Thunderf00t VS. FemiNAZI Ghostbusters: A Measured Response
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- čas přidán 29. 03. 2016
- Thunderf00t's latest eighteen videos about feminism are surely the ones that will finally stop it for good!
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This aged terribly. Not the commentary, but the need for a bald cap.
Thunderfoot is my least favorite Land Before Time character.
@Genguidanos It's been two years and I'm still laughing at your comment lol! 🤣😂
@@sadtitties222 Best comment ever, Genguidanos.
@Anon 1 "Someone's being too positive about something time to be a little shit!"
Lol
fistbump for those who still know what the land before time is.
hbomberguy deserves a lot more credit for making these kinds of videos when edgy cringe culture anti feminism was the mainstream view online
Not really? If you watch his older videos, this is par for the course what his audience would expect from him.
Was?
Frosk is still getting her *** ****** for her rant. All the strong independent wahmen BS from hollywood and netflix is getting roasted non-stop.
Uh... it never was, I think maybe you were just a bit into that culture yourself when you first started watching him. Cause it's never been "mainstream;" really there's no "mainstream" on the internet. Incel cringelords, also known as misogynists before the internet, while a constant presence on the internet and in real life, and while being so insular that many members may _think_ it's mainstream, are neither new nor mainstream. It's just a demographic man. But no, there was no point when everyone was into misogyny.
@@keepcalmandenjoythedecline oh no! Incels are still making jokes online! Wow, it is kinda cute seeing you guys think that's a wider societal phenomenon with wide effects hahahahaha nope, it's mostly virgins, and it's still just jokes online (and the occasional mass shooter).
What do you mean "was"?
"If women want more women in films, they should just make their own movies!"
*women make their own movies with women in them*
You werent supposed to do that!
I think the better reaction is "Now feminism is taking over Hollywood!"
I don't watch a lot of movies or pay attention to Hollywood, but don't most of the big movies made by women often do poorly?
@@emceehawaii7542 I think a lotta movies suck anyway... I think it might only look that women suck at making movies because men have had so many opportunities to make great movies that no one can doubt that some men are great filmmakers but women don't have that, they lack opportunities historically so it's much easier to say "every film made by a woman sucks" because there aren't that many films by women
But in this particular case WoMeN did not make their own movie but parasited on an already existing franchise? I mean, if this was not a ghostbusters remake, literally no one would give a shit
doctor rieux not as lazy as the disney remakes so I don't give a fuck anyway
"I'm lonely and it's everyone else's fault" is the perfect tagline for the alt-right/gammergate guys.
Mirrors are available for purchase online and in your local shops.
Techdeki0 yeah because anyone who disagrees with you can’t get laid
That's Prestine - doesn't sound like you're getting laid. I know, I can tell, because I'm not either.
"Gamergate guys" lmfao. czcams.com/video/STl7-_f4_eA/video.html
Meanwhile "let's steal everything away from men, observe the vast majority of men are then a bunch of broke deadbeats and whine that there aren't any good high value men around to marry and subsequently divorce-rape, and then blame this problem we caused on men" is the perfect tagline for leftard feminazis.
(Feminists agreeing with each other)
"Lol, NPCs. Think for yourselves."
(Feminists disagreeing with each other)
"Feminism is EATING ITSELF ALIVE!"
I did not know clap backs could be this sexy.
I love the NPC meme, the people who share it all make the very slightest change to the exact same meme mocking other people for not being original thinkers.
It's the weirdest self burn I've ever seen.
@@ScottGuertin except the NPCs looking more or less the same is kinda the joke?
@@MrMarci878 The point isn't that the NPC characters themselves look the same, but that the joke is pretty much always the same.
@@datfisheboi6519 you wouldnt have to make the same joke if people wouldnt shout the same shit everywhere
2016 Was a weird time.
Yupp...
Totally was/ still is lol
It's 2023 and I'm feeling nostalgic for some gamergate culture war type content
@@MelancoliaI Seeing that stuff is still easy! :D
All you have to do is go to a video that was made in that Era!
We all want to forget 2016
I like how Harris doesn't need a swimming cap to parody Davis Aurini anymore
💀💀
So if a film with more women than men in the main cast makes it a 'chick flick', does that mean films with more men than women are 'bro flicks'? Or are those just normal movies?
Those are called 'Dick Flicks', I am not kidding
I think chick flicks are movies that focus on stuff like romance from a female perspective. I don't think anyone would call wonder woman a chick flick.
Nil S The majority of the cast of Wonder Woman is still male. The protagonist just happens to be a woman.
Welcome to the world of privilege.
A chick flick is not about the number of women on cast, it's about a story crafted to appeal specifically to women.
Thunderf00t is just unbelievably bad at arguing. I remember he was making fun of Anita's Bechdel Test video. In it, he said she was an idiot for thinking it was a useful or valid test for judging a films quality.
Except she literally says this in the video he is critiquing. She LITERALLY says "There are terrible films that pass the test, and great movies that fail it." She actually made the exact same point he did before he even made it. She preemptively refuted him by ACCIDENT. He lost a debate to a fucking pre-recorded video. That is how insanely trash he is at discourse.
+Gaviollieo And he thinks the quality of a CZcams video can be determined by its likes to dislikes ratio.
He even claimed that Anita's one minute narration only video game story summary fails the Bechdel test. A story summary without any actual dialog from a nonexistent game. You know what also fails the Bechdel test? A minute of silence. But he is rational.
He also claimed that not all videogames present "concepts of normalcy" because of Plants vs Zombies. Comedy and caricature has nothing to do with the real world according to the renowned pop culture critic Phil Mason. Then showed clips from the Simpsons to make a point about the real world.
+Gaviollieo that's nothing, check out his response to Anita's Beyond Good and Evil video
He literally tries to use the game containing violence as some sort of counterargument against Anita saying the game also contains things other than violence
No, I'm not joking
+Zeredek Or how in her first video, she points out that in a lot of games it's a male protagonist versus a male antagonist, fighting over a female character (which amidst a lot of "well, duh, Anita, I already knew that" was actually kind of an interesting observation) and pointed out that the opening of Double Dragon was kind of tacky, his response was "well no it's because he loves her!" and then went to ask "What, do you think the protagonist of Double Dragon should have just gone back to washing his car?"
It's like... the problem with picking apart these arguments is that they have so much pure nonsense and they're so fucking out there that you don't even know where to begin.
+Gaviollieo Like, oh my gaaawwd. You are soooo smarts. You must have some sort of degree or something. It's inthaaaane!
the thing of Anita wearing normal clothes and standing in a normal way with a caption making fun of her for going against gender stereotypes whilst still "dressing and posing sexy" makes me think it's psychosexual
"OH GOD SHE'S TOO HOT, SHE'S OUT OF MY LEAGUE"
- phillip mason, injecting 90 units of insulin into his dicc
Psychosexual?
“Because we’re manly men who don’t care about feelings we’re gonna whine and bitch about a movie because it has female leads for 40 minutes. Because that’s what confident secure men do.”
Assuming you're talking about TF, the video is about five minutes, and it's actually a criticism of corporate pandering, and how that ultimately is self-defeating, but don't let reality get in the way of your screeching about an open border or whatever it is this week.
@@seigeengine bruh
@@seigeengine bruh
@@PresidentOfTheUSA
People really be acting like just because you're vomiting shit for a different team that there isn't a stream of foul feces flying from their faces.
@@seigeengine Corporate pandering about what exactly? This is a dull remake of an old film it's not like the actors started blatantly repeating feminist theory. (And I would know since I've seen the film) Is it really pandering because there's women in it? If you have a problem with the fact that the movie is a totally unnecessary remake of a classic comedy film from the 80s I wouldn't disagree but as far as pandering this is nothing.
Women=Female
Female=Fe-male
Fe=Iron
Male=man
Therefore;
Women=Iron Man
Women are played by Robert Downey Jr confirmed.
I'd seen everything in that post before apart from the last sentence and it truly caught me off guard. Well played. He is a multifaceted actor indeed.
Angry Yogbuscus You have let out our ancient and sacred secret. Get ready to be *eliminated.*
Ah, the Teal Deer response to feminism
ILLUMINATI CONFIRMED!
Great, now I can't watch Iron Man, or anything with Robert Downey Jr in it, without getting a boner, thanks for making my life even HARDER... pun not originally intended, but once I noticed it became absolutely intended. :-P
T-f00t seems like the creepy priest guy from the Hunchback of Notre Dame movie who was so confused by his sexual obsession with Esmeralda that his only means of dealing with it was to try to burn her at the stake.
holy shit someone needs to do an edit of hellfire with thunderf00t as frolo
THIS BURNING
DESIRE
IS TURNING ME TO SIN
She will be mine, or she will burn!!
ö Count Frolo?
"IT'S NOT MY FAULT! (choir sings)
I'M NOT TO BLAME! (choir sings)
IT IS THAT GAMER GIRL
THAT WITCH WHO SENT THIS FLAME!"
