BEST GRAN TURISMO SETUP? - Fanatec GT DD Extreme Review
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The Fanatec Gran Turismo® DD Extreme is a PlayStation and PC-compatible wheel and base combo that includes the extremely capable Fanatec ClubSport DD+ 15Nm Direct Drive wheel base with a new Gran Turismo wheel. This 300mm round wheel, designed in conjunction with Polyphony Digital (makers of Gran Turismo), has some exciting upgrades over the GT DD Pro steering wheel which make it worthy of a place on the DD+ wheel base. Not only does this wheel have an array of features designed specifically for seamless integration with Gran Turismo, but it is an extremely versatile wheel that will work very well for a range of driving styles from F1 to GT, drift and rally.
We took a detailed look at this new wheel and base combo to see who the Gran Turismo® DD Extreme is best suited to, and whether or not this could be the best Direct Drive setup for Playstation and PC Sim Racers.
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TIME STAMPS:
Intro: 0:00
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Pricing: 4:28
Wheel Features: 5:09
Build Quality: 12:18
Software Overview: 18:18
Driving Test and Conclusions: 28:47
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Big props for prefacing the review with all the Fanatec "drama" instead of leaving that til the end. Respect!
Thanks. I’m glad at least one person noticed.
@@boostedmediathe majority love your content and commitment. The silent majority problem. You've been so helpful and passionate Will - thank you
@@boostedmedia I think you're showing utmost professional integrity, as well as respect for your viewers (who are Fanatec's current/potential customers after all), which I know must be a huge challenge while doing sponsored/brand-things-provided content.
Haven't seen anyone disagreeing with that, if they are they must be at the absolute bottom of the comments section
@@boostedmediatbh I PERSONALLY feel this channel should have made a video address the Fanatec Customer Issues. Being that the channel had no videos addressing it does stand out to me.. I love the channel but I see that you guys are kind one sided leaning more toward promoting and marketing Items.. as well as the how to videos which have helped me alot..
In my personal opinion, I Was surprised by the silence on the Fanatec Drama here on the channel
@@Bornindafire I considered this a lot and have discussed my reasoning a few times now on Twitter, but happy to respond here too.
In fact I scripted out many videos and written statements, but every time I had to ask myself the question "what am I actually achieving by doing this?".
In every case I felt that all I would achieve was essentially fuelling drama, which had the very real possibility of causing even more people to email Fanatec to see if their order was impacted. Let's face it, even though it clearly doesn't describe you, many people watch the first 30 seconds of a video and then click off before actually digesting the information in its entirity.
Given their customer support was already way behind, I didn't want to do anything that was likely to cause even longer delays for people trying to get support, remembering this impacts everyone trying to get support, from waiting first time buyers to people qith broken equipment waiting for repair or warranty claims. I also didn't want to be seen by the community as "creating drama for views", so this was an important consideration also.
So instead I decided to use my time by directly trying to help people in the community by answering questions, whilst also applying pressure directly to my senior contacts at Fanatec. I figured this was the most valuable use of my influence. I also made the decision that while this remains an issue, I would include a segment at the start of every relevant review video stating the current state of any issues that may impact people if they were to purchase the product I'm reviewing.
Would I have done things differently from the outset if I'd know the issues would drag on this long, possibly.
I'm not sure if you've seen, but I am also in the process of organising a meeting with senior Fanatec staff (and hopefully Thomas the CEO) to try and get some clearer answers to the questions the community have been asking directly.
I appreciate that some people may perceive my not making a dedicated video as "not doing anything", but I assure you have have spent hundreds of hours doing what I believe will have the most positive impact for the community overall.
You're of course free to disagree with my decisions.
I ordered a deal on Black Friday, which I was over charged and was delivered with bits missing. £1200 in total. I've been competely ignored by customer service for refunds, replacements for over 2 months now. Given the choice again, I'd never spend a single penny with Fanatec again. I have a wheel base and pedals, but no wheel.
