Tchaikovsky's Women - Documentary about Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky | Part 1

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  • čas přidán 20. 11. 2016
  • Filmmaker Christopher Nupen about the film:
    "When Manfred Grater of WDR Television in Cologne (the best head of any television music department that the world has seen so far) challenged us to try and make a film about the music of Tchaikovsky, without dressing up an actor and asking him to pretend to be the composer, he brought me back to the genius of a great artist with the passion of a convert. After working at it for more than a year, we realised that there was too much to be contained in a single television film and we ended up making two.
    The first - this one - looks at the destinies of the women both in his private life and in his music. It looks also at the influence of each on the other. The second, " Fate", follows Tchaikovsky's relationship with Nadezhda von Meck and his increasing preoccupation with the idea of fate as a controlling influence in his own life and as a motivating force in the later symphonies. These anxieties, allied to an early foreboding that he would eventually, "...smash himself into pieces", were to bring his end, at the age of 53, more tragically than even Tchaikovsky could have foreseen.
    The films were made with the unstinting help of Professor David Brown and Vladimir Ashkenazy whose musicality, dedication and profound understanding of his compatriot's music add a rare quality to these films."
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    An Allegro Film by Christopher Nupen

Komentáře • 98

  • @2906nico
    @2906nico Před 4 lety +38

    I love that these documentaries aren't afraid to play long passages of music without fidgety visuals and credit the viewer with intelligence. No one makes films like this any more.

    • @BlueBaron3339
      @BlueBaron3339 Před 2 lety +1

      You're right, though MTT and the SFO did strike a nice balance in their Keeping Score series. First hour - documentary on the composer with lots of location shots and music snippets. Second hour - uninterrupted concert.

    • @vaughangarrick
      @vaughangarrick Před rokem

      I hate it....I want to hear about his life

  • @thevanishingman
    @thevanishingman Před 2 lety +15

    Y'all really just going to pretend Tchaikovsky wasn't totally gay, huh. The name of the boy who inspired Romeo & Juliet Fantasy Overture was Eduard Sack. Tchaikovsky loved him, and he died young. It is genuinely unreal people just can't bring themselves to face that the most beautiful romantic music ever written was by a man for another man; like if you're so disgusted by gay men you can't at least look past that instead of coming up with lies for yourself, then you don't deserve to hear it. 13 years after Edya's death, Tchaikovsky wrote the following in his diary, about Eduard: ""It seems to me that I have never loved anyone so strongly as him." Since you're quoting his correspondence in the documentary, you know about the journal, and in general all the thousands of letters that demonstrate undeniably his total lack of sexual interest in women.

    • @thevanishingman
      @thevanishingman Před 2 lety +4

      Like I'd feel bad if this were a mistake, since obviously it's no mean feat to write and film a documentary about someone you admire, but it's obviously an actual deliberate lie, since they're quoting correspondence out of context here to the effect that the "unhealthy condition," he was referring to was not his sexuality but rather crippling bouts of homesickness he suffered every time he went on tour in Europe. He himself had very little internal conflict about his sexuality; his desire to marry was solely motivated by a desire to end gossip. I just don't understand how you can claim to love or care about the art of somebody while like, deliberately misleading the public about who he was.

    • @bilis2866
      @bilis2866 Před 2 lety

      he was a pedo, why you care dude

    • @alvarosousa8834
      @alvarosousa8834 Před rokem +1

      @@thevanishingman
      para mim o que menos me interessa é precisamente esta questão, todavia esse sofrimento influenciou a sua música, é a obra do expoente máximo do romantismo musical é o que a mim me interessa.

    • @wadejnelson
      @wadejnelson Před rokem +4

      one can acknowledge that he was homosexual, and at the same time feel sympathy for him for that, but not for his undoubted inclination to pederasty

    • @nickmat3153
      @nickmat3153 Před měsícem

      Pederasty? Idiots on youtube! Don’t even know what the ages of these men were! get a grip you moron trolls

  • @tarionmarsden157
    @tarionmarsden157 Před 5 lety +17

    Pronunciation of Russian names are impeccable by the narrator!

