Can My 85' Chevy K10 (AKA Big Green) Go Where the Ram TRX Couldn't? We Hit Snowy Trails to Find Out!
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- čas přidán 23. 07. 2024
- We take Big Green out of the barn to find out if it can tackle a trail that the new Ram TRX couldn't.
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You need positive traction and skinny tire to go in deep snow, and getting a run at the hill doesn't hurt.
Its a truck. Why would a 0-60 time of anything less than 10 seconds be worth a dime? Its a truck.
It’s the driver, not the trucks that couldn’t make it.
@@klausschlobluvsmesometwood4679 Complete agreement.
@@klausschlobluvsmesometwood4679 I thought it was a tough enough trail for that vehicle. My 6 cylinder 2 wheel drive truck would likely not make it. That trail has character not unlike some jobsites. Which is what a truck should be built for. Back in a load of 2X4s and be able to pull out. (Some jobsites are horrific.) Class 4 trails in southern Utah?, mudding in Tennessee?,,, special made vehicles. The reason I choose a 2 wheel drive,,, the annual cost of calling for a tow out of the mud once or twice a year, is far less than the extra cost for the 4 wheel drive. I'm a cheapskate.
I LIKE the simpler, older trucks. Heater, aircon.,,, that's what I want. Blue tooth split screen 8 way surround sound, 0-60 in 2.6 seconds, power windows, power mirrors, power door locks,,steps, a bed height that needs a lifting crane,,tires that cost 3 grand each,, ,, uh,, why? Just doubles the price without halving the work cost. My truck is ugly,,15 years old,, but it has a habit, it starts every time. Its all I need.
Standard cab, long bed, manual transmission, no screens, and no tech. This Chevy wins for me.
That old Chevy all the way.
@@uncle_salty_3675 rip dodge transmission won't make it past 80k
I draw the line on no air conditioning Lmao
@@Obama___ I get that but u could just as easily get one with A/C or just buy a kit to install it, those old trucks are so simple to work on and modify when it comes to that stuff
Is that green k10 not a short bed?
I found myself cheering "come on big green!" That was awesome!
Haha. I think we all were!
Agreed
I did the same. I absolutely love those old square body's.
@@alaskarailroad3996 I would've been cheering for a Dodge Ram 1st Gen. To heck w/ the overpriced new junk.
I’d take the ol Heavy Chevy too 👍🇺🇸
Old Chevys Never Die ...They Just Go Up In Value👍
No. Jeeps go up in value for the same reasons. Well older CJs and YJs.
My graduation present in 86 was a used CJ5 with a snap top and full soft doors and I had it in a beaver pond Fender deep and no computer malfunctions. And on the other side muddy and steaming. With the short wheelbase and turning radius I could go between trees in bottoms and pickups could not.
The last CJ5 I inquired about cost 10 thousand over my basic 2000 TJ that I still own. Yeah it's a 4 banger with a soft top, half doors and a 5 speed manual. I paid 18 and was offered 12 for it a few months back. There's some scratches but no rust. But I wish I had my CJ back though.
Damn straight. I bought an '84 back in 2006 for $4,000 cash. The guy was getting married and had just dumped $8,000 into it. Still own the truck & it's probably worth north of $15k now.
And rust out lol had lots chevys and they are
Best oh and like the ovals no rainbow your green trk did great but u will find a auto is best in snow!
A solid set of lockers and you'd have had big green up that hill first run. Beautiful truck, solid reliability and performance. Just goes to show that newer ain't always better.
Totally agree! Selectable ideally (I’ve broken too many axles in old Chevys with lockers that kicked in after I used too much right petal). You have to give it to modern rigs; their drive terrain is bulletproof compared to those old 10 bolts!
@@joeculver6227 that's where a k20 comes in. Those modern drivetrains are cute compared to those 205 transfer cases and 14 bolt rear ends.
@@konnerkramer329 true that look how many people swap in d60 and 14bolts as upgrades fastest street cars all running th400 old school any day
Well. Lift kit and bigger and better set of tires means alot. Lift and matching tires, that Dodge eats that up too. He also admitted he was afraid to romp on the Ram.
@@rediron44 I love that k10 but this wasn't fair and equal
that proves that no need to pay 100K to have fun! great job guys.
