I bought one of the Scag’s last fall. I love it. The Ferris and Billy Goat have a more complicated and limited airflow direction system. To me that’s just more parts to fail. I can also say after using the Scag for a full season I’m glad I went with it. The infinite adjustment side to side makes it easy to clear along buildings and fences by angling the nozzle at a 45 degree angle while driving forward. I also use enclosed trailers so being able to shut the blower off is a huge plus.
Appreciate you all taking the time to schedule a demo and to get the Scag Windstorm to us so quickly! Now that we've seen how powerful and efficient this machine can be for leaf cleanup, it's time to run some numbers. 😎
Yesssss! 😍. It may be something we add in the future. These stand on blowers are game changers! And we have a lot of big leaf cleanup jobs where they will fit right in. Thanks for watching man! 👍
THE SCAG WINDSTORM IS ABSOLUTELY THE BEST!!! BOUGHT ONE OF THE FIRST ONES THAT RIDDLE TRACTOR IN WINSTON SALEM NC SOLD. IT SAVES SO MUCH TIME, AND I HAVENT SEEN ANYTHING THAT IT WANT BLOW.
I agree! That blower is awesome! I would love to have one, but just can't justify the high price tag right now. Maybe in the future?! Thanks for taking the time to watch!
I have the 2022 pro stance I couldn’t find a scag in all of nh but a little trick for the drive handles I did it on my toro proline as well a bungee cord at the base of the handles it pulls the handles together so when you get off the machine the handle doesn’t go up and the blades don’t shut off they stay running I will soon find out what all the hype is about the scaag stance once I get the wind storm I hope it doesn’t make me hate my prostance.
Well u completely changed my mind I was supposed 2 pick up the x3000 2moro and I called up and backed out of the deal and put a deposit on the windstorm not gonna be in for a 2 weeks. Does the windstorm have a deflector in the nozzle to aim the air flow down at the ground more like the x3000?
Pretty awesome of the Scag guy to bring both units to you to test out and compare. I feel like that's a statement of how confident Scag is in their machine, although I think I could do a slightly better job pitching a sales pitch on it than he did lol. I bought one last spring, it's a game changer for sure. I think it has a few quirks, but Scag definitely has a great start on a badass blower.
Yeah, very thankful they were able to bring BOTH units out to demo. I definitely know which one works best for us and the way we are set up. That’s awesome that you were able to buy one last Spring. A big investment to make, but a whole lot more potential in the leaf cleanup game with one! Anything you would change about yours????
@@TheLawnCareLifeinMowssouri Big investment for sure, but my thought was it's probably a lifetime investment for my business and my age, and I spent ridiculous hours already with a backpack blower strapped to my back that is was pretty easily justified. 0% financing made it an easy decision too, haha. Two things I'd like to improve on my Windstorm, 1. The cable that controls the up and down on the blower nozzle is finicky. Hard to get the right tension on it that the blower doesn't overpower it and push it down. 2. I've found that the run flats on the front are prone to tear up soft terrain on tight turns. I wonder if regular pneumatic tires wouldn't do that... Other than those 2 things, it's a wicked time saver.
Thanks man. The BillyGoat definitely has the power. The power is reduced when you start switching different directions tho. But when you have that much power, you may not even notice the difference.
The Billy Goat Z3000 looked to me way more powerful blowing leaves further, they are not exactly new kids on the block when it comes to leaf blowers either. I get that the control direction right out of the trailer is not as easy to direct than the Scag, but like anything new, it may take some time to master. I was wondering on the Hurrican, if the doors are all closed & throttle down, would that make a big difference cutting down on the blower wind when taking it out of the trailer in low idle? After all, it does have an all door closed setting with the no PTO clutch design. Direct Drive does have advantages over belts, more power & no burnt or worn belts to replace. I have an older Cub Cadet snow thrower, it has the same electric control as the Scag turret, that is a lot of use & heavy wear on one particular part on that machine. I've experienced problems with my turret control and I don't move that control nearly as much as you did, when I watched the video. To me, that part or the motor control to the Scags turret would be prone to breakdowns. Just saying, cause i lived it and Cub Cadet doesn't use that design anymore, but it really looks cool when it works.
I have one like this at work and its not very powerful, the biggest problem is the lack of control of the shooter and the no brake. In the video he said that as soon as you open your hand it stops and its not true.
Yeah, I like the design of the Windstorm. It’s much more like a zero turn with the nozzle that can rotate any direction that you need. Really cool blower! Thanks for watching. 👍
have you used the ventrac turbine? we are trying to decide between the ventrac attachment and a stand on blower. curious of your thoughts? great video by the way!
At $13k I think they would pay for themselves in labor savings. Could easily replace 4 workers with backpacks. I like that Windstorm uses fuel injection - who needs carburetor issues these days?
