Why I Changed My Mind On Carrying A Revolver- Well Reasoned, or Fudd Regression?
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- čas přidán 20. 03. 2023
- After years of pretty much ignoring revolvers for concealed carry, I've seemingly done an about face. Here's why I'll normally be toting either my Ruger LCRx in .327 Fed Magnum, or my Smith and Wesson 36-2 most days.
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I’ve only had to use a gun once; two guys tried to rob me while walking my dogs. It was enough for me to put my hand on my lcr(carried underneath a pearl snap in a desantis egat slide holster) and ask “boys we about to have a problem” to end the situation. Your 100% right the industry has dictated to us what we need by pointing to the anomalies in self defense shootings. I carry a 5 shot revolver and try to be kind to everyone I meet. It’s worked for me so far…
Boys “you’re” about to have a bad day! Your choice..
Man, words to live by. Thanks for sharing your encounter.
Same for me... in the early morning a wild man that I assume was on drugs approached my car at a stoplight, and started "axing" for money because his car was broke down, while pointing to an empty gas station. No car. He kept closing and suddenly was nearly in range to reach in the window. All I had to do was retrieve from the center console and level it at him right below the door frame. He never saw a gun, just the motion. Off he went.
Sound like a made up story.
@@CurlyPewbes Don’t particularly care much what you think it sounds like.
I have a theory that everyone who carries for a long enough time will eventually start carrying a j-frame.
Been carrying daily for over three years, started with a double stack, went to a single stack, back to a double stack, now I'm looking at pocket guns and snub noses.
I refuse to not carry, so I'm looking at smaller stuff that I can throw in a pocket or trigger guard holster when I have to dress light.
Guess I hit the Bell Curve running, started with a Smith J frame. 😊
It happened to me
Started with a full sized 1911. Bounced between a few things and now? I'm currently settled on my S&W model 60 3" 357, so... Yeah, that tracks.
i been carrying since 88...started with snubby only...then carried autos as well....i still carry both..snubbie strong side and auto in shoulder
Biggest advantage, in my mind, to a revolver (hammerless or shrouded) is the ability to fire from the pocket without a malfunction. See something sketchy, but you're not sure it warrants drawing your pistol, put your hand in your pocket and you’re covertly ready for a close quarter engagement if need be, without the need to draw and cause a scene if it was indeed unwarranted.
This is exactly what my thoughts are.
Tollerant of neglect not abuse is the key component most people miss. Shooting revolvers have also improved my mindset for accuracy at all costs.
You can't miss fast enough to win is the quote that comes to mind. lol I can't remember who said it though
I agree. High capacity is not an excuse for poor marksmanship even with an autoloader. Revolvers with that limited capacity force us to be better shots. We know that most real world shooting cases compiled by Ellifritz that they only involve two or three shots to stop a threat. But six shots with a speed strip reload if necessary should be plenty even for multiple threats. We are responsible for every round that leaves our gun and there is a lawyer attached to every bullet. If I can get away with concealing my revolver then I will carry it over any of my autoloaders. No racking a slide, round in the chamber, out of battery, jams, mags, manual safeties and all the hassles that go with the manual of arms for an autoloader. Revolvers are simple and even though I shoot autoloaders well I shoot revolvers better. Hopefully we never have to draw our gun in defense of our life but at least we will be competent with it no matter which pistol we carry, revolver or autoloader. My revolver is a Taurus 856 Defender three inch .38Spl. +P in an Andicen IWB/OWB leather holster with a thumbbreak/snap. It is a small J frame and is about as large as my sub compacts. The bulge is a little bigger than my micro SIG P365 just about the same as if I carried one of my sub compacts. I carry at the 4 O'clock position most of the time but I will calf holster or shoulder holster my autos also. Thanks for the wheel love. Let's make 2023 the year of the revolver.
I have went full circle after 30 some years. Started with a 38 SP went to two other calibers with semi auto and now I’m back to 38 SP revolver. Revolvers have never failed me and the pocket carry is wonderful!
I'm a retired (30+ years) LEO. I carried an semiauto for years, but I had a revolver as a backup. I have a Chief Special (60) and an LCR. I don't feel underguned with either. It is all I need now. I'm no longer looking for trouble, but I feel I can cure it if it comes.
Depending on where I'm at, etc, I may still opt for a medium sized semi-auto with higher capacity, but I normally feel just fine with 6 rounds in the gun, and another 6 in my pocket. A lot depends on if I'm in an area where violent crime is more of a "group activity" or not
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As a Boomer & retired cop I was forced to use my issued .38 more than once during my career, having to reload once under fire, and learned to trust revolvers. In retirement I still carry a J Frame but modern auto loaders make sense for today’s LEOs. My daily orbits include going to lunch with my retired cop buddies, grocery shopping or medical appointments; all of which are pretty safe.
I have carried a little bit of everything over the years. I used to carry a Glock 19 and let me tell you, after about 2-3 hours I was ready to chuck that heavy bulky thing off my hip! I got into some of the micro 9mm and .380’s, but they were extremely finicky with ammo and I never could bring myself to be confident with them. I recently went back to a S&W 442 and doubt I’ll ever go back. Now I will say, if I’m going to a sketchy area, big city, or far from home I’ll bring the Glock 19. But I’m going on 40 years old, I’m married, and have 3 kids. I don’t stay out late and don’t go to sketchy areas. I’m also not going back to Fallujah anytime soon, so my little j frame with a speed strip in the pocket is perfect for my grocery trips lol. You’re 100% right about the firearms industry. I think the capacity argument has become more of a marketing gimmick. And honestly, in 99.9% of scenarios if a little 5 shot j frame isn’t going to get you out of trouble you probably need a rifle. A lot of the tactical bros don’t think about legality issues of defensive carry/shooting either. You shoot much more than 5, MAYBE 10, rounds in a defensive scenario and you better have a top tier lawyer because you’re probably on your way to prison! I’d rather defend myself to a jury with a 5 shot revolver than a “super cool tactical” 17+1 semiautomatic. At the end of the day I’m not getting any younger. I’m all about comfort and concealment. I LOVE that I can literally carry my j frame no matter what I’m wearing. It’s my on me at all times gun!