No kidding, trucks today are ridiculously overpriced nowadays.
The most fun you will have is in a 2000 dollar beater. LOL
You can restore one for under 10 grand and add a brand new engine. I recommend a big inline 4 because it's light but has more torque
@@Revon-Feuer more torque? Cmon bud😂
I agree the prices are way blown out. I feel embarrassed for the people who buy into the lies manufacturers tell about production prices and quality. Its a plain out screwing either way you spin it. The business model has always been to make things for as cheap as possible and has never changed. The trx is probably About 18-20k in parts and 1200 in labor. Sells for 85000
When I lived in the Yukon these trucks with a set of chains on the front were unstoppable because there transfer cases were all gears , no plastic crap in them ,we used them as prospector trucks looking for iron ore and zinc as well as gold deposits , sure miss those old simple get us home trucks .
Now it's 'engine power reduced', 5 miles from home with a skiddy on the trailer....🙄
Big greens is absolutely beautiful and a dream vehicle. That ram looks nice but nothing beats a classic square body.
I really like the simple rugged look of big green. That's the kind of truck you can work on yourself without needing OBD code reader and googleing the codes.
Love the square body chevys , put front and rear lockers in there , go almost anywhere 👍
Not to mention if the new crap even throws a code or throws a code which pinpoints the exact problem.
They make a nice centrifugal locker that goes into these diffs that I don’t think is too expensive.
The K10 square bodies are the epitome of a pickup truck for me. You don’t need screens when you’re supposed to be watching the road.
Don’t like the Cooper tires but love the square body. Solid front axle is an advantage I feel. Tires and momentum is key. What’s amazing is throwing chains on and you can go through so much more.
Big Green still has to be one of my favorite trucks to grace youtube, the simplicity of it makes it all the more relatable. Being a kid growing up through the 90's these were your dad or grandpas truck, everyone had a square body...
Awesome comparison . The sound of “Big Green” clawing it’s way up the hill was great! Fun way to enjoy the day. Thanks for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed it
I had a 1977 model of that truck with headers, flowmaster mufflers, and sidepipes. I could drive through Walmart parking lot and set off half the car alarms lol.
The Green Goblin prevails as I expected. Old tech never gets old. Good job guys.👍🇨🇦
Big Green sounded glorious going up in 4 high!!
Fun comparison. I had a 76 Scottsdale 30 with a 454. We always referred to 1st gear as the Granny Gear. 🙂
This dude is a TV personality waiting to happen. Get him on top gear, hotrod garage anything just get this guy on TV. Great job my guy.
My thoughts exactly 💯
Reminds me so much of my 78 Silverado. I'd rather have Big Green than the TRX. So happy you gave it a try.
I love the old chevy truck bodies. That squared off design is beautiful.
People in 2050: man, the 70/80s trucks certainly looked cool from the outside but it wasn’t until the 2020’s that they
REALLY nailed the gas 1/2 tons w/ the Raptor & TRX😂😂😂😂
No, you wouldn't.
Man, Big Green is a beauty. Love that thing. I knew it would make it too, sometimes you just can’t beat charging it in the old school trucks. More fun doing it that way anyway.
Hey, I’m just a sucker for a limited slip differential. It’s always worked out perfect for me. Mud, snow, dirt, or ice, it does it all. it’s always great for daily driving too, especially in the rain and wet conditions. It’s not for everyone or everything, but it’ll do the job 95% of the time.
I’d like a limited slip diff in the back for ease of use! Maybe also put an locker in the front for just in case?
I grew up on chevys with the limited slip, always served me well.
That went just as I expected 👍 I love those square bodies
I had a 88 Toyota Pickup with no lift and 30" tires that kept up with 2 lifted F-250's on 35's on a power line that they already rutted. I put my right tire in the rut and left tire in the middle and chased them sideways as they flung mud all over me. Wish i never sold that truck, now I'm sad.
I had a 98 Tacoma, manual everything with the v6, remember doing similar things in it with 31s. I love Toyota's and Domestic trucks, they're both awesome. Never understood people who hated on either one cause they're both great in their own ways
That Chevy looks awesome! It's just looks like the definition of pickup truck!
The father and son relationship they have is awesome 😎 love that old Chevy!
With manual gearbox, you sould drive in second speed in the snow. It helps getting traction.
