids would go out and explore, ect ect, that type of thing
I get massive Jet Set Radio Vines for it I’m super excited to play!
@@KetteiThe7th_ for sure for sure
Nicole style is completely logical given the style of the game. Genshin is a fantasy game and Honkai impact 3rd and star rail are cience fiction/fantasy oriented, but ZZZ went for a completely diferent influence and chose an urban, hiphop inspired look. Nicole makes total sence in that kind of enviroment. Also, while not all the desings clic with me, that doesn't mean they are bad, in fact I'm really happy mihoyo is willing to experiment with it's characters and the influences behind them. Hope the game is very succcesfull to see how far they can push the hip-hop aestetics.
I fully agree, based ass comment my friend
It's crazy to hear people say this because the aesthetics of ZZZ and the designs were the biggest reason I wanted to play the game. It's so nostalgic in a way. I always missed the more stylized and colorful aesthetics of older games
Yea it is crazy, but we gonna stand strong and make this community great!
Large boobs doesn’t necessarily mean sexulization
(The females with large boobs are well covered, except for grace but I don’t think anyone has a chest window)
Nicole probably isn’t sexualized, her outfit isn’t inappropriate (and much less inappropriate than Genshin and hsr women’s outfits)
Yes her design is perfectly fine
According to modern feminists: "Anyone hotter and more beautiful than me is sexualized and bad for women"
Meanwhile genshin community making videos and graphics about what girl have the biggest chest in the game... Those mf are down bad for anything when they are not on twitter
the overall design that character we have right now really suited with their theme.The game takes place in a "post-apocalyptic futuristic metropolis known as New Eridu" and their outfit have many similarities with survival outfit and etc. (im honestly dont know how to explain this but u got my point) Maybe future character will change their unique design from where their belong and this design can changes when they introduces us with many more locations or factions (lol so hard to explain)
Sounds right to me!
The designs are refreshing and that's what makes them the most appealing to me, especially with how expressive/animated the characters are.
Yea they’re overall great!
Yes! This type of animation and expression happands when animaters get paid well. Good on Hoyo for it.
I liked the designs when I saw first saw it. it gave me Durararara vibes and I liked that anime. Both this and project mugen has similar styles.
They do have similar vibes I agree
personally i love the character designs and also how hoyo made all of them so expressive and have their own personalities and backstory's to really build character. im honestly really excited to play with a bunch of different characters!!! im supa excited for the game tbh
Amen! Stay tuned for more zzz content!
I really hope ZZZ gets a Jet Set Radio collab in the future
WOULD BE SO PERFECT
I played the hell out of JSR on Dreamcast. The urban setting gives me that feel, the character designs feel inspired by Sushio. Who did the character designs for Kill la Kill. Or just anything from Trigger, with the fluidity of movement and the expressions.
I agree!
I agree with what you say about the variety in designs of characters in ZZZ compared to Genshin. Like Genshin for some reason is stuck with the same body types for years. (Tall men &women, medium men & women and lolis) it gets old. Like sure you can argue that not all the characters look “exactly” alike, but the designs themselves don’t save the problem exactly. So when I first saw ZZZ character designs it was literally a breath of fresh air! All the different body types and including actual furries into the game is very eye opening to see. Plus to see female characters in ZZZ not following the typical hoyoverse design in women. (Armpits out, short mid drift or showing more skin than it has to, always wearing heels) it makes me excited to see what future characters in this game will bring.
Ty for sharing this comment with me! Stay tuned for more ZZZ content
I feel like most people who say that are just looking for a specific visual style that they already know from other games.
What I do want to say though is that I'm disapponited with PubSec, cause every next character among them after Zhu Yuan has more revealing clothes that feel less connected to the faction. Ain't terrible, but I really feel like thay could go for much stronger police theming, especially with the short girl and the cat guy's riot shield, instead of just a bit of deep blue, a badge and a "PUBSEC" slapped somewhere on an otherwise really generic design.
I haven’t looked at their designs to closely yet
Each of Mihoyo's games is different, and has its own style. The only commonality is the anime style:
- _Gun Girls Z_ styles its characters more compact because of how they're displayed in the sidescrolling gameplay, but in animations they have a more standard body design. In the animations, _HI3_ 's designs are practically a continuation of this.
