If someone brings it back, I BETTER hope someone tries to breathe new life into what once was the carousel of progress! I want to see that thing returned to a working carousel theater!
I'm kind of glad they didn't build this watered down version. The station and track in the center is iconic and the new route doesn't even go through Space Mountain.
Just recently I was riding the Autopia near the abandoned Peoplemover and after the structure of track near Finding Nemo and Autopia near the waterfall as the cracks seem to worsen over time and the golden paint on the track seems to crack off and reveal the former peoplemover track color the grey and white. There is mostly cobwebs and weeds and plants already growing on the track.
@@FM7Studios I mean could you imagine what would happen if Disney closed the ride it would be like. Disney:Hey remember when we closed The People Mover in Disneyland and replaced it with the,totally good and definitely not gonna fail,Rocket Rods? Michael Eisner:Yeah why? Disney:Well let's also close the one at Florida. Michael Eisner:...OK then,let's do it.
@@FM7Studios Yeah. And plus. They might even recreate the second floor probably? And fix the old track. And even the loading/unloading area. And even move back the Rocket Jets onto the loading area of the *"People Mover"* As we'll rethemeing *"Tomorrowland"* back to it's classic root's.
@@FM7Studios Yeah, As specially with *"Walt Disney's Carousel of Progress"* Because they can bring back the old ride, With new stuff. And a re-created version of the *"Epcot"* project display.
it seems nowadays any news that goes out about Disney parks are always sad and disappointing, meanwhile news about Universal is overwhelmingly positive
I work for an applied science company, meaning we don't just make one product, we develop the technologies that allow other companies to produce things. One of our technologies is linear induction tracks. We actually have a very small 1/8 mile maglev track at one facility which is fun if you want to ride a flatbed train car back and forth for no reason. Anyhow, since Tomorrowland was about future technology, not past I kind of hoped they'd bring it back but without the 1964 idea of wheels rolling under the cars. It would be cheaper and cause less stress to have a single maglev rail propelling the whole thing. You could even adjust speeds up/down or stop for loading. I'm not saying you could go full on EMALS with the thing but you could make up the speed later in the ride so the end result would have been similar to a continuous moving People Mover. So much regret.
Hypothetically, the maglev could work, but I’m not sure that Disney wants to deal with the costs of running it, since the magnets would need to be high voltage.
Nerd rant incoming: To be honest, I’m kind of glad that they didn’t go through with this. In part because the old Carousel of Progress building could be made into a working carousel theater again. Though it hasn’t moved in 10+ years, I’m willing to say that there’s a chance that the old drive system is still underneath (I believe you’d have to take the building out to get to it). Additionally, why rip out something so iconic like the old station? It could still hold potential.
I know for a fact that it will never come back.. not with the same track.. and I mean any of that track and it's not because it's cracked. It's because of new codes. The track would need rails and walkway on each side of the track in case of breakdowns. This fact came from Bob Gurr himself. So it would have to be more like WDWs version where it hugs the side of buildings.
@eb2k445 it's more about the cost to do that and other codes for other parts of the track.. means it would cost less to start over. Disney is not ready to start redoing tomorrowland thus everything is just sitting there. Disney forward and possibly a 3rd gate has a higher priority.
My friend said the track was the walkway, and glass used to line tracks was acceptable to retrofit ride. It's not a new ride, so options are wider to get it to code.
This would be an excellent solution, but they could also put in the Tron cycle ride as an outdoor roller coaster. They made plans for this too that somehow disappeared.
Disney : Nope can't fix the People Mover the tracks are "irreparably" damaged (Hey can't you just remove a damage piece and replace it then ) HEY SHUT UP! No it'll cost to much Disney later: Hey we're going to spend millions upgrading the place where people stand and wait to get on a ride, because theming!