Thanks for an awesome review of a basic truck. Keep'em coming TK!!
I have countless memories wheeling my old square body with buddies when we were growing up. They are great 4x4 trucks. We got ourselves in all kinds of nasty situations. And got out as well.
I bought a 78 K/10 Scottsdale that I am slowly going through and rebuilding, 383/TH400. The new stuff just can't compare long term! LOVE IT!!
I like this comparison. I really hope that Toyota Tundra trip up north happens. Keep after them. We really want to see the 2022 compared to the older trucks.
Square body is hands down the best looking truck ever. Love it.
Good video and beautiful Chevy. If you have plenty of power and a manual trans, a higher gear (like 2nd) and low to medium throttle are the best way to forge through deeper snow. It helps distribute torque more evenly to all wheels when you don't have locking differentials. Granny gear is better for climbing or descending steep, rough hills. 🙂
Analog and light(er) for the win!
Granted I'm of the if it ain't broke motto, but those STTs are amazing snow tires for an MT-based design. I had them for many years on my Vehicross and never got stuck. Slightly different design and capabilities between that and the 'average' truck, but those tires felt like having tank tracks equipped.
Been tire shopping for my Tundra, and between buying those and now, unfortunately they are not my first pick anymore.
Anyway, loved seeing Big Green. I'm surprised that's not the poster child for this channel!
Include Big Green in more of your videos! It is very interesting to see how old school can be better than new, which is what we saw in this video!
Noted!
@@TruckKing yes big green are the best videos you make
new trucks are for suckers
Let's be honest. What we saw in this video was a completely unfair comparison. He admitted he was willing to hit the hill a lot harder with his own truck than with the new Dodge. I'd wager you could get the Ram up that hill if you weren't too nervous to carry more momentum. I don't blame him for a second for how he handled things, but it makes for an unfair comparison. Having said all that, I'd still rather see Big Green in my driveway.
I say you are spot on. I work on vehicles everyday and I miss my old K5 dearly. I had to call for a tow a few months ago because my Ram buried itself in my level yard! Never would've happened with the good ole stage coach suspension and mechanical control.
Back in the day.. the average man could wrench on his own truck.
Beautiful Chevy
Also could build his own home, did you build your house?
@@jibrilthegreat35 I have..
And plan to build another and make YT videos
@@jibrilthegreat35 Are you defending car manufacturers greed? They intentionally do things these days to not only cut out doing your own repairs, they make it unaffordable for small mechanic garages to do the repairs. they want you getting ripped off at their dealerships.
If big green only had a rear locker it'd be unstoppable
I honestly don't know why you wouldn't have a locker in a beautiful beast like that.
I agree!!
Double lockers 👍👍
It’s likely does have the G80 Eaton locker from the factory.
@@livewithnick I mean a real mechanical locker
I have to say I like big green!, But I'm old school I drive a 95 all wheel drive Astro van with a rear locker and all terrain tires with high performance off-road shocks!! Plus this video was intense!!I was rooting for big green had me on the edge of my seat!!!
I'd like to see a video on that too. Those Astro vans were underrated, imo.
@@jedironin380 And unsafe... not in my opinion.
I've been there done that and loved that last run ! You gave her hell just like you're supposed to .
I absolutely love those square body trucks!! Well done
THOSE OLD SQUARE BODY CHEVY TRUCKS BRING DOUBLE THE PRICE OF THE OLD FORDS SAME YRS
Park em both at the local pizza joint on Friday night and which one gets more attention? I'm guessing it's that green one.
😂
are you insinuating that pizza people are stupid?
@@your_dose_of_reality haha! Nope...pizza folks know thier trucks!!
@@MrHand-ih4sz Then they would crowd around the TRX. There's nothing special about a square body. Yeah they're classics, but they're still a pretty common sight.
The green truck will get more old man and the trx will get more girls
So proud of big Green!😁
Oh yeah Big Green is Kick ass! I would never thought that TRX was so heavy?! Great video Thanks 🤠
I had an 80' Chevy. I drove it until it literally fell off the frame. I had a cookout that turned into an auction for what was left of her. Best trucks ever.
K10 all day! Be proud of your truck and your driving. TK keeps getting better.