i had a load cell go bad on me, wrote emails with them and had to provide video of what was wrong after they got the video proving the fault they stopped answering me all toghether, i just bought the logitech pro wheel and pedals, i will never buy fanatec again no matter how good the product is
Fanatec should start looking to sell the company while they are still worth something
I bought the r300 wheel with podiumhub, Podium shifters and buttonmodule for €700 but its not recognized by my DD1 Podium F1 base.. F1 wheel works fine and BMW gtr2 v2 also works fine. After 5 emails and 3 months later they have respond with an pre written email with possible solutions. I found that same email the 1st day i got the wheel. Now it still doesn't work and now i have to make a video for them. Alot of people had the same issue with the podiumhub and DD1 F1 and they all had to sent their DD1 base back multiple times and after months the finally replace the base. But im not gonna send my DD1 to a company that don't even answer in 3 months. There is 1 youtuber that has been sending it multiple times it took like 5 months and the worse thing is after he made video's about etc and started to complain about Fanatec they said send it again in a personal email and they fixed it and delivered it in 3 days back to him. I hate this shit i just upgraded everything from Thrustmaster to Fanatec. I got the DD1 with F1 wheel,R300 wheel not working,BMW wheel,V3 pedals and the shifter and the r300 wheel was the last item i was saving money for and this happend..
@@u982245I had the same issue with them. I went and bought Logitech Pro pedals and I’m so happy with them. I can’t believe Fanatec treats people like this. Never again. I’m done.
Charge back through your credit card. That should get their attention.
I’ll add a bit of balance, I entered Fabatec ecosystem a year ago with the GT DD Pro. I also purchased a McLaren wheel and bought some Black Friday deals (Xbox club sport hub V2, V3 pedals and the new Sparco rally wheel).
Each and every order came quickly and efficiently. I had a minor problem with my GT DD Pro wheel and they fixed it really quickly and easily.
I know many are having lots of issues but equally there are some out there who have nothing to complain about. I really hope they fix their issues, they have some great products.
As ever, humans will always spend more energy and effort to complain, rather than praise, so it always feels skewed negatively.
Thanks for the review. May upgrade to the extreme when funds allow.
Fair play to you mate, outlined the risks perfectly. Weeks for customer support is a bit generous, its months ( or never) for a response.
Make that indeed 2,5+ months already. At least initially I got a reply back around Nov 2023
Here because of your post on YT. Wanted to say I appreciate your review and honesty with all your posts across all media. Thank you Will :)
Bravo for your transparency Will.
That wheel has a lot of noticeable flex!!! 15:54
Buy Simagic Alpha for £850 and wheels are amazingly top quality like GTS rim and the new Neo rim 😘
$1300 and still only a qr2 lite.
That says it all.
It's even better when you get the qr2 lite and it has more play and flex than the qr1.
@@rekt4guud134 That's simply a lie. qr2 lite is infinitely more stable than qr1
My QR1 lite has literally zero play.
Not sure if there's a difference for some of them. But mine is tight as even sliding on and off the base
@@GregoryShtevensh Well you'd be the only one not having any play with the qr1
@omarsheriff51 yeah maybe... but it's solid for me, so won't fix what ain't broke just yet
As of Feb 9 2024, I still haven't received my Black Friday order from late November 2023! Everything I ordered was shown as in-stock at the time of order. Buyer beware!
I cancelled my dd1 order and went with simagic. Couldn't be happier.
I ordered 14th November and havent recieved a thing. Got a refund from my bank and got a Moza setup instead
@@mobilePCreviews I can't cancel mine, it's already moved to warehouse (moved weeks ago). i don't expect to receive the items for a while. What a lousy customer experience.
@@tetley3737 if you used paypal you can get your money back, thats what I did, these crooks should be shut down
Thanks again Will! You just saved me 300$ lol answered all the questions I had about the bundled wheel great video as always!
Thanks for the thorough look ✌🏽
First off: Absolute hats off to Boosted Media for highlighting the shipping issues first, class act as always, not hiding any issues.
Having said that: I had to charge back my order from 16 of Nov 2023 because it got memoryholed by them apparently, ZERO news or response from customer support till I chargebacked a few days ago and ZERO feedback from support, but they somehow can still release new products?
They should worry about sorting out their logistics pipeline rather than keep shitting out new things to get lost in transit/warehouse.
Best review, honest. The QR2 lite does not make sense and this review was the only one to identify it. Great job! Any clipping?
A little cheap of them not to ship it with the QR2 standard. 15mm base? Needs a proper QR. Unless they're trying to save money
i wish they would sell that wheel seperate would be a nice upgrade for my gt dd pro
They probably will once the first wave of these sells out. Watch for it.
@@kylerobinson6102 I actually expect them not to, they never did with the first GT wheel. Although some people sold them "new" because they bought the set and didn't want the wheel.
These guys sure do announce a lot of products pretty frequently while not being able to fulfil the orders they already have for existing products. Shows where their concern is.
