Why do they keep saying universities are corrupting “children”? University students are all consenting adults who CHOSE to take these courses. So stupid
@@tylerburney8576 THIS!! these people think they are like.... courageous and heroic for agreeing with centuries of traditional ideals that aren't going away anytime soon. it's not "brave" at all to be misogynistic, racist, capitalist, homophobic, etc., because those are definitely still the prevailing ideals in Western society.
Why is Carl so terrified of people with dyed hair and body modifications? I don't remember Orwell mentioning the tyranny of pastel hair colors in 1984.
In know it's a late response but the legit answer is that they are afraid of any woman who does something for herself and not for the male gaze. "I am not attracted to women with pink hair and pierced eyebrows therefore pink hair and pierced eyebrows scare me as they signify that this woman is not trying to attract me as a mate".
When attempting to talk to an actual feminist, not a cardboard cut-out, Sargon starts robotic spouting empty pre-prepared phrases and buzzwords like some kind of phoney, intellectually impoverished career politician. Guess that's what he meant by "over-prepared". Also, seeing Sargon laugh at a description of sexual assault pretty much says everything that can be said about what kind of person he is.
hello carl, my name is John Universities, and i'm just contacting you to let you know i've received your detailed and convincing letter. i will get back to you with a response shortly
Lockheed Martin has been advertising how woke and "progressive" they are for a while now. Because destabilizing other countries is A-OK as long as rich women get to do it too
Yeah... I've had my share of trauma, and my sense of gallows humor has helped me through a lot of it; I'm able to find humor in _most_ of the horrific stuff in these videos. But seeing him _laugh_ at her description of a rape was too much even for me. But then I recovered, realizing he was probably laughing just because she said the word "semen." He's basically a teenage boy who can't help but giggle any time someone mentions anything related to sex, genitals, or butts. Sargon is probably also into misinterpretations of Darwinism, so I'm sure he could appreciate my belief that people who refuse to mature past the age of 14 should be sterilized (against their will) to prevent them from holding back the progress of humanity.
@@oo-ld8xu Some prank CZcamsr chud from England who received flak for pinching peoples’ asses “as a prank”. Because SA is hilarious, right?! Sargon was like “it’s just a joke. It’s okay to violate people as a prank”. It’s so fucked.
@oo-ld8xu old “prank” CZcamsr who uploaded videos of him just straight up sexually assaulting random women in public by groping them. As a “joke”. Also groomed and molested underage girls as far as I remember.
That's the game these right wing pundits play. They set up moral standards and dont follow them, and then point the finger at you and say, "Oh my look at how unreasonable *you* are," while they're still being unreasonable towards you.
Although I really do not like Kristi Winters either. She always seems too condescending... have all people ever forgotten how to try and convince someone of their point? This discussion with Sargon is probably the most likeable I have ever seen her though, to be fair, so maybe I got a false idea of her character from the "questions for... men" or something like that... video. Cause her points in that video were just... let's say she is not gonna convince anyone with that xD
@@Zweyrohn When it comes to women in debate, the well is already poisoned (you probably already know that fallacy by now, but just in case search for "poisoning the well"). The bias against them has already been internalized thanks to overt and covert messaging meant to downplay womens' intelligence and competence. I am not saying that you are biased. But I do think that it is something all of us should consider when we find ourselves not liking a certain woman and the points she's making, but can't articulate on why.
@@FeministCatwoman I kinda know what you mean, but I can tell you why I do not like her. In the videos I habe seen of her, and I know that it ain't many, she talked down to people on the opposing side of the argument. It may well be that she didn't mean that, but it came across that way, specifically in the video I mentioned.
Jeremias Astorga The intros for the two of them are incredibly telling to anyone with a brain. "Kristi: PhD, involved in numerous activisty feminist stuff and contributes to numerous organizations in pursuit of equality." "Sargon: a guy who makes CZcams videos."
@@Omegon8536 I guess next time you need to ha a surgery done on you, you just go and get axed by the crackhead at the nearest gas station, since college education is just indoctrination.
Why aren't these people letting me express my opinion, and not letting me suppress their opinions???? Hypocrite much??????? Edit- This is unintentionally the most meta comment I've ever written
that lady talking to sargon has my whole respect, i hope she knew she was heading into a conversation with a brick and did it to cultivate her patience, thats all that dude is good for
Her name is Kristi Winters and she handled herself VERY well against a petulant galaxy brain that wouldn't even let her answer the question he was demanding she answer.
It would he a shame if a string of non crimes in OK occurred against rape apologists, specifically men who support this guy and think hes great. I would feel many feels for them, what with them finding it so funny.
It seems to be a very common issue amongst the right wing. They project so hard they are like a focussed beam of pure ignorant hatred burning through the wall.
"Feminism is Orwell's nightmare come to life," Sargon. ...Has this guy...actually read 1984? Part of Winston's interest in Julia was her expression of bodily autonomy against the sexually repressive society. Just...If you're going to cite famous dystopian fiction...maybe...try to demonstrate a basic understanding of it?
I know, it's so frustrating when antifeminists compare feminism to big gov in 1984 especially considering the multiple places Orwell makes points in line with feminism in it.
@@absolutezero6190 i kinda think that's the thing that he said too . julia said And do you know what I’m going to do next? I’m going to get hold of a real woman’s frock from somewhere and wear it instead of these bloody trousers. I’ll wear silk stockings and high-heeled shoes! In this room I’m going to be a woman, not a Party comrade she literally wants to fight the patriarchy and sexually repressive government . you know something that sargon and his pals are against . pjw calls women sluts . bps says women destroy civilization with exactly this behavior
Julia was in no way a feminist icon. Sure, she was sex positive but literally everything else was up to Winston. He kept his sexist views (also, he wanted to rape and kill Julia in the beginning of the book) She wasn't interested in being a revolutionairy She fell asleep while Winston read The Book O'brien completely ignored her while they joined the Brotherhood. She only spoke up to say she loved Winston and didn't want to be separated from him. Speaking of which, their love was never explained. They only had sex in their meetings. Winston's ralationship with O'Brien got more development. I like the message of 1984. Julia was just terribly written.
I never watched Sargon specifically but I watched a lot of armored skeptic, shoe, and Chris ray gun which like wasn't great for highschool me post gamer gate
For me, it was Think Before You Sleep and Dr. Shaym who started the embarassing anti-SJW phase of my life 😬 They complain all the time about the "woke agenda" and "radical left" indoctrinating people, when they basically make bank off of people's ignorance and impressionable young minds.
The irony of the cartoon is staggering. "These people are demanding that institutions get rid of things that 'offend' them. So now I'm demanding that institutions get rid of things that offend me."
This is Sargons entire stick though. He sees an article demanding the Mens rights activists to be called a terrorist group by the government (an idea just crazy btw) and instead of defending the MRA or rising above such nonsense, he basically commits the exact same "crime" by demanding feminism to be called a mental illness. I do not know why he is filled to the brim with just... so much hate... I hope they do not invite him to next myth con, he is giving discussion and reason a bad rap... people like him only serve to radicalise an already bad situation.
I know this comment is old but also the redundancy of depicting "big gov" and "big business" alongside the MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. Maybe if he had taken an actual sociology course instead of throwing darts at a board to guess what they're really about he'd know why that comic is an absolute joke
Did he seriously just laugh at a woman describing sexual assault because she said the word "semen"? Holy shit, his brain stopped developing at 13 didn't it?
Kristi really created a theoretical example where Sargon is the victim of a sexual assult, to put it in a way he can percieve and empathise with, aswell as showing that men can be victims,...and he just laughed.... and yet the dude continues to argue feminism is "man-hating" and wonders why feminists are fighting for sexual assult to be taken seriously. The guy himself doesnt even want to take it seriously.
This is the mental illness of being a content creator that has no talent other than provoking people. They can only escalate. They can't change their minds because they think debating is contest and not a search for the truth. They think compromise is tantamount to backpedalling.
The more I see and hear about Sargon, it really seems that much of his ideology stems from either an inability to empathise with other people (who don't look like him), or, an unwillingness to empathise with others. Plus, he's a bit of an idiot on top of that too. He rarely checks sources, his entire rhetoric consists of parroting right-wing talking points and dog whistling, and he rarely thinks things all the way through. Kind of like when he tried to join UKIP and run as a candidate before UKIP told him to f*** off for continually making rape jokes and being overtly racist. Like, when even UKIP kick you out for being too racist, and too much of a twat, maybe rethink what you're doing? But that's too much to ask for old Carl Benjamin.
Sargon of Akkad is a pundit in the same way that Lois Griffin from Family Guy is a piano instructor: you don't know shit, but as long as you're just one lesson ahead of your student, you'll appear as an authority.
The difference is Sargon just makes up things to know to seem like he's knowledgable. "You see they call these triple keys and when you press three keys at once you make a Triple Sound."
I actually just ran into someone on reddit who tried to convince me because I took a feminist stand point I was no better than a racist. When I asked how being a feminist made me a racist they veered off onto next informing me I was apart of a hive mind. All in all, it was a fun day on reddit. Now back to report to the Queen. Bzzt Bzzt
It's an actual tactic now where you just lambaste someone with 18 different wrong things without defending any of your points. Innuendo Studios did a great video on the subject talking about the tactics of the alt right. I believe it was called Never Play Defense.
I... I mean if you skipped to the last minute of the video where he talked about the petition you'll find that the point of it was to mimic what feminists have done. As they have gotten their extreme ideas into media discussions by the merit of having 50 000 signatures on a petition. So he could either use it as a way to get mainstream discussion on the topic or as way to make a point on the biases of mainstream British media outlets. Sargon is quite bad at debates from what I've seen from the one I've watched, and he seems lazy with going through studies and stuff. The fact that Hbomb tried to make the impression that Sargon expected universities to actually do something, makes Hbomb as disingenuous/lazy as Sargon, in this case. Tl;dr you've misunderstood his point and to an extent been mislead by Hbomb.
@Axel Andersson Cut the word salad and just say that you’re trying to pass this off as a troll because it mates your side look bad. Lazy excuse mate...
@@magicsteve5523 You're wrong and seemingly too lazy to read my comment I don't understand what about this there is to troll about. I watched the video, I mostly agree with it but I thing some things are disingenuous. I'm as much of a troll or a Nazi as you are censorious or believe in the violence pyramid. Everyone online isn't an extremist.
Sargon laughing in his chair while someone describes date rape to him is pretty disgusting. And you know what? She might not know why Obama referenced a "fake" statistic, but I'm pretty sure he's pretty capable of answering exactly what he found so funny right there.
If I were to give him a herculean amount of good will I'd say that he might be laughing at the "cliché" of a feminist bringing up rape in an argument. Kinda like how many laugh when some say that white people are oppressed. Probably not though
@@roguepsykerhaaker4813 No I think it‘s pretty obvious he wasn‘t actively engaging in the scene. I actually don‘t think it‘s a golden strategy when debating someone who thinks they‘re in a ‚war‘ opposite side against you, trying to make them sympathize with your ‚side‘. Maybe could work if you were to involve his daughter/children but that would be kind of cheap to and I think he was to closed off to any empathetic arguments at this point. That‘s probably one of the problems with these kind of »debates«.
@@vegan.3176 Maybe but I think that's really just a problem of Sargon in general being "closed off to empathetic arguments" in general. I've never seen or heard a moment from Carl that made me think "no he definitely cares sincerely" about anything other than things that fuck with him personally. Its all been like paper thin fappy concern trolling at best outside of that
@@roguepsykerhaaker4813 feminists talking about grape is not the same as white people claiming they're oppressed. do you have a brain at all? how do you compare these two and not see how insane it is?
Despite agreeing with EVERYTHING in this video, i wanna also stress: 'The evil hate on White Straight Males'... has become real... No kidding. Its very obvious from current Hollywood and you probably know the whole Issue under the term 'Woke'. Yeah, replacing all White Male Actors with something else and even humiliating former Protagonists, who are Male, so they look worse than ever (pi--ing off all Fans with it) is totally a Strategy right now implored. Entire Franchises burn, like Doctor Who and Star Trek and its literal Insanity that it all semi-mirrors what those N-jobs think of whoever-they-disagree-with-and-some-more... My Point: We live in a Parody of a Parody. Its name is Earth.
