Designing the Ultimate Bulk Storage
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- čas přidán 7. 04. 2021
- In this video we take a closer look at the bulk system from How to Kill a Chest Monster and have a crack at expanding the bulk to 3x the capacity in the same footprint.
Storage Tech Archive, a place where you can find all kinds of storage tech solutions:
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World Download:
www.mediafire.com/file/9bs39s... - Hry
“I like your funny words, magic man”
This hurts my brain, and not going to remember any of what I’ve studied for my exams aren’t I 😢
This is one of his easier videos to understand funnily enough
I never thought storage could be this complicated
Really, I alway thought it was as complicated as it is
I'm an old minecrafter coming to the game with memories of concepts from 1.11 or so. To me it is especially complicated because it uses new blocks, changed behaviors and this is and all the other videos for a decent sorter seem to start in the middle.
Rather than complicated, I'd call it complex. It uses relatevly simple concepts, just taken to a next level
I feel so proud, having my entire new auto storage system have the same capacity as the smallest bulk design in this video.
I love that bulk silo so much. I'm designing my own smart storage system, and im trying to do as much as a I can by myself. I am 100% using that though lol. thanks for the inspo. your videos give me so many ideas. once summer comes for me, definitely will be designing tons :D
For anyone that has a hard time understanding storage tech, and really any redstone topic:
1. Learn how all readstone components work (compareter, repeater, piston, etc.)
2. Try and understand the main idea and purpose of the machine, but not the how it works.
3. Go into a creative world and make your own design without tutorials, and don't focus on how good it is, only make sure it works.
4. Make it better, then make it better again, then again and again until you don't feel you can make it any better
Remember to start small and work your way up.
I do this basically with everything i don't understand, even in the real world. Hope this helps!
Edit: almost forgot
5. see what other people have done and compare it to yours to learn things like new techniques, and it's also good if you don't get it to work in the end.
That's like the most important part: to learn and get better from your mistakes and experiences!
6:41 agree, never leave your base without one!
If you meant the cactus, its for a mod that I don't know the name of unfortunatly, but it is used to turn entities like dropper pistons etc.
@@nic0856 Thanks, I was talking about the "Horse Cock" tho. The flipping cactus is from carpet mod, btw.
@@feisty-trog-12345 Oh lmao. Yeah I just know the cactus from ilmango(the peaceful series) and I am not using any mods when playing myself so I didn't know the mod name.
Same
I'm glad that I'm not the only person who saw that.
Yeah box sorter!
Love your storage/sorting systems!
This is so amazing, I can totally see my self using something like this for the items we store in bulk.
this design has got me excited. been watching the storage playlist and this is the first design i feel like is likely to have little to no issues but time will tell. I actually feel fairly confident I will be choosing this for my bulk, the fact that you test your designs thoroughly before publishing gives me a good feeling and I know that is not easy. So thank you for all of that hard work and love the entertainment factor too really cool video.
It apparently does have issues, even though me and Rapscallion smashed the shulker box sorters for weeks trying to get them to fail and never actually yielding. The system on ilmango's patreon server was demolished and replaced because it kept putting boxes in the wrong slices. My guess is that somebody unloaded it while it was running and boxes got clogged up in the dropper lines causing subsequent sorting operations to go derpy. I might need to replace the dropper lines with something else.
As someone who created Pacman in minecraft... I'm still very impressed (and confused) storage tech be like👀👀👀👀
~~shameless promotion go brrr~~
@@smallerthanthree8627 nah, I made this comment before I ever made a Pacman video. Was just reffering to the project itself
I can never get enough awesome storage systems. Great Job, ur brilliant
This is great! I think i'm going to build this in my world for the basics. Iron blocks, cobble, stone, sand, gravel etc. It's gonna be amazing! Thanks for the awesome design!
Mind Blown. So complex but explained so well!!
You show your brain process, that's the best. Awesome design, btw
The more I watch these storage tech videos the more I want to build them on a server I'm part of
My goodness dude your a mad lad such a cool system well done!
This is the definition of EPIC!
The silo design is pretty good
I needed it
wow that chest ui is super cool!
This looks so incredibly cool
Here I am proud of my sorted double chest.
Lol, love seing these come into existence.
