Penelope Jackson - The Murder of David Jackson
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Penelope Jackson was married to David Jackson for 24 years then on the evening of 13th February 2021 something happened that would change their lives forever. After researching this case I take a deeper look into what really happened and why Penelope became one of the most known faces in the media over night.
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@emma I experienced abuse from my ex that shocked everyone once I finally said no and left with my children, and no one believed me except the people who finally saw it a year into our divorce. I managed to escape after 15 years. Just because no one sees it, doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. No one teaches us abuse goes beyond physical abuse so many of us have gotten stuck in and unable to leave and then no one believes you.
I don't care what his friends and family have to say - anyone who holds a knife to their partner's throat (or anyone's for that matter) is NOT a good or kind individual. If he was comfortable doing that to her in front of others, I can't begin to imagine what he put her through behind closed doors.
Edit: Some of you seem to think I'm excusing her actions and saying she couldn't have been abusive either. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying he wasn't the angel people want to think he was just because he's dead.
@@paulthrutner9114 "if that ever happened" he held a knife to her throat... Also it's common for abused people to carry on dating abusive partners.
@@paulthrutner9114 How many men get away with literally beating the shit out of their partners consistently. “It’s about time…” as if this is a common issue with women when we know statistically men end up murdering their partners far more often than women do. Picking bad partners does not make you crazy it’s typically a response from trauma & abuse regarding childhood etc.
Yh but she had 4 husbands so shes also toxic to
@@_______unknown_______ Go back to bed Karen
@@paulthrutner9114 you have your own problems to take care of paul
Yes appearances are very deceiving. My Mom was verbally abusive to me just about everyday when I was growing up. I was a ballet dancer and then a dancer in a semi- professional dance company. She never once complimented me or said she was proud of me. But to her friends they said she would brag about me to them. I was surprised to hear that. She always wanted to be the center of attention. She never would teach me how to cook because that was what she was really good at. She once tried to teach me to sewn she was also really good at this. But when. I did something when she was trying to teach me to sew. She ripped it out of my hands and said you don’t know what you are doing! Of course I didn’t I never sewed before. When I had my first heartbreak I went to her crying. My mistake. She said to me without any warmth to me or comfort. Well what do you want me to do about it! So anyways behind the scenes things can be very different from what appears.
She sounds very much like.my mother. My condolences to you. Its one thing to be abused by a partner which I also have but it's entirely another when your own mother treats you as if you don't matter and that they don't love you. A mothers love is possibly the most needed of loves. It's also made worse when having a child yourself and you then understand exactly how most mothers feel toward their child and it finally clicks that your own mother doesn't feel that way about you. It's extremely painful. Much love to you ❤
Pamela, to be a ballet dancer is quite an accomplishment to conquer!! That is very difficult to master!! I am proud of you, My Dear!!! I am sorry you had this type of relationship with your mother to have to deal with. I hope you have found peace and comfort in your life. You can cook for me anytime!! Sending hugs to you from Washington State. Stay safe, my dear!!
Thank you for your kind words! I ended up taking care of my Mother when she got older. Our relationship got better. But when she moved to the same town I lived in. I became very angry inside. She would. Come to my house and try to pick fights with me like she did when I was young. I didn’t tolerate it. I ended up kicking her out of my house three times over the years. I wasn’t going to let her treat me the way she did when I was younger. I planned a trip for me and my sister and my Mom to have a girls trip to Vegas. It was going well until we had just got into our room and she heard young people being loud in the hallway. She went out into the ball and yelled at them telling them she would call the police. I told her to get back in the room and leave them alone. After that we were heading to the elevator to go get something to eat. Apparently she didn’t like me telling her to get into the room. She has a cane she walks with. I’m in a wheelchair I was in a freak accident that left me paralyzed from the chest down. She came up behind me and hit me in the back as hard as she could with her cane and her fist. I yelled at her to not hit me. The people she was yelling at earlier saw what she did. She went ahead of us and got in the elevator. It was going up so it opened to our floor and the people who she yelled at saw her acting so nice to the people in the elevator. They commented oh look how nice she is. Being sarcastic of course. Btw she was living with me at this time. I ended up getting my own room because I didn’t want to be around her after this happened. She asked my sister why I was leaving. She said because you hit her. She said oh I didn’t hit her that hard. My sister said yes you did. Her back really hurts! It hurt for a week afterwards. She ended up moving to a Senior Community soon after that. That was the last time she was abusive to me. She soon started to get dementia and I was in charge of her care. Making sure she was looked after as I was not able to take care of her. I made sure I took her somewhere every weekend to have fun at a casino or the movies or out to eat. When she couldn’t walk and needed to be in a wheelchair I still took her out. I would push her chair even though I’m in a wheelchair too. Lots. Of times people would help me get her to where we weee going. Well that’s my story. I survived it lol. Thanks again for your kind words. 😊
My dad was abusive but to the outside world, he was this great funny guy. My mom often says she surprised she didn’t kill him.
I totally see your situation - narcissistic mothers are the worst - I've been there. Everyone thought I had a caring and supportive mother, except when, in a temper with me, she hit me on the head and cut my scalp open. My grandmother was in the house and saved me. I finally cut ties with my mother in my 40s and didn't look back to my abuse.
as someone who comes from a family with 'secret' domestic abuse/ coercive control, and as someone who was abused by my mother until i moved out, im not sure i agree with the opinion that because her family say they didn't see it, it didn't happen.
i know first-hand that appearances can be deceiving. her reaction after the murder- admitting it, saying her life would be better in prison doesn't seem calculated to me- it sounds like she just snapped. she seemed pleased when she murdered him, almost as if she had done everyone else a favour.
Done herself the biggest favour.
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I come from a DV childhood and I had the same reaction to the family’s comments. I myself hid most of the abuse in my marriage from my friends and family,even my kids who were under the same roof. People don’t know we’re all wearing masks 🎭
There are people, mostly women, who are quite relieved to be sentenced to life without the possibility of parole after killing their spouses. "I'm finally free and safe now." That speaks volumes about the situation they were in. I don't know if this is one of those cases, but she clearly snapped. He had something to do about that to some extent. Even so...
