Plagiarism and You(Tube)

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  • čas přidán 27. 04. 2024
  • What is plagiarism? Where did plagiarism come from? Who made plagiarism? Where am I, plagiarism? Can you help me?
    My Patreon: / hbomb
    My Twitter: / hbomberguy
    Kat's Twitter: / lolkat
    ABSOLUTELY MASSIVE THANKS to Rose (@modernmodron) who made the pixel art for the animated sequence near the end. and who I realised right after uploading I forgot to put in the credits. I'm ashamed. Please check her out HERE:
    / modernmodron
    Second channel video::
    • Iilluminaughtii and th...
    Your New Favourite CZcamsrs:
    • Your New Favorite YouT...
    Chapters:
    0:00:00 Intro
    0:05:09 Filip
    0:27:57 Cinemassacre
    0:42:59 Iilluminaughtii
    1:04:06 CZcams Content Mills
    1:11:41 The LegalEagle Debacle
    1:25:34 Cave Story
    1:49:59 The Twist You Expected
    2:15:11 The Celluloid Closet
    2:21:57 It Got Worse
    2:34:24 HE'S STILL DOING IT
    2:41:49 Shouldn't Need To Do This
    2:50:31 Attack on Attack on Titan
    2:58:15 Does He Know?
    3:04:45 He Started A Film Studio
    3:09:14 The Nightmare
    3:17:00 Turnabout Summertime
    3:20:01 The Cost
    3:29:47 Conclusion
    Useful Links:
    Chris Scullion's response to Filip's plagiarism denial:
    • FIFA 18 review plagiar...

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  • @hbomberguy
    @hbomberguy  Před 4 měsíci +13573

    Second channel video HERE (finally):
    czcams.com/video/403eGkWv4MA/video.html

  • @ThetruemeK
    @ThetruemeK Před 3 měsíci +7853

    "Also, delete your channel." and then he DID

    • @ThetruemeK
      @ThetruemeK Před 2 měsíci +71

      @@tobyriecke3972 James Somerton

    • @arnahunas4048
      @arnahunas4048 Před 2 měsíci +303

      He technically didn’t deleted it (he purged everything from it) but he might as well have

    • @leewood3674
      @leewood3674 Před 2 měsíci +21

      Brilliant stuff fr 😂

    • @Benny-Arts
      @Benny-Arts Před 2 měsíci +303

      @@arnahunas4048He’s gonna try casually come back in future like nothing ever happened

    • @sidneydavidson993
      @sidneydavidson993 Před 2 měsíci +25

      Totally read that in Hbombs voice 😂

  • @cthulhu8164
    @cthulhu8164 Před 4 měsíci +6710

    Ah yes, "If I replace all the words, is it really plagiarism?" the infamous Ship of Thesaurus argument

    • @osoaries
      @osoaries Před 4 měsíci +675

      "Ship of Thesaurus" makes this comment so much better

    • @viviantompkins7925
      @viviantompkins7925 Před 4 měsíci +62

      A++

    • @Demi_Purple
      @Demi_Purple Před 4 měsíci +331

      I actually read that as "theseus" twice before I finally noticed the pun

    • @kjj26k
      @kjj26k Před 4 měsíci +72

      ​@@Demi_Purple
      I had to read the first reply twice over to notice the pun...😅

    • @catharinechen8443
      @catharinechen8443 Před 4 měsíci +35

      I'd give you money for this comment if I could

  • @Cinnaaaaa
    @Cinnaaaaa Před měsícem +4932

    Mankind has learned to fear the second half of an HBomberguy video.

    • @visionvampire1910
      @visionvampire1910 Před měsícem +269

      LITERALLY LMAO I can’t wait for when he releases a video about Minecraft and it turns into why PopularMMO’s went to jail or something lmao

    • @Pllayer064
      @Pllayer064 Před měsícem +10

      Anybody knows what joke that got stolen from him he was talking about??

    • @user-ti6io5hm3d
      @user-ti6io5hm3d Před 21 dnem +2

      @@Pllayer064 Probably one of the ones he stole from Stuart Lee lol

    • @durnsidh6483
      @durnsidh6483 Před 21 dnem +2

      ​@@visionvampire1910 What happened with him?

    • @visionvampire1910
      @visionvampire1910 Před 20 dny +25

      @@durnsidh6483 just the whole spiral he went on after him and Jen broke up, alcoholism and getting arrested and such. Didn’t mean an it as an actual example, but certainly the type of thing he’d deep dive into lol

  • @ErisIsAnAbomination
    @ErisIsAnAbomination Před 19 dny +1588

    It’s absolutely insane to me how drastically Somerton’s tone shifts when he’s talking about women. The way he goes from the Snooty College Professor voice to sounding so vindictive and angry would be comedic if it wasn’t so damn disturbing. Literal cartoon villain behavior.

    • @ohsweatbret
      @ohsweatbret Před 12 dny +140

      The way he is so fucking smug in his videos like “of course there’s quotes in it nyuhh” and without skipping a beat goes to this sad “if you want to unsubscribe from me for missing a source that’s okay 🥺” is insane

    • @larissabrglum3856
      @larissabrglum3856 Před 10 dny +28

      Yeah, like, tell us how you really feel, James

    • @jazwhoaskedforthis
      @jazwhoaskedforthis Před 9 dny +62

      It's sad, too. I appreciate my gay friends because I can have safe, real friendships and community with them without the constant bs you get around the straights. So to realize just how deeply some of them still internalize misogyny has been hard. Some gay men still see women as sex objects, just sex objects they don't WANT and therefore worthless. Which is just the same way straight men treat women they aren't attracted to anyway. They aren't interested in a woman's perspective or opinion because it's not coming from someone they value in that way. I am lucky that a good number of my friends are still very cool people who have avoided this sort of energy, but I've definitely caught a lot of misogyny and misogynoir from some folks in the community.

    • @maddieb.4282
      @maddieb.4282 Před 8 dny

      @@jazwhoaskedforthiswait until you discover the racism within the queer community

    • @overgrownkudzu
      @overgrownkudzu Před 5 dny +39

      i just love the adding of "white" in front of it as if it was a) believable in any way that he doesn't feel this way ab non white women too and b) that even if that were the case, it would somehow be less misogynistic? like dude you're also white don't appropriate genuine criticisms of poc people for your irrational hatred of women

  • @Mossbotmusic
    @Mossbotmusic Před 3 měsíci +8034

    James Somerton the only gay dude who is complaining about being friendzoned by women

    • @marinadavies1917
      @marinadavies1917 Před 3 měsíci +367

      was literally thinking this myself

    • @fakename3010
      @fakename3010 Před 3 měsíci +181

      *whispered* absolutely... DE-STROYYYYYYEEEEEEEEDDDDD

    • @skinnydoofus
      @skinnydoofus Před 3 měsíci +24

      LMAO

    • @Moon_x_sun
      @Moon_x_sun Před 3 měsíci +493

      There some gay guys who are quite comfortable being mysoginist bc theyre gay (like they justify being a mysoginist bc theyre are gay. They just dont say it straight out)

    • @lindsayshanks7555
      @lindsayshanks7555 Před 3 měsíci +282

      It almost feels like he's bitter about women taking all the "good men" from him
      Idk if that's actually the case but it just feels way too bitter to not be personal

  • @ShawnCunningham-96
    @ShawnCunningham-96 Před 4 měsíci +11010

    I used to be subscribed to James Somerton. During one of the few times he admitted that he "accidentally" plagiarized a chapter from a book, I wrote a comment wondering how exactly someone accidentally copies an entire chapter without realizing it. I will never forget what happened next. One of his fans replied to me and asked, "What? Do you want to spank his willy?"
    I think about that comment often.

    • @GaigeGrosskreutzGunClub
      @GaigeGrosskreutzGunClub Před 4 měsíci +2863

      well, do you?!

    • @ElMondiola
      @ElMondiola Před 4 měsíci +2480

      This is one of those questions that give you an existencial crisis, both for the question and why it was asked

    • @greasygranpapy7529
      @greasygranpapy7529 Před 4 měsíci +93

      Lol

    • @clementinedanger
      @clementinedanger Před 4 měsíci +1167

      Well shit, that's going to be my reply to everything now.

    • @LimeyLassen
      @LimeyLassen Před 4 měsíci +1421

      Destroyed with facts and logic

  • @NocturnalTyphlosion
    @NocturnalTyphlosion Před 29 dny +2027

    it's still fucking wild to me how james unironically did the "they dont treat you like a friend, they treat you like an item" speech from the snapcube 06 dub

    • @Toast-com
      @Toast-com Před 26 dny +374

      "Sometimes, I wish I could be more than just an accessory to these women." -Mephiles the Dark, Sonic 06 Snapcube Fandub

    • @bluebow5014
      @bluebow5014 Před 25 dny +202

      AINT NO FUCKING WAY
      WHEN WE SEEIN HIS GAMER PAD

    • @malachiatkinson7245
      @malachiatkinson7245 Před 20 dny +136

      ​@@Toast-comMemphis Tennessee, you mean. And he's part lizard

    • @daydreams4232
      @daydreams4232 Před 19 dny

      ​@@malachiatkinson7245 He's also vape smoke and contained in the perfect shape

    • @henrynelson9301
      @henrynelson9301 Před 19 dny

      “That just makes you a beta cuck…”

  • @cursedcontent4207
    @cursedcontent4207 Před měsícem +4687

    Every time I listen to this, there's a new part in the first half that just makes me think "FORESHADOWING IS A LITERARY DEVICE IN WHICH-"

    • @andiaradan
      @andiaradan Před měsícem +112

      Oh thank god I thought it was just me

    • @p-__
      @p-__ Před 29 dny +5

      My farts are better than hbomberguy’s farts 💨

    • @777themoose
      @777themoose Před 28 dny +47

      I'm still waiting for the video where he makes a doughnut (if you don't know what I mean stick around after the credits)

    • @maddieS117
      @maddieS117 Před 22 dny +104

      One of my favorite things about this video is the shot at 2:30 when Harry sets down a copy of Analog on top of some other books, those books foreshadowing the instances of plagiarism he'll be talking about

    • @hannahfanning9585
      @hannahfanning9585 Před 21 dnem +25

      ​@@maddieS117 oh man I didn't notice that, that's so good

  • @painfullyavarage4316
    @painfullyavarage4316 Před 4 měsíci +14138

    Every single subject in this video is the epitome of “Why would I need to take an ethics class? I’m a business major”

    • @kayakr17
      @kayakr17 Před 4 měsíci +599

      Not sure if it's better or worse that most business majors (not sure where he graduated from) actually do take ethics classes as part of the degree program.

    • @DeathbatOfSpades
      @DeathbatOfSpades Před 4 měsíci +1077

      @@kayakr17im convinced they use them to get around actually using ethics

    • @silverthedruid4754
      @silverthedruid4754 Před 4 měsíci +161

      ​@@DeathbatOfSpadeswe do

    • @duncanluciak5516
      @duncanluciak5516 Před 4 měsíci

      I dunno, maybe if they paid attention in high school English, they may have caught enough to be less shit.

    • @AxelSpinnet
      @AxelSpinnet Před 4 měsíci +446

      @@kayakr17 Lots engineers do as well, but then the Department will basically be financed by the Military Industrial Complex anyway.

  • @lostedge7852
    @lostedge7852 Před 4 měsíci +112031

    I suddenly have a great idea for a four hour long video on plagiarism

    • @SylviaRustyFae
      @SylviaRustyFae Před 4 měsíci +7028

      Be sure to do stuff like mispronounce Somerton and just say the wrong word entirely here and there

    • @madpie5147
      @madpie5147 Před 4 měsíci +4483

      just came up with a fantastic four hour long video idea for plagiarism

    • @Platifire
      @Platifire Před 4 měsíci +2914

      something came to my mind to produce a four hour long video speaking about plagiarism

    • @slowbros1048
      @slowbros1048 Před 4 měsíci +2131

      I think I think i saw that one, actually. It was one of the many sources i used in my 4 hour long plagiarism documentary. There was this annoying stuff in the corner i had to blur out though

    • @vulpes7079
      @vulpes7079 Před 4 měsíci +490

      @@SylviaRustyFae Jamie Somérton

  • @hedixnightingale4200
    @hedixnightingale4200 Před 15 dny +780

    There's a line in here that really sticks with me: "when someone tries to use language to imply what they did happened by magic, they make it pretty clear they're trying to deceive you." I keep coming back to it because someone speaking to me like that was the switch that flipped in my brain and made me realize I was in an abusive relationship. I know that's kind of heavy for the comment section, but it's been echoing in my brain since I first heard it. Really hit home. Anyway, thanks

    • @kinsey7894
      @kinsey7894 Před 12 dny +36

      Hope you’re doing well!!❤️

    • @hedixnightingale4200
      @hedixnightingale4200 Před 12 dny +30

      @@kinsey7894 I am, this was years ago, but thank you!