I think one should just get what they are comfortable with and not try to keep up with all their offerings. I got the DD Pro when it was released. then got the Clubsport RS wheel because the DD Pro wheel I found to be too small and just go the V2 pedals on the Black Friday sale. So stick to a simple setup and not try to follow everything they have going for them. I even got the boost kit and still can’t drive above 5NM. 😅😅
That's all modern companies know how to do
@@FormulaProgsadly it is. Although just because it’s normal I don’t think it should be the expectation.
Hmm I don't my Moza R12 at 60- 70% most of the time that's be 6-8 Nm and I love it depending on the sim though it'll rip your arms off lol 100% 12 Nm is absolutely Nuts but letting it go full force in certain situations keeps it very realistic like in a full on crash where it'll peak
Why cant you go more than 5 nm? Also what do you think of it and the V2s? Ive got the t500 at the moment and i just ordered the same setup yesterday 8 hours before they released the extreme haha. fml@@RTR_RRoomes73
So far, I really appreciated your review over the others I have seen. You are definitely not paid to hype this Fanatec product to get potential customers falsely over excited to hurry up and order. Thanks for your thorough and honest reviews!
Nice in-depth review! I ordered the GT DD X yesterday, and the QR2 Wheel-side just now. 😅 Yeah I saw it flexing.
The continued existence of a "Lite" version of their quick releases proves how greedy Fanatec is.
You just don't like it. Doesn't make it bad.
Yeah, just make all of them the most expensive version and make customers pay more money for the more expensive option. That would definitely be the less greedy option...my god dude.
@@ericmcmanus5179 purposely making a shitty option and forcing customers to buy it is not an admirable business tactic that makes it look like the company is giving you options. Yeah, Fanatec should make only the expensive option available, so we don't have to buy the crappy lite version.
@@kaceydm like it? It's an obviously inferior option that Fanatec creates to induce more sales. A quick release is a quick release. It should be designed solidly from the beginning. It's just another German tactic of engineered obsolescence.
1300 euro and it has the plastic QR2. Fanatec are really starting to irritate at every turn these days.
They love trolling. They claim the plastic qr works for 15nm but the original plastic qr2 only holds 8? Are they different or what? Lol they are trolls
@@erikgonzalez2486the only problem for me is that they allow 15 nm on the plastic qr. Regarding pricing it is completely fine if you do the math. The base makes the majority of the price. Saying 1.300 € is too high for this package is simply out of context.
" Fanatec are starting to irritate "
Bruh have you seriously been meatriding Fanatec for 10 years and then complain about the very stuff they done that entire time? 😂
@@limpetarch98k Bruh? Are you 12?
@@Daz555Daz don't worry, apparently anyone who doesn't blindly hate Fanatec for anything they do is a dick rider. At least that's what I've gotten from people.
But yeah, 1300 bucks and still only with the plastic QR2 that's really shameful.
So, the QR2 lite doesn’t sell as they hoped (and the other ones aren’t available) and now they are mounting this on a 300+ wheel in a 1300 bundle and saying it is stronger …..
Thanks for the review, As a noobie in sim-racing, i had quite a search,.And finally I orderd the GT Extreme with pedals sets. No delay email. So let's see you again in 6 Months :D
Hi Will, thanks for your video. Great work as always. Can you share your settings for GT7?
I'm really glad I got the original csl dd with the boost kit. I'm definitely gonna get this new evolution, but I'm gonna wait another year or 2 for the supply issues to be resolved. For any bug to be resolved. For updates to come. And for that full force thing to be integrated. Once all that stuff happens, I'm definitely getting it. In the mean time I still have a very good system to race with.
Litterally just ordered one after watching your video (with your commission link OFC) so lets see how it goes. Im also in Australia just based in Brisbane 😊. Awesome Video!!
Thanks for the support. Definitely let us know how the process goes!
@@boostedmedia 100% will do
Upgraded from the DD Pro 8nm base to the Clubsport DD Plus, as I am on Ps5. Was a bit afraid when updating the software, but it worked without issue (455). Looking forward what Full Force brings..I hope to see it on ACC!
It's awesome, Wil, that you referred to your personal requests for an interview with Fanatec. I find it interesting that Kireth was granted an interview before you, especially as he has no affilitate links and does not benefit from any commercial arrangement with them.That aside, your channel is probably the most respected for reviews. Well done.
Regarding the wheel and base, I am quite impressed, but won't be buying one. It's just too expensive. My first direct drive was a DD Pro, and by and large its been great. I had some issues with it (bricked LC pedal on delivery) that took weeks to resolve, before the really bad issues with Fanatec customer service first appeared. That experience has really put me off Fanatec. Great products, iffy quality and poor after-sales.