AGREE
Just like every woman who get killed at the hands of a man clearly had something to do with driving them to it??
Don’t talk utter waffle, she killed her husband… of course she will claim he was evil, didn’t work though did it?
This is not the reaction of a woman who was scared for her life and snapped. Not by a long shot.
I just want to say I was in an abusive relation ship many years ago, I totally can relate to how Penelope was feeling. I’m a nurse and an ex prison officer, I’m 70 so can see what she went through, looking at the video I can see she is totally out of it. Got lots more to say but I’ll catch up with you later xxx think you are amazing and have similar thoughts that I have xx
The 'calm cool, calculated' phone call and later 'calm and uncaring' manner, were no such thing. It was the voice and manner of a woman who was completely broken. She had snapped and passed into a world of total fantasy, in which she was playing the part of someone 'cool, calm, calculated', defiant and pleased with herself and above all- IN CHARGE. She is clearly not playing with a full deck. Just my opinion, but even your description is of someone who has gone right over the edge. Even the gallows humour is a clue. That kind of humour is always a defence mechanism for something too hard to face.
Million percent agree with this. I do t think she seemed calm or uncaring at all. She seemed totally broken after years and years of abuse.
Agree*
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Agree isobel. Too many blame her.
I completely agree with this. I was in an abusive marriage, luckily only for four years. I managed to get away. I cannot imagine what she went through and how she coped for all of those years. You can’t escape them. I know the feeling of wanting to not be here anymore just so you can be away from them. She was completely broken. If this was an animal that had been abused for years on and off and then lost it and attacked their owner, we would understand. I completely agree with what you’re saying. So many don’t see it like this. She may have goaded him. But I’m guessing she had already cracked at that point and was bubbling on the edge. Contemplating her suicide and completely lost control. We can only imagine what was happening behind closed doors if he was doing things like that infront of others. She did need to serve time though because it’s wrong to murder but I think the time she was given was excessive and should have been maybe a quarter of that, in my personal opinion.
As someone who has experienced coercive control, her family and friends would not necessarily know or observe this. That can be part of it, being forced to appear as if all is great on the outside, a perfect facade. Nobody close to me knew what I was going through. She was almost pleased and proud of what she accomplished, which, if she was a victim of coercive control, makes a bit of sense? Once again, love your delivery and insight ❤️
Perfectly said Jennifer!!! Thank You for sharing this painful part of your life wih us. Sending a hug to you for when you need one from Washington State!!
@@kellyhopps4283 who needs to think before they speak? Maybe i missed something. We are all entitled to our opinion and observations and can share them easily in this atmosphere Emma provides. She encourages people to share their opinions on her discussions
@MrFangsAlot EXACTLY..... THANK YOU MY DEAR
@@kellyhopps4283 You are SEVERELY judgmental miss Kelly Hopps.
@@kellyhopps4283 and what if they live in another time zone where it was already morning?
I believe that this woman literally just switched off and acted.
@@paulthrutner9114 "if that ever happened" Apart from the fact you're just copy/pasting this same comment....What video have you been watching?
On the THREE occasions he was observed being violent, how many more times in private?
@@paulthrutner9114 are you just copying and pasting your comments?
@@paulthrutner9114 why would you even want to keep replying with the same comment? You've answered someone with you're comment, why isn't that enough? Why feel the need to keep imposing you're comment on numerous other people's comments? You're view is no more relevant than anyone elses and just copy/pasting the same thing over and over is just plain weird. If you dont have anything new to add then don't add anything else at all. No one is going to take more notice of you just because you write the same thing 50 times.
@@paulthrutner9114 whatever weirdo. Grow up.
@@paulthrutner9114 nice copy and paste pal
Without getting into it, I can actually understand her behaviour on a personal level.
Trauma response can appear incredibly odd, that's what I see and hear with Penelope.
It doesn't make what she did "right", nor "moral", however, I can understand it.
This is everything - because same here! And how she explains that he’d told her that she hadn’t even killed him properly - I totally believe that he did that!!! I actually feel sorry for her that she was pushed to her limit. Her calmness at the scene of the crime and her behaviour throughout that makes total sense to me !!! Especially the clarity with which she speaks about what she did.
It doesn’t make her actions acceptable by any means but I understand it. He broke her, he broke so badly that she stopped caring and I can see that in her eyes in the clip.
I agree ☝️
I agree
Agreed, totally
@@MadJenno yeah, it's sadly an eerily familiar response for some of us.
I was absolutely ready and willing to kill my ex one night, after he did some incredibly heinous things to me, in front of our then two year old - he actually *included* our baby in some of his acts towards me.
I remember there being an extra large BBQ fork on the kitchen bench, and at one point, I tried grabbing it to end him, but it had been sent flying somewhere in the midst of the struggle (he was beating the living f*ck out of me.)
Anywhooz, I absolutely would have killed him that night, if I'd been able to get my hands on that BBQ fork - and I can absolutely see myself reacting in much the same way as Penelope, because I was just sooooo f*cking DONE.
I felt that same disconnect that night.
As an aside, my last name is Madden, too - we're bloody everywhere, aren't we?
Haha!
Was Penelope drunk on arrest, she sounds it? I feel like this is a case of domestic violence and after all she went through she finally snapped. Must've been years of being eroded by his words and then lockdown exacerbated this. If she had been covered in bruises and blood we would be more forgiving, but control and verbal abuse is not visible.
She is completely disassociated from the seriousness of what she has done. I think the verbal and emotional abuse that they inflicted on each other must have been awful. She absolutely must have hated him.
I have grandparents just like them, only worse, my step grandfather has brainwashed my grandmother into accepting all the shit and after 30+ years if this, its concrete. My nan is very ill now
, she's had spinal operations so she cant move much around her flat and shes fully dependant on him, she also doesn't want to leave the flat as she'll lose it to him so shes trapped.