    • @zubetp
      @zubetp Před 10 dny +48

      yup. passive voice vs. active voice. it's really poor writing, too. "joe changed the lightbulb" vs. "the lightbulb was changed."
      "i threw your dead mom's porcelain music box against the wall" vs. "your music box broke."
      "we started arguing and i demanded to see your phone, and you wouldn't show me, so i beat the crap out of you" vs. "an altercation that arose from a verbal argument." like the fight was born spontaneously as opposed to an action that was taken.
      active voice claims the action in a very literal way, and it can be _deeply_ uncomfortable to have to describe things you're not proud of that way. i think a lot of people honestly don't realize they're doing that.
      i recently went through a phase where i watched a lot of circuit court cases, criminal misdemeanor cases, bond revocation hearings, sentencing hearings, parole hearings, etc. over the course of several months, i can think of 2 times the defendant/parole applicant used active voice and didn't externalize the blame at all. even when they're pleading guilty or trying to explain what they learned from victim awareness classes - they're physically in the process of admitting out loud to what they did - they still really struggle with it. they frequently try to share blame to make it easier on themselves. "i was in the wrong because i shouldn't have allowed myself to be in that situation." what situation? the one where your son had a super punchable face? it's a dance of evasiveness.
      it's "the incident." it's "what happened." it's "what we [my victim and i] did." it's "we were fighting. i agreed to take the blame because she's pregnant."
      they also like to frame the victim as being unreliable by including extraneous, unflattering details. combined with passive voice, this very successfully obfuscates the actor in the situation. "my wife and i were fighting because of her drinking problem." "we got into a fight because she was jealous of my coworker, she thinks i was flirting with her." this is _technically_ correct, so when their wife almost inevitably gets her hackles up about it, _she_ looks and feels like the unreasonable one. and in a reality where she _is_ the unreasonable one, she is the reason he was cited for a domestic assault, or whatever happened. (i'm thinking of a handful of specific cases, but women can be abusers and men can be victims. just for the record.)
      anyway! you were really insightful to realize that's what was happening - it's a word game - and i'm glad you got away from that person. you deserve control over your own reality.

    • @fortunatecookie
      @fortunatecookie Před 6 dny +20

      I’ve also noticed another context in which that phrase applies: assault.
      Sexual or otherwise, you see a lot of language that reframes instances of assault as almost being a force of nature instead of a decision made by a person. This basically always leads to victim blaming in someway.
      “If you hadn’t worn that/walked there/gotten drunk/hung out with those people, then that wouldn’t have happened to you” no, what you mean to say is that “if I hadn’t done something wrong, then a person wouldn’t have made the decision to assault me” but you can’t say that because you don’t know if that’s true or not.
      People love to pretend that assault is predictable enough to avoid. Get flood insurance if you live in a tidal area. Dress modestly if you’re around men. One of these sentiments can help you avoid something tragic. The other is trying to convince you that somebody’s actions were done by magic.

    • @Acrylescent
      @Acrylescent Před 3 dny

      You’re welcome

  • @meghanmc9372
    @meghanmc9372 Před měsícem +1776

    "Women see gay men as disposable" No James, you see gay women as disposable. But you have it so much worse than us, right?

    • @prageruwu69
      @prageruwu69 Před 28 dny +2

      i still can't believe he thinks that. gay men obviously have it horrible too but i know from experience that when people see you as a lesbian they treat you like dirt, it's not "more accepted" than gay men.

    • @ms.cartoonist9576
      @ms.cartoonist9576 Před 26 dny +145

      That's a thing we call ✨PROJECTION✨

    • @wareforcoin5780
      @wareforcoin5780 Před 24 dny +2

      He's clearly been disposed of by a woman, but it most likely was more to do with being trash than gay.

    • @Froggeh92
      @Froggeh92 Před 19 dny +70

      Gay. But seriously haha i dont get why he thinks hes immune to misoginy and that women deserve no sympathy in queer circles. Its puzzling

    • @josephine-rt6jw
      @josephine-rt6jw Před 19 dny +132

      @@Froggeh92 it's kind of a prevalent issue within the queer community. I know a lot of gay men who seem to think that they are immune to being sexist, and blame women for all issues they face within society

  • @echo12345ish
    @echo12345ish Před 4 měsíci +8730

    Subbing to someones Patreon because you admire them only to realize they stole your work without crediting is a whole new level of fucked

    • @conker13245
      @conker13245 Před 4 měsíci +274

      Yeah that part hit like a mack truck

    • @Peapodzilla
      @Peapodzilla Před 4 měsíci +21

      I missed this part. Whos Patreon?

    • @GCAbleism158
      @GCAbleism158 Před 4 měsíci +162

      ​@@Peapodzilla2:30:45 you'll get the info there.

    • @jacklee469
      @jacklee469 Před 4 měsíci +262

      @@Peapodzilla someone who subs to James Somerton's Patron found out that he literally stole her intellectual property

    • @mintybadger6905
      @mintybadger6905 Před 4 měsíci +112

      I actually gasped out loud.

  • @The10renren10
    @The10renren10 Před 4 měsíci +4755

    “Legal eagle is no longer the one good lib” being read by legal eagle is fucking funny.

    • @linasayshush
      @linasayshush Před 4 měsíci +439

      Besides, we all know Contrapoints is the one good lib.

    • @jamescharles5907
      @jamescharles5907 Před 4 měsíci +218

      the serfs has brain damage lol

    • @WangleLine
      @WangleLine Před 4 měsíci +121

      oh my god I didn't even notice that LMAO

    • @CaptainAricDeron
      @CaptainAricDeron Před 4 měsíci +913

      In the end credits, Legal Eagle is credited as "The Good Lib" and I died laughing.

    • @q3st1on19
      @q3st1on19 Před 4 měsíci +94

      I kept on thinking I was mishearing other people's voices till the credits lol. Tantacrul cameo made me loose it

  • @TheGringuish12
    @TheGringuish12 Před měsícem +1322

    The existential dread and horror of being held accountable by getting secondhalfofthevideo'd by hbomb

    • @artemis1123
      @artemis1123 Před měsícem +17

      We’re next

    • @maedle99
      @maedle99 Před měsícem +61

      Them'll

    • @noiseformusic
      @noiseformusic Před měsícem +54

      just trying to live my life in a way where neither Harry Brewis nor Dan Olson ever have a reason to absolutely ether me online

    • @kata9553
      @kata9553 Před 27 dny +4

      The Ronan Farrow of video essayists

  • @paolo2763
    @paolo2763 Před měsícem +1114

    Honestly linking a pirated video in your list of _sources_ is such a hilarious move

    • @remingtonn_
      @remingtonn_ Před 19 dny +66

      id do it tbh.
      not the plagiarism part. just having blatantly pirated stuff in my source list because it's funny and i

    • @salt3685
      @salt3685 Před 19 dny +20

      ⁠@@remingtonn_ wow you’re so quirky

    • @remingtonn_
      @remingtonn_ Před 19 dny +72

      @@salt3685 ty bbg

    • @gem9535
      @gem9535 Před 16 dny +42

      I'm honestly not that mad about it since modern streaming services are such horsesh*t. At least $15 a month, but you still get ads, even though no commercials was why people left cable in the first place.
      It's pirate time~

    • @RedNayl
      @RedNayl Před 14 dny +13

      ​@@remingtonn_I don't have anything against piracy (unless it's indie stuff being pirated) but people who make it apart of their personality are some of the most obnoxious around.

  • @xanathar8659
    @xanathar8659 Před 4 měsíci +7204

    "What teenage girl did this to you in highschool James, and why are you inserting fanfiction about her into an article you stole instead of going to therapy?" is easily my favourite quote of this entire video

    • @SomeMaoriDude
      @SomeMaoriDude Před 4 měsíci +87

      It's probably plagiarized

    • @stationshelter
      @stationshelter Před 4 měsíci

      what a huge snub to "most fuckable twink"

    • @Sorreltail768
      @Sorreltail768 Před 4 měsíci +17

      what is?@@SomeMaoriDude

    • @SomeMaoriDude
      @SomeMaoriDude Před 4 měsíci +9

      @@Sorreltail768 The quote mentioned above

    • @matthiasmccormack3213
      @matthiasmccormack3213 Před 4 měsíci +556

      I think calling Lukiepoo “the most fuckable twink,” might’ve been an even better line

  • @SqueakyNeb
    @SqueakyNeb Před 4 měsíci +25467

    hbomberguy being hard on himself for overusing "it turns out" but it turns out that with the topics he covers IT DOES REPEATEDLY TURN OUT

    • @IcoOst
      @IcoOst Před 4 měsíci +1167

      first I wasn't not sure, but it turns out that this is actually a good comment

    • @user-yt3vd3pw2g
      @user-yt3vd3pw2g Před 4 měsíci +526

      yeah! if you see this, hbo: it's never felt like a weird phrase to me at all, even used so frequently. it comes off as a natural expressive hallmark of your style.
      (if you'll let me cook) it gives the impression you're just passively observing and drawing connections along with us as you present info, always returning the personal reaction to the public story unfolding; you leave your agency in the way you investigate and uncover info, and the way you reflect on the implications of people's behaviour, but you let the facts and patterns of people's behaviour just 'turn out'.
      I think people sometimes overemphasise style, when most of us are really craving substance, idk. I often ramble insufferably (as above) and I get that as a public creator you're concerned with being easy to parse, but the real quality of good writing is being able to convey your perspective in a connected way. hbomb comes off as a real conscientious, careful guy and that goes a long way imo.
      hm, makes me think, though - about the genre of 'video essays'. they don't generally have very good writing... obviously there are loads of dogshit video essayists, but even the 'good' (imo) ones aren't great at making cogent, connected points and theses. they're more loosely connected interesting observations and incomplete explorations; fodder for you to idly absorb. the tropes everyone makes fun of are exactly to do with this lol. careful composition that's reluctant to just make a clear point.

    • @johsonug92
      @johsonug92 Před 4 měsíci +50

      This is a gold star comment.

    • @AdallynD
      @AdallynD Před 4 měsíci +285

      hbomberguy wasn't lying
      That it really do turns out

    • @thomaskarnick9539
      @thomaskarnick9539 Před 4 měsíci +87

      People dont think it be like it is but it do

  • @samwilliams7572
    @samwilliams7572 Před 6 dny +163

    There’s something funny to me about all the internet historian fans insisting he didn’t do anything wrong. Because you know who DOES think he did something wrong? Internet Historian! If he thought what he was doing wasn’t a big deal he wouldn’t have tried to hide it as hard as he did, he would have just owned it.

    • @polkarfield
      @polkarfield Před 5 dny +32

      If he didn’t do anything wrong he would have tried to defend himself instead of pretending like it never happened

    • @mitchconner403
      @mitchconner403 Před 5 dny +21

      I think it is ironic how similar this is to that CNN video Internet Historian made then deleted.
      He criticized CNN for suing that redditor or whatever, but it turns out that was wrong.
      Then he takes the moral high ground and blasts them and being shocked that they didn’t give an apology.
      😂 I guess he has the same moves when that tables are turned.

    • @dogski2822
      @dogski2822 Před 28 minutami

      Same thing with Somerton. He keeps claiming that he simply forgot to credit people because of his ADHD (as if that’s a reasonable excuse to being with) yet has spent years trying to hide his plagiarism and silence anyone who notices. That’s not the actions of someone who made an honest mistake; that’s someone who knows he did something wrong and is trying to cover it up.

  • @BeehiveBoy
    @BeehiveBoy Před měsícem +2473

    This made me go read that article that internet historian copied. It was an amazing telling of the story and so tragic at the end I genuinely cried. Lucas Riley truly is an amazing writer.

    • @crazyinsane500
      @crazyinsane500 Před měsícem +79

      Which one? After this dropped people looked and found *all* his non-internet related historical videos were plagiarized.