@@slevinchannel7589 so wait doctor who is sexist now because the main character isn't a man anymore? Have you actually watched the damn show? It's been progressive since the fucking 60s
I mean, the replies speak for themselves, no self awareness. Don't like, don't watch is so hard to do apparently, beause it is and these people don't like to admit that.
@@razi_man Person 1: I don't like this movie Person 2: You can't say that if you haven't watched it Person 1: *watches movie* Person 1: I don't like this movie Person 2: If you don't like it, don't watch it Person 1: ... Person 1: *Confused screaming*
@Slevin Channel what the fuck are you smoking lmao. Hollywood has white-washed roles in media for the last century. The excuse that white men are being replaced comes from the few projects that trade diversity for bonus points with minority demographics. The rest you are now seeing are from minority creators that are finally being allowed to tell stories outside of the white male experience in fairer, more balanced markets, and with Video on Demand, these stories stand a much better chance of being seen & praised, futher increasing the acceptance of outside viewpoints for general consumers. Blaming Doctor Who's dogshit last few years has nothing to do with Jodie playing the character and EVERYTHING to do with Chris Chibnall, the Showrunner, pushing for more American style plot threads, presentation and standard Stan-baiting melodrama, while the BBC reduced the budget year-on-year and gave in to the right-wing "women bad feminism bad" dogwhistling to avoid losing more & more people to Online-only streaming over paying for the TV License. Ask yourself why you're not saying anything bad about series 1-4 under Russell T. Davies. You know, the famously Gay showrunner that has come back to the show to correct the nosedive Chibnall put it in? He gave the women intelligent roles rather than just the screaming, clueless companions of old, and cast people who actually represent the diversity of the UK, especially London. Meanwhile, Chibnall put a woman in a sexy Cyberman bikini suit while Showrunner head writer of Torchwood and used mostly white actors in a show that's set in Cardiff, a city that's been notoriously diverse for the last near 50 years. You're living in a parody of real life, it's called "4Chan"
11:11 I'd like to see Sargon try to defend this. It's not like someone told a joke about rape even, this is an actual description of the act and he's cracking a chuckle at it. I don't think I'll be watching his content ever again.
i think the part where he laughed exactly as she finished saying it suggests that's the case. i don't think you care about how bad a person sargon is though, since you can obviously see what he is and defend him anyway, so why are you even bothered?
I've been grossed out by them from day 1. Some of them can be entertaining to watch though.. but Sargon is particularly boring with his hour-long uneducated uploads. It's good to see Hbomb emerging as a voice of reason from the other side. The worst of them are the ones who upload a static image and rant over the top of it. There's about 100 of them, they just upload a cartoon drawing of an animal (deer, kangaroo, bear, etc.) and rant for 20 minutes about Anna Sarkisian or whatever's popular in their weekly witch hunt. It's sad that people buy into it, I wish their audience would actually use Google and check this stuff, instead of immediately accepting it all as fact.
Former Sargon fan here: The fact that Sargon still has a ton of fans despite everything going against him and nothing being anything like he says they are horrifies me
Damn, how'd that happen? Not making fun of you I'm genuinely curious. I once thought Ben Sharpie-o was smart because his strawmen were really easy for my inexperienced teenage brain to absorb And then I met real people and realized that human beings aren't actually shitty on average.
@@ShitkidOfJamrocknot OP, but also former Sargon fan. It was a multifactored series of events that led me out of the all right pipeline, but one of the big things that stands out is seeing what a bunch of con men with no principles these people were during the 2016 election. All their talk about liberalism went out the window as they pivoted to support an openly fascist candidate.
@@ShitkidOfJamrockprobably he was a teenager with typical issues of teenagers in this age - various insecurities, lack of social communications, underdeveloped personality et cetera. This is, i assume, also a reason, why he is a FORMER fan of Sargon. He just growed up.
@@ShitkidOfJamrock Not OP, but also a ex-fan of Sargon. What happened can actually be traced back to the Atheism movement on CZcams. From there, these atheist CZcamsrs ended up being anti-SJWs back when it was Chanty Binx, Anita Sarkeesian and Buzzfeed's Dear White People videos that were big. From that point onward it was like a pot slowly coming to a boil, but I didn't notice until one day Sargon said something that I couldn't say "agree to disagree" to and upon realizing that he could be so wrong on something so easy to not be wrong on, I distanced myself from all his and those around him's stuff until I had a clear idea of what my own actual thoughts were and I didn't return.
Half the boys in my sophomore class are his fans Which as a closeted trans girl makes me feel very safe and accepted in a “free speech” society with no problems where women are treated equally 😃
I like how a lot of those comments on the petition say "I'm pro free speech" followed in the same comment by "we should take their right to express their opinions"
Kris Nelson I'm about 85 percent sure that Sargon probably only googled the definition instead of actually reading into what makes something a mental Illness
Yes, because feminists are all "retarded" (egh even typing that leaves a bad taste in my mouth) idiots, even though they regularly cite more sources, have more facts to back up their claims, and generally, better editing, sound quality, joke writing, etc.
Sacred, Nothing is Which doesn't mean all feminists support pedophilia. Also, the other side does too. A Britebart writer was outed for pedophilia towards young men, and multiple people from the right supported him. I, am, of course, not going to say that all members of the right support pedophilia, because that would be wrong and hypocritical. I'll find the source for this real quick. Also, you didn't give sources for the other 2.
"I don't know - I don't care." That's it in a nutshell. He didn't go to University. He doesn't have the self-discipline it takes to research something to educate yourself. Then he unironically assumes he is in any position to tell universities how to educate their students. I'll even go further and say that Sargon, and others like him (e.g. MundaneMatt), contribute nothing to society. Sorry, but "being an angry, paranoid, ignorant polemicist on the internet" is not a marketable skill and shouldn't be put on one's CV.
"I'll even go further and say that Sargon, and others like him (e.g. MundaneMatt), contribute nothing to society." That's not entirely true. They produce carbon dioxide for plants.
But you don't get it man! *The Universities, they are infected with regressive ideas and thoughts!* Universities are full of liberal lies and the poor people like him that seek and follow the truth are shunned by the oppressive, limp-wristed, totalitarian, fascist, racist, PC, marxist government regime!
I remember when I was 13 I was (and still am) a feminist who was discovering their gender and sexuality. I met this guy in his 30s online who was an anti-feminist asshat who thought feminists were "feminazis" and even had a fedora in his profile picture...He told me that I was "part of his tribe now" and spoke about supernatural shit. I told him I thought I was bisexual and transgender and he said I wasn't?? When we debated about feminism he would tell me to watch Sargon because he makes good and intelligent points...he ended up blocking me bc I was a feminist. Now I look back and laugh so fucking hard. This 30 year old possible groomer debating a 13 year old on feminism, telling them to watch Sargon bc of his intelligence and then blocking said child because of their progressive political views, lmaooo
huh? Sargon called them children. He is one of the people screaming about how college students are adults AND DON'T NEED NO TRIGGER WARNINGS. Funny how they are only children when it suits his narrative.
This is the kind of thing most people seem to do; 18-24 year old are children when they feel like it and adults when the situation calls for it. Super annoying.
I had never heard of "Sargon" until the Patreon "censorship" controversy blew up last year, and I quickly forgot him again until I got this video in my recommendations. The thumbnail footage of Carl giggling like a schoolboy the moment Kristi mentions 'semen', (even in such vile context) speaks volumes more about his character than any of his poorly thought out arguments ever could. The self-pwnage is strong with this one.
Despite agreeing with EVERYTHING in this video, i wanna also stress: 'The evil hate on White Straight Males'... has become real... No kidding. Its very obvious from current Hollywood and you probably know the whole Issue under the term 'Woke'. Yeah, replacing all White Male Actors with something else and even humiliating former Protagonists, who are Male, so they look worse than ever (pi--ing off all Fans with it) is totally a Strategy right now implored. Entire Franchises burn, like Doctor Who and Star Trek and its literal Insanity that it all semi-mirrors what those N-jobs think of whoever-they-disagree-with-and-some-more... My Point: We live in a Parody of a Parody. Its name is Earth.
@@bubby632 Haha, you totally misunderstood what i was saying. ...Have you not heard of James Bond and Luke Skywalker and Indiana Jones all being humiliated and than replaced with a Mary-Sue (Female, White)? Have you not heard this happening multiple times, as if theres a obvious pattern that billions notice? ?
As someone who is actually taking a college course on race let me just say this. No. No they are not teaching us that everyone white person is racist. They are teaching us about power structures that involve race.
"Feminism is Orwell's nightmare come to life." The happy sunshine get-along version of dystopia isn't Orwell's 1984. It's Aldous Huxley's Brave New World, and considering it's a story about a society that removes negative emotion from everyday proceedings, treats upper class humans as sedated neutrals beyond opinion, and calls Mexican territories "Savage reservations", the alt-right should theoretically embrace it. Every time someone drops Orwell's name or other recalibrated euphemisms to describe social situations, they literally use doublespeak.
When I was a young teen, I unironically watched Sargon.. That's my confession. I'm glad I grew up in an environment where I was able to come to my own conclusions and change my opinions. Watching this video gives me very complicated and painful feelings, but a similar amount of catharsis
You're extremely lucky that you were able to get out of that mindset and developed into your own person. Many others never get out and become just another cog in the hate machine
I really don't understand how some people can be this incredibly idiotic. "Let's make a petition to stop free speech for certain people that we don't agree with for the sake of free speech".
It’s hilarious how people frequently cite him to combat “leftist” ideas… despite the fact he was an actual fucking socialist. The only thing more ironic would be citing Marx to explain why Nazisim is good, actually
Uh it's a stereotype because it's A. a popular look with many online outspoken feminists, and B. A lot of trans people, so it's partially just kinda a transphobic stereotype (you'll often see comments online which stereotype trans people as like "blue haired teacher's pets" (or at least that's one I've personally seen a fair few times against me) and things like that.)
they also try to claim that it’s “just like it is in nature” where animals know to avoid trying to eat other brightly colored animals because they might be poisonous or dangerous. y’know. like how poison dart frogs are bright fucking colors. so they think “oh yeah that’s the same kind of social signaling telling me to avoid the girls with the bright blue hair they must be showing how toxic they are” despite that just not being how humans work at all.
I'm an astrophysics major, but I'm getting a minor in women studies because I genuinely enjoy the subject. Out of all the women's studies classes I've taken, none have pushed this "agenda" that anti-feminists seem to think come from these courses. They aren't teaching students that all white people are racist, aren't trying to limit free speech, and none of the professors or other students I've met believe everyone is "racist, sexist, homophobic, etc." and need to be stopped. Where are these people getting these boogeyman ideas about women's courses? From "radical outspoken" women they've seen on youtube and tumblr? Is that your source? Go take a damn women's studies class and see for yourself.
+Melon Lord as mountain hun said up in their comment, it's definitely not what's being taught, but it takes being removed totally from one's ignorant circle of people and influences to come to the realization that nobody is normal and I think the issue with people like Sargon is that they are too closed to the idea to TAKE such a class and find out what it's like. I have things like that, but they're interests like skiing or scrapbooking. I don't seek more knowledge about them because i've decided I never want to do them. But luckily those don't inform my way of being or beliefs about the world. That's why your advice to those who have not taken a women's studies course is great, just *give it a try*, amirite?
EXACTLY! I’m taking sociology, race/equality courses and literally the teacher never pushed any agenda. If anything, these classes helped me become more mindful and aware. Never once was taught that white people were automatically racist and I myself am white. My sociology teacher even teaches masculinities classes and talks about the problems that men face as well. But the alt right would still cry that colleges brainwashed people with ~libtard agenda~
@ Like I said, I'm minoring in it because I enjoy the subject, not because it's necessarily relevant to astronomy. (Although I did start a group on encouraging women to major in STEM fields with the help of the Women's Studies Department). You can be arrogant because you're minoring in a relevant field. I'm triple minoring in Mathematics, Physics, and Women's Studies. Who cares if the minor doesn't match the major. I don't care if it's "useless." I did it because I liked it! Anyone can minor in some random field. It's for passion and learning! I minored in subjects that are relevant, and a subject that was for fun.