She's emulating him a lot, she has been very toxic to me and even my mum finds her a lot.
I was abused by him growing up and I've been isolated as a kid so much that I dont relate to people, its destroying all my friendships I try and try to build but as I'm insecure I feel a need to control the interests of any group of friends to feel comfortable, the autism I have doesn't help with this either.
He and my grandmother are so toxic now. I'm so angry I've never had a normal family and that I'm neutered of social skills to survive thanks to them puppeting my mother.
@@theentity5201 I am so sorry you have gone through this it's awful. Perhaps putting a healthy distance between yourself and them would be away to protect yourself and your sanity. When people are in these toxic relationships they don't care how it hurts others.
Firstly, I enjoy the humour you bring, in the right moments, which counter the respectful and serious content. It brings more light and shade, and that’s important for me personally. I find this story interesting because when I saw clips of the bodycam footage, it reminded me of people close to me… worrying.
This case is puzzling but is it possible that her behaviour after stabbing David was down to "shock"? She was cold , although it was December but feeling cold is a symptom of shock too .
I agree with you, I think she acted that way after due to shock and a kind of relief after all the build up, and then a resignation to what she'd done.
Plus people act strangely in shock, such as laughing when they should cry, etc, and that's why she's going on about the coat and getting fixated on that.
@@alli_cjg agree totally .
I don’t understand how this channel has only got 72k subscribers? IMO Emma Kenny is England’s answer to Bailey Sarian. I’m making this comment to try to slightly effect the algorithm 😁🥰🇦🇺❤️🌈
That’s very lovely of you . Em xx
Bailey started small too. Hopefully Emma will get the millions she deserves.
Don't insult Emma's intelligence with the likes of Bailey Sarian.
@@lynnv7570 Don't insult Bailey because she has a light hearted style. I agree Emma's analyses are extremely intelligent and insightful, and the comparison between them is really apples to oranges, but Bailey is fantastic too.
@@digigalbytes2445 Bailey's style has nothing to do with my point. Bailey presents false information and omits many a fact.
I have had first hand experience with mentally abused women. Dissociation is very common in many of the victims. I don't condone murder but it is very common that the abuse might have escalated after children's leaving the nest. It does not have to be very obvious for people around them but it can be very subtle in an underhanded way. A word can be said in a way only the woman or the man who is the target of abuse can understand. For example if they speak a foreign language a word of abuse can be said in a joking way or with a smile the other people wouldn't understand. Having said that I am sure Penelope has had extensive psychiatric assessment and any sign of her being a victim of coercive behaviour would have been picked for sure. Her lawyer would not miss that trick if she is her money's worth. Unless like many other services psychiatric assessment was unavailable during lockdown and it will be the base of any future appeal.
preventing situations like this from happening is best outcome for everyone involved- if only people would talk - thanks Emma and Pete 🌸
In case some non British viewers are wondering what is bubble & squeak? It's a British dish made from cooked potatoes and cabbage and fried. To me, it looks a bit like an omelette. It is delicious 😋😋
Thank you, I was wondering. In the US.
We just put what ever is left over from Sunday dinner in ours.
The 999 call and the police body cam footage are like something out of a dark comedy. I mean, it would be hilarious if it was part of a movie but the fact that it's real just blows my mind. It feels like a skit.
Nothing wrong with bubble and squeak.
She wasn’t about to let that one slide 😂
I bet he would beg to differ 🤔
@@kellyhopps4283, I don’t think we’ll hear a squeak out of him on the matter but after 18 yrs of the prison version she might tire of it .
Steak and bubble whats not to like!!
@@cherylandrews3611 , the steak maybe ?
Thank you Emma. Until tonight I thought she was a cold hearted killer. Now I'm not so sure. The incident in December where she locked him in the conservatory is concerning - seems she was genuinely in fear. Her looking up women's refuges tends to confirm that. As a past victim of DV myself I too fought back eventually but I didn't feel driven to stab him.
I'm so glad you said that.
This lady took the knife into the bedroom and placed it under her pillow before the argument that went tragically wrong.
She also had him put back into care an adopted son he and his previous wife who had died had previously adopted.
We know he's abuse was witnessed but it's not beyond the realms of possibility that she was also abusive.
@@icequeen6512she didn’t make him do anything. If the child was around before she came along, he should have prioritised the child. He made a commitment to the child, and he should have honoured that commitment. It’s as simple as that as that.
I really think that she was in shock after she stabbed him. I know what it's like to be emotionally pushed so far that you're no longer capable of having human reactions and while I've never hurt anyone I've been in situations where I didn't care what happened to someone because they did so much bad to you you're no longer able to feel for them. I don't think she understood the gravity of the situation and I am certain that she regretted killing him once it all sunk in. And I've known people who suffered domestic abuse - emotional and physical, who were actually really happy when their spouse died (of natural causes). What she did was wrong and might seem calculated but I don't see her as a cold blooded killer - only someone who is psychologically damaged by life experiences pushed to the brink so she no longer understands what's right and wrong
I agree
I agree with this too. when you snap, you really do snap. I think she lost it!! When I heard he was in the army most of his life, it triggered my experience with my military father. I know not everyone in the military, are bullies, but I have experienced an awful childhood from a military man - room inspections, beds being stripped, beatings, blamed for everything, my Mother and siblings walking on eggshells, living in fear, etc. THAT is why I have to lean towards my thoughts that she may have been pushed to the brink. I think she is saying all these things and not meaning them. When she was arrested she said 'oh good" which is obviously not good, and she knows it! She is not meaning what she is saying.
He was the nicest person to anyone outside the home, no one ever saw the monster that he was!! They would even say how lovely Mr whatshisface is!! He would go out of his way to be helpful to others!! But the neighbours at either side of our home MUST have heard the screams. Screams would be heard a few times a week, they could NOT be mistaken for anything else but children screaming from being beaten. No one ever called the police, and after hospital visits, no one came to check on us, or follow up on these injuries.