Great job getting through. I'd like to see the TRX with those tires on it and see the difference. Old tech vs new tech, basically boils down to the right tool for the right situation. Weight and traction vs speed and power. Good job boys.
Thanks Greg
I love your old truck and it is obvious you do too. When it comes to snow though more weight is better generally. If you throw a pickup box full of wood on old green she would have walked right up that hill first time. Biggest issue for the dodge was those cooper SSTs even with a shorter tire that dodge may have made it. One more thing is if you bust the trail first with one truck (in snow) the next one has a better chance. The reverse holds true in mud.
When soccer moms became a big part of the truck/SUV 4wd market because they wanted to sit as high as anyone else on the road while driving a Cadillac car......that's when 4wds lost their true purpose. This video proves it again.
@@thomasmartini7879 You haven't done much 4wd in snow with hills or mountains then, more weight is the last thing you want, nothing in general about it. Common knowledge: gravity and traction is a bigger SOB with more weight.
@@decibelinterference2033 Yeah, that'd be a big fat negatory on that one driver. There's no common knowledge about it, @thomas is correct. How are you supposed to get the tires to grip if they're just floating/spinning in the snow? Unless they're paddle wheels...you need traction & without enough weight, you won't get enough traction. Throughout MANY of our winters spent up in Lake Tahoe...if my empty Peterbilt 10 wheel dump truck (w/full rear locker axles) starts spinning or losing traction in the snow...we either throw a couple fat scoops of snow in the bed or (if height permissive) I'll just raise the bed up so all the weight is concentrated over/on top of the axles...& she'll walk on out every time. Not going to debate, just know what works/makes traction for me & that's downforce personified, resulting from the extra weight. However, as he said...that's NOT so much the case when it comes to deep mud.
Love the comparison!!! I have a 85 GMC Sierra Classic 3500 with a 454 factory and is a Fall Guy truck replica. With 37 inch Super Swampers and the big block, I have yet to get stuck anywhere and I have had it for 13 years.👍👍👍 You have a new subscriber 👍👍👍
That was AWESOME!!! :D Just think how much easier it would've been with lockers :O
The right tire is a big advantage as well. , loved your video
Great video, beautiful trucks! Unlike a lot of others who commented I was not expecting that. Years ago I had a 1990 Ramcharger with a small lift and very good 35" Mud King tires and I was snow wheeling with a buddy who had a 1997 chevy tahoe with no lift and 33" tires(not sure the brand) we each had 4 guys inside and everywhere I went, He went and one hill I couldn't climb for anything, He did. I blamed it on the extra weight and IFS so that's why I was sure the TRX would have it in the bag.
I just bought a 1986 GMC high Sierra. I’ve said for a long time that if I could find an old truck that was in good condition that I would probably keep it forever. The same hoping it was going to be that truck. I enjoy all the new fancy stuff and newer vehicles. But there’s something about the old stuff that just is very cool and simple into the point. Thanks for the video. God bless you and your family. Duane
If you live in an area where they salt the roads, make sure you protect it with some kind of oil undercoating.
I lost my first dream truck to rust. The truck I have now, 1983 Chevy 1 ton 4x4, is well coated with Fluid Film. I won't lose another one!
Actually, even if you don't live with road salt, it wouldn't hurt to give it at least one coat. That cab and chassis will be good forever then. I plan on keeping mine the rest of my life.
@@Bloodbain88 thank you. I also plan on keeping mine for the rest of my life. I will definitely look into that. God bless you and your family. Duane.
Don't matter how much power you have it matters how good it holds up
I had a 78 Jimmy
Lifted 4 inches
Stroked 350
4spd np 435 trans w/205 transfer case
Loved that truck
The newer super trucks are pretty crazy in terms of all the added features and especially the price. That '85 K10 is sweet! Too bad one in working condition that needs mainly cosmetic TLC is pretty pricy now days. I should have bought one 5-10 years ago when they were reasonably priced for an old truck.
bought one with 54,000 original on it( i know this cause i bought it from a friend who bought it brand new in 85) used as a farm truck all its life it just needs a lot of body tlc
That was cool ....now hopefully you guys can get a 4-5” fresh snow cover only, everything to freeze over and than try it again with Big Green breaking the trail.
A+++
Big Green prevails!
Awesome video!