-Thunderf00t, probably
thunderfzerozerot also has the unique ability to turn a 5 minute video into a 40 minute video by just repeating himself over and over
And talking about Elon Musk in every video
@@thomasphillips885The guy is literally obsessed with Elon Musk. It's like he is mad about his success for some reason.
@@Krytern It's incredible how muskoids manage to snake their way into every corner of the internet with the sole purpose of calling Tfoot mean names, because that'll totally show him. It's honestly pathetic.
@@numbersstationsarchive194 What names do they call him?
@@Krytern "Mad about success", etc. though usually the insults are more petty than that. I've actually seen some muskoids insult the length of his penis before. Sad!
"Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience"
- Mark Twain
i feel like that statement only works for irl debates with no other witnesses. If you're in a room full of rational people or even better on the internet, anyone with a brain will realise who the idiot is and side with you since you're gonna make sense and they're not
I remember hearing that exact phrase from anti feminist weirdos years back when someone tried to explain anything above basic biology.
hbomberguy is directly making fun of tf's chatacter and you put this quote here? dude it's about you.
"Mark Twain never said that."
-Albert Einstein
What a great quote
one of those things I've always hated about anti feminist logic is:
1. "feminism is an echo chamber that doesn't allow dissenting opinions."
*feminists from many different strands have a dialogue in which they critique each other*.
2. "feminism is a cannibalistic bloodbath!"
To be fair, when you're from an echochamber like Thunderf1234t is, any disagreement looks like a bloodbath.
I mean, look at the guy. He can't even argue against a generic creationist without falling apart. A generic person at your local pride rally does far, far better against creationists on a *regular basis*. That's WHY he is making videos like that.
In videos, people can't disagree, and he can make up whatever argument he wants.
you people demonize to avoid using words and logic. then laugh at people who obviously have mental disorders like flat earthers this video was a real mask off.
how would you know if his points were valid... he skips through them... for instant q:"is everyone's reasoning valid?" A:"we are humans we have the same genome, everyone here has more or less the same genome..." then he cuts him off and says its unimportant. why? sounded like he was going to talk about mental disorders and such that would make sense seeing that the question is if "everyone's reasoning" is "vaild". but let me guess he wasnt the right skin tone for you huh?
well atlest I got ThunderF00t to watch now lol
Futher more people like me and him have stuff to do like the work females act like they are doing. so we dont have time to make our words look pretty if you cant understand what im saying then "Is your reasoning valid" anyway?
THREE female Ghostbusters??
ThE femiNisTs are TaKiNg OvEr!
(🎵I’m an adult virgin🎶)
Benjamin Hill haha lmao
Anakin I told you it would come to this,the feminists are taking over
I read that last line on the tune of the Ghostbusters theme.
@@berserkerciaran because that's the way it's supposed to be read
Same 😔
Man I rewatched some of the old tf00t and amazing atheist stuff and I cant tell if I'm cringing at them or at myself
That's a mood. I remember watching it, and at some point I was like "Uh... I guess? Alright yeah, it has to be true, because they're rational, and I'm rational too".
Thank fuck I grew up.
@@inkryption3386 EXACTLY
at least now he's mostly just focusing on calling out shitty projects?
@@airplanemaniacgaming7877 Sure, but it's still just low-hanging fruit. Don't need a "powerful skeptic" to tell you that the electrolyzing water bottle or some shit is probably a sham sandwich.
@@inkryption3386 sure, for you or me maybe. there's some things that people look at and go "whoa, i wanna throw my money at this!" and wind up feeding the things that Thunderf00t promptly proceeds to disassemble via the science. at least he does it with SCIENCE. better than just "oh, it's bad and an obvious waste" as the lowest hanging fruit. he actually does put the science behind his reasoning behind those videos.
Watching this now is incredibly gratifying. I was once young, on the internet, and discovering atheism. I was also a teen girl. It already hurt so much when I just wanted to watch videos about anime or games and other hobbies that are normal for kids to have, only for there to be misogynist "jokes" inserted in by 30 something year old men making top tens about kids' games like Mario, Megaman, and Banjo. I was also carrying a lot of trauma so the "top ten hottest women" lists were also very uncomfortable to me. This was the end of the 2000s and early 2010s. I can't look back on any of that stuff fondly now. Atheist content was the one avenue I had that was even the smallest bit of validating, as it would often criticize homophobia. When the anti-feminist phase of atheist content swung by, it was scary. All of the feminist talking points they were demonizing actually made a lot of sense to me, but it was met with seething vitriol by the one community I felt I could trust. I just felt ashamed that my first instinct was to agree with feminism. The worst was how angry they got at feminists bringing up sexual assault and how we normalize it, as I was struggling with coming to terms with being a victim of it myself. Amazing Atheist very infamously told a woman she deserved to be raped because she was a feminist. To add to that, the made up fearmongering over false accusations by anti feminists only scared me from saying anything because I didn't have hard proof of things that happened, which would make me an evil "false accuser". Truly vile, I have no qualms saying it was damaging.
Thankfully, now I'm still atheist, but also as radical of a feminist you can possibly be lmao. Just want to drop a retroactive thanks to Hbomb for this, though I wish I found it sooner.
Remaining an atheist after seeing... The "amazing" guy with the banana and I HOPE chocolate must be some real conviction! XD
Good for you.
@@KasumiRINA Because it is the duty of feminists everywhere to kink shame.
You had me at ~WOMZ~ x
So glad one of the only animators left on this site who I respect enjoyed this.
+TomSka I was not expecting to see you here, TomSka! :O
+EdwardMelton He's not an animator. He's even said as much in a video called 'I am not an animator'.
+EdwardMelton there is a few more but he is the only one who posts regularly.
TomSka to
"Take only what's important!!"
*grabs fedora and skull*
IT'S A TRILLBY -HISS-
I'm glad that Thunderf00t got so thoroughly shamed that he went back to science
Brexit is when he cut ties with the rabid anti-SJW crowd. He was a remainer
I used to watch him a couple years ago like before COVID without know this and uh
Idk i mean i didn't care enough to put my finger on it but i did end up unsubscribing because something felt really off
If he did change good for him tho really hope he did and isn't as in need of being superior in arguments and life
I used to watch him a bit in like 2013 for some of his debunking pseudoscience videos, which were decent enough, but then I started seeing him talk about "feminazis" and I was like, "nope, I'm out", and I've been very glad to have distanced myself ever since
I used to enjoy his science videos, but then I finished college in chemistry like him, & realised it’s all pop science, & it’s more important for him to look right than be right, just like his anti-feminism videos. Bcs he displays a lack of understand of lots of things he comments/explains on but most ppl can’t see that. He’s owning ppl with “facts & logic” for his Paterson subs but this time most ppl can’t dispute his claims
What actually happened was he built up a fan base of alt-right types, appealed to them further with anti-SJW videos, then made the error of publicly disagreeing with alt-right figures like Sargon of Akkad in that he was opposed to Brexit. This made him persona non-grata in the alt-right pipeline so he stopped doing political stuff really.
Thunderfoot keeps bees? This is respectable. I will give him one respect for this, and nothing else.
He only keeps male bees though, anything otherwise would be misandrist
@@inimitableminimalist well if you know anything about bees, they are over 99% male by design, so yup, accurate
@@shawnpepin7890 And if _you_ knew anything about bees, you'd know they're 99% female. The otherwise useless and short-lived males are born in the mating season, and live for a week or so before they either mate with a new queen from another hive (and die in the process - their dicks literally explode), or fail their one purpose in life and are driven out of the hive and left to die of exposure. Male bees don't even have stingers.
@@heinrichagrippa5681 lol... you are wrong.. and there are many different types of bees... some male bees don’t have stingers, but many do, and are very agreesive... have you ever wondered why there is a queen bee
@@shawnpepin7890 I don't claim to be an expert on all bees, but I do know that at least for honey bees, all except for drones are female. However, only a select few called "virgin queens" fully develop their ovaries. The rest are infertile. You might try to argue non-functional ovaries means they aren't truly female, but they're definitely not male either.
She spent not ONE CENT on her thought experiment that she said was a thought experiment rather than a real game pitch! FEMINISM IS DEFEATED!
+IamSpacedad Didn't that aruni dude blow some of the money on the sarkessian effect on a new car
@Ash Kitt Sargon's not doing any patreon shilling today! 😏
The set up and joke of:
"Logical fallacy!"
"There, I've undone it. Are you happy?"
"Do I look happy to you?"
Is an almost perfect microcosm of the nature of the discourse presented by the youtube right.
True. Good eye.
This psychological phenomena is endemic to the human mind. I've caught myself in similar mental pitfalls from social ideologies. Unless you lack a mind, you have as well.
@@GrimSleepynach, my guy. Just because you worded it well does not mean you're correct.
Being unhappy is not normal, but being happy all the time isn't either.
Paul Watzlawick anyone.
@@radschele1815 It's the seldomness of happy or good events that make them so valuable. An unnaturally unhappy individual will cherish them all the more than an unnaturally happy individual. Point goes to the unhappy.