Spuddicus Maximus 🤷♀️ Most people don’t minor in 2 things, let alone 3 things either way. Besides, most interviews are not riding on whether or not you have more minors than another candidate. Employers look more for experience than number of minors. Perhaps major GPA and extracurricular activities in addition. I’m not at a disadvantage just because I minored in women’s studies. It’s merely an addition. I took some extra classes in a subject I enjoy, who cares? But of course there’ll always people like you who love shitting on people’s hobbies/interests/passions.
In response to a question about what alternative he has during the debate: "I don't know, I don't care." His idea of why he looked like a idiot during/after the debate: "I think I might have overprepared." Truly, we're dealing with an intellectual powerhouse here.
13:20 That reminded of a joke. A couple is in bed. The wife's reading, husband's watching TV. So she puts the book down and asks: "Hey, hon, what do you think is worse: ignorance or apathy?" The husband, without stopping his channel surfing, goes "I don't know and I don't care."
The 2nd hand embarrassment of trying to watch that debate was nearly too much to bear. Also the disappointment of his opponent when she realized he was just going to be a twat without any sources or really even an argument made me genuinely sad that she had to waste her time on him.
Reminds me of a time when Rob Schnider tried getting a court involved into anti vaccine thing and the judge actually replied "I wasted two hours of my life that I will never get back with Deuce Biggalo Male Jiggelo"
lol Someone explain the Anita's bees thing. I have seen that referenced many times but I'm not sure what its about. I must have missed a video somewhere.
That's the thing about all these alt-righters and antifeminists and shit. They are so lacking in self awareness, they don't even recognize that that political cartoon could be applied to them.
Despite agreeing with EVERYTHING in this video, i wanna also stress: 'The evil hate on White Straight Males'... has become real... No kidding. Its very obvious from current Hollywood and you probably know the whole Issue under the term 'Woke'. Yeah, replacing all White Male Actors with something else and even humiliating former Protagonists, who are Male, so they look worse than ever (pi--ing off all Fans with it) is totally a Strategy right now implored.
11:20 One of my little sisters was drugged at a party. Thankfully her friends got her in an ambulance before anything was done by the perpetrators to take advantage of the situation. If I ever found out who spiked her drink, wow be unto them! It’s all a funny hypothetical scenario until it’s not. How can he laugh at that scenario?! It’s fucking horrifying! I live in Denmark, where it’s very criminal to drug someone without their knowledge, and much worse to take advantage of them afterwards. And even then, I don’t feel super safe. I think Assad should get a taste for what it’s like not to have protection and safety. Maybe he should take a trip to a fun country and have some fun. I’m thinking South Sudan or Eritrea
eyemall ears yeah, I heard a lot of Bernie supporters hated Hillary,and that they would vote for trump over Hillary once Bernie quit the race. Edit: Bernie or trump for 2020? Because you do realize Bernie is running again right?
Eli ao I didn’t vote coz I’m not American. I switched political views because I came to a realisation - that socialism and communism is unrealistic and therefore dangerous.
this is an incredible reminiscence of how the angry vulnerable men talked about the suffragettes a hundred years ago. they printed satirical cartoons in the papers of these poor poor husbands having to do shores, they portrayed suffragettes as horrid witches and talked endlessly about how the women have gone too far and how men will loose their rights if women ever were granted the same. it's embarrassing to hear the same fucking arguments against basic human rights. and sargon sitting there with a smirk trying not to laugh when hearing about the legality of rape in certain areas (cause rape is just a joke) should disqualify him from this conversation.
Rewatching this in 2024 feels a bit weird for me. I was a Sargon fan in 2017 but havent been in that crowd since 2019. Its like finding a silly, awkward teenage photo of yours with the difference that with the photo the reaction would be "haha, look how silly I was LOL" and here it is "oh man, look how silly I was".
Honestly, Well done for "growing up" (for lack of a better term). There's nothing wrong with changing, or adapting, your beliefs and interests overtime. It would be worse kbut sadly common) to never change
@@thejason755 Despite agreeing with EVERYTHING in this video, i wanna also stress: 'The evil hate on White Straight Males'... has become real... No kidding. Its very obvious from current Hollywood and you probably know the whole Issue under the term 'Woke'. Yeah, replacing all White Male Actors with something else and even humiliating former Protagonists, who are Male, so they look worse than ever (pi--ing off all Fans with it) is totally a Strategy right now implored. Entire Franchises burn, like Doctor Who and Star Trek and its literal Insanity that it all semi-mirrors what those N-jobs think of whoever-they-disagree-with-and-some-more... My Point: We live in a Parody of a Parody. Its name is Earth.
Going back to an hbomberguy video that you haven’t watched in years to listen to it during work, and realizing that you can understand a visual gag by the audio playing under it. It’s like coming home
"Other people will use different theories to analyze this data." - Ok, fair point. I personally use a blend of political economy, history, societal development and biology. "Like what?" "I dont know - I dont care" - Okay, now you are disqualified.
@@TheEclecticDyslexic Too much probably, considering he very easily COULD'VE said it himself in that heat of the moment, or addressed it in a later video like in the apology one. But nope.
@@TheEclecticDyslexic He spends his time ranting about feminism, but he can't offer an alternative theoretical framework? OK, nobody knows everything but this is a serious gap in his thinking that he needs to fix right? Wait, he said he doesn't care? That disqualifies him from any claim to being a rational skeptic or critic. It shows he is a lazy, bloviating windbag who is completely incurious about the things he rants about.
Or maybe racism towards an ethnic/religious group is wrong, even if you personally single out and want to demonise that ethnic/religious group for definitely not racist reasons?
It kinda makes me sad to hear Carl talk. He doesn't really seem stupid or necessarily "evil" , it just seems to me that he's trapped within the cell that is called confirmation bias and every time he tries to escape, the wardens, his feelings, beat him until he crawls back into his cell where he spends most of his days fantasizing with his friends, Ignorance and Laziness, about how evil feminism is while the weird figure in the corner called Straw Man every now and then whispers into his ears "Feminists think that all white men are racist."
I think it goes to show that he does his schtick not necessarily because he believes it or because he's proud of it, but because he knows that's the audience he's got. He has a Patreon to keep up, being a shitlord is his job now. We can only hope the bottom falls out of this market.
+GeoNeilUK: That's a good point actually.. it's kind of sad when you think about it. He has big male audience of sex-deprived dolts, all furious at their mothers/ex-girlfriends or virgins. He really doesn't seem passionate about it any more, you can see it in his eyes. But it pays the bills, so he has to serve up his weekly tray of slops, keep grinding out those Anna Sarkisian rants, or whatever the popular weekly conspiracy theory is.
Yeah, I think the audience is definitely also a factor. Especially since he's a father and to some degree I have sympathy for him but on the other hand he does a lot of damage by perpetuating falsehoods and fueling an entire community with a hostile "them vs. us" mentality.
I don't know if you actually has any degree in psychology, but what you've described is basically what my feelings were, and sometimes are, relating the topics of Sociology and all the mess with Carl. I've sincerely found his channel when I was in my lowest point in my life (still am) and, even though I've found a comfort zone, I've never got used to it, I literally think watching his vids dumbed me down. I'm still trying to get away from this lack of rational thought.
You're right about Sargon. Sargon pretty much took people's money and produced no results. Whereas Anita Sarkeesian actually produced valuable and insightful videos.
Coming back to this in 2023, knowing Akkad is still around and still has an audience, is kinda depressing. Still, he did run for UKIP and lose spectacularly. So there's that.
that picture of carl in the euro parliament where he wore a short and tie had one of his even more demonic right-wing detractors calling him "Sargon of Applebees"
@@sebastiangorka200don’t forget the clip of him yelling at a reporter about how it’s okay to joke about rape “if a woman is being a giant BITCH” and Count Dankula is just shocked, embarrassed, and cringing right next to him
Lol, I still remember how Kristi backhanded Sargon. Sargon thought he was smart (the next Christopher Hitchens) but got completely shut down by who, Kristi...lmao.
ppl who support sargon even after watching the entirety of this vid and seeing for themselves how sargon embarrassed himself against a professional who presented actual facts - are so hurt by this they will invent an alternate reality where their senpai sargon DIDNT look like a massive tool
Yes, it's not a course, but rather a category of courses that fall under the heading of courses taken by social justice warriors. Courses like gender studies, whiteness studies, black studies, etc. They serve no practical purpose as far as economic futures are concerned, or at least they wouldn't in a world that was more concerned about merit as opposed to social category. Basically the only thing they teach is how to make white men feel guilty and ashamed for all our sins, specifically the one where we exist. In the grand scheme of the cosmos though, a college can offer any course they deem fit, unless the college is funded in part or full through tax dollars. Then the school is required to follow specific non biased regulations. At least in America.
@@MrSpiritchild I'm assuming you're referring to things like women's studies and specific majors such as African American studies. Those things have ALWAYS existed. This is not a new concept. Those classes specialize in teaching about institutions in history and how they treated different groups of people. You're taught that in your U.S. History HIGHSCHOOL class. Those courses are only a more in depth look about very specific topics. Also, what's this bullshit about having "no economic purpose?" The high level math classes offered in university aren't applicable to most middle-class jobs, and neither are any of science or history requirements if they aren't a specialty in your career. A lot of those would fall under your weird description of economically inviable, it doesn't make them meaningless by any stretch.
@@rissa6125 I find it rather disingenuous to state they have 'always' existed. If as the courses state, white man bad, oppressive by nature, racism is in our DNA, etc., how foolish would our grandfathers have been to allow such courses in our highest educational systems. I do admit, for as long as I can remember they have been taught, just under one umbrella. Today they are taught as specialized courses, parted out and with clear purpose, to divide us. Separated in ideology as we are, we never look up, and we never see our true masters. Hannah Arendt once stated that throughout history there have only been two major ideologies to withstand the test of time, that of racial struggle, and that of class struggle. I would submit to you that we have lost the class struggle, and that those with class, (point to be argued later) are merely using the issues of race and gender struggles to keep us at each other's throats, and ultimately institute a new form of control that keeps them in power. I further don't mean to imply that these course don't hold meaning to some, and though again, some may find an economic future with these courses, they pale in comparison to courses like engineering, physiology, medical training, etc. IE, those things that are actual trade skills. If one would provide for their right now as well as their future, I would see learning the trades first, and social studies seconds as the route to go. I certainly don't see any legitimate reason to use tax funding to help any individual pay for them, as they are not made for every gender or every race equally. The fact that white males are required to pay for these courses with their tax dollars makes the whole idea seem tyrannical in nature.
