1930s Gearbox Bike - Restoration

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  • čas přidán 1. 05. 2024
  • We found this super rare German 2-Speed WW2 bicycle in the basement of an old Bavarian country house and now we're bringing it back to the road again.
    The most exciting part is for sure the gearbox, which is pretty rare so see and very exciting to restore.
    You also need to replace damaged parts with a 3D-printer?
    Then have a look at our partner Bambulab bambulab.com
    Short Q&A:
    - No repaint, we like the patina as it is. It also fits better into our workshop.
    - Restoration is in our mind a direct action on the object with the aim of making it work again, but to keep the character of the object. In doing so, its aesthetic, historical and physical characteristics are respected as much as possible.
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    Chapters:
    00:00 Part 0: The Condition
    00:50 Part 1: Disassembly
    06:54 Part 2: Cleaning
    09:31 Part 3: Preserving Patina
    11:38 Part 4: Missing Parts
    13:42 Part 5: Assembly
    32:56 Test Ride
    #restoration #bike #rust #bicycle
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  • @forgottenthings
    @forgottenthings  Před 17 dny +89

    If you liked the video, we would be very happy about a subscription! :)
    Sub: www.youtube.com/@forgottenthings?sub_confirmation=1

    • @denisaleksandrovich3664
      @denisaleksandrovich3664 Před 13 dny +2

      HELLO!
      MY ONLY QUESTION IS, WILL YOU GIVE SUCH A RARITY TO A MUSEUM?
      GREETINGS FROM RUSSIA!

    • @email4664
      @email4664 Před 13 dny +3

      It would have been nice to see some more actual full shots of this bike

    • @jonascorreia2631
      @jonascorreia2631 Před 13 dny +1

      😅😅😅

    • @ZUBRR
      @ZUBRR Před 12 dny +1

      Honda Aist better. Or Honda Casper. You can see them in RUSSIA !

    • @user-rg5zr6hz6r
      @user-rg5zr6hz6r Před 12 dny +5

      Старые велосипеды 50х 60 х 70 х 80 х были качествеными и простыми почти вечные у меня есть велосипед Урал 1980 г выпуска купил мне отец на день рождения на 14 лет . С того дня прошло 44 года а он до сих пор на ходу теперь уже внуки учатся на нем ездить .

  • @laszlofarkas9997
    @laszlofarkas9997 Před 14 dny +633

    I am a retired mathematics teacher from Hungary. As a young teacher I lived in a region (Békés county) where there were as many bicycles as in the Netherlands. As I earned little money, I started repairing bicycles. I got my hands on a few pre-war bikes, most of them Sachs, and one Hercules. I have no idea how that Hercules got to Hungary. Even then I was amazed at how durable these old bikes were made of. Like here on the Wanderer, almost all the internal components just had to be cleaned out and could go back in place. The bearing bushings were still in good condition after 50-60 years, at most the bearings had to be replaced. But in the Torpedo, they didn't have to be replaced either. This Wanderer is beautiful. I enjoyed every minute of the restoration with great nostalgia. Congratulations! Beautiful job!

    • @forgottenthings
      @forgottenthings  Před 13 dny +34

      Thank you very much!

    • @bobbytheboy1
      @bobbytheboy1 Před 13 dny +15

      I can tell you how that bicycle could end up in Hungary,because of collaboration with Third Reich as an ally ,don't you think that's possible.

    • @ZePaulo1971
      @ZePaulo1971 Před 13 dny +5

      Nice history!!!

    • @davidburgess741
      @davidburgess741 Před 12 dny +3

      And I thought I got creative restoring my '79 Dave Moulton!

    • @ariz0na332
      @ariz0na332 Před 12 dny +13

      ​​@@bobbytheboy1конечно именно так. Как и Венгерская печка для солдат третьего рейха, которая у меня на полке стоит. Котра "случайно" под Ленинградом нашлась. Как и вторая Венгерская армия в 200.000 которая почти вся осталось под Сталинградом и переводчески находим останки.

  • @titantitan3030
    @titantitan3030 Před 13 dny +308

    In my native country, Cuba, there were and are not spare parts for anything and we had to come up with them. I was a turner and miller. I started making parts for bicycles, cars and motorcycles. I made any part or adapted it and I loved it. I emigrated. I went to the US 45 years ago and when I see almost new bicycles thrown in the trash, it makes me nostalgic and I always say, how much I would have given to have found something similar when I was a kid, today I am retired from everything, only the memories remain. I congratulate you for your talent and love dedicated to restoring something appreciated

    • @laserbeam1620
      @laserbeam1620 Před 13 dny +10

      Great story!

    • @forgottenthings
      @forgottenthings  Před 13 dny +8

      Thank you!😊

    • @pcka12
      @pcka12 Před 13 dny +17

      Some modern bikes are 'trash' from new!

    • @kapilsds7
      @kapilsds7 Před 13 dny +8

      @@pcka12 That's the true story.

    • @peterparsons7141
      @peterparsons7141 Před 13 dny +13

      I am just retired, i was a kid in the 60’s and 70’s (Canada). There was a group of us kids 11-14 years old who would go scrapping on garbage days(people put out trash for pickup).
      We had could often pickup many old bikes in the spring time, people buy new bikes and throw old ones out. We could easily put together one good bike from parts. Often these bikes would get sold 5$, and it was an ongoing thing .
      The bikes were nothing near the quality of these older European bikes. The bikes from the ’60’s and 70’s were the start of disposable bikes era. I have seen the complete circle of quality, and many new bikes from the 90’s onward are again made of good quality materials, and were expensive and worth repairing.

  • @octaviussludberry9016
    @octaviussludberry9016 Před 11 dny +20

    As a museum curator, I would say you're conserving as opposed to restoring. This is what museums and galleries do - maintain what's there and if parts need replacing, they're made obvious that they're new parts. Either way, I'm a cyclist and this is totally boss.