I spent 20 years in the military and trained with semi autos the entire time. In the military you NEED a high capacity pistol as a secondary to your rifle. But as a civilian now, I use something I never got the chance to use- a 5 shot .38 special LCR. It’s the best firearm I have ever owned. And yes, it’s all I need as a civilian. I love revolvers. They are simple, practical, and reliable. Most excellent self defense firearm.
Glad to see another veteran thinks the same way I do. Hooah!!! Thank you for your service!!!
Civilians should be banned from owning weapons of war. Wouldn't you agree?
@@scottishd0g87 to be honest, the AR 15 is semi automatic weapon to look like a weapon of war. I personally don’t have a need for one, some individuals may feel more comfortable with one. This is just my opinion, I have had my time behind a rifle, I personally don’t need more time behind that particular rifle.
@@scottishd0g87 The entire point of the second amendment was, because our founding fathers just got finished fighting a war against their government, fighting a tyranny that might have been a little better armed, they wanted to make sure the future citizens of this country wouldn't be so under-gunned if tyranny should return. Gun laws will only do two things. It will keep the right tools for defense out of the hands of the law abiding, while criminals and tyrants, who either work around the law or above it, will still be armed. In a world without guns, tyrants and criminals still have means to destroy. What a gun does is, for the first time in history, the weak, sickly, less athletic people have an equalizer. Fist to fist, knife to knife, bludgeon to bludgeon, sword to sword, the strong, agile, and young always are at an advantage. Gun to gun, that's less the case. It's not about what YOU think people need. (And if you think no one has ever needed a high capacity semi-auto to defend their home from multiple intruders, the burden of evidence is on you to explain away all the many examples available on the internet out there.) It's about having access to the right tools so that when the need arises, we can defend the innocent, or the innocent can defend themselves. Gun laws also make firearm ownership so expensive that only the wealthy, elite, and criminal can own them. It literally leaves the weaker, more vulnerable, more poverty stricken people without support. And if you're thinking cops? They're always minutes away when seconds count.
@@scottishd0g87 I swear to god that better be sarcasm.
NYC guy here, just bought the 6 shot Kimber K6xs snub revolver. .38 special +P not the heavier K6s in .357. Urban life is often up close, people try to grab you. No slide means no slide lock, push into chest or gut and shoot. Country people may approach from further back and be armed. Urban is wrestling range and possibly strong arm robbery. Overpenetration and hitting bystanders is another issue here. Just a few thoughts for everyone from my area.
How you liking the k6xs, 5 months later?
A solid question, I've shot it a good amount and with 5 different types of ammo. It is snappy and inaccurate. I'm a decent shooter. I put it down and go to a different gun and I'm cutting out the center of an NRA target at 10 yards. This is a back up gun or a 5 yard anti-strong arm robbery . What I said still stands but this is a very situational firearm.
Nothing wrong with carrying a revolver. There's a time and place for them, no doubt. Plus you can't deny the simplicity of a revolver.
100%! Point and pull trigger lol
Big fan of my LCR in 327 federal magnum. It's reliable, powerful and easy to carry. Never a misfire or jam and it will fire 5 different cartridges. The double action only gives me peace of mind from a safety standpoint. Great video, thanks for publishing!
Thanks for the kind words! Love mine also. Carry it daily
I've carried semi autos both micro compact and full size. But I always come back to snubbie revolvers, either my j-frame or the LCR because it's so simple and safe to carry and extremely fast to engage the sort of close-in attackers an average citizen is likely to encounter. Also, both the speed loaders and pocket holsters can be used with both models.
I'm certainly seeing the appeal now that I've come over to the snubnose life lol
As long as I stay outside of a war zone, I feel pretty comfortable with a .357 Magnum. Something that has come to my awareness as I've gotten older is that most criminals have a rather weak morale. I've noticed this a number of times while watching videos of real defensive shootings. When one thug is dropped, the rest of them tend to flee. They are very different from well regimented soldiers who will stand and fight regardless of how frightening the situation has become.
Most people i know do not feel comfortable carrying one in the chamber with semi auto me included. I feel very comfortable carrying a revolver with the safer 10lb.trigger.
Not carrying chambered is wild.
Not as safe as a semi still.
The comfort and reliability are hard to argue, especially as I’ve gotten older and spend less time out and about. Great content.
There are many reasons to carry a revolver and as you say, statistically, one may not ever need it..... but if the need arises:
In a grappling situation, if you have an internal hammer revolver you can fire it from a pocket.... also in a struggle, you may have to press the muzzle into against an assailant's body and the revolver will still function.... where is a semi-automatic may be pushed out of battery slightly and not fire as a result !
There is also the firing under stress factor where, if you're not holding on to your semi-automatic tight enough, it may fail to fully cycle causing a jam or a failure to feed for a follow-up round.
One more reason is that if you have to fire and run for cover there's the possibility that you may slip and fall on a spent shell that ejected on the ground below your feet... those are valuable seconds lost that can cause the worst possible outcome to the situation for you.
My first reach is for my revolver with a semi-automatic as a backup if I happen to be going to an unfavorable area for business any reason.
Ladtly, regarding the legality involved in shooting someone, weather in self defence defense or not.
In most if not all states if you shoot someone, even in self-defense, you will immediately be arrested and things will be sorted out later... and in court it could weigh against you if you used and fired excessive amounts of shots from a hi cap. semi- auto versus a revolver with a 5 or 6 round capacity. The courts do not look favorably on high-capacity pistols whether it be a defense or offense situation.
In cold weather, even if you're toting a wonder nine under a heavy coat, that J frame in your exterior coat pocket is a great idea.
i’ve been in the “gun world" for about a decade now and I’m starting to realize all those old timers kind a new thing or two. One thing about revolvers that no one talks about they’re just more comfortable to carry because they’re curved.
