Kimber’s New Alloy Frame K6xs
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- čas přidán 23. 07. 2024
- Luke C. (@ballisticaviation) is on the scene at NRA 2023 to check out Kimber’s new ultra-light, ultra-slim, double action single action revolver, the K6xs. The K6xs not only improves the carry weight and profile of the revolver, it adds back useful features like an improved set of sights over other short barreled revolvers.
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Luke and Hop getting it done in Indy. Well done, youngsters. Old man Reeves must be proud.
Man, I'd love this in 327 magnum, but 38 is fine, given it holds 6 shots. I would also love to see a DASA model.
i wish 327 magnum had taken off, LuckyGunners video on the 32 family is really cool
Super vel 90gr +p from this is about 1300fps and about 350lbs
I wouldn't stand in front of it tbh 😅
There is no purpose for an exposed hammer on a 2” defensive weapon. It’s only use is to snag during a draw.
@@banditone00 shrouded hammer, bruh
@@prfwrx2497 it’s already an internal hammer. I get hammer shrouds (I carry a detective special in a simply rugged pocket holster). If it comes to complete internal hammer vs a shrouded hammer I’ll take sealed up system any day. I am with you 1000% on the 327, though!
Kimber got this one right by going 38 Special +P and not 357 Magnum for this very lightweight aluminum-framed revolver. I agree with that 100%. Recoil would be just too much for this light of a gun for the vast majority of people. Another thing they got right was these Hogue grips. I love those! And the weight of 16 ounces is about the same as my Smith 642. Looks like Kimber made a good decision here with this one.
Kimber coming with the pressure this year.... I love it
This is gonna be great. The K6s is one of the best carry revolvers out there, and an alloy model was the logical next step.
Lol no
I didn't know kimbers work. Huh
I tried to like mine but it shot 3 inches high. Tried different weights and velocities with no luck. Incredible trigger and beautiful gun though
@@Terron35 That's the one misstep that Kimber made with them IMO. I believe they're all regulated for 158 grain 357 at 15 yards.
@@FCV0511 that sounds about right and I had bought a 3" model for my wife with the intention of using light 38spl. The trigger was phenomenal though
The booth guy says “with .357 the gun wouldn’t last as long”; well I used to shoot the S&W J-frame .357 PD and the shooter doesn’t last long. So his assessment is prob correct.
Some guy came to our range with a Smith and actually fired 10 rounds, 340 PD, not sure but he looked rather pained...
Smart going 38 for the lightweight. People who want a 357 air-weight clearly have not shot from one. They definitely don’t train with it. 38 +p is more than enough for the role a snubbie would fill.
I gues only 1% of people who bought a scandium 357 snubby realy shoot 357 out of it.
They were working on this when I worked for them. Glad it finally came out. Took a few years lol
Worst pistol buying decision I made was buying a S&W 360PD in 357 mag, it’s brutal
Even 38spc+p is brutal in the airlite frames.
awesome internal hammer !!! best feature
@@cheeng1 For sure. My S&W M642 is great for what it is, but it is a challenge.
That’s what hot .38s are for dummy
I totally agree. And I also think Kimber got this one right by going 38 special in this lightweight frame. 357 is great in heavy steel framed guns but NOT in lightweight alloy revolvers. If I owned a 360 PD like you I would just load 38 Special +P and call it a day. At least then you could get some use out of it.
New interviewer? He should study Hop's interviews for the optimal speak-then-listen procedure. Kimber should take some sales away from S&W with these attractive, lightweight revolvers (with a more-useful rear sight).
He really did speak too much and interrupt
Nice, might actually look into one of these sometime whenever they're out.
I almost sprayed coffee out of my nose when he asked why not .357 magnum. Go shoot a whole box .357 through an aluminum snubby, you will know why.
This is the first Kimber I've been excited for in over a decade.
I feel it'd actually make sense for this to be a .22lr to compete with the LCR and S&W ones now that 22lr 8 rd carry revolvers are making a sort of comeback.