- _Honkai Impact 3rd_ , as a 3D action game, has a style that focuses on flashy movement, therefore the character models reflect this, especially the movement. They also allow for their character designs to be flashier and racier than in their subsequent games, due to less eyes being on this game, most likely. Recent designs like Thelema and the upcoming Songque show what the attitude is for this game's Character Design team.
- _Genshin_ , as the first real multiplatform release with an English and Korean dub, has a more generalized art style, to make it more acceptable in the international market. Even then, certain outfits ended up being further censored. It has the most middle-of-the-road character design I have seen from Mihoyo, and there are also very few different body types. The deisgners seemed to have stuck to only a few for time and costs.
- I cannot speak to the style of _Tears of Themis_ because I haven't looked at it, however there is a focus on the gentlemen that is bound to make it a different experience, on top of being styled more like a visual novel.
- Honkai: Star Rail_ puts greater variety on the character design than _Genshin_ , but adapts the _Genshin_ UI. This is not only Mihoyo hitting their stride more in the international market, but also a game created and managed by the Honkai Team, rather than the Genshin Team. Both games have distinct character designs, however the Honkai Team has more experience, and can push things further given the opportunity.
- _Zenless Zone Zero_ is all about style, refinement in appearance, animation, and variety. Even the NPCs are given more unique appearances, and there are already every type of character, from human to Oni to grizzly bears. This is also the first game managed by a new team, under a new producer. No prior experience with Mihoyo at all, yet clearly fans of their work. But, well, let's just see how they do.
amazing comment!
@@KetteiThe7th_ Thanks. They're also working on a farming game, and have started to hire for an open world MMORPG. Looks like every time they get ready to make a new game, they hire a new team to take care of it.
True
I Think this difference happens because ZZZ Team is completely NEW.
Like, they dont worked on other projects on Hoyoverse etc.
They were trying to do the caracteristic art style, and we got an "renovated' one, but this renovated art style is so refreshing too.
Props to the team
Let's see how it will go...
I love the art style and really excited for the game!
Its becouse most of the people who say these "characters are oversexualized" are from people that started playing gacha with genshin
ZZZ character designs and just overall art style is personally my favorite compared to the other hoyoverse games 😊 the way the characters are designed fits so well with the style of animation and it’s just amazing
Couldn't agree more!
@@KetteiThe7th_ AHH YOU REPLIED you’re my favorite ZZZ content creator omgg ❤️❤️
No your my favorite 😉
There was a comment on my previous video that was absurd, I was gonna share it in this video today but they deleted it after getting called out by over 10+ people LOL. I gotta remember to screenshot wild comments like that next time.
Edit: I see some people only look at the title and thumbnail and proceed to comment without watching the video. I was praising the design not bashing them, I don’t understand people on the internet
Wish I could've seen it
Ngl, I might be tripping, but in some ways it feels like hoyo retraced it's design to it's roots of GGZ, and modified that drip direction to get ZZZ's distinct designs and I'm all for it as a GGZ brainrot person XD, same as for the game overall having a somewhat "Honkai" feel and visuals (which is of course a very biased feeling, it really doesn't have to be anything like Honkai/GGZ, and I would still be interested, but I do appreciate visual and conceptual cues that are more or less easily translatable to the known and established concepts, which imo only contributes to the Hoyo cosmology).
Like, the designs feel the most similar to GGZ than any other game, with GI being full-on fantasy, HI3/HSR being much more sci-fi focused (though some HI3 skins do give off Zenless vibe, years before ZZZ was even a concept ofc), and GGZ is, while pretty sci-fi once the lore expands, is pretty grounded or "street fashion" in it's designs if that makes sense, while also allowing for flexible designs.
Like, for example Reborn Kiana's fit, Era Zero Kiana, pretty much anyone from Honkai Academy arc (aka the latest time skip arc) could pass for a ZZZ character (esp since Lucy seems to be kinda inspired by Karin with same colored eyes and hair), maybe even Era Zero and Fire Moth Himeko, too.
Hmmm unight be on to something
Isn't there always a discourse like this whenever hoyo makes a new game.I remember people making a ruckus of HSR being turnbased..
yea people love to cause drama... but its ok we gonn do our thing and love ZZZ!