Yes, and they take advantage of the way your wrist bends when you point at something.
It’s also helpful to remember our jobs as concealed carriers is not to be conducting counter-insurgency operations against a large, opposing force. We are to avoid trouble if at all possible, and when we can’t, we are to stop life threatening behaviors not kill large numbers of people in close quarters. If you were an off duty law enforcement officer and potentially subject to more extreme scenarios there is plenty of justification for a high capacity, semi-auto handgun but for civilian personal defense it’s questionable whether or not red dot optics, illuminators, and high capacity magazines serve any purpose beyond deferring to marketing hype. I can appreciate all that new technology but seriously when I go out of the house I’m carrying my Ruger SP101 and one extra speed strip.
The red dot sights DO make a difference. Whether they are NEEDED for your application or anyone else's is a question only you can answer for yourself. Depending on where I'm going and what I'm doing, I do opt for something with a light and RDS. Just like choosing a screwdriver for whatever you're working on- you might need a tiny Phillips working on a watch, or a very large flathead for automotive needs. But for me, at this point in my life, in my environment- I feel just fine with the LCR
Generally a snubby goes out the door with me. They're just plain convenient and adequate. Sam Colt made the first revolver in 1836 and they've been getting folks home safe ever since. I expect they'll continue to do that for a while longer.
I'd imagine you're 100% correct.
I’m a senior citizen and spent more than 20 years in law enforcement. When I became a police officer in the early 70s we were required to carry revolvers as our duty weapon. As such, I became very proficient with revolvers and found them totally dependable. And, while I now own multiple semi-autos I tend to carry a 38 snub nose most often.
I carry the LCR in 38 special, with 2 speed strips on my front pocket most comfortable gun to carry.
As I age, just passing 73, I seek to simplify my world including my carry options. I started as a revolver guy and am returning to be a revolver guy with the exception of my full size 1911s in .45 ACP. 357/38SPL is my current load out in 4-inch, 3-inch and snubby lengths. I carry all the time as long as it’s within the law. I’m a former LEO and certified instructor. I carry because “man’s inhumanity to man” is growing geometrically.
I also think a lot of people don’t realize when you get into a self-defense shooting you have to answer for every single round that you fired so yes it is nice having a 10, 12, 15 and 17 round magazines for worse situations but it’s going to be hard to justify said amount of rounds to a jury… My point being it can be beneficial having a lower round count and a small revolver. And yes you Don’t have to use every single round but I’d be willing to say 90% of people in a high stress situation will mag dump every one of those rounds. So I believe a well trained person with five or six rounds can handle just about any situation an average citizen would be in.
Definitely have to be accountable for every round fired, and what/ who they hit. I think in some situations, I'd like more capacity, so I change my carry to something like my CZ P07 or Sig Macro. But that's normally when traveling to or through locales where "pack attacks" are more common.
100%.
9-10 ccw folks neglect to work on or practice situational awareness.
Avoiding confrontation is an art all its own.
If have to go before a jury, you've already lost.
I couldn't agree more. The double action always scared me away without trying one. Always wanted a 327 when they first came out, but never pulled the trigger. When the LCR came out I purchased an X model in 327 snub about 6 months ago. I also started reloading at that time. If you reload, the 327 is the best self defense caliber made. 71 grn Barry's round nose makes great plinkers at 8 cents a piece, and 3 grains of Zip, or titegroup. I load those in S&W longs. In fact I load even my self defense rounds in longs to get the extra barrel length at around 32K pressure. Use either the 75 grain Leigh ED which i load in H&R mag brass to get the case volume with the longer bullet, with 6 grns of CF pistol. Getting around 1280fps. 85 XTPs I use 6.5 and getting a little lower at 1250. Totally controllable. I load 4 of those, and 2 104 Federal HST's for the last shots just in case. Those are a kick in the nuts with the light weight LCR, very hot. I shoot it so much I decided to buy another one with the enclosed hammer I won't shoot much, and use for CCW. The plus is it can be shot out of a hoodie pocket, purse and it will always go bang. If not just pull the trigger again. Dirtbag can't jam it either if he tries to grab it. Also ordered a 357 with the enclosed hammer as well, and play around with loadings between 38 +p and 357. I also bought some Starline short colt brass. It's about as long as a 9 cartridge. I'll be getting rid of my autos except the ones I really like.
BTW The trigger on the LCR is very smooth, and has actually improved my shooting having to steer it before it breaks, and cuts down of flinching because you don't know when it's going to go off Totally sold!
FYI, there's a free reloading program, Gordan's on the web. It calculates pressure. I load everything to around 32-35K no matter what size brass, longs, H and R mag. Don't use the 327 mag brass. Useless in a snubbie. It also calculates the amount of powder burn, and efficiency. I stick mainly to Titegroup, HP-38, and CF-Pistol. same velocities without the blast. I label the box of ammo with load data incase I croak and some unlikely soul obtains the ammo and tries one of my "longs" in his 1897 colt.
As a former LEO, I started out with a 357 revolver, then a Colt 1911, 45 acp later on at the same department. Years later at a different department I carried a Sig 220, 45 acp.
The ironic part is, I always carried a revolver as my back up gun and off duty gun. At both department we had to furnish our own weapons and could choose anything we wanted, other than a rimfire.
I qualified with my S&W airweight 38 spl just like I did with all of the other duty weapons and shot it almost as well even at 25 and 50 yards when qualifying, shooting expert.
Today, many years after leaving LE, I still carry a revolver.
The only time I ever had to use a gun was before I was a LEO and it happened to be a stack barrel derringer(I was young and poor and it was what I had). It kept me from being robbed and beaten up by two would be thugs in the middle of no where. I can and will use whatever is at my disposal when necessary, but I put a lot of faith in a revolver, otherwise I would have carried a semi-auto as my back up gun.