    • @reda-exe
      @reda-exe Před měsícem +254

      ​@@crazyinsane500 OP said they read the article that WAS plagiarized, not watched an IH video. they read the man in the cave story, the original one.

    • @BeehiveBoy
      @BeehiveBoy Před měsícem +104

      @@reda-exe yes!! The one by Lucas Riley. I 100% recommend the read

    • @leonmagnus90
      @leonmagnus90 Před měsícem

      R​@@reda-exe

    • @Slann88
      @Slann88 Před měsícem +27

      @@crazyinsane500oh no really? I am not surprised but man that’s really bad

  • @bimpadimp
    @bimpadimp Před 4 měsíci +3704

    plagiarists getting facts wrong feels like they're getting a couple questions on the test wrong on purpose so the teacher doesn't think they're cheating

    • @ChristianNeihart
      @ChristianNeihart Před 4 měsíci +55

      A good lesson taught poorly is worse than not being taught at all. A bad lesson taught well does more harm still.

    • @darkhobo
      @darkhobo Před 4 měsíci +10

      Hah like they would put in that much effort

    • @p-__
      @p-__ Před 4 měsíci +1

      My farts are better than hbomberguy’s farts 💨

    • @wildfire9280
      @wildfire9280 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@Pedro_Larroza I’m guessing these “friends” didn’t stay around long after?

    • @Klinkertinlegs
      @Klinkertinlegs Před 4 měsíci

      Or it is their version of Paper Towns, so they will know when someone plagiarizes them, because if Illuminati is an example, they REALLY don’t like people stealing the things they stole.

  • @Chlocean
    @Chlocean Před 3 měsíci +4941

    James Somerton: "I'm going to demonstrate how queer women have it easier in society by taking credit for a queer woman's work and SOMEHOW getting more attention for it somehow."

    • @zephyr8072
      @zephyr8072 Před 3 měsíci

      That is fairly typical of the misogynistic mindset, sadly enough.

    • @dinkelheit88
      @dinkelheit88 Před 3 měsíci

      It's just misogyny, it's very common with male homosexuals for a whole laundry list of both traumatic and vane motivations.
      He probably thinks so little of women that he doesn't care that, that's what he's doing.

    • @THEJPIndustry
      @THEJPIndustry Před 3 měsíci +109

      I watched this video so often i just love that there are regularly nrw top comments
      So that i can read new stuff for my 14th warch

    • @SuperPhunThyme9
      @SuperPhunThyme9 Před 3 měsíci +5

      bro they do have it easier. Than _anyone_ You are literally crusading for them right now and don't even fuckn know it.
      Most demographics don't, in fact have an army of citizens protecting them from the basic social accountability the rest of society is held to.

    • @shmuel5352
      @shmuel5352 Před 3 měsíci

      @@SuperPhunThyme9 is it really easier to believe that queer people, a people that have been oppressed throughout most of recorded history, are now shadow puppeting society for their army so that they have it better than ANYONE else.
      OR
      the people that have held the dominant power throughout most of recent history have been making everyone else's lives worse for their own personal gain using their literal armies that they currently have right now

  • @Neville133
    @Neville133 Před měsícem +449

    "If you're a nerd, and look at you,...."
    Damn the casual shade before moving onto the point was a devastating blow.

    • @wahoodotwav
      @wahoodotwav Před 18 dny +6

      i think this coming from someone with mspa reader as their icon makes it even funnier

    • @henrynelson9301
      @henrynelson9301 Před 12 dny +8

      That’s just knowing his audience

    • @j-skullz
      @j-skullz Před 19 hodinami +1

      Me playing Elden Ring while listening to this:

  • @alfred8936
    @alfred8936 Před měsícem +430

    "The Gay Witching Hour" is such an underrated tidbit from this video

  • @TheBlueEyePirate
    @TheBlueEyePirate Před 4 měsíci +12138

    James Somerton has the power to do the funniest thing in the world by making an apology video entirely plagiarized from other bad apology videos.

    • @rakino4418
      @rakino4418 Před 4 měsíci +1426

      He'd never think of something that original

    • @surpriseandterror9698
      @surpriseandterror9698 Před 4 měsíci +730

      TOOT TOOT Toxic Gossip Train pulling into the station yet again!

    • @itme999
      @itme999 Před 4 měsíci +399

      ​​@@surpriseandterror9698i was JUST going to say that I hope it includes a ukulele 😂

    • @yogarcia6066
      @yogarcia6066 Před 4 měsíci +502

      "I'm not a plagiarist, I'm just an archivist!"

    • @ManzanaDeMuerte
      @ManzanaDeMuerte Před 4 měsíci +127

      he has a second channel called gays behaving badly and the comments are still open.

  • @glyph1869
    @glyph1869 Před 4 měsíci +15271

    "If I was plagiarizing people all the time, I wouldn't... have a CZcams channel."
    - James Somerton, guy who no longer has a CZcams channel

    • @sylvan-dreams
      @sylvan-dreams Před 4 měsíci +240

      wait what srsly??? i just finished this video and know no follow up

    • @glyph1869
      @glyph1869 Před 4 měsíci +1050

      @@sylvan-dreams He deleted everything and ran the day after this video came out.

    • @cadekachelmeier7251
      @cadekachelmeier7251 Před 4 měsíci +563

      ​@@glyph1869 In his apology video that just came out, he says he wants to bring it back. 🍿🍿🍿

    • @ashikjaman1940
      @ashikjaman1940 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@cadekachelmeier7251 I hope he gets flooded with copyright claims

    • @SomeOne-vf1rs
      @SomeOne-vf1rs Před 4 měsíci +138

      @@cadekachelmeier7251Lol. Lmao

  • @saskie1339
    @saskie1339 Před měsícem +669

    as a sapphic person who watched Jame's content for a good amount of time, I think I really internalized the whole "queer women have it easier" which really led me to a lot of messed up stuff about not feeling like my own experiences with homophobia were real or valid. It was such a relief to watch this and realize, that the experiences of queer men and queer women are different, not more or less "bad". Yes in some cases laws could be more strict on male homosexuality due to homosexuality between women not being take seriously or just seen as two gals being pals, but queer women face so many struggles as well that are no less worth respecting than queer men.

    • @saskie1339
      @saskie1339 Před měsícem +19

      also "queer women get to represent themselves in media" is the funniest fucking thing I've ever heard considering that the most popular "type" lesbian media is created by and for the pleasure of straight men.

    • @kosuzumotoori
      @kosuzumotoori Před měsícem +5

      They can be true at the same time. You are in fact discriminated against and you shouldn't feel invalid about that. However men's gayness is often more discriminated against then women's. In fact, several countries in the past and present only criminilize men's homosexuality, it's one of the best examples. But it can also manifest differently because of the overlap of discrimination and intersectionality. All of this to say, it's not completely wrong to say that gay men have it in average worse than gay women. It's a different story for trans people though.

    • @pigeon842
      @pigeon842 Před měsícem +68

      ​@@kosuzumotoorithis is true but it doesn't deny the fact that Somerton was intentionally dismissive because he really does think women and queer women have it "way" easier than queer men. He was just saying the same old misogynistic rethoric that a lot of gay men like to believe they aren't a part of. Not to mention he seemed spiteful and jealous like it wasn't men who put those rules for (gay) men in the first place.
      He may be right to say queer women have it "easier" but the way he said it sounded like he was putting the blame on women and shaming them thus people like OP think their experiences are invalid.

    • @gem9535
      @gem9535 Před měsícem +2

      @@kosuzumotooriGay wom3n get graped (remove the g) and are forced to marry abusive men who 'beat' the gay out of them. Gay men face legal repercussions more because they're still seen as people while women are seen as property to be controlled.
      Gay men and women both go through struggles. Stop playing the 'who gets discriminated the most!" game. It's tedious, usually never accurate, and just further divides us.

    • @goingunder2548
      @goingunder2548 Před měsícem +14

      @@kosuzumotoori But even for trans people a similar thing happens. There's this notion that if you're a trans man you don't experience any transphobia that matters and that you have male privilege so your life is as easy as a cis man's. I've seen this argument too many times for it to be coincidence. Yes, trans women are more likely to be murdered and assaulted, usually by cishet men, especially if they work in the sex industry, and the attitudes transphobia media outlets have towards trans women vs trans men are different (trans women are predators, while trans men are usually 'confused victims').
      But that still doesn't mean they aren't kicked out, disowned and denied healthcare at a similar rate, not to mention how trans men usually still have a functioning uterus and have important reproductive rights that are always referred to as 'women's issues' to add insult to injury. And anyone who dares to describe pregnancy, abortion, certain cancers and menstruation as something 'people' experience, get accused of hating women, so medical establishments keep excluding trans men and NB people with uteruses, making them less likely to book appointments for important things like Pap smears.

  • @jprofio
    @jprofio Před měsícem +1339

    The way Somerton talks about women is something that I, as a trans man, really dislike about some of the cis male lgbt community. I've gotten a lot of crap from cis gay guys bc according to them "vagina=woman" and "vaginas are gross ew". It's not a great environment to be in, and I think people don't seem to realize that this type of misogyny also turns into transmasc transphobia
    Edit: For the record, any transphobic comments on this are just gonna get reported for hate speech. I'm not going to give any of y'all the satisfaction of an argument.

    • @bobbsurname3140
      @bobbsurname3140 Před měsícem +16

      lol

    • @elijahisconfused
      @elijahisconfused Před měsícem +178

      yeah as a fellow trans guy i understand not being intimately attracted to someone because of their genitals but it's shitty to make a big deal out of it

    • @kostajovanovic3711
      @kostajovanovic3711 Před měsícem

      ​@@bobbsurname3140curious

    • @gem9535
      @gem9535 Před měsícem +136

      Experienced this as a gay woman and it's incredible how many gay guys think they can't be misogynist 'cause they're gay.

    • @margaretgibbs6673
      @margaretgibbs6673 Před měsícem +87

      Yeah! I think a thing a lot of people miss in the fun of dunking on This One Guy...is that he got away with it so long partly because he's not unique at all in *this.*
      Too many queer people think that being queer in and of itself makes you automatically immune from criticism for anything besides garden variety homophobia. We don't have to do any work to unlearn any internalized stuff relating to transphobia fatphobia racism, misogyny if we're gay! And you can basically get away with it all too often especially if you find a way to frame your prejudices as either stemming from deep personal trauma or as actually something super woke. (I'm not shitting on these women I made up to get mad at because I have a problem with them, but because they um. These tooootally real people erased queer men in this show or movie!!! They're homophobic!!)
      Like, maybe James has had bad experiences in the past with straight girls mistreating him in high school but even if he did, so what?? Lots of people do and manage not to still blame women for all your problems years later. Or be somehow both mistakenly-misogynistic and also transphobic at the same time to at least two different transmasc creators. At a certain point as an adult you have to stop using your own personal neuroses and history as a free pass to treat people like shit or spread harmful ideas.

  • @michiyaslana5974
    @michiyaslana5974 Před 2 měsíci +13565

    Imagine being caught plagiarizing by a guy who half-assedly listened to your video while he was building an ikea bookshelf. Beautiful.

    • @LogCabinMusic
      @LogCabinMusic Před 2 měsíci +1280

      not even an ikea bookshelf. an *argos* bookshelf. that's a whole new low

    • @jesseerven4859
      @jesseerven4859 Před 2 měsíci +63

      this youtube also got busted for plagiarizing the same way so that is some irony

    • @wavierdig
      @wavierdig Před 2 měsíci +281

      Imagine being caught plagiarizing by someone who quarter-assedly listened to your video while he was building a bookshelf. Fantastic

    • @AverageConsumer-uj8sm
      @AverageConsumer-uj8sm Před 2 měsíci

      @@jesseerven4859 ?

    • @adammgolan
      @adammgolan Před 2 měsíci +235

      @@jesseerven4859 hbomberguy? Where have you read this?

  • @JamieHill-he1yf
    @JamieHill-he1yf Před 4 měsíci +6675

    the "shouldnt need to do this" segment gives "youre gay because you love men, im gay because i hate women, we are not the same" vibes

    • @geekzombie8795
      @geekzombie8795 Před 4 měsíci +62

      Lel true

    • @ringtail99
      @ringtail99 Před 4 měsíci

      @@geekzombie8795 he is gay because he hates women that is true

    • @chud-of4yb
      @chud-of4yb Před 4 měsíci +3

      Who said that?