If you look at the track Right Now and I'm not talking about the exposed track the track that goes in and around some of the buildings where you can't see it It's even worse than people thought condition wise It would cost millions to design new people mover cars and upgrade the track They are not interested in the people mover at Disneyland I've herd about this It essentially was a feasibility study for a potential change The damage from the rocket pods has been down played parts of the track especially the turns are permanently damaged
I will buy a pass for me and Family ONLY when the Peoplemover Returns! Until then I have Many other places to spend money.... Epic universe is coming Fast!!!
There is almost no way PM will ever return. It would need tons of renovation but the the larger obstacle would be making it compliant with current code and capability for evacuation. Since they tore down the original ride they would not get to grandfather code. The whole Tomorrowland refresh was an abysmal failure, which seems to be the result every time Disney tries to do a project on the cheap. This is why the Rocket Rods was put in, to do quick and dirty E-Ticket attraction while spending as little as possible. Just a few problems, like horrible guest throughput making for massive lines, and having no re-ride value because honestly it sucked unless you got a "walk on" which was pretty much what the PM was, and because it was a maintenance disaster with constant breakdowns and of course the well known structural issues using a guideway for a slow ride and putting a fast and heavy ride vehicle on it. Too bad they did not instead keep the PM and reuse the carousel and do an updated carousel of progress, both of which are still enjoyed and frequented at Magic Kingdom, and has massive guest throughputs.
there lots of rust and corosion on the structures before doing any work on it, they need to run a vehicle along the structure with stack of sand bags to test the condition of the structure to make shure it could still hold otherwise the structure could collap, they would have to add additional pillars and support beam to reinforce the structure, and some of the pillar may have to be changed out that runs over autopia and submarine lagoon.
I think the bigger problem holding them back is the long term future of Autopia and the Submarines. They are going to want t do it right and in a way that stays for the next 40-50 years. But yes the COP building is a problem too. I don’t know why they are so aimless with it.
Question 🙋♀️, I know what video topic you can next, what about the former Paradise Pier (both the original incarnation and then current one ☝️) which are now Paradise Gardens Park and Pixar Pier and what’s left please 🙏
Agree about Paul Pressler, can't agree even a bit about Eisner, he saved the company and brought forward thinking ideas with him; what screwed him over in his final years was him being rushed to run the financial side of the company once Wells died, which he had no experience with, coupled with the fact that this happened not too long after the disaster of Euro Disney, caused the shareholders to eventually get the better of him, which in intern, caused the budget cuts that brought the the PeopleMover and the atrocious Tomorrowland retheming a few years down the line down with it.
@@bryanrodriguez7636 Michael Eisner didn’t save the company, the Bass brothers did, as they were the ones who stopped the hostile takeover. Secondly, it was Michael Eisner who started the whole “let’s shove IP into everything trend”, as well as the one who hired Paul Pressler, made him the president of Disneyland, and approved all of Pressler’s cost cutting, which not only brought the quality of the park down, but resulted in the deaths of two park guests. Ultimately, Eisner was the man in charge and held ultimate responsibility for these things.
When i say i like the Michael Eisner tomrrowland, i mean the magc kingdom michael eisner tomorrowland. not disneyland michael eisner tomorrowland. why? the peoplmover.
What if I told you, Disney had a chance to remove the track and the old loading dock? Without having to close a single ride or impact any other attraction? For pennies on the dollar because every construction company would have bid on the job? But Disney said no? This happened, the year was 2020.
It's a place to sit down and relax, but food and drinks are not allowed, you can't have guests resting, with nothing in their hands and mouth, it's like leaving money on the floor.
Y’all are forgetting how Unpopular the People Mover was… It was so unpopular that it was always a Walk on… So unpopular that they didn’t bother to open the ride until later in the morning… So unpopular at the end that most days they didn’t open it at all… It closed for a reason… Unpopular
The kinetic energy alone that The People Mover brings to the lifeless land is worth bringing it back.
Tomorrowland was once a kinetic beacon!