@@MrSpiritchild That's a very well-worded rebuttal and I appreciate the time it must have taken to write it! You have a right to disagree with the nature of these classes, but as someone who has taken courses centered on sociology and psychology, your implication they primarily demonize white men confuses me. Many of the units I was tested over went to great detail to emphasize biological and socio-cultural power dynamics. I can't help but feel you're implying that because you personally disagree with them that they hold no merit. For example, I was taught that the expectations of minorities and culture can amplify natural dispositions, such as men typically being more aggressive. Is that what your referring to as demonization? Personally I have never been subject to a lecture or assignment that specifically blamed white men for society's issues. I can't agree with you that white men shouldn't have to pay taxes on non-trade courses though. Anyone who is a tax payer, regardless of race or gender is also paying for that. Social sciences and english courses, or linguistic classes are required for a lot of important degrees such as Education or Administrative. Fundamentally speaking, I don't think I can convince you because I believe we have two foundationally different views of education. I'm not upset by others obtaining degrees or taking courses that I wouldn't use. I think in a first world country people are entitled to a higher education. However, I appreciate your response
@@rissa6125 First, thank you for your kind words, they are greatly appreciated and are much better the the stfu's I usually get. Yes, we definitely have a different idea on on education, likely because you are educated and I am not. While it may seem that I mean that white men shouldn't have to pay for the education of minorities, I wish to be clear that I believe that no one should have to pay for the education of anyone but their own. My reasoning for this is simple, and that is to what you have pointed out, we all pay taxes, or at least most of us do. And most of us will never see the inside of a classroom of any of these higher educational facilities. To be clear, of the people that won't see the inside of these classrooms, they are made up of whites, blacks, latinos, natives, males, females, gays, lesbians, everyone. The people, or at least many of them, that are getting these educations aren't even aware of our existence outside of their own echo chambers, take their education for granted, and even if they did know we exist, don't really give a damn about what we feel about life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, that is, unless we agree with them personally. This paragraph is getting long so I'll move on to the next. What I would like to see, instead of free stuff, such as free healthcare and free education, etc, is for my politicians to actually do their jobs. I don't know where you are from, I'm American, and outlined in our constitution are the actual jobs of our government. These are, to provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty. Any more then that, they over step their boundaries and are dangerously close to violating the liberty of many if not most. Any less, then our borders become unsafe, and the resulting nightmare generally keeps most of us in a perpetual state of living hand to mouth. I would much rather have my congress promote our welfare, rather then put us on welfare. This way we can not only afford our own healthcare and education, but we can afford the healthcare and education for our children as well. Lastly; and this will be much shorter, I swear; I've been doing a lot of reading on propaganda by some of the great intellectuals of our time. From every thing I read it has occurred to me we are ruled by it by both the left and the right. This makes these courses, that are based off group identity and not individual identity, seem all too obviously convenient to me to be designed more for the separation of our people, then to actually educate us. While I am loathe to do so, there is a quote by hitler (note, I do not even capitalize his name) I feel everyone should know, in order to keep us safe from people like him. “Through clever and constant application of propaganda, people can be made to see paradise as hell, and also the other way round, to consider the most wretched sort of life as paradise.” Sorry for any triggers. I want to see America become once again, home of the free, land of the brave. That would be my version of making America great again. But we can't do this as long as we remain at our perspective poles, and not meet at the equator. Peace out.
Sargon seems to be the kind of person who refuses to leave his comfort zone, that beign the straw man version of feminism that he has created in his mind from misinformation and ignorance.
College students are adults who can make their own choices and analyze information critically. They aren't "helpless children," who are being "indoctrinated."
Despite agreeing with EVERYTHING in this video, i wanna also stress: 'The evil hate on White Straight Males'... has become real... No kidding. Its very obvious from current Hollywood and you probably know the whole Issue under the term 'Woke'. Yeah, replacing all White Male Actors with something else and even humiliating former Protagonists, who are Male, so they look worse than ever (pi--ing off all Fans with it) is totally a Strategy right now implored. Entire Franchises burn, like Doctor Who and Star Trek and its literal Insanity that it all semi-mirrors what those N-jobs think of whoever-they-disagree-with-and-some-more...
Unless it is one of Sargon's TL;DW 3 hour long videos. In that case it is thought provoking entertainment. Lol. No way I could sit through 3 hours of him rambling.
Why do they keep saying universities are corrupting “children”? University students are all consenting adults who CHOSE to take these courses. So stupid
It’s incredibly ironic Sargon is infantilising university students whilst whining like a baby
I wanna know what dope ass school this guy thinks kids go to. I would kill for a class at my high school to mention feminism in a positive light.
@December Vyne i agree
@@tylerburney8576 THIS!! these people think they are like.... courageous and heroic for agreeing with centuries of traditional ideals that aren't going away anytime soon. it's not "brave" at all to be misogynistic, racist, capitalist, homophobic, etc., because those are definitely still the prevailing ideals in Western society.
My college level English composition class had a teacher that didnt believe in global warming and ranted about millennials
Why is Carl so terrified of people with dyed hair and body modifications? I don't remember Orwell mentioning the tyranny of pastel hair colors in 1984.
Phillip Morgan also interesting that he tries to paint feminist as unqualified people with dyed hair while debating a brunette with a phd
What do you think was in Room 101?
In know it's a late response but the legit answer is that they are afraid of any woman who does something for herself and not for the male gaze. "I am not attracted to women with pink hair and pierced eyebrows therefore pink hair and pierced eyebrows scare me as they signify that this woman is not trying to attract me as a mate".
Must be on the sequel, 1985: Rise of the SWJ
Orwell would've been an SJW.
"I'm a moderate fucking person, I've never raped" is my new favourite sentence ever
That poor woman, having to explain to that manbaby that she and Obama are not in fact of one mind
As he was talking over her the whole answer, I don't think he knows she and obama are not the same person even to this day
@@xhantTheFirst "How can I be sure??? I've never seen her and Obama in the same room together!!!"
When attempting to talk to an actual feminist, not a cardboard cut-out, Sargon starts robotic spouting empty pre-prepared phrases and buzzwords like some kind of phoney, intellectually impoverished career politician. Guess that's what he meant by "over-prepared". Also, seeing Sargon laugh at a description of sexual assault pretty much says everything that can be said about what kind of person he is.
I suspect he was laughing for some other reason but the context isn't clear with this cut.
Alright, okay. I guess Occam's Razor is a bit dull today.
ElHijoDelJoe I probably should watch the actual debate as a whole
+apocalypseap It's your time, if you want to flush it down the fuckin' toilet that's your prerogative.
Anthony Johnston That sounds like something Sargon would say about any of his critics, though.
hello carl, my name is John Universities, and i'm just contacting you to let you know i've received your detailed and convincing letter. i will get back to you with a response shortly
lolololol
+JohnnyTheWolf That's good
After seeing the text of that petition, I think he might believe that.
veovis 😂😂😂
Your name: John University
Your mission: Indoctrinate
Ah yes, the military industrial complex, notorious champion of social justice
Genderfluid CIA assets to your nearest town
you guise joke, but a gendercop broke into my house last night and beat me to death for being cis :'(
@@58209 I can't believe marxism would do this. Massive F to you
Lockheed Martin has been advertising how woke and "progressive" they are for a while now. Because destabilizing other countries is A-OK as long as rich women get to do it too
@@58209 your profile picture is my thoughts on your comment.
"You were a victim of oral penetration, right?
Not in Oklahoma."
That was a shock to my core.
And Sargon just laughs. Holy shit.
Yeah... I've had my share of trauma, and my sense of gallows humor has helped me through a lot of it; I'm able to find humor in _most_ of the horrific stuff in these videos. But seeing him _laugh_ at her description of a rape was too much even for me. But then I recovered, realizing he was probably laughing just because she said the word "semen." He's basically a teenage boy who can't help but giggle any time someone mentions anything related to sex, genitals, or butts.
Sargon is probably also into misinterpretations of Darwinism, so I'm sure he could appreciate my belief that people who refuse to mature past the age of 14 should be sterilized (against their will) to prevent them from holding back the progress of humanity.
This is the guy who said that Sam Pepper did nothing wrong.
@@joshuaallgood7030who's sam pepper again?
@@oo-ld8xu Some prank CZcamsr chud from England who received flak for pinching peoples’ asses “as a prank”. Because SA is hilarious, right?! Sargon was like “it’s just a joke. It’s okay to violate people as a prank”. It’s so fucked.
@oo-ld8xu old “prank” CZcamsr who uploaded videos of him just straight up sexually assaulting random women in public by groping them. As a “joke”. Also groomed and molested underage girls as far as I remember.
Sargon: *asks angry question"
Kristi: *begins to answer*
Sargon: "excuse me!" *repeats angry questions*
Kristi: *attempts to answer again*
Sargon: *repeats question*
Sargon: *feminists be so irrational*
That's the game these right wing pundits play. They set up moral standards and dont follow them, and then point the finger at you and say, "Oh my look at how unreasonable *you* are," while they're still being unreasonable towards you.
Although I really do not like Kristi Winters either. She always seems too condescending... have all people ever forgotten how to try and convince someone of their point? This discussion with Sargon is probably the most likeable I have ever seen her though, to be fair, so maybe I got a false idea of her character from the "questions for... men" or something like that... video. Cause her points in that video were just... let's say she is not gonna convince anyone with that xD
@@Zweyrohn When it comes to women in debate, the well is already poisoned (you probably already know that fallacy by now, but just in case search for "poisoning the well"). The bias against them has already been internalized thanks to overt and covert messaging meant to downplay womens' intelligence and competence.
I am not saying that you are biased. But I do think that it is something all of us should consider when we find ourselves not liking a certain woman and the points she's making, but can't articulate on why.
@@FeministCatwoman I kinda know what you mean, but I can tell you why I do not like her. In the videos I habe seen of her, and I know that it ain't many, she talked down to people on the opposing side of the argument. It may well be that she didn't mean that, but it came across that way, specifically in the video I mentioned.
+I. Zweyrohn I understand
Sargon committed a capital mistake: He seriously believed his own bullshit and tried to debate someone with a PhD.
Jeremias Astorga
The intros for the two of them are incredibly telling to anyone with a brain.
"Kristi: PhD, involved in numerous activisty feminist stuff and contributes to numerous organizations in pursuit of equality."
"Sargon: a guy who makes CZcams videos."
he seems to do that a lot
@@ThePi314Man I laughed so hard when I heard that on the actual debate
having a PhD means jack shit and you know it. it just means you've spent sufficient time in the indoctrination station they call a university.
@@Omegon8536 I guess next time you need to ha a surgery done on you, you just go and get axed by the crackhead at the nearest gas station, since college education is just indoctrination.
Dear CEO of social justice:
Please stop
Sincerely, Sargon.
Why aren't these people letting me express my opinion, and not letting me suppress their opinions???? Hypocrite much???????
Edit- This is unintentionally the most meta comment I've ever written
social justice: CANCELLED
feminism: CANCELLED
sjw's: CANCELLED
You did it, Sargon, you did it. You saved free speech. You saved the world.
We did it bois, SOCIAL JUSTICE is no more
big true
can i speak to the manager of social justice, please?
that lady talking to sargon has my whole respect, i hope she knew she was heading into a conversation with a brick and did it to cultivate her patience, thats all that dude is good for
Her name is Kristi Winters and she handled herself VERY well against a petulant galaxy brain that wouldn't even let her answer the question he was demanding she answer.
@@Mr.Spongecake has she done other stuff? The clips make me want to see more of her
@@ashikjaman1940 you really shouldn't. The fact that K Winters slapped him around is more a comment on Sargon's ineptitude rather than her abilities.
Did anyone ever ask Sargon what he was laughing at, because I'd really like to know what was so *fucking* funny.
@@applemask women being raped, Applemask. That’s what’s hysterically funny to him. We’re talking Carl “The Rape Jokester” Benjamin here
11:54
Sargon is literally whining about women making media from the comfort of their room WHILE PRODUCING MEDIA FROM THE COMFORT OF HIS OWN ROOM
@Colin Cleveland Excuse me mate, could you repeat that please? Slowly?
But what he does is different, because what he does is incredibly important. He's going to save the west
I couldn't help but notice that too.
It would he a shame if a string of non crimes in OK occurred against rape apologists, specifically men who support this guy and think hes great. I would feel many feels for them, what with them finding it so funny.
It seems to be a very common issue amongst the right wing. They project so hard they are like a focussed beam of pure ignorant hatred burning through the wall.
"i've never raped" quote of the year
Sargon of Akkad: virtue signaller.
In the words of Chris Rock, "What you want, a cookie?"
@@ZanraiKid I couldn't agree more.
I never embezzled either you don't see me jerking off violently about it
Which makes him a moderate.
"Feminism is Orwell's nightmare come to life," Sargon.
...Has this guy...actually read 1984? Part of Winston's interest in Julia was her expression of bodily autonomy against the sexually repressive society. Just...If you're going to cite famous dystopian fiction...maybe...try to demonstrate a basic understanding of it?
I know, it's so frustrating when antifeminists compare feminism to big gov in 1984 especially considering the multiple places Orwell makes points in line with feminism in it.
"'You’re only a rebel from the waist downwards,’ he told her."