When things are going well, as they are supposed to be, people tend not to take notice or give attention to the momentary events. It is when things go awry, or in unintended ways, that people afford their attention towards. Which is the same reason that most news is bad news. It grabs attention better. Point goes to the unhappy.
A glass that is half full of liquid, through evaporation and other physical reactions, will contain less than half of its contents within moments. Science says the glass is half empty. Point goes to the unhappy.
Negative begets negative, positive begets positive. Love and be loved.
Be glad to be less than happy, in fact, be downright happy about it! It just means you're a person.
11:40 "Brevity is the soul of idiots."
Man, hbomb really took that advice to heart.
Not exactly one of my proudest memories but I was a real, real, REAL big fan of Thunderf00t back in high school. Yes, I was that guy. The pseudo intellectual who was a B student and thought all my little Christian fellow students were idiots who would follow a false belief in an invisible man: no joke, I once called out a girl for wearing a crucifix because "lawl, would you put an electric chair around your neck?" I didn't even know her name. My steady diet of atheism stuff kept me that guy. And then this Anita Sarkesian character came out, who was just wrong and bad and wrong and trying to take my video games and wrong and bad and didn't know what she was talking about and how she should just stop because what does she know about anything! Why do I need to watch her videos: she's wrong! And my idol Thunderf00t was always willing show the ridiculousness of Anita. I mean, she rails against this 'supposed' anti-woman sentiment by characters being drawn ludicrously sexy but she was wearing a push up bra and had sexy make-up! Clearly this Feminazi was an animal that needed to be shut up! And I CLEARLY didn't have a problem with women because I was a liberal white boy who would have voted for Obama if I was old enough! Sure it is wrong to be sending death threats, BUT, really she's just the worst!
I, uhh, came back from a pretty dark ledge. I think back to those times and am just so fucking glad I barely missed red pill. I wasn't quite ready to go along with "women should be silent, and pretty" but I was doing the "how is it fair that women are usually given parental preference in custody battles?!" type shtick. I read back on some of my old journal entries... it is fucking appalling. How weird in this 15 page screed against terrible actors who should not be acting that they just so happen to ALL be women! Or stuff that basically amounts to "the problem with feminism is that women are saying it."
Hearing Thunderf00t's voice again talk about "they think having certain sexual organs makes them special" brought back more memories, and emotions, than I was prepared to handle...
As long as you get better nobody is proud of who they were in high school
my boyfriend is in that phase... at 29 years old...
I've been trying to explain to him how how he's hurting me by saying dumb shit and agreeing with people like thunderf00t, but I'm really not that smart and I don't know how to analyse what he is saying and point out what I think is wrong. I feel like he's starting to look down on me, because I'm a woman, and because of my silly attempts at making him understand. all the while he's parroting the anti-feminist youtubers.
@@bunnimi Gonna have to agree with faith reader here, you should dump him. If your relationship is important to him, he'll see how bad he's fucking up; if he doesn't, then he's too far-gone at this point in time for anything you could do to help.
Yeah I agree, no matter how much he means to you, that MRA shit us mind poison and it could make him worse than he is now and you already said he’s hurting you. Pls get out while you can. The only one who can make the choice to improve is him
you grew as a person. be proud, buddy
MRAs: Feminism is an echo chamber that squashes dissenting ideas
Feminists: *Argue on matters of race, gender and sexuality*
MRAs: Haha the feminists are eating each other!
Maybe they mean "eating each other" in a slightly different context?
That almost fits better.
"I'm so rational.... I'm rational..." *starts crying* lmfao
you did it , finnaly , you are a rational being son , i am proud of you
*tears of joy*
I'm rational 😥😢😥
"This is what a patriarch looks like..."
thunderfoot is far better at making fun of Elon Musk than he is Anita, he should stick to science, and mostly has, thank god.
I dont know, the vacuum stuff he pushes is a bit ridiculous. "Is your thermos mug a bomb!!!!!?????!!!" So many real things to critique and he thinks a vacuum irl collapses to same pressure as outside in 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001s :D
@@jepulis6674 Wait are you actually serious? How are you this lost and yet so arrogant? A vacuum needs more structural integrity from the same pipe because of the outside air pressure. How is this so hard to understand?
Also large vacuums are hard to maintain. There is always some leaks, which means a lot of energy used for just maintaining the vacuum.
@jepulis6674
I don’t like tfoot, but his elon videos are as accurate as they are needlessly repetitive (very) Vacuum can absolutely crush objects in the blink of an eye and videos of this happening are just a CZcams search away.
I agree, I didn't know thunderfoot for anything but ripping the p*ss out of Musk and seeing this other stuff makes me lose respect for him for engaging in the culture war.
@@SeaCowsBeatLobsters its hilarious Elon fanboys keep trying to find validation in this comment section
Thunderf00t was actually how I ended up getting into alt right CZcams as a kid. I love science and watched his cool science videos and as somone I respected for his science I started watching his other videos. So as a kid I was told by who I saw as a smart science guy that feminism bad and for year 10 me that was enough to send me into a spiral where I ended up balls deep in the alt right. All I can say is thank fuck I went to uni and was exposed to literally just 1 other viewpoint that made me think hmm maybe feminsm no bad as what the alt right portrays it as isnt even close to what feminism is.
It's funny to think I went from tommy Robinson and trump supporter to basically a socialist thanks to uni and videos like this. Goes to show how important and influential a different perspective can be
People will say you got indoctrinated by uni and that schools have espouse SJW propaganda.
You haven't, I'm in the same boat (except university, I had some amazing friends that explained again and again why my views were objectively wrong and answered any questions I had) and it's such a good feeling to see other people having gone through this. You feel better for it eh?
Which is unfortunate because thunderf00t is definitely left-wing and not at all alt-right.
Thunderf00t is a bit sloppy about his criticisms of genuinely deranged "feminists," for sure.
Like, your general vibe isn't uncommon, but consider Thunderf00t had a huge schism with a lot of his audience because of his ardent opposition to Trump...
@@seigeengine yeah, he's left wing but his most vocal political views alight with the right. And that's because he probably similarly to what happened with me was intrldiced to things like feminism via the extremist feminists and then just assumes that's what all feminism is. Yeah considering hes a scientist he got sloppy when it comes to researching feminism
@@seigeengine I think he's a centrist because "he's rational and doesn't like to puck one side" lol
@@Thomas-ev4gm Which would those be? Cause "feminism" isn't specific.
'Hey thunderf00t, did you win that debate with Eric Hovind?'
'That is, uh, is a malformed question.'
well it depends on what you mean by "win" and "debate"
A question CAN be wrong!
For example, if I ask you "What is 5 volts plus 5 amps?", you won't be able to answer the question, because the question is wrong!
Or another example, if I ask you "How do you make a thread from assembly?" (assembly meaning assembly language and thread meaning an operating system thread), again, you won't be able to answer the question, because the question is wrong!
MrJason005
Easy
Q1: 5 volts AND 5 amps
Q2: You can’t
Checkmate, atheist!
OK, try this one:
"Why is Nicola Sturgeon's hair pink?"
MrJason005
Ermm....
Ahh flip you got me
In an age where saying you support feminism on the internet will get you bashed by 100+ angry anti-feminist crusaders, it's good to see that someone has the balls to go against these obsessive fuckers. Thanks for making this video!
Actually there is more; look for Contrapoints, Garret, The Skeptic Feminist...
Welcome to the other side!
+Lenna thanks for those names. Sad to see their lack of followers though. But just the fact that someone is picking up arms against these idiots is encouraging. I saw some of these folk (thunderfood and sargon etc) on Dave Rubin's show, and was scared to see them go unopposed in the comments.
But then again, no matter how many times Dave says he's a "classic" liberal, it seems he's embracing the alt-right ever more each day. It may be just his choice in guests, but damn I hate his calling everything down the middle. When someone is deliberately lying, call them the fuck out.
Sry for the rant, just wanted to say thx
***** Maybe educate yourself from someplace other than Reddit you ignorant crusader shallow fuck.
That's...not a main issue. It's not even a sub issue. It's something used as an example of men not putting the needs/comfort of others above their own. Issues are things like rape culture, things like manspreading are symptoms. Learn the difference.
AvengingMikon He's already influenced by big youtubers trying to get views on the matter and nothing else. He's beyond saving. Too much Leafy for his own good, poor child.
I wish I found this channel instead of thunderf00t's in 2016.
me too
“have you actually read the vagina monologues?”
“NO!! THERE’S NO TIME!!”
😂😂😂
Went to see a showing in London a few years ago. When I came out I bought a badge from the merch stand that said "I'm your 'Bob'" :D
"That gif of her makes my blood boil."
My first instinct is to laugh, but I think that would be mean of me. The ironic thing is that feminism is also against the culture of raising young boys into men who feel their blood boil because something threatened or challenged their masculinity. It really does boys a disservice and leaves them unprepared for dealing with basic human feelings.
Speaking of basic human emotions, your icon fills me with much moe. Mad props.