  • @martinharris5017
    @martinharris5017 Před 13 dny +79

    WOW! I've seen shaft-drive vintage bikes before but never a gearbox bike. Thanks for restoring this this marvel of German engineering.

    • @user-sb1uh9go9w
      @user-sb1uh9go9w Před 10 dny

      Добрый день, подскажи пожалуйста как этот привод работает я искал информацию и не мог найти для чего там переключение , что оно даёт, какой принцип работы?

    • @up.grayedd
      @up.grayedd Před 5 dny

      the shifter lever is so sick

  • @francescoparretti7793
    @francescoparretti7793 Před 15 dny +213

    I’m absolutely speechless. This is not a restoration, but in my honest opinion,an heritage conservation. Amazing job. Highly professional.

    • @spankyjeffro5320
      @spankyjeffro5320 Před 14 dny +3

      This is by definition a restoration. Don't post cringey comments.

    • @francescoparretti7793
      @francescoparretti7793 Před 14 dny +19

      @@spankyjeffro5320 heritage conservation: definition
      Unfortunately, there is no single definition, because the schools of thought in restoration are diverse and especially theidea of conservative restoration varies greatly in different restoration fields.
      In general, however, we can say that conservation restoration is a restoration intervention thataims to consolidate the art object in order to restore its legibility and slow down its degradation. The basic idea of heritage conservation is to restore the existing, without reconstructing what has been lost.
      For example: An affresco where part of the plaster has come off and 30% of the work has been lost (permanently).
      If we were to do a conservative restoration to the affresco, the restorer will be responsible for securing the 70% of the fresco that is left, taking care that there are no new detachments and restoring the colors of the time by trying to use the same materials. However, the restorer will not go and "redesign" the 30 percent of the affresco that was destroyed. As we said in heritage conservation one must deal with the existing, what remains.
      I personally think that you are a person without arguments who is just looking for visibility, but that is essentially your problem.

    • @ArmoredsoldierCZ
      @ArmoredsoldierCZ Před 14 dny +7

      @@spankyjeffro5320 This dude woke up to be toxic for no reason. They said their OPINION (which you may never heard of before) and they still praised their work. So yea, dont post toxic comments. Thank you for your cooperation.

    • @Dead_Ringer
      @Dead_Ringer Před 13 dny +2

      I was going to comment similarly, you express it better though. I was itching to get out the spraying gear and give it a lick of fresh paint :D

    • @donovangibson7765
      @donovangibson7765 Před 13 dny +7

      @@spankyjeffro5320 You're joking... Right? There's no new paint, the parts weren't brought back to factory condition before reassembly... The only cringey comment here is yours.

  • @hamongog
    @hamongog Před 13 dny +58

    A 1930's bike restored in a 1930's bike shop replete with a drawer full of bicycle components from the 1930's? You've got my attention and subscription!

    • @forgottenthings
      @forgottenthings  Před 13 dny +2

      Thank you!😊

    • @eternaloptimist2840
      @eternaloptimist2840 Před 12 dny +6

      Yeah but did you see the KMC chain that came out of the Wippermann tin?

    • @BrainHurricanes
      @BrainHurricanes Před 11 dny +1

      @@eternaloptimist2840 Ssssst don't ruin it now.

    • @drider43
      @drider43 Před 10 dny +1

      @@eternaloptimist2840 Kinda makes you wonder what else isn't what it appears.

  • @RussianIvan
    @RussianIvan Před 13 dny +80

    Почему сейчас не делают велосипеды с таким редуктором? Каждый раз убеждаюсь что раньше технологии и качество были лучше чем сейчас! Сейчас даже в самых дорогих велосипедах нет такого качества и эстетики деталей. За реставрацию и хорошую сьемку большое спасибо посмотрел с огромным удовольствием !

    • @user-tu3yq8iz1s
      @user-tu3yq8iz1s Před 13 dny +12

      Россия...
      Про какие велосипеды и их изготовление в росии можно говорить,, когда в России разрушены трактный заводы, автомобильные заводы Зил, комбайновый заводы, мотоциклетный завод ИЖ, и наконец АВИАЦИОНЫЙ ЗАВОД.... 😲

    • @RussianIvan
      @RussianIvan Před 13 dny

      @@user-tu3yq8iz1s я не про Россию я вообще про весь мир сейчас даже топовые когда то бренды делают фигню, про Россию и говорить нечего даже иголки и те не делают ...

    • @andrei-st4qj
      @andrei-st4qj Před 13 dny

      ​@@user-tu3yq8iz1sА кто об этом позаботился ? Ни запад ли , когда Горбачёв перестройку надумал , а алкаш Ельцин остатки пропил , запад всегда врагом был , посмотрите историю , они к нам с мечём шли, а не мы!!!!

    • @agnomenincognita3896
      @agnomenincognita3896 Před 13 dny +1

      Если вы имеете ввиду компоновку, то похожее называется pinion czcams.com/video/IoWpFLfAZq4/video.html

    • @PONCHIK2079
      @PONCHIK2079 Před 13 dny

      ​@@user-tu3yq8iz1s это старая методичка😂😂😂

  • @thomasschultz2669
    @thomasschultz2669 Před 11 dny +2

    Wunderschönes Fahrrad! Danke für das Video! Das war erstklassige Arbeit.👍

  • @AustinWF1988
    @AustinWF1988 Před 15 dny +67

    It's a little surprising to me seeing how many specialty tools are needed to do a job like this properly. Good work, I can see how satisfying it could be.

  • @geraldrohe8669
    @geraldrohe8669 Před 16 dny +75

    Wunderbares Fahrrad. Relativ selten. Es wurden meines Erachtens lediglich 999 Stück mit diesem Zweigang-Getriebe produziert. Ich selbst habe für mich ein Adler 3-Gang-Getriebe Fahrrad von 1939 restauriert und habe meine Freude daran. Die Entwicklung des Getriebe dürfte aus dem Automobilbereich herrühren. Sehr schöne Restauration, auch dass die Patina erhalten bleibt. Die Geschichte soll ja sichtbar bleiben. Bitten weitere solche Restaurationen veröffentlichen. Sehr interessant zu sehen.