@@KetteiThe7th_ exactly.I play hsr and remember people saying mihoyo got lazy cause turn based.Not sure I can play it BC 2 gachas is my limit and I'm playing wuwa but have fun!
I would encourage you give the game a try for one or two days just in case u end up loving it and if u don’t like it after that then just uninstall!
@@KetteiThe7th_ I will
sad to see Nicole's "character" get nerfed but overall still hyped for the game and mods will help bring back Nicole's qualities back
Ayo I forgot about mods that’s gonna be sick, unfortunately tho if I decide to stream I can’t use mods I’ll get banned LOL
@@KetteiThe7th_ that's sad
The hottest take I'll have on this is that there is no way someone could think ZZZ looks ugly when Baldur's Gate 3 exists.
THATS SO TRUE LMAO
Or when curent day western games exist
That shite is full with uglified characters thanks to some people
Main reason I wanna play this game is because of combat art style and characters 👏🏾
Amen!
tbh I'm just confused why there is so many more female characters and for the men there's only one human-like one whereas for the women even the non-human characters have very human features and a most either have a tail or a different skin color. I would be lying if I said this hasn't had an effect on my interest in the game
Hoyo gonna always cater to females more than males it’s unfortunate, but if you look at Genshin and Star Rail sells, men never do anywhere near as good as women do in terms of sells and hoyo only cares about profit
@@KetteiThe7th_ Sure, but does it justify a 3:1 ratio? Even if they may not sell as well, Hoyo obviously still releases male characters for HSR and Genshin for good reason. Also doesn't explain the weird difference when it comes to anthropomorphism for male and female characters. If things are going to be like this then I don't think it will be a game for me
edit: also worth noting that the men in HSR have actually sold quite well and it's a pretty even comparison if you remove Seele
genshin hasa 3:1 female male ratio too tho
@@KetteiThe7th_ no, both Genshin and HSR hover around 2:1
that's still a massive gap.... u realize how many characters are in genshin right? having double the females is a massive gap, and it will soon one day be the same for HSR so I don't see the point here
How comes sexualization and objectifitacion is a bad thing? For me this is best way to design fem character.
That’s what will sell the best so yea I agree with ya
there is a fine line between sexualization and objectification, if it leans to far to the latter then you might aswell make a pron game
@@user-wk9dr7wb8n Honestly, i do not really know the meaning of this words completely. And i'll never will, im not US sitizen. It is very easy for me - the sexier - the better.
@@Sirindilable sexualization means making the character sexy, objectification means ONLY making the character sexy, without any real personality trait, and that makes the character feels boring(and hey I'm also not from US, there's nothing wrong with learning new things)
I’m fine with this if it’s applied to the men as well. It’s kinda where the issue comes, because most of the time male characters get to be clothed head to toe (with maybe the occasional shirtless dude) while most female design in gacha games have them in booty shorts, skirts, or (rarely) leggings no matter the character. Then designs get boring and predictable after a while
Genshin and Honkai have something that is a cohesive problem. Setting. The futuristic setting in Honkai. The classic Fantasy setting in Genshin... That makes those game being able to "Risk less" in terms of variety of designs.
But ZZZ is just like "Nowadays" kind of story. Where people can use lot of clothes, accesories and everything to offer more variety. And they added furries to proof that point. Cause nowadays, Furries exist. So they do in the game as well.
Hmmmm interesting take, kinda like it
The games art direction is great from what I've seen, the only thing I'm a bit polarized on is how rubbery the animation is while it's a hit with some charactets making them more lively but sometimes with other characters it makes them look like gelatine. It might grow on me later on
lol I can see that
well for me ZZZ design is so cool looking, like alive comics, and for who raised on anime, comics, manga and manhwas its even more apealing.
fun fact after WuWa i cant look on genshin characters design without noticing they cartoonish appearence, when before wuwa i think they seemed to me pretty human like.
Important to say, title is a quote from others. The video is actually an in depth look at the designs
Exactly
I think is just that the standards of the mayority of gacha players simply can't see a normal character design or some casual clothes and think "yeah this looks good" because they are blinded from other popular gacha games filled with absurdly overwhelming desings sometimes, i couldn't care less how bad the characters can look if they make them INTERESTING, if i'm gonna spend time and effort pulling for a character i like only for the design, that character better have a personality or some good expressions when appearing on the story to make me believe that i'm not playing with an NPC just to clear content.