    • @guysir1130
      @guysir1130 Před 4 měsíci +2

      ​​@@chud-of4ybnobody, its a meme

    • @4203105
      @4203105 Před 4 měsíci +442

      @@chud-of4yb I'm not sure a gay man ever said that, but "political lesbianism" is a thing in radical feminism and basically boils down to "I'm a lesbian because I hate men."

  • @thriftedjumper8767
    @thriftedjumper8767 Před měsícem +451

    I was a huge fan of James when he announced Telos, and i lived local to him. He continuously talked down all artistic groups in our local area when prompted, and when I spoke to industry friends around when he said things were in production, they had never heard of it.

  • @deepthoughtswithshaurya
    @deepthoughtswithshaurya Před 26 dny +408

    Hbomberguy is the only person who can make someone with more than a million subs disable all their comments (even though they’d keep their comments after being exposed for much worse things, but since this video was so well executed not even their standom could keep the comment section positive), someone with more than three million disappear for months (though their fans are used to it, at this point), and someone who used to have three hundred thousand (before he destroyed that sub count too) go in an endless cycle of crappy apologies. All in one really well made video essay that has such high quality that so many people are still coming back to rewatch this masterpiece. Crap, I made this comment months after it got released and when most of us watched this video, and somebody’s still going to read this.

  • @kaitomaitoamv7114
    @kaitomaitoamv7114 Před 4 měsíci +6637

    Catching James having the AreTheyGay video on his timeline is the most actual detective work BBC Sherlock has ever been involved with.

    • @ashleywilliams4896
      @ashleywilliams4896 Před 4 měsíci +187

      Underrated comment

    • @p-__
      @p-__ Před 4 měsíci +19

      My farts are better than hbomberguy’s farts 💨

    • @me_n_the_boys_lookin_for_beans
      @me_n_the_boys_lookin_for_beans Před 4 měsíci

      @@p-__i will piss in your petrol tank

    • @dhruvtukadiya
      @dhruvtukadiya Před 4 měsíci +200

      ​@@p-__how do these bots not realise that they're just helping hbomberguy get more engagement with their spam

    • @ashikjaman1940
      @ashikjaman1940 Před 4 měsíci +133

      ​@@dhruvtukadiya My guy please don't respond to the bots

  • @illustriouscowlover
    @illustriouscowlover Před 4 měsíci +9556

    You can tell hbomberguy wrote this script because he constantly tries and fails not to go down rabbit holes in it

    • @SnakebitSTI
      @SnakebitSTI Před 4 měsíci +847

      "But where did the mistaken weight for the rock come from!?" lol
      ... I am genuinely curious though. Dear hbomberguy, please make a follow up video if you find out, thanks.

    • @dhruvtukadiya
      @dhruvtukadiya Před 4 měsíci +734

      ​@@SnakebitSTIif you convert pounds (the currency, not weight) to dollars, you get 33.
      This is information that I definitely found out myself and didn't plagiarise from another comment that I can't find anymore.

    • @ville__
      @ville__ Před 4 měsíci +9

      Didn’t ask + hbomber steals my content so he can get more money and views..

    • @sacripan4425
      @sacripan4425 Před 4 měsíci +308

      ​@@ville__Did he steal the milk your father was looking for too?

    • @SnakebitSTI
      @SnakebitSTI Před 4 měsíci +118

      @@ville__ The only content you have is is posting that repeatedly lol

  • @01tripl3
    @01tripl3 Před 29 dny +338

    this video has sung me to sleep for 3 months straight

    • @katie-8452
      @katie-8452 Před 29 dny +25

      read this comment while turning it on to go to sleep

    • @michaelmonstre
      @michaelmonstre Před 28 dny +3

      @@katie-8452 Same

    • @noiseformusic
      @noiseformusic Před 25 dny +14

      I have a sleep playlist that's literally just this and three Folding Ideas videos

    • @annaandre9131
      @annaandre9131 Před 25 dny +3

      Same! Good night 💤

    • @gem9535
      @gem9535 Před 16 dny

      Yeeeeep.

  • @RomWatt
    @RomWatt Před 14 dny +159

    Funny that the Internet Historian was the only one who got some praise from Hbomb and wasn't even in the original thumbnail, but now he is after his fans got mad about this video.

    • @tright6
      @tright6 Před 14 dny +32

      He was in the original thumbail just less visible

    • @sealeo5772
      @sealeo5772 Před dnem

      I also find it kind of interesting how Internet Historian helps show who can get away with plagiarism and who can't. Channels like James Somerton who tried to act professional and scholarly or Blair who had courted a mostly progressive audience that cares about ethical practices and quality research got completely unexisted, while guys like Lukiepoo, Internet Historian or the dozens of content farms or alt-right propaganda outlets that have gotten aired out in the many plagiarism exposed videos that have come out after this have all just kind of kept chugging along. They all courted an audience that doesn't really care, Internet Historian's twitter followers seem to think that Harris is just part of a Jewish conspiracy to take him down, why would they care about plagiarism? You can just get away with plagiarism so long as you don't have fans who would care about it, they'll stand by you and act like it's no big deal.

  • @georgedaole-wellman3950
    @georgedaole-wellman3950 Před 4 měsíci +6981

    The bit where Somerton is basically setting up his co-writer to take the fall for plagiarism allegations made me go from "this guy's an asshole" to "this guy is actually evil".

    • @naten1570
      @naten1570 Před 4 měsíci +1024

      Genuine sociopath behavior, gradually developing a relationship with someone he always intended to ruin if things got hot. Watching him deliberately set Nick up whenever plagiarism was mentioned is chilling. I’m deeply glad HBomb went out of his way to show that Nick was going to be scapegoated so Somerton doesn’t get to play that card and Nick doesn’t get his career ruined.

    • @ThePhantom4516
      @ThePhantom4516 Před 4 měsíci +323

      @@naten1570 I'm glad this video is getting as much attention as it is, him & others must be held accountable. It is not simply about plagiarism, these people are beyond toxic - dangerous even

    • @ninashewchuk8976
      @ninashewchuk8976 Před 4 měsíci +262

      The way he was always so darkly, eerily lit in his videos seems very fitting in retrospect.

    • @Skelath
      @Skelath Před 4 měsíci +248

      I'm surprised how fast he turned off comments and deleted his social media.

    • @avelynn5976
      @avelynn5976 Před 4 měsíci +156

      ​@@Skelath lol he took the flight response instead of coming up with one. far easier than writing an explanation, i suppose.

  • @SongbirdAlom
    @SongbirdAlom Před 2 měsíci +3430

    James Somerton quoting the Encyclopedia Definition of “homosexuality” as part of his essay somehow transcends absurdity and almost eclipses into surrealism.

    • @cyanthrope
      @cyanthrope Před 2 měsíci +184

      he's doing the contraponts bit but without a single shred of irony. Huh.. I wonder if he intentionally tried to rip that off without getting the joke

    • @el_fucko
      @el_fucko Před měsícem +29

      I guess you could almost call it... borderline experimental.

    • @LM-MMM
      @LM-MMM Před měsícem +5

      @@3ln2xnope it's been confirmed that he didn't

    • @agent_of_cthulhu
      @agent_of_cthulhu Před měsícem +2

      @3ln2x the rumor has been all over the internet, so it must be true, right?

    • @kostajovanovic3711
      @kostajovanovic3711 Před měsícem +3

      ​@@el_fuckoI....clapped?

  • @shadowsovereign4948
    @shadowsovereign4948 Před měsícem +267

    Okay so the whole youtube content mill is something I can totally relate to, as there were a lot of channels using Text-to-speech to read out a fanfiction of mine, but they'd use weird titles and avoid saying it was even a fanfiction because they wanted to take credit for it. Not on the same level as fanfiction is always inherently part of someone else's work, but it's those little tricks they use to try and avoid associating with the original creator.

    • @Bruh-zx2mc
      @Bruh-zx2mc Před měsícem +4

      What's the fanfic?

    • @shadowsovereign4948
      @shadowsovereign4948 Před 28 dny +22

      @@Bruh-zx2mc oh man looking back on it it's really quite bad writing. I've gotten better at storytelling as time has gone on, but it's still not very good. It was a crossover between My Hero Academia and Solo Leveling called Shadow Monarch Hero: Deku. The title doesn't even work because he's called Deku like twice in the whole story. Regardless I must've caught some lightning in a bottle or something cause it got pretty popular pretty fast. It's a few years old by now and I'm doing a rewrite of it just to try and improve some of the things I screwed up in the first version.

    • @Bruh-zx2mc
      @Bruh-zx2mc Před 28 dny +4

      @@shadowsovereign4948 Cool, feel free to keep us updated

    • @hannahfanning9585
      @hannahfanning9585 Před 21 dnem +13

      Man, that's fucked up. People really think fanfiction is just up for grabs to do whatever they want with. I hope those videos eventually got taken down and that you keep creating art you're passionate about.

    • @shadowsovereign4948
      @shadowsovereign4948 Před 17 dny +13

      @@hannahfanning9585 CZcams actually acknowledges fanfic as copyright worthy works, so they do work with you. But regardless the day I stop writing is the day I die lol. I don't think much else could stop me from writing. It's definitely my life's passion

  • @jessicascoullar3737
    @jessicascoullar3737 Před měsícem +257

    This video turned up on auto play while I was asleep. I had weird dreams of uncovering plagiarism in a film studio. Never heard of James before this but thanks for drawing attention to this important issue. I’m a teacher and trying to convince my students that plagiarism isn’t a victimless crime can be difficult at times. This has given me a few new ideas on how to approach this issue.

    • @technicolourmyles
      @technicolourmyles Před 7 dny +3

      Make this video required watching, lmao. 5 classes should about cover it?

  • @esserefveermold
    @esserefveermold Před 4 měsíci +22171

    I can't believe straight white women held poor James at gunpoint and made him plagiarize a ton of stuff and make up a bunch of bullshit and present it as historical facts 😭😭😭

    • @JonathanSicoli
      @JonathanSicoli Před 4 měsíci +2447

      It was me. I was just so angry at. Uh. Gamers

    • @rolandlastname6597
      @rolandlastname6597 Před 4 měsíci +263

      My favorite comment

    • @judyh3707
      @judyh3707 Před 4 měsíci +988

      ​@@JonathanSicoligaming racists

    • @rockydt3720
      @rockydt3720 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@JonathanSicoliis it because they're going woke and shoving the woke agenda down your throat?

    • @s4tchm0j0n3s
      @s4tchm0j0n3s Před 4 měsíci +1

      It's always the straight white women!

  • @danfelder8062
    @danfelder8062 Před 4 měsíci +9431

    Hbomberguy is like an internet cryptid. Once a year they appear, drop a bomb, INSIST ON ELABORATING, and then vanish.

    • @psychicbeagle5106
      @psychicbeagle5106 Před 4 měsíci +841

      He's the ancient koi fish who, upon waking from its long slumber, shakes the Earth, ends a fraudster's career, and further breaks that one section of wall.

    • @crookedgamer7183
      @crookedgamer7183 Před 4 měsíci +20

      He is also nonbinary and gay

    • @smellycat57
      @smellycat57 Před 4 měsíci +424

      ​@@crookedgamer7183When you refer to someone who is non-binary, you don't usually refer them with "he" unless it's what they prefer. Also, he's bi not gay

    • @Roguechild
      @Roguechild Před 4 měsíci +18

      Most accurate description I've ever read

    • @fraser7530
      @fraser7530 Před 4 měsíci +40

      It's like the modern day content cop and I'm here for it

  • @AdamX222
    @AdamX222 Před měsícem +181

    I'm sure a million people have already said this, but I just have to say how much I love that this four hour video starts with the line "Tell us the story-- *briefly* "

  • @pinecone606
    @pinecone606 Před měsícem +328

    can we get a 4 hour video on how every single somerton video has the most horrendous lighting ever conceived by man

    • @biggy0917
      @biggy0917 Před měsícem +63

      Also about how his line delivery is the most painstakingly boring, monotone and obnoxious on youtube. Second to that is illuminati

    • @pinecone606
      @pinecone606 Před měsícem +23

      @@biggy0917 you can hear when content creators don't actually have passion for what they are talking about

    • @No.1-Yellow-Wood-Sorrel-Fan
      @No.1-Yellow-Wood-Sorrel-Fan Před měsícem +17

      He can’t make a second video on Somerton, the bastard has been non-stop emailing him and Kat about how he’ll kill himself if they ever make another video on him

    • @blueberrimuffin6682
      @blueberrimuffin6682 Před 21 dnem

      @@No.1-Yellow-Wood-Sorrel-Fan do you have a source for that information?