  • @stevehinnenkamp5625
    @stevehinnenkamp5625 Před 6 lety +14

    Completely sympathetic and engrossing. I dare not care scholar ship, historical footnotes are not included.
    I believe this motion picture comes very close to depicting actual experiences that created one of world's great composers.
    Love you forever, Pytor!

  • @marcellepesek3038
    @marcellepesek3038 Před 9 měsíci +2

    This is an excellent video, thank you so much for the work you put into t! The narration is very good, balanced
    so well with the music. Cynthia Harvey did a very good job dancing the various female heroines. His was yet
    another tragic genius' life, which wasn't nearly long enough, yet gifted us with his marvelous compositions. It
    is so refreshing to hear that for once, a supremely sensitive soul like his was given an understanding father and a
    caretaker who understood him so well. He was also exposed to Mozart at exactly the right time!
    (I don't recognize the soprano who performed Donna Anna's aria from "Don GIovanni", but would love to find out
    who she is). His dreadful pain at being separated from his mother and losing her so early, as well as his young
    friend to scarlet fever, affected the rest of his life. It makes one ache for him. In addition, that critic's callous
    words were so cutting that they deeply wounded this artist's sensitive soul. All this and his battle with his
    own sexuality was indeed shattering. Such tragic lives led by some of our greatest composers, yet they bring
    forth a wellspring of magnificent music to give to the world. May he be at peace now and re-united with his mother.

  • @brandonglidden
    @brandonglidden Před 2 lety +4

    Goddamn my dude has a two part special.

  • @kopynd1
    @kopynd1 Před 3 lety +5

    must of taken a long time to put this documemtary in context, excellent narrator, very well done

  • @ricardonascimento6020
    @ricardonascimento6020 Před rokem +2

    Espetacular!! Muito bom! 👍👍👍👍👏👏👏👏

  • @susanpower9265
    @susanpower9265 Před rokem +4

    Tchaikovsky first orchestral composition THE STORM by 24 year old composer ends in central figure suicide
    was this an omen as his last did too/his own sudden death at 53 which is still unsolved ?

  • @bullcutgaming7749
    @bullcutgaming7749 Před 5 lety +16

    This and the Brahms documentary are absolutely perfect. Never in another factual retelling have I felt such emotion.

    • @caseypride
      @caseypride Před 3 lety +1

      By the way, the play described at the beginning of the film--Ostrovsky's "The Storm"--became an amazing opera by Janacek, "Katya Kabanova." Definitely worth a listen.

    • @suzyserling277
      @suzyserling277 Před 2 lety

      We should not forget the magnificent Sibelius bio!!…..Mr. Christopher Nupen’s v

    • @suzyserling277
      @suzyserling277 Před 2 lety

      Christopher Nupen’s beautiful voice and diction!!

  • @CliveDavisOoYFNUNEXmmFUE10M

    How lovely to see this again. It makes me feel young again. Nupen, you were the best person I ever worked for. I hope you are well and happy.

  • @KenRubenstein
    @KenRubenstein Před 2 lety +11

    one of the greatest composers to ever grace the face of this Earth... right up there with Beethoven and Bach.

    • @JoeKaye959
      @JoeKaye959 Před rokem

      Not even close

    • @KenRubenstein
      @KenRubenstein Před rokem

      @@JoeKaye959 Joseph, you're a doomed and deluded imbecile.. are you not acutely aware of this?

    • @JoeKaye959
      @JoeKaye959 Před rokem +2

      So you need to offend to make your "point". The fact that your knowledge of classical music is nil doesn't give you the right to be disrespectful. Try to get some information on the subject, it won't hurt. You may like Tchaikovsky better but put him in the same league of Bach and Beethoven is just stupid.