Exactly and ditto x
The seeds were sown from the time she was brought up in Foster care and her first marriage also being abusive. It was like rinse and repeat.
It’s pretty clear that she’s totally prepared to go to prison for the rest of her days, when she’s calling the emergency services. The way she so calmly talks about what she’s done, she knows she’s admitting murder right there. The way she goes “I wanted to stab him in the heart, well he hasn’t got one” wow 😲
She was just a psycho and that is it…. She was ruining people’s lives from day one and finally put the nail in her own coffin…
She was just a psycho and that is it…. She was ruining people’s lives from day one and finally put the nail in her own coffin…
@@jmacmcfc4662 says the psycho putting a knife to someones neck in front of others
Emma, Oh my goodness. Thank you for sharing the words of your fathers suicide note. So heartbreaking. Thank you for being so open about your trauma. As someone who suffers with mental illness, intrusive thoughts and suicidal ideation, your way of talking about your own past in such a straight forward and open way is so incredibly refreshing and helpful. This was the final push to make me a patreon
Oh bless, I thought our cavalier King Charles was old at 13, he snores louder than my husband but we adore him, but 18! He needs to have his 5 minutes of fame on camera !
Out of all the true crime I watch on youtube it's this one, which always manages to get me. Incredible amounts of empathy for all involved. The words 'they loved her too' brought a tear to my eye.
Fantastic as always Emma!
You’re so right about the self defence thing. I watched a video a while back-a father beat his daughters abuser to an inch of his life and he sounded more sorry on that 911 call!!
She googled about womens refuges she sent a msg to her daughter she said she was going to slit her wrists... it looks like she was leaving a trail to say OH POOR PENELOPE, but the only thing she did was kill her husband. When the police arrived she seemed quite proud. She thought she was going to get away with it. She planned it in my opinion. No sympathy for her. There was actually 8 women 4 men on the jury that speaks volumes. Can we please start to accept that some women will lie and I find that despicable! Just my opinion.
I agree with you 100%
As someone who has just exited a 24-year abusive marriage, I can understand her reaction -- I don't think I'd behave that way but all I see is a person empowered that she freed herself.
You're justifying murder. Most would walk away.
@@steffanhoffmann I’d never justify murder but I can see how these things happen in some circumstances.
@@freetobeme6013 Then we think differently
Love listening to you whilst I'm working away in the office in Melbourne, In fact its improved my productivity!!!! Love the honesty and the chat its brilliant...thanks!
I have worked with many abuse victims and from personal experience I can assure you family and friends don’t often know what’s really going on in a relationship….the abuser hides it very well in front of other people so often you find if friends and family have been asked they often reply with “I had no idea or I didn’t see the signs” I believe she was in an abusive relationship and she had simply got to a point where she had enough and couldn’t take any more and didn’t want to take anymore! The mind can only take so much and the arguments over small things were inevitably the beginning of the end! I do feel sorry for her and I believe her account of things! The press just painted her out to be a cold killer I don’t think that was the case so much more going on here! It’s hard to get away from a controlling person so hard you often have to leave your home and your life behind and some people don’t have those resources to do so! I hope she’s doing ok and getting some therapy
My father was violent, he has only 1 of his siblings left now, my Aunt, and she would never admit what he was like. You could talk about things that happened when SHE was THERE and she would just start talking about what a nice kid he was when he was young, and often very kind to her. On and on and on, with no admission at all of his violence. After my parents divorced, his new partner complained to all of us that he was beating her. Nearly all his side of the family denied it. I told her to leave.
I agree with this too.
She seemed very spaced out and not at all with it during the footage when talking quite sarcastically, she seems to be very disassociated. Not that killing it right, but there does seem to be more to this
Emma, your 18.5 year old dog has earned the right to follow you and be at your side. I think better of you just knowing that you love and nurture this dear creature after 18 years of living together! Good on you! Woof!
My first husband was a abuser when drank a lot. When I finally left him and filled for divorce when it went to court my parents were shocked to find out what really happened. I never told them. So when it came out in court they were really shook up!
You’re so captivating. You really retell the story in such a detailed and engaging way. Love your channel! X
As a women, who was strangled by my ex, in front of my kids, and stayed, I just want to say, it's not just as simple as just leaving the abuser.
That being said, I did leave after 2 years. It took me that long to be brave. Also, if I had to stab him, I don't think I could come back from that. Abuser or not still a human being.
I think her drinking problem was what sent her over the edge. I used to drink a lot and I could behave in really reprehensible ways when under the influence. I particularly recognised the half jokes she made about Covid and how he didn't have a heart to stab, as the sort of response I would make when I was in the zone. I'm sure she must have had the worst hangover imaginable when she sobered up. What a terrible situation to be in. I don't drink very much now and have the benefit of hindsight to take heed of my past behaviours. I also have ADHD, and have recently found this out in my 40's! I wonder if she had any mental health problems apart from lockdown affecting her? Thanks for a really interesting show Emma. xxx❤
I'm certain if they scanned her brain there would have been abnormalities.
Me too! diagnosed at 43, the drinking was a coping mechanism for me. i had untreated adhd. x
The same as you I have ADHD and realise that drink with that and the fact I take anti depressants following my partner's suicide I have done things, said things and put myself in situations that could be very dangerous so fully get you
A teenage boy near me had a man (schizophrenic) break in to his house and attack his mother 🔪.
The teenage boy did the same to him and ended his life to save his mum. Sadly she still passed and same as the man who broke in.
Luckily he did not go to prison as it was self defence… but he came VERY close. He was in tears the whole time. He did the right thing in the moment.
This lady lacks so much empathy or an ounce of responsibility for the seriousness of what she’s done. I agree with her going to prison. It was calculated.
*I am shocked at the amount of people on the comment’s sympathising with her. If it was the other way around NOBODY WOULD BE.