Hey man did you ever end up getting the windstorm? If so, how does it do on the ramps of your box truck? I've never used a stand on machine on box truck ramps so I'm worried about the steep ramps compared to trailer ramps
No, I didn't end up getting the Windstorm. I think it would do ok though. It's definitely a little steep, but I haven't had any problems loading equipment up into the box truck. You could always demo one and see if it will work for you though. Wish I had better info for you, but it's something that I haven't tried.
@@TheLawnCareLifeinMowssouri all good bro, we got one and it's a little scary taking it down the ramps the first few times but I know it won't throw me forward or anything. You do have to go up the ramps backwards, if you go straight up the machine will start to lift up in the front. So you go up backwards and just have a guy push on the front of the machine and it's not an issue. Hopefully that helps someone researching the same thing I was hahah.
We have a Hurricane blower at work and it is bad@ss! You can open all 3 chutes at the same time and drive down the middle of a driveway or road and it looks like the damage path from a tornado that just went through. IMPRESSIVE!!!
my problem with billy goat is that the machines have a high center of gravity and flip really easily on you, not safe. also no gas meter. very expensive brand too and not very good.
@@TheLawnCareLifeinMowssouri the scag for sure. Lower center of gravity, more HP, EFI engine and it's a cheaper price. Billy goat's products are very outdated and need some serious upgrades.
Hi. I know you meantioned pushing the leaves with a zero turn once the pile gets to big to move with the back pack blowers. When you factor in the cost of either stand on blower and the room an extra machine takes up etc. I wonder if it’s worth it? Having a guy (or two if you can find help) blow the leaves with a back pack blower until they no longer move then pushing the pile with the mower working together can move slot of leaves in a short time The trick is to not pack them too tightly so the loader can suck them up without having to unpack the piles. Sometimes it’s quicker to tarp up the leaves and toss them on a trailer especially if they are going to freeze to your trailer cover night and they won’t come out at the dump. Frozen leaves with pull off when tied up on tarps they won’t when frozen to the trailer bed. Anyway… I’ve learned by being in this business for 25 years (I’m turning 60 this year) that whatever method that works for the situation is best. Having a scag windstorm would be awesome. I just wish it wasn’t so expensive and didn’t sit without being used for most of the season.
Call really good points. Stay tuned for future videos here because I’m about to show you a better way to move those leaves without the big price tag of the standard blower. Let me know what you think of this new piece of equipment coming to our channel. The ideal thing to do would be suck the leaves up as you were pushing them to the leaf vac. Because they are a pain to suck up once they get packed in there. So I’ll be feeding the Billygoat a little at a time this year.
Yea, that would have been sweet if I could have taken advantage of the Goatoberfest! But after trying them both out, I’m leaning the other direction. Both really nice stand on blowers though.
Totally disagree! We own the BILLY GOAT Hurricane and it outperforms hands down. Billy Goat moves more in one run than your choice. Found that ur review was overly biased. Both have PROS & CONS which were not equally expressed. Again, we own and prefer the Billy Goat hands down. BTW, we paid full price for our equipment and our review are not biased, yet owner owned 1st hand experience. You can go to the BANK with the BILLY GOAT !!!
I bought one of the Scag’s last fall. I love it. The Ferris and Billy Goat have a more complicated and limited airflow direction system. To me that’s just more parts to fail. I can also say after using the Scag for a full season I’m glad I went with it. The infinite adjustment side to side makes it easy to clear along buildings and fences by angling the nozzle at a 45 degree angle while driving forward. I also use enclosed trailers so being able to shut the blower off is a huge plus.
Great comparison. Best video I've seen on objective differences. I like how low and wide the Scag is. Seems more stable. Thank for the vid!
Thanks for watching! Glad it was helpful for you. Are you thinking about getting a stand on blower????
Thank you for taking the time to check out the Scag Windstorm! All the best!
Appreciate you all taking the time to schedule a demo and to get the Scag Windstorm to us so quickly! Now that we've seen how powerful and efficient this machine can be for leaf cleanup, it's time to run some numbers. 😎
Make a kit to mount that blower head onto a vride 2
The SCAG Windstorm is a complete animal!! If I was in the market for a stand on blower...the Windstorm would get my money! Great video Cam
Yesssss! 😍. It may be something we add in the future. These stand on blowers are game changers! And we have a lot of big leaf cleanup jobs where they will fit right in. Thanks for watching man! 👍
@@TheLawnCareLifeinMowssouri I hope you get it buddy!! Happy for ya
THE SCAG WINDSTORM IS ABSOLUTELY THE BEST!!! BOUGHT ONE OF THE FIRST ONES THAT RIDDLE TRACTOR IN WINSTON SALEM NC SOLD. IT SAVES SO MUCH TIME, AND I HAVENT SEEN ANYTHING THAT IT WANT BLOW.