    • @forgottenthings
      @forgottenthings  Před 14 dny +7

      Danke für das Lob!

    • @isarwasser5271
      @isarwasser5271 Před 13 dny

      ---Wunderbares Fahrrad--- Aber sowas von! Adler ist auch Top. Danke für diesen Kommentar.

    • @__-lb6sf
      @__-lb6sf Před 12 dny +4

      Nur den argen Höhenschlag an den Felgen hätte er auch noch ausbügeln können ( Min.23:05). Die ovalen Aluscheiben, die unter die Speichennippel verbaut wurden, gehören mit der längeren Seite in Fahrtrichtung, die sind vorgerundet somit dürften die nicht willkürlich verbaut werden. Ansonsten kann man nicht maulen. 😊

  • @user-el9ep2lp7j
    @user-el9ep2lp7j Před 12 dny +22

    Wow, my face was frozen watching your video, my jaw dropped to the floor. Amazing, precise engineering to preserve and give life to another piece of history. My respect.

  • @Jack233
    @Jack233 Před 11 dny +5

    This bicycle is a product of Wanderer-Werke AG Chemnitz, which, in addition to bicycles, also manufactured motorcycles, cars, delivery vans and office machines. In 1932, Wanderer became part of Auto Union AG and was represented in its logo by one of four rings, just like Audi, Horch and DKW. From 1965 onwards (until today), only the name Audi was used, but the Auto Union logo was retained. The Wanderer-Werke factory in Chemnitz still exists to this day, but sadly has long been left behind and is slowly falling apart. Bicycles are still sold under the name Wanderer, but those have nothing to do with the original company, only the naming rights are used. Interestingly enough, Chemnitz has been chosen as the European Capital of Culture 2025.

  • @Digging_Kangaroo
    @Digging_Kangaroo Před 12 dny +21

    I love how you restored it but left the original beauty and character .

  • @Maximovich79
    @Maximovich79 Před 13 dny +39

    Честь и хвала автору за его знания и труды. Приятно видеть что есть люди, которые могут сохранить и реставрировать историю

    • @user-jo9xq3cl6e
      @user-jo9xq3cl6e Před 12 dny +2

      человек молодец

    • @XaLi_GaLi
      @XaLi_GaLi Před 12 dny +6

      Впервые вижу вел с такой кпп) Это что, двухскоростная? Типа, пониженная в горку, и прямая для ровных дорог?

    • @XaLi_GaLi
      @XaLi_GaLi Před 12 dny +3

      18:30 а вот это он зря) Необдуманный шаг! Если придётся снова разбирать, то понадобится ах рен еть какой мощный съёмник. Лучшее - враг хорошего! Там достаточно парочка ударов молотком и резбового прижима фиксирующими гайками. Рядовой велосипедист ремонтирует всегда "на коленке", в дороге, или просто во дворе. И точно также, при помощи молотка, но уже боковыми ударами, демонтирует шатуны. Автор тут явно переусердствовал с прессом🥴

    • @asarasswat593
      @asarasswat593 Před 12 dny +4

      Оказывается когда я в детстве перебирал свой велик для смазки и чистки я его реставрировал... Я понять не могу как это можно назвать реставрацией, у меня бы рука не поднялась оставить раму и др. элементы в таком виде имея такую мастерскую.

    • @Maximovich79
      @Maximovich79 Před 12 dny +1

      @@asarasswat593 не помню как называется, но в этом особый смысл, оставить все максимально аутентичным.

  • @slimboyde
    @slimboyde Před 13 dny +21

    Wanderer-2, what a great find. Thank you for sharing. Here the engeneer had no limits when constructing this gearbox in the optimal position. In the 1930ies bicycles were extremly expensive, about two month pay of a skilled worker. And this one was certainly much more expensive. So they could build them so durable.

  • @ducatisti
    @ducatisti Před 15 dny +49

    That gearbox and clutch unit are a thing of beauty!

  • @hechtfreundau4363
    @hechtfreundau4363 Před 16 dny +41

    Endlich wieder eine schöne Fahrradrestauration, und dann auch noch ein Wanderer Getrieberad. Traumhafter Patina-Zustand und ein sehr schöner Strahlenkopf. Ich weiß was dazugehört, so ein Schmuckstück mit Sachverstand wieder auf die Straße zu bringen, bin aber trotzdem immer von eurer sauberen und präzisen Arbeit beeindruckt. Danke für die schönen Videos!😊

  • @user-bp2yq8yg8x
    @user-bp2yq8yg8x Před 12 dny +12

    Гениальный инженер прошлого и умелый реставратор современности сделали прекрасный вечер на You tube 😊

  • @user-yv2cz8oj1k
    @user-yv2cz8oj1k Před 14 dny +28

    Love how new bike companies pretend to have invented something new, then it turns up on a 90-130 year old bike.
    That includes bottom bracket gearboxes, oval rings, and shaft drives.

    • @SubramaniamLakshminarayanan
      @SubramaniamLakshminarayanan Před 13 dny +3

      They're betting on the assumption that people wouldn't know of 130-year-old bike design technologies.

    • @asonetuh6094
      @asonetuh6094 Před 13 dny +4

      What absolutely floored me is seeing aerodynamic tri-spoke and disk wheels more than a 100 years ago. No wind tunnels or CAD - just scientific principles and intuitive design.

    • @ClifftopTragedy
      @ClifftopTragedy Před 12 dny +4

      Shut up and buy our next product !