I also carry an LCR for EDC concealed. I live in rural NY. I put a lot of thought into my first pistol and went with a revolver for many reasons. I have a lever action .357 so a companion pistol was a good idea. Again I live in rural NY so chances are if I EVER need to use my firearm it will be against 1 maybe 2 people tops. I am confident with the training I have and practice I get that I can confidently protect myself and others with 5 shots. I also mentioned I live in NY, I know my state is a communist run area and so I also thought about the legal ramifications if I have to use my firearm for self defense. I think that if I did use a revolver for self defense, it would look better in NY court using an "antiquated", non-"scary" looking, non-semi auto pistol for defense. That's just my opinion. I really like the feel and shootability of the LCR and I'm glad I choose it as my CCW.
I carry a revolver because I don’t want to lose my brass casings on the ground. Revolvers are less likely to malfunction during fights or entanglements. Revolvers can be fired while concealed in a pocket and won’t malfunction. 327 Fed Mag is very powerful and performs equal to 9mm. Revolvers do not rely on previous cartridge cycling a slide and chambering a new round. Revolvers are less likely to malfunction due to lint from normal carrying conditions. Revolvers are excellent for educating new shooters and training good habits and trigger discipline. Revolver Grips can be personalized to the shooter better than any semi auto handgun, even better than the newest modular semi autos.
I can't find any fault with your statement. Well reasoned for sure!
I would add two more advantages of a revolver. Revolvers can be loaded and unloaded easily without bullet setback. This helps if you want to unload everyday, perhaps to dry fire, without wasting carry ammunition. Also dry fire is more realistic through multiple trigger cycles.
Well said. The best firearm is the one you have on your person at all times, not the 50 gun collection you have at home. That’s great if someone tries to break in, but then you can still only grab one😁. Having a gun that you WILL consistently carry (out of comfort) will serve you better.
Revolvers are also great for close quarters with someone trying to grab the slide not being an issue is you end up wrestling around.
Concealment is also a major factor for me. I’m 5’7 165lbs and that gun disappears on my
4 o’clock strong side
Solid words and observations!! Even at 6'1", 270, I STILL have to be mindful of concealment at times depending on what I'm wearing and doing.
my wife & i actually traded all our semi-autos for revolvers. We now train with a Ruger LCR and also a Rock Island Armory AL9...both are great :)
I carry a Ruger GP 100 in .327 magnum. I love that gun. I live in San Antonio, Tx, but I'd carry this weapon in just about any environment shy of bear country . While having a firearm, is nice. My most powerful self defense weapon is my brain. I practice common sense as if I wasn't packing heat.
You're 100% correct. GP100's in .327 are getting rare it seems! Cool piece!!
Yup I agree. It's the most underrated and most dangerous weapon we have with us at all times.
Welcome home brother lol. I went through a very similar process when I first started carrying a gun as a young adult and I was positive I could never have enough ammo I carried two spare magazines, a Glock 17 appendix the whole 9. Then I went down to a Glock 43x in a side car with two shield arms mags. Then I started carrying a ruger LCR in a phlster city special with the occasional speed loader. I realized the same thing. If I’m just going to put gas in my wifes car or somewhere that is not a “target rich” environment I don’t always need nor want to carry a whole sidecar rig. I’ve also carried a gun for a living for the past 5 years doing executive protection (bodyguard) work. I have worked in and around some VERY sketchy places and people and I think that played into my mentality of I don’t think I’d ever need the full 71 rounds I carry at WORK when I’m more likely than anyone else to actually get into a gunfight much less when I’m at the grocery store and if I DO I’m either dead already or having the worst day ever lol. Snubbys have their place for sure and when I’m in the suburbs of Dallas where I live I usually carry one and when I make the drive up to the city I’ll put on the 43x.
I also carry mostly LCR's, for the same reasons, primarily the 327. I opted for the concealed hammer for several reasons, mostly because the X versions lack the screw joining the polymer to the steel at the rear sight. Throw a Roger's grip on there with a little stippling on the front and back straps, and you've got a practical Space Cowboy: great triggers, light weight and the polymer plus the high-tech coatings make them near rust-proof.
That's a good point. I may trade out for the concealed hammer at some point. It was what they had, and I thought I'd play with the single action more than I have lol
Enjoy the channel, keep them coming. Carry Glocks most of the time. But I own a Colt Detective Special and Colt Cobra. Made in ‘73 and ‘75. Love both and carry the Cobra at times. Have never felt under gunned. But started carrying a revolver in 82 through 91 when I started policing. Moved to semi auto until retirement in 07. I like the revolver vibe!
Brother one of the best explanation on carry I’ve heard in a while.
I myself carry a 327 Taurus in owb holster so my hats off to you.
Keep the good videos coming your doing great
My LCR has another advantage -- it is actually much easier to conceal than any semi-auto, no matter how slim. Sure, the cylinder is thicker, but even in the most rudimentary holster the gun does not print like the straight-edged semi-autos will. Try it in a mirror.
That's a really good point and I'm glad you made it. The ONLY caveat I have to that is that a lot DOES depend on the carry location. For instance, in appendix, if the holster isn't actively pulling the grip into the body via some sort of wing (like the Harry's Holsters Icon 2.0 in the cover pic of this video) AND the grip is longer, it can create a bulge that might scream gun.
But the point remains, as you said- a LOT less hard angles
Very well put. I am currently in the boat of carrying semi autos but the comfort thing gets to me and you rationalized the reason to carry a revolver and plenty of good points to go with it. I might just have to carry a speed loader with rounds in it to feel better about the capacity. I really do like magnum rounds I just do not own any. Atleast you get that added power from the magnum rounds to counter the size and capacity.
I frequent my local shop about once a week, and there are always people looking at the revolvers, and buying them. I asked them if they still sell a considerable amount of revolvers and they do . Being a Fudd myself, I am also scoping out those cases!
They do seem to have remained fairly popular, and dare I say, even increasing in popularity here the last couple years.
@Archetype of Man I agree! Probably close to half of my "Hand Tool " collection are revolvers... Maybe more than half.
Surprisingly, my primary FFL in CA doesn't sell many revolvers. As such, I tend to have to order a revolver through their distributor and wait 1-2 months before I can hurry up and wait for the 10 day waiting period.