I think you could argue Julia wears the sash sort of ironically... I don't know lol
@@absolutezero6190 i kinda think that's the thing that he said too . julia said
And do you know what I’m going to do next? I’m going to get hold of a real woman’s frock from somewhere and wear it instead of these bloody trousers. I’ll wear silk stockings and high-heeled shoes! In this room I’m going to be a woman, not a Party comrade
she literally wants to fight the patriarchy and sexually repressive government . you know something that sargon and his pals are against . pjw calls women sluts . bps says women destroy civilization with exactly this behavior
The man cant even demonstrate the basic understanding of studies
Julia was in no way a feminist icon. Sure, she was sex positive but literally everything else was up to Winston.
He kept his sexist views (also, he wanted to rape and kill Julia in the beginning of the book)
She wasn't interested in being a revolutionairy
She fell asleep while Winston read The Book
O'brien completely ignored her while they joined the Brotherhood. She only spoke up to say she loved Winston and didn't want to be separated from him.
Speaking of which, their love was never explained. They only had sex in their meetings. Winston's ralationship with O'Brien got more development.
I like the message of 1984. Julia was just terribly written.
This is actually really funny because Sargon and others like him ACTUALLY indoctrinated me as a child lol
Bro same.
I never watched Sargon specifically but I watched a lot of armored skeptic, shoe, and Chris ray gun which like wasn't great for highschool me post gamer gate
@@jasonninja55 same horrible
For me, it was Think Before You Sleep and Dr. Shaym who started the embarassing anti-SJW phase of my life 😬
They complain all the time about the "woke agenda" and "radical left" indoctrinating people, when they basically make bank off of people's ignorance and impressionable young minds.
my condolences!
Petition to bring back the "[CITATION NEEDED]" joke
That's still my favorite joke
Congratulations, you lefties have finally created a meme that is halfway funny, lol.
@@MrSpiritchild it's funnier than literally anything that your side has come up with lol
@@crazyaf12 and they just keep coming, omg!!!
I'm a reasonable fucking person. I've never not liked the [CITATION NEEDED] joke.
The irony of the cartoon is staggering. "These people are demanding that institutions get rid of things that 'offend' them. So now I'm demanding that institutions get rid of things that offend me."
TCovenantUnbeliever I hope that one day these people regret making a mockery of civil rights issues
It was drawn by Ben Garrison, a far right conspiracy theorist who constantly draws weird homoerotic pictures of Trump
It's not even a very good political cartoon.
This is Sargons entire stick though. He sees an article demanding the Mens rights activists to be called a terrorist group by the government (an idea just crazy btw) and instead of defending the MRA or rising above such nonsense, he basically commits the exact same "crime" by demanding feminism to be called a mental illness. I do not know why he is filled to the brim with just... so much hate... I hope they do not invite him to next myth con, he is giving discussion and reason a bad rap... people like him only serve to radicalise an already bad situation.
I know this comment is old but also the redundancy of depicting "big gov" and "big business" alongside the MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. Maybe if he had taken an actual sociology course instead of throwing darts at a board to guess what they're really about he'd know why that comic is an absolute joke
Did he seriously just laugh at a woman describing sexual assault because she said the word "semen"? Holy shit, his brain stopped developing at 13 didn't it?
It stopped developing at the age of 6.
Have a little respect.
Even a 13 year old wouldn’t laugh at that
Dude is definitely not laughing about the word "semen."
@@rickrolld1367 More like 3 years old
But men are so rational and logical uwu!
Kristi really created a theoretical example where Sargon is the victim of a sexual assult, to put it in a way he can percieve and empathise with, aswell as showing that men can be victims,...and he just laughed....
and yet the dude continues to argue feminism is "man-hating" and wonders why feminists are fighting for sexual assult to be taken seriously.
The guy himself doesnt even want to take it seriously.
This is the mental illness of being a content creator that has no talent other than provoking people. They can only escalate. They can't change their minds because they think debating is contest and not a search for the truth. They think compromise is tantamount to backpedalling.
But… he’s rational 🥺
The more I see and hear about Sargon, it really seems that much of his ideology stems from either an inability to empathise with other people (who don't look like him), or, an unwillingness to empathise with others. Plus, he's a bit of an idiot on top of that too. He rarely checks sources, his entire rhetoric consists of parroting right-wing talking points and dog whistling, and he rarely thinks things all the way through. Kind of like when he tried to join UKIP and run as a candidate before UKIP told him to f*** off for continually making rape jokes and being overtly racist. Like, when even UKIP kick you out for being too racist, and too much of a twat, maybe rethink what you're doing?
But that's too much to ask for old Carl Benjamin.
I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't even realize it could happen to men (or even to him personally), because touching willies is gay.
Sargon of Akkad is a pundit in the same way that Lois Griffin from Family Guy is a piano instructor: you don't know shit, but as long as you're just one lesson ahead of your student, you'll appear as an authority.
Ye, Sargon is le logical fallacy master. I a fan of Sargon, have only mastered the No true Strawman fallacy.
That's pretty good for a pundit tho...
pietzsche Not if your audience is the lowest common denominator.
The difference is Sargon just makes up things to know to seem like he's knowledgable. "You see they call these triple keys and when you press three keys at once you make a Triple Sound."
Totino's Other Boy (yawn)
I actually just ran into someone on reddit who tried to convince me because I took a feminist stand point I was no better than a racist. When I asked how being a feminist made me a racist they veered off onto next informing me I was apart of a hive mind. All in all, it was a fun day on reddit. Now back to report to the Queen. Bzzt Bzzt
It's an actual tactic now where you just lambaste someone with 18 different wrong things without defending any of your points. Innuendo Studios did a great video on the subject talking about the tactics of the alt right. I believe it was called Never Play Defense.
God bless her.
THEy cAll iT BUzzFeEd fOr A ReaSoN
I believe the name of that argumentative tactic is "The Gish gallop."
@Joe Average well, I suppose they think they are the "right" wing after all.
Banning Social Justice courses because of free speech
Ironic
This is the best argument point I've ever seen
I... I mean if you skipped to the last minute of the video where he talked about the petition you'll find that the point of it was to mimic what feminists have done. As they have gotten their extreme ideas into media discussions by the merit of having 50 000 signatures on a petition. So he could either use it as a way to get mainstream discussion on the topic or as way to make a point on the biases of mainstream British media outlets.
Sargon is quite bad at debates from what I've seen from the one I've watched, and he seems lazy with going through studies and stuff.
The fact that Hbomb tried to make the impression that Sargon expected universities to actually do something, makes Hbomb as disingenuous/lazy as Sargon, in this case.
Tl;dr you've misunderstood his point and to an extent been mislead by Hbomb.
@Axel Andersson Cut the word salad and just say that you’re trying to pass this off as a troll because it mates your side look bad. Lazy excuse mate...
@@magicsteve5523 You're wrong and seemingly too lazy to read my comment I don't understand what about this there is to troll about.
I watched the video, I mostly agree with it but I thing some things are disingenuous. I'm as much of a troll or a Nazi as you are censorious or believe in the violence pyramid. Everyone online isn't an extremist.
@Axel Andersson No I read the whole thing, you could have cut the entire thing down to “it’s just a joke”, still a lazy excuse.
Sargon laughing in his chair while someone describes date rape to him is pretty disgusting. And you know what? She might not know why Obama referenced a "fake" statistic, but I'm pretty sure he's pretty capable of answering exactly what he found so funny right there.
If I were to give him a herculean amount of good will I'd say that he might be laughing at the "cliché" of a feminist bringing up rape in an argument. Kinda like how many laugh when some say that white people are oppressed. Probably not though
@@roguepsykerhaaker4813 No I think it‘s pretty obvious he wasn‘t actively engaging in the scene.
I actually don‘t think it‘s a golden strategy when debating someone who thinks they‘re in a ‚war‘ opposite side against you, trying to make them sympathize with your ‚side‘. Maybe could work if you were to involve his daughter/children but that would be kind of cheap to and I think he was to closed off to any empathetic arguments at this point.
That‘s probably one of the problems with these kind of »debates«.
@@vegan.3176 Maybe but I think that's really just a problem of Sargon in general being "closed off to empathetic arguments" in general. I've never seen or heard a moment from Carl that made me think "no he definitely cares sincerely" about anything other than things that fuck with him personally. Its all been like paper thin fappy concern trolling at best outside of that
Sargon spews rape jokes. Why are people acting surprised that he laughed when someone brought up rape? He thinks it’s hilarious
@@roguepsykerhaaker4813 feminists talking about grape is not the same as white people claiming they're oppressed. do you have a brain at all? how do you compare these two and not see how insane it is?
If internet petitions worked, we'd have 12 seasons of Firefly by now.
rub it in why don't you
Oh fuck you, you HAD to bring it up.
- sobs quietly in the corner - take my love, take my land... Just give me back Firefly...
lol true
Or Rotten Tomatoes would be gone. And the White House would be building a Death Star.
Tuckerscreator And the USA's national anthem would be the My Little Pony theme song.
Hey Carlgon, can you explain the difference between ignorance and apathy?
"I don't know, and I don't care!"
Underrated comment 👍
I read your comment seriously, showing no emotion at all. I liked it and suddenly burst out in laughter.
You made my day.
CARLGON
10/10
From one commulist cat to the other: Comrad Meow, that joke was hilarious! x´D
Carlgon of Sad!
i’ll never stop laughing at the comment that implies there’s one SJW, and they might have a horse
The real enby representation is the singular, final SJW who uses they/them and rides on something that is maybe a horse
@@adriancerny6366 Horses are just myths.
@@adriancerny6366 All the arguments over "Conquest" and "Pestilence", little did people guess that the true White Horseman would be the Lone swidge.
i think im falling in love with the all-powerful, nonbinary, horse-riding sjw who lives in the nightmares of conservatives
@@adriancerny6366 It's alwasy conveniently obscured by fences, bushes and smoke such that you can never fully make out any of its features.
Those who “hate” cancel culture sure seem to want to cancel a lot.
Despite agreeing with EVERYTHING in this video,
i wanna also stress:
'The evil hate on White Straight Males'... has become real...
No kidding.
Its very obvious from current Hollywood and you probably know
the whole Issue under the term 'Woke'.
Yeah, replacing all White Male Actors with something else
and even humiliating former Protagonists, who are Male,
so they look worse than ever (pi--ing off all Fans with it) is totally
a Strategy right now implored.
Entire Franchises burn,
like Doctor Who and Star Trek and its literal Insanity
that it all semi-mirrors what those N-jobs think of
whoever-they-disagree-with-and-some-more...
My Point: We live in a Parody of a Parody. Its name is Earth.
@@slevinchannel7589 so wait doctor who is sexist now because the main character isn't a man anymore? Have you actually watched the damn show? It's been progressive since the fucking 60s
I mean, the replies speak for themselves, no self awareness.
Don't like, don't watch is so hard to do apparently, beause it is and these people don't like to admit that.
@@razi_man Person 1: I don't like this movie
Person 2: You can't say that if you haven't watched it
Person 1: *watches movie*
Person 1: I don't like this movie
Person 2: If you don't like it, don't watch it
Person 1: ...
Person 1: *Confused screaming*
@Slevin Channel what the fuck are you smoking lmao.
Hollywood has white-washed roles in media for the last century. The excuse that white men are being replaced comes from the few projects that trade diversity for bonus points with minority demographics. The rest you are now seeing are from minority creators that are finally being allowed to tell stories outside of the white male experience in fairer, more balanced markets, and with Video on Demand, these stories stand a much better chance of being seen & praised, futher increasing the acceptance of outside viewpoints for general consumers.
Blaming Doctor Who's dogshit last few years has nothing to do with Jodie playing the character and EVERYTHING to do with Chris Chibnall, the Showrunner, pushing for more American style plot threads, presentation and standard Stan-baiting melodrama, while the BBC reduced the budget year-on-year and gave in to the right-wing "women bad feminism bad" dogwhistling to avoid losing more & more people to Online-only streaming over paying for the TV License.
Ask yourself why you're not saying anything bad about series 1-4 under Russell T. Davies. You know, the famously Gay showrunner that has come back to the show to correct the nosedive Chibnall put it in? He gave the women intelligent roles rather than just the screaming, clueless companions of old, and cast people who actually represent the diversity of the UK, especially London.
Meanwhile, Chibnall put a woman in a sexy Cyberman bikini suit while Showrunner head writer of Torchwood and used mostly white actors in a show that's set in Cardiff, a city that's been notoriously diverse for the last near 50 years.