    • @SubramaniamLakshminarayanan
      @SubramaniamLakshminarayanan Před 12 dny +1

      @@ClifftopTragedy - you are contradicting yourself. I can either shut up or buy the next product, can't do both.

    • @jean-pierredecouvreur9500
      @jean-pierredecouvreur9500 Před 11 dny +2

      ​@ClifftopTragedy... and expect to throw it out shortly after the (usually very short) warranty expires!

  • @watchyourselfishness
    @watchyourselfishness Před 12 dny +5

    Out of all the tools and technique in this video, the most impressive is that third hand tool. They are most useful for an extra thumbs up!

  • @antoniom.andersen6704
    @antoniom.andersen6704 Před 12 dny +10

    As a former bicycle mechanic here in Denmark I think this was a wonderful job

  • @BrownPeterAnthony
    @BrownPeterAnthony Před 12 dny +3

    Really nice seeing a bike restored rather than trashed, it must have been the Grand Tourer of the time.

  • @bm4751
    @bm4751 Před 12 dny +2

    Amazing project, thank you

  • @jan_pierre3138
    @jan_pierre3138 Před 12 dny +3

    In addition to the forgotten things, you also revive our forgotten memories, thank you very much 🙏🏼

  • @tyreni
    @tyreni Před 12 dny +4

    That was amazing! All through the 90s I was the neighborhood bike guy and repaired/restored hundreds of them. You have all the equipment and experience I could only dream of. Your process and attention to detail is excellent, and the editing was superb.

  • @FernandoBR1951
    @FernandoBR1951 Před 13 dny +13

    Ready for the next 100 years .Fantastic job.

  • @cnielsen2006
    @cnielsen2006 Před 11 dny +2

    Holy cow. No lead in animation, preview, preview review etc. etc. Just the stuff in the title. Nicely done!

  • @mclagett1043
    @mclagett1043 Před 11 dny +2

    Incredible videography! I LOVE all your old tools and carts... I also love that you leave the most important part of the bike fully in tact, the story told through the patina...
    Nicely done sir...

  • @Andre-vz1iw
    @Andre-vz1iw Před 13 dny +7

    What a joy to watch the Wanderer in his resurrection. Thank you for the great Video.

  • @MarkoVukovic0
    @MarkoVukovic0 Před 11 dny +5

    What a wonderful old machine, and so expertly restored. Great job on the pedal design. Beautifully photographed also, you have many talents. Thank you for sharing!

  • @tingeltangel5375
    @tingeltangel5375 Před 13 dny +3

    Selten so etwas schönes gesehen. Mir fehlen die Worte!!!

  • @Julitokiss
    @Julitokiss Před 12 dny +3

    This is a marterpiece in all the ways possible. I enjoyed every second. The amount of time, time, knowledge and resources used in this video is breathtaking. Thank you and Congratulations 👏🏼

  • @user-vc4rc7fh5r
    @user-vc4rc7fh5r Před 13 dny +12

    Прекрасная реставрация!
    Огромное благодарность за Вашу работу!
    С большим уважением!
    Здоровья и удачи!

  • @marcusathome
    @marcusathome Před 14 dny +12

    Underneath all that grime and dirt, that bike is i surprisingly good shape. Great job to bring it back to life!

    • @SilvaDreams
      @SilvaDreams Před 13 dny

      The bike has obviously been repaired and worked on over the decades, I'd say it has sat somewhere in someone's shed for 20 years (likely a relative who inherited it)

    • @marcusathome
      @marcusathome Před 13 dny

      @@SilvaDreams these old bikes are built like and as long as you keep it greased, it's good to ride. This bike is so unique with the gearbox and better alternatives available from the '50s onwards, I think it wasn't used at least for the last 50 - 60 years.
      Paint job definitely is original with its decals.

  • @user-hq4sb6yu4i
    @user-hq4sb6yu4i Před 12 dny +1

    I love bicycles, especially those that were made in England. i never seen this one before. However, those were the days when a washer, bolt, and nut up were well made, built to last. Those were the days when engineers and designers were confident in their craftsmanship and put their names on their product.
    I love this bicycle and wish to have one like it
    I like the spoke nipple key sannper.
    These days they build products in such a way, you just purchase it from the store to the repair shop.
    I think they should make these bike again
    Products that were made years ago last for hundreds of years. These days, they blew in seconds.

  • @franktuckwell196
    @franktuckwell196 Před 12 dny +2

    Magnificent. Who knew bikes had gears then and there?

  • @rwes61
    @rwes61 Před 12 dny +7

    Probably one of the best and well thought out restoration videos I have seen in my 63 years!

    • @forgottenthings
      @forgottenthings  Před 12 dny

      Wow thank you very much for that feedback!

    • @tomeksz7203
      @tomeksz7203 Před 12 dny

      He didn't do anything here... He didn't even give it new paint. He took it apart and put it back together... What is there to admire?

    • @andy_liga
      @andy_liga Před 12 dny +1

      @@tomeksz7203 Unfortunataly I have to agree, the video is amazing, but as someone with quite a bit of mechanical background I struggled to watch in some instances.
      Especially the hydraulic press for crankarms made me cry inside, pressing a square taper like that pretty much bonds it forever if ANY amount of rust forms, cranks are meant to be press in place with the bolt/nut retaining them; using an hydraulic press (even if antiseize/grease was applied to the mating surfaces) will just scrap the shaft for any future disassembly.
      Again, amazing bike and video, but only ppl with no mechanical experience can just be amazed without having some bone-chilling instances during the video.

  • @unknownnothx2093
    @unknownnothx2093 Před 3 dny +2

    I don't know much about bicycles but it gave me satisfaction

  • @randall1959
    @randall1959 Před 12 dny +2

    I like how you restored the functionality without destroying the patina.