Boa noite aqui do Brasil, sou policial aposentado e mesmo tendo trabalhado com pistolas semi automáticas e revolveres, até hoje utilizo meu taurus 85s com um jetloader reserva. Amo revólver. Deus abençoe as Américas 🇧🇷🤝🇺🇲Good evening here in Brazil, I'm a retired police officer and even though I worked with semi-automatic pistols and revolvers, to this day I use my Taurus 85s with a spare jetloader. I love revolvers. God bless is Américas 🇧🇷🤝🇺🇲
Márcio, como vc porta seu jetloader? É no bolso mesmo? E obg pelo seu trabalho realizado.
@@brunomuss32 boa noite amigo. Eu costumo colocar em porta jets no cinto, ou um no cinto e outro no bolso, mas acho que no bolso prejudica demais a recarga. Como nos anos 90 o cinturão da polícia tinha os porta jets do lado direito,me acostumei assim, pois fica perto da mão direita. Tem gente que faz a recarga com a mão esquerda,eu não me adaptei . Não sei se consegui explicar.
Excellent points here. I agree with your mindset and follow the same logic. 😊
I carry a Ruger LCR 38 special +P. I like that the size is small enough to carry in my jeans pocket with a pocket holster. I do carry 2 quick loaders for extra ammo just in case.
7:21 This is what people need to hear. Don’t lose sight of what’s most important. Live your life and live those around you first and foremost.
I've never seen a revolver jam. I've seen many semi-autos jam. They are easier to clean too, which is nice because 99% of people will never shoot them except on the range. Simplicity and reliability, that's the two most important factors in CCW after concealment.
I've seen Revolvers Jam, but I worked at a pistol range for 7 years. The ejector crane sometimes gets loose and won't let you open the cylinder. High primers, or gunk under the extractor, can freeze it up, but that's about the only time I've seen them jam, and it's very rare. My carry is a S&W 637 38 special.
I had a s&w 640 in .357 .After 10 rounds it overheated and jammed, then a few seconds later went back to normal.
@@WilliamsKnifeLife I’ve generally had good luck with revolvers, only two issues I’ve run into is the ejector crane coming loose on two of my older S&W’s, and having to send my new 442 back to S&W because the trigger wouldn’t reset about once every 3-4 cylinders of ammunition. Hopefully S&W can find what the problem is and fix it because it doesn’t inspire confidence in me that my revolver needed me to pinch the trigger and manually push it forward again once every 15-20 shots.
@Verdha603 I'm not a Gunsmith but I've worked on a lot of my own guns. It sounds like the trigger return spring needs replaced, and,or something in the movement path of the trigger needs smoothing down.
I love my LCR in .327 Fed Mag. Very concealable and very comfy. Thanks for the video. New subscriber from Central Tx.
Thank you! I concur on the LCR in .327 :)
Excellent conversation good case for a reliable self defense weapon. I own many revolvers and practice frequently. I recently added a Ruger LCR .327 Mag and really like it and carry it in a Harry’s Holster which is incredibly comfortable. I ride motorcycle that holster and gun carry comfortable and is easy to access and safely draw. If one practices they can become very proficient. The key is shoot the darn thing and run stress drills work to improve your proficiency. Nice conversation and dissertation. As a side note I also own several semi autos and shoot them as well. I carry them too. One of my favorite is a full size HK 45 and a Sig micro 9mm. But when woods walking or bike riding that LCR or Chiappa 357 sits concealed on my person. Investing in reloading allows allot of practice. 💪🇺🇸
Thank you, Michael, I really appreciate the kind words. I also ride, and I find it much more comfortable to carry a revolver than a semi-auto. I'm working on getting better with revolvers here lately, and you're 100% correct about reloading. I don't think I can go back to buying factory ammo now that I've tasted the world of loading what I need, when I need it. Making sure I stay stocked on components so that I can be immune from seasonal shifts on availability. lol
True, deciding what you wish to carry is all about risk management. That's another word for gambling. My "trail gun" is a Chiappa Rhino 4" 357 magnum, sometimes backed-up with a Henry X-gun in 357 magnum.
Valid points made. Thanks for posting,
Thank you for the kind words!!
Nice/Practical discussion with solid points. The NEXT phase is to migrate to Shrouded/Hammerless variants. Git'good in DAO (and no hammer spur to snag a draw nor chew up your clothes). Learn to stage the cylinder if your just certain you're gonna one day take a 75 yard+ shot. DAO/Hammerless is the final destination. LCR, S&W Centennial 40/340 family, or the 332/432 unicorns in .32 H&R Mag, Kimber K6. (Chiappa's are abt the only non-snaggle-ish "hammer spur" design). Shoot safe all!
My buddy Larry worked for Lowes as a self contractor, he wore his weapon all the time and some people won't allow him in their house to install anything and some asked him WHY he carried and his answer was, he wanted to go home at the end of the day. Some would even call lowes to complaint, but it was little lowes could do about it.
Welcome to the club! I'm a boomer, love all weapons. I carry a 357, 4inch Dan Wesson when i can. But mostly a j-frame and a NAA 22mag as a backup. First time on your channel. I subbed. 👍
You raised good points. Thank you
Glad it was helpful! Thank you for the kind words!
I own and occasionally carry a 442 no lock. It’s the best grab n go to the store, mailbox, or for walks around my neighborhood. I wouldn’t be worried if it’s all I had, especially with an additional 6-18 extra rounds on me.
Good video, new to wheel guns judy started carrying a no dash sniffing lesson 640. So much fun to shoot definitely not forgiving of bad fundamentals I’ve got so much better after dedication for 6 months Solely shooting it on all my others.
The simplicity of a revolver and the reliability and the fact that the gun isn’t going to go off unless you intend it to (with proper safety and training) make a revolver a suitable choice for many 👍🇺🇸
I’m a big fan of the LCR, both in 22lr and 327.
I certainly understand why!