If someone brings it back, I BETTER hope someone tries to breathe new life into what once was the carousel of progress! I want to see that thing returned to a working carousel theater!
@@FM7Studios Skybuckets and People Mover made the land so fun - not to mention people climbing the Matterhorn, Tinkerbell flying to the castle
I'm kind of glad they didn't build this watered down version. The station and track in the center is iconic and the new route doesn't even go through Space Mountain.
I'm seriously hoping that Disney announces something during D23 this year about revamping Tomorrowland, it's been on the list for years now
Fingers crossed 🤞
Just recently I was riding the Autopia near the abandoned Peoplemover and after the structure of track near Finding Nemo and Autopia near the waterfall as the cracks seem to worsen over time and the golden paint on the track seems to crack off and reveal the former peoplemover track color the grey and white. There is mostly cobwebs and weeds and plants already growing on the track.
At least yay for more validation that they 'could' bring it back.
It’s possible!
We need to pressure disney into bringing back the peoplemover
Yes, bring it back!
It was happy to see that The People Mover in Disney World was safe.
Me too!
@@FM7Studios I mean could you imagine what would happen if Disney closed the ride it would be like. Disney:Hey remember when we closed The People Mover in Disneyland and replaced it with the,totally good and definitely not gonna fail,Rocket Rods? Michael Eisner:Yeah why? Disney:Well let's also close the one at Florida. Michael Eisner:...OK then,let's do it.
That’s definitely good. I miss the one in California.
How about, Bringing back the old *"Carousel of Progress"* Show 3:02
That’s not a bad idea! 🤔
@@FM7Studios Yeah.
And plus.
They might even recreate the second floor probably?
And fix the old track.
And even the loading/unloading area.
And even move back the Rocket Jets onto the loading area of the *"People Mover"*
As we'll rethemeing *"Tomorrowland"* back to it's classic root's.
@@marieoconnor1283 I would love that!
@@FM7Studios Yeah, As specially with *"Walt Disney's Carousel of Progress"*
Because they can bring back the old ride, With new stuff.
And a re-created version of the *"Epcot"* project display.
I loved that.
it seems nowadays any news that goes out about Disney parks are always sad and disappointing, meanwhile news about Universal is overwhelmingly positive
I agree, Universal has been killing it lately!
@@FM7Studios im so excited for Epic Universe to open! i know its going to be Epic 😁 (pun indented)
@@superbubsymariobobcat1097 I can’t wait, it definitely will be “EPIC!”
@@FM7Studios i cant wait to see Dark Universe! and its funny because you predicted that in your first Q&A video!
Great video, I remember getting on this ride as a kid, this would bring back some messed nostalgic back to Tomorrowland.
I would love to see it return someday!
I'd imagine the biggest problem is how to evacuate people from the ride when it breaks down - guard rails and staircases, elevators, etc.
Yes, it’s definitely a complicated problem!
I work for an applied science company, meaning we don't just make one product, we develop the technologies that allow other companies to produce things. One of our technologies is linear induction tracks. We actually have a very small 1/8 mile maglev track at one facility which is fun if you want to ride a flatbed train car back and forth for no reason. Anyhow, since Tomorrowland was about future technology, not past I kind of hoped they'd bring it back but without the 1964 idea of wheels rolling under the cars. It would be cheaper and cause less stress to have a single maglev rail propelling the whole thing. You could even adjust speeds up/down or stop for loading. I'm not saying you could go full on EMALS with the thing but you could make up the speed later in the ride so the end result would have been similar to a continuous moving People Mover. So much regret.
Wow, that’s fascinating. Thank you for you’re insight!
Hypothetically, the maglev could work, but I’m not sure that Disney wants to deal with the costs of running it, since the magnets would need to be high voltage.
This is something that already running at Walt Disney World using induction. They can do the same here.