I agree! That blower is awesome! I would love to have one, but just can't justify the high price tag right now. Maybe in the future?! Thanks for taking the time to watch!
I have the 2022 pro stance I couldn’t find a scag in all of nh but a little trick for the drive handles I did it on my toro proline as well a bungee cord at the base of the handles it pulls the handles together so when you get off the machine the handle doesn’t go up and the blades don’t shut off they stay running I will soon find out what all the hype is about the scaag stance once I get the wind storm I hope it doesn’t make me hate my prostance.
Well u completely changed my mind I was supposed 2 pick up the x3000 2moro and I called up and backed out of the deal and put a deposit on the windstorm not gonna be in for a 2 weeks. Does the windstorm have a deflector in the nozzle to aim the air flow down at the ground more like the x3000?
Pretty awesome of the Scag guy to bring both units to you to test out and compare. I feel like that's a statement of how confident Scag is in their machine, although I think I could do a slightly better job pitching a sales pitch on it than he did lol. I bought one last spring, it's a game changer for sure. I think it has a few quirks, but Scag definitely has a great start on a badass blower.
Yeah, very thankful they were able to bring BOTH units out to demo. I definitely know which one works best for us and the way we are set up. That’s awesome that you were able to buy one last Spring. A big investment to make, but a whole lot more potential in the leaf cleanup game with one! Anything you would change about yours????
@@TheLawnCareLifeinMowssouri Big investment for sure, but my thought was it's probably a lifetime investment for my business and my age, and I spent ridiculous hours already with a backpack blower strapped to my back that is was pretty easily justified. 0% financing made it an easy decision too, haha. Two things I'd like to improve on my Windstorm, 1. The cable that controls the up and down on the blower nozzle is finicky. Hard to get the right tension on it that the blower doesn't overpower it and push it down. 2. I've found that the run flats on the front are prone to tear up soft terrain on tight turns. I wonder if regular pneumatic tires wouldn't do that... Other than those 2 things, it's a wicked time saver.
Great video I like the billy goat better because it blows faster than the scag but still like the scag
Thanks man. The BillyGoat definitely has the power. The power is reduced when you start switching different directions tho. But when you have that much power, you may not even notice the difference.
The Billy Goat Z3000 looked to me way more powerful blowing leaves further, they are not exactly new kids on the block when it comes to leaf blowers either. I get that the control direction right out of the trailer is not as easy to direct than the Scag, but like anything new, it may take some time to master. I was wondering on the Hurrican, if the doors are all closed & throttle down, would that make a big difference cutting down on the blower wind when taking it out of the trailer in low idle? After all, it does have an all door closed setting with the no PTO clutch design. Direct Drive does have advantages over belts, more power & no burnt or worn belts to replace. I have an older Cub Cadet snow thrower, it has the same electric control as the Scag turret, that is a lot of use & heavy wear on one particular part on that machine. I've experienced problems with my turret control and I don't move that control nearly as much as you did, when I watched the video. To me, that part or the motor control to the Scags turret would be prone to breakdowns. Just saying, cause i lived it and Cub Cadet doesn't use that design anymore, but it really looks cool when it works.
I have one like this at work and its not very powerful, the biggest problem is the lack of control of the shooter and the no brake. In the video he said that as soon as you open your hand it stops and its not true.
They seem about even in the blowing area, but the windstorm has the versatility of rotating at will in front.
Yeah, I like the design of the Windstorm. It’s much more like a zero turn with the nozzle that can rotate any direction that you need. Really cool blower! Thanks for watching. 👍
Those are both great units. I'd live to get my hands on one, but at the same time...I don't have a use right now for something that big lol
Haha I hear ya. We would benefit greatly having either one in the mix here in Mowssouri! Sooooo many leaves!
i have a little lawn mower shop that has this scag blower,it is built solid
Yeah, I think they did a great job building this stand on blower. Just a little pricey though for ME to justify buying one.
We have a windstorm at work and we have had nothing but problems. Wish we had our hurricane back…
Oh man. That’s not any good. What issues have you had with it?
have you used the ventrac turbine? we are trying to decide between the ventrac attachment and a stand on blower. curious of your thoughts? great video by the way!
I have not used it. Did you end up getting either one?
Have you tried the Ferris stand on blower? Just wondering how it compares?
Ohhhh yeah. It’s the same thing as the BillyGoat stand on blower. They were bought out in 2019 I believe.
Buy the JRCO leaf plow. it moves heavy piles and increases productivity like crazy.
We had the JRCO plow on our Toro mowers for over 12 years, but I never did like them. I ended up getting rid of it this year.
These look like great machines! I’d like to see them compared to the Ventrac turbine blower!
Oh yeah. Check out today's video when you get a chance...