    • @callmeaprilroseorisha404
      @callmeaprilroseorisha404 Před 20 dny +4

      @@blueberrimuffin6682i think it’s a joke

  • @halfmettlealchemist8076
    @halfmettlealchemist8076 Před 4 měsíci +12998

    With the death of Henry Kissinger, the last seal on Harris Hbomberguy’s power has broken and he has finally achieved his ultimate form: the 4-hour video essay

    • @IfWeRanTheWorldXers
      @IfWeRanTheWorldXers Před 4 měsíci +711

      Don't forget the expulsion of George Santos from the US House of Representatives

    • @hakulives2613
      @hakulives2613 Před 4 měsíci +536

      As if I needed more reason to be thrilled about that fucking GHOUL finally biting it

    • @prospero2405
      @prospero2405 Před 4 měsíci

      I listen to a podcasts called Behind the Bastards that talks about the very worst people of history and I like it a lot, but going there and being the show it is you just know the people there are the scum of the earth, it's not a slow discovery with a twist like hbomb's videos, but still fun to me. Most have one or two parts.
      Kissinger has SIX parts. So I went to their reddit sub the day Kissinger died and I was not disappointed lol fuck that guy

    • @14ElmStreet28
      @14ElmStreet28 Před 4 měsíci +65

      It's kind of funny since the whole reason it's so long is because he keeps playing clips in full, instead of just summarizing them

    • @bozotheclown1142
      @bozotheclown1142 Před 4 měsíci +625

      ​@@14ElmStreet28He needs to post the clips in full, to make an example out of them. He's criticizing Blair for not showing his full tweet video after all, if he turned around and went "Oh btw Internet Historian copied a whole article just trust me I won't show clips just trust me bro" he'd be a hypocrite

  • @mitchm4992
    @mitchm4992 Před 4 měsíci +6810

    Watching Somerton say "if I had been plagiarizing, I wouldn't have a channel" after he deleted his channel feels real good.

    • @leileyaravencroft
      @leileyaravencroft Před 4 měsíci +224

      Oh, he finally deleted his channel?

    • @arahmarborealis4425
      @arahmarborealis4425 Před 4 měsíci +663

      ​@@leileyaravencroftNot quite, the channel still technically remains, but it's been wiped of everything except its name. No videos, no community tab notes, not even a profile picture. I think he's also deleted or made private pretty much every bit of the rest of his online presence as well.

    • @Blueeyesthewarrior
      @Blueeyesthewarrior Před 4 měsíci +374

      Ah, nature is healing

    • @Ehh.....
      @Ehh..... Před 4 měsíci +178

      A man of his word!

    • @craigslist6988
      @craigslist6988 Před 4 měsíci +506

      ​@@Ehh.....well, someone's words anyway.

  • @jerryturgin6583
    @jerryturgin6583 Před měsícem +182

    this is the only "youtube drama" video where you have to watch it multiple times to get the foreshadowing and references it makes super early on. honestly this is so well written, it might be something james somerton plagerizes in years to come

  • @daveski7
    @daveski7 Před 13 dny +131

    The best part of this video is how the Internet Historian debacle has revealed to me the true values of some of my friends.

    • @JaJaBi
      @JaJaBi Před 11 dny +3

      How

    • @JoJo-dj1hj
      @JoJo-dj1hj Před 8 dny +35

      @@JaJaBi Some Internet Historian fans adamantly defend his blatant plagiarism, dismissing how wrong it is. It just feels yucky to see him steal other people's work and how others don't care about his lack of integrity.

    • @rockoman100
      @rockoman100 Před 4 dny

      @@JoJo-dj1hj He did nothing wrong. Plagiarism is a fake problem for IP kulaks

    • @cevatkokbudak6414
      @cevatkokbudak6414 Před 3 dny +1

      LMAO

    • @littlefieryone2825
      @littlefieryone2825 Před hodinou +2

      @@rockoman100 You can't just steal someone else's work, make more money off of it than they ever did, and then pretend you've committed a victimless crime against against a wealthy IP owner.

  • @MobiusFun64
    @MobiusFun64 Před 4 měsíci +4359

    James has an opportunity to do a sick power move where he also makes a 4 hour long video about plagiarism and it's just this one but he replaces his name with your name.

    • @awildsylveon9896
      @awildsylveon9896 Před 4 měsíci +689

      Someone posted a meme to the subreddit of James photoshopped over Colleen Ballinger called "poisonous rumor locomotive"

    • @billmurphy6199
      @billmurphy6199 Před 4 měsíci +275

      It's especially funny to see a joke The Hard Times did 18 hours ago in the comments section of a plagiarism video

    • @matthewtorres1473
      @matthewtorres1473 Před 4 měsíci +13

      Mobius Fun, it’s my birthday today. Play in the bouncy castle in Farbanti.

    • @debodatta7398
      @debodatta7398 Před 4 měsíci +1

      03:27:30 is this like the 3rd or 4th time Hbomb has randomly brought up a fictional white women victimization campaign? and weirdly including it as a joke when mentioning one of the few black creators in the space is peak white privilege and ignorance. What happened with Lindsey Ellis was bad hbomb we know you're angry about it but that doesn't give you the go-ahead to create this narrative that white women are under attack by queer and BIPOC liberals online it's disgusting.

    • @Sir_Bucket
      @Sir_Bucket Před 4 měsíci +145

      ​​@@billmurphy6199I'm losing my mind, how fucking deep does this plagiarism rabbit hole goes

  • @bridgettmeskis9857
    @bridgettmeskis9857 Před 4 měsíci +9954

    I'm in the middle of exam season as a university student and this has been oddly reassuring. My essays might be shit, but at least they're my, properly cited shit.

    • @starrynight2004
      @starrynight2004 Před 4 měsíci +533

      Thank you for this lovely comment! As a fellow university student, I wholeheartedly agrees

    • @MaticTheProto
      @MaticTheProto Před 4 měsíci +718

      too true. And my sentences are so grammatically questionable and convoluted that it‘s clear ChatGPT didn‘t write them either lol

    • @evitaviitala6189
      @evitaviitala6189 Před 4 měsíci +22

      same lol

    • @BlackDeckerRiceCooker
      @BlackDeckerRiceCooker Před 4 měsíci +365

      literally just turned in my 10 paged research paper 3 days ago and still feel it wasnt enough. Happy to know what I wrote was at least out of my own efforts
      update: my professor liked my paper so i passed the sem knowing ive done more for my own benefit than james somerton ever could 🎉🎊🥳

    • @vulpesaustralis1452
      @vulpesaustralis1452 Před 4 měsíci +98

      This! Like, I get all anxious about whether the sentence I wrote sounds maybe very slightly a bit like something else - I can't comprehend the audacity of these people!

  • @shenkie225
    @shenkie225 Před 11 dny +86

    The depressing thing about man in cave- it could have been a genuinely great adapation of that article! if only he were upfront about it and gave credit...

    • @dodixaber8968
      @dodixaber8968 Před 11 dny +34

      Thing is in that particular case, he need to pay licensing fee too hence why he avoid crediting / asking for permission in the first place. IH knew full well doing the right thing would cost him money hence, the plagiarism.

  • @ZackT9225
    @ZackT9225 Před 23 dny +89

    So the aftermath with James Sumerton makes me sick. The emotional manipulation he's pulling and the people who are actually eating it up are making me absolutely furious.

  • @NinjaDuckie
    @NinjaDuckie Před 4 měsíci +4837

    I love that the release of an hbomb video basically now means a death star firing test that kills exactly one person

  • @pinxerata
    @pinxerata Před 4 měsíci +8084

    An interesting realization from this video is that Illuminaughty and James Somerton are both creators who I watched, but failed to keep my attention. As you pointed out, they’re boring, but as a viewer who doesn’t know it’s plagiarism, you can’t tell exactly why. The subjects they present are so eyecatching and suggest an interesting story, but when you watch the videos, they feel like soulless lectures. This is why creatives are so important. It SHOWS when people who aren’t writers try to create things for engagement. They don’t understand the amount of effort that goes into writing a compelling story.

    • @liluttec2844
      @liluttec2844 Před 4 měsíci +813

      This is such a good observation! I was kind of feeling this myself but wasnt sure how to put it into words. They're both creators that would occasionally pop up in my recommendations and I'd watch a bit of their stuff, but was never really interested or impressed enough to actively watch anything else of theirs. You can definitely feel their lack of actual passion in their "craft".

    • @sailorncho
      @sailorncho Před 4 měsíci +523

      This is so freaking interesting to read because I went through the exact same thing I subscribed to Illuminaughty cause I found out about her through one topic and the click but never managed to finish one of her videos, and I found Somerton because I basically wanted more contrapoints content and got a little bored from it when I realized that wasn't quite what I would get, but I could never put my finger on why their videos never resonated with me, always attributed it to my ADHD...

    • @pinxerata
      @pinxerata Před 4 měsíci +347

      @@sailorncho I had basically the same arc as you! Subbed to James Somerton for about a year and I noticed I was only watching the videos about halfway before moving on. I assumed it was my ADHD but looking back, it’s odd that I assumed that when far longer videos have held my attention the entire time, and I usually go back to videos that were genuinely compelling. I feel like when creators are actually passionate about what they’re talking about, they’ll relay the information in a way where they replicate the emotions they felt while discovering every facet of information. The creators that plagiarize, on the other hand, are more focused on the way that THEY look as writers.

    • @MrOttopants
      @MrOttopants Před 4 měsíci +183

      I made a similar comment about Iiliminaughtii. At first I thought it would be interesting content to listen to while working on stuff, but then it just seemed so impersonal. I'm not saying I felt the lack of engagement, it just seemed pretty flat to me.

    • @Spamhard
      @Spamhard Před 4 měsíci +172

      Literally same. I'd tried a few Illumi vids just as they popped up on play next (usually after me watching creators like Atrocity Guide), and despite it being similar, interesting content, I just found the delivery so dry and the video feeling weirdly stilted in comparison to similar content. Meanwhile I subbed to James after watching a few vids of his a year or so back, i found the content pretty interesting, but every time I tried to go back to his vids after the first few, I had the same problem again; the videos felt weird, and his delivery was dry and weirdly over dramatic, like he was trying to add something that wasn't there. I especially didn't like some of the side comments he made (like the misogyny and weird jabs at lesbians), funny to learn that was the only content he wrote himself. Figures.
      Real proof right there that reading content that's not your own, ie audiobooks, is a genuinely hard skill and the creatives who can do it successfully are skilled as all heck.

  • @TheDumbOwl
    @TheDumbOwl Před měsícem +175

    I can't believe you made a 4 hour video on plagiarism just to complete the Pathologic joke

    • @recaffinator
      @recaffinator Před měsícem +6

      Dammit, now I need to go watch that one again... 😂

    • @technicolourmyles
      @technicolourmyles Před 7 dny

      @@recaffinator which one?

    • @cevatkokbudak6414
      @cevatkokbudak6414 Před 3 dny

      ​@@technicolourmylesOof one

    • @technicolourmyles
      @technicolourmyles Před 3 dny +1

      @@cevatkokbudak6414 oh wait, I watched that one. What was the joke? My brain feels fried

    • @cevatkokbudak6414
      @cevatkokbudak6414 Před 3 dny

      @@technicolourmyles Tommy Tallarico is a pathological liar, this is actually not a joke (I'm talking about the wrong things I guess

  • @DuchessChau
    @DuchessChau Před 19 dny +135

    Took me 4 months, but I finished this tell all. And it was worth it! Such a good job.

  • @dgf3308
    @dgf3308 Před 4 měsíci +4990

    The funny thing about 'Man in a cave' is that if he had made a collaboration with the author to animate the story, everyone would have enjoyed it all the same.