You're living in a parody of real life, it's called "4Chan"
11:11 I'd like to see Sargon try to defend this. It's not like someone told a joke about rape even, this is an actual description of the act and he's cracking a chuckle at it. I don't think I'll be watching his content ever again.
oh hello there mr moosh.
now every time team mentions you in a video i will know you are a human being with political views.
hooray.
shitshitshit! My cover's been blown!
EXPOSED: MOOSH CONFIRMED HOMINID
So.. can you prove that's why he was laughing? Didn't think so.
i think the part where he laughed exactly as she finished saying it suggests that's the case. i don't think you care about how bad a person sargon is though, since you can obviously see what he is and defend him anyway, so why are you even bothered?
I can't fucking believe I used to like these kinds of people on youtube
Me neither mate - I can't believe I even used to take them seriously
People are wakin up
Woke level 100
I've been grossed out by them from day 1. Some of them can be entertaining to watch though.. but Sargon is particularly boring with his hour-long uneducated uploads. It's good to see Hbomb emerging as a voice of reason from the other side.
The worst of them are the ones who upload a static image and rant over the top of it. There's about 100 of them, they just upload a cartoon drawing of an animal (deer, kangaroo, bear, etc.) and rant for 20 minutes about Anna Sarkisian or whatever's popular in their weekly witch hunt. It's sad that people buy into it, I wish their audience would actually use Google and check this stuff, instead of immediately accepting it all as fact.
The reverse happens too. Ever seen alt-righters weep salt when John Oliver or Colbert sympathize with social justice issues? fucking lol.
Former Sargon fan here: The fact that Sargon still has a ton of fans despite everything going against him and nothing being anything like he says they are horrifies me
Damn, how'd that happen?
Not making fun of you I'm genuinely curious. I once thought Ben Sharpie-o was smart because his strawmen were really easy for my inexperienced teenage brain to absorb
And then I met real people and realized that human beings aren't actually shitty on average.
@@ShitkidOfJamrocknot OP, but also former Sargon fan. It was a multifactored series of events that led me out of the all right pipeline, but one of the big things that stands out is seeing what a bunch of con men with no principles these people were during the 2016 election. All their talk about liberalism went out the window as they pivoted to support an openly fascist candidate.
@@ShitkidOfJamrockprobably he was a teenager with typical issues of teenagers in this age - various insecurities, lack of social communications, underdeveloped personality et cetera. This is, i assume, also a reason, why he is a FORMER fan of Sargon. He just growed up.
@@ShitkidOfJamrock Not OP, but also a ex-fan of Sargon. What happened can actually be traced back to the Atheism movement on CZcams. From there, these atheist CZcamsrs ended up being anti-SJWs back when it was Chanty Binx, Anita Sarkeesian and Buzzfeed's Dear White People videos that were big. From that point onward it was like a pot slowly coming to a boil, but I didn't notice until one day Sargon said something that I couldn't say "agree to disagree" to and upon realizing that he could be so wrong on something so easy to not be wrong on, I distanced myself from all his and those around him's stuff until I had a clear idea of what my own actual thoughts were and I didn't return.
Half the boys in my sophomore class are his fans
Which as a closeted trans girl makes me feel very safe and accepted in a “free speech” society with no problems where women are treated equally 😃
I like how a lot of those comments on the petition say "I'm pro free speech" followed in the same comment by "we should take their right to express their opinions"
"Feminism has all the symptoms of mental illness." Which mental illnesses?? I have so many questions
Kris Nelson I'm about 85 percent sure that Sargon probably only googled the definition instead of actually reading into what makes something a mental Illness
He made a really bad video on how Feminism is.. Autism. He cited Autism Speaks. Shaun did a really good video on it.
Yes, because feminists are all "retarded" (egh even typing that leaves a bad taste in my mouth) idiots, even though they regularly cite more sources, have more facts to back up their claims, and generally, better editing, sound quality, joke writing, etc.
Sacred, Nothing is Show me proof of feminists saying all of that. Because I know that the second one was faked to paint a bad image of LGBT+ people.
Sacred, Nothing is Which doesn't mean all feminists support pedophilia. Also, the other side does too. A Britebart writer was outed for pedophilia towards young men, and multiple people from the right supported him. I, am, of course, not going to say that all members of the right support pedophilia, because that would be wrong and hypocritical. I'll find the source for this real quick.
Also, you didn't give sources for the other 2.
"I don't know - I don't care."
That's it in a nutshell.
He didn't go to University. He doesn't have the self-discipline it takes to research something to educate yourself. Then he unironically assumes he is in any position to tell universities how to educate their students.
I'll even go further and say that Sargon, and others like him (e.g. MundaneMatt), contribute nothing to society.
Sorry, but "being an angry, paranoid, ignorant polemicist on the internet" is not a marketable skill and shouldn't be put on one's CV.
I thought he had gone to university and did History
"I'll even go further and say that Sargon, and others like him (e.g. MundaneMatt), contribute nothing to society."
That's not entirely true. They produce carbon dioxide for plants.
+Wintermute01001 Fair point.
Carl's a dropout whose envy of his successful older sister kinda shines right the fuck through everything he's done.
But you don't get it man! *The Universities, they are infected with regressive ideas and thoughts!*
Universities are full of liberal lies and the poor people like him that seek and follow the truth are shunned by the oppressive, limp-wristed, totalitarian, fascist, racist, PC, marxist government regime!
I remember when I was 13 I was (and still am) a feminist who was discovering their gender and sexuality. I met this guy in his 30s online who was an anti-feminist asshat who thought feminists were "feminazis" and even had a fedora in his profile picture...He told me that I was "part of his tribe now" and spoke about supernatural shit. I told him I thought I was bisexual and transgender and he said I wasn't?? When we debated about feminism he would tell me to watch Sargon because he makes good and intelligent points...he ended up blocking me bc I was a feminist.
Now I look back and laugh so fucking hard. This 30 year old possible groomer debating a 13 year old on feminism, telling them to watch Sargon bc of his intelligence and then blocking said child because of their progressive political views, lmaooo
imagine being THIRTY years old and getting so butthurt over a child's opinion that you block them. That's just really sad
I am losing my shit at “sock justice is going to far”. The image accompaniment is the best.
3:27 :)
Same I literally paused the vid because I wasn't expecting it
huh? Sargon called them children. He is one of the people screaming about how college students are adults AND DON'T NEED NO TRIGGER WARNINGS. Funny how they are only children when it suits his narrative.
Well, there is sense to what he says if you think their persisting as children is a result of coddling.
@@zapazapno u
@@zapazap i think the blokes just projecting considering him being a massive man child
This is the kind of thing most people seem to do; 18-24 year old are children when they feel like it and adults when the situation calls for it. Super annoying.
Dear The Government,
Please get rid of Those SWJs
Love, James Universities
Andrew Letke Yes.
I laughed sohardat this comment that I cried XD
Carl “over-prepared for a debate” Benjamin replies with “I don’t know, I don’t care”.
Sure sounds like something an overly prepared person would say.
I had never heard of "Sargon" until the Patreon "censorship" controversy blew up last year, and I quickly forgot him again until I got this video in my recommendations. The thumbnail footage of Carl giggling like a schoolboy the moment Kristi mentions 'semen', (even in such vile context) speaks volumes more about his character than any of his poorly thought out arguments ever could. The self-pwnage is strong with this one.
Despite agreeing with EVERYTHING in this video,
i wanna also stress:
'The evil hate on White Straight Males'... has become real...
No kidding.
Its very obvious from current Hollywood and you probably know
the whole Issue under the term 'Woke'.
Yeah, replacing all White Male Actors with something else
and even humiliating former Protagonists, who are Male,
so they look worse than ever (pi--ing off all Fans with it) is totally
a Strategy right now implored.
Entire Franchises burn,
like Doctor Who and Star Trek and its literal Insanity
that it all semi-mirrors what those N-jobs think of
whoever-they-disagree-with-and-some-more...
My Point: We live in a Parody of a Parody. Its name is Earth.
@@slevinchannel7589 so straight males are the real oppressed people because they aren't being casted in movies? Seems rather trivial in all honesty
@@bubby632 Haha, you totally misunderstood what i was saying. ...Have you not heard of James Bond and Luke Skywalker and Indiana Jones all being humiliated and than replaced with a Mary-Sue (Female, White)? Have you not heard this happening multiple times, as if theres a obvious pattern that billions notice?
?
@@bubby632 Have you not noticed that we live in a Quality-Drought? How did you miss that??
@@slevinchannel7589 That's capitalism, they retire franchises and remake them, you liked those, cool, but there are worse
As someone who is actually taking a college course on race let me just say this. No. No they are not teaching us that everyone white person is racist. They are teaching us about power structures that involve race.
@Bennnnny1987 You signed the petition, didn't you?
@Bennnnny1987 Knew it.
@Carter Rolen
Wholly inaccurate.
@@androideatsanapple Fabulous man you've built there. Where did you get all that straw?
@Bennnnny1987 there is a video by C0nc0rdance that you really should watch. It's about the actual biological realities of race. Highly recommend.
"University students should be educated on real _imperial_ knowledge"
Such as the difference between imperial and empirical perhaps?
Or is Sargon just secretly pro-imperialism?
@@timothymclean I mean, it wouldn't exactly be inconsistent with the rest of his "totally not white supremacist" views, let's be honest!
damn those stormcloaks and their social justice courses. they have ruined the empire.
No, he means it. Deus Vult! Deus Vult!
Maybe he's just angry that physics courses mostly use the metric system.
Nothing says "free speech" and "anti-cancel culture" like trying to ban academic fields that are inconvenient to your political beliefs
This man attempted to run for Parliament when he couldn't even be bothered to write his own petition.
How'd it work out for him?
Terrible
@@judeconnor-macintyre9874WELL he helped tank the already floundering UKIP with his defense of child abuse by a religious institution
"Feminism is Orwell's nightmare come to life."
The happy sunshine get-along version of dystopia isn't Orwell's 1984. It's Aldous Huxley's Brave New World, and considering it's a story about a society that removes negative emotion from everyday proceedings, treats upper class humans as sedated neutrals beyond opinion, and calls Mexican territories "Savage reservations", the alt-right should theoretically embrace it.
Every time someone drops Orwell's name or other recalibrated euphemisms to describe social situations, they literally use doublespeak.
Carl is clueless about Orwell's work. Who is surprised?
Well said. Reader! It drives me crazy people use 1984 wrong like that so often
Alternatively 'We', by Yevgeny Zamyatin.
Or duckspeak perhaps, the parroting of doctrine and buzzwords with no understanding of their meaning
You assume that these morons have ever read a book.
imagine thinking banning professors from talking about social justice is making speech freer
When I was a young teen, I unironically watched Sargon..
That's my confession. I'm glad I grew up in an environment where I was able to come to my own conclusions and change my opinions.
Watching this video gives me very complicated and painful feelings, but a similar amount of catharsis
You're extremely lucky that you were able to get out of that mindset and developed into your own person. Many others never get out and become just another cog in the hate machine
@@Sonichero151 i to when i was a mere child was a nazi but lil me being the softy i was never truly believed these assholes
Ok thanks to hbomberguy’s coverage of the Golden One, I can no longer pronounce “beta” normally. And I’m currently trying to learn to speak Greek.
The bit where he can't stop himself from giggling at the doctor of sociology describing the aftermath of a rape is pretty bone-chilling, honestly.
And doing the 'world's smallest violin' hand movement.
I really don't understand how some people can be this incredibly idiotic. "Let's make a petition to stop free speech for certain people that we don't agree with for the sake of free speech".
