Here's Three Stories About YouTube Plagiarism
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bobvids' video on the blue yeti: • Clickbait Thievery and...
Plagiarised bullshit clickbait blue yeti video: • Video
Dumb KFC video: • What Happened To Kentu...
My Bloodborne video: • Bloodborne Is Genius, ...
My Bloodborne video, but worse : • Video
[DO NOT HARASS THIS MAN PLEASE, THAT'S NOT GONNA HELP ANYTHING] - Hry
I cant believe hbomberguy plagiarized this video
He felt like he could get away with it too
Yea how dare he
He didn’t even put a link to this video in the description
I bet his mum is very proud
Look, he put that it was based on this video in the title crawl, it's like crediting sources.
foreshadowing is a litterary device
(Like the ninjas)
Nicee
Dammit you beat me to it
literary
Literal devices are for shadowing.
(did I do it right?)
I can’t believe Tommy Tallarico wrote and edited this video all by himself
his mom is very proud :)
This is factually incorrect. James Somerton clearly wrote this part!
@@beth7609 his mom is also very proud.
@@Blinks77just as a warning: Somerton’s mother is dead, and people defending Somerton like to act like anyone making this joke know that.
@@EllieBee542 Wait, is this actually true? Did he say that?
IDK why everyone keeps acting like this video is so long. Why is everyone exaggerating about it being 4 hours long?
This isn’t the one. I watched the 4 hour one.
Well, except the parts when I nodded off. Not that it’s boring, I was just tired. But it does exist. 👍
@@whatifschrodingersboxwasacofinwoosh
Ha, this guy didn't get the new dlc!
@@whatifschrodingersboxwasacofinIt yoy slept during the video, how can you be sure its 4 hours long? What if it was actually 17 minutes long like this video is?
Tons of the response videos just gloss over all these major examples, weird.
I never expected for this to get a sequel, but here we are
A whole 6 years later.
@@Shala_Boi it's like Avatar 2, but longer and better
BRUH. moment 💀
@@severin.m best way you could have compared it
It cooked pretty well!
To be fair to Hbomber's "victims" he did did give them 6 years notice.
That shit had 6 YEARS of startup, if they got hit by it it's their fault.
especially lukiepoo lmfao he got hit literally 6 years ago and still didn't think to change up
watching Harry talk about plagiarism for 4 hours wasnt enough for me, so i had to dig deep for more.
i didn't even look for this video, it showed up in my recommendations
Saaaaaame!!!!
I followed Luke for years. Last night I stumbled across that 4h long video on plagiarism.. and Luke came up. I Couldn't believe it. first I thought it was a joke. So ofc I had to see the full video on this topic. Idk how to feel now.
I think most, if not all CZcamsrs plagerise in the beginning. They always take or steal ideas.
I mean, how many times you've watched a critique of a game and days later u get recomended another video on the same topic from another one?
My point is: this is how they start, they take inspiration, steal, copy paste content from multiple successful videos, and with time, over the years, I believe they truly develop they're own style and spin on the topics as they grow more confident.
While I don't always agree with his opinions, I think Luke Stephans today is a totally different person than what he was 6 years ago. And I do think he has strong independent opinions.
@@dailyhubranx i watch Luke's channel too. He has since owned up to both copying the video and responding poorly to the criticism for that. He has absolutely since responded appropriately and absolved himself in my estimation.
@@chrisgenovese8188 when we went to school, and we had homework, and essays to write... What did we do ? Copy, plagiarise. Same with CZcams, but with time you grow u learn , develope your own style.
All this talk about plagiarism has made me think. I must confess something to you Mr Bomberguy, I once stole your classic "sell the houses to who Ben, Aqua Man?" joke and passed it off as my own. The person I told it to found it very funny.
Wow it feels good to finally get this off my chest.
But ist your mother at least very proud of you?
You monster
character development
EVERYONE has. EVERYONE
Me too!
Next week: LukiePoo released a new video: "I don't like Sherlock very much, I'll tell you about it"
"Here's three different tales about plagiarism in youtube"
*"Shows Hbomb in the video"*
Ironically this comment that I made, in a sense, is plagiarism, isn't it?
"Fallout 3 is trash, and here's why"
how about "Fallout 3 betrays Fallout Series and Here's why"
if you watch his video it explains how he got the same idea
SkyOut Agreed
So this is the Manhattan Project that would flatten Somerton 6 years later.
Absolutely genius wordplay there.
And hbomb _never_ had to handle this topic again
Totally not
HBOMB would shamelessly plagiarise this 6 years later
I mean,it's incredible how nothing changed in the past six years, the fact that a huge CZcamsr like Hbomberguy can just regurgitate the hard work of the little guys like that and get almost 3 times as many views is just disgusting
Agreed, he clearly stole this and added nothing but 4 hours of original content on top! I counted.
@@TuomasStarckso like 1% of his video length
The last guy wasn't plagiarizing you - he was doing an American dub of your video.
Ha! Haha!
Sorry, I have nothing to add, that was just a clever comment.
I want to like this but the like count is 666 and I think that's neat
You mean actual English
Don’t you mean English Simplified
@Diogenes TheDog
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Foreshadowing is a dramatic device in which an important plot point is mentioned early in the story to return later in a more significant way.
*literary device.
“Dramatic” can refer to story-telling in general, or at least plays, while “literary” is exclusive to written stories, which ignores that plays, musicals, tv shows, etc. can all have foreshadowing as well.
@@Fionacle It's a reference to HBomb's "OOF" video. Early on he says "Foreshadowing is a literary device in which--"
@@BFedie518 Oh, I’m sorry! Thank you!