    • @octagram2955
      @octagram2955 Před 4 měsíci

      I don't get this hate though. He's saying IH stole the article and reworded, but also that IH got stuff wrong even though it was in the thing IH was stealing from. Doesn't make sense. But I think this is heating up, one of these two may fall

    • @gdmnsdgl
      @gdmnsdgl Před 4 měsíci +214

      the author might not be the rights holder, it’s probably the media company he’d contributed the material to; can’t see it happening

    • @ry4nmaster
      @ry4nmaster Před 4 měsíci +17

      Visiting the video now, it seems the video does link the article as its source. Was it added recently or was it always there?

    • @mirfalltnixein.1
      @mirfalltnixein.1 Před 4 měsíci +577

      @@ry4nmasterKeep watching this video to find out!

    • @grundergesellscahftmkii6196
      @grundergesellscahftmkii6196 Před 4 měsíci +11

      it got added after a while.

  • @fluffskunk
    @fluffskunk Před 4 měsíci +21209

    To be fair to Blare, she was very busy abusing her boyfriend and collaborators.

    • @Sugarman96
      @Sugarman96 Před 4 měsíci +5509

      Being a landlord is very time consuming, she barely had the time to not do plagiarism

    • @occupyvenus4868
      @occupyvenus4868 Před 4 měsíci +26

      God forbid women have hobbies /s

    • @singulariteas
      @singulariteas Před 4 měsíci +3743

      @@Sugarman96not her being a landlord too… the more i learn about this woman the worse it gets 😭

    • @WarisAmirMohammad
      @WarisAmirMohammad Před 4 měsíci +240

      fr@@singulariteas

    • @roseredflechette-vidya
      @roseredflechette-vidya Před 4 měsíci +1773

      @@singulariteas i could tell instantly from her voice, they all have the same soulless, disconnected, anti-social drawl. i could perceive more empathy in the sound of a dial-up modem.
      EDIT: I understand having a dynamic and/or monotone voice doesn't correlate with empathy, but I never said she had a "monotone" voice, and never would have used that word, for the exact reasons people are apparently upset about ("soulless, disconnected, anti-social drawl" is an extremely specific kind of monotone, if anything, but in my mind a landlord voice isn't even necessarily monotone) ..I'm on the spectrum somewhere myself, not all of us have "monotone" voices - me thinking she sounds like a landlord really shouldn't be taken as an attack on fellow neurodivergents... I know a few that not only don't have monotone voices, but are fantastic orators.

  • @cjae4232
    @cjae4232 Před 13 dny +64

    i just finished rewatching this video over on nebula. switched back to youtube and got recommended a video essay by someone called “james of telos”. i just stared it at for a minute and thought “telos? james? no fucking way”
    yes fucking way.

    • @crazyinsane500
      @crazyinsane500 Před 13 dny +37

      Oh yeah. So the fallout of what happened was James faked an unaliving attempt *twice* and then rebranded.
      And before you ask: yes, his rebranded videos are also plagiarized.

    • @maivaiva1412
      @maivaiva1412 Před 12 dny +1

      @@crazyinsane500holy shit what an asshole :D i was genuinely worried for him but nahhhh

    • @littlefieryone2825
      @littlefieryone2825 Před hodinou +1

      @@crazyinsane500 Let's be fair, there's not really any evidence it was fake besides the fact Somerton has lied so often in the past. So it's possible attempted and didn't succeed or stopped at the last minute.
      Still, he definitely should he held accountable for his plagiarism. The healthiest outcome here is for James to stop looking for validation on the internet and go to therapy.

  • @Watson690
    @Watson690 Před 23 dny +123

    I watch a lot of video essays and since watching this I've started googling random sentences from those videos. It's almost disturbing how many CZcamsrs are just directly quoting Wikipedia

    • @bmo14lax
      @bmo14lax Před 22 dny +6

      Of course. If they're not versed in basic English class they wont know how to do their own research. Honestly glad I grew up citing sources in the library as a kid or I'd never be a good writer imo.

    • @NathanWubs
      @NathanWubs Před 21 dnem +9

      Quoting Wikipedia is fine, you just need to admit that you are doing it. It basically has an open source license with the only thing you need to do is say, hey this is wikipedia.

    • @bmo14lax
      @bmo14lax Před 21 dnem +10

      @@NathanWubswhat they mean is they start from Wikipedia and work backwards. Then citing all of Wikipedias sources without citing wiki itself

    • @Watson690
      @Watson690 Před 18 dny +4

      @@bmo14lax The first red flag is that they don't cite any sources at all. They're just verbatim reading wiki articles and passing it off as their own research. I seriously doubt they even go as far as realising wikipedia has sources

  • @DallasSean
    @DallasSean Před 4 měsíci +18037

    hello, all--and thanks for having my back, I very much appreciate it. Harris, I very much appreciate your plans to divvy out whatever funds you may accumulate from this video with those who you mention that have been plagiarized. It's an incredibly honorable thing to do. Please take whatever might be my portion of those funds and divide that up among the rest. I am doing fine financially, and would rather have the money sent to those who may truly need it. (And, if anything, the spread of this video will likely spur sales of "Tinker Belles and Evil Queens"!). All the best

    • @weewooweewoo906
      @weewooweewoo906 Před 4 měsíci +1114

      hope he sees this, bless yahs

    • @tiacat11
      @tiacat11 Před 4 měsíci +1100

      I'm genuinely so sorry for your book, you were directly stolen from and used for profit and I can't begin to muster up the words for why that's wrong. Currently going through a rough patch, financially, but I'd very much like to read Tinker Belles and Evil Queens when I can. I'd love to hear your insight, from you.
      Here's hoping this changes how we engage with media.

    • @shelbygraham4923
      @shelbygraham4923 Před 4 měsíci +904

      I did in fact order your book because of this video, it looked really interesting

    • @tibbygaycat
      @tibbygaycat Před 4 měsíci +497

      Hi as a transwoman I love seeing queer authors get recognition. Thank you! And thank you for posting this here! It's nice to see that we queer people aren't alone!
      Also I might possibly order your book but I already have a lot to read. Regardless I'm glad that these authors are getting recognition! At the least this is a good reading list!

    • @antiksur8883
      @antiksur8883 Před 4 měsíci +181

      ​@@DroolRockwormHis book did, which did not fall upon this earth fully formed.

  • @randomperson01
    @randomperson01 Před 4 měsíci +41819

    Citing a pirating website as a source is the best thing I've ever seen

    • @iphoneShothand
      @iphoneShothand Před 4 měsíci +1484

      Hilariously incompetent

    • @oddmerit6530
      @oddmerit6530 Před 4 měsíci +3449

      unfortunately a rare illuminaughti W

    • @Sonichero151
      @Sonichero151 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@iphoneShothandit's actually pretty based because not everyone that wants to see the source materials wants to pay for a Hulu subscription

    • @0NeeN0
      @0NeeN0 Před 4 měsíci +672

      oh my god blair is on another level of making $hitty "documentaries". I love this material, love you Sir Harris

    • @joshm5514
      @joshm5514 Před 4 měsíci +798

      The fact that she did that is peak comedy

  • @jaronzundel8758
    @jaronzundel8758 Před měsícem +105

    James CURRENTLY has a second channel where he is reuploading plagiarized material!!! The channel is "James of Telos"

    • @marychouvarda6875
      @marychouvarda6875 Před měsícem +10

      AAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @amysteriousstranger1221
      @amysteriousstranger1221 Před měsícem +15

      It really is fascinating how a person can be so utterly narcissistic that he continues to post plagiarism after a person thoroughly tore him apart for plagiarism

    • @Astra7525
      @Astra7525 Před měsícem +10

      @@amysteriousstranger1221
      a) He's likely a sociopath, so he feels no remorse or shame
      b) He's got no other skills that support his current lifestyle
      c) It would be on CZcams to deny him monetization for this stolen content, but they don't care about this problem.

    • @amysteriousstranger1221
      @amysteriousstranger1221 Před měsícem +3

      @@Astra7525 fair point

    • @artCharles
      @artCharles Před 29 dny +25

      It's not actually a new channel, it's just his old channel with a new name. You can see on the dates of the videos.

  • @cottoncandythetrashpanda
    @cottoncandythetrashpanda Před 12 dny +71

    Coming back to this video because I found an iiluminaughtii plush at Goodwill the other day. Not even a nice goodwill, one of the outlet goodwills where they just toss everything into big troughs you have to dig through and charge by the pound. Likely in part thanks to this video, I was able to take it home for like 15 cents and it's now just kinda sitting in my room earning me odd looks when my friends come over. So. Uh. Thanks?

  • @kafnfriends
    @kafnfriends Před 4 měsíci +2449

    this is a small thing but James calling the show “Arthur” instead of “Merlin” more than once is even more evidence that he’s never seen it bc absolutely no one who has seen the show would think of Arthur as the main character. wild behavior all around from that man

    • @fishtank39
      @fishtank39 Před 4 měsíci +240

      That was especially egregious. Like, I have never seen a single episode of Merlin, but I was on Tumblr in the 2010s, so I'm vaguely familiar with its broad strokes. I can't imagine anyone who did any kind of looking into the show to make that kind of mistake

    • @undeadMonk
      @undeadMonk Před 4 měsíci +232

      Imagine you were watching that livestream at the time as a fan and thinking he was talking about Arthur, the children's cartoon

    • @sapphicwriter
      @sapphicwriter Před 4 měsíci +51

      @@fishtank39 right lol never watched the show either but grew up on tumblr seeing fangirls of it and even I know how ridiculous it is to have called it Arthur

    • @harmonysummers
      @harmonysummers Před 4 měsíci +81

      Also, calling it “Arthur” could make people confuse it for the kids PBS show, lol.

    • @LadyAstarionAncunin
      @LadyAstarionAncunin Před 4 měsíci +5

      That jumped out to me too.

  • @sadicalradness6927
    @sadicalradness6927 Před 4 měsíci +2460

    The fact that everything he is saying is stolen makes James' dramatic delivery so fucking infuriating

    • @gamma626
      @gamma626 Před 4 měsíci +293

      Honestly his delivery is what makes it more apparent it IS stolen. It's the kind of delivery you get from someone who is reading something out loud for the first time, without ever having seen the words... yet he claimed to be the one writing said words! No one would read their own work in such a stilted and emotionless manner when they claim to have such passion for the subjects they're discussing.

    • @NeonNecropolis92
      @NeonNecropolis92 Před 4 měsíci +136

      ​@gamma626 also you can tell it's written for an article and not to be read aloud. It doesn't flow right.
      I always found his videos clunky in a way I couldn't put my finger on, but I think that's it

    • @mikhaelgribkov4117
      @mikhaelgribkov4117 Před 4 měsíci +45

      @@NeonNecropolis92 same, his videos started feeling more performative over time to me and lost interest in keeping up, this video shocked how bad behind the scenes actually are and dropped subscription.

    • @shanemiller1182
      @shanemiller1182 Před 4 měsíci +35

      I hadn’t watched the second half of the video yet when I first read your comment and almost asked “what about the Angry Video Game Nerd’s delivery is dramatic?” Haha

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA Před 4 měsíci +18

      @@gamma626 I don't mind people reading out articles loud without adding personal emotions to them. True crime and documentary videos absolutely should do that, just acknowledge you're reading existing work, it's like an audiobook that isn't overacted this way.

  • @TheSkulleh
    @TheSkulleh Před 24 dny +130

    Damn, you weren't wrong about ruining some youtubers for me. Well, one of them.
    I live under a rock when it comes to Internet Historian, I check his channel like once a year expecting two new videos to binge.
    The manic laugh at the Man In Cave bit put the fear of god in my heart.
    Worst part is, he has so many people defending him like "who cares, he made good video, doesn't matter if he lifted the whole script and tried to hide it."
    We all know full well that if he never got caught, the now probably 20m views original video would still be there, happily linking the sponsor, and not the source.
    Not only is the IH cosy feel gone, it has been replaced with an icky feel that comes from those plagiarism-apologists.

    • @BeastOfMetal1989
      @BeastOfMetal1989 Před 23 dny +44

      It gets worse: Man In Cave wasn't his first time after all. Someone found some phrasing in Cost of Concordia that looks suspiciously like a Vanity Fair article on the tragedy (specifically, on the Korean couple who narrowly survived. Turns out, the phrase "safe but shivering" only returns around 1,500 results in a Google search. Adding "Costa Concordia" to the search leaves Historian's video and the VF article.)