Couldn't agree more
Got a LCR that my wife and I use as a barn gun.. perfect for dispatching critters in the live trap we set by the attached hen house...
If that trigger is as good as the full SS version that will be a game changer w/ six rounds on board (Listen up Ruger)... Fairly priced it seems. I do wish it had a high visibility front sight w/ tritium insert. That would be worth the upcharge for me.
Ruger pioneered the 327 Federal with 6 Rounds in a smaller cylinder
More reasonably priced than the original version. Which is definitely a good thing.
So close, yet so far. For MY needs, this MUST HAVE a dovetailed replaceable front sight. Period. That one addition, would make this a perfect carry revolver.
Very very few revolvers come standard with what you’re requesting. If anything, that would be on you to have it installed.
@@MajimaGoro8 I said for MY needs a replaceable front sight would be beneficial (should have said just "replaceable"). Kimber is doing a great job by implementing REAL innovation in the revolver space. This one additional thing would make the revolver perfect FOR ME. There are many revolvers that offer pinned, replaceable front sights (Ruger, S&W, Taurus, etc.). I can hope, can't I?
I was gonna complain about them ditching the three dot sight picture but the wide front and deep groove looks really good. I recently put some taller, wider sights on my Python and it's night and day, much closer to automatic pistol sights. Odd how it costs so much less than the K6S
There are many of us who prefer nearly ANYTHING over a 3-dot sight.
The Python costs less than a Kimber revolver? On which plane of existence are you currently wandering?
3 dot sights are mediocre as hell
Definitely getting this since IL is on bullshit with mag ban
I'm looking forward to purchasing one of these as soon as it is available. A six shot .38 at less than one pound sounds great!
WARNING! Many years ago, I purchased a Kimber K6s and it was one of those that ended up with a broken firing-pin. I returned it to Kimber and they replaced the pin. Recently I bought a Kimber K6xs and loved it until after 120 rounds of +p (and only dry-firing it using snap-caps) you guessed it, the firing-pin broke.
Now, I was worried about using my original K6s with that pin Kimber replaced. I found a website that makes upgraded replacement firing-pins for the Kimber K6s and purchased a replacement pin and had it installed by a gunsmith. I now have that gun working fine and stopped worrying on the reliability factor.
Because of the broken pin in the K6xs, I will be purchasing another pin (I will not be returning the gun to Kimber) for the K6xs. I am not the only person with a broken firing-pin on my new K6xs, there is another firing-pin break with a K6xs talked about at Buds Guns in the “community” section. I feel safer buying a new well-made pin and paying a gunsmith to install it.
At least they addressed the price point. So it's a S&W Model 642 with one more round capacity and a price about $150 more. That difference is easy enough to accept if it is the gun you want. That's an improvement anyway.
Unless they changed something in the trigger, the Kimber trigger should be much nicer too.
@Jack Johnson the performance center 637 and 642 have really great triggers.
Maybe colt will actually make a Cobra in an alloy frame now, nobody else is selling only steel pocket guns at this point
@@claytondennis8034 I added Hogue grips and a Wilson springs kit to my 642. Both mods only cost $25 each and made the gun 100% better.
357 would be overkill. 38 is perfectly fine and I want one of these!
I love my K6s 2” but I’d personally prefer to have a dasa model in this as I like having the 357 option in my K6s as well as the single action option but it’s so much easier to handle with 38+P. This new one will do well being so light.
Now make it in .22 to go with my K6s. Or 9MM.
yeah, 9 rounds plzzzz
My K6S is almost perfect. The only downside is the weight. This will make it perfect!
I’ve been looking forward to this thing for years, probably gonna sell my K6 DCR and get this and a 3 inch K6.
@@Travis_Trauma I’ll take your DCR lol
Need..... And i will have as soon as I see one local. Love my 3 and 2 inch K6S DAO models.
But when are they asking it an 8 shot 22lr target gun?
8? Make it 10.
They finally did it! Pocket carry 6 round...hell yes. Give us the Two-Tone finish on this! Then my life is complete.