Great video, got me to really think. After 45 years of carrying mostly j frame I started up with semi auto and really can’t beat the flinch that I acquired with the light J frame, Now rethinking an all steel J and going back to that .
Welcome to the Club, Bro. Now you understand why I'm most often armed with a wheelirgat...or two...you know...NY reload things. 🤣 Yes, are there times More is Better, absolutely. Carry what's APPROPRIATE for the situation and most of all, BE PREPARED, both mentally and Spiritually, to "handle Business" if forced to do so. Welcome to Enlightenment. ✌🏼✌🏼
I'm absolutely hooked. Between this revolver, this holster, and this caliber- I don't carry much else these days. Occasionally, I take my P365 Macro, but thus is the ticket. Lol
@@ArchetypeofMan The .327 magnum is good because the ballistics are inbetween .357 magnum and 9x19. You get Better ballistics with less recoil. And it's in a more carryable package. I find myself carrying either my S&W 437 or my Taurus 605. Especially the 605 because its .357 magnum.
Ol Caleb Giddings is working for Taurus these days. Been eyeing a few of their new offerings he's showing off on Instagram lol Their optics ready revolver is intriguing and their Executive Grade wheel guns look NICE!!
@@ArchetypeofMan He SHOULD be working at Micky D's, because he's an F'ing Clown. That reminds me...that little Spat is how I found Your channel! 👍🏼
@@SierraBravo347 YES!! I thought I was the only one! Can’t stand the guy. Arrogant and rude as hell.
Great video. Thoughtful and helpful. Subbed.
Thank you, Sean!
I started my CCW journey with the Glock 19, tried the Sig P365 XL, went to the Glock 48 MOS all kitted out, and now I have a Ruger LCR in .38 with a speed strip for the rare possibility of needing to reload. Light weight, decent caliber, and I ALWAYS carry it instead of leaving it at home/in the car.
Revolver is the best carry platform for a variety of reasons. For example, no jams, requires almost no thought to operate under extreme duress, it never requires two hands to operate, and it leaves no casings behind.
Definitely has a lot to recommend it!
It's all you will ever need 5-round jframe-- I have the 360 pd- changed the springs.
Another reason to like revolvers is their simplicity. If it ever comes to a situation where you need to shoot in self defense, your brain might not be working right from all the adrenaline going through your head. Has anyone ever been really tired and done something stupid when their brain just wasn't working right? For example, I know a few times I've almost put soap on my toothbrush instead of toothpaste when I was really tired in the morning. Yet, I have plenty of "training" and practice brushing my teeth every day. It still happens sometimes. Well, with a revolver, the chances of having a user induced malfunction is really small. As long as you have rounds in the cylinder, point it in the right direction, and pull the trigger, its going to fire. There's no safeties, decock levers, round in the chamber etc.
Also, reliability. It is true that a modern quality semi automatic is just as or more reliable than a revolver in general. But I haven't found that to be the case when you get into sub compact sized guns like the ruger lcp, s&w bodyguard etc. Those tiny semi autos are definitely prone to malfunctions than larger semi autos at least in my experience. They are more picky about what kind of ammo you use in them and its especially important to have a proper tight grip on them when you fire them because if you don't, you are very likely to get a limp wrist malfunction. Well, if you are involved in a physical scuffle, you might even have someone on top of you beating the crap out of you, it might not be possible to get a textbook proper grip on your gun. That's not a problem with a revolver. Revolvers don't lose reliability when you shrink them down to small sizes the way that semi autos do. At least in my experience. Ymmv.
Its a matter of the first rule of gunfighting, always wear a serious sidearm. An LCR, J frame S&W, or slim single stack semiautoloader in a pocket or on the belt outperforms the AK, AR, UZi, service pistol Sig, CZ, or Glock in the vehicle console or vault at home.
I'm one of those "boomers" you mentioned. I have carried a sidearm since 1975 when the Marine Corps strapped me with a rattletrap 1911 at the impressionable age of 19. The first handgun I purchased when I got out of the Corps was a Smith Model 19 with a six inch barrel. Carried that in a Galco shoulder rig until I bought a satin nickel Colt 1911 a couple of years later. Fast forward to today and find an old man with two safes full of a lifetime's passion. While a six inch barrel doesn't fall into my carry regimen these days, I absolutely still tote a revolver on occasion. I never feel under gunned with one either. Oh, and so far in the last 48 years, I've never once had to present my sidearm in a hostile situation. The world has certainly changed though...knock on wood.
I heard some stories about the 1911s they used to issue
Growing up in gun culture in the late 80s and 90s, I was in an era where autos AND revolvers were side by side, even carried at the same time.
Absolutely, different tools for different purposes. Pocket carry can be much more easily done with an Airweight Centennial than an LCP, or a Ruger .357 SP101 will turn off an angry feral dog faster than a 9mm P365.
I wish more folks weren't so close minded to the utility of a revolver. But, it is what it is. More for us, I guess lol
Great Topic, Thanks for your point of view! 💪🇺🇸
28.5 year retired LEO, was initially trained on the revolver, mainly carried Glock there after. I currently carry a LCRX in 38, and a
Glock 45 if needed. The LCRX is wonderful to carry all the time! I never feel undergunned.
I love your honesty
I'm 75 years old. When I started shooting back in the 60s we had revolvers, 1911s and HiPowers. 9mm ammunition didn't reliably expand, so 357 and 45acp were preferred. Since then lots of things have changed. Small light semi's with great capacity have improved our choices dramatically. But wheel guns still get the job done and are convenient to drop in a pocket or waistband. An LCR goes out the door with me quite often. There are Shields and 365s in the mix too but usually it's a 38 special I have. So far that's been enough.
Ive been carrying a .32 Smith&Wesson long calibered Rossi revolver in some form of 'manbag' for 38 years, have never needed to use it in anger God forbid i ever do! The beauty of the revolver is the simplicity! I have practiced emulating a situation where i might have to fire the first shot from inside the bag, works perfect, no slide to worry about!