The world download is missing a note block to trigger the system that unlocks the hoppers when an item is requested, there is a observer facing up but nothing to trigger it. At 14:04 you can see where it is but in the world download it is missing.
fantastic video honestly
great video!
Great video, dude. I learned a lot!
Such an awesome video and channel... I had to sub
Who named that trident at 6:41
Aaaaaah your content is solo interesting I am watching way to much of it
If you improve the multy item sorter can you try to add a lamp indicate when one item is full ? (So you know its probably the best to add a different slice for him)
This is incredible
In my survival world I have simple sorter for every item in the game, about 500 sorters, it's not laggy but I'm sure I can hopperlock a lot when it's not in use, thx for this video
Damn this look insane cooll dude
"Honey, wake up, they added AE2 to Vanilla"
Where you have the redstone line up for overflow... You can massively reduce lag but cutting out the redstone and instead using a wall and a piston and observers which is also instant to transmit that signal.
That is awesome !
Do you still plan on working on your x8HS MIS ? Really looking forward to that one !
Yeah, I've just been waiting for Skyrising to finish making a program which scans invenotires from server files. This will provide useful statistics that I can use to optimize the design.
This is just do far beyond my skill leven..
You sir, are the next Ilmango, or Gnembon.
When i tried to do an inventory panel storage system, I had it so that you could either send in a full shulker or loose items to be sorted, I feel like otherwise you would struggle to sort loose items or partially filled boxes without making a whole separate sorter for it.
Such a sexy system
Composter crafting intensifies
YES!
THIS IS AMAZING! And you could also configure different slices to store and deliver less shulkerboxes on call, and make a larger system that can store more types of items... Am i right?
I guess you can configure the amount of boxes you call however be aware that you need to balance the input counter with this otherwise your stock level indicator will go out of whack.
ngl, I might just take the bulk layout and attach that to a box display and put a lamp display showing how full the system is
this f*cked up my brain so hard i love u for that :D
Oh boy
I can't seem to think of any servers other than scicraft or prototech, where storages capable of handing out such huge bulks at once could be utilised to it's fullest.
That said, a downscaled version would probably make some smaller scale servers really happy as well. Like the 9 shulker version, or eevn just a 3 shulker version.
Hi wortigon, this bulk is meant to be paired up with the kind of storage hall I demonstrated in "How to kill a chest monster" where the full boxes from the overflow of those slices would be sent to the bulk. Those storage slices alone provde a decent amount of storage at the scales you describe.
@@cubicmetre fair enough. though, such huge chestmonsters wouldn't appear overnight. Unless you're Goodtimeswithscar.
Unreal.
hello from the Sharter Realm
This is cool & all but do you know how to make a spherical pancake?
ah yes, very important items are kept in the hotbar. like that trident, for instance...
Is it possible to keep it so that for each time you throw in an item request, it still only delivers 9 shulkers, but each item represents a capacity of 27? Accomplished by having a MOD-3 counter, when the hopper receives THREE requests for the item (tosses 3 items in), it RETURNS two of those reference items back to the interface-chest. On every 3rd request, no reference items get returned to the interface chest, and it gets treated as it does currently. This does mean you don't "know exactly" how much storage of each type you have, as the number of reference items you'll see = shulkerboxes/27 + R. But it maximizes the storage potential, without requiring either 1) more interface chests to search through or 2) requiring you call 27 shulkers each time.
The system you suggest could work however it would add a lot of complexity to the design, especially when the alternative is that when you call 27 boxes you can just return whatever boxes you don't want back to the system and it will sort them automatically very quickly.
you're so fucking underrated dude
I'm wondering what the mspt standard represents, if "millisecond per tick" isn't 50 the normal state?
It's often a number that doesn't make sense even in my own world.
Milliseconds per tick represents the amount of time a computer running a server needs to process all of the events which happen in a single gametick. The more stuff the game needs to process each tick, the more time it takes.
By default if the game takes less than 50 milliseconds to process everything it will not start processing the next tick until it reaches 50ms, this defines the default gamespeed of 20 ticks per second. If the game takes longer than 50ms to process a tick however, this is when the game starts lagging.
When we design things in technical MC we always consider minimising MSPT as lag efficiency is one of the majorly limited factors of any contraption. This is why bigger and faster is not always better.
@@cubicmetre
Oh I see!