At first i too was one of the people that didnt like the way the game looks but it definitely grew on me
nice that you came around!
I don't think they're lackluster they're like really simple which I really like but some of them are like over over but some of them are simple like Grace
I love the designs!
I really love ZZZ character design, since first footage from idk how many time. It has a lot of personality and characters feels unique, and also think that it says alot of the character itself.
The only character i didnt like that much was Grace, but shes fine, just felt kinda separated from the whole game cast for me
Why u think grave is different?
@@KetteiThe7th_ idk, i feel like most of the character, specially her team are so extravagant and shes kinda normal, this doesnt make her look bad (shes pretty actually) but for me she looks way less uninteresting visual wise
Ah gotcha
Best designs I’ve seen in a hoyo game so far imo. They’re stylish, but not too sexualized😊(for the most part)
I agree!
For me, Nicole's image is a more street-style image of Fujiko Mine (from Lupin III). So sensuality is an integral part of her, and it is unacceptable to censor it. In contrast, Grace and Alexandrina don't need that big boobs, but unfortunately the end result is to fall between two stools.
hmmmmmm I see
I am over 40 and i see ZZZ design as something awful. Which is a marker that youngsters will like it a lot. They always like everything what enrages previous generation, lol.
Might I ask what you don’t like about the designs n particular?
@@KetteiThe7th_ Now that's not an easy question. Maybe this is a generational gap but i dislike literally everything. Animation is very good and expensive objectively, but subjectively i do not think this old soviet or Dysney-like animations suites well anime characters. Too plastiky, as if they all have a rubber skulls. Visual look is very teenagy. No beauty, no elegance, just a concentrated sloppiness "coolness" and "edgyness".
Or maybe different example. Imagine conservative guy from very traditional family, raised with classical music, classical literature and manners. And you bring him to a rock concert with drunk jumping hippies and asking him "what exactly do you dislike here" :)
Sorry, can't express it better.
I dont really see the plastic you see in the designs but to each their own, thanks for sharing your thoughts!
I think the characters we seen are pretty stylish.
And well for the part about oversexualisation. There is a fine line between it, and objectification. So far it seems the game didn't cross that line. Which is a really good sigh.
And those people probably didn't see the male characters. Billy in his triller has several bootty shots. When both male and female characters are sexualised people don't mind it (that's one of the reasons why bikini armor usually results in some type of heavy criticisum). Let's hope we get a similar caliber male character to Nicole. Or a female character similar to Ben or Lycon.
Bring all the characters!
bruh what are they smoking, I wanna play this game mainly for those gorgeous designs lmao
amen, the character designs are so good
I think the problem with people saying that 'Zenless Zone Zero character designs look bad' is that most people saying this are fans of the other MihoYo games. They're people that think that the designs of Honkai Star Rail and Genshin Impact look good.
The thing is, I believe that Zenless Zone Zero is not made with the idea to appease fans of MiHoYo's other games. I think it's pretty clear that the goal of Zenless Zone Zero is to try to pull in players like myself that didn't really jive with their other titles. They seem to be aiming for fans of DMC, specifically, what with the kind of grungy look that a lot of characters have to their outfits, and the gameplay, obviously. As well the extremely present and bombastic soundtrack in the game.
I want to be clear. It's okay to not like the character designs and prefer Genshin Impact/Star Rail's. And I'm not saying 'the game isn't for you' if you prefer Genshin Impact or Star Rail. I'm simply saying that I think you aren't the main target audience.
To me, Star Rail and Genshin Impact's character designs are way too much. I'd consider them 'overdesigned' in my opinion. Whereas ZZZ's character designs are just what I look for.
That’s fair!
I think the general colors and animations in game seem fairly good, unique compared to the brighter looks of Genshin and Star Rai. However, for me the character trailers themselves border on obnoxious when it comes to how much they move. Just feels like visual overload, but that’s just me. It especially doesn’t work well if you watch in dub where it’s basically impossible to keep up with the movements.
I think the designs are fine for the characters. None of them really speak out to me as that cool though other than Lycaon and maybe Ellen’s shark tail. But Rina, Ellen, and Grace have like the exact same color pallet with no real interesting features about their designs. Heck, if you visualize almost any outfits you probably can’t think of a single unique characteristic about them.