Finding out that your friend’s boyfriend ripped off hbomberguy 2 years ago is a trip
PowerhouseOfTheCell That’s actually hilarious holy hell....is Luke as arrogant in person as he comes off in his videos? I’m super curious
@@meggomyeggo431 I've never met the guy
Meghan Cobourn I’m also really curious. He seems really arrogant and only deems his own opinions worthy and never really discusses anything he just states things lol. I always hoped that was just a persona from the videos
@@noamias4897 he's also dogshit at playing games. His review of Witcher 3 got reamed in the comments for his generally awful play. I can't believe people listen to his reviews
@@deferencetodusk I would argue that criticism is a skill in itself, but I do not want to defend that guy.
This is the student film that finally got to be a full fledged movie.
I like how in Weegee's video, when comparing the Yeti to his audio in the beginning, there's hardly any noticeable difference.
On top of that, Weegee purposefully set up the Yeti wrong to make it sound as bad as possible.
and even with the wrong setup, it somehow managed to sound pretty good.
waymuu I know, right? Maybe I'm not the best person to ask (seeing as I'm hearing impaired), but the only difference I could tell is that he yelled more the second time around.
There's a buzzing in the background, because he set it up wrong on purpose.
I just checked and I had to wear my good headphones to notice it. Most youtube viewers, I'm willing to bet, don't have super duper fantastic audio setups that would be able to tell "oh, there's a buzz, there's not enough mid-end, they overdid the noise reduction"
"Notice how this sounds clear (yadda yadda) and this sounds like garbage?"
Nope. I'm listening to this on my Blackberry's speaker in the bathroom.
they still make Blackberry's?
@@WatchMeSayStuff They did up to a few years ago (way past when most people stopped buying them), iirc they're focusing on security software for other companies now.
I was wearing headphones and hardly anything changed :/
Best is how he increases the base sound for his studio setup during that example, but does not do it for the rest of the video. Making it sound like he's using the Blue Yeti for the whole video. That kind of proves that you don't need an expensive setup, because I can't tell them apart (aside from that overproduced small example).
My four year old hauwei syas there literly isn't a difference and that his voice is just super annoying.
"You even managed to copy my laziness."
Really, that is the most important component of the creative process.
Damn. My guy really made supplemental material for a 4 hour video, 6 years before the 4 hour video.
6:23 made me realize just _how many_ "skeptic" or "anti-SJW" CZcamsrs have art depicting themselves and their personas as wearing suits and/or top hats. It's kind of hilarious.
Fucking right?
They are so high, mighty and rational
"I'm a free thinker"
To my knowledge, ArmoredSkeptic and the 3d glasses guy were among the first to use personas like that in debunking videos. Back when it was small youtubers punching right at their weight class (usually old-world creationists with a few hundred/couple thousand followers)
Now that they try to debunk MSM its kinda hard to not just see them as whiny and pretentious, even when theyre right
@@stitchfinger7678 but they're always right
*Ba-dum tss*
I lost it at the pronounciation of Gascoigne
Gas Queen Gee
GASS-CO-IG-KNEE
So I'm guessing it's pronounced gasgoin? Just off how it's spelled
Alex Fields ye it is
Alex Fields it's just pronounced gas-coin. Although the S-to-C transition does sound a lot like a G depending on how you say the the letter G in this instance
I didn't know Tommy Tallerico did video essays! This is awesome, thanks so much James Somerton!
okay, but like, what is funny about this joke? There is nothing other than “person who takes someone else’s work as their own” and “awful human and serial plagiarist” could hypothetically have said they made this video. What is witty or creative about that considering EVERY single commenter has said the exact same thing?
@@whyiwakeup6460 who threw up in your cereal bruh? let people have their fun. do you have a stick up your butt constantly ramming your prostate?
okay, but like, what is funny about this joke? There is nothing other than “person who takes someone else’s work as their own” and “awful human and serial plagiarist” could hypothetically have said they made this video. What is witty or creative about that considering EVERY single commenter has said the exact same thing?
Plagiarism on CZcams: The prequel
I never knew I wanted an analysis of this drama by my sweet soft boy Harris until the moment I got the notification
A JOJO REFERENCE AS WELL, FUCK ME
Some dude I never knew I wanted an analysis of this drama by my sweet soft boy Harris until the moment I got the notification
Khaine's Lair His stand, Cultural Marx. Allows him to analyse media while simultaneously genociding the entirety of the white cis male population.
CULTURAL MARX
Strength - C
Speed - A
Range - B
Durability - C
Precision - B
Developmental Potential - C
zillafire101 Speech - S
I can't believe this is only 17 minutes long.
I literally thought this must be a joke, scrolled up, and had to laugh at the fact that he's occasionally made videos under 3 hours.
I don't like it, I dunno what to do with my next 2 hours and 43 minutes now. I'm gonna rewatch the new video again and tell everyone I wrote it while working with Shigiru Miyamoto on GTAVI.
@@BaronVonQuiply Wow, you must be the first American to ever work on a GTA game.
@@groerhahn225 My mom is very proud
I had to scroll up up check because I could've sworn it was 1:07:11 when I clicked on it
IM IN SHAMBLES
The worst part about “Lukiepoo” is he rebranded as Luke Stephens and found success through no doubt ripping off many other creators.
Yup
I wondered why his voice sounded so familiar and him ripping of other creators would certainly explain why the videos of him that i watched seemed to lifeless and hollow
It's the epidemic of bad faith yt analysis. It's everywhere, so many ignorant or just downright hateful people talking about all sorts of things they don't even really care about. So many people are just grifting now it's so sad
@@Lin_Eileen Easy recipe is to trawl the "hot take" Reddit groups. There you will find an opinion, you will find pro and contra arguments and backgorund as discovered or sometimes misremembered by several other people partaking in the conversation. You don't even have to investigate anything, engage with media or source material, or have an opinion. All the ingredients for a formulaic essay are right there, including a clickbait premise. Isn't it perfect?