  • @scummy73dude64
    @scummy73dude64 Před 13 dny +13

    The 3rd hand made me laugh so hard..😂
    Well done mate. 👍

  • @jasonsummit1885
    @jasonsummit1885 Před 14 dny +9

    This is awesome, never seen a bicycle design anything like this. Even the braking mechanism is cool.👍

  • @kamilkusior4670
    @kamilkusior4670 Před 12 dny +2

    This material is a work of art. A pleasure to watch

  • @user-kk3fc2mx2b
    @user-kk3fc2mx2b Před 12 dny +1

    Que excelente bicicleta!
    Fabricaban obras de arte y mucha tecnología en esos años.
    El trabajo de restauracion espectacular...

  • @user-dm4nk6gh3b
    @user-dm4nk6gh3b Před 12 dny +4

    Да, в 30- годы, это супер и в наши дни. А качество деталей!!! Super 💯💯💯!!!

  • @evgeniydragondog
    @evgeniydragondog Před 13 dny +66

    Thanks for no dumb music and not re-painting bike!

  • @ChrisB...
    @ChrisB... Před 5 dny +1

    As of this year all of my bike bearings are sealed, end of an era. That bike is amazing!

  • @01sidiropoulos
    @01sidiropoulos Před 11 dny +2

    I love people telling their stories in the comments ❤❤.. Nice video man..

  • @siraff4461
    @siraff4461 Před 13 dny +4

    So old and still a better base design than most new stuff.

    • @andy_liga
      @andy_liga Před 12 dny

      Well, that's very personal... Modern bikes are, questionably, overly fragile and maybe overly expensive, but this bike (with all due respect) holds nothing against even the most basic modern steel frame in terms of design/weight/confort/geometry. It's a spectacle to watch such a beutiful bike being preserved, but I wouln't go as far as to call it "better than most modern stuff". Gearboxes are sure reliable and amazing, but you can fix a modern drivetrain roadside with a 100g multitool, not so much for a gearbox.

    • @siraff4461
      @siraff4461 Před 12 dny

      @@andy_liga You don't understand what a base design is, do you?
      I never said the bike was better than modern ones. If you're over about twelve years old your teachers are probably to blame.

    • @andy_liga
      @andy_liga Před 12 dny

      @@siraff4461 wow, someone got offended here... would you mind explaining what do you mean by "base design"?
      Do you mean the fact that everything in this bike is over-constructed and probably gonna outlast humanity itself?
      Do you mean the geometry of the bike? Cause yeah, I mean, this looks like any other upright comfy bike geometry out there, there hasn't been any real breakthrough in the geometry of upright city bikes in the last 100years.
      Do you mean the fact that the rear triangle is removable? That's a crappy design used solely to help manufacturing by introducing a significant error tolerance in the design, as shown in the video, it often cracks, due to the stress raisers in some spots, mainly the bolt/bolt eyelet and connecting pieces.
      Are you wow-ed by the fact that the tubes from the front triangle aren't welded/braised but bolted to the headtube/BB/seatstay? Again, manufacturing aid, welding a flat triangle can be very challenging without introducing some warp or deformation, especially with the rudimentary metallurgy we had back then for civilian applications, like making a "mundane bike".
      Old bikes aren't better than new ones in any measurable way (few exceptions aside like the Lotus 108 maybe), sure they can be pretty and I agree with that, but still...
      Btw I'm way older than 12yo. At that age, while you were blaming the teachers, I was busy learning mechanical engineering from my grampa :P

    • @siraff4461
      @siraff4461 Před 12 dny

      @@andy_liga "learning mechanical engineering" yet you don't even understand the concept of design basics vs overall performance.
      Some of the concepts (base design) of this bike are better in a lot of ways than most new ones.
      That doesn't mean it works better. It doesn't mean its a better product. It means the ideas behind it are better.
      For instance having a sealed gearbox allows better lubrication without dirt or water ingress along with allowing for a much stronger gearset in a much smaller area.
      It also means the chain can be solid which reduces component count and increases reliability vs a derailer or even a sprung tensioner.
      It also allows a thinner driveline which allows a thinner frame throw and therefore increased strength per weight.
      There are numerous other advantages like shorter cable length vs a rear cassette, not having to spin every gear regardless of which is engaged, less unsprung weight if you're using rear suspension, a smaller rear spindle width which again reduces unsprung weight and increases strength per size, potentially less aero drag because there aren't multiple gear wheels and an s-bend in the flow - along with the thinner crank allowing the same and on and on it goes.
      Of course you knew that with your "mechanical engineering" background, right?
      Just because it was made a long time back using the materials and techniques of the day doesn't mean something newer is automatically a better design.
      Simply throwing some Shimano kit on a basic triangle for a frame is much cheaper and easier but that only makes it better if you buy into the advertising.
      Why would a modern company throw a load of r&d into something when they can sell something very similar to last years for a nice bump to people like you who don't understand that a carbon frame actually isn't that expensive or hard to make?

    • @andy_liga
      @andy_liga Před 11 dny

      @@siraff4461 I mean, I'm not here for a confrontation, I wasn't here for that to begin with either... but yeah, that's what you get when you start talking to strangers on the internet sometimes.
      Anyway, yeah, you pointed out how gearboxes are more reliable (as I stated earlier), that the this bikes design as a whole isn't bad (as I stated earlier) and that most new bike are overpriced/overly fragile (as I stated earlier).
      I mean, yeah, I don't understand where this whole aggression is coming from (I would understand if you would be the CEO of Pinion, but I wasn't shitting on gearboxes either).
      Btw I do get that you have strong opinions (since you sound like a smart person, sincerely) I just don't agree with the way of communicating them :)
      [EDIT] minor spelling

  • @pofrof4910
    @pofrof4910 Před 12 dny +3

    It is lovely to watch all the vintage scenario specially those boxes inside that drawer. beautiful.