Okay, what does it say that I totally get her, she snapped and then it was over , like she's there and not there ,numb and angry, relieved and just wanting it all done
I understand her too. However, I draw the line at responsibility and accountancy for our actions. (odd she was an accountant). Instead of this keeping up with the Jones and appearances, she should have spent that money in therapy instead of destroying her family. I think 18 years is fair. 10 for killing someone. 8 for all things she said and did that prevented his life from being saved. Although I might have done that same from the abuse I suffered, I probably would have listen to the Emergency services over the phone and to be fair when I have that kind of psychotic break episode, I stop feeling cold. I stop all physical feeling all together. I sliced open my hand grabbing a broken piece of ceramic in a rage. I didn't feel or see it until everyone else around started screaming that I was bleeding. When I got to the hospital the doctor said you gave a high pain threshold while poking and prodding the gash . I said this is how I am hours after an episode, I feel numb and like everything including me isn't real.
Not a fan of all the victim blaming in this one. We have strong evidence this man was abusive, and you want to just ignore that because hypothetically people can change? And abused women should just know better and leave their abuser? Tbh, kind of shameful to say these things. I’m a little disgusted
I seriously had to stop the video to Google bubble and squeak 😂 did anyone else have this problem?😂🤣 Okay, now back to the video.🤭😉🤗😘
Me too
In Britain bubble and squeak is predominantly made with green cabbage, onion and any other left over veggies ,which make the noise of bubbling and squeaking as it's fried with a decent knob of butter and salt and pepper yummy 😋 all the way from England 🇬🇧
It’s my birthday today & I’m going to spend my evening watching your take on this one Em. I’m so looking forward to this tonight. ♥️
Happy birthday xx
Happy birthday ! When I read your name in my head the first thing I thought of was the bystander affect genovese kitty- I must have got true crime on the brain 24/7 :) hope you having a great day and get a drink of your choice and your favourite food ready to settle in at 7 :)
Happy birthday Kitty :)
happy birthday to you
⚜️💝🎉🎁🛍🍾🎂 HAPPY BIRTHDAY from 🇨🇦🎉🎂🎁💝🍾
So happy that Emma is live now. So Dependable and knowledgeable. I am listening from the beginning. Thank you 😊 Emma.
I love you having your dog in the video as when his face appears it's like a little therapy dog during the video! Please do a mini video introducing your pets! From a huge animal lover! 😂🐶🐕
Penelope is capable of a level of almost petty meanness that I can’t imagine, and I’ve been the victim of physical domestic abuse from my ex-spouse.
Her voice doesn’t reflect the adrenaline one would expect anyone to feel in this situation! Was she in the grip of insanity? Quite possibly, but this woman is frightening.
You and I have experienced living with a penelope type of person. Covert narcissists, much like dealing with the devil.
I have just got to the 999 call
I think she just snapped and couldn’t take it anymore
He pushed her to her limit.
The calmness in her voice and the way she refuses to help save his life i think she just lost the plot.
I feel for her.
I think she had just suffered so much.
@EmmaKennyTV I have watched bunch of your videos now and you have seriously jumped to my #1 true crime channel, I seriously appreciate the care and compassion for the victim's families and you and I have the same feelings on the offenders! Much love from Southeast Tennessee, USA!!!!❤
I find it weird how you find it weird Emma that the lady took a knife to bed for protection. I was beaten during a robbery and held hostage and after that I used to take a bronze axe to bed and put it under my pillow because it made me feel that if anything happened it was there to help me defend myself . if he had been a git on occasions maybe she was mentally damaged and felt the need to have something there for protection as reassurance.
Emma thinks a pallet knife or wooden spoon would be better to fend off an attacker
You can kill a man with a wooden spoon Ive heard x
@@EmmaKennyTV Thats just me. I started that rumour.
You should see what I can do with a fork. Absolute carnage.🖤
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If you ever read any books by Eric van Lustbader, you can kill someone with a piece of paper. Allegedly.
I’ve always enjoyed listening and watching you analyse things and give your opinions on many tv programmes. As a long term depression sufferer when I hear your comments and stand up to mental health issues, I feel less alienated and know it’s not my fault my head is messed up. Didn’t know you had a YT channel until now so instantly subbed.
My dad was in the Australian army for 20 years and as a child I moved every 2 years sometimes more, I loved every part of it meeting new people going to new schools, new areas it was wonderful we've been around Australia twice but my poor brother whose 16 years younger than me and very shy so he hated it and struggled terribly so how you cope really does depend on your personality
Well done for giving us such an in depth take on this story. I'm surprised that the terms shock, PTSD and trauma did not seem to come up in her defense. In listening to her interactions with emergency services it seems clear to me that she is emotionally flat and switched off. Combined with her complaints of being cold they would indicate that she is in extreme shock. It's clear she killed her husband, but premeditated murder? Not sure of that at all. More to come on this case I'm sure. Thanks Em 😊
Aunty sue?lol xx
I 100% feel for David in this crime, without going into detail, I listened to my mum abuse, physically and emotionally my dad when I was growing up. She would goad my dad and I for arguments and my dad took his own life to escape this. My dad never raised a hand to her or even raised his voice. Such a sad story and hits very close to home.
Mainey, thank you for your honesty and courage in sharing what must still be a very painful experience for you. I wish I could understand why things like this happen, but I don't, and I probably never will. Fair play to you for speaking out and redressing the balance on this thread. Being female doesn't absolve anyone of moral, social and legal responsibility. I can't believe some of the glaring double standards this thread has revealed. If Penelope Jackson had been male, I guarantee there would not have been this outpouring of sympathy.
But he was physically abusive to her with proof??
My friends mum was one of her neighbours and she was very much a abused woman 😢 it’s very sad that he lost his life and that she will probably spend the rest of hers in jail
As astounding as this case is, the thing that I will take away, is the beautiful wee beastie walking around in the background. Learning your love of animals, adds to the admiration we already have for you Em. You rock.
Agree!
Queen of CZcams crime. our Emma x
AGREE
Emma, I love your videos. Really informative and at the age of 41 they are even seriously making me consider a career change (not into the criminal underworld by the way just their minds lol). Bonus is that your humour also cracks me up! Loving your channel!