Semi autos are marvelous pieces of mechenical wizardry, but the revolver remains the 'real world' fighters gun! IMO
Great video! Just got my Ruger 327 a few weeks ago.. solid gun
Lcr 327 federal magnum 👍
My carry has been the LCR in 38+P. 5 rounds. Recently purchased a 686 that hold 7 rounds of 357. Just purchased a S&W model 327 that holds 8 rounds of 357. With a 2" barrel it is easy to carry.
Good job man! Well thought out content. I'm 50 and been carrying my whole adult life. You touched on the key topics. Environment and situation, and life experience. I have a couple revolvers that I carry, from a Colt King Cobra to a Charter Arms Bulldog, and feel completely comfortable with them. However, most of the time, I'm carrying my Beretta PX4 Storm compact from LTT. I also factor in cost of the gun. I'll take a $500 gun if I know it's going to be a rough day on it at work, and save my $1000 gun for the Harley ride on Sunday. I laugh at the guys who are convinced they need 17 rounds to leave the house, especially younger guys. Carry for 20 years and get back to me on how you feel about that. 😂
I hate that carrying or liking revolvers makes you a “fudd” to the tac-to-cool crowd. I’m a young guy and I like higher capacity 9s for their designed intention of getting as many adequate rounds as possible but not everyone is comfortable with semi autos and the simple manual of arms of a revolver to many is safer. I also like that revolvers can handle more powerful rounds with ease and having mountain lions and black bear where I’m at I’d rather have a 357 mag than a 9 in the woods. Both have their places today for one reason or another and the tac-ti-cool crowd shows how much of fudds that they are when they fail to acknowledge that
I've heard LCR in 22 is pretty good. That extremely heavy trigger pull results in thor's hammer being dropped on those little rimfire cartridges, which means you never have light primer strikes as a result of the firearm.
Great video!!!!
I EDC a Ruger SP101 in 327. It has a 3" barrel, so I get a bit more velocity, but more importantly a longer sight radius. I chose it over a 365 for all the same reasons as yourself. Plus, I love the simplicity of revolvers, and I tend to shoot them better than small framed, polymer guns.
Before the Navy I was a corrections officer and owned a M&P 40, a bodyguard 380, a SR40C and a LCR 357. I am also a larger man with curves lol and at that time was 300 Plus LBS. I lived in Vermont at the time with open carry being allowed and constitutional carry. I mostly open carried because my main concern was running into a former inmate or someone on probation who knew I was a Corrections officer and wanted them to know I was armed and to leave me alone. But I also opened carried because of being a large man the flat shape of a Semi auto against me with my fat rolls was not comfortable and I was not a fan of the deep concealment holster. So If I was concealed carrying I always had my LCR because a revolver especially a smaller one I think actually fits the shape of the human body better. And I was never worried about being under gunned. I would be shooting to defend my self and get out of the situation. There guys out here are conceal carrying full sized hand guns with more mags that police like they are going to get into a rolling gun battle with issi or something. The odds of you having to use it in the first place are pretty low for most of country as it is. I am finally going to get a handgun again for home defense and I am going to apply for my CCW now that San Diego made a exemption for Military who are not CA residents and stationed here. I will be limited to 10 rounds with any semi auto anyways and the other “safety” features you have to have on semi autos in CA. So I leaning towards a revolver because i trust 5 357 more than 10 9mm. Or even 6 327 more. I also have a anti gun wife that I can get one gun for now without making a strain on are marriage and revolvers are less scary to her lol. Also one big thing people don’t realize or talk about, if someone has gotten so close to you that you can touch them you can push a revolver into there chest and it will not go out of battery. And you can carry the strip clips in you pocket and it just looks like a wallet or something normal. At the end of the day get why you know you are willing to carry every day regardless of clothing type. If I get a J frame or LCR i know that I will carry that on me wether I am walk along the beach in shorts and sandals, going on a 50 mile bicycle ride(I am a avid cyclist there days) or going out to a fancy restaurant with my wife. I can’t say the same for a Glock 17 or even a 19 for some of those situations.
I’ve recently went back to revolvers also, mostly for the same reasons. I agree with everything except the gun not working due to sweat BUT it would make it harder to manipulate if wet.
New sub great video! It's the same with my lifestyle, I work from home so I am in or around the house 75% of the week so I also carry a revolver the majority of the time (previously a 5-shot Ruger SP101 but recently I bought the new Kimber K6xs 6-shot 38 special with +P carry ammo). I am also in the southeast so I'm wearing cargo shorts most of the year and this new Kimber will be a great pocket carry revolver. When going out to events where there are many people, shopping, restaurant, church etc, I will carry my Shield plus but for most of my week I am carrying a revolver.
This makes a lot of sense; a carry rotation for different scenarios... Thanks. A 5 or 6-shot revolver for more deep concealment; a higher capacity semi-auto for crowded areas... Perhaps a .44 Mag (!) for the woods. They all have different applications. My main go-to for home defense is my 7-shot .357 Magnum Taurus 627 Tracker, for example.
Just got my LCR, i love semi-autos but i have seen a couple too many failures from them especially the smaller ones which was unsettling for me. Revolvers are definitely a more solid option.
Absolutely
When I was a kid working for my dad during the summer, he once asked me to grab a hammer. So I walked over to his tools, slapped my brother on the arm and asked him to hand me a hammer. When I handed my dad the hammer, he slapped me upside the head and said "Get the right fucking hammer". He stormed over and grabbed another one, held up both "This is a sheet metal hammer, this is every day normal hammer, we are working with sheet metal. Use the right tool designed for the job". After that educational moment, and slugging my brother in the arm, I learned not to grab the first thing I see or what I'm being blindly handed. Revolvers work for the risk assessment you have deemed, and the same goes for the auto loader. Right tool designed for the task. Good on you for coming to this point!
I’ve come full circle back to J frames and I feel like I have been set free. It’s also an emotional reset that has taken me down a notch to where I can relax and enjoy life. Lugging around an offensive weapon for 45 years was actually negatively affecting my quality of life. All I need is something to break contact and give me space if assaulted. The greatest daily threat I face are dangerous off leash dogs.