I doubt he's ripping off people anymore, because his critiques are so awful that nobody else but him could have written them lol
I can't believe you would plagiarize from hbomberguy's future 2023 epic about plagiarism on CZcams to make this also good video about plagiarism on CZcams.
Not only did he plagiarize the video, but the name and voice as well.
Literally the only thing he added is hair.
And only 17 minutes long.. what a hack
He even stole the "and YOU(tube) joke, at 15:49
He even stole the "and YOU(tube)" joke, at 15:49
I cannot stand Weegee's antics and then subsequently going out of his way to belittle the person who made the video about his plagiarism, Bobvids. Glad you're taking a stand and talking about this, giving the information to a large audience as well.
I can't stand his voice. He sounds like if Howard Stern had nobody in his studio to interrupt him and ended every goddamn sentence on a long and low note.
"THE BLUE YETI IS A ONE HUNDRED DOLLAR STAINLESS STEEL TOieeeeeeeeee.
THEY'RE LIES BORN FROM HOBBYISTS WITH NO SENSE OF QUALItyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy"
i knew i hated this guy after his tf2 video.
What the fuck, I see a comment from Mother's Basement on Bobvids's video, and a comment from Haedox on Hbomberguy's video, both about a video from a dude who hangs out with former smash youtuber Alpharad.
It's like a representative from every different critical side of youtube gathered to call out a smash player. This is the weirdest possible way I thought my extremely diverse subscriptions would come together over.
Baedox commenting on the same video as my other favorite blonde-haired youtuber? Nice.
It is absolutely hilarious having HBomb say "Let's talk about plagiarism for a bit" when this video was queued right after the 4 hour dissection of sommerton.
Weegee the god? the same guy who asked for a refund on Sonic Forces saying he bought the wrong game?
Larry Bundy Jr didn't he claim that an article about it was a hit piece on him?
Weegee the God? PFFT More like Weegee the FRAUD AMIRITE?!
Ripex the Crocogator weegee the god is an asshole
he refunded it as "it wasn't the game he expected", since he was able to finish it in about 2 hours
@@ripexthecrocogator4137 See yourself out
*James sommerton taking notes 6 years ago*
I'm a professional audio engineer. My partner uses a blue yeti for voice over work and has me master her work. It's a totally acceptable microphone, sure it needs a little more love in the edits but... like... it's FINE.
Also, like bomber pointed out, the difference between a yeti and and an entry-level enthusiast setup was $600.
Banger last name, dog
For my most recent video where I had to add some voice over (which is now nearly a year old already), I just went in the airing cupboard, threw a duvet over myself and spoke into my Samsung Galaxy S10+. I didn't even use a voice recording app, I used the video app and filmed the darkness while I spoke.
Usually ANY voiceover work would be through my ZOOM H2N, but trying this out, the quality was good. I wouldn't use a phone to record lyrics for a song, but for basic voiceover? It doesn't sound bad to me. I sound clear enough, the white noise is very very quiet and the Bass-Treble range doesn't sound compressed.
@@MrSomnix it’s not an entry level set up, you can get a cheap audio interface from behringer for 50$ and a cheap better quality mic set up for 50$, which is about the same price as the blue yeti. Blue microphones definitely aren’t worth the value in 2022, they aren’t that good and overpriced, but they aren’t bad either. The set up they were talking about was no-means entry level, the sm7b is like a mic goal for me and a lot of my friends lol.
I actually can't stand the SM7, it just tends to sound congested to me. Is it just me, am i wrong? I would pick a $25 Superlux Pra any day. Added to the bad tone, SM7 is not exactly cheap (though the whole category of broadcast microphones has elevated prices; but an RE20 at least doesn't sound bad) and a little difficult to run with low output level. I think it's a massive viral disease that everyone is buying them.
Yeti is not very objectionable, but at best it's a slightly worse AT2020 with 3 extra modes which don't sound right. I think it was a little bit of a disease as well.
I'm beginning to suspect that Hbomberguy *Might* not be a huge fan of plagarism. Might be wrong tho
Such a strange thing to obsess over. I mean, it’s a good thing to call out, but still kinda weird he has an obsession with it.
@@drstrangelove307whats wrong with always going over that? Every youtuber has their thing, thats just his
@drstrangelove307
He makes a living expressing his ideas and opinions. Plagiarism is stealing ideas and opinions. Makes sense that it would be something he is passionate about
"You can't copyright a style or an idea"
Ha! Tell that to Addison Cain.
WITH PREJUDICE
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN,
I wasn't expecting this kind of comment, but DAMN if I don't love that it's here
LINDSAY ELLIS IS A MENACE!
I was not expecting this comment here and I wholly approve.
In here to gaze upon the prequel to the latest banger
6:33
I just noticed how every single one of those avatars is wearing a suit
I imagine they all think highly of themselves for being so rational and counter-culture and use the suits to represent their level of "sophistication" and how much more refined they are for holding the views that they do
"If I think of myself as rational and clever, that means my gut feelings about everything are automatically right and I don't have to examine them at all! This is scepticism somehow!"
AC I'm plagiarizing that quote ;-)
Haha, well put! It's the argument they evolve to once they level up from "If I say I'm not racist/sexist/etc, that means everything I do is automatically appropriate and sensitive, and I don't need to give any thought to others. I'm so inclusive!"