@@Sleepy12ftPanda moe is one of human's basic needs
@@Sleepy12ftPanda cringe
@@Sleepy12ftPanda cringe
@@Sleepy12ftPanda cringe
"Heart on the Proton Pack! These grills don't give a shit about SCIENCE and laboratory etiquette!" Because the Ghostbusters in the first film were so safety-conscious and totally did not get on the wrong side of the federal government for housing unlicensed equipment in their basement.
I definitely sympathized with the EPA guy in the first film. I mean, he was portrayed as an over-the-top asshole caricature of a nosey business-hating tree hugging government fascist trying to keep the honest, kind-hearted small businessmen down, but in the real world I'd be totally on board with the EPA shutting down a bunch of untested nuclear equipment in the middle of Manhattan.
By the same token, ghosts aren't fucking real, Ghostbusters didn't understand nuclear physics at all, and in that context it's completely fucking okay to put a heart on a warning sticker. I mean for fuck's sake, Egon made an EEG sensor out of a colander. Is that disrespecting neuroscience?
He's still dickless.
As he was portrayed in the film? Agreed.
...that's the joke about it. I don't know about you, but I laughed SO hard when they switch on Ray's proton pack and then back away.
+Louis Laveau Exactly, now it just seems like they're jumping around awkwardly with these silly looking ghost gun things.
6:09 - I mean, to be fair, that is a seriously malformed question.
Very true. I think it's the only type of question Eric Hovind can ask- a malformed one.
Not a debate man but i dont see it
Is it impossible for a god to exist?
as in ”agnostic atheist or atheist atheist”
@@anduro7448 I don't think it's impossible but based on the scientific knowledge that has been gathered, it seems highly improbable.
@@creativepseudonym9872 same , god could exist , but so could russles teapot
most likely not , but we will never know for sure
@@anduro7448 Not presently at least. At some point we might know with a high degree of certainty.
Holy fuck that movie was 6 years ago... i feel old..
Also, just discovered ur channel. What a gold mine, awesome content.
we are twinsies
im a scientist dont question my social commentary credentials.
+CinnamonTwist Fuck that. I handled *bees*.
Checkmake, -atheist- feminists!
+CinnamonTwist ...Unless of course you're a social scientist. Then your social commentary credentials should be questioned.
-Thunderl0gic
+CinnamonTwist Surprised the thundermentalists haven't shown up yet.
"Ghostbusters is bad, let me tell you about Anita Sarkeesian"
Thunderf00t in generall
"The trailer for Ghostbusters looked bad and the reaction was used to create an internet shitstorm for publicity, here's an example why it was possible involving Sarkeesian"
If you formulate it that way it does sound weirdly like the JW coming to your door "may we tell you about our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ"? :D
Is Thunderfoot secretly worshipping AS? Is he an AS(s)guy?
ironically, Thunderf00t is the guy who got me on the track to de-radicalization. Back in 2016 when this video was made, I was definitely in the anti-sjw crowd. I watched Dr. Shaym, armored skeptic, Sargon of Akkad, shoeonhead, and many others. One of the others I watched happened to be Thunderf00t. I liked his anti-sjw content and stuck around as a subscriber to his channel. At this point, I should mention that I grew up Mormon, and then later evangelical Christian when my family left the church. In about 2018, I started watching his "Why People Laugh At Creationists" videos. They're long, rambling, horrible meme-filled things, but he brought up some important things about burden of proof and basing decisions on evidence. This lead me to have a crisis of faith, and in conjunction with watching and reading a lot of christian apologists, I told myself I'd give the other side a try. This led me to watching creators such as Genetically modified skeptic, cosmic skeptic, and others of the 2nd-wave atheist CZcamsrs. One thing I noticed was especially from GMS CS was their focus on morality and ethics. On my journey through that, I learned a lot of my preconceptions about sexuality and gender identity were plain wrong. This caused me to rethink everything I had thought about social justice, and eventually I ended up here.
My younger brother has become weirdly focused on feminism as some source of supposed great evil. His entire political outlook seems to be shaped by his opposition to it now. I think the CZcams algorithms or whatever have led him and many other men down that particular rabbit hole over the last few years. It's fun to laugh at but it also seems to be the type of thing that potentially fuels certain serial killer type guys.
just show him a single one of these videos lol, even if he hates it, it'll make him think
It does, speak to him about it
Find out who he watches too and watch the same stuff so you can form a decent response to his potential questions.
@@somenerdpng This is a genuinely awful choice. Hbomberguy is outright lying throughout much of this video, and never even tries to earnestly address what anyone is saying. He's also whining about someone that has had a major break with the anti-feminist types that this guy's brother probably watches.
This is seriously problematic because the same people who promote anti-feminism also tend to promote far-right nonsense, fascism, misogyny, racism, etc.
I'd try to figure out what his specific opinions are and try to discuss and inject nuance gradually.
It cannot be overstated how insane it is that there are so fucking many videos out there screaming about Anita Sarkeesian. This is not normal behavior for human beings.
To be fair, the same could be said for people like, say, DarkSydePhil.
However, when all those videos come from ONE person, that's a whole different story.
+Lurdiak You know what else isn't normal human behavior? Wearing glasses, using medicine and building machines! Are you seriously suggesting that you'd rather vision impaired people bump into walls all day, people die from all sorts of terrible diseases and humanity never got to the moon? That is quite clearly what you're saying. Let me desribe to you a big number of horrible, painful diseases that can be prevented with the use of medicine so you can see how wrong you are. Look at the statistics (link in the comments) to see how many people would be dead or suffering horribly, right now, if we all followed your ridiculous "normal behavior" doctrine. Are you feeling bad yet, you repugnant, idiotic scum of a human being? Do you finally understand how wrong you are to criticize my right to make 10 million video COMPLETELY OWNING Anita's pathetic sjw agenda-driven arguments?
I'm rational.
+m3llo8an4t0s Holy shit I couldn't even tell your post was satire until the very end. I was feeling my blood start to boil.
It's such a masterful post. Love it.
Aww, thanks :D
Thunderf00t is right about one thing: The reason so many people clicked Dislike on the trailer _was_ because they were angry about feminism. It's almost refreshing to hear someone on his side admit it.
What a strawman...
Or because the movie was complete shit.
Pocket Fluff Productions I just disliked it because everyone else was doing it and it was funny :]
That can be true (it is!) and the rage and fury over it being somewhat unrelated to said badness can also be true!
The original Ghostbusters trailer was worse, making out it was a more serious horror movie. Only when I saw it on a top ten at the US box office show did I actually realise it was a comedy. I didn't want my brother coming along (I'm 3 years older than him) in case it scared him at first. They fucked up on that trailer more than this one.
I watched the thunderfoot video hoping that you were misrepresenting him.
Not because I doubted you, not because I expected him to be right, but simply because I couldn't believe that a human being could actually produce that and think it was worth putting on the internet.
You were right. All hope is lost.
It's labelled a rant so it's not one of his best videos but if you watched his videos long enough you'll know that he is drawing a parallel between the singular focus on feminist agenda that was pushed by Anita in her game and the same kind of singular focus in this film, which is not popular so he is predicting that the movie would flop.
If wanting equal treatment makes me a feminist, then I am, but I don't think we would ever get equal representation of men and women in the workforce in any industry and I don't think we should force it. some industries are dominated by women, some others by men and there is nothing wrong with that as long as there isn't discrimination or harrasment.
Also the wage gap (which keeps getting repeated by these toxic feminists) isn't real.
And thunderf00t has talked about this in his own crazy way. People including me wouldn't go to thunderf00t if there were reasonable feminists criticizing anita and other crazy people who call themselves feminist
Also coming back to the film stuff, Ghostbusters was a blatant cash grab, a bland remake trying to cash in on feminism. Other "feminist" movies like wonder woman actually had an original script and charismatic actors and almost everyone (me included) liked it and that was the point of the video. "create something original" that can amplify the message of feminism instead of "all female remakes"
@@thunderb00m The thing youl notice with movies like this new ghostbusters is that they are simply a cynical cash grab. They are using their “woke” casting choices and plot to make people feel morally obligated to support it.
Don’t believe me? Look at Black Panther. A mediocre super hero movie that was blown so far out of proportion for how inclusive and brave it was that people felt obligated to see it and enjoy it. All sorts of weirdos came out of the woodwork to defend the movie even while admitting it wasn’t very good. All of this simply because it’s about black people.
This current fascinating with black or female characters in movies is going to look pretty cringe 5-10 years from now once all this calms down. We have had plenty of great female leads in movies, Sigourney Weaver as Ellen Ripley in the Alien movies had been a hero of mine since I was a child. And I’m a man.
Benjamin Sisko from Star Trek DS9 is probably my favorite Star Trek character. And he’s black, and I’m white.
This is such a manufactured issue. I want to see more movies with black people and women in them, sure. But I don’t need them shoe horned into rolls in order to cash in on wokeness. Make them a valued addition to s film. Not a selling point.
"take only what's important" *grabs skull and hat* I DIED
Fun fact: I posted a CZcams comment on the official trailer saying, essentially, "I'm fine with Lady Ghostbusters as a premise but this movie looks bad" and my comment was deleted.