    • @metatrader111
      @metatrader111 Před 6 měsíci

      @@JoeKaye959the one who is stupid is you

    • @manueljoseblancamolinos8582
      @manueljoseblancamolinos8582 Před 4 měsíci +1

      ​@@JoeKaye959No es un comentario despectivo hacia Tchaikovsky. En realidad ningún compositor posterior a Beethoven ha tenido su importancia histórica. Así el comentario sobre Tchaikovsky puede aplicarse a cualquier compositor posterior a Beethoven.

  • @mikedaniels3009
    @mikedaniels3009 Před 4 lety +14

    25:00 : I raise my tea cup to Mrs Clarry Bartha's D-cup winning the décolleté world cup.

  • @HammerdownProtocol
    @HammerdownProtocol Před rokem +3

    Does anyone know what the production of Don Giovanni is, at 24:55? Its sublime.

    • @marcellepesek3038
      @marcellepesek3038 Před 9 měsíci +2

      @HammerdownProtocol: Yes, I too, would very much like to know more about it. The soprano singing
      Donna Anna was so lyrically beautiful! Somehow, I have found some Donna Annas a bit harsh sounding.
      I had hoped to find it above among the information, but it was not included. Hopefully, we'll come across it somewhere. Regards to you!

  • @ln706fuyuuuu
    @ln706fuyuuuu Před 2 lety +3

    Can someone please point me to the romeo and juliet rendition in this video? Is it on youtube?

  • @josepablo1514
    @josepablo1514 Před 6 lety +10

    Eternal maestro.

  • @metteholm4833
    @metteholm4833 Před 4 lety +4

    Tchaikovsky seems to have been - noble.

  • @boaz1353
    @boaz1353 Před 3 lety +13

    a lot of straight people seem to take being able to identify with people you admire for granted

    • @Kosmo999
      @Kosmo999 Před 3 lety +1

      That’s like saying “i identify with people who have green eyes.” ... seems completely irrelevant?

    • @boaz1353
      @boaz1353 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Kosmo999 can you elaborate on this please?

    • @Kosmo999
      @Kosmo999 Před 3 lety +1

      To think that out of 1000+ characteristics or traits that ‘identifying’ with only 1 is silly. Who gives a fuck what colour, orientation, gender, eye colour, nationality, ethnicity, hair colour, tribe etc anyone is.

    • @Kosmo999
      @Kosmo999 Před 3 lety +1

      @@boaz1353 it’s like saying, I’m so glad I can identify with track and feild gold medalist because we have the same X.

    • @boaz1353
      @boaz1353 Před 3 lety +6

      @@Kosmo999 it is nothing like this, thank you for proving my point

  • @mckavitt13
    @mckavitt13 Před 6 lety +3

    Wonderful Christopher Nupen DVD-er. Tho' I have a bone or two to pick w him re his Who was Jacqueline Du Pré? But, in general, his work is top notch, his predictary powers incredible.

    • @mathildewesendonck7225
      @mathildewesendonck7225 Před 3 lety +1

      Jacqueline du Pré was a legendary cellist, who had multiple sclerosis and died early. First wife of conductor Daniel Barenboim

    • @michaelrg3836
      @michaelrg3836 Před 2 lety

      It seems inconceivable that anyone watching a classical music doccie wouldn't know who Du Pré was. Crazy. Perhaps mckavitt13 was joking?

  • @christinamlaverty8430
    @christinamlaverty8430 Před 4 lety

    Interesting

  • @Will-zy3ru
    @Will-zy3ru Před 2 lety

    What is the piece played at the end of the video after the 1:07:18 timestamp?

  • @mckavitt13
    @mckavitt13 Před 4 lety +10

    Tchaikovsky was incredibly good looking. I imagine he had lots of lovers... "sexual guilt". What a cruel tragedy society is. Even today... for anyone who's different.

    • @mckavitt13
      @mckavitt13 Před 3 lety

      @si james I have no idea what you mean. Clarify? Thx.