    • @thelonious1310
      @thelonious1310 Před 23 dny +23

      He's also a Nazi sympathizer who dog whistles to his Neo-Nazi audience just like Stonetoss AKA Hans Kristian Graebener from Spring, TX

    • @strgunlinr2464
      @strgunlinr2464 Před 21 dnem

      ​@@thelonious1310 what, when?

    • @Hifuutorian
      @Hifuutorian Před 8 dny +8

      @@strgunlinr2464 Always. Hbomberguy mentioned it a little bit with his deleted stuff and the general nature of his fanbase. He was extremely 4chan/adjacent to start with and has tried to cover it up now that he's more mainstream but the fanbase still knows.

  • @amyroderson9413
    @amyroderson9413 Před 29 dny +97

    seeing Newt Wallen pop up made me shit my pants. My dad is good friends with the guy and always vaguely talked about a company fucking him over. I talked to him a couple times as a teen and he always gave me weird vibes. 0/10 would not recommend.

  • @Fruckert
    @Fruckert Před 4 měsíci +7228

    Little "five hours later" update:
    James nuked his discord and Twitter, and then posted on Patreon that he was under attack again for "Something we already cleared up". A good chunk of his patrons were not pleased.

    • @kohalurker
      @kohalurker Před 4 měsíci +987

      delicious

    • @Hawkatana
      @Hawkatana Před 4 měsíci +1350

      Glad to see his former fans aren't putting up with his bullshit anymore.

    • @Yamartim
      @Yamartim Před 4 měsíci +989

      Let's gooo another career successfully ruined by our guy of the hbombs

    • @TuesdaysArt
      @TuesdaysArt Před 4 měsíci +631

      He seems to have lost ~6K subscribers so far, if Social Blade is reliable

    • @carpevinum8645
      @carpevinum8645 Před 4 měsíci +637

      That post has now been deleted and a new one is up saying he is sorry and taking a moment before responding.

  • @nobleherring3059
    @nobleherring3059 Před 4 měsíci +12557

    Remember, kids: Never trust a marketing guy.

    • @miserirken
      @miserirken Před 4 měsíci +657

      Or a landlord.

    • @negativearms
      @negativearms Před 4 měsíci +67

      Is there even proof of james somerton being gay?

    • @owo26666
      @owo26666 Před 4 měsíci +765

      @@negativearms do people need to prove their sexuality?? (a lot of ppl are replying to me saying op was joking and if they were itd be really damn funny but theres a lot of ppl replying to me including op that seem to genuinely think somerton was faking being gay which even if he were how exactly would you prove that?? I SWEAR I GET JOKES SOMETIMES)

    • @wimbusbert1249
      @wimbusbert1249 Před 4 měsíci +298

      I work in marketing and I certainly don't trust myself.

    • @user-cc2it7ix5q
      @user-cc2it7ix5q Před 4 měsíci +54

      @owo26666 if they do lie about everything else, yes. (and if they are marketing guys, of course)

  • @PermeableDisdain11
    @PermeableDisdain11 Před 14 dny +56

    This was an amazing video. Thanks for this.
    I just want you to be aware: The way I came across it was that my University course material at Curtin University directly links your video in its course on academic and professional writing. That's pretty cool and I hope you feel validation for all the work you put in.

  • @orangeaurora
    @orangeaurora Před 22 dny +63

    illuminaughti using a piracy site as a cited source would be based if she didnt double-steal the documentary by also plagiarizing it

    • @kawaiimunism
      @kawaiimunism Před 19 dny +9

      Yeah, everyone's dunking on her for that bit, but I honesty think it kinda rules, even if it was just another case of her being lazy. Information wants to be free

    • @heather2503
      @heather2503 Před 7 dny +1

      Even if it is based it's not proper citation

  • @lazarpeuraca9618
    @lazarpeuraca9618 Před 3 měsíci +3070

    this video was amazing for my mental health, because no matter how shitty i'm feeling and how strong the imposter syndrome is, i can at least look into the mirror and say with 110% confidence that i'm not james somerton

    • @lisahiselius6539
      @lisahiselius6539 Před 2 měsíci +41

      Ah me too!! I'm glad I'm not the only one hahaha!

    • @readwrecks
      @readwrecks Před 2 měsíci +37

      That’s a really great insight! I usually rewatch the Spider-Verse movies to help with my imposter syndrome, but they haven’t been that much help lately.

    • @tigerwoods373
      @tigerwoods373 Před 2 měsíci

      I have a feeling being gay is his whole identity and has nothing interesting about him.

    • @coleflames
      @coleflames Před 2 měsíci +22

      You sure? Check again.

    • @golemgolden4670
      @golemgolden4670 Před 2 měsíci +24

      And you have a disco elysium profile picture so you are already a gigachad, love

  • @crispin-freeman
    @crispin-freeman Před 2 měsíci +2348

    I want someone to lock Tommy Tallarico and James Somerton in a room together and just observe what they talk about. You know, for science.

    • @CirianAlani
      @CirianAlani Před 2 měsíci +339

      I'm sure their mothers would be very proud.

    • @ChiliDUDE27
      @ChiliDUDE27 Před 2 měsíci +137

      I imagine it would be kinda like putting a live microphone directly in front of the speaker it's connected to and cranking the volume, then leaving it to feed back for a long time. It would be ear grating and horrible, but maybe in an interesting way if you can stand to listen.

    • @mothslug4387
      @mothslug4387 Před 2 měsíci +68

      divide by zero error

    • @jajajasputin8927
      @jajajasputin8927 Před 2 měsíci +37

      Dude, be careful. That's how you start the Sinister Six!

    • @ijustlikebees
      @ijustlikebees Před 2 měsíci +61

      They kiss😳

  • @possum0451
    @possum0451 Před 28 dny +81

    My favorite part is the little section about other content ”creators” leeching off others drama, not because of the actual section but rather what happened after this video was published.
    As with any drama, people made videos about the aftermath of this one, and of course they summarize it; HOWEVER. They leave out the part about the leeching. I can’t help but wonder why.

    • @TheRoboKitty
      @TheRoboKitty Před 27 dny

      Honestly the leeching section was pretty brief anyway, and not relevant to the news updates about James and Blair. You don't need an ulterior motive to cut that point out

    • @LayerInfinity
      @LayerInfinity Před 23 dny +14

      There is a cynical irony to watching a 4 hour video calling out plagiarism and then finding that mills and drama channels had already subsequently cashed in on the video's sensitive message with nothing original to add literal hours after it was released

    • @yeeyeeyeeye
      @yeeyeeyeeye Před 19 dny +7

      I know at least one of them, despite being shown in the background for about 2 seconds, complained loudly about being lumped in with them despite leeching off of other people's drama and literally doing exactly what all the other the content drama mills do.

    • @kostajovanovic3711
      @kostajovanovic3711 Před 15 dny +1

      ​@@yeeyeeyeeyeand then getting on plagiarism drama on their own

  • @samanthaw.6929
    @samanthaw.6929 Před 28 dny +67

    I accidentally clicked on a James Somerton video earlier, he's rebranded as James of Telos, It was an honest accident/mistake but I still feel so freaking dirty

    • @RozWBrazel
      @RozWBrazel Před 27 dny +8

      Normally, I’d admire the tenacity.
      _Normally._

  • @chirioneVT
    @chirioneVT Před 2 měsíci +1768

    James took the "If you copy from one book, that’s plagiarism; if you copy from many books, that’s research" quote literally.

    • @timothymclean
      @timothymclean Před měsícem +100

      Maybe business school should teach people about metaphors.

    • @eliasmg9144
      @eliasmg9144 Před měsícem +53

      ​@@timothymcleanand academic research

    • @Kaipyro67ALT
      @Kaipyro67ALT Před měsícem

      @@timothymclean Business school just teaches you to fuck people over and get yours, unfortunately.

    • @uselessindividual
      @uselessindividual Před měsícem +16

      There is a CZcams video on “the books you’ll never be able to read”.
      Old books of the past, were often hodgepodge amalgamations of other works. That being said, however, there are clear reasons and examples of actual references.
      Knowledge can enable knowledge, or it can lead to further ignorance. Idk the whole thing is a farce. The whole James thing just upsets me.

    • @calebkelly8221
      @calebkelly8221 Před měsícem +2

      But not even that, though!

  • @suchacaz
    @suchacaz Před 4 měsíci +2904

    “James never did any work”
    Let’s be fair here, he did put the stolen work into a program and hit “export”. As Tommy Tallarico taught us, that’s a huge part of the creative process!

    • @thesleepydot
      @thesleepydot Před 4 měsíci +56

      💀😭

    • @joannasthings
      @joannasthings Před 4 měsíci +173

      his mother ought to be very proud

    • @FIXTREME
      @FIXTREME Před 4 měsíci +6

      Many more have done far less...

    • @DoubLL
      @DoubLL Před 4 měsíci +44

      (also that's the one part that we know for sure Joey did)

    • @IamAlmostRealWitch
      @IamAlmostRealWitch Před 26 dny

      I mean, I really don't want to defend Tommy Tallarico, but at least he actually owned oof sound. He also owned Guinness records. (although he fabricated titles for all awards) James never REALLY owned anything in videos that made him famous. It was all stolen.

  • @Dradeeus
    @Dradeeus Před 21 dnem +74

    It is pretty funny that Internet Historian's little cartoon guy is just reading from a book.

    • @larissabrglum3856
      @larissabrglum3856 Před 20 dny +11

      Blair also frequently used an avatar still where she was reading from a book. Hmm

    • @cly_
      @cly_ Před 18 dny

      Makes me think there was originally a plan to make an adaptation, crediting the article. The "campfire storytime" vibe would fit with that. Maybe mentalfloss just said "no" but by then they were on crunch time so they just uploaded it as-is

    • @henrynelson9301
      @henrynelson9301 Před 17 dny +18

      @@cly_IH’s videos take months to make. It wouldn’t really make much sense to only ask permission late in production. I think it’s more likely that he didn’t care about that at all, especially considering the part where he pretends he’s reading seperate things.

    • @cly_
      @cly_ Před 17 dny

      ​@@henrynelson9301 Is that overall or just the scriptwriting process?

    • @gem9535
      @gem9535 Před 16 dny +1

      @@cly_ Being on a crunchtime isn't a good excuse to steal.

  • @josephnewberry9290
    @josephnewberry9290 Před 22 dny +45

    I fell asleep listening to this during the Monster Madness section and woke up to wonder when James "AVGN" Rolfe started stealing from so many LGBTQ sources.

  • @robindaybird
    @robindaybird Před 4 měsíci +15112

    Honestly Illuminaughti picking a fight with an *a lawyer in good standing* seems like a real act of hubris.

    • @3takoyakis
      @3takoyakis Před 4 měsíci +313

      I was honestly got one of her popped up and it was about 'traditional builder exposed' and 'cutedodo' exposed. She looks real. Then she reappears again with drama on her video then gone to obscurity
      At least now I know why

    • @aegisScale
      @aegisScale Před 4 měsíci +1032

      I'm not sure what she expected, because taking a reputable lawyer to court (even if it's the court of public opinion) sounds like a great way to embarass yourself in the most expensive way possible.

    • @StoutShako
      @StoutShako Před 4 měsíci +52

      The Mea Culpa is real

    • @brendaleelydon
      @brendaleelydon Před 4 měsíci +791

      A copyright lawyer at that! Like, how stupid do you have to be??

    • @dodixaverius9176
      @dodixaverius9176 Před 4 měsíci +345

      @@brendaleelydon very. not to mention the effect in question was not that. and the editor only want to use the effect he asked (not the highlight or paper thing) for his own personal video.
      And lets pretend that he wanted to blatantly copy video effect. Was accusing his boss for plagiarizing on public forum the best way to do it? Doubly stupid when that person is a lawyer and triply stupid when you realize said lawyer specialize with copyright law.

  • @ashtalier2875
    @ashtalier2875 Před 4 měsíci +2400

    It really bothers me that Somerton implies Stevenson and Sugar had it easier when producing hits like Steven Universe and She-Ra, particularly SU, given that it's pretty well documented that Sugar and crew had to fight tooth and nail to actually get their representation in explicitly whilst being actively censored, expressing that Cartoon Network was "[holding them] to the standards of extremely bigoted countries". Edits were made to the show to change the gender of a female coded character (Ruby) to male so it wouldn't be gay in certain broadcasts.
    These aren't people who were just allowed to do what they want with their representation; Sugar has gone on record saying they were willing to lose the show for good if it meant they could broadcast a lesbian wedding, and would walk away themselves if they couldn't. They risked it all because they believed in what they were showing. SU is far from flawless, but it made such massive leaps for representation in children's media. Downplaying that as something they just were uniquely granted by the powers that be because lesbians is utterly ridiculous.