But all the mysoginistic comments surrounding mine? Totally untouched.
Can that even happen on youtube? I know there's like a spam detector or something.
Ghostbusters wanted to promote the idea that people hated the movie strictly because of their sexism in order to get people who hate "sexism" to go watch it.
@@DIVAD291 So, an attempt to do something like the Kuerig marketing thing from Woke Brands?
"But all the mysoginistic comments surrounding mine?"
It's misogynistic. Why do you even use big words when you do not know how they're spelled?
Also: how do you even know that your comment was deleted? The Poster NEVER is shown that their post is no longer visible and doesn't get a notification of the deletion. You did value the chance of deletion so much that you went into the comment thread a second time to see it with a different account or not logged in?
If you did not change profiles, there are more than enough explanations for your post having vanished, like it being so far down that you didn't bother to check up on it. Comments do not stay in the position you originally posted them in, they end up down where they chronologically were posted and with a pretty lively thread that would mean VERY far down.
Or you did write the post but it failed to actually save. Happens occasionally, especially when the website is busy like it could be with the amount of interest generated through the said trailer. Finally if in YOUR view it truly is gone... you might have wanted to edit the post and simply deleted it, forgetting that later on. Actually with how CZcams comments work that is the only way you would be shown that your post actually has gone.
@@Ugly_German_Truths Wow even the worst thing he could've meant making this extreme mild comment wouldn't commence such an aggressive answer ,like
Maybe english isn't his first language ?
You ass hat
It turns out, a film can just be kind of crap without destroying society.
My main problem with the ghostbusters reboot is that it is 90% dancing and 2% plot. And all i remember is them trying to make chris hemsworth look like a relateable dork and failing. The other 8% of the movie was callbacks to the original. The problem wasnt female ghostbusters, the problem was bad writing.
This looked like it from the first trailer.
Tfoot got a major crush on Anitia , and its so obvious it almost 3rd grade cooties level
Reverse Hey Arnold situation.
He's a stalker and is cyberstalking Anita.
In all seriousness, she's beautiful
+ Steven W his hairdo even somehow resambles helga's!
yup and smart
Thunderf00t's obviously got a crush on Anita.
Reminds me of the incel crowd. "God I want a girlfriend, I hate women!"
Bullshit, he's more in the closet than Tom Cruise
If he´s that obsessed with her, maybe he should ask her out and go on a date with her? Maybe this would help him a lot :) ... or worsen his obsession XD
Well I can't blame him for that as she is an attractive woman.
Why is Anita obsessed with fucking up everyone's good time?
I'll never forget how grown ass men acted over this movie. It was embarrassing.
Oh man that bald cap you used in this aged like milk.....
sad milk.
I mean to be fair ever since he got his testosterone measured he knew he was going to go bald young. His beard growth has done a lot to offset it.
@@SorchaSublime While testosterone levels are a factor, the issue is actually more whether or not the hair on the top of your head is susceptible to it.
WHERES ANITAS BEES #WHEREANITASBEES WHERE ARE THEY
WHAT DO WE WANT?
ANITAS BEES!!
WHEN DO WE WANT IT?
BZZZZZZ!!!!
H OW DARE SHE DOESNT HAVE BEES WHAT THE FUCK ANITA DAMN U
#BEEGATE2017
Still waiting on them bees...
It's been well over a year, where are those fucking bees Anita? #WHERESANITASBEES
Does Thunderf00t have a crush on Anita? Absolutely. The foemance is real.
+Yang Xiao Long Anita is my waifu leave her alone
+Yang Xiao Long
Ew.
***** NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Part of the reason he hates her so much is because he knows he'll never tap that.
You're my only waifu bby
The fact the skull’s name is Mort (Latin for death) is a great touch
Planescape Torment reference?
@@kristian2353
Its so sad that nowadays this 'replacing man by woman' IS REAL.
Even this c-section here called it out as imaginary,
and they're not wrong (as expected of a Hbomberguy-comment-section!),
BUT:
Now its Real!!!
How sad is that?!
I mean, my god: We live in a Parody posing as a Real Planet, dont we?!
Holy fluff... i dont know if it was like that,
but nowadays, Wokeness and stupid Virtual Signaling does
swap People, like Indiana Jones,
and does destroy entire Franchises,
including Doctor Who and Star Trek and Star Wars.
The Woke were made fun of by this comment-section,
but now it has become kinda real! Whoaaa.
I discovered Thunderf00t’s channel last year and really enjoy his pseudoscience-debunking videos. Somehow, I never found out about his being an anti-feminist until yesterday. I feel pretty bad now :(
you didnt know and you (presumably) dont share his idiotic views so literally nothing to feel bad about dont worry 😁
He isn't an anti-feminist, so... maybe try thinking more and being a mindless extremist drone less.
@@seigeengine Are you kidding? The guy is a textbook shitty anti-feminist
@@seigeengine Can I get source? Because there are definitely sources for him being an anti-feminist...and most of his anti-feminist fans would not agree with you either. (Although who knows, he might have posted something on another platform I missed. I watch all of his videos and haven't seen it)...Meanwhile, I can point to literally every single video he's made on feminism. I know he's stopped, thank god, but he's just stopped talking about feminism, period. All those videos are still up unfortunately. (I can't count how many times I've hit "Not Interested" on them.)
I also doubt his anti-feminist supporters would agree with you. It's not just feminists who consider Thunderf00t to be anti-feminist. Have you told all his anti-feminist fans that actually Thunderf00t thinks they're wrong and has completely changed his views and they're stupid for believing TF agrees with them?
Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure his Patreon and core supporters are anti-feminists, so if he tries to come out for feminism explicitly, he will cause a shit storm for himself...The shit storm won't even compare to him breaking away from the Skeptic™ Anti-SJW community as he did a few years ago. If he actually has already come out as a feminist, or at least made clear he's no longer anti-feminist...Pretty sure I'd have heard about it by now.
I hope one day he quietly privates all the endless anti-feminist videos on his channel that contain terrible arguments and lies. I wish I could safely suggest his videos, but his channel still firmly rests at the entrances of the alt-right pipeline...despite him not agreeing with any of the Creators whose anti-feminism and then conservative videos will absolutely be recommended to anyone who dares click on one of Thunderf00t's videos on feminism. Shit, you don't even need to click on one, because I've had those videos be put as "Up Next" and autoplay immediately takes me to it, and then onto all his other anti-feminist videos.
I'm relieved Thunderf00t is not making those videos anymore and at least has seemed to no longer be prioritizing anti-feminism over other things. Relief is actually an understatement because I love everything else he does. I wish Thunderf00t wasn't an anti-feminist. (Especially because I don't think that he's truly against the reasons I'm a feminist, he just lacks perspective on it, hasn't thought about it enough. He's very busy.)
Still, I just don't think it's good to go around declaring Thunderf00t isn't an anti-feminist unless he's actually stated that.
I love Thunderf00t, always been sad about the feminism shit, and how many of his science videos *not* on feminism, have all the top comments from anti-feminists complaining about feminism. Like his awesome video about discovering why aluminum explodes....the comments are dominated by people just changing the topic to feminism, it's sad.
I'm relieved at least he's moved on, and it seems the comment sections are more on topic and I enjoy them. (Honestly, if it weren't for his issues with feminism, I think he'd be a leftist. But I say "I THINK" because it's not my place to make claims about his true beliefs and positions.)
/End rant. From a sad feminist fan of Thunderf00t. :/
@@sorryifoldcomment8596 You want evidence someone doesn't hold a position? What next, going to ask me to prove there isn't a God? Clown.
Literally none of those videos are anti-feminist, lol.
Making character attacks on his audience does not constitute an argument about anything.
You mean the sound arguments and truths you're real butthurt about?
I'M a feminist. YOU are just sad.
If you sold "I'm so rational" t-shirts I would totally buy like, 5 of them.
Problem is, I bet there would be some redpilled dudebros who didn't realise they were sarcastic
That would be the most rational thing to do
I actually fell into the skeptic community around 2014 after the whole gamergate scandle and the quinnspiracy and i feel like such a fool now. Videos like these, and the ever increasing right wing nature of these skeptics has driven me away from them. There is no exact moment that i realized i was wrong, it was a slow build up over time and it wasnt something someone could explain to me in a rational argument that i could digest and internalize all at once. It took time, and i had to come to the realization myself. I just wanted to say thank you for being one of the many voices that helped me realized that alot of what these guys were saying was disingenuous scare mongering.
Thank you for giving us hope! I’m a feminist but I can see how anti sjws have an appeal,it’s a lot easier to demonize others than to self reflect. I’m guilty of this in many ways myself and am always trying to grow and learn.