I bought a Logitech G Pro as insurance for when the inevitable second failure would occur. The DD Pro is on my second rig, and gets occasional use. The Logitech is way superior in my view, due to the adjustablilty of the pedals, and correct implentation of Trueforce. I agree with your feelings about it's incredible feeling in GT7.
If Fanatec can prove to us all that they truly respect their customers and want to improve their aftersales especially, I might be interested down the track. But for now, especially after watching the Kireth interview, I'm highly sceptical.
Great review, Wil.
Good review Boosted Media. I have nothing bad to say about your video on this. Hopefully Fanatec can fix their issues and get the detraction to calm down.
Thanks.
Nice review!
Something that would be very interesting for some of us would be if you could make a video setting the DD for drifting, I've seen with other bases like simagic or moza that they are easier to set for drift, because with them you can adjust the wheel speed without affecting the force, in fanatec as far as I know the speed changes with the force, so I could not set the base to be fast enought but not to stiff for drift. would be nice if you make a video talking about that.
thank you very much, we apreciate a lot all you do
Great review as always! It would be interesting to see a comparison between the QR2 and QR2 Lite on the GT wheel. And see what difference it makes. If the wheel itself is not that sturdy or it's because of the QR2 Lite. And also how the ffb would differ if at all. And answer the question if it would be worth upgrading it to a QR2, on that GT wheel specificly.
fantastic review as usual 👍👍👍
Imagine if you were those on Black Friday had pûrchase a system that has never arrive to this date and see this video telling them that what they've ordered will now be replace for some new gen stuff.... hummmmm..... Just imagine those peoples .... heheh
People is me, my packages will come soon and I’m thinking about switching to the extreme version
@@PlugNicoYou know there is nothing wrong about going with Simagic?
In fact I regularly see former fanatec owners going to Simagic exclusively based on their experience.
And me: I ordered the CS Formula V2.5x on Black Friday. Order got delayed, so I cancelled and received a discount voucher. Used the voucher to order DD+ with another wheel. Now I have cancelled that order: gone is the discount :-). I think my patience is an even bigger problem, than Fanatec's issues, though.
(BTW: I spend 95% of my racing on GT7. So no other brands for me. I am really happy with Fanatec and I will remain loyal to them)
Buy Simagic Alpha for £850 and wheels are amazingly top quality like GTS rim and the new Neo rim 😘
Doesn't work on PS5. That's what this whole bs is all about.
Honestly seeing this i really wonder why you cant just get the 15nm on the qr2 lite, this just seems like fanatec really thinks their customers are all idiots, oh no you cant use high torque mode with the qr2 lite unless you buy the super special dd extreme wheel and only then it wont break
Fanatec has minimal shipping issues in australia, I ordered a wheel, QR2 and handbrake on monday, it was delivered thursday
Well done mate... good you highlight the fanatec issues from the top. Many people like me watch your review before buy any sim product so is good you awere the current risks of buy a fanatec product. Cheers from argentina
Generally if CS response times are bad it is attributed to either not enough CS personal or an excess number of issues with the products they are selling requiring CS repair/replacement or a combination of the two.
Either way Fanatec is currently or will continue to lose customers as their reputation plummets if these issues are not resolved.
It is a lot harder to repair a damaged reputation than it is to initially build and maintain that reputation going forward.
And here I am, I was about to hit buy for the dd pro bundle but f that! I’m glad I stuck around to see review around support etc. It seems to me this company fanatec are not that serious.
I thought you were going to do a complete Fanatec DD+ Review. I figured you were holding it back because of the shipping delay with the DD+ and would release it when they started shipping. Its kind of frustrating even more now that Fanatec has this go live 2 days after I can no longer cancel my initial DD+ order and get this extreme bundle. I still might order one anyway.
I got into the Fanatec ecosystem 2 years ago. Took me like a year to modified my Playseat Evolution so I could mount Fanatec wheels, pedals and manual shifter. I was so happy and now I have 7 steering wheels. I gotta say 320mm feels best for me. I wish the rim was bigger. We need a good GT rim around 320mm that looks like a regular sport car.