I love Emma, she goes through the same feelings we do in every cases. Sending love from the States 🩵🩷
I’ve changed my mind regarding this woman when I discovered this was her 4th husband. Her 3rd husband committed suicide when he discovered she was having an affair with soon to be husband number 4! Looking forward to your take on it Emma.
Didn’t she get her previous husband’s healthy dogs put down when he was working abroad? Read that in the papers; not sure if it’s true but horrible if it is!
@@CasbahCat Yes, I read this too. Also when her third husband committed suicide she put his son into care until family stepped in to help. She was also in financial dires and approached her deceased husbands family for money.
I think she is a self serving, self absorbed cold hearted individual although I think both of them were abusive to one another often creating a toxic environment.
@@cwells5576 I think it was a mutually abusive environment. Many people join the military because its an environment that is black and white and you don't have to deal with grey emotions. Also accountanting: you are dealing with numbers which are black and white not grey emotions. I left my marriage because I was diagnosed mentally ill and being verbally abusive and he put his hands around my neck and shoved me head first into a wall. He told the police we had a mutual fight. It was more me fight him off and fighting to get away. I also tried to outsmart him with verbal abuse because I couldn't physically him being stronger. He picked up a knife and put it back down. I never picked up a weapon during the fight/argument. The police were going to arrest us both but I had a bump on the head do I guess they made him the aggressor and put him on no contact bail. Monday he was arrested. Friday I moved into a refuge. I never saw him again face to face. It's been nearly 8 years and I've never had another relationship given my track record of crap men or me screwing it up.
An hour and a half of utter common sense and logic. Well done Emma 👏👏👏👏👏👏
I remember walking into my Living room as her arrest was being shown on the news, thinking it was a scene from a TV drama and not realising it was real life. This will be Fascinating Emma.
I put a stop to my Christmas decorating and baking for this ❤️ morbid mommy time is a must on a Sunday.
Hi Emma, do you do all your videos in one shot? Some people do a cut after every sentence and it literally does my head in, so well done you if you do x You're an amazing storyteller.
P. S. Loving the moment at 1:06:35 😂
I do them in straight shots without any jump cuts. I don’t use a script either . I have been doing it for years so that really helps (live TV etc too)
Thanks for being lovely xxx
@@EmmaKennyTV that's amazing.
You could read the phone book (if they still exist, haven't seen one in ages 😂) and I'd still listen. Hope to catch you on one of your "serial killer next door" events x
I always think this.
Other channels edit soooo much.
Emma is excellent.
Only had chance to catch up with this one tonight so insightful. I know a guy who suffered domestic abuse for many years it has taken lots of support and love to bring him out of the darkness so thanks Em for mentioning this at the end of your video x
You are magnificent..in a very real and raw way. I’m glued to your stories. You are brave and authentic to yourself. Bravo! I am a fan and admire you greatly ❤️
I'm only at the part of her on body cam, but I need to say this. As someone who has lived in domestic abuse before, relief can make you act in ways that other people would NEVER understand. I can absolutely say that IF she was in that bad of a situation, the relief of knowing she was DONE with it, and to her the how wouldn't matter right then. After going through what I did, at points in it I would happily have gone to jail JUST TO BE OUT. My children are probably one of the biggest reasons why I didn't. But I can see why she would be acting the way she was just from absolute sheer relief.
I think she sounds rather narcissistic. Goading someone and threatening suicide in someone's presence is very controlling in itself, especially given that she told her daughter that she was fine. It's highly manipulative and angry behavior.
My mother, highly narcissistic, gets on her pity pot whenever she's confronted with reality and says things like, "I might as well die then." She's trying to manipulate her children into giving into her self-destructive whims. The last time she said that, my sister told her to hurry up and die then. This is calling a manipulator to account for their emotional manipulation. Is it nice? Perhaps not, but then neither are veiled attempts to manipulate others to get your way.
I say this as someone who has suffered at my mother's hands and been verbally abused by my husband for 12 straight hours. I'm neither naive nor heartless. I must give some grace to her husband. How many times has she pulled this crap? We don't know and we cannot ask her dead husband. Was he overbearing and nit picky about minutia? Sounds like it. But the way to handle that is with wisdom, not with escalation.
I stayed separated from my husband, whom I love dearly, for five months after his night of verbal terror. It broke my heart and there was no family nearby to run to. So, I get how hard it is to stand one's ground and not know where you're going to be from day to day or how long the DV shelter will allow you to stay. I understand loving someone who hurts you and wanting and needing to protect yourself and stay safe. But . . . , my concern for my own well being was equal to my deep and abiding concern for my husband's soul and well being. I never went a day without praying for him. He was broken more than I. And that broke my heart for him, not for me.
The fact that we eventually reconciled and reunited is by the grace of God that I cared as much about my husband's soul as I cared about my own. We are one flesh. I cried nearly every day of those five months for him. Not to make me complete but that he would come to his senses and get the help he needed. And he did.
Perhaps Penelope and David were both equally broken in similar ways. And apparently, Penelope felt entitled to being herself without giving an inch while expecting David to do all the changing to appease her insatiable need to be right instead of making peace with the reality that she picked a broken man which has to tell us something about her own brokenness and twisted needs.
I agree with you entirely. Sounds like you have similar experiences to myself. Sending you best wishes... 😎✌🏽💜
You are very descerning imo.
I disagree. Her stating she wanted to commit suicide could of been her at her wits end. When another person is putting you down constantly, telling you you can't do this or that right for example him complaining about having bubble and squeak etc she got to a point where, " if I can't do anything right if everything I do is wrong, then Il take my own life, will that make you happy"
It's more likely he choose her as a partner due to his abusive ways. Holding a knife to her throat in public so how was he behind closed doors and for how long?
@@sarahh5058 I understand your point of view and in some cases you are correct.
However and this is just my opinion, I don't see this here with this lady.
I did a deep dive into this case and I found out some very interesting things aswel as what was reported.
When they first met in the beginning with this relationship he had an adopted son which he and his previous wife took on before she died.