I guess that would be the Rocket Rods bring back to life instead of the PeopleMover
Nerd rant incoming:
To be honest, I’m kind of glad that they didn’t go through with this. In part because the old Carousel of Progress building could be made into a working carousel theater again. Though it hasn’t moved in 10+ years, I’m willing to say that there’s a chance that the old drive system is still underneath (I believe you’d have to take the building out to get to it).
Additionally, why rip out something so iconic like the old station? It could still hold potential.
I know for a fact that it will never come back.. not with the same track.. and I mean any of that track and it's not because it's cracked. It's because of new codes. The track would need rails and walkway on each side of the track in case of breakdowns. This fact came from Bob Gurr himself. So it would have to be more like WDWs version where it hugs the side of buildings.
I wouldn’t mind that
@eb2k445 it's more about the cost to do that and other codes for other parts of the track.. means it would cost less to start over. Disney is not ready to start redoing tomorrowland thus everything is just sitting there. Disney forward and possibly a 3rd gate has a higher priority.
Also considering the track has been abandoned for nearly 25 years, it’s very unlikely.
However I would love a new version of the ride similar to Florida!
My friend said the track was the walkway, and glass used to line tracks was acceptable to retrofit ride. It's not a new ride, so options are wider to get it to code.
It don't really matter now, it cost so much to just go to Disneyland I can't afford it! Next time I am in So Calif we will be going to Knotts!
Knotts is a blast! A perfect blend of intense modern coasters and vintage dark rides!
This would be an excellent solution, but they could also put in the Tron cycle ride as an outdoor roller coaster. They made plans for this too that somehow disappeared.
Yes, that would have been amazing!
The only place Tron might fit in Tomorrowland is if you demo’d Autopia
@@Matterhorny It would be demolished anyways if they go to an all electric version to allow for electric charging. Tron would be above Autopia.
Gotta love the Retro Disney Music.
It’s so good!
It’s awesome!
Disney : Nope can't fix the People Mover the tracks are "irreparably" damaged (Hey can't you just remove a damage piece and replace it then ) HEY SHUT UP! No it'll cost to much
Disney later: Hey we're going to spend millions upgrading the place where people stand and wait to get on a ride, because theming!
😂
Great video. Really appreciate the length.
Thank you!
If you look at the track Right Now and I'm not talking about the exposed track the track that goes in and around some of the buildings where you can't see it It's even worse than people thought condition wise
It would cost millions to design new people mover cars and upgrade the track
They are not interested in the people mover at Disneyland
I've herd about this
It essentially was a feasibility study for a potential change
The damage from the rocket pods has been down played parts of the track especially the turns are permanently damaged
I will buy a pass for me and Family ONLY when the Peoplemover Returns! Until then I have Many other places to spend money.... Epic universe is coming Fast!!!
Can’t wait for Epic Universe!
I try all the time to get my sister to spill on people mover.
At track full of speakers now and lights
Yup, at least they’re still being used for something!
@@FM7Studios I see the glamor trams used to be gray white and blue. Today is universal studios hollywood 60th Anniversary
Babe wake up fluffymailman7 just uploaded about the peoplemover at disneyland
😂
That was in 2013 and the company changed for the worse and they probably won't even do it now
Why not use the track and the Star Wars Launch bay for the Tron lightcycle ride
That would be awesome!
There is almost no way PM will ever return. It would need tons of renovation but the the larger obstacle would be making it compliant with current code and capability for evacuation. Since they tore down the original ride they would not get to grandfather code.
The whole Tomorrowland refresh was an abysmal failure, which seems to be the result every time Disney tries to do a project on the cheap. This is why the Rocket Rods was put in, to do quick and dirty E-Ticket attraction while spending as little as possible. Just a few problems, like horrible guest throughput making for massive lines, and having no re-ride value because honestly it sucked unless you got a "walk on" which was pretty much what the PM was, and because it was a maintenance disaster with constant breakdowns and of course the well known structural issues using a guideway for a slow ride and putting a fast and heavy ride vehicle on it.