The Colt Night Cobra is a great 6 shot pocket carry revolver.
_”T6 Aluminum”_
That doesn’t really mean anything.
_What_ T6? 6061 T6? 7075 T6?
I like the chamfered on the muzzle and frame. Should make reholstering easier and reduce snagging all around.
Damn Luke, it would be great if you let the guy get a word in.
Edit: no hate, all love
I'd like to see a video comparing this with the Taurus 856CHUL. The weight is the same as well as capacity. The Kimber is a big larger.
Thats pretty sweet. Kimber*6 X-Small. Brilliant.
When I see Luke C, I smash that Like button!
I’m sold. Please take my money.
Looks good.
I've owned the 3 inch DASA and loved it but it wasnt a practical gun for me so i ended up selling it later on. This gun however hits the mark. A price point i can justify and it can replace my 642 which i carry regularly.
a lighter weight K6S for 38 special EDCing is exactly the right move
but I'm still cutting off that pinky extension because it causes too much printing for me
K6 and k6xs fit same holster?
Nice!
Wonderful
Ruger take note. Six shot lightweight frame.
Is the trigger as good as the K6s?
Looks like it'll fit moon clips??
I have several upper end edc options, i inherited my mothers j frame airweight and find myself carrying it the most, i like the idea of a 6 shot, i have the k6s and love it, however the weight for pocket carry is to much, this may be my next one.
Looks like a nice gun. Give us revolver options in 9mm.
So is this thing actually dimensionally smaller than the regular K6s? Luke said it was "a lot smaller", but the rep said it fits the same holsters, and visually it doesn't look any smaller. Which is it?
It's lighter. Not smaller in size.
Good,job
WOW.... I love this gun....❤... Titanium 357... shrouded hammer next please.
I'm confused. Which dimension is smaller than the K6S? According to Kimbers website, the K6XS is taller and longer (I think both are because of the Hogue grips) than the stainless gun, and the cylinder can't be appreciably smaller to still hold 6 rounds and fit the same holsters. Despite that, this video and the Kimber website both indicate that this is a smaller gun.
my only guess is that by "K6S" they mean the full K6S line like the target and match.
Although their website says "larger FRAMED sibling" which says to me a frame size like the SP101 vs GP100.
Since they fit the same holsters, best I can tell these are literally the same dimensions with some extra machining and materials in the XS to reduce weight.
Beautiful Revolver Pleasure make a DASA Version
I’m just waiting for you guys to get to the Henry booth
This is so sick,
Nice upgrades compared to the S&W 642 but the grip looks awkwardly large for pocket carry.
Colt Cobra better watch out 😯
The Colt Cobra is a classic six-shot .38 Special introduced in 1950 and weighs an ounce less than the Kimber K6xs. The Colt Agent variant is even lighter. These guns were highly successful and produced for decades. Versions of the Cobra remain in production. Is the Kimber K6xs a better gun?
Would have loved this in 9mm with moon clips
I'd rather see a K6(X)S in 9mm than 38 special
Will probably eventually get this anyway tho
Wood grips?
A great video and revolver. What might be better this Kimber's snubbie or the Ruger all steel SP101?
Well the ruger is a heavier 5 shot all steel .357 magnum. Whole different animal. Their claim to fame is 6 rounds. In their .357 steel versions and now this in .38 special.
@@graywind4326 Thank you. I did not hear the barrel length of the Kimber.Was it 2.25inch?
@@graywind4326 just let me say the SP101 327 FedMag can hold 6 rounds.
@@sealove79able Got me there. And their revolver would hold 7 if its chambered in 327. We were comparing in similar caliber. 38/.357
@@sealove79able To start off with yes
I have a Taurus 856 ultra lite in .38 special. It weighs the same as this. I never feel underarmed and because its light, it goes everywhere with me. Ruger and Smith better pay attention to kimber.
If I were to buy this, I'd use it as a backup carry gun that I can just stuff inside my pocket.
Who asked u
@@DinoNucci who asked for your reply?
