Tchaikovsky's Women - Documentary about Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky | Part 1
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- Filmmaker Christopher Nupen about the film:
"When Manfred Grater of WDR Television in Cologne (the best head of any television music department that the world has seen so far) challenged us to try and make a film about the music of Tchaikovsky, without dressing up an actor and asking him to pretend to be the composer, he brought me back to the genius of a great artist with the passion of a convert. After working at it for more than a year, we realised that there was too much to be contained in a single television film and we ended up making two.
The first - this one - looks at the destinies of the women both in his private life and in his music. It looks also at the influence of each on the other. The second, " Fate", follows Tchaikovsky's relationship with Nadezhda von Meck and his increasing preoccupation with the idea of fate as a controlling influence in his own life and as a motivating force in the later symphonies. These anxieties, allied to an early foreboding that he would eventually, "...smash himself into pieces", were to bring his end, at the age of 53, more tragically than even Tchaikovsky could have foreseen.
The films were made with the unstinting help of Professor David Brown and Vladimir Ashkenazy whose musicality, dedication and profound understanding of his compatriot's music add a rare quality to these films."
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An Allegro Film by Christopher Nupen
I love that these documentaries aren't afraid to play long passages of music without fidgety visuals and credit the viewer with intelligence. No one makes films like this any more.
You're right, though MTT and the SFO did strike a nice balance in their Keeping Score series. First hour - documentary on the composer with lots of location shots and music snippets. Second hour - uninterrupted concert.
I hate it....I want to hear about his life
Y'all really just going to pretend Tchaikovsky wasn't totally gay, huh. The name of the boy who inspired Romeo & Juliet Fantasy Overture was Eduard Sack. Tchaikovsky loved him, and he died young. It is genuinely unreal people just can't bring themselves to face that the most beautiful romantic music ever written was by a man for another man; like if you're so disgusted by gay men you can't at least look past that instead of coming up with lies for yourself, then you don't deserve to hear it. 13 years after Edya's death, Tchaikovsky wrote the following in his diary, about Eduard: ""It seems to me that I have never loved anyone so strongly as him." Since you're quoting his correspondence in the documentary, you know about the journal, and in general all the thousands of letters that demonstrate undeniably his total lack of sexual interest in women.
Like I'd feel bad if this were a mistake, since obviously it's no mean feat to write and film a documentary about someone you admire, but it's obviously an actual deliberate lie, since they're quoting correspondence out of context here to the effect that the "unhealthy condition," he was referring to was not his sexuality but rather crippling bouts of homesickness he suffered every time he went on tour in Europe. He himself had very little internal conflict about his sexuality; his desire to marry was solely motivated by a desire to end gossip. I just don't understand how you can claim to love or care about the art of somebody while like, deliberately misleading the public about who he was.
he was a pedo, why you care dude
@@thevanishingman
para mim o que menos me interessa é precisamente esta questão, todavia esse sofrimento influenciou a sua música, é a obra do expoente máximo do romantismo musical é o que a mim me interessa.
one can acknowledge that he was homosexual, and at the same time feel sympathy for him for that, but not for his undoubted inclination to pederasty
Pederasty? Idiots on youtube! Don’t even know what the ages of these men were! get a grip you moron trolls
Pronunciation of Russian names are impeccable by the narrator!
Completely sympathetic and engrossing. I dare not care scholar ship, historical footnotes are not included.
I believe this motion picture comes very close to depicting actual experiences that created one of world's great composers.
Love you forever, Pytor!
;)
This is an excellent video, thank you so much for the work you put into t! The narration is very good, balanced
so well with the music. Cynthia Harvey did a very good job dancing the various female heroines. His was yet
another tragic genius' life, which wasn't nearly long enough, yet gifted us with his marvelous compositions. It
is so refreshing to hear that for once, a supremely sensitive soul like his was given an understanding father and a
caretaker who understood him so well. He was also exposed to Mozart at exactly the right time!
(I don't recognize the soprano who performed Donna Anna's aria from "Don GIovanni", but would love to find out
who she is). His dreadful pain at being separated from his mother and losing her so early, as well as his young
friend to scarlet fever, affected the rest of his life. It makes one ache for him. In addition, that critic's callous
words were so cutting that they deeply wounded this artist's sensitive soul. All this and his battle with his
own sexuality was indeed shattering. Such tragic lives led by some of our greatest composers, yet they bring
forth a wellspring of magnificent music to give to the world. May he be at peace now and re-united with his mother.
Goddamn my dude has a two part special.
must of taken a long time to put this documemtary in context, excellent narrator, very well done
Espetacular!! Muito bom! 👍👍👍👍👏👏👏👏
Tchaikovsky first orchestral composition THE STORM by 24 year old composer ends in central figure suicide
was this an omen as his last did too/his own sudden death at 53 which is still unsolved ?
This and the Brahms documentary are absolutely perfect. Never in another factual retelling have I felt such emotion.
By the way, the play described at the beginning of the film--Ostrovsky's "The Storm"--became an amazing opera by Janacek, "Katya Kabanova." Definitely worth a listen.