I don't understand why you'd have to feel like a fool, what happened was outrageous no matter what "side" you were on. On one side, you'd only see people harassing a woman for allegedly having multiple affairs and on the other, you'd see many people you wanted to trust spit at your face and treating you like garbage no matter if you cared about Quinn or not. As a convinced socialist and an avid gamer (to the point where I wrote for a website and was invited to a whole lot of events by publishers), it was complicated. It wasn't the first time I encountered SJW, but even trying to explain what happened during those events would flag me as a right-wing women harasser deserving hate mail, doxxing and death threats on a weekly basis at least. When I tried to talk about the analyses of Sarkeesian on video games to devs or publishers, they would feel embarrassed because they often work a lot and need to cut down many things for a game to be out in time, giving all they have to make it the best experience possible from pure passion and the best intentions, just to be told by some people that their work promotes racism and sexism while they struggle with the publishers for them to make the games how they want. Seriously, the devs are treated like shit on a daily basis (bad working conditions + the old nerd stigma) and having this on top was a huge disappointment for quite a lot of those I met. There are huge structural issues in the gaming industry and I wish we could fix them. When people say we need more women in the industry, I'm like "Sure, why not ?"
When people say that we need to find a better way to make games, with decent work conditions like an appropriate staff and give up "Please the shareholders at all cost" system, I'm full on board.
In the end, I changed my way of checking things. I listen to the people who are experts in a field, then try to see if their sources hold up to the scientific method. I take an example, Peterson, the guy is an expert in his field, but he tells so many things that aren't backed by actual science that I can't trust him. First, he criticizes the methods of psychoanalysts by saying most of them only want to find sexual trauma in people's past to explain their disorders, then proceeds to suck on Jung's dick even though most of his work is pulled of his ass or he blabbers about the existence of God and Jesus as archetypes, maintaining a perpetual confusion between what is true and what is not. When I want to learn on feminism, I do the same and listen to experts in social sciences, then proceed to check their sources. But in the same way, I often see psychoanalysis papers as a foundation to the works they claim are science. It makes them untrustworthy to me. I have to check on other sources to find something that doesn't rely on pseudo-science, but that rules out many people as untrustworthy when I'm looking for facts, even though I want to agree on the idea that we should be treated with more equity.
Don't give up on skepticism as a whole because of the recent trend of youtube skeptics saying terrible things in the last few years. There are plenty of skeptics who don't do that, like Rebecca Watson and Skeptics Guide to the Universe (where Watson worked for many years), and a bunch more. Those are the two main ones I follow (I started following Watson personally after she left SGU), but SGU talks about others all the time if you're looking for more.
Nothing wrong with atheism and skepticism, just ignore the online community of people trying to make themselves look good by picking soft targets and trivial issues, and apply actual skepticism to the alt right. hbomberguy, contrapoints et al are much more skeptical than the likes of Sargon.
@@medexamtoolsdotcom bad b8 m8
I love the smattering of ash and collection of coins on your desk. Makes me feel much better about my own smattering of ash and collection of coins
Dear god how did I ever think Thunderf00t was smart when it came to this stuff
possibly because you were watching his videos instead of a clown lying about them.
Why do these tools always think that women disagreeing with each other is "feminism eating itself muahahaha"?
I guess it's easy for them to find contradictions when you think the other side is a robot Hive Mind...
Gee, I don't know, maybe because it is? Maybe you should tell your fellow feminists how they aren't a hive mind because they clearly didn't get the memo.
I don't think you quite understand what a hive mind is, my dude...
+hemanownsyou Yeah, because disagreeing with one's ideological group internally OBVIOUSLY means said ideology is broken. It's not as if continuing discussion and debate is necessary or anything in order for ideologies to evolve and prosper...
Because anti-fems think that all feminists are part of a collective hive mind, and any sort of descent is tantamount to a wrench in the gears.
@@Havarti_Samebito feminism is not a hive mind, unlike the so called "rational" community
Even his fans want him to stop talking about Anita Sarkeesian.
Imagine when they saw this video in their sub boxes:
"Ah, finally! Thunderf00t's gotten back to not talking about Anita! Let's see what he has to say about Ghostbusters."
"Remember when Anita Sarkeesian-"
"FUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKK!!!!!"
DewMan001 - I’ve been subbed to him since 2007. OG watcher. I never watched his Anita videos over the years, but a few. I even agree that Anita is a grifter whose critiques of video games are banal feminism 101, that she is a moral fanatic whose criticisms are inconsistent and trivial. But I’d rather just ignore her. She has 30k followers on twitter. If she didn’t get all this attention, she’d be even more irrelevant than she is now.
It was so annoying, but enlightening into what type of person Thunderf00t is
Maserati7200 it’s not even that the ideas she’s communicating are incorrect, but that she frames them and supports them with very weak reasoning. Tooltime’s response to her series highlights why this is is the case. It’s a framing issue where she fails to fully contextualize the content she’s criticizing.
Yes, and apparently even the ones with entirely vague and pretentious critiques of Sarkeesian want him to stop, as evidenced here.
I didn't even know about his obsession with feminism when I first encountered his channel. I subscribed because of the science videos and the ones debunking stuff like Solar Roadways. Those are genuinely good in my opinion.
Just to defend his "malformed question" response, I think I know what he's saying and it's a good point. There's no answer to that question he was asked. It's not possible to say with absolute certainty that there is no "god", because proving a negative is impossible outside of certain contexts. The burden of proof is on the person who claims something exits, not the person who challenges that claim. It's a bad question that frames the discussion in the opposite way it should be framed.
And I hope I'll never have to defend anything about this guy ever again.
No. Thunderf00t literally answered "no" to that question. Hbomberguy edited that out, and instead showed his response after the guy then repeated the question to him. Thunderf00t gave the second answer because the other guy was trying to get him to say something he could pretend was a gotcha and then jerk himself off over the idea he, the creationist nutjob, proved science wrong.
And that's basically the entire problem with this. Dislike Thunderf00t all you want, there are plenty of things you can criticize him for, but this entire video is a fraudulent hit piece.
@@seigeengine Yeah, even if that was his initial response, bad at debates =/= wrong.
@@vibaj16 Additionally
Criticizing a "feminist" or "feminist work" =/= being a misogynist
"Busting used to make us all feel good" is HILARIOUS.
Ironically, the guy from the CBSN clip was trying to make a point about how racism has a power element (essentially, "we're all subconsciously prejudiced bc that's what society teaches us, but you can't be 'racist' against white people because they're the ones in charge"), and right after he said it another guy was like "don't say that because someone's going to use it as a sound bite to misinterpret what you're saying."
And lo, it was in fact turned into a sound bite and misinterpreted.
Racism is hatred of race, power doesn't enter into it. If I had a black boss and if I was racist I'd still hate them.
The guy in question is Frank Luntz. His job is to figure out how to make Republican racist policies sound more palitable to a larger audience. A couple of years ago, he told them to stop using the word "capitalism" because it had become so toxic.
@@Toasty667 What you described is bigotry. Racism is systemic; it involves creating rules and policy based on one's race. Racism does have power element to it.
@@Toasty667 when racist city planners make a highway to seperate predominantly black neighborhoods with predominantly white ones or build bridges by black neighborhoods that are perpously too low for school buses to pass under, that is the power of segregating black people from better education and resources. Black people not being alowed to get government backed loans in the reconstruction effect their decendants by not having a family owned house for their kids to live in or sell for college money. Its structural and hard to change and hard for people to see even when people's veiws change on how slurs are bad. The racist decisions made by people in power in the past effect people in the present unless perpously changed.
@@MiketheNerdRanger Except what you're describing is SYSTEMIC racism, which is a subset of racism, which is itself a subset of bigotry. While many forms of racism are created by systems, systemic racism is by no means the ONLY form of racism, and describing an irrational hatred of the general group of people with the most power in a society as anything but is misleading at best. It's as though you've classified all non-human mammals as solely "Kingdom Animalia" because they're not the most populous mammals on Earth. It is both colloquially and academically incorrect language.
Edit: Also I definitely said the word "racism" too many times and now this paragraph doesn't scan. Goddammit.
All this obsessive hate on Anita by these anti-feminist guys actually makes me wanna watch her videos lolol.
As long as you don't just watch them and believe them in a vacuum of other information. Like when she insists that being a woman is living life on "hard" mode for instance. She's just a smug ignoramus that assumes men have everything so easy because she has no experience being a man.
medexamtoolsdotcom you have no experience being a woman. Guess we’ll have to look at the data.
@@MarchingGrrl that's kinda the issue, is that it's really difficult to see how hard someone else's life is. Everyone by default sees their day to day as harder than someone else's, because they don't experience their day to day
The funny thing is that her videos aren't very radical at all. Her most famous video series was about Damsel in Distress being overused in video games and she says stuff like "just because a game uses this trope doesn't mean it's sexist" and "just because a game is sexist doesn't mean it doesn't have value". It's comical that so many men got pissed off by those videos.
@@TheMellowFilmmaker Another thing about that is that she discusses at length many things gamers have complained about in the forms of memes before she came along (like the trope of even high level women's armor basically just being a bikini made of metal, or even less than that). Most of the things she talks about are similar to this. But since she's 1: a woman, and 2: coming at these things from a feminist perspective, her detractors HAVE to disagree with her. Because agreeing with her would make them quasi-feminists, and we cant have that, now can we?!