Not to mention the enemy designs, gameplay, and story seem rather bland so far. It’s probably the most lackluster game to me when it comes to the overall package. If it comes to console I may try it, but it’s not worth making space on my phone for it.
I personally like brighter styles though. Land of the Lustrous and Trigun Stampede look great to me.
I agree!
My issues with the designs is that we already have notable repeats (ex: soldier and anby, grace and yuan, they look way too similar which made me confused for a little bit) and the furries… I’m not judging those who like furries but i personally dont really vibe with it. And the general designs on the characters just dont do anything for me except for a few like billy and soldier. The designs are, in my humble opinion, really weak compared to hsr. I guess its a good thing because that means imma save a crap ton of pulls 😂
Well have fun in HSR! Hope u get who u want
the character designs are pretty good, they're not bad but they're also not better or equal to honkai star rail or some genshin characters, there are some really cool designs for sure but a lot of them feel just a little bit too boring
I personally like them and they show a lot of new characters in the livestream that looked incredible!
Fair about face and body xD
Wdym by fair?
for the longest time ive came to hate genshin's designs. past a certain point, its just over saturation of details within details and keeping things strictly pg didnt help. as a fan artist, i hate drawing genshin characters cos idk how they're designing them, probably a back and forth between 2d and 3d, but even their official art sometimes varies from the 3d model. in my eyes, its just loading up the details so people get the illusion that its well designed. like how you can fake a high resolution image if the contrast is high enough. ZZZ has real style and personally i feel like its more well thought out. not nearly as much pointless details that dont really add anything besides the noise. noise in this case is not necessarily bad, just that if its everywhere then it comes off as cheap trick to pump up the perceived quality.
Great comment!
I've played so many different gacha games that my brain must've rotted away too much to see how any of these characters (other than that hot ass wolf dude in a suit) are overly sexualized. Literally all the characters I've seen are wearing proper clothes. I watched this video assuming I was about to see some degen ass shit to hype me (and my wallet up). But all I see here is decent art style, probably some of the best character animations in cutscenes, a lot of personality in more ways than one. cough. I really hope that the story and gameplay can keep me in because thats practically the only thing I know nothing about.
amen I agree
sees zzz style fire emblem engage not my style that game avatars reminds me of fire emblem enage
Am confused what you mean?
Low key I think the problem people had with this game is the “lolis” (Which is stupid) now I don’t know really know why, but they assume everyone who plays this “loli” game is a EDP445 in the making 😭
Like I don’t even like the lil girl’s design in this game, I just like how they added the bear (Ben Bigger)
This game have over 45 million pre register count.people who hate the game before tried it is pi*ce of sh*t,i played all hoyoverse game and i like it main reason anime style and cross platform pc,mobile and PlayStation
Amen
@@KetteiThe7th_ 😁😁
I know people will disagree with me, and that's fine. But I personally don't like the designs or the gameplay.
The designs aren't my cup of tea. Like to me, it's nothing crazy really. It doesn't appeal to me. However, I am glad that they have diversity, which makes the game more refreshing and adds to more world building. And I can see why people are excited about it. But to me, I think it's a miss.
The gameplay is okay... Wasn't a huge fan of the ability, then switch and repeat. I was hoping there would be a juggling air combo's just more mechanics in general.
But since it's hoyo, they make their games beyond easy. And since it's most likely catering to casuals. So yea... people will like it. And play it on the side.
This game most likely won't die. It will have its fan base. Since it's coming out very soon. So I hope y'all enjoy it.
ty we will enjoy it! Hope u have fun on the games u play too!
Ignoring the "too sexualize" crowd, because it seems they never played a gacha before, in my personal opinion the character designs are great.... for a fighting game. People are expected to roll the banners for these characters, and yes some will 100%, but i don't think there will be enongh people to be profitable.
Theres going to be more than enough people the game has 45 million pre registers thats more than genshin and honkai star rail
Yo,im sike of the anti-zzz stuff. This game is the most creative and unique game to come out for a while. Im sick of the same old hero shooter and battle royals. This is such a beautiful game and im also not a fan of video games all made for kids. Hell, i feel hoyo games should only be for adults because gambling doesn't belong with kids anyway. This game is the fresh take I've been craving and its hard ass music and its punchy esthetics with the colors and vibes. It's amazing, and i have so much hype for this game. I dont understand the idea that this game will be doa, it clearly won't.