People who don’t understand Orwell yet cite Orwell might be the worst people
reading this comment on 14th jan 2021 hits really different 😢
It’s hilarious how people frequently cite him to combat “leftist” ideas… despite the fact he was an actual fucking socialist. The only thing more ironic would be citing Marx to explain why Nazisim is good, actually
What do the people against dyed hair? They always bring it up whenever they describe their imaginary person
Uh it's a stereotype because it's A. a popular look with many online outspoken feminists, and B. A lot of trans people, so it's partially just kinda a transphobic stereotype (you'll often see comments online which stereotype trans people as like "blue haired teacher's pets" (or at least that's one I've personally seen a fair few times against me) and things like that.)
they also try to claim that it’s “just like it is in nature” where animals know to avoid trying to eat other brightly colored animals because they might be poisonous or dangerous. y’know. like how poison dart frogs are bright fucking colors. so they think “oh yeah that’s the same kind of social signaling telling me to avoid the girls with the bright blue hair they must be showing how toxic they are” despite that just not being how humans work at all.
I'm an astrophysics major, but I'm getting a minor in women studies because I genuinely enjoy the subject. Out of all the women's studies classes I've taken, none have pushed this "agenda" that anti-feminists seem to think come from these courses. They aren't teaching students that all white people are racist, aren't trying to limit free speech, and none of the professors or other students I've met believe everyone is "racist, sexist, homophobic, etc." and need to be stopped. Where are these people getting these boogeyman ideas about women's courses? From "radical outspoken" women they've seen on youtube and tumblr? Is that your source? Go take a damn women's studies class and see for yourself.
+Melon Lord as mountain hun said up in their comment, it's definitely not what's being taught, but it takes being removed totally from one's ignorant circle of people and influences to come to the realization that nobody is normal and I think the issue with people like Sargon is that they are too closed to the idea to TAKE such a class and find out what it's like. I have things like that, but they're interests like skiing or scrapbooking. I don't seek more knowledge about them because i've decided I never want to do them. But luckily those don't inform my way of being or beliefs about the world. That's why your advice to those who have not taken a women's studies course is great, just *give it a try*, amirite?
EXACTLY! I’m taking sociology, race/equality courses and literally the teacher never pushed any agenda. If anything, these classes helped me become more mindful and aware. Never once was taught that white people were automatically racist and I myself am white. My sociology teacher even teaches masculinities classes and talks about the problems that men face as well. But the alt right would still cry that colleges brainwashed people with ~libtard agenda~
@ Like I said, I'm minoring in it because I enjoy the subject, not because it's necessarily relevant to astronomy. (Although I did start a group on encouraging women to major in STEM fields with the help of the Women's Studies Department).
You can be arrogant because you're minoring in a relevant field. I'm triple minoring in Mathematics, Physics, and Women's Studies. Who cares if the minor doesn't match the major. I don't care if it's "useless." I did it because I liked it! Anyone can minor in some random field. It's for passion and learning! I minored in subjects that are relevant, and a subject that was for fun.
Spuddicus Maximus How so?
Spuddicus Maximus 🤷♀️ Most people don’t minor in 2 things, let alone 3 things either way. Besides, most interviews are not riding on whether or not you have more minors than another candidate.
Employers look more for experience than number of minors. Perhaps major GPA and extracurricular activities in addition. I’m not at a disadvantage just because I minored in women’s studies. It’s merely an addition. I took some extra classes in a subject I enjoy, who cares? But of course there’ll always people like you who love shitting on people’s hobbies/interests/passions.
Dear Universities.
Please be free.
Sincerely,
Human Being
Well, free as in I don't need to pay? Sweet.
Wanna drop by Germany?
Me, years later as a high school senior doing applications:
Dear UNIVERSITIES,
please?
In response to a question about what alternative he has during the debate: "I don't know, I don't care."
His idea of why he looked like a idiot during/after the debate: "I think I might have overprepared."
Truly, we're dealing with an intellectual powerhouse here.
It's important to point out that Sargon is a university drop out. So that's where his hatred for Unis comes from.
13:20 That reminded of a joke.
A couple is in bed. The wife's reading, husband's watching TV. So she puts the book down and asks: "Hey, hon, what do you think is worse: ignorance or apathy?" The husband, without stopping his channel surfing, goes "I don't know and I don't care."
+
That's a great joke 😂
Heavy "I'm a locksmith and I'm a locksmith" vibe.
The 2nd hand embarrassment of trying to watch that debate was nearly too much to bear. Also the disappointment of his opponent when she realized he was just going to be a twat without any sources or really even an argument made me genuinely sad that she had to waste her time on him.
Reminds me of a time when Rob Schnider tried getting a court involved into anti vaccine thing and the judge actually replied "I wasted two hours of my life that I will never get back with Deuce Biggalo Male Jiggelo"
"Maybe I was overprepared" is now my go to excuse whenever I've just winged it.
Bees are taking over the world!
"I don't know and I don't care."
It's Anita's bees!
"FUCKING FEMINIST SYSTEM!"
#whereareanitasbees
lol Someone explain the Anita's bees thing. I have seen that referenced many times but I'm not sure what its about. I must have missed a video somewhere.
Bees. My god.
It's referencing Hbomberguy's video about Thunderf00t. I could explain the joke, but it'd be funnier to you if you just watched the video.
+Sean Green it's the video about thunderf00ts ghostbusters reaction
If you take the “angry SJW straw-woman” out of that political cartoon and replace it with a doodle of Carl (Karl?), it suddenly becomes very accurate.
That's the thing about all these alt-righters and antifeminists and shit. They are so lacking in self awareness, they don't even recognize that that political cartoon could be applied to them.
The only difference is that "BIG GOV" probably doesn't give a shit about him and would reply with "who are you, exactly?" instead of "our pleasure".
Karl komes to korrect us all
@@jidk6565 I'd be Kareful about using three Ks Konsecutively, krosses start to kombust at random
Despite agreeing with EVERYTHING in this video,
i wanna also stress:
'The evil hate on White Straight Males'... has become real...
No kidding.
Its very obvious from current Hollywood and you probably know
the whole Issue under the term 'Woke'.
Yeah, replacing all White Male Actors with something else
and even humiliating former Protagonists, who are Male,
so they look worse than ever (pi--ing off all Fans with it) is totally
a Strategy right now implored.
11:20 One of my little sisters was drugged at a party. Thankfully her friends got her in an ambulance before anything was done by the perpetrators to take advantage of the situation. If I ever found out who spiked her drink, wow be unto them! It’s all a funny hypothetical scenario until it’s not. How can he laugh at that scenario?! It’s fucking horrifying!
I live in Denmark, where it’s very criminal to drug someone without their knowledge, and much worse to take advantage of them afterwards. And even then, I don’t feel super safe.
I think Assad should get a taste for what it’s like not to have protection and safety. Maybe he should take a trip to a fun country and have some fun. I’m thinking South Sudan or Eritrea
It’s not funny. Ever. The idea of deriving humor from it angers me.
I'm not sure how you can say that's a "funny hypothetical"? Even hypothetically that's disgusting and horrific.
I think about "I'm a moderate FUCKING person! I've never raped!" probably once a week.
ashamed to admit i signed this a few years back. glad im not that person anymore
I'm sure everyone in your personal life is glad too.
Ha! I switched the OTHER way. From Bernie to trump.
Trump 2020 haha
eyemall ears yeah, I heard a lot of Bernie supporters hated Hillary,and that they would vote for trump over Hillary once Bernie quit the race.
Edit: Bernie or trump for 2020? Because you do realize Bernie is running again right?
Blue Typhoon2017 I’m not American but I would vote for trump.
Eli ao I didn’t vote coz I’m not American. I switched political views because I came to a realisation - that socialism and communism is unrealistic and therefore dangerous.
this is an incredible reminiscence of how the angry vulnerable men talked about the suffragettes a hundred years ago. they printed satirical cartoons in the papers of these poor poor husbands having to do shores, they portrayed suffragettes as horrid witches and talked endlessly about how the women have gone too far and how men will loose their rights if women ever were granted the same.
it's embarrassing to hear the same fucking arguments against basic human rights. and sargon sitting there with a smirk trying not to laugh when hearing about the legality of rape in certain areas (cause rape is just a joke) should disqualify him from this conversation.
kloggmonkey some of these guys' jokes And cartoons are straight up anti suffragette propaganda, verbatim
That's privileged human beings for ya. The times change but they don't. They just find new ways to continue to spew the same bullshit.
The reason we are seeing the same propaganda in the modern day is because the zeitgeist of the usa has not changed since then
Rewatching this in 2024 feels a bit weird for me. I was a Sargon fan in 2017 but havent been in that crowd since 2019.
Its like finding a silly, awkward teenage photo of yours with the difference that with the photo the reaction would be "haha, look how silly I was LOL" and here it is "oh man, look how silly I was".
Honestly, Well done for "growing up" (for lack of a better term).
There's nothing wrong with changing, or adapting, your beliefs and interests overtime. It would be worse kbut sadly common) to never change
The real racists were the friends we made along the way.
lol
Depending on where you hang your hat digitally, that may actually be true.
@@thejason755 Despite agreeing with EVERYTHING in this video,
i wanna also stress:
'The evil hate on White Straight Males'... has become real...
No kidding.
Its very obvious from current Hollywood and you probably know
the whole Issue under the term 'Woke'.
Yeah, replacing all White Male Actors with something else
and even humiliating former Protagonists, who are Male,
so they look worse than ever (pi--ing off all Fans with it) is totally
a Strategy right now implored.
Entire Franchises burn,
like Doctor Who and Star Trek and its literal Insanity
that it all semi-mirrors what those N-jobs think of
whoever-they-disagree-with-and-some-more...
My Point: We live in a Parody of a Parody. Its name is Earth.
@@slevinchannel7589 nope wrong again
"Feminism is Orwell's nightmare come to life".
WAT.
It should be illegal to use the phrase "Orwell's nightmare" in any argument. It's a bit like comparing someone to Hitler.
unless it's a politicion using 1984 as a guide to redesign society.
I think they fail to realise that Orwell was a feminist and a communist
@Eric, The Fanboy Slayer Hence the book Animal Farm?
It is actually
3:26 for "Soc justice is going to far."
one of the best visual hbomberguy jokes.
Why can't both neo nazi fascism and social justice be their own jokes?
Blond Panda IM CRYING
Sock Justice is my new indie rock band.
LSR's voice makes it work
I lost it at "too not racist"
how in the holiest of hecks did sargon find himself a wife
Even worse: he procreated.
Going back to an hbomberguy video that you haven’t watched in years to listen to it during work, and realizing that you can understand a visual gag by the audio playing under it. It’s like coming home
Shout out to all people revisiting the classics ✌
"Other people will use different theories to analyze this data." - Ok, fair point. I personally use a blend of political economy, history, societal development and biology.
"Like what?"
"I dont know - I dont care" - Okay, now you are disqualified.
@@TheEclecticDyslexic Too much probably, considering he very easily COULD'VE said it himself in that heat of the moment, or addressed it in a later video like in the apology one. But nope.
@@TheEclecticDyslexic He spends his time ranting about feminism, but he can't offer an alternative theoretical framework? OK, nobody knows everything but this is a serious gap in his thinking that he needs to fix right?
Wait, he said he doesn't care? That disqualifies him from any claim to being a rational skeptic or critic. It shows he is a lazy, bloviating windbag who is completely incurious about the things he rants about.
Carl of Swindon
>Claims to be an enlightened moderate
>has a Ben Garrison cartoon for his petition.
It’s not the fact he got angry in the video it’s the fact he laughed at the description of a act of rape
I know that was actually disgusting
That diagram that goes from racist to TOO not racist is fucking amazing.
@@loturzelrestaurant ez agree on that
2:58 (One of my favorite parts too!)
Also "Social Justice is becoming fascism" is hilarious when literal fascists are on the exact same bandwagon as Sargon and company
Gnomelord0 that is so stupid... Jesus christ
THe Alt right is like co-option personified.
For example, Orwell was a socialist
One month later: Holy shit, the fash has arrived
On the plus side: Spencer got punched in the face and is scared now 💜
What a time to be alive~
El Aquapimp How so?
Or maybe racism towards an ethnic/religious group is wrong, even if you personally single out and want to demonise that ethnic/religious group for definitely not racist reasons?
It kinda makes me sad to hear Carl talk. He doesn't really seem stupid or necessarily "evil" , it just seems to me that he's trapped within the cell that is called confirmation bias and every time he tries to escape, the wardens, his feelings, beat him until he crawls back into his cell where he spends most of his days fantasizing with his friends, Ignorance and Laziness, about how evil feminism is while the weird figure in the corner called Straw Man every now and then whispers into his ears "Feminists think that all white men are racist."