At $13k I think they would pay for themselves in labor savings. Could easily replace 4 workers with backpacks. I like that Windstorm uses fuel injection - who needs carburetor issues these days?
Yeah, I agree! Speed things up and make more money at the end of the day.
Hey man did you ever end up getting the windstorm? If so, how does it do on the ramps of your box truck? I've never used a stand on machine on box truck ramps so I'm worried about the steep ramps compared to trailer ramps
No, I didn't end up getting the Windstorm. I think it would do ok though. It's definitely a little steep, but I haven't had any problems loading equipment up into the box truck. You could always demo one and see if it will work for you though. Wish I had better info for you, but it's something that I haven't tried.
@@TheLawnCareLifeinMowssouri all good bro, we got one and it's a little scary taking it down the ramps the first few times but I know it won't throw me forward or anything. You do have to go up the ramps backwards, if you go straight up the machine will start to lift up in the front. So you go up backwards and just have a guy push on the front of the machine and it's not an issue.
Hopefully that helps someone researching the same thing I was hahah.
I like the gentle giant look of the SCAG, but the Billy Goat easily moved the logs. Do you know if the SCAG can do the same?
I haven't seen anything that the SCAG will not blow. Good thing about the Scag it has the PTO switch vs running all the time. I'M SCAG FOR LIFE!!!
i like both of them
Ohhhhhhh yeah! Plenty of power 💪
I work at milsco in Read granite where we make the seats to scags
No way, that's too cool! Thanks for sharing.
What are the list prices for the two machines?
Probably around $15k now...
Scag Windstorm would be my pick 😎
Definitely would be able to get those leaves piled up in no time!
I think the Scag won this one. Also, what is the name of your safety glasses?
Oh yeah. Scag did a great job! The safety glasses are actually motorcycle riding glasses. I think those were WindRiders.
@@TheLawnCareLifeinMowssouri Ok thanks.
No problem
We have a Hurricane blower at work and it is bad@ss! You can open all 3 chutes at the same time and drive down the middle of a driveway or road and it looks like the damage path from a tornado that just went through. IMPRESSIVE!!!
You still like the Hurricane blower? Which one would you recommend ?
my problem with billy goat is that the machines have a high center of gravity and flip really easily on you, not safe. also no gas meter. very expensive brand too and not very good.
Ok, thanks for the feedback. Which one would you prefer?
@@TheLawnCareLifeinMowssouri the scag for sure. Lower center of gravity, more HP, EFI engine and it's a cheaper price. Billy goat's products are very outdated and need some serious upgrades.
Mostly depends on the person operating the equipment and knowing what it can do and not do 😅
Each definitely has their limitations on what they can do. Thanks for watching
Hi. I know you meantioned pushing the leaves with a zero turn once the pile gets to big to move with the back pack blowers. When you factor in the cost of either stand on blower and the room an extra machine takes up etc. I wonder if it’s worth it? Having a guy (or two if you can find help) blow the leaves with a back pack blower until they no longer move then pushing the pile with the mower working together can move slot of leaves in a short time The trick is to not pack them too tightly so the loader can suck them up without having to unpack the piles. Sometimes it’s quicker to tarp up the leaves and toss them on a trailer especially if they are going to freeze to your trailer cover night and they won’t come out at the dump. Frozen leaves with pull off when tied up on tarps they won’t when frozen to the trailer bed. Anyway… I’ve learned by being in this business for 25 years (I’m turning 60 this year) that whatever method that works for the situation is best. Having a scag windstorm would be awesome. I just wish it wasn’t so expensive and didn’t sit without being used for most of the season.
Call really good points. Stay tuned for future videos here because I’m about to show you a better way to move those leaves without the big price tag of the standard blower. Let me know what you think of this new piece of equipment coming to our channel. The ideal thing to do would be suck the leaves up as you were pushing them to the leaf vac. Because they are a pain to suck up once they get packed in there. So I’ll be feeding the Billygoat a little at a time this year.
how much? $ each one?
Like $11k-$12k 😳
thanks alot
Billy Goat had a 10% deal with debris loader + hurricane blower, windstorm looks like it has more and better features though
Yea, that would have been sweet if I could have taken advantage of the Goatoberfest! But after trying them both out, I’m leaning the other direction. Both really nice stand on blowers though.
Ventrac
😍 You don’t even know how many times I’ve thought that! Thanks for watching man.
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You’re the man! 💯
Totally disagree! We own the BILLY GOAT Hurricane and it outperforms hands down. Billy Goat moves more in one run than your choice. Found that ur review was overly biased. Both have PROS & CONS which were not equally expressed. Again, we own and prefer the Billy Goat hands down. BTW, we paid full price for our equipment and our review are not biased, yet owner owned 1st hand experience. You can go to the BANK with the BILLY GOAT !!!
scag rules
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