This lady gave him an ultimatum and said he had to put that child back into the care system if he wanted to make things work out for their relationship.
This is what happened.
Also I am not saying he wasn't ever faultless he was, however the whole relationship had its problems for a while.
The night of this incident she took the knife, the murder weapon into the bedroom and placed it under her pillow before the argument ensued.
So her explanation of defending herself breaks down completely imo.
Also she had plenty of opportunities to exit this relationship, which if course would of been the better option.
I can't stand people who use suicide threats as a control mechanism. I've known people to threaten it when their partner wants to leave them, just to guilt the unhappy partner into staying. Disgusting.
Looking forward to it! Love you & your videos. Would love to hear your take on the Anni Dewani case x
Yes!! Great suggestion ❤️🔥. That case has never sat well with me. I’m convinced the husband set her death up.
Fantastic Presentation of such a tragic Crime.
I love the way you appreciate everything "Outside The Box" from All areas of the Spectrum here.
Again Deepest Condolences on the loss of Your Beloved Father.
He's looking down on You and is SO Proud of the Daughter he will Always Love 🌈❣️
Sending Love and Strength to You and Get Well Soon to Your Beautiful Dog.
I love how You accommodate her in your work environment and putting her needs first.
I spent nine years working in Veterinary Practice and this added a beautiful moment in contrast to the Content you're delivering here.
I also worked for the Welsh Ambulance Service as a 999 Call Handler and Emergency Ambulance Dispatcher for seven Years.
The 999 Call here resonated with me greatly as Dyfed Powys Police also work with the same Protocol Academy as we did/do.
I remember so well the adrenaline kicking in receiving and processing these types of Calls.
My thoughts are with All involved and/or affected.
Thank You Emma for such fantastic Content once again ❣️
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Have downloaded Best Fiends and now blissfully addicted and at War with my child....
Thanks Em! 😃👍🏼🙈🙈🙈
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Much Love
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I almost think her attitude after his death was a defender mechanism. People that go through years and years of abuse learn to deal with extremely distressing situations often by shutting down or appearing “normal”.
Ah shit I missed your “live” 7 minutes late!!!! Loving the content and I would listen to you reading the Yellow pages 🤣 I am also a 70s child and fully invested in your consistent podcasts.What makes you special is that you can make me laugh and cry throughout the 1 hour episode,that is very powerful and is why I am a “super fan” keeping it alive and I love it 😍 bravo 🙌
I love the way you get right to the point, Stacey!!! Very well said! Sending a hug to you
Ah thanks Tammy keeping it real x
The body cam footage of how cold and detached she was is chilling. Looking forward to Sunday for Emma to unravel everything for us.
Hey Emma, hope you are good! Love your videos! Can you please do some more of crimes in Scotland? Thank you xx
Thoroughly enjoy your videos without exception. Love it. Thanks Emma 😀
I absolutely cannot wait for this!! Don't believe someone could be so blasé without some reasoning behind it. Looking forward to this so much
Lawyers jump on the band wagon to get publicity..this one obviously did the trick
She obviously snapped..over a period of time..enough time to make an exit plan..but 2 cruises a year..people stay for the goodies too..sorry..guilty and life..she iS a big girl
I just love your insight into these cases Emma! What a different side to things compared to what I’ve read in the media. I just love your podcasts!! X
I feel Penelope never forgave David for his violent past after his son died and built up a huge resentment during the following years. I’d imagine with drink taken they were both vile however, her actions in my opinion, are inexcusable. I think the jury got it right on this one. Brilliantly covered Emma x
Fully concur that more men need a voice. As someone who lost their partner to suicide simply because nobody would listen I get the fear, ignorance and the shame of being mentally ill that they carry because they are told to 'man up'
Emma I have two video suggestions for you that I would love your take on: David Tronnes case (this guy makes my skin crawl) and Colonel Russell Williams, the British born Canadian former Colonel of the Canadian Armed Forces who was convicted of double murder and numerous sexual assaults ❤️🔥
Russel Williams will be a good case! his interrigation by Jim Smyth is absolutley brilliant xx
@@loisdiamond5674 Jim smith was incredible! I listen to this interrogation every night to fall asleep!!
I recommend watching the Russell Williams video by the Behavior Panel
@@drsteve8547 I have it’s great!!
@@drsteve8547 I love TBP I am so obsessed! did you see where they had Jim Smyth on as a guest? so good xx
I think at the time when she was arrested she didn’t comprehend the reality of her actions . Her reaction just wasn’t normal . I’ve lived with dv for yrs . It took years for me to escape , but It never occurred to me to lift a knife, or hide a knife . Believe me I got some awful beatings . Thank GOD my life is good now . I’m so sorry this was Penny’s way of escaping. I hope she finds peace .
Brilliant as always! Emma's a fabulous true crime narrator with a clever clever mind and awesome attitude! 👌
I’m so sick of people saying “ oh he/she seemed like such a nice person “ yeah it’s because that’s what they show you ! They want to keep up good appearances with the ones they are not abusing . Recently I told my bf about the emotional abuse I suffer at the hands of my father . And his response was “ he seems like a good guy when I met him “ why does it feel like when people say that they are minimising our abuse/ experiences
@@Hi-Phi it feels comforting that someone agrees on my stance . Sometimes it get extremely lonely and dark when you can’t talk to light minded people on important things such as abuse
Night off work and can finally join a premier ♥️♥️
It’s my morning here 🇨🇦. Costco will just have to wait!! 🔥
Love your amazing talent on these cases your so professional thanks for putting these videos out very informative xx
Seriously? This woman stabs her husband who is past his mid 70s and in bed unarmed and anyone should be expected to believe anything she says or give her the benefit of the doubt? Ridiculous. She is guilty of murder and no excuses at all.
Duh. No one is debating that she's guilty, she openly admits to it. The point of contention here is mitigating factors like abuse and Penelope's mental health.