Question for you, I recently received my GT Extreme bundle and I am coming from the PS pro bundle. I have updated all the drivers base wheel hub and I can no longer manually shift correctly. The throttle freaks out, shifts are recognized, but it’s undrivable. Have you experienced this? Have you tried shifting manually with the fanatec shifter? I had no problems at all with the 8 nm motor base. I believe it might have something to do with the new wheel. I would really appreciate your input. Love your reviews. Keep up the great work. Playing GT7 on PlayStation
@boostedmedia how would you compare the DD+ to the Simucube 2 Sport. Is the slew rate that different? Biggest complaint with the Simucube 2 is audible sound from the base, does the DD/DD+ have that?
I received mine in 1.5 days, well done Fanatec...really happy
Held off ordering the DD+ base as I'd heard the rumours about a bundle that would be releasing. Placed my order for the extreme today. Think I'd be pretty pissed if I'd ordered the DD+ base on it's own back in November, had to wait months and then seen this listed. Let's be honest the vast majority of those ordering the DD+ must have been doing it for PS5 / GT7 support. Least Fanatec could do is an upgrade option for the DD+ users to get a GT7 wheel. I'm pleased it's a round rim, I have a F1 2023 and the Mclaren but was going to get a round rim for WRC now I don't need to. Seems delivery issues are improving, ordered and got confirmation that UPS have received the package within 24 hours.
I ordered a DD+ with a different wheel last week, and I'm pretty disappointed by their communication on this. My order is still processing so I could cancel, but I'm afraid that by the time it's cancelled and they refunded the money, the bundle is sold out again or takes months to ship.
@@LeonardPospichalwhich wheel did you get
@@LeonardPospichal if its still processing then cancelling and getting this wont change ur delivery time much. It looks like they have fixed there delivery issues and people are getting there orders quickly now.
$1300 and qr2 lite is unacceptable, I would actually probably buy this if it wasn't for that. A big miss on fanatec's part. The flex you show in the video is awful.
Honestly the majority of the perceivable flex is coming from the rim itself rather than the QR. I'm not sure it would be a whole lot better even with a QR2 Standard. Might be something worth testing in a Short video.
What I want to know is why is the QR2 Lite OK for this wheel at 15NM, but not for any other wheel?
@@boostedmediaexactly my point either they are trolling or just spending money on a stronger plastic qr2 instead of adding a metal qr2 which would be pointless either way lol
disagree hard. look at the price breakdown, the dd+ is $1000, the qr2 light is 100.00 that leaves 200.00 for a wheel rim that is specifically designed for GT7 players. that wheel is worth 200.00 retail all day long. the functionality in GT7 alone, especially for convenience, puts it at an easy 200.00 in value on its own. now we arrive at 1300.00. hmmm imagine that.
@@Frankenslide No, QR2 ligt is 59,95 and the QR2 is 99,95. The lite version shouldn't be on that wheelbase in the first place. You think they couldn't have offered the bundle with the QR2 for the same money? I don't think that the wheel is even worth $200.
@@mementomori4972 the thing is, as I said most of the perceivable flex is coming from the wheel itself and not the QR. So upgrading it to the standard or pro QR doesn’t actually significantly improve the experience.
Dear boosted media, have you or can you test it on a dd1 base? Console version preferred. Thanks love the reviews, and dream of your sim setup.
I think I would order this bundle at some point but I don't like the QR2 light though. I think I'll stick to my GT DD Pro for now. Maybe this bundle will be available with metal QR2 in the future.
It's nice and all. I have the first version of it, but since I bought the Formula V2.5, I've never used it again. I'm looking forward to a nice upgrade of Formular wheel, with a decent display, 300mm and more ergonomic.
If they make a 300mm with a 4.3 inch oled screen. I’d be ordering tomorrow
If you are on pc check out Leoxz XF1 that works with fanatec (it is only 275 mm but otherwise great wheel)
So the QR2 Lite is capable of the full 15Nm but they impose a limit on it purely to upsell the metal version. More shame on Fanatec.
They should do a iracing bundle. Can you change the quick release? I've been on a thrustmaster for 13 years I don't play grandtrismo but want a good DD that I don't want to upgrade seems like a good price
Thanks for charing. I saw you have a BMW M4 GT3 wheel too. QUESTION : Why do I have to do the mapping in GT7 in the DD Pro section when it is a Podium wheel ? Or is the base leading in this? Next problem is when I go back to the new Extreme wheel I have to remap everything to standard. Is there a solution like saving settings for a certain wheel ? Appreciate your answer.
I can understand the frustration many have with Fanatec but don't shoot the messenger, all Will does is informing people about the new bundle.