I can’t tell if your saying that I am doom posting or just saying in general others are, but I’m in full support of the game and will be covering and making a lot of content for it too I’ve been nothing but positive for it in my videos. I also agree it’s a breath of fresh air and I really look forward to this game being successful!
Design is subjective and everyone can have their own appeal.
For me this is the most unappealing gacha design to this day. Maybe it's the overly colorful design choice that makes it feel like splatoon or maybe the really unappealing attire or futuristic nonsense they went for. What I can say for sure is the stage combat did not help it one bit.
Female protagonist design was great but male protagonist design is meh, literally meh.
Srry you don’t like the males
Cool vid and Im excited for ZZZ too but excuse me for a bit of rant to those who like drama so much
while I respect everyone's Opinion , god I hate " I hate x , y is better Im unique Im so cool"
FFS PLAY WHAT YOU LIKE , comparing and downplaying one to another wont make you cool
TO EACH THEIR OWN
Preach!
People who complained this game is oversexualised should look at Honkai Impact
lol yea Hi3 has some spicy designs too
They should look at nikke or brown dust 2
@@joshbrosh6626 The amount of coomer-bait gacha games out there are endless. It's just quite funny that some Hoyo fans seem to forget that ZZZ isn't the first game they make with sexy characters lol
@@kingcoong alteast 60% to 70% of hoyo fans were normies that hadnts touched gacha before genshin
Which is why we have whiners now
> Playing Anime Game
> Complain Fan-service
mihoyo goals literally makes games for weeb "Tech Otaku Saves The World", not "Tech Nerd Pleasing Normies"
Hoyo has been pleasing normies since they censored everything in genshin 3 years ago
Exactly, you get it my man lol
@@puenboy1 you need to understand, censorship is not their goals. It strict by the laws. Wider you audience in game, the more you need to follow the laws. Because it is image to the public.
It same as if you have a child that like "Magical Girl". Even you allowed it, you still advice that child to not showing it off to the neighbour.
The Parent = Goverment
The Child = mihoyo
Does this refer to CCP? Yes.. But they not strict.. Playing CN game on CN server has a lot lewd stuff and fan service, but they don't get hunt or purge. Censorship start when your audience is outside from the mainland. Besides Genshin first release bombing and beat Tencent goals for a year making the government see hoyo as role model. Securing the image of country is important.
@@WazeAr yea they are doing their best to do what they can while pleasing the CCP
Anime is not synonymous with Fan-Service. The fact that’s what comes to your mind or the association just shows where your head is at. People can play an anime game and not like fanservice. 🤷♂️
Zero attractive and human looking male characters other than the MC, and a ton of waifus like 99% of gacha games, so yeah don't really see the variety or why I should love the artstyle.
They're also weirdly... idek. Not exciting at all. They feel dusty rather than unique, I played HI3rd and I didn't have that issue there.
I still pre-registered out of curiosity but the designs are the game's weakest point.
I think the males aren’t that bad but to each their own
@@KetteiThe7th_ There's a furry, a literal bear, a faceless android and an extremely generic looking shonen anime character with spiky hair. They're not just bad, they seem to have intentionally designed them in order to not attract anyone who prefers male designs.
See your not seeing the bigger picture, the males designs are unique and different this game wouldn’t have 45 million pre registered players if people weren’t interested. Just go and look at some real ZZZ fans you’ll see quickly that people are excited to play different characters. If u want pure waifu or husbando theres plenty of games already for that ZZZ is for people who want to play something different from the rest of the gacha games
@@KetteiThe7th_ But the waifus are all conventionally attractive (though kind of boring looking), it's the husbandos that have the throwaway "who cares" designs.
I'm pre-registered, it's because I like Genshin and HSR, not because I like the designs.
but that's you, do u not understand you cant speak for the entire community, there's more than enough people satisfied with the designs of the characters, even in the comment section alone there's a lot of people defending the designs
ZZZ character design is the most artistic compared to genshin or honkai. As an artist, each characters silhouette is unique and their design portrays their character's personality very well. I'm sorry but genshin or honkai is basic AF. Not because there's so much going on theie clothes they instantly look good. they're all the same with slightly different hair, height, and color. ZZZ personally is one of the concise yet well designed characters I've ever seen mihoyo made.