So, I used to really love fedoras, because I'm a total nerd and we all like them. But fedoras have been so thoroughly ruined by assholes on the internet that now I feel really self-conscious about wearing them. Like, I try not to let anyone dictate my sense of fashion, but I always worry I'm going to give the wrong impression if I wear one.
Anyway, I'm just worried these assholes are going to ruin suits too :( I really like suits.
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This video made me overly paranoid that I'm accidentally ripping off someone.
Eric Taxxon I think that's the point.
Eric Taxxon ripping off to this extent has to be done on purpose and with full knowledge of what you are doing.
I'm pretty sure it's actually a thing to accidentally repeat someone else's ideas as if they're your own. It's not always intentional, but then if you catch yourself having done it and don't own up, that's when it's BS. There's a huge difference between repeating an idea and recreating it wholesale though.
Don't worry about it, if it happens accidentally, just apologize and move on.
M8, i've seen your videos, and watch them often, trust me your magical digital overlay vomit visuals are rather unique.
This is what a nice quality microphone sounds like, AND THIS IS WHAT A SHITTY ONE THAT I"M SHOUTING INTO SOUNDS LIKE
as a person who uses microphones on drumkits, vocals, acoustic guitars, pianos, i can say, with a certain (relatively low amount of) authority on the subject, the blue yeti is perfectly acceptable mic for its price. if you want to record for youtube, whether vocal audio or an acoustic instrument, the yeti is going to deliver, youtube is gonna compress the audio anyway. My only recommendation if your option is a Yeti is to look a little cheaper. Blue is basically the name brand for USB microphones, so they overcharge. Look at Samson or other brands that are cheaper but can deliver the same quality. DONT cheap out on a Blue Snowball or Blue Ice, those are actual dog trash. Using an XLR Mic is the next level. Either youve done youtube for a year or so and have the ability to upgrade, or youre looking to do more professional voice acting or recording for a band, thats when you take the leap towards an XLR connection.
Most underrated prequel of all time:
its not a prequel, the four hour video is a sequel
Hey, nice video! Going to jump in real quick and give a quick defense of myself, if I may. A lot of what you said is right on, in that Macks greatly inspired a couple of videos that I made about a year or so ago. We share some similar tastes and styles, and I struggled as a creator to really take CZcams seriously until I saw several niche channels like his turning that style into awesome videos. In that sense, he was a great inspiration on a style that I adopted and began to riff on. However, I would disagree with the notion that I engaged in "plagiarism" as this video suggests. I haven't stolen a single frame of soulbro's work. My videos are original content, and my work is my own. We both cover vastly different subject matters... his channel services one corner of the internet, mine another... and I have never plagiarized his work (topics, analysis, footage, etc.) at all. So, I disagree that our situation with the KFC video I produced is anywhere near the same situation as your first and last examples. I mean, the two "similarity" clips you show here are quite a stretch to say the KFC video is a ripoff. I mean, the "alright check it out" thing I get... But if having structure in video essays where you address a topic point-by-point is stealing, by all means, lock me up, I guess.
For what it's worth, when I became aware that trolls were trying to stir up beef between us last year, I contacted Macks directly, and we talked through the situation one-on-one over the phone, as grown men do. He ran a spot for his comedy LP on a separate video of mine shortly thereafter, and we both have expressed interest in future collaborations, when a project I've had in the works reaches a point where he can be brought on in some capacity. As far as I'm aware, there's no problem between us. I continue to have great respect for him as an artist, and wish him continued success.
CZcams beef is one of the most absurd and childish things on the planet. I prefer collaboration. When engaged in petty drama, I waste time I could devote toward creating. I won't stop creating, and neither should you. Best of luck in your future works! Peace. ✌🏻
austinmcconnell I definitely agree with this. Whenever you are a creative in whatever form that may take you are going to have inspirations. Breaking free of those inspirations completely is one of the most difficult things you encounter when going through that journey.
For example, when you are writing music - often it can feel like everything that you understand is coming directly from your own brain and thoughts is really just a picture puzzle of different *micro-inspirations* from creative works you enjoy - or even have come to see as the epitome of a particular ideal that emotionally or creatively impacted you in some way.
Of course that impact is inherently bound into the context of how you create after that because it occupies a certain space within your brain where the want and the drive to create to inspire that impact on other people that you felt yourself - comes from.
You can see how interlinked the two things can become. You can hardly blame someone for birthing their own styles on the foundations of their inspirations when they build the blocks of how you understand what is special about a creative medium in the first place.
As long as you don't obviously cross the line into recreation and aren't attempting to obviously profit from non-reworked, stolen ideas it would be crazy to say every creative work had to hide away from its influences.
I don't think your work does that at all, albeit it may take a few too many building blocks from a few other places but you mention that yourself.
I'm not sure that video really hits the very legitimate points that HBomber was really going for...
And alas you'll be put under as one of the many people profiled as the corrosive, shady, side of you tube by this guy's intellectual fan base.
"For what it's worth, when I became aware that trolls were trying to stir
up beef between us last year, I contacted Macks directly, and we talked
through the situation one-on-one over the phone, as grown men do. He
ran a spot for his comedy LP on a separate video of mine shortly
thereafter, and we both have expressed interest in future
collaborations, when a project I've had in the works reaches a point
where he can be brought on in some capacity. As far as I'm aware,
there's no problem between us. I continue to have great respect for him
as an artist, and wish him continued success. "
Basically you went damage control mode and it makes it ok now.
@Enee
My point epitomized.
Wait, who are you, why am i subscribed to you, and why do i like your takes on things on the whole so much more than this weird hbomberguy's person?