How would you compare it to Logitech G Pro for GT7? Fanatrec has a much bigger ecosystem, but comparing overall experience like responsiveness, overall driving feeling etc.
Also that QR1 adapter seems quite simple like people could easily make an adapter plate to use other qrs on the DD+
Love the content but sometimes i feel you go too easy. Hopefully you ask the tough questions when you meet with Fanatec boss. Personally as a Fanatec user for many, many years I will never spend another cent with them again.
Basic bad FANATEC experience: Black friday -> too long -> too shitty quality. My case is 17 days after (living in Czech republic 200 km away from their warehouse :D) and now my whole QR1 system slipping out of the DD GT wheelbase. Then yeah we are happy with fanatec :D
Would you recommend this over the DD pro package
Hey Will, just got this wheel and was wondering what your FFB settings are for GT7 with it.
How does the Wheel compare to the Clubsport RS wheel? I just ordered a DD+ with a Clubsport RS wheel (and QR2) and I'm considering cancelling my order and buying this bundle instead.
I think you’d be happier with the leather RS wheel. Super solid wheel, minimal in its look unless you like the look of the GT wheel and think you’d use the 10 thousand buttons and dials. I had the RS wheel on 8nm DD Pro and I think it would be awesome with the 15nm CS DD+ like driving a real car.
I felt the RS was just a little bit too solid for the 8nm DD pro, once you get to 30cm diameter wheels you loose a little bit of strength from the force feedback. I guess it would come down to price and Qr2 upgrades. Not sure but maybe a bit cheaper to get GT wheel in bundle with DD+ ?
I've haven't had any problems with fanatec orders. When I placed my order on black Friday I picked next day shipping (fed ex in US) and they shipped it out that day. My QR2 base side that was back ordered did take a few weeks longer then when they said it would be available, but I didn't hold that date as a guarantee. When I did email support about when it would become available they replied in a day or two. They're not amazon and I don't think you should have that expectation.
How does the wheel compare to Clubsport RS in terms of quality, flex and features?
Can you do a comparison review between the DD+ and DD1 for PS5 please. I don’t want to make the mistake of selling my DD1 for the DD+ if its not worth doing so. Thank you.
Will, please ask for QR2 to come standard with, at least, all Podium series stuff.
Is there a way to change to color of the 5 Way switches in GT7? PC seems to be no problem doing it but I can’t seem to figure it out for GT7.
Also, am I correct in presuming the button assignment for the 5 way switches is fixed for GT7?
I just pre ordered the CS DD+ to start sim racing on a PS5. Is it just plug and play or do i have to use fanaLab to update and customise to play sim games
Of course this comes out just a month after I bought my first SIM rig....the Fanatec GT DD Pro
I like that they’ve upgraded the GT wheel to address basically every complaint I had with the original. I’ve wanted a 300mm round wheel for a while, but I guess I’ll have to wait for one to come up secondhand… $2140 is a lot of money to upgrade for just the wheel. 8nm is enough for me.
They need to worry about filling orders and their customer support
Nah they worry too much about making that money.
They don't care. In October 2023, I purchased a CSL DD 8nm, wheel, handbrake, pedals w/ loadcell, shifter, the whole deal. It was my first purchase with Fanatec upgrading from Thrustmaster. I chose them because they were popular. I regret not getting the Simagic I was considering. They sent me defective pedals. They forced me to ship it back for RMA on my own dime. After they received my pedals, they ghosted me. I have not seen my pedals back, a refund, not any answer to my last 5 emails. It's now February 2024. I think I've been patient and reasonable enough. I will never purchase another Fanatec product again. As far as I'm concerned, they scammed me and they are a terrible company
Great video as always.
“Is it worth your money to purchase to purchase as a wheel and wheelbase or better off buying the base on it’s own”……The answer is you’re better off using your money to buy a swarm of killer bees and use them as a cardigan than buy something from Fanatec 🤷♂️
Any chance another QR2 Lite or the metal QR2 wouldnt unlock the 12nm on my regular clubsport DD? Buying the wheel from someone who wont be using it
@boostedmedia
is there a list of full force compatible games out there for console? Just curious if you have a full review with this wheel on console just like you did on logitech pro racing wheel?
Is there any podium DD coming soon, which is going to replace the DD1 and DD2?
I have PS5 and looking to get into IRacing in the future. Can this wheel be also used on a PC for sim racing?
Good to see they’ve gone with a round wheel this time.