  • @Tom-Lahaye
    @Tom-Lahaye Před 13 dny +2

    Very well conserved time piece from a time when bicycles for everyday use were still a high quality item.
    I learned my first mechanics working on such bicycles and the nice thing was that you could repair everything on these. Back in the 1970s and 80s you would get most of the small parts like the BBs or the cups they go in, the splines and so much more.
    Today you have to replace the whole assembly when something breaks, and often it is not worth doing that anymore unless you have an high end sports bike.

  • @LFKGooner
    @LFKGooner Před 9 dny +1

    This is history in the making. Much love from Rwanda 🇷🇼

  • @OliverReilly1
    @OliverReilly1 Před 12 dny +12

    Man blows peoples minds by cleaning and servicing a bike. 🧐

    • @christopherbrubaker2070
      @christopherbrubaker2070 Před 11 dny

      It’s pretty amazing that most of the same engineering has lasted so long and not changed much. It’s a modern connection to the past, but I’ve never seen the gear box before. I found it nostalgic and an honorable way to spend time.

    • @OliverReilly1
      @OliverReilly1 Před 11 dny

      @@christopherbrubaker2070 yes, I agree with that, but he never restored it. The title is misleading. This is not a restoration. It’s a service and a clean no matter how much you butter it up

    • @christopherbrubaker2070
      @christopherbrubaker2070 Před 11 dny

      @@OliverReilly1 Oh right, ok I got ya. Yah I don’t like misleading titles either. I wonder if I would have clicked on “ hey I’m polishing my bicycle” though. Lol but yah I can see what you meant.

    • @OliverReilly1
      @OliverReilly1 Před 11 dny

      @@christopherbrubaker2070 to be honest, I would have clicked it just to see the gearbox as I’ve never seen one before like yourself, but I felt disappointed that he didn’t fully restore it, but I also respect he kept the character of the bike. Mechanical restoration would have been a more fitting title

  • @nozbodbubba1739
    @nozbodbubba1739 Před 16 dny +12

    Beautiful restoration, the quality of the components have stood the test of time with little to no wear compared to their modern equivalents'. I see where the German company Pinion have taken their inspiration for their modern bicycle gearbox design from. 🙂

    • @forgottenthings
      @forgottenthings  Před 16 dny +2

      Thank you! Interesting that this is used in modern bikes as well. Did not know about that

    • @kuchenblechmafiagmbh1381
      @kuchenblechmafiagmbh1381 Před 11 dny

      @@forgottenthings The rebirth is quite new, since the 1990s Schlumpf offers a gearbox but that seems to have only two gears so that it's often combined with a gear hub, but seems to be mostly used on recumbent bicycles (Liegeräder).
      And Pinion began around 2006 but the first gearbox was introduced in 2011.
      Similar to the Rohloff Speedhub it also seems to be very pricey, couldn't find exact figures, but the 12-speed C1.12 seems to cost around a thousand bucks, I got a Gudereit Bike with that transmission leased since August and with a MSRP of 3000€ it was seemingly one of the cheapest bikes that use Pinion.
      I guess compared to that a full Shimano XT 12-speed kit (crank, chain, rear derailleur, cassette, shifter) won't cost you more than 500 bucks.
      And at first glance you may also confuse it with an Electric middle motor by Bosch, Yamaha or Shimano.

  • @solkim133
    @solkim133 Před 10 dny +2

    my favourite part is the "Third Hand" magically appearing at 30:40. Seriously the whole video is a masterpiece. Big thank you for sharing.

  • @DawnUSNvet
    @DawnUSNvet Před 9 dny +1

    Beautiful restoration/preservation of a 100 year old bicycle. Thank you 😊

  • @user-fb1dg8yq3u
    @user-fb1dg8yq3u Před 14 dny +7

    About 100 years. Amazing. Good job!

  • @woopimagpie
    @woopimagpie Před 13 dny +3

    Keeping everything super original was beautifully done. It really pays respect to the life that bicycle has had. Going back to bare metal and new paint to make it look new again is all well and good, and with many restorations there isn't a choice, but I think I'd prefer this.

  • @wojciechorowski5453
    @wojciechorowski5453 Před 12 dny +1

    Rusty but beautiful, great job, you gave it a new life. Respect.

  • @erdalokan8896
    @erdalokan8896 Před 12 dny +2

    One of the most perfect videos I've had the pleasure of watching recently. Amazing effort.👍👏👏

  • @charlesdemey421
    @charlesdemey421 Před 12 dny +3

    I love the way you filmed this. The details you filmed and every step it take to dismount, restore and assemble the bicycle. It must have taken a lot of efford to do it and above all to film it this way. Keep up the good work.

  • @michaelwegscheider8656
    @michaelwegscheider8656 Před 17 dny +11

    What an awesome journey and restauration! Amazing what bikes they built in this time.

    • @forgottenthings
      @forgottenthings  Před 17 dny +4

      Pleasure to hear that! We´re glad our style of restoring forgotten things gets that feedback!

    • @Jerry1664Bnez
      @Jerry1664Bnez Před 14 dny

      Restoring or just cleaning 😂😂bad job's

  • @mansurazeez2229
    @mansurazeez2229 Před 12 dny +2

    This is a 'super' bike! ... beautifully- made and will last forever! 👍💪

  • @Suavache
    @Suavache Před 12 dny +1

    Stunned by the car. At my grandfather's age, he is a very good car restorer. Very interesting video, thank you for sharing.

  • @user-gh9et7yo6c
    @user-gh9et7yo6c Před 12 dny +4

    Прекрасная работа,спасибо что вы есть,такую историю нужно сохранять.👍🤝

  • @danjohnston3422
    @danjohnston3422 Před 15 dny +4

    A handsome thing, thoughtfully and respectfully brought back to life. Very well done.

  • @qbitsday3438
    @qbitsday3438 Před 12 dny +2

    Excellent ! the job looks like the MASKED MAGICIAN !