This video is like going back to demon souls after elden ring
i cant believe james somerton and tommy tallarico wrote and edited this whole video
Oddly enough, I recently found AustinMcConnell, and I came across the KFC video, and it’s probably my least favorite video of his. He did genuinely get much, much better and found his true voice after a while. He’s grown into one of my favorites lately.
Sambou Jaiteh I found him before that and when it came I also genuinely found it a very weak video.
AustinMcConnell is a strange man. I discovered he was a preacher at his church, and he's made awful comments about gay people (it's on CZcams)
@@SublimeTrickaz link?
@@fdfjhigfiuhdsfkj708 CZcams is your friend, it's easy to find
@@SublimeTrickaz can’t find it do you have a link ?
SEEING THIS IN MY RECOMMENDED AFTER THAT LAST VIDEO IS WILD
And nearly 3 years later and Luke Stephens (Having dropped the name Lukiepoo as fast as he did that Bloodborne video) is still chasing that spotlight with C-list video essays skimming off a mix of other creators, fan forums and other easily reappropriated non-copyright protected intellectual material repackaged it under his own clickbait label, complete with trend chasing content and target times. I'd like to say things were learned but it seems his skills at reading the winds of internet media still far eclipse any actual creative ones.
its' honestly fascinating, I very ocassionaly hatewatch his videos.
And I genuinelly don't understand how someone can feel so qualified to talk about things, with like all the bells and whistles of videoessays about like, stuff. Yet entirely and completely take every single bit from elsewhere, or just be completely objectively wrong. (Like, he'll criticise a game for things that do not actually exist, because he misinterpreted someone else's tweet or something, or will just say shit like he 100% death stranding in 40 hours)
The only like actual opinions of his you can gleam are just bizarre non-sense ones, like he complained that it's pretentious to havep eople cry in games.
he's a trump fan with a degree in corporate finance, of course he hasn't learned anything
@@bloodmachine6049 I've only ever seen the infamous Bloodborne video (And to his credit then, that was before I knew Hbomb existed.) But even still it was so in-line with the decades long fanboy yawping of how special FROM game's were back then it struck me as utterly bland and unspecial of the time, and that was before knowing how thoroughly he plagiarized.
"Bloodborne was cool because no shields" This meme wasn't original, it was in people's heads since the first of the e3 trailers. It was passed around as shorthand for how much more hardcore it was going to be over Dark Souls or something.
Luke just took the ideas with mass appeal like that and ran with them, inserting his own vapid praise for the game between segments.
Hbmob uses it in his video as a jumping off point to how DS and BB informed gameplay differently.
In retrospect, it would be obvious where to draw the line between other''s takes and his own happy little anecdotes if for how detached they were from what he was actually talking about. He probably didn't have enough critical or editing know how to make a smoother transition between idea and just glued them together that way.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if his interest in games as mechanics exists solely to affect an air of someone who knows what he's talking about on the internet. I hear he's grown pretty toxic in recent years, but it's really kind of pathetic when you put it all in perspective.
I actually really like Luke’s channel. Didn’t know about this plagiarism, though. That sucks.
@@derekg5674 I implore you, watch literally anything else and you'll get more value out of it. (any point of his that you've heard is nigh-definitelly just plagiarised, or fabricated)
ah yes, the pilot episode
My god, what's next? IGN copying a video review down to the video timing?! Hahaha....
Ohhhh nooooo...
xD
Funny only for people who know what you're talking about... Why not put at least a link to the videos you're referring to?
Yeah, I would be greatful
@@XX-de8jp czcams.com/video/eKF6xnvaCsE/video.html
Man, I remember that.
Nostalgia
Damn cant belive hbomberguys legendary james somorton plagiarism video got a prequel!
This is just the demo of the new video
This was a warning shot
Thank you Tommy Tallerico for this excellent video.
Foreshadowing
Oh damn. He went back in time to spread the word about plagiarism.
So this is your villain origin story 😂
So glad Soulbrotha is getting the respect/ attention he deserves, guy is one of the hardest working people on the internet.
It's really sad to see some of his work not get the attention it deserves. Dude's brings his A-game to every video.
rockzyk at least this brought attention to him and, hopefully, more customers
Well, he has 5k more subs since the number shown on this video. So I suppose you're right.
Lost User That conversation with Destiny was a BIG YIKES.
is this the hbomb guy plagiarism vid i've been hearing so much about? pretty good!
There's a newer one.
@@infinitylantern2 sarcasm is dearer
The H.bomberguys Cinematic Universe sneakily attacks again...
The until now forgotten, but now properly contextualized:
Plagiarism, _the Prequel_
It even has a cameo of Lukie Poo!
This is where it all begun
There's a short story by BJ Novak, "J.C. Audetat, Translator of Don Quixote," where the protagonist is an obscure poet that catapults into fame after releasing an English translation of Don Quixote that's so well-received that it revitalizes worldwide interests in the classics.
Afterwards, he releases a new translation of classics like Anna Karenina and In Search of Lost Time and gets more and more recognition, which grows to such an absurd degree that he even releases a rewrite of 'The Great Gatsby', which is considered better than the original.
The joke at the end is that he doesn't know any language other than English and just rewrote other translations into a more poetic style, essentially ripping off other people's work by rewording it.
Just to add another layer to this... undoubtedly Novak himself was inspired by Jorge Luis Borges's "Pierre Menard, Author of the Quixote", itself a short story in the form of a fake litcrit article on the titular Menard, a 20th century French writer who "rewrites" fragments of Don Quixote line-by-line in the original Spanish. It's an interesting (and funny!) work re: authorship, reader context, and a work's "meaning" that's not *too* woefully tangential to the topic at hand.