Hi,
One issue not answered for me, can you switch the QR2 Lite to the stand metal QR2 on the GT Extreme wheel? I use a standard metal QR2 with my current GT Pro Wheel & GT Pro DD 8NM base. However, the GT Pro wheel, still only works at 8NM on my Podium DD2 even with the standard metal QR2. Everything, I have heard makes the standard QR2 $99.95 USD a no brainer to upgrade vs the QR2 Lite at $59.95. USD. I had heard that Podium DD2 won't work with QR2 Lite, that has made it a non--starter for me at this time. Don't think I am going forward with the ClubSport DD or DD+ bases in the near future. My current two wheel bases (GT Pro DD & DD2) can run everything with both updated to QR2. (My Podium DD2 was a last minute Black Friday Sale swap out of a ClubSport DD+ pre-order)
Looking forward, I wish Sony would switch to Microsoft XBox wheel based support style. Current Fanatec console support is totally backwards and confusing with wheel (XBox) & DD based (PS) support not very helpful. I would buy the Fanatec GT DD Extreme (metal QR2) as a standalone Sony PlayStation supported wheel product. I really don't understand the current console and wheel base sales marketing concept?
Thank you,
hi man, i recieved my DD Extreme in 4 days from order placed 🙂 Can i ask you do you maybe have any recommended settings for GT7, iRacing?
I have the GT DD pro my only complaint is it is too small. You were right in your other video 300mm feel better, reason why I wish I had this new steering wheel.
New to sim racing and just purchased this new extreme package. My question is will my 10yr old computer be able to run drivers and uodate everything? It runs windows 10 but USB ports are not 3.0. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Love the content and quality of your reviews
Yes it will just fine. Mine does - it's an old i7 6700k.
A LITTLE BIT OF FLEX? That thing flexes like an acrobatic athlete!
There are a lot of people now experiencing disconnects with the DD extreme wheel do you think the QR2 Lite could be the issue, especially as you noted 7 months ago 8nm was the limit but now 15nm is ! - could excessive movement be causing this ? Be great to have your thoughts, cheers.
Would you recommend this, over the Logitech Pro? It seems "True force" is similar to "Full force". I own Clubs port V3peddals, so the $1300 price is about the same as Logictech.. I only race Gt7 on Playstation.
I would stay away from fanatec. The Logitech Pro wheel is a super nice wheel and great customer service if you ever need any.
Don't buy the fanatec before FullForce is available , and watch out for that QR2 Lite Bull Sh*t, might need to pay extra to fix it...... for now Logitech is still the best for GT7 comes to build quality and trueforce
It's embarrassing that they only include a plastic quick release on a 15nm wheel.
I'd like to buy the GT DD Extreme, and also a compatible XBox wheel. Question: is the McLaren Gt3 v2 wheel with QR2 Lite wheel-side adapter compatible with the CS DD+ base (included with the GT DD Extreme)? The compatibility list for the QR2 Lite wheel-side doesn't include the CS DD+ wheel base... 🤔
Is it me or is moza giving better qualitie product at a lower price 🤔
That's what I'm starting to think too
Does the screen show any GT7 info at all? All I see is speed and gearswitch for the GT7 game... This way it looks like its more a PC wheel with a GT7 logo slapped on, since the screen and led's only seem to work with PC games...
Watch SuperGT's video. You can see what's on the display for gt7
People are receiving their new orders yet still a lot of outstanding orders from November and before. Such a shame as everyone rates the products highly. Sadly I never got to try them. I gave up after 3 months of waiting for in stock products
that's a really nice wheel...for the gt dd pro. 🤔
I ordered the Extreme package and V3 pedals today. Even paid an extra 120 for next day shipping. Lets see when I recieve the order.
That is an insane shipping charge , that aughta get their attention. Keep us posted .
Was naive to hope it would arrive this weekend? I just received an email with invoice advising the next email will ne when the items are shipped with tracking info.
@@neverluckyslots2580 Did you receive it? I don't know which currency you're talking about, but for such an amount you should expect to have next day delivery, not next day shipping. It's incredible to me that they would even have this option for ordering 2 products, like how hard is it to order pick and label a few boxes...
It's arrived today. Never received shipping info on the website or other means it just arrived.
So now with this new wheelbase it have fullforce feedback which mean vibration as well like the Logitech pro if I’m right ?
Do you recommend a hub usb to connect all stuff ?
Great stuff, Do you recommend it over logitech G pro DD wheel?
That’s a call I can’t really make until Fullforce is working. Logitech’s wheel is nicer and better quality. But they have no ecosystem 18 months after launch which is a massive detractor.