I agree!
How are you gonna say it's oversexualized when the designs were already censored lol. God forbid they dress like women in the real world. Plus it's refreshing to see another ARPG gacha game that doesn't have the female characters being so heavily clothed. Almost every single character in Honkai and Wuwa wears a dress or a skirt. 😒It's really boring. ZZZ has so much variety too, every faction has designs which look like they could be from an entirely different game.
Huh???????? I never said they’re over sexual tho? Did u not watch I literally praised the game
The character designs are not over the top like in genshin
due to that they look more like they actually live in that universe
im tired of playing the most obvious game of guess who's the main character
Lol I get that
this is so real, when i see belle and wise fitting in with the npcs its such a great thing because like, it makes them be part of that world, or how belobog industry playables look like the npcs with really only grace as an exception being the only one not having a white coat/jacket on her but she still fits in, when i'm looking at genshin or star rail as much as i love them they feel too out there, the KoV for example none of the members thats playable feel similar to the knight npcs (belobog does manage to do this right having gepard and pela wear the insignias and similar outfits and handguards for gepard)
I thought it was obvious to everyone that zzz has the best character design in any of hoyoverse's games
Nah a lot of people are against it which is CRAZY to me, I love the designs for ZZZ
this game is not for kids still in middle schools, go home and cry about it being "oversexualized" to your parent and call the police as well lol.
them virtue signaling are always funny.
Idk why some people think this game is for kids 😂
-What is this tourist take from those comments oversexualized😂😂 clearly they're not the real gacha gamers/weebs you dont have too look far and see that nicole is very tame when comparing to NIKKE,Azur Lane,Brown dust2 i could go on!!!
-about character design i think it's subjective if it's ugly for you(i'm saying this to the people who don't like zzz design) that's fine but for me personally i think ZZZ character design look Great especially Zhu Yuan and tbh this is why i don't play wuwa because for me wuwa character design looks mid i rather go and play PGR they have way better character design IMO.
-Also kafka looks 10X better comparing to yinlin had to compare a little bit you know 😂😂
Based take
oh you don't like the character designs in zzz? womp womp then it's a personal problem and if it matters so much then don't play the game
Your actually just like your name says, a sheep. If you actually watched the video you would see I was praising the game for its design and the title of this video was only to mock the people who don’t like the designs. Next time watch the video before you comment like this.
@@KetteiThe7th_ oh i did watch the entire video dw, my comment wasn’t intended directly at you but instead toward people who actually don’t like the designs which means that no, i was not critizing your opinion but rather agreeing with it because i find it quite annoying when people decide to look down at a game for it’s aesthetic
I genuinely apologize then, I have had people attack me for this video in my DMs on discord I truly apologize, I couldnt tell by the way u typed it
@@KetteiThe7th_ oh no worries at all, i should’ve made it more clear :)
Who ever saying this is blind and possibly has brain damage.
A problem i have with a lot of modern gacha games post genshin is that they have some of the most generic designs. Wuwa, hsr, and genshin have overly detailed yet plain Chinese anime designs. Take these designs have one artist do them and most of the time you can't tell which game they came from.
Zzz I'm very interested in for its character designs. Instead of Jerry dude and Jerry Lady we got, bears, robots, shark maids, oni, etc. Also zzz is aesthetic overlord which for some is probably why they're complaining but to me is a breath of fresh air.
Amen
I feel like calling these designs bland is just a straight up lie, especially if you're gonna compare it to wuwa. I like wuwa's designs, but aside from the limited characters, theyre much more bland than zzz's
I fully agree with ya
Nah, the character design are so bad to the point it is unplayable....
Tell that to the 45 million pre registers
@@KetteiThe7th_ Haha sure, we will see that fake number the release date.
ZZZ is going for casual/street design it’s a different style and it’s not even close to oversexsulize, have u seem stellar blade and guess what, it sells like crazy
Stellar blade is goated
These people really complaining about characters being oversexualized IN A GACHA GAME.
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