Richard le Gallienne did something like this in real life. He was a member of the Omar Khayyam Club and published a 'Paraphrase from Several Literal Translations' of the Rubaiyat, as (despite knowing no Persian) he thought he was familiar enough with the spirit of the poem to make a better attempt than actual translators. Although really the impetus mostly stemmed from the bizarre views of the Omarians, who were inclined to discount any genius the original author(s) of the Rubaiyat may have possessed in favour of celebrating the original English translator, Edward FitzGerald. le Galliene said: 'the petals came from Persia, but it was an English magician who charmed them into a living rose'.
All of these accounts immediately remind me of Pale Fire by Vladimir Nabokov, easily my favourite author. The plot centres on a brilliant, deceased poet and his mad "friend" who parasitises him by analysing his last poem to be 100% about his own life.
It not only captures the essence of the sort of solipsism that would grow widespread on the internet many decades later, but does so in a mega-referential manner reminiscent of hypertext, making it feel like reading a wikipedia article despite predating wikipedia rather substantially.
Oh shit yo thats a jojo refrence
Actually it was a reference to ME! DIO!
*sees hbomberguy's bannana costume* what a beautiful duwang *chew*
Dan Paradis MASAKA?!
Enemy stand!
I hate when people do this... a brief mention of Jojo’s bizarre adventure doesn’t mean you should start heavy breathing and highjack the comments.
god, that dude (lukiepoo?) that plagiarized your bloodborne video has such an annoyingly overdramatic way of speaking and editing? always with that slow piano music and super serious grave voice, its so cringy!! i cant listen to it uGH
The exaggerated facial expressions also make him look like he's taking a pained, constipated shit.
@@AshBashVids Sometimes . . .
...you pass the bowling ball, &
sometimes the bowling ball passes you.
The description of "CZcams Essay 101".
And yet you follow film theory...
The prequel
The prequel to the prequel
14:55
blatantly stolen from nietzsche, how dare you
Well it HAS to be a smart comment if I stole it from someone else
i was just joking i'm your #1 fan pls don't hate me
Edgar lies your his number 2 fan, and shitty fan at best.
Yes, that's poo joke, and I have the mental age of 12 year old.
hbomberguy Not really. You'd surprised at the amount of dumb shit people parrot, just because it plays well in the right audiences.
I think Nietzsche stole that from Schopenhauer in the first place.
Loved the vid, great job, just some feedback:
When you're showing clips of videos, it'd be really helpful if you indicated that with titles. It was confusing at times trying to figure which was WeeGee and which was Soul.
It's especially confusing at first when you're showing clips of your own vids and trying to figure out that it's not you making THIS video but showing your past work.
this video is very interesting but when does this Somerton fellow show up?
Huh, I wonder why this video came back up in my recommended.
Hmm that Lucas Poop fella seems like he's up to no good, I wonder if he'll ever insert homophobic rants into a stolen review.
I wonder what goes through the mind of a plagiarist as they spend hours upon hours copying a video.
"This couldn't possibly come back to bite me in the ass."
And they are right. Luke Stephens' shitty clickbait videos are huge
Yea I especially wonder about that considering HE LIKED AND PINNED HBOMBS COMMENT. Like he took someone else's video, then when the og creator found it and made a passive aggressive comment about it he made sure everyone who looked at the comments would see it... Like at that point your voluntarily asking for it
the prequel to the storm
Don’t say you like the anime if you haven’t read the manga
Wow, I sure am glad plagiarism was solved with this video. Now let me take a biiiiiiiiiiiiig sip of coffee...
You better be looking away from your monitor when you do...
That’s what I said.
one casting director i know (who is also a voice actor) uses a blue yeti, as do i. they’re literally fine! he’s even said that, in a pinch, you could submit an audition with your phone mic (say if you’re on vacation), and like it won’t be perfect, but it’ll be fine! basic mics have gotten so good these days. i’ve seen a couple casting calls that say “XLR required,” but other than that, you can get away with a blue yeti just fine as long as you can edit your audio. what a weird thing to get mad at
My film school used blue yetis as standard; they aren’t amazing, but they do work, and they do pretty much everything actually important or useful well enough that you can usually fix any real issues in editing
I feel like they almost use it as a substitute for knowing good sound engineering and miking technique. I’ve seen this tendency among guitar players as well: if you have top-shelf pro gear, it’s a substitute for knowing what you’re doing with it.
When I'm watching on my phone, I literally cannot tell the difference in audio quality even when I'm listening super hard.
CZcams will compress the audio to a certain degree for streaming, enough to the point where frankly the quality of an XLR setup is almost a total waste of money. Ive used mics for music, podcasting, and youtubing alike and the Yeti will deffo do the job. I wouldnt be very surprised if i learned that most youtubers just used the Yeti, because for just voice recording, itll do the job well enough
I recognised Lukiepoo's voice and now realise that he changed his username to Luke Stephens. I used to watch his videos but unsubscribed a year or so ago because at some point I just didn't feel like he had anything interesting or unique to say. Most of his opinions felt like they were just the already-dominant opinion on the subject.
This isn't true for literally every video, but it feels like he's extremely risk averse and doesn't want to present a challenging opinion to his audience at all.
Hearing that he will categorically steal entire original concepts really only adds to the sense that he wants to present himself as a thoughtful critic whilst taking as many shortcuts as possible to achieve that goal, either too lazy to think for himself or too cowardly to present an original argument or idea, or both.
Probably not even laziness, good critique can only come from something you're passionate about. When the thing you're passionate about is the critique itself rather than the media you're critiquing, you're going to find yourself lacking in anything to actually say. Criticism for the sake of maintaining a facade of intellectualism is never going to go deeper than surface level, because they don't actually care about anything besides the aesthetic.