@@jaredcaldwell4270 wrong
I just bought it today 😅I’m thinking ankle holster 🎉
The Kimber doesn't seem to beat the 17 oz Ruger LCR for the price which you can also get in 327 Mag.
Sweet! Been waiting for this. What’s up with DA/SA models? That’s what I really want.
Why? The only thing exposed hammers do for a 2” defensive revolver is give you something to prevent a clean draw.
@@banditone00
Just to make you upset. You do realize it’s all about you and the way you like things, right? Everything. That’s the whole reason we all do anything. To suit your tastes and desires.
@@Peter-ff1tp I am seriously curious if there is some reason. I don’t have to be upset, because they started out making the model which makes sense to me. It was a brilliant reply, though, Pete.
@@banditone00
Just because it’s ideal purpose is close and dirty doesn’t mean you won’t ever need to take a clean 50 yard shot under stress. The firearm is perfectly capable. Are you capable with the 12 pound trigger? I don’t think I could do what that kid in the mall in Indiana did recently with a double action.
Less important, but my primary motivation, is the use of the hammer while holstering. There isn’t a single thing in the world more secure feeling than holstering a double action appendix with your thumb on the back of the hammer.
If your concern is snagging, the hammer can be bobbed down and rounded to be smooth while still allowing purchase for cocking.
It simply makes it a more versatile and useful firearm.
@@banditone00 you're completely wrong... the recent defensive ammo offerings from several manufacturers really allow even a 2" snubby to seriously stretch its ccw capabilities beyond the stereotypical 0-7 yds 'get off me gun' role it's been thought of up to recently, up to 20 yds and beyond; and this is only the beginning of this trend in ammo design/capabilities... especially if carried in a dedicated ankle/minimalistic holster instead of merely in a pocket... in many certain scenarios and distances of beyond 10 yds a s/a trigger can be indispensable and even so on a 2" snubnose thanks to the advances in ammo capabilities...i'd seriously consider the purchase of this handgun as an alternative to my smith models 360pd, 637 and the ruger lcrx but will not precisely because of lack of this s/a option whereas i might seriously do so if it's offered in a sa/da version... your opinion is dated and invalid, check out some recent videos on 38 spl ballistic ammo and distances up to 70yds tests in snubbies and open your mind to possibilities... i've already replied elsewhere in this comment section to your nearly identical comment but apparently you've removed it by the time i clicked the 'reply'...
I made the mistake or ordering one of these. I wanted a light weight snub revolver to everyday carry. I liked it's 6 shot capacity and the grip it comes with. Mine ended up being junk. The cylinder would shift/cant when the cylinder release button was pushed. The ejector rod was sloppy, the ejector rod star was loose fitting. Sometimes the trigger would bind up when being dry fired and sometimes a strange (crunchy) sound could be heard when the revolver was being dry fired. The revolver had machine/tool marks on the blast shield and the side plate was poorly fitted. The fit and finish was rough. Definitely poor quality control on Kimber's part. I had high hopes for it but ended up getting rid of it.
Waiting for the 327 federal magnum by Kimber!
It appears the barrel shroud is stainless steel. Using aluminum would have saved some weight as the expense of durability as Taurus has done with their 856 ULs.
I'd rather it be a 9mm at this barrel length, because it'll have 300ftlbs of energy, plus it'll be more controllable than 38 or 357. 38 out of this has under 200ftlbs of energy, similar to 32acp. For reference 357 will have 260ftlbs out of this barrel length.
Depends what type of 38. There are some impressive rounds out there that can easily exceed performance of 9mm.
9mm, or any auto cartridge for that matter, is not a good choice for a revolver. If you are gonna carry a revolver, use ammo designed for it. A friend of mine thought he got a good deal on a used Ruger LCR in 9mm. But the moon clips just didn't work well. The rounds would not stay in place in the cylinder and cause jams. Not all the time, but often enough for him to notice. For that problem to happen in a gun you are going to trust your life with, well, that's not acceptable. He ended up selling it.