Watching this back in 2020 and it's hilarious how you had to pretend to be bald back then
Omg I forgot Thunderf00t existed and that he sounds like he's choking on a snake
my god that section on Anita is some "how can Al Gore be against carbon emissions when he himself is made of carbon" ass shit
"how can anita speak against gender signifiers when she herself exists in a society that genders her expression and actions by assigning meaning to signifiers"
nothing gets past this guy, except creationists apparently
+Niel Jacoby Al Gore, you hypocrite! LMAO.
Niel Jacoby "Genders het expression and actions by asssigning meaning to signifiers"
Wat.
If you quite literally speak out that gender signifiers are used to oppress women... and that women should eschew those completely... and then you still use those gender signifiers to look pretty and hot for an advantage while speaking... you are... a hypocrite...
The argument works fine...
I know this comment is 7 years old, but... like... what? Your comment makes no sense...
"that gif of her eating popcorn makes my blood boil" oh god that's just so bizarre, I can't stop laughing about it. Any way I really liked this video and I'm going to check out more of your content. Thanks :)
i think my favorite part about the whole meltdown this film caused is that like, even if the cast was men like all these fucks wanted, it still would have been shit? this film was destined to be garbage from the very beginning, no matter who starred in it.
Its so sad that nowadays this 'replacing man by woman' IS REAL.
Even this c-section here called it out as imaginary,
and they're not wrong (as expected of a Hbomberguy-comment-section!),
BUT:
Now its Real!!!
How sad is that?!
I mean, my god: We live in a Parody posing as a Real Planet, dont we?!
Holy fluff... i dont know if it was like that,
but nowadays, Wokeness and stupid Virtual Signaling does
swap People, like Indiana Jones,
and does destroy entire Franchises,
including Doctor Who and Star Trek and Star Wars.
The Woke were made fun of by this comment-section,
but now it has become kinda real! Whoaaa.
@@slevinchannel7589 Doctor Who is fantastic right now and has always featured primarily female companions. Star Trek has always been extremely diverse. Star Wars has also always had a main female character. Stop pretending these franchises never featured women before when they clearly did.
@@meowntown69 Yeah, problem is: thats just youre objectively wrong opinion, fueled by misconceptions or other things.
Doctor Who is in fact right now extremly bad; objectively so. And i mean when i use the word objectively. You cant argue with the losing fans without embarassing-yourself with such laughable, laughable arguments like 'ITS THE FANS FAULT! They dont like the amazing stuff we serve-up?! It CANT BE US who's the PROBLEM! Thats not physically posssssible!!!!"
Doctor Who was never as bad as it is now and people know. You not knowing does not change Reality. Youre subjective idea and youre misconception that those burning franchises are somehow 'Epic as ever' does not change the real Situation. And people like you, who cant even look the factual facts in the eyes, dont have a place when it comes to fixing those problems. Cause those that cant accept theres a massive amount of problems; enough for HOUR LONG ESSAYS to be made again and again (just like with The Last Airbender Movie;
its LITERALLY the same situation...) cant sit down and help with the Solution/s.
@@meowntown69 It bares repeating:
1) You misunderstanding that theres a problem or not (or a thousand, known to a billion people) is not changing Reality cause youre not a Reality-Bender.
Countless Million know that Star Trek and Star Wars and Doctor Who and Pokemon are in giant Peril - you not knowing this does not help.
2) Theres hour-long Essays.
In fact, the BIGGEST AND MOST VIEWED VIDEO on Doctor Who and the VERY FIRST THING coming up when you write 'Doctor Who' into CZcamss searchbar without any specifications,
is a Video named 'The Fall of Doctor Who'.
You can either watch it and see for yourself or you do what a lot of unhealthy people did: See the title, JUDGE, and leave some embarassing comment, showing they dont have any piece of Integrity, so they make up their Opinion without even watching the video, which is crin-ey af.
Those hour-long Essays about doctor who, by actual Experts, exist. So go and watch them or dont, but stop making false claims; thanks.
@@slevinchannel7589 1. you use the word objectively too much. 2. no piece of art is objectively bad. our opinions on art are formed by our experiences. some people may hate the new who and some people may love it. you can't just say "doctor who is objectively bad" and think you've won
The giddy, cackling way HBguy laughs is infectious.
"Mummy always said I was a good boy, a handsome boy. But now I'm in my mid-thirties, all my relationships have failed, and I spend my evenings eating processed cheese slices straight from the packet while weeping into a manly glass of bourbon.
Now, let me explain how Anita Sarkeesian is directly responsible".
""Daddy always said I was a good girl, a beautiful girl,. But now I'm in my mid-thirties, all my relationships have failed, and I spend my evenings eating processed cheese slices straight from the packet while weeping into my 13 cats".
Now, let me explain how Thunderfoot is directly responsible"."
How does what I just said make you feel?
@@DIVAD291 When did Anita Sarkessian make dozens of videos about Thunderfoot? He's the one whose stalking her, aside from reporting death and rape threats to the police, she couldn't give two shits about any gamergaters.
@@DIVAD291it's not happened the other way around, Anita isn't actively going after him as much as he is for her
@@DIVAD291 what do they all have against cats seriously ??
@@DIVAD291 lollll youre def the type harry is making fun of
Thunderf00t can't make a single video without mentioning Anita Sarkeesian. I'm being pretty literal here. Almost every video he makes mentions Anita Sarkeesian. If I didn't know any better, I would say he likes her or something.
I honestly think he has a crush on her.
um no he doesn't, jesus do you people even watch him
+MOONIE
I think he realised that his videos on bad science was gaining him more viewers and patreon supporters, and so he focused more and more on those things, while at the same time not commenting as much on politics.
Can’t believe I actually used to unironically watch that guy, I’ve become the very thing I swore to destroy
Fell in love with Thunderf00t when I saw his busted series but this video really opened my eyes to critically think about him instead of idolizing. Thank you hbomberguy!
You both need a lesson in not being a bunch of ignorant nutjobs.
1. Go watch the videos in question instead of listening to Harris lie and shit talk.
2. Thunderf00t hasn't changed.
3. He didn't "leave the skeptical community," he explicitly disavowed them after they became a far-right vile cess pit. On that topic...
4. Y'all likely weren't around far enough back to know this, but the YT skeptic community was originally pretty left-leaning, and largely emerged in the promotion of atheism, and the rejection of the Christian dominance of American society, as well as the right-wing elements that pushed it. Mind you, we're talking a while ago. Like, Bush-era long ago.
5. In fact, some of Thunderf00t's earliest videos were criticisms of Bush and the war on terror.
If you idolize anybody you are the problem. It’s healthy to loom up to people but all people are flawed.
I remember when I was a edgy 12 year old who just found out atheism was an option, and watching thunderfoots videos.
same here, I was older tho. Man I'm ashamed now.
Duhya Idk if I was 'edgy' or not but I too remember those days, thankfully even back then (he was just starting to get into his anti feminist shit) I didn't much care for him so I left pretty quickly.
Stale Bagelz
I remember when I was 13 and was basically alt right and I just laugh at how stupid I was
Jeremiah Michael don’t worry, only 13 year olds are alt-right. It’s like a phase you have to go through.
They progress through high school, start meeting girls and switch to libertarian because it’s less intrinsically misogynistic and helps them get more tasty babes.
bruh, that was me only at 24 years old.
Wow, going by some of the comments going on here, I have reason to fear for the comprehension skills of the human race. But if most of them are Old Thunder's followers I'm not really surprised. I'm glad I grew out of my angry atheist phase.
What angry phase are you in now?
... video a* liar* and ...
three question marks is excessive
an ellipses only uses three dots
you know like it'd be a debate if y'all were able to debate, my man. Your comment is utter tomfoolery.
A few things I can take comfort about the rampancy of the angry atheism/anti-feminism on the internet: One, a large amount of these people are just kids, like, teenagers. Sure, there are plenty of new atheists and anti-feminists are adults, but let's face it, as teenagers, we don't always have the greatest reasoning skills. So, I think eventually a large portion of these people would grow up and realize that their views are just bullshit, especially with feminism. Two, I think it's safe to say internet anti-feminists are only relevant on the internet. Like, seriously, the only time when I saw any anti-feminist try to do anything outside the internet was Sargon's petition to ban social justice classes at universities. So, don't worry too much about Thunderf00t and other similar channels.
Peter Cahill Prepare to be disappointed then. Also, glad you aren't condescending or anything. Clearly, feminism and religion is the superior lifestyle.
Navlock I'm atheist and I know the new atheist thing is generally bullshit. Trust me, I was one of y'all once, as well as anti-feminist, and everytime I look back on what I believed, I just cringed.
What was funny is when Thunderfoot made a video criticizing and calling out the Charlotville alt-right demonstrates as being fascist and he was surprised when he got ratio'd HARD.
"Hang on, my personal beliefs are being demonstrated by others openly? Oh no no no no no."