I went from a CSL DD 8NM to a Logitech G pro. There needs to be a GT/formula style wheel and a larger diameter round wheel which is possibly something that is being worked on but not disclosed by Logitech. What I can say from my experience is that the Logitech has incredible FFB. So much so that my nemesis, the Porsche 992 cup car is now my favourite in ACC.
I’m not an expert on this but honestly true force wasn’t for me at anything above 10%, but the underlying FFB is magic. You will achieve better car control. The way it communicates weight transfer as well is amazing.
Also my package from Logitech took 4 days to arrive and when I had a question, I got a reply the next day. I’d say go Logitech or if you want a more versatile ecosystem, it’s hard to look past simmagic
Fanatec continues their anti consumer tricks, forcing you to pay for PlayStation licensing if you want the stronger 15 Nm CSL DD, packaging their GT version with the cheap QR2 light, trying to cover it up by allowing 15 Nm torque using dumb justifications, while forcing old customers to buy the more expensive QR if they want the full force on the wheels they already own…
This is just product segmentation at its worst. I wish they would just have one base in each segment CSL, CS and Podium and stop the stupid 180$ power supplies, the more expensive versions bundled with PS licensing and the 3 QR variants, it’s just dumb and leaves a sour taste in the mouth of customers.
Honestly if you buy anything other than the qr2 lite your just spending money on bling the aluminum wheelside pieces will in all reality wear faster from removal and installation. The design of the product along with it being sandwiched between solid aluminum on the output shaft and a quality stiff wheel means flex will be a non issue with the qr2 lite wheelside piece.
The plastic they mold it from is probably stiffer and stronger than the average casted then machined 6061 pot aluminum that is common in this industry.
Its the same way in the rc industry, theres a whole market for shitty shiny pretty aluminum parts that are weaker and lower quality than plastic blends that people buy because they automatically think metal is stronger than plastic.
Theres a massive difference between a real quality part machined from billet 7075 using american or european stock and the 6061 stuff thats casted and then finish milled from old pop cans and third and fourth run milling slag in china. One will stretch and deform at the limit before shearing clean the other will shatter exposing the ugly pourous metal
@@Pustul 29 euro amazon psu will do just the same. Fanatec is not screwing anybody, people who buy want to be screwed over...
@@Haulinbassracing perhaps but the QR2 lite limit the torque from your wheel base…
@@s0rry_s1r that is not an officially supported use of their products so my point about Fanatec practices still stands…
I find it odd that they delayed shipment of the DD+ due to Sony approval and right when they get that approval this new wheel is released as a package. Makes me wonder if they did need the approval or they were waiting on approval for this wheel rim and wanted to hold off so people can cancel their current order and order this new package.
I think you're on to something there.
Just lies. You can't sell something and not state that while doing so / update customers about it. Don't trust a word they say. And it's not just that but if the product is broken you're not going to get it replaced nor you're going to get a cent back until you do a cc chargeback for it
What good is it if you can’t get it? Massive amount of Black Friday orders still not shipped!
Well this product is brand new and is also in stock so this shouldn’t be effected
Don't worry, people ordering the same exact shit that you ordered on Black Friday are getting their orders before you do.
Their logistics is DOGSHIT, I can't believe they're continuing to release new shit
I placed an order on Friday of last week and it arrived on Wednesday of the following week.
@@pyroblaze13 New orders are getting to people before orders at/before Black Friday. Don't ask me how this is possible.
Glad I did my research in the middle of January and saw the comments about the orders not being shipped for Black Friday yet. I went with Simagic and my order shipped and was delivered when they said it would.
i ordered this one bungle for 400€ as a beginner DD system like 2 weeks ago and it took just a few days until it arrieved. seems that they fixed their problems or i just was lucky, idk
Will, do you recommend a QR2 upgrade from QR2 lite that comes on the wheel?
This is covered in the video.
Just got that point lol, thanks
For the price point, for the price point and for the price point... You can't justify a 300€ head for just a wheel as an "entry level". What am I currently racing on then?
I just wish they'd release the gt rims standalone like they do the Playstation compatible bases the gt extreme wheel looks awesome at 300mm it's also a very versatile option and the gt pro wheel offers more buttons than some of the universal hubs
Can you use the leoxz wheel with it?
This maybe a stupid question but if I purchase a CS DD+ base and then use it with my McLaren V2 wheel with a QR2 will I still get the full 15Nm of force ?
You reviewing AVP and Quest3 someday?