  • @jluttr9808
    @jluttr9808 Před 10 dny +1

    Such an amazing video! To see the respect of the old (ww2?) tools, work bench, bike frame holder, with carbon 3d is a gift. More than excellent restoration to protect a piece of functional art. I loved how silent the bike was after completion, like a ghost, that's a perfect bike IMHO. Thank you!

  • @Bluepeter62
    @Bluepeter62 Před 15 dny +6

    Good job👍 I am a collector of those gearbox bikes. I have a 4-speed COSMOS (Sport AG, Biel), 4-speed RAPPA (Rapperswil), 3-speed MUTAPED (Sport AG, Biel), and 3-speed ANKER Berg- und Talfahrrad (Bielefeld).
    BRENNABOR (Brandenburg) was another Manufacturer of those Bikes.

  • @TailSpinRCSpain
    @TailSpinRCSpain Před 14 dny +5

    What a strange machine, never seen so many left-hand threads. Those cast alloy frame lugs are over the top. Nice restoration job !

  • @eddiexxxx
    @eddiexxxx Před 13 dny +2

    Without a shadow of a doubt, The Best entertaining, educational and absorbing video I have ever watched. Thank you.

  • @ajmalazad3772
    @ajmalazad3772 Před 9 dny

    This Gentleman's Effort is Priceless To Make This Possibly As Original As It was.

  • @JJ62
    @JJ62 Před 16 dny +18

    Some very interesting design features on that bike. I’d like to know more about the freewheel mechanism on the Torpedo coaster brake, and I’ve never seen that type of gearbox on a bicycle before, that’s remarkable. I shall look into that model of bike and learn more about it. I liked your home-made crank puller too, very clever.
    I’m also sure that there was a lot of pre-preparation before the strip-down, there is no way some of those nuts and bolts came apart so easily with just a squirt of WD-40! I’d have also used anti-seize or copaslip on every one of those fixings, especially the stem, seatpost and pedals. I’ve done a few vintage bike restorations and none of them have come apart that easily!
    But that was a very interesting 30 minutes, thank you!

    • @forgottenthings
      @forgottenthings  Před 16 dny +9

      Thank you! You find more information about that model by searching for "Wanderer Getrieberad". A very interesting competitor at that time is also the "Adler Getrieberad" which even features a 3-speed gearbox. You can find more information regarding the Torpedo hub at scheunenfun.de/explosionszeichnung.htm. The website is a little bit messy, but the information is really good.
      You got us, some parts were really stuck and took a lot of WD-40 and time. Nevertheless, it came apart more easily than we are used to.

    • @caroleast9636
      @caroleast9636 Před 13 dny +1

      Agreed. After many frustrating fights to separate parts without destroying them, I would always use Coppaslip (or similar products) when reassembling. That’s not going against originality. That’s just good common sense.

  • @user-jq2rf4nf3o
    @user-jq2rf4nf3o Před 15 dny +5

    A piece of history indeed - beautiful

  • @all-to
    @all-to Před 12 dny +2

    It's like going back 100 years. It's beautiful.

  • @loganireland3113
    @loganireland3113 Před 9 dny +1

    thank you for preserving the history and not just stripping it and painting over everything

  • @arthurn9237
    @arthurn9237 Před 13 dny +3

    OH MY THANK YOU SIR FOR THST VIEW INTO YOUR DRAWES YOU HAVE SOME MOST INTERESTING JUNK IN THERE
    SUCH AS THE WIPPERMAN BOX WITH CHAIN ALONG WITH OTHER BOXES OF BICYCLE PARTS I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH ! I REMAINED
    RIVITED TO YOUR VIDEO AND ENJOYED IT TO THA END 👍👍 ALL THA BEST FROM FLA. U S A

  • @HanstheTraffer
    @HanstheTraffer Před 14 dny +4

    Beautiful bicycle ...even more beautiful work. Thanks for posting this. Subscribed!

  • @More-Space-In-Ear
    @More-Space-In-Ear Před 12 dny +2

    I love the vintage tools you used, when I say vintage I mean around 40+ year old tools...wonderful restoration, well done

  • @gival2854
    @gival2854 Před 12 dny +2

    I do that with an Automoto 1954 2 speed andle , 200h work...
    Great job dude, respect from france!!!
    :)

  • @kevinsellsit5584
    @kevinsellsit5584 Před 14 dny +5

    Instant subscribe! Spectacular. The amount of machine work on this bike really shines.

  • @PaulG.x
    @PaulG.x Před 14 dny +6

    17:50 Tip: If you need to impregnate a felt or sintered part with oil , you can immerse it in a jar with the lubricant in it and draw a vacuum on the jar.
    This will extract the air from the porous part and the oil will replace the air.

  • @iggysixx
    @iggysixx Před 12 dny +2

    Cool. I've seen (and worked on) a lot of bicycles, including one from the 1910s. Of course, also a lot with 'solid state' connections to the brakes (with metal rods, rather than cables).
    Never seen this gear thing before, though.
    And I have to say - it might seem like it's super crusty and rusted, but this is in very good shape indeed. Must have been well maintained over the years, and sheltered from the rain.

  • @Putt-Putt-Vroom
    @Putt-Putt-Vroom Před 13 dny +2

    Such a cool piece of history and unique gearbox. Amazing job and thank you for sharing!

  • @marktalbott3835
    @marktalbott3835 Před 16 dny +68

    I've been a bicycle mechanic for 30 years. On and off. I think everybody knows how that goes. This is the coolest fucking thing I've ever seen. I had no idea this kind of mechanism existed back then. Remarkable.

    • @forgottenthings
      @forgottenthings  Před 16 dny +9

      Thank you for your comment! A company called Adler had a similiar model, but with a more complicated three-speed gearbox.
      Bicycle history is super interesting!

    • @My_Op
      @My_Op Před 16 dny +3

      Bike mechanic (on and off too) and I have to say you're a source of inspiration to me: I guess you realize my dreams, f*cking satisfying to see

    • @forgottenthings
      @forgottenthings  Před 16 dny +1

      @@My_Op Wow! Thank you for your comment!!