As someone who has recently come out of an abusive relationship I understand how she could just snap as I very really did, I admitted to my counsellor that I was getting thoughts of if i saw him crossing the road I would run him over and those thoughts terrified me as I feel he made me into someone that I'm definitely not, trauma does that, it makes you feel and think things you never thought you were capable of, luckily getting the support I need but I dont believe Penny knew where to go or if people would even believe her judging what her family and friends were saying so maybe that's why she didnt seek help
I only saw this video this week. Really looking forward to your take as the media has painted her a monster. It's so hard to find the facts. Thanks so much for doing this.
... " I am further arresting you for murder"
"Oh good"
I really don't think Penny had any idea of the gravity of what she did. That must have sunk in later, once the effects of the alcohol wore off. Such bizarre behaviour.
Bless. My heart goes out to their poor daughter. I can’t imagine…😔
This is what can happen after years and years of abuse. I was in an abusive relationship but i was scared to death of my ex he was so cruel to me he use too lock me i the house and did so many scarey things too me.I was lucky i did get away but i know my life could have been taken at anytime ..everytime my ex had had a drink he would start on me .I just wished i would have reported him because years later i often wonder if he treated his next patner has he treated me. I still have nightmares about himand how he treated me.lucky i did meet a lovely man after spending years on my own and he is kind lovely man and he would never hurt me for the world . To me this what can happen after years of abuse. Very sad. Emma you are so brilliant at telling the story i am loveing your channel .
i cant wait for this one, she seems very cold and callous x
New to your channel!!! Loving you’re content and accent lol! (Aussie here)
I feel so conflicted with this case Emma, I think it’s so hard to form a solid opinion or argument, I have been in a very abusive controlling relationship between the ages of 16-19 and even his parents knew and saw what he was doing and didn’t intervene including me being physically hurt and had my life threatened multiple times - it’s too easy to say ‘just leave’ if you are being controlled with your life threatened daily even if you don’t live with the person it is terrifying I cannot even put into words how scary it is; especially when adults don’t even care. In this case she suffered for decades, there were times where I lost my care when he would hurt himself just to get a reaction out of me he would cut himself or threaten to take his own life and I was so mentally damaged by him I wouldn’t care and remember that’s only 3 years - now you imagine decades of abuse! I believe she was in shock the night she committed Murder because it is murder whether the control and abuse was as severe as stated or not it is murder. She was in shock - she was repeatedly saying she was cold and that was her only take from the horrific situation because in real shock your body temperature drops, she didn’t go to help him because I honestly think she did want him dead in that moment and then after she had thought about it in silence for hours or days she would’ve started to realise her reality of what she actually done and the fact she will never see David again; someone she had loved and when you are under coercive control for years you feel lost without that person you are ‘free’ but you feel lost and scared and the realisation of what she’s done and the life she took would’ve dawned on her so she stopped talking in the wake of it all as she realised she murdered her husband. I do believe all of the abuse happened; in abusive relationships you can over time become hardened and emotionless and even become abusive yourself because toxicity breeds into people and I think they abused eachother - there’s always the classic ‘abuser and victim’ but more often than not it’s ‘abusers’ they abuse eachother because it’s a toxic relationship and a toxic living environment. Of course family will say it’s a blissful relationship because they don’t see how they treat eachother behind closed doors - other than the times David slipped up and showed then BUT that was early on that was 1980 (I think) and penny would have been softer then she would’ve been terrified then, she wasn’t used to the constant comments, control and occasional physical violence and over time she would’ve got ‘used’ to it she would be numbed too it and she did have fractures over time she carried so much shame she was embarrassed infront of her child and stepson on what should’ve been a lovely special occasion and she probably did snap after being trapped in lockdown the abuse would’ve amplified. I’m on no ones ‘Side’ because I’ve been in a slightly similar position with someone like I said for 3 years and you do start to become numb and it causes confusion and what’s right and wrong really can diminish and I do believe she snapped. The sentence is fair because it is murder and the way she carried on after was cold and undeniable and I feel sorry for David’s family BUT let’s still keep in mind she was abused - I can’t comment further it’s too conflicting ! 🤷🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️ also let me just add.. I still have PTSD 10 years on from my relationship I’ve had counselling and I’m still trying to repair the damage, now you imagine decades of it…
A depression is not a cause nor an excuse to be violent. Period.
Your dog is so cute she’s a good age to bless her.
I worked with a woman years ago who had an argument with her husband over the tv remote he walked out and never came back lol she never seen him again just got divorce papers in the post. Thier home was hers that she inherited from her grandparents so was a clean break . All over the remote control 🤷♀️
I can imagine if he was able to listen knowing he is dying and you hear your wife talking like that saying I want him to die. Must be horrendous
I've never met a long time career military man with emotional intelligence. They face death a lot so I think they just become used to suppressing the more vulnerable emotions and just accept the black and white. He probably thought she finally did it and this is how I will end. Oh well stiff upper lip.
Missed the premier because people are just bloody annoying and arrive at my house for coffee... !! Rood.
Told them my friend Em was on her way round and we needed privacy... so got rid of them, opening the wine... and catching up! FINALLY
Should be grateful people want to come and see you .
@@BlytheWorld1972 calm down, it was tongue in cheek 🙄😒
Thanks for doing this one, really interesting case. Of all the crime cases I’ve heard of, I don’t think I’ve seen anyone behave the way this woman did !
That was SO balanced and sensitive to all parties. Thank you both xx👍
Lying on my couch with a beer and listening to Emma is becoming a nightly habit lol
Hi Emma, do you think maybe she was totally disassociating with her awful abuse and the crime? Maybe she had got to the point where he had put her through so much psychologically and physically that she genuinely didn’t feel anything? Hence the calm exterior and total acceptance for her crime? The fact she felt no remorse etc? I guess we never know what happens behind those closed doors. Truly awful though. Wish she had got some help prior x
Really related to a lot of what was discussed in this one after coming out of a coercive relationship first marriage, I felt very mixed emotions ☝️ it was great to debate with my hubby, thought you put across both perspectives extremely well .