I tend to believe you are absolutely right about the gun industry and what most gun people say that more and bigger is better. I do agree based on threat level is how you should appropriately be armed. I’m a big revolver guy as well and carry a 5 shot SW 442 from time to time, but in moderate to low threat environments I’ll carry my Kimber micro 9, 7+1. It’s an awesome point and shoot pistol, very accurate and safe to carry, just need to be proficient with manual of arms since it has a safety. Thinking of picking up the new Kimber K6 XS 6 shot 38 plus p revolver.
Great video by the way.
I have a few months till I can legally buy guns and I’ll be buying an LCRx because of where I live. I have problems with Bears coyotes and mountain lions way more often than I do people. In my entire life of living where I do I’ve only ever had a problem with a single person in my neighborhood because we live out in the mountains and they were high and were wandering around looking for their son that they were not supposed to be contacting at all. But I will get other kinds of handguns for different situations. Like I’ll get an NAA mini revolver purely for snakes. And a P365 for when I go to the city. And a Beretta tomcat because I think they’re neat.
I’ve never heard of a 327 ever wow! Thanks for the new caliber I learned of
Eight years Marine Corps infantry, now a police officer. I carried and shot both semi autos and revolvers. Current off duty carry gun is a Taurus 856 ultra light. It's light, accurate as I can be and unintrusive. I can throw a couple speed strips in my pocket and not feel outgunned. It's not the 53 rounds I carry on duty but if I need to shoot that much off duty I'm either extraordinarily unlucky or made some serious judgment errors which resulted in an issue. I've also just always liked revolvers.
My 3 inch GP 100 in 357 is EASY to Open carry on weekends.... I DO believe in 357 "One Shot Stop" capability
It got that reputation for a reason!
I carry a G22, gen3 stock in a Kydex strong side IWB holster. It's a little bulky... but I feel well protected with it. Point and click. I will also carry a Taurus 605 with 38 special +P also in a Kydex IWB holster - and this conceals much better. It's also point and click. So it kind of depends on time of year and where I'm going. With the revolver, I add a speed strip with a reload....
The S&w 638 is my go to for pocket carry
Started with target and long range competition using revolvers years ago. Went to autoloaders to carry. After years of 9mm pistols, picked up an LCR in 9mm. Now I carry it more than my pistols.
I'm pretty much in the same boat. I carry either my Taurus 856 or my charter arms boxer (unbelievably underrated gun) with me every day to work. I also carry a speed strip giving me one reload. That's my set up pretty much anytime I'm by myself. I carry my x-marco most of the time I go anywhere with my family. In my mind, more ppl to protect equals more bullets on my person. Another thing that honestly factors into my decision is that they are by far my cheapest guns, if I have to have one impounded as evidence, I'd prefer if it wasn't my $1,300 rig lol on another note, I carry my roasi RP639 with hard cast .357 when I'm in the woods.
I couldn't agree more all firearms are all purpose driven. While you could probably get away with using whatever it will get the job done the jobs always easier if you have the exact right tool for that specific job. But that's just one man's opinion good content bro.
Thanks man. I feel like sometimes we in the firearms community get so wrapped around the axle about what's "best" we forget to consider best for WHAT. lol I'm guilty of it myself.
I also have come back to carrying my J frame 642 . I also recently picked up a Kimber k6xs 6 shot that is a nice shooter as well . I just haven’t found a holster I like yet for it . I really like to have a semiautomatic pistol and a revolver on my person when I can . Usually a 9mm Glock . Thanks
I have always been a revolver guy and grew up with them. Working on my own property, I conceal a Colt Cobra .38 or a Ruger LCR in .327 with a laser grip. For me personally, it's all about the same reasons you stated. Sweat, dirt, saw dust, pocket lint; it builds up even if you pocket carry. The other thing is safeguarding against a ND. I've seen several videos of guys appendix carry and have a ND with a Glock, just bending over. Revolvers are the safest to carry, in my opinion because while pinched in a holsters with belt tension, the cylinder cannot turn even if the trigger has something pulling on it. Good video and very well reasoned!
Thank you, Todd! Those Colt Cobras are NICE!!!
I live in northeast Alabama, just small towns, I have a lot of pistols, Glock sig s&w, and so on, love them all, my daily carry is a Ruger LCR 327 mag, great revolver and great caliber it's all I need , never feel under gunned, it works for me. God bless!
I've gone back to carrying revolvers. You can use them from contact to distance. You can limp wrist and fire through bags or clothing. They can be used at any angle. I carry 2 and 3 if needed. I employ a NY reload and carry a couple of speed strips. The manual of arms is always the same for my primary, secondary, or BUG. Whether it's my full size service revolvers or my snubbies. Whatever I am carrying, it all uses the same ammo.
I have several configurations of what and how I carry, depending on the situation. But they are all revolvers and they all go bang the same way.
Well said.
And then I thought about how likely is it that a defense might involve up close grappling. Seemed like it might be pretty high.
Did I want to rely on a weapon which required a firm grip and care not to get put out of battery by proximity to the opponent in such a situation?
And then I considered whether I wanted to reload for flexibility and economy and whether I wanted to chase brass at my age or mess with rounds that headspace on the cartridge mouth.
Chasing brass DOES get old for sure. I like the versatility of reloading for revolvers too- no worries about whether or not the gun will cycle, so you can load all sorts of stuff
I've got 3 revolvers an H&R 32, plus an M85 by Taurus and a M19 357. The M85 with +p loads is unpleasant to shoot but, I knuckle targets at close to 15yds. The M19 though heavy at 33oz is easy to shoot and accurate if I do my part. Revolvers where the first guns i ever carried and with one or two reloads Ive never really felt under gunned. My primary reasons for a wheel gun it gose bang all the time and you couple that with good training and shot placement you'll be fine. As you said most encounters are resolved without a shot being fired. Its about your personal comfort zone in the end.