Captain America: Civil War Didn't Need Zemo

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  • čas přidán 17. 08. 2020
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Komentáře • 740

  • @thatjoshwright5577
    @thatjoshwright5577 Před 3 lety +1

    I don’t know if “I don’t care what you did in the past under mind control, what you did in the present led to my friend getting paralyzed” rolls off the tongue as good as “I don’t care, he killed my mom” lol

  • @loftboyyy
    @loftboyyy Před 3 lety +232

    you completely ignore the fact that Zemo is thematically and literally connected with the Sokovia accords. the avengers caused the death of his family. Zemo is a victim of their actions, they created him. the antagonist is kind of the victim of their wars. I think it works really well and better than your version.

  • @mr.moviemafia
    @mr.moviemafia Před 3 lety +537

    Unnecessary? Yes. But is Zemo still a sympathetic villain with human motivations, who fits into the movie thematically and narratively and (after the Accords legally divided the team), won at the end by successfully tearing apart the leaders without even touching them? Hell yes.

  • @j.6455
    @j.6455 Před 3 lety +333

    “Should they wear masks?” Yes. They should. We’re in a pandemic.

  • @ME-kd1ko
    @ME-kd1ko Před 3 lety +518

    If you're going with the "Tony wants to kill Bucky because Rhodey is paralyzed" route, you're just setting this up for a Martha, but with James instead.

  • @samwitherington8202
    @samwitherington8202 Před 3 lety +195

    I think Zemo is Lex Luthor from BvS done right. We finally get the mastermind behind the scenes manipulating both sides of the conflict, with no one realising until it's too late, sparking the divide between Tony and Steve. He is what Lex should have been. Plus, there is a complaint against Zemo that his plan is too convenient. I don't think so, as his plan technically fails and he adapts, allowing the fight to happen.

  • @captainkiwi77
    @captainkiwi77 Před 3 lety +585

    Hey... I like that you brought Sharon in for the fight, that’s like the first time I’ve seen someone go “how bout more Sharon?”

  • @huntcd2012
    @huntcd2012 Před 3 lety +303

    Zemo was like a physical representation of why The Accords were made. That being the collateral damage left in The Avengers’ wake. He was essentially their ghost haunting them for not being able to save Sokovia and instead having to blow it up. In this version of the story though, while The Accords fit more into the narrative, but I feel like you lose the bystander element in it.

  • @newalighieri3421
    @newalighieri3421 Před 3 lety +20

    There remains something unresolved here - T’Challa doesn’t forgive Bucky, so him and steve do not have a positive relationship going into infinity war.

  • @evanbarkie8163
    @evanbarkie8163 Před 3 lety +4

    I like this but one big problem I have with it is that Black Panther is far less interesting in this version because he doesn't get an arc. At the end of the original Black Panther chooses to give up on revenge and saves Zemo because realizes he has become like Zemo. In this rewrite, you lose all of that. Even if Black Panther got an arc where he forgives Bucky it would still be less interesting than what we originally got.

  • @hntrl8880
    @hntrl8880 Před 3 lety +314

    To me, the problem with Civil War was that it didn't show the public opinions and reaction to the Avengers damages

  • @nealkriesterer
    @nealkriesterer Před 3 lety +559

    * Remove HYDRA from The Winter Soldier.

  • @grahpayy
    @grahpayy Před 3 lety +425

    Nando might’ve just unknowingly killed N-Sync with the Death Note

  • @moviefan700
    @moviefan700 Před 3 lety +792

    Zemo was needed to show how forgiving Black Panther is. He understood Zemo's reason for revenge. This carries on to the Black Panther movie where we see T'Challa empathizing with Killmonger just like he did with Zemo. Both times kinda betraying his father's legacy.

  • @gremlinshipperontheloose2488

    Sokovia Accords:

  • @mariapazgonzalezlesme
    @mariapazgonzalezlesme Před 3 lety +313

    On my opinion, Zemo was merely a drop that made the glass water break.

  • @barry7136
    @barry7136 Před 3 lety +95

    I like a lot of this - but my favorite moment of the film was T'Challa and Zemo having that talk at the end. "I'm done letting it consume me" is T'Challa's best character moment and I don't know if his inclusion in the film feels as central to the story without it. It would sort of feel like Hawkeye's introduction in Thor as opposed to his super interesting arc in the film. Also how does he end up with Bucky at the end of the film/during infinity war?

  • @Chungleplums
    @Chungleplums Před 3 lety +97

    If nando fixed the phantom menace he would be like "no, we needed to focus MORE on the taxation of trade routes"

  • @hashbrown9541
    @hashbrown9541 Před 3 lety +134

    "joey, jc, lance, chris, justin"

  • @elephantpowerproductions
    @elephantpowerproductions Před 3 lety +82

    (Keep in mind, I love NvM)