So the MSPT is the minimum time it takes to process all of the event, but the game progress is always no less than 50 MSPT(=20tps).
And when the system is built, the goal become to decrease MSPT as well as improve efficiency.
Thank you so much :D
@@royalblue621 essentially once 50MSPT is passed the game no longer can sustain 20tps and you will experience lag.
Why not use chest minecarts at the end for overflow? Once at max capacity, extra items can go into the minecarts.
What if we dont have full schulker box of items and we still need items, will it send half shulker box?
yes
On Bedrock, Composters aren't as good since they dont prevent Hoppers from searching for item entities
How were you viewing chest contents without opening it?
Hey everyone! Do I not see something or what is going on at 12:22, is there a dropper to be pulled by a sticky piston? I guess I'm wrong, but does someone know, what is going on there?
this is only better cause it has triple the trinary counters
Does hopper locking reduces lag in bedrock also....or its just a Java thing
so im confuesed what if i have ashulker box with ramndom items in it what happens to it
Where was this when I did mine
Never thought I’d be using quadratics in Minecraft
It's skills like Mathematics which separate a good technical player from the very best.
Mumbo Jumbo who?
Damn, is there a simple starter version of this thing? lol
Now you just need a way to search up an item like you can in the creative menu.... oh boy
Dear cubicmeter, how do we learn these redstony bits and stuff, where do you recommend I should start at?
I would suggest just watching people as they build contraptions, take notes on how they use components then experiment with these concepts yourself. It takes a while to learn how many niche and ambiguous configurations there are at your disposal to make a very specific contraption work.
@@cubicmetre Thanks mate, from here I learned about the hopper locking and all. Can you say what was written in the command block to check the mspt and all?
@@yourfellowhumanbeing2323 The command is /tick entities. You can also do /log tps to display a tooltip below the player list when you hold tab. Both of these commands are part of carpet mod and quickcarpet by Skyrising. You can find all our mods on the Scicraft discord.
@@cubicmetre Thanks mate
Also if you need help with something you can join a storage tech server
That trident name tho
Do I need chunk loaders for it, because it so massive, or is it fine?
What should i do if i only want the machine to give me 1 shulker instead of 27? Thanks
Request 27 boxes, then return 26 to the storage, it takes only a few seconds to sort the boxes back again. Ideally you would pair this bulk system with a main storage from which you can grab loose items as well as individual boxes.
@@cubicmetre Never mind, I did it myself. Thanks anyway.
so I made a gigantic storage on a server I'm talking it literally went from bedrock to sky limit and It was so laggy whenever I got on the server would crash.
Uhh, yes, a storage will do that if you make it way too big. I tried to make a bulk system that could store a bilion cobblestone and it would cleave chunks out of the storage as the chunks literally became overloaded with data and corrupted. Unfortunately there is a fundamental limit to what the game can handle.
@@cubicmetre yea I did it because I knew it would crash I was crashing the server. but I love your videos! I really like the technical aspect of the game (I'm not very good at it myself)
Stoping the video to watch it when I am relaxed enough for it, don't want to waste these 20 minutes(meant positive)
Is it directional?
would this work for bedrock?
patreon server tour when?
Ilmango super speed bus is actually pretty big (I made one that's smaller all the way back in 1.15)
If u read the comment I will search it and tell u how to make the more compact one
Oh, you mean super speed BUD? I originally read bus and thought "bus, as in a flying machine that can carry people?"
@@cubicmetre yes
1 moment
@@cubicmetre made one for u
002 block
010 piston
012 rdust
013 block
111 block
020 sticky piston
120 target block
121 rdust
120 rblock
023 piston
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It's so fast
My Loooooooooooong term goal is to collect 1m of every item, so I definitely need this
This is like scicraft×250
@@bluelemon243 ez
Only renuvable
@@KaiWorld gl with coral blocks
gl with conduits
@@adamrezabek9469 just bring wandering trader to the end and trade for one week straight lmao
Does it work on bedrock?
💀
Don't look at the trident name
boggers
You barely credited Crain for the box sorter. normally you spawn a bot of the players, but in the video you said “a player named Crain” instead. a bit disappointed
I just wasn't sure how their name was spelt or whether their MC account even had the same name.
died
2k subs? That’s not enough. Get some clickbait involved. You are worth more than that with all the contraptions you make.
uh
Oh boy