They better do a dasa model
Get me it in 22LR and I'd be happy.
Dude. When you interview someone, LET. THEM. TALK! I mean, I get it; you know stuff and want to flex. But you're interviewing, so let THEM talk. If you Do know more about something then don't bother with the interview, just tell us. Otherwise, ask your question and then shut up. Over-talking the person is not helping anyone learn what they have to say.
Interviewer looked like he just wanted to get out of there
That's amazing, since my new KelTec P15 is only 14 ounces unloaded. One ounce less than this gun. I prefer 16 rounds to 6 for the same weight.
Till it goes out of battery because your in a struggle for a gun . Now it is a harder gun to take away ,still fires 6 shots vs your single shot out of battery gun .... No timeouts in life or death
@@edstringer1138 So…we’re just going to act like revolvers can’t be stopped from firing through manipulation as well? Cool.
I love them all, but let’s be honest while we’re being honest.
You're right that semi-autos are more efficient, although the Kel-Tec P15 has yet to establish a track record of reliability. It may take a decade of design tweaks before it reaches its full potential.
There are lighter revolvers than this Kimber, specifically the Ruger LCR and S&W AirLite, available in a variety of chamberings including .357 Magnum (although .32 is ideal in these ultralights if you ask me). Still, you could carry a Ruger LCP Max with more rounds. Or a Kel-Tec P-32 that's lighter than any revolver.
But I really like the S&W AirLites. They're all about 11-12oz. The practical advantages are few, and they're thicker than semi-autos, but at this weight they're not much worse, just different. People like that they won't go out of battery and be disabled during a contact shot, although there are certainly ways a revolver can be manipulated not to fire. In the small mousegun pistol calibers (smaller than .380), few semi-autos are reliable. Basically, you've got the Beretta tip-up barrel mini-pistols, the Kel-Tec P-32, and the Ruger LCP .22, and they're all good but not perfect. The revolvers are more reliable. In .22LR, they're especially competitive against small semi-autos, as they hold a lot of ammo in the cylinder and they will cycle a dud round due to their nature. On the other hand, rimfire revolvers have heavy triggers.
I think they're a strong selection for a backup gun or small deep concealment piece, if you don't demand the absolute smallest and lightest gun. And in small calibers, they're more competitive. Once you get to 9mm, the semi-auto is clearly more efficient and sometimes more reliable. Although there are some niche uses. I think the Chiappa Rhino in 9mm would make a good heavier home defense pistol for someone averse to recoil who wants to shoot a 9mm and doesn't mind the limited capacity. Revolvers tend to be easier to use and maintain, which is important when dealing with gun owners who are not hobbyists and just want to stick a gun in their sock drawer and forget about it for years until they need it. Revolvers are a little more intuitive.
Yes, but I'd rather have 6 rounds that I know work than 1 round that fires and then jams on you right after.
KelTec is not even in the same league as kimber. Those are like toy guns. I had two back in the day when I was broke and cheap.
My 340PD works fine for me.
As soon as he corrected you on XS you should have told him to switch to salads because he is XL! 👍
YEAH BUDDY 😅
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I've got a S&W 637PC that looks like it's going to get replaced now.
I'll take your 637 PC!
T6 Aluminum?? Would that be 7075 T6 aluminum or 6061 T6 aluminum?? That’s a difference in tensile strength of about 40%…
Interviewer needs the let the kimber rep finish his sentences lol
Can we get a smaller 5 shot in 327 Federal?
Isn't the point of 327 federal to get 6 shots out of a j frame?
@@philllax1719 Yes and no. It offers quite a bit over 38spl, even +p. That said, it can be a little snappy to some, but I don’t think it’s bad at all.
Throughout the entire interview, these two seemed to be on the verge of pissing each other off.
Don’t get me wrong I love my scandium frame Smith and Wesson 357 snub. But I paid $1100. This is a way better price point for your average Joe and it will get the job done.
hip? heel? hand?
I'm good with .38 +p, seen first hand what it'll do, I just hope they use a better finish on the alloy frame than Smith and Wesson does on their j frames, it's terribly cheap.