    • @wallpurgesnight8209
      @wallpurgesnight8209 Před 15 dny +7

      @Mark - Why do you feel the need to use such words? Are you 12?

    • @Kurt-tq6ew
      @Kurt-tq6ew Před 15 dny +2

      I’ve got a gearbox bike from 1908. And it still works perfectly.

  • @FourIntoOne
    @FourIntoOne Před 13 dny +4

    Good looking, well put together, smooth and quiet, turned out really very good, visually impressive, not to mention good technology. Oh yeah, the bike was good too!

  • @fredrikvanlienden6749
    @fredrikvanlienden6749 Před 15 dny +4

    Great job and a very nicely filmed video to boot! Some of the details on that old wanderer are stunning, the saddle with it's complicated springs, the "W" in the main chain-gear, the bolted rear frame. Thanks for sharing!

  • @user-lb7fs9db3f
    @user-lb7fs9db3f Před 13 dny +2

    Чудо какое ! Смотрел как заворожённый за ходом работ . Невероятное зрелище - такой старый аппарат .
    Огромное счастье и удача что попал велосипед правильному Человеку в правильные Руки .
    What a miracle ! I watched as if fascinated by the progress of the work . It 's an incredible sight - such an old device .
    It is a great happiness and luck that the bike got into the right Hands for the right Person.

  • @christianmontagx8461
    @christianmontagx8461 Před 11 dny +1

    Thanks for showing us the passion and love you put into restoring high-tech of the last century to keep it alive and convert it into living history. It shows that our ancestors didn't life in caves hundret years ago :) Good work. I don't understand the over 3500 negative votes.

    • @christianmontagx8461
      @christianmontagx8461 Před 11 dny

      Wanderer, another east-german bike producer that went insolvent in the 2005-2010. "Ein Schelm, der da böses denkt..."

    • @forgottenthings
      @forgottenthings  Před 11 dny

      Thank you!😊

  • @giangipoli3760
    @giangipoli3760 Před 13 dny +5

    I like so much how you have managed to preserve the signs of time on this nice bike. Very different from the restorations you often see around here, that destroys everything to get just a fake new.

  • @HermanOtto-wr2nn
    @HermanOtto-wr2nn Před 17 dny +4

    Witam z Polski piękny rower łącznie z super pracą , to nie sztuka wypolerować elementy ma tak być jak obecnie zachowana starość trzeba to czuć pozdrawiam oczywiście zostawiłem łapkę w górę miłego dnia

  • @user-qd7ok7fu7i
    @user-qd7ok7fu7i Před 13 dny +2

    Восстановить так как он есть в быту того времени. Это просто потресающи. 👏👏👏

  • @peeps124
    @peeps124 Před 13 dny +1

    What a beautifully made machine, it must have been a quality bicycle in its day. Great work conserving it!

  • @iraqisonic9920
    @iraqisonic9920 Před 14 dny +3

    أنا مشترك جديد من العراق واحب اعمالك

  • @user-xh5kx4mi1h
    @user-xh5kx4mi1h Před 16 dny +4

    думаю такой экземпляр после реставрации стоит тысяч 5 евро?

    • @johanjanssens4530
      @johanjanssens4530 Před 15 dny +1

      Ya dumaiou 15.000

    • @user-xh5kx4mi1h
      @user-xh5kx4mi1h Před 15 dny

      @@johanjanssens4530 нееее, 15.000 дорого, может и 5.000 дорого. Пусть автор раскроет тайну.

    • @forgottenthings
      @forgottenthings  Před 15 dny

      More like around 2000 euro

  • @humungusfungus6861
    @humungusfungus6861 Před 13 dny +1

    Genial!! Tolles Ergebnis, die Basis ist natürlich auch klasse!! Schöne Werkstatt!!

  • @warthogoftheyear
    @warthogoftheyear Před 12 dny +2

    What an amazing work, man!
    Can't decide the video cutting, or the restoration is the more perfect thing.
    I am also amazed by your vintage tools, boxes, sets of parts, furnitures. It really brought me back to the '30s.
    This was the first restoration video that i was watching from the first to the last second.
    Thanks for the experience, greetings from Hungary!
    Subscribed for sure...

  • @c.k.e.n.T.u.k
    @c.k.e.n.T.u.k Před 15 dny +4

    Хм, а мне эта КПП нравится больше, чем современные системы)

    • @user-gx7qo2fi7x
      @user-gx7qo2fi7x Před 12 dny

      И тяжелее это всё на 20 кг.

    • @dmitriyminor4875
      @dmitriyminor4875 Před 10 dny

      Судя по всему Вы разбираетесь в вопросе, я правильно понял, что тут основной режим это прямая передача, а при переключении зацепляется 4я шестерня и получается понижающий редуктор?)

    • @c.k.e.n.T.u.k
      @c.k.e.n.T.u.k Před 10 dny

      @@dmitriyminor4875 , судя по видео - да: прямая + понижающая.

    • @c.k.e.n.T.u.k
      @c.k.e.n.T.u.k Před 10 dny

      @@user-gx7qo2fi7x , а что не на полтонны сразу? :) Норм всё с весом. + ещё и так основательно, что сломать очень постараться нужно.

    • @user-gx7qo2fi7x
      @user-gx7qo2fi7x Před 9 dny

      @@c.k.e.n.T.u.k Передёргивать не надо. Этот железный драндулет с фарой от мопэда и весом как у мопэда.

  • @sidneyalves1556
    @sidneyalves1556 Před 8 dny +2

    what an incredible video! high quality resolution. incredible tools.

  • @volodymyrbabenko5594
    @volodymyrbabenko5594 Před 13 dny +1

    Just an amazing restoration, high-quality retro, I have never seen such a speed switch in my life. The quality is beyond praise!