    • @santi7616
      @santi7616 Před rokem

      Yes, even today.... 🙁

    • @nickmat3153
      @nickmat3153 Před měsícem

      yes! in fact, he did have many, many boyfriends, most of whom inspired him to write this beautiful music!

  • @natalijadrazovic5104
    @natalijadrazovic5104 Před rokem

    Please, what composition is at 47:00?

  • @quintinout
    @quintinout Před 4 lety +2

    what is the music at 29.16 ? I would be grateful if anyone can tell me

    • @iknowimaysoundgaywhenisayt386
      @iknowimaysoundgaywhenisayt386 Před 4 lety

      Should i tell u

    • @quintinout
      @quintinout Před 4 lety

      @@iknowimaysoundgaywhenisayt386 dam someone else with my annoying humour :)

    • @donniseltzer7718
      @donniseltzer7718 Před 4 lety

      @@quintinout my genius, my angel, my friend, it was his first work and dedicated to his high school "friend"

    • @quintinout
      @quintinout Před 4 lety

      @@donniseltzer7718 thank you so much :)

    • @NEFESHI
      @NEFESHI Před 3 lety

      Yes man, this piano piece move me, is precious

  • @kopynd1
    @kopynd1 Před 3 lety

    the music loves is the greatest movie ever made, fact or fiction, rip ken russel

    • @jimcrawford5039
      @jimcrawford5039 Před 2 lety

      Would love to see it again, cant find it anywhere!

  • @michaelrg3836
    @michaelrg3836 Před 2 lety +1

    That's the problem with making sweeping statements: who even listens to César Cui today?

  • @stopmotionprimos
    @stopmotionprimos Před 5 lety +2

    Thumbnail?

  • @nataliakatalitskaya5203
    @nataliakatalitskaya5203 Před 6 lety +2

    Sorry,its not Tatyana. A lot of tangible technic and italian passion, not Tatyana.

    • @mckavitt13
      @mckavitt13 Před 4 lety

      It's technique & hers isb't great. If by Italian you mean bad... yes. Altho' most Italian singers sing magnificently.

    • @caseypride
      @caseypride Před 3 lety

      It's odd; she sounds like a mezzo trying to nudge her register upward.

  • @mattb-iq3iv
    @mattb-iq3iv Před 5 lety +2

    36:04 who is that ballerina?

  • @EdmundHeng80
    @EdmundHeng80 Před 3 lety

    The conductor at 14:40 looks like Rod Stewart.

    • @suzyserling277
      @suzyserling277 Před 2 lety +1

      The Conductor is the great pianist Vladimir Ashkenazy!

  • @karllieck9064
    @karllieck9064 Před 5 lety +1

    The soprano singing Tatiana's letter scene is atrocious. Why couldn't get a better soprano for this documentary.

    • @mckavitt13
      @mckavitt13 Před 4 lety

      I agree. I doubt they could afford one.

    • @pgalasvegasinCA
      @pgalasvegasinCA Před 4 lety

      Who was that singing Tatiana's letter scene, what is her name? and where is she from? I thought she did a splendid job, who do you think is better singing it today?

    • @mckavitt13
      @mckavitt13 Před 4 lety

      @@pgalasvegasinCA It doesn't matter if s.o. is singing it better today. This soprano is unpleasant to the ear: overgrown vibrato, a screecher. Netrebko used to sing it well. Now she's shot.

    • @mckavitt13
      @mckavitt13 Před 4 lety

      @@pgalasvegasinCA Helen Field. Listed, like all the singers, in the beginning.

    • @pgalasvegasinCA
      @pgalasvegasinCA Před 4 lety

      Thank you so very much, I looked at the end of both episodes, didn't check the beginning, thanks again.

  • @ILikeMyYT123
    @ILikeMyYT123 Před 2 lety

    A brooding Russian maniac who just happened to be a great composer.