Always loved the old fully mechanical trucks. Tried and true technology that’s easy to maintain, understand, and doesn’t require specialized equipment. Bullet proof design that never quits. And with the right carb setup u can get upwards of 50 mpg
That's what I call having fun!!
SQUARE BODY TRUCKS ARE GOLD.
I’ve been a big green fan ever since tfl truck was looking to buy big green and rebuild it. It would be cool to have green vs every truck you review 👍🏽
Drove the same truck as your “big green” hunting for years in Canada’s North. Always had “pizza cutters” on ( skinny tires with good grip) and it would go amazing places. Those tires are too wide for good winter driving, especially on slick pavement.
Excellent video, I really enjoyed watching. Let me say that TIRE, TIRES, and Excellent Snow TIRES will make all the difference. Yes, it is nice to have all the new technology and lots of power, but if you cannot hook up in the snow, all that is for nothing. I have a 97 Dodge with a Cummings (yes, I know that is a very heavy truck) but with locking differentials and 4 Cooper Discoverer S/T Maxx tires, it is a beast. I plow snow with it and add some weight in the back. I have plowed up to 16" of snow with not much of a problem. I did put 255/85/16s, the taller but narrower tires work amazingly well.
Awesome. Love older trucks!
Sometimes the 60k dollar price difference, and ownership makes the difference between how hard you push the vehicle.
Yeah. You're not pushing a 100k truck like you will a 20k truck, especially if you have the title to the 20k truck.
Best pick-ups in the snow I have had were my 4-cylinder 4x4 Ranger's and a 1968 Chevrolet 1/2 ton 4x4 with a 6 cylinder. They were all amazing in snow, better than any other pickups I have had so far. The 1995 F-150 with a 302 that I have now seems pretty good, but I haven't really tested it out to the full extent.
First off locking differentials make all the difference.
Added to the rear a must, and added to the front completes for the win!
Wheeling in Pennsylvania I’ve learned snow and mainly ice can make the easiest of trails impossible. And I’m convinced my low tech XJ can hang with larger rigs because of being so much lighter.
Yup
Hard to beat a good ol square body Chevy. I sure miss mine. Nice truck sir.
Awesome video!! Love those old square bodies.
I had that 1984 /85 that was a little rough 17 years ago I had a 350 rebuilt motor and low 3 ,granny gear 123 I needed to redo exhaust and found a pair of headers and bought couple cherry bomb glasses packs put it all together and little tuneup ,,,it had the simple old 2 barel Quadrajet carburetor I rebuilt one time never had any problems with it that thing was amazing fun whenever driving through a parking lot full of cars at 20 15 mph drop it down to low granny gear and it would backfire and pop so loud it would set car alarms off or Scare old people not that that was my intention it was just that's what sometimes happened a little bit funny man I enjoyed watching that video you driving that truck up that hill sure made me want to go find a four-wheel drive one and build it and have a little fun like that maybe one day thanks for the video
Best truck channel on CZcams, hands down.
Wow, thanks!
I agree
Big green looks amazing 🤩
I think this is a great video and I'm sure you have a blast with that old chevy. You just can't beat them old square body trucks..
Thats awesome. Good for you. The old 4x4's still rule!
Difference was the momentum and the TRX broke fresh snow. Even the first run you had more momentum than the TRX because you were afraid to damage it. But anyway I was rooting for Green because TRX cost too much!
You have NO idea what you are talking about.
Don't blame him trx is ridiculous expensive
@@rjejames28 I agree
@@dalephillips8250 I was pricing out Ford xl 150 with hybrid engine and a few options. Around 58k
@Rje James I'd probably go with their 5.0 v8 as best choice for f150 but I am more of a V8 guy when it comes to full size pickups
Now, for the sake of a fair test and comparison, you have to find a place on open space in the deep snow where the old pickup will get stuck, and then try to drive there in a new pickup. Because as I understand the only thing holding you back is not even its weight, but its width, so as not to damage it.
The RAM would have made it if it had pre-existing tracks as well like the Chevy had.
If it is not broken it doesn't need fixed
Thats the best way to describe classic vehicles and why we should've just stayed in the 70's and 80's 🤣
My vacation property is on a mountain. I learned this years ago in the snow. I had an old 70's Jeep for going up and down in bad weather. With chains on all 4 wheels the Jeep was only stopped with ice. New tech cars and trucks were done at 6 inches of snow on that mountain.