Ended up randomly getting his video on Forspoken and he had truly quality insights like "Alice in Wonderland is just a dude tripping on LSD" so, truly a champion of wit and intellect, but then I was like... I recognize his face from somewhere and then I was like WAIT A MINUTE DIDN'T HE PLAGIARIZE HBOMB?!
@@ragnarockerbunnyForspoken was the turning point for me. I’ve followed him for years, but that video was filled with so much nothingness and bad faith arguments.
I played the game and actually enjoyed it. I know it’s not a great game, but none of his points did anything to explain why, other than parroting the mass public opinion of how cringe the dialogue is and how poorly written some scenes are.
About 5-10% of the video was talking about the gameplay or anything else besides the same stuff everyone has already heard.
@@Evanz111so basically you're all hasting on a guy for having different opinions to you😅 typical of modern day society. Sensitive little babies that can't tolerate the idea that not everybody likes what they like or thinks how they think.
@@idrinkmilk282 Ironic comment seeing as you're the one who can't handle a creator they like being criticised and the biggest bitch baby in this comment thread. Is it just me or is it the worse people act about a creator, the more bland the actual creator is? It's almost like coping or something
this fucking aged like an ancient, long-extinct beetle, its full opulence pristinely suspended in a hunk of amber shaped like a full-scale anvil
in a blimp
Who came here from the 4 hours video he just released?
Lukeypoo reminds me of the kids that copy paste a page of wikipedia for an essay and don't even clean up the citation marks
Luke Stephens as his channel is now branded, still does exactly that
@@quinnmarchese6313 Wikipedia is open source, so who cares. Nobody owns the content of Wikipedia
@@unicorntomboy9736 it's still plagiarism wtf are you on? you can't just copy and paste Wikipedia content and turn it in for a school assignment
@@quinnmarchese6313 You can paraphrase. That is allowed
What exactly constitutes plagiarism in a creative field? Where is the line drawn between it and taking inspiration/influence from another source?
@@unicorntomboy9736 we're talking about "copy and pasting", not paraphrasing--you're 100 percent right but the discussion was always about copy and pasting--which _is_ plagiarism. also, theres software that schools (and you can) use to determine exactly how much of your essay or whatever is verbatim from a source like wikipedia or if its a paraphrase or something. art is a bit more nuanced and i can't claim to know much about artistic plagiarism.
This was recommended to me after watching your latest video, Plagiarism and You(Tube). I hadn't seen this one before, as I wasn't familiar with you when you posted it six years or an estimated four hbomberguy videos ago, but I'm very glad to have the added context now.
It's a bit disheartening that some observations you make in this about CZcams trends and plagiarism of style, ideas, and content remain so relevant, but I'm also glad that you continue to bring attention to it now. I hope that some creators out there have actually taken these messages to heart and made an effort to improve. Even if they may do so simply because they now recognize the potential backlash they could receive if they continue shameless copying of others' work, it does open up the door for more original and inspired work, and might even result in some people finding their own voice when they otherwise might not have. So thanks, Harry.
This is to the "Plagiarism and you(tube)" video what The Hobbit is to The Lord of the Rings
Tommy Tallarico is Tom Bombadil
This seems pretty thorough I doubt Mr bomberman has much more to say on the topic
Funnily enough, I looked Lukiepoo up (his channel is now called Luke Stephens) and it turns out he's also plagiarizing Jim Sterling A LOT. Yet he has 190k subs, which is depressing.
Funnily enough, Luke (being a big anti-SJW type) probably despises Sterling lmao
@@LovableCoolGuy I’ve never heard him say anything “anti sjw” but I’ve heard a couple people say this. He seems to have matured a lot as a content creator over the past few years. Considering he was like 18 or 19 when he made this video copying hbomberguy, he seems to have come into his own style of reviews now.
This one instance of plagarism still bothers me, because i dont see anyone else mention this particular event:
This really old CZcams channel called "Tats TopGaming" or something like that made a video about Game-Breaking Glitches in games. Shortly thereafter, one of those generic, corporate "gamer" channels called "TGN" made an identical list about game-breaking bugs. The kicker is that TGN used the *_same_* bugs from the *_same_* games in the *_same_* order with the *_same_* footage and the *_same_* script. I'm not kidding, the similarities are so uncanny that no one could look at those two videos and say that TGN didn't straight up rip off Tats TopGaming's video. I'm also pretty sure that TGN knows this, because i had posted a comment on their video when it came out calling them out, and when i returned to that same video to look for my comment, it was mysteriously gone.
than watch mojo did it too. I feel sorry for tats his channel have some really cool stuff.
I saw that vid on a library computer and as soon as it finished the library computer crashed, scarring me for the rest of time and making me irrationally scared of viewing it ever again. This isnt related i just thought it was funny
big corporate channels are honestly the worst offenders when it comes to plagiarism, and not just on CZcams
And a *really* similar situation happened a while ago when an IGN reviewer made a review of _Dead Cells..._ that was that exact same level of plagiarism; based off the work of (at time) small CZcamsr "BoomStickGaming."
I remember watching that go down.
I learned a lot.
Good times.
Edit: grammer
God I love tats topgaming. I didn't even know that this happened to them.
If you really want an example of CZcams's reaction and ultimately the consequences, then the whole Irate Gamer / AVGN debate from ten years ago is a perfect example.
The insane amount of videos and anger is a perfect case study.
Larry Bundy Jr damn ive been watching CZcams for too long hahhahah because I remember that shit to the T.
Hows The NC is a hack ?