Hope it runs better than their 1911s🙄
Could have saved more weight by cutting it for an optic.
Handguns have optics now. Give me a spot for my optic.
So it's heavier than the Ruger LCR and S&W AirLite revolvers that have been successful on the market for many years now, in a variety of chamberings including .357 (although I prefer .32 in these ultralight guns). I'm glad to see a new competitor in the lightweight snubnose market, but does this heavier Kimber offer any superior features or advantages to the proven reliable competitiors?
One more round?
And weight difference is really so small that it really shouldn't matter
I think the difference in weight is only about an ounce. Maybe two. Not enough difference to make a difference.
@@LA_Commander well it's 15.9oz vs 14.4oz when compared with smith 642 [sans the internal lock version] so plus 1.5 oz difference although kimber costing more $... so this new kimber is slightly heavier and this might still be justified given the regular k6's rather very good reputation as expressed by many experienced owners and wheelgun users...
however, at a slightly higher cost of competition and if one's objective is a quality ULTRALIGHT snubnose. then imo it loses on all fronts to smith's models 340pd/360pd because compared to the 340pd sans internal lock model's weight, the difference is then a whopping additional 4.2oz... and only 0.1 less to the sa/da 360pd which although both 340pd/360pd] are officially chambered in .357mag, they should really be thought of as ultralight .38 spl snubbies imo... in the latter's cases the weight difference is huge favoring both smiths if carry weight is the predominant factor and the 360pd offers sa/da option which is another huge plus for the smith imo...
personally have never owned or even shot one but have heard/read good things about kimber's [much heavier] standard k6s 2" and 3" snubnoses so personally i would quite possibly consider this new k6xs as an alternative to my smith/ruger u/l snubbies but only if offered in sa/da variant...
lastly, as some others commented, an additional perk would be to see the sa/da version in also 9mm and .327mag/.32 s&w variants, especially if the 9mm could be made more versatile and easier to use than ruger's current offering which requires use of very fragile clips and has other issues according to some reviews... i've been jonesing for an uber reliable, versatile 9mm ultralight snubnose just to have that caliber option to the ubiquitous semiautos...
@@lordofthemound3890 You're right, I completely missed the obvious. The cylinder is a little wider to fit the extra round, but it's a compromise many are willing to make. Plus, it's a high-quality gun despite the fixed sights. I myself might put up with some minor downsides for an extra round, if I wanted a .38 Special.
I prefer .32 or 327 in these really lightweight guns, though, so I'd still be getting six rounds with other revolvers.
Looks like an awesome gun. I love my K6S 3” DAO, super underrated revolver.
Unfortunately Hop’s butt-buddy here is a terrible interviewer.
Bring this out in 22 mag and with a hammer and I'd get really excited. I'd heard the K6s were really nice guns but way over priced. This looks like a reasonable option. The only Kimber I ever owned was a Pro 1911 and I sold it immediately after discovering it had a plastic mainspring housing. Really Kimber.
Let the man talk...geez
Well well well, look who is in front of the camera for once.
But it is only rated as .38 caliber +P ammo, not .357 Ammo...
You don't want to fire full power 357 in a small, lightweight aluminum revolver like that. The recoil sucks and it would be much harder to be accurate with it. Kimber got this one right by making it in 38 Special +P.
"why 38 special+p" because making something right is hard
A 38+P will get the job done at close range. A 38 will get the job done...ask Lee Harvey Oswald. If he could answer he would say, hell yea.
"T6 aluminum" just tells us how it was heat treated, not what it's made of. Does he not know what alloy it is or does he not want to say it?
A 357? What a stupid question. A smart answer
The last time I had hands-on experience with kimbers revolvers was when I went in specifically to purchase a Kimber K6s. Dealer had a hard time selling the floor model and offered a discount. After offering a discount, they decided not to sell this item due to it not functioning properly (could not open cylinder). Now, I will never buy Kimber due to malfunction issues.
.22lr please
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