Does he not recognize his own audience?
Thunderf00t has never represented right-wing thought. He's always been clearly left-wing.
The fact so many fascists didn't realize this is really more a sign of how dim-witted they are.
I'm left wing, and I initially looked into the original alt-right, and it was started originally to be an alternative to the mainstream right wing in the US, but a lot of those white supremacist types actually co-opted it and essentially everyone abandoned the label again.
There were plenty of people at Charlottesville who weren't white supremacist, that still thought it was about being that alternative right. That there were black, jewish, etc. alt-righters at the time should show you that.
But the media narrative ran with the white supremacists all the way.
I think it's really wholesome that at the end alternate universe hbomberguy says "take only the important stuff" and then proceeds to take shaun to save(?) him.
I'm so glad you exist to make a proper filter to laugh at Tfoot's shit without having to actually sit through it.
***** I'm sorry, could you repeat that? All I heard were crying baby noises. I did get the impression this crying baby is incapable of comprehend the irony it spews though.
"Equality is a lie" says the guy who's never been on the receiving end of bigotry ever.
I'm a afro-descendant latino, bisexual.
Equality is a lie.
Marshall Mead
Not sure if poe
+WALKINGonaSPIRAL
HAHAHA this can't be real. I've just stumbled into the biggest fucking moron on the internet. You don't even understand what irony is. The guy asked a legitimate question: "so letting other people think for you and copying they'r opinion is a good thing?" There is literally nothing ironic about that. I love how you have to make completely false claims about things to even make a response.
You're being spoon-fed opinions by hbomberguy. You don't even watch Thunderf00t's videos and yet you have opinions on them. Then again, they're not even your opinions, they're hbomberguy's opinions.
Thanks, I needed a laugh today.
I ship Anita and Thunder.
+Combinemon So much disappointing angry sex in that ship
I get you're kidding but this made me think of those weirdos who ship Jessica Jones with the Purple Man. Eugh.
I ship Thunderfzerozerot and his tear-stained pillow.
Llamamall To hell with Davis, I ship myself with decadent sluts
bagser1 Where can I order you?
Thunderf00t's science and astronomy content is very good, he should stick to that. He is as reactive as the chemicals he works with.
You're a real jizz-clot, you know that?
@@seigeengine "someone should tell you losers that you're actually supposed to respond with a counter argument, not middle school level insults" - literally you, replying to someone else 11 days ago.
But apparently 3 weeks ago you thought middle school insults were fine.
Look man, I get going through the comments and replying to all the comments you don't like, I'm doing it to you right now.
But at least be consistent in your positions, criticizing someone for something you did 2 weeks earlier just a few comments down isn't really helping with anyone taking you seriously.
I remember when I saw his video when it first came out and was like “…it’s a picture.”. In retrospect…well I feel the same way.
So I take it you don't remember anything he said in the video?
If you focus most of your online efforts towards dissing 1 person, you're not a scientist, you're a bully and/or a troll.
I love your channel, hbomberguy. Your videos are literally the only bastion of sanity in the sea of Reddit and 4chan dudebros. Please never change.
+txhm2699637742 It's kinda like brogressive... It means a guy who only claims to care about things that involve straight white dudes, and that usually hate women or hate on people that don't hate on women.
+Mason Black (and make more videos)
+Mason Black Eh, "Dudebro" is just, like... some kind of stereotypical jock or fratboy type.
"Brogressive" is someone who claims to be liberal but only really supports liberal policies that benefit him (legal weed and free college!)
there are pretty decent places on reddit (r/fuckthealtright r/EnoughTrumpSpam ect.)
/r/gamerghazi too, making fun of the ridiculous crybaby gamergaters.
I watched the guys videos about busting scam products for a while until youtube put me onto his random rants about femenism. Why do so many youtubers turn out to be dickheads. At least I have this channel to watch still.
because the reality is that you're the dickhead who decides you hate a demographic instead of listening to what they say?
im 7 years late to the party but its never to late to make note that "thunderf00t" really sounds like it could be the name of a character in warrior cats (the book about cats. the cats do war or smt idk)
I think Thunderf00t was rejected by Sarkeesian in college or something and didn't get over it since. That's the only explanation I can think of for this guy's obsession with her.
I think it's something more general.
Thunderf00t always gets really cross when bullshit gets money, because he's a research scientist and it breaks his heart seeing money going down the drain when he knows he can put it to a really good use. He's made a lot of videos on pseudo-science and how much attention and money it gets.
In the case of Anita Sarkeesian it got the better of him, not only because she got hundreds of thousands of dollars, but because she was using video games and pop culture, giving the sense of no effort being put in.
@@MrJason005 But so what? People make money from CZcams and funding platforms all the time. Anita used a lot of that money on making those videos, making appearances at conventions to discuss the portrayal of women in media in general, etc. If she has a lot of surplus money and she spends it on personal, non-related things to the cause of feminism then that's fine. She's human, it's a job to her, she has personal interests. No one is being coerced into paying her money, her supporters willingly, with their free will, give her money, as does she make money through ad revenue like every other CZcamsr. You can disagree with her points all you want, but I just don't get this argument. She's making a living off this. She's not a charity organisation. Thunderf00t just comes across as overly obsessed and creepy with each relentless video on Sarkeesian he releases.
he hasn't really made any more videos on anita, he stopped years ago
the peak of it was when she got his twitter account suspended, i think that was the catalyst for the endless stream of anita videos
By that logic he got rejected by Elon Musk 10 times harder.
No Tea Zone Can you link me some of those studies?
Thunderfoot is living proof that being an expert in one field does not prevent you from being a complete idiot about other things.
+calluml314 True, I think it's called Ben Carson Syndrome
+calluml314 Did you watch the video?
Is he even an expert in something? I tried looking for his "rich" contributions to the world of science, but couldn't find it because of all his anti-Anita stuff. Finally, when I found some, it turned out he once did a thing with water and sugar. And it seems he was only an assistant there. Doesn't sound like a great expert to me...
+Арсений Брилёв He's done some physics work and published a number of papers, most notably some stuff on alkali metals.
I don't know the full extent, though. Whatever he does in the lab, he's a fucking idiot when he opens his mouth on anything else, be it religion or social sciences.
***** Though not nearly as egregious, I'd also point to Neil deGrasse Tyson and some of his remarks on, say, history.
its amazing how many heads anita sarkeesian lives in rent free
It's amazing how many losers would rather blindly suck her off than actually be exposed to criticisms of her.
@@seigeengine I’m not sucking her off. But whatever happened during gamergate was not an example of “being exposed to criticisms”
Just want to jump in here years later (maybe I'm bored in a pandemic) and say that ThunderF00t appears to have successfully backed away from the edge and not fallen into the "skeptic anti-feminist" pit of doom. Good on him. He was getting lots of "engagement" for those videos, so the operant conditioning (positive reinforcement) must have been difficult to overcome.
Its so sad that nowadays this 'replacing man by woman' IS REAL.
Even this c-section here called it out as imaginary,
and they're not wrong (as expected of a Hbomberguy-comment-section!),
BUT:
Now its Real!!!
How sad is that?!
I mean, my god: We live in a Parody posing as a Real Planet, dont we?!
Holy fluff... i dont know if it was like that,
but nowadays, Wokeness and stupid Virtual Signaling does
swap People, like Indiana Jones,
and does destroy entire Franchises,
including Doctor Who and Star Trek and Star Wars.
The Woke were made fun of by this comment-section,
but now it has become kinda real! Whoaaa.
@@slevinchannel7589 If you are doing a bit here then I am sorry for responding, but...
When you look at the stuff you listed there, ASK yourself: ist it inherently bad that there we're some women in that movie or show? Why do you think that? Would replacing them with men would make all the problems that you think these properties had disapear?
@@wulle8509 Sorry, i literally dont understand youre comment.
Can you explain what you mean?
No, i am not 'doing a bit' wahtever that means, i am just reminding people of some known facts.
@@wulle8509 My Point was: Times have changed and in a giant stroke of irony: People who were totally right calling out b.s. have now to correct their previous Statements CAUSE the joke has evolved and mutated.
@@slevinchannel7589 You said wokeness and virtue signaling swaps people today and I wanted to know what your problem was. Why is it bad, that Doctor Who has a women in its lead role?
And about the doing a bit, I am Not a nativ speaker. I have heard this said but never seen it written down. I was asking, if you we're making a joke
I fully expect the skull to appear in every shot of every video from now on.
I definitely think one of the reasons Thunderf00t didn't like The Sarkeesian Effect was because he saw a bit too much of himself in it... and I don't just mean the interview he did for them.
It's like somewhere in his subconscious he realised, "This is how sloppily put together and weirdly obsessive my content must appear."
Thunderf00t literally sounds like someone doing a parody of the people who griped about the all female "Ghostbusters" reboot.
The difference is he's making intelligent points.
Meanwhile, in this video, Harris attacks strawmen and tries to insult his way to a criticism.
*Cries: "I'm so rational"*
I almost spit out my bite of pizza.
#WheresAnitasBees