    • @loserlesbianmori
      @loserlesbianmori Před 4 měsíci +351

      I have my criticisms of SU, but I will always be grateful for Rebecca fighting so hard for a lesbian wedding. Same with TLOK and the hand holding scene with Korra and Asami.

    • @ernie39
      @ernie39 Před 4 měsíci +5

      exactly!

    • @bluester7177
      @bluester7177 Před 4 měsíci +160

      Yeah, dude was just playing oppression Olympics, it's hard to be part of the LGBTQIA + community, also, if he is going to play, trans people are always going to win, sadly.

    • @rinnachi
      @rinnachi Před 4 měsíci +90

      somerton doesn’t understand this because he’s never believed in anything enough to fight for its realization.

    • @joshuafreeman3609
      @joshuafreeman3609 Před 4 měsíci +151

      And SU got its remaining episodes cut short because the crew stuck to their guns on the wedding, which is a big reason the shows ending had such rushed pacing. Insane to act like CN was just bending over to give them whatever they wanted.

  • @maxpetra9176
    @maxpetra9176 Před 2 dny +25

    Opening a nearly 4 hour essay with a quote that includes the sentence "Tell us the story, briefly." is definitely one of the narrative choices of all time.

  • @hollywitham5388
    @hollywitham5388 Před měsícem +90

    james somerton sure seems to dislike women for how often he steals off of them

  • @ianfreud
    @ianfreud Před 3 měsíci +1152

    I like that "Telos" is an anagram of "Stole."

    • @kuhpunkt
      @kuhpunkt Před 3 měsíci +29

      It's also solet backwards!

    • @marychouvarda6875
      @marychouvarda6875 Před 3 měsíci +3

      Oh my god,I never noticed it😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮.😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮

    • @ArjunTheRageGuy
      @ArjunTheRageGuy Před 3 měsíci +12

      I bet he knew it already when he decided on making a company with that name

    • @main4325
      @main4325 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Ah, I hadn't clocked it!

    • @sweetlittlenothing7696
      @sweetlittlenothing7696 Před 3 měsíci +29

      AND it means "end" in Greek xD

  • @slightlyjim5590
    @slightlyjim5590 Před 2 měsíci +2787

    I know no one will likely read this and its the most benign criticism of James. But a film grad having such poor lighting in his videos is maddening.

    • @kostajovanovic3711
      @kostajovanovic3711 Před 2 měsíci +32

      ​@@capnmnemooh, a new development

    • @freakfoxvevo7915
      @freakfoxvevo7915 Před 2 měsíci +89

      ​@@capnmnemoWith photoshopped images of his videos to make them look better might I add

    • @Berlinbower
      @Berlinbower Před 2 měsíci

      Idk shit about filmmaking and the lighting is still pissing me off lmao

    • @kilroy00011
      @kilroy00011 Před 2 měsíci +52

      I have been thinking this since the video came out in December. It's either Argento or sterile dystopia, with no in-between.

    • @zubetp
      @zubetp Před měsícem +151

      oh, i read the _crap_ out of this.
      i think he doesn't understand what makes certain types of lighting work. it's like that ebert quote about the guy who overused the dutch angle, "he's learned from better films that sometimes directors tilt their cameras, but he has not learned why."

  • @davidbodor1762
    @davidbodor1762 Před 12 dny +30

    This revelation honestly made his video on the Owl House make so much more sense, because it's nonsense, he clearly never watched the show and had no idea wtf it's about.

  • @soursugar4867
    @soursugar4867 Před 15 dny +48

    I need it to be said that being on the Cinemassacre section of the video and seeing all of the comments directed at “James” in the comments section was very, very scary until I realized they meant James Somerton

    • @Champiness
      @Champiness Před 2 dny +1

      Now you’ve got me imagining an AVGN-lexicon version of James Somerton’s rants about being used as an accessory by straight women

  • @ackee39
    @ackee39 Před 2 měsíci +2228

    what makes illuminaughtiis case funnier is that she has been well known to diss any creator who quotes from wikipedia and even criticized other people for not doing as much research as her, even though all she was doing was just copying wikipedia anyways… jesus christ

    • @freakfoxvevo7915
      @freakfoxvevo7915 Před 2 měsíci +118

      "Rules for thee and not for me" as they say

    • @larissabrglum3856
      @larissabrglum3856 Před 2 měsíci +137

      Projection seems to be quite common among people who have a habit of knowingly doing shitty things

    • @culwin
      @culwin Před 2 měsíci +37

      @@larissabrglum3856 Because they think everyone else is like them

    • @FukaiKokoro
      @FukaiKokoro Před 2 měsíci +26

      Often people are the most critical of others what they think of themselves. Projecting.

    • @Saiyusa
      @Saiyusa Před 2 měsíci +19

      Blair being so cutthroat about Cruel World Happy Mind's bashful approach addressing potential plagiarism brought to her by a viewer was clearly not an authentic response but making an example of her because she knew she would not be the last.

  • @notsibb
    @notsibb Před 4 měsíci +48975

    Thank you, Tommy Tallarico, for creating this 4-hour long video about plagiarism.

    • @davidmcgirr
      @davidmcgirr Před 4 měsíci +6684

      I'm sure his mother is very proud.

    • @artistdudebro
      @artistdudebro Před 4 měsíci +2552

      Clearly hbomberguy stole this whole thing from Tommy 😤 he needs someone to tell him that plagiarism is not cool

    • @KonradKotar
      @KonradKotar Před 4 měsíci +2012

      He owns the world record for the most watched CZcams video, his mother is very proud.

    • @degenReflow
      @degenReflow Před 4 měsíci +507

      @@davidmcgirruntil he walks around the water fountain in his Egypt room.

    • @David_636
      @David_636 Před 4 měsíci +327

      I was literally relistening to the tommy tallarico video by chance just before i got the notification for this

  • @minidusa
    @minidusa Před měsícem +83

    I think learning about Brian Deer and his style of reporting has had a seriously positive impact on H.Bomberguy’s research. I honestly think he’s learned a lot from him. He goes so much more in depth in his videos then he needs to, clearly following in Brian deers footsteps of digging until he reveals the truth. He keeps going and I think that H.Bomberguy is now kind of the investigative reporter of CZcams. It’s really inspiring. I bought Mr. Deers book recently and its incredible. I highly recommend it.

    • @Ringothetankengine-qy1vl
      @Ringothetankengine-qy1vl Před 27 dny +8

      I also think it's cool that Hbomb pretty much did to Somerton, what Deer did to Wakefield.

  • @Chihirolee3
    @Chihirolee3 Před 3 dny +18

    I love how, 4 months after the fact, when I'm using CZcams autoplay to lull me to sleep, this video ALWAYS comes up.

  • @talonthehand
    @talonthehand Před 4 měsíci +2238

    The "I'm not an academic, I don't know the proper way of citing a reference" when you have a college degree is bewildering to me. The first time I went to college it was drilled into me over and over again the importance of citations, and how to do them. And I was a computer science major, not, like, english or history.

    • @MackerelSkyLtd
      @MackerelSkyLtd Před 4 měsíci +76

      Exactly. Even if you (JS) don’t have whatever writing handbook you had to buy for school still in a box somewhere, you know it exists. Heck, you know citations are a thing because they are the things you would have to delete when copying Wikipedia articles into your script.

    • @PhotonBeast
      @PhotonBeast Před 4 měsíci +103

      Heck, it isn't uncommon for it to be a thing in high school either. And the very fact that one knows the phrase 'citing a reference' means knowing in broad strokes about the concept and thus what to google, if nothing else.

    • @brodyfrable4250
      @brodyfrable4250 Před 4 měsíci +31

      ​​​@@PhotonBeastI learned about and was told that bad stuff would happen if you plagiarized in middle school, hell in the 6th goddamn grade. Granted, it was a very light sort of "If you plagiarize you can get in legal trouble and lose money" in a very simplified way for 12 year olds, but *still*, c'mon man it aint hard to understand

    • @tamar7065
      @tamar7065 Před 4 měsíci +5

      Yup. This was all in my very first required class.

    • @ladywaffle2210
      @ladywaffle2210 Před 4 měsíci +10

      It was drilled into me in high school English. Granted, I took AP English, but still...

  • @slashcammas
    @slashcammas Před 4 měsíci +2024

    I plagiarized like this once. The difference is I was in 4th grade and it was for a report on sharks. I failed that assignment. Learned my lesson real quick.

    • @juliamavroidi8601
      @juliamavroidi8601 Před 4 měsíci +97

      I plagiarized a poem about fish in elementary school and got an A. Still learned not to do it by middle school

    • @hedgehog3180
      @hedgehog3180 Před 4 měsíci +90

      In Denmark before submitting any high school exam you literally have to sign a legal document stating that this is all your original work and that you agree to be expelled if it isn't.

    • @inkuii
      @inkuii Před 4 měsíci +12

      For me it was in 2nd grade on a report about some kind of flower. Now I am ass about my citations

    • @PsychoPyro813
      @PsychoPyro813 Před 4 měsíci +30

      I met people who were upperclassmen in college who didn't understand that if they did not include in-text citations (which are VERY EASY TO INCLUDE, *especially* in APA style), they were effectively plagiarizing. The amount of peer-reviewing I did where that was an issue was astounding.

    • @Degnique
      @Degnique Před 4 měsíci +4

      Same here. I was in 2nd grade and for my essay I just copied a portion of a Crash Bandicoot 1 walkthrough. lmao

  • @yeethittter1285
    @yeethittter1285 Před měsícem +76

    Rewatching this I still love Hbomb needing to reach his quota of gay jokes so that it's too obvious that he's bi for Somerton to pull the homophobia card in response

  • @andiaradan
    @andiaradan Před měsícem +38

    No lie I love that when he found out they'd been plagiarized, Harlan Ellison's immediate response was to go completely feral.

  • @myaisntfondofyou99
    @myaisntfondofyou99 Před 4 měsíci +2628

    James’s only original work being ranting about women is so funny to me 😭🙏

    • @Nolant.
      @Nolant. Před 4 měsíci +140

      Gamer

    • @echotango4591
      @echotango4591 Před 4 měsíci

      Honestly the most toxic backstabbing snakes I saw in school were the gay best friends of the popular straight girls….

    • @Yajoy-kh3kc
      @Yajoy-kh3kc Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@just_a_turtle_chadedgy loser

    • @bonbonbam6188
      @bonbonbam6188 Před 4 měsíci +267

      @just_a_turtle_chad What's the matter, are your parents not monitoring your screen time enough?

    • @butterbene
      @butterbene Před 4 měsíci +147

      ​@@just_a_turtle_chadtypical Vaushite response (I see you under every vaush video lol)

  • @alexj01
    @alexj01 Před 4 měsíci +2959

    it hurts my soul that calling Merlin "the Arthur show" is the funniest joke James has ever made and he will never realize it

    • @animeotaku307
      @animeotaku307 Před 4 měsíci +122

      HBomb showed a lot of restraint by not playing a bit of Arthur’s intro after that blunder. TBF, though, that was a gaffe on James’ part. I can forgive that while watching him get torn down for actual shit he’s done.

    • @xXluluchanelXx
      @xXluluchanelXx Před 4 měsíci +270

      @@animeotaku307 I hope you understand that the point of it being put into the video was not to shame James for a brain flub, but to illustrate just how little attachment he actually had to a subject he supposedly was into enough to make a video about.

    • @GIR177
      @GIR177 Před 4 měsíci +102

      ​@@animeotaku307That's not a gaffe, he forgot the name because he didn't watch the freaking show lol

    • @justacouplapaninis4986
      @justacouplapaninis4986 Před 4 měsíci +45

      And I say HEY!

    • @robots2124
      @robots2124 Před 4 měsíci

      ​​@@justacouplapaninis4986What a wonderful kind of day...

  • @nursemelissajane
    @nursemelissajane Před měsícem +52

    "The phrase 'by James Somerton' is doing SO MUCH heavy lifting..." Understatement of the century, my guy!