I just want to be able to buy a single cab again
I am not a Chevy fan but I would drive that truck. Nice job big green.
@@Tony-bg6ql Lmao yeah right
I love the video on such beautiful trucks and you having fun!!! Keeping having a Great time Bud!
Thanks 👍
Big green is a dream truck for me. I live in iowa and can't find one. Closest I've come is a manual transmission diesel I got to tool around in while I was in the army. Don't need a diesel but it's beautiful! Nice job man, awesome video.
Rather have the old simple Chevy. True truck.
STT PRO'S are MT tires, TRX has Hybrid tires inbetween aggesive All Terrains and MT tires.
I have a 79 Cheyenne short bed 4 wheel drive,I lived in the sangre de Cristo mountains in Colorado 450 hp 36" the chevy never got me stuck, wolf creek pass with a ton of snow 1:00 am pushing snow 👍❤️❤️❤️❤️
Making me miss my 87 K5 Silverado blazer...it went through trees and nyc taxis haha best truck ever
Every time I went to play in the snow in my 89 blazer . I pulled out some many different trucks out there . Just unstoppable!
I knew big green would do it! I just knew it! Great job guys!
Love the vid, I have a TRX and I'm restoring my 1984 K10. Love big green!
Can't beat them old trucks, had a 1975 Powerwagon and that thing was an absolute monster
I don’t care how high you lift it ,the axles and the pumpkin are going to limit what and where you go because you will be pushing snow or mud with them!
I think with lunchbox lockers and a camed 454 it would close the gap for about $4k
My buddy Eric had a 78 Chevy that we took mudding a bunch of times. Was a automatic 3 speed (I believe might be wrong don’t shoot me) with a 305. It’s top speed was around 70-75 downhill but man the thing would chew mud with street stock tires. Just floor it and it would keep moving no matter what. We finally buried it and it took headlight deep mud in a natural spring fed mud hole. And when it was stuck, she was stuck. Took us a new holland and a case ih with dually rears and 4wd to get it out. Good times.
Nice. i like both trucks and have a 1980 K10 myself. I've also lived all my 65 years in New Hampshire and I'm not really sure that the RAM couldn't have made the hill with the same tires but also with the second run at it with more speed and not as much concern about hitting the trees like you did with Big Green. In the end though, I would have done the very same thing. :o)
You gotta send it!
As a fellow nh man, you got to send it, and you call that a hill?
NH lifetime 68 year old man here! Fun video! In 86 I bought my first brand new vehicle which was also my first truck. A new F150 regular cab with manual 4 speed with 1st gear granny. It was my daily driver and I Drove that truck through snow while hunting on tote roads and everywhere else. In 95 I bought a new one but I didn’t trade in the old 86. I put new tires, gas tank, and ball joints on it and gave it to my Dad! He had it for years. I still miss that ole truck with a ton of memories attached to it. Fast forward to 2020 after a number of other trucks, I bought my first Ram. I just put a set of Falcon AT3W tires on my 2020 Ram Bighorn 4X4 crew cab and they are awesome. I love the truck and still hunt, I just wish I still had the physical agility I had 37 years ago when I bought that 86. I was adventurous back then lol The new Ram, now 3 years old next month will likely last me my lifetime cuz I’m loving it and the prices of trucks now is crazy! Again, fun video!!
I would take old technology over new old tech is up to the driver
As a long term winter driver and a huge fan of the GM square bodies i really enjoyed the video. I can count at least 7 I've owned over the years. My memory isn't great at my age so there's likely some I missed. Just a quick thought, you'd have made it up that hill the first time if you had narrower tires. In snow, you get better traction with an aggressive but narrow tread than the wide ones. It's a matter of digging rather than floating.
We used to call that extra low gear a "bull low". I love the Chevy trucks from that era.
$100K truck or a $5k truck which would you go off roading with ?
Big greens more loke a $10k truck these days.
@@Ulfstigandr probably 15k
Big Green
Big green after mods and based on current market is worth much more than 5,000 but yes I would take big green off road before the Ram.
Square chevy all day long, and chevy.
Who needs an Elton John interior or computers, cameras & crap?
If you had lockers front and rear , that thing would climb a goat trail straight up . Beautiful truck ❤️