Holy shi-
So the legends are true, Larry is in every comment section!
Ronnie Gonzalez Doug has a very juvenile approach to humor. His schtick is mostly display annoyance, nitpick minor aesthetic choices, and shriek wildly when necessary to avoid monotony. It's really telling when Lindsay Ellis was hired to do a similar format of reviews for his site that her content was genuinely more engaging and interesting overall than his
melted dali I know Doug style but is it really worthy calling him a hack
"...DROP THE SHIELDS." - Hidetaka Fukboivin
also
_"Gas-Queeg-nee"_ - Perfect.
That's egregious
So this was a trailer then?
Ground Zero
Man, I bumped into this channel because I indulged in some clickbait, curious to see what the deal with the Fallout 3 vid was (academic interest actually, rather than a dislike-and-run). This is way too much indirectly and directly helpful information than I know what to do with. From audio equipment to ethics. This is tickling my brain so much I feel more like a stalker than a viewer. Scandalous!
"I feel like a stalker now!" is now officially a compliment. Apparently.
You information pervert! Get outta here you creep! We don’t take kindly to people actually watching videos ‘round these parts.
Parasocial stalking is ok v real stalking. It’s just social media conditioning.
@@AnUnseenRuler Theoretically, all stalking is parasocial, that's the origin behind the stalking behavior, and why so many celebrities have stalking horror stories.
@@kabobawsome You can be stalked by somebody you know 🙄
Just popped in from the latest vid to catch up on some HBomber lore that I missed.
What a wild ride to watch.
I initially subscribed to Luke Stephens before I knew about all this and almost immediately unsubscribed from him when he did a bit complaining about game journalists. He made a bunch of extremely stupid claims and I was turned off to him. This video just cemented my opinion of him.
Based
@@NoodleAsian Same. Watched a bunch of his videos, but somethign was scratching at the back of my head when he alluded to his annoyance with controversies surrounding TLOU2, then Hogwarts Legacy, and he made weird comments about Aloy being "de-sexualized" in Horizon: Forbidden West. A lot of dogwhistling, and I finally started to hear that pitch.
Hi, I’m commenting on a six year old video. Good to see you.
A lot of people might get paranoid about accidentally ripping someone off, and I’m here to alleviate your worries.
First off, good on you for caring about that in the first place.
Second off, genuine plagiarism is a very conscious act. It is not an accident nor cannot BE an accident. Even if two people create two very similar ideas in the same time range, it’d be obvious that no plagiarism happened because those ideas had an equal amount of care put into them.
Plagiarism is born out of ignorance and laziness, and you can see that in the quality of the plagiarist’s work. It’s sloppy, nonsensical at times, and boring, because they’re trying to copy a style that doesn’t suit them. Write down another’s unique thoughts they didn’t think. Mimic a mind that isn’t theirs.
There is a world of difference between quoting or getting inspired by someone. Notice how Hbomberguy notes repeated instances of the same video resembling his? Because that’s plagiarism. It’s not just one quote or one inspired line. It’s the conscious, repeated thievery of someone’s voice.
It’s akin to fraud, because they’re pretending to be someone they’re not. Someone who puts in the time and effort to make something of their own.
You’re fine.
"i want to make videos where if i saw them, i'd be convinced and learn something"
kinda unrelated but your videos on Sherlock and Social Justice related stuff has had that effect, and this is coming from someone who used to hang out with people who proudly called themselves Alt-Right.
why the hell doesn't this have any likes?? good for you, dude!! that's hard emotional work. you should be proud.
signed, some rando in the comments.
I'll echo the other rando and say that's far more effort than most folks put into their politics. Hope you're doing better here!
character growth, you love to see it. hope you're still doing well 6 years later
oh shit the prequel
Had to come back and watch the prequel
Man I love a good prequel
The problem with so many of these is that they're so serious. The person who stole your bloodborne video has sad piano music for no reason. It is not just a copy, it is a worse sad hollow copy. This isn't just a problem with plagiarized videos, but it is worth noting
Today agree. Original is so passionate and aware, while the rip-off has the charisma and confidence of an 8th grade book report.
can't believe the roblox oof sound is actually from this video !
The blueprint
Oh so the 4 hour vid that shook yt and sent James Somerton out of the YT game was a tbt topic late sequel huh
Wow, the pretentious claims from the "sound experts" are just killing me. I'm no expert myself, but after 10 years in hobby music production and recording and being a vocalist in a band, I can't help but laugh how things like Scarlett 214 and SHURE SM7B are considered "real professional audio setup". LOL - it's home\enthusiast broadcasting
ecording level. It's decent, but faaar from professional (although built on the similar\same platform).
Too many guys just looking for a mic setup to have this boring compressed, EQ-ed sound with a mic that has wide low-end just to get this deeper\darker tone from their voice, because a) it's what radio narrators did for a long time, b) it's supposed to give you more confident, more convincing (with a proper intonation) voice.
Both Yeti and your Shures are designed to do just that. And both are fucking fine for this purpose. Especially considering how this content is being consumed (and this is the most important consideration, really). 'Cos it your shitty ear pods\dr. dres\MacBook or other laptop speakers you'll just hear this - a lot of high end and a lot of bass with no original clarity of sound, nuances and "air". Phef, glad I got this out of my system :D Rant over.
I loved the Cloudlifter in the picture, necessary only because the "professional" rig included a preamp with insufficient gain.
ikr. not to mention that the sm7b is a podcaster mic iirc. it's built with talking in mind, so yeah. no fcking wonder it sounds better than an all-round ~$100 mic lmao
What would you recommend that's got a flatter sound profile in the amateur price range?