Too bad they did not instead keep the PM and reuse the carousel and do an updated carousel of progress, both of which are still enjoyed and frequented at Magic Kingdom, and has massive guest throughputs.
The tracks are fine and up to code do to rocket rods
there lots of rust and corosion on the structures before doing any work on it, they need to run a vehicle along the structure with stack of sand bags to test the condition of the structure to make shure it could still hold otherwise the structure could collap, they would have to add additional pillars and support beam to reinforce the structure, and some of the pillar may have to be changed out that runs over autopia and submarine lagoon.
There would be a lot of work needed to bring back the Peoplemover!
I miss the friggin’ Peoplemover.
I think the bigger problem holding them back is the long term future of Autopia and the Submarines. They are going to want t do it right and in a way that stays for the next 40-50 years. But yes the COP building is a problem too. I don’t know why they are so aimless with it.
I hope they’ll be able to figure out what to do with those attractions!
If not the people mover they need to bring back Sky Cabins.
That would be cool!
Why not both?
Question 🙋♀️, I know what video topic you can next, what about the former Paradise Pier (both the original incarnation and then current one ☝️) which are now Paradise Gardens Park and Pixar Pier and what’s left please 🙏
Great suggestion, I’ll be heading down to the parks in a few weeks. I’ll go get B roll while I’m there!
"Tommowland" in title. love the video, though!!
Thank you, title has been corrected 😅
The Peoplemover and Tomorrowland: Sad victims of two of the biggest Disney Villains there ever were: Michael Eisner and Paul Pressler.
Hopefully one day they’ll restore Tomorrowland to its former glory!
Agree about Paul Pressler, can't agree even a bit about Eisner, he saved the company and brought forward thinking ideas with him; what screwed him over in his final years was him being rushed to run the financial side of the company once Wells died, which he had no experience with, coupled with the fact that this happened not too long after the disaster of Euro Disney, caused the shareholders to eventually get the better of him, which in intern, caused the budget cuts that brought the the PeopleMover and the atrocious Tomorrowland retheming a few years down the line down with it.
@@bryanrodriguez7636 Michael Eisner didn’t save the company, the Bass brothers did, as they were the ones who stopped the hostile takeover. Secondly, it was Michael Eisner who started the whole “let’s shove IP into everything trend”, as well as the one who hired Paul Pressler, made him the president of Disneyland, and approved all of Pressler’s cost cutting, which not only brought the quality of the park down, but resulted in the deaths of two park guests. Ultimately, Eisner was the man in charge and held ultimate responsibility for these things.
When i say i like the Michael Eisner tomrrowland, i mean the magc kingdom michael eisner tomorrowland. not disneyland michael eisner tomorrowland. why? the peoplmover.
The 1995 version of Magic Kingdom’s Tomorrowland was really cool!
What if I told you, Disney had a chance to remove the track and the old loading dock?
Without having to close a single ride or impact any other attraction?
For pennies on the dollar because every construction company would have bid on the job?
But Disney said no?
This happened, the year was 2020.
I had no idea, I wonder why they said no.
@@FM7Studios considering tron was extremely delayed because of covid restrictions... that could have played a part.
@@floridathrills maybe 🤔
Bring back skyway
Definitely!
It's a place to sit down and relax, but food and drinks are not allowed, you can't have guests resting, with nothing in their hands and mouth, it's like leaving money on the floor.
Did my comment get scrubbed?
Not that I’m aware of 🤷♂️
I think you replied to someone, I still see your comments! (:
Y’all are forgetting how Unpopular the People Mover was… It was so unpopular that it was always a Walk on… So unpopular that they didn’t bother to open the ride until later in the morning… So unpopular at the end that most days they didn’t open it at all… It closed for a reason… Unpopular
That’s a very good point!
@@FM7Studios forgot to mention... love n miss the people mover
That would be wonderful.
It would be wonderful!