We should not forget the magnificent Sibelius bio!!…..Mr. Christopher Nupen’s v
Christopher Nupen’s beautiful voice and diction!!
How lovely to see this again. It makes me feel young again. Nupen, you were the best person I ever worked for. I hope you are well and happy.
one of the greatest composers to ever grace the face of this Earth... right up there with Beethoven and Bach.
Not even close
@@JoeKaye959 Joseph, you're a doomed and deluded imbecile.. are you not acutely aware of this?
So you need to offend to make your "point". The fact that your knowledge of classical music is nil doesn't give you the right to be disrespectful. Try to get some information on the subject, it won't hurt. You may like Tchaikovsky better but put him in the same league of Bach and Beethoven is just stupid.
@@JoeKaye959the one who is stupid is you
@@JoeKaye959No es un comentario despectivo hacia Tchaikovsky. En realidad ningún compositor posterior a Beethoven ha tenido su importancia histórica. Así el comentario sobre Tchaikovsky puede aplicarse a cualquier compositor posterior a Beethoven.
25:00 : I raise my tea cup to Mrs Clarry Bartha's D-cup winning the décolleté world cup.
Does anyone know what the production of Don Giovanni is, at 24:55? Its sublime.
@HammerdownProtocol: Yes, I too, would very much like to know more about it. The soprano singing
Donna Anna was so lyrically beautiful! Somehow, I have found some Donna Annas a bit harsh sounding.
I had hoped to find it above among the information, but it was not included. Hopefully, we'll come across it somewhere. Regards to you!
Can someone please point me to the romeo and juliet rendition in this video? Is it on youtube?
Eternal maestro.
Tchaikovsky seems to have been - noble.
a lot of straight people seem to take being able to identify with people you admire for granted
That’s like saying “i identify with people who have green eyes.” ... seems completely irrelevant?
@@Kosmo999 can you elaborate on this please?
To think that out of 1000+ characteristics or traits that ‘identifying’ with only 1 is silly. Who gives a fuck what colour, orientation, gender, eye colour, nationality, ethnicity, hair colour, tribe etc anyone is.
@@boaz1353 it’s like saying, I’m so glad I can identify with track and feild gold medalist because we have the same X.
@@Kosmo999 it is nothing like this, thank you for proving my point
Wonderful Christopher Nupen DVD-er. Tho' I have a bone or two to pick w him re his Who was Jacqueline Du Pré? But, in general, his work is top notch, his predictary powers incredible.
Jacqueline du Pré was a legendary cellist, who had multiple sclerosis and died early. First wife of conductor Daniel Barenboim
It seems inconceivable that anyone watching a classical music doccie wouldn't know who Du Pré was. Crazy. Perhaps mckavitt13 was joking?
Interesting
What is the piece played at the end of the video after the 1:07:18 timestamp?
Romeo and Juliet Overture
Tchaikovsky was incredibly good looking. I imagine he had lots of lovers... "sexual guilt". What a cruel tragedy society is. Even today... for anyone who's different.
@si james I have no idea what you mean. Clarify? Thx.
Yes, even today.... 🙁
yes! in fact, he did have many, many boyfriends, most of whom inspired him to write this beautiful music!
Please, what composition is at 47:00?
Its Francesca da Rimini 😀
what is the music at 29.16 ? I would be grateful if anyone can tell me
Should i tell u
@@iknowimaysoundgaywhenisayt386 dam someone else with my annoying humour :)
@@quintinout my genius, my angel, my friend, it was his first work and dedicated to his high school "friend"
@@donniseltzer7718 thank you so much :)
Yes man, this piano piece move me, is precious
the music loves is the greatest movie ever made, fact or fiction, rip ken russel
Would love to see it again, cant find it anywhere!
That's the problem with making sweeping statements: who even listens to César Cui today?
Thumbnail?
Primos Sanches 25:05
Sorry,its not Tatyana. A lot of tangible technic and italian passion, not Tatyana.
It's technique & hers isb't great. If by Italian you mean bad... yes. Altho' most Italian singers sing magnificently.
It's odd; she sounds like a mezzo trying to nudge her register upward.
36:04 who is that ballerina?
cynthia harvey
The conductor at 14:40 looks like Rod Stewart.
The Conductor is the great pianist Vladimir Ashkenazy!
The soprano singing Tatiana's letter scene is atrocious. Why couldn't get a better soprano for this documentary.
I agree. I doubt they could afford one.
Who was that singing Tatiana's letter scene, what is her name? and where is she from? I thought she did a splendid job, who do you think is better singing it today?
@@pgalasvegasinCA It doesn't matter if s.o. is singing it better today. This soprano is unpleasant to the ear: overgrown vibrato, a screecher. Netrebko used to sing it well. Now she's shot.
@@pgalasvegasinCA Helen Field. Listed, like all the singers, in the beginning.
Thank you so very much, I looked at the end of both episodes, didn't check the beginning, thanks again.
A brooding Russian maniac who just happened to be a great composer.