I think it goes to show that he does his schtick not necessarily because he believes it or because he's proud of it, but because he knows that's the audience he's got.
He has a Patreon to keep up, being a shitlord is his job now.
We can only hope the bottom falls out of this market.
+GeoNeilUK: That's a good point actually.. it's kind of sad when you think about it. He has big male audience of sex-deprived dolts, all furious at their mothers/ex-girlfriends or virgins. He really doesn't seem passionate about it any more, you can see it in his eyes. But it pays the bills, so he has to serve up his weekly tray of slops, keep grinding out those Anna Sarkisian rants, or whatever the popular weekly conspiracy theory is.
I try to show that level of charity too usually. But then I saw his Twitter feed.
Yeah, I think the audience is definitely also a factor. Especially since he's a father and to some degree I have sympathy for him but on the other hand he does a lot of damage by perpetuating falsehoods and fueling an entire community with a hostile "them vs. us" mentality.
I don't know if you actually has any degree in psychology, but what you've described is basically what my feelings were, and sometimes are, relating the topics of Sociology and all the mess with Carl. I've sincerely found his channel when I was in my lowest point in my life (still am) and, even though I've found a comfort zone, I've never got used to it, I literally think watching his vids dumbed me down. I'm still trying to get away from this lack of rational thought.
So he did the same thing he called out Anita Sarkeesian for? Taking money and producing no results.
and Anita eventually actually finished it eventually
You're right about Sargon. Sargon pretty much took people's money and produced no results. Whereas Anita Sarkeesian actually produced valuable and insightful videos.
Coming back to this in 2023, knowing Akkad is still around and still has an audience, is kinda depressing. Still, he did run for UKIP and lose spectacularly. So there's that.
that picture of carl in the euro parliament where he wore a short and tie had one of his even more demonic right-wing detractors calling him "Sargon of Applebees"
@@sebastiangorka200don’t forget the clip of him yelling at a reporter about how it’s okay to joke about rape “if a woman is being a giant BITCH” and Count Dankula is just shocked, embarrassed, and cringing right next to him
“Protect free speech and different opinions in universities”
*tries to shutdown university courses that they disagree with*
Lol, I still remember how Kristi backhanded Sargon. Sargon thought he was smart (the next Christopher Hitchens) but got completely shut down by who, Kristi...lmao.
lol yeah right, if anything she's the one who latched on while drowning.
magma2680 Yeah, it was Kristi that stopped citing sources and made completely idiotic claims with no basis in reality. Riiiiiiight
magma2680 ...what?
Luke Wren no no it makes sense, see-she’s a woman!
ppl who support sargon even after watching the entirety of this vid and seeing for themselves how sargon embarrassed himself against a professional who presented actual facts - are so hurt by this they will invent an alternate reality where their senpai sargon DIDNT look like a massive tool
The fact Sargon is laughing when a woman describes a rape is fucking disgusting
It sure is , his mother would be proud.
"I don't like safe spaces, so can you make colleges a safe space for me, thx"
fun fact; there is no academic term such as "social justice courses", such thing does not exist.
Yes, it's not a course, but rather a category of courses that fall under the heading of courses taken by social justice warriors. Courses like gender studies, whiteness studies, black studies, etc. They serve no practical purpose as far as economic futures are concerned, or at least they wouldn't in a world that was more concerned about merit as opposed to social category. Basically the only thing they teach is how to make white men feel guilty and ashamed for all our sins, specifically the one where we exist. In the grand scheme of the cosmos though, a college can offer any course they deem fit, unless the college is funded in part or full through tax dollars. Then the school is required to follow specific non biased regulations. At least in America.
@@MrSpiritchild I'm assuming you're referring to things like women's studies and specific majors such as African American studies. Those things have ALWAYS existed. This is not a new concept. Those classes specialize in teaching about institutions in history and how they treated different groups of people. You're taught that in your U.S. History HIGHSCHOOL class. Those courses are only a more in depth look about very specific topics.
Also, what's this bullshit about having "no economic purpose?"
The high level math classes offered in university aren't applicable to most middle-class jobs, and neither are any of science or history requirements if they aren't a specialty in your career. A lot of those would fall under your weird description of economically inviable, it doesn't make them meaningless by any stretch.
@@rissa6125 I find it rather disingenuous to state they have 'always' existed. If as the courses state, white man bad, oppressive by nature, racism is in our DNA, etc., how foolish would our grandfathers have been to allow such courses in our highest educational systems. I do admit, for as long as I can remember they have been taught, just under one umbrella. Today they are taught as specialized courses, parted out and with clear purpose, to divide us. Separated in ideology as we are, we never look up, and we never see our true masters. Hannah Arendt once stated that throughout history there have only been two major ideologies to withstand the test of time, that of racial struggle, and that of class struggle. I would submit to you that we have lost the class struggle, and that those with class, (point to be argued later) are merely using the issues of race and gender struggles to keep us at each other's throats, and ultimately institute a new form of control that keeps them in power.
I further don't mean to imply that these course don't hold meaning to some, and though again, some may find an economic future with these courses, they pale in comparison to courses like engineering, physiology, medical training, etc. IE, those things that are actual trade skills. If one would provide for their right now as well as their future, I would see learning the trades first, and social studies seconds as the route to go. I certainly don't see any legitimate reason to use tax funding to help any individual pay for them, as they are not made for every gender or every race equally. The fact that white males are required to pay for these courses with their tax dollars makes the whole idea seem tyrannical in nature.
@@MrSpiritchild
That's a very well-worded rebuttal and I appreciate the time it must have taken to write it!
You have a right to disagree with the nature of these classes, but as someone who has taken courses centered on sociology and psychology, your implication they primarily demonize white men confuses me. Many of the units I was tested over went to great detail to emphasize biological and socio-cultural power dynamics. I can't help but feel you're implying that because you personally disagree with them that they hold no merit. For example, I was taught that the expectations of minorities and culture can amplify natural dispositions, such as men typically being more aggressive. Is that what your referring to as demonization? Personally I have never been subject to a lecture or assignment that specifically blamed white men for society's issues.
I can't agree with you that white men shouldn't have to pay taxes on non-trade courses though. Anyone who is a tax payer, regardless of race or gender is also paying for that. Social sciences and english courses, or linguistic classes are required for a lot of important degrees such as Education or Administrative.
Fundamentally speaking, I don't think I can convince you because I believe we have two foundationally different views of education. I'm not upset by others obtaining degrees or taking courses that I wouldn't use. I think in a first world country people are entitled to a higher education. However, I appreciate your response
@@rissa6125 First, thank you for your kind words, they are greatly appreciated and are much better the the stfu's I usually get.
Yes, we definitely have a different idea on on education, likely because you are educated and I am not. While it may seem that I mean that white men shouldn't have to pay for the education of minorities, I wish to be clear that I believe that no one should have to pay for the education of anyone but their own. My reasoning for this is simple, and that is to what you have pointed out, we all pay taxes, or at least most of us do. And most of us will never see the inside of a classroom of any of these higher educational facilities. To be clear, of the people that won't see the inside of these classrooms, they are made up of whites, blacks, latinos, natives, males, females, gays, lesbians, everyone. The people, or at least many of them, that are getting these educations aren't even aware of our existence outside of their own echo chambers, take their education for granted, and even if they did know we exist, don't really give a damn about what we feel about life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, that is, unless we agree with them personally. This paragraph is getting long so I'll move on to the next.
What I would like to see, instead of free stuff, such as free healthcare and free education, etc, is for my politicians to actually do their jobs. I don't know where you are from, I'm American, and outlined in our constitution are the actual jobs of our government. These are, to provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty. Any more then that, they over step their boundaries and are dangerously close to violating the liberty of many if not most. Any less, then our borders become unsafe, and the resulting nightmare generally keeps most of us in a perpetual state of living hand to mouth. I would much rather have my congress promote our welfare, rather then put us on welfare. This way we can not only afford our own healthcare and education, but we can afford the healthcare and education for our children as well.
Lastly; and this will be much shorter, I swear; I've been doing a lot of reading on propaganda by some of the great intellectuals of our time. From every thing I read it has occurred to me we are ruled by it by both the left and the right. This makes these courses, that are based off group identity and not individual identity, seem all too obviously convenient to me to be designed more for the separation of our people, then to actually educate us. While I am loathe to do so, there is a quote by hitler (note, I do not even capitalize his name) I feel everyone should know, in order to keep us safe from people like him. “Through clever and constant application of propaganda, people can be made to see paradise as hell, and also the other way round, to consider the most wretched sort of life as paradise.” Sorry for any triggers. I want to see America become once again, home of the free, land of the brave. That would be my version of making America great again. But we can't do this as long as we remain at our perspective poles, and not meet at the equator. Peace out.
Sargon seems to be the kind of person who refuses to leave his comfort zone, that beign the straw man version of feminism that he has created in his mind from misinformation and ignorance.
He makes a lot of moolah telling people exactly what they want to hear. Why would he leave that comfort zone?
34finisher Exactly
It's funny that you straw man Sargon by saying he straw mans feminism.
+Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus Who brought all this straw here!?
SAFE SPACES ARE EVIL ALSO I LIKE IT HERE IN MY SAFE SPACE - Sargon of Akkad
I say "sock justice is going to far" every so often
I'm moderate I never raped is my new way of introducing myself in debates.
Imagine you're at a Party and walks up and says, "Hi, my name's Dylan, I'm a friend of Michelle. Also, I'm a moderate fucking and I've never reaped."
College students are adults who can make their own choices and analyze information critically. They aren't "helpless children," who are being "indoctrinated."
SOCK JUSTICE IS GOING TO FAR killed me
Holy shit that was funny lolololol ^^^
I V E N E V E R R A P E D
Jonathan Lane I’ll be mailing you a pair of hand-stitched mismatched socks soon.
Anyone else think he sounded like David Tennant?
This takes on a whole new dimension here in the future after Carl joined UKIP to stand in an election (and failed miserably).
“I believe in free speech! Now stop speaking freely!”
Despite agreeing with EVERYTHING in this video,
i wanna also stress:
'The evil hate on White Straight Males'... has become real...
No kidding.
Its very obvious from current Hollywood and you probably know
the whole Issue under the term 'Woke'.
Yeah, replacing all White Male Actors with something else
and even humiliating former Protagonists, who are Male,
so they look worse than ever (pi--ing off all Fans with it) is totally
a Strategy right now implored.
Entire Franchises burn,
like Doctor Who and Star Trek and its literal Insanity
that it all semi-mirrors what those N-jobs think of
whoever-they-disagree-with-and-some-more...
SOCK JUSTICE IS GOING TO FAR
I'm four and I believe that sock justice has passed the line.
Applemask
That clip always makes me laugh really hard. The first time I saw it, I had to pause the video and collect myself.
That clip of Sargon being livid at the "president of the united state" telling a slight mistruth has aged especially well
“I believe in free speech so we should stop professors using their free speech”
Gotta stop "dangerous thought" to protect free speech
It's been six years and I still quote "soc justice is going to far."
Can Carlgon watch more than 5 minutes this time? You can do it this time man!
not going to happen. he can't even be bothered to read the shit he cites in his videos.
Glorious Lord Sargon can only read or watch criticism if you kiss his butt every ten seconds.
Units of time larger than five minutes are a regressive left marxist conspiracy, sign my petition to ban them!
Unless it is one of Sargon's TL;DW 3 hour long videos. In that case it is thought provoking entertainment. Lol. No way I could sit through 3 hours of him rambling.
wait a minute. Carlgon? Ancient shitlord secret, huh?
Sargon sounds smart to American rubes because he has an accent.
thats a bit culturally insensitive
Yet not wrong.
Everybody speaks with an accent!
Anna Alu ouch. it hurts because it’s true
@@HereComesPopoBawa exactly. He has an English* accent so he sounds smart.
3:34
The one SJW apparently uses they/them pronouns--
*_Representation Win_* 🏳️🌈✌️
lmao, the giant [citation needed] with the THX sound was pure genius