Tiger 59' in World of Warships Legends 4K
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- čas přidán 11. 07. 2024
- The Tier 6 Premium British light cruiser Tiger 59' is here now in Legends and some might be curious how she stacks up to the other T6 ships. Check out this build guide, gameplay breakdown, and stats comparison to see if Tiger 59' is worth bringing to you port!
-Derka NA CC
Intro song: DJ Spyroof - Wonderland
• DJ Spyroof - Wonderland
0:00 - Intro
1:10 - Set Up
2:10 - Ship Stats
6:29 - Gameplay with Examples
9:10 - My Opinion
BUY THIS SHIP INSTEAD:
• HMS Belfast, Still Wor...
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Apologies if I seem unenthusiastic in this video. I am lol.
Be sure to check time descriptions down below to navigate the video. I would recommend hearing my opinion before buying.
Also, Belfast is currently in the store and is the same price as this ship................
I totally agree Derka, just buy the Belfast!
I love my cruisers but I agree. With having the fiji as a TT ship already, there is no point to this. Tallinn is king
Hey Derka, good video, watched Hipper's video already and he gives a big thumbs down on this one. No fun. Oh well, maybe the next one. Got Belfast and she is a beauty.
@@donbrooker3837 enjoy Belfast!
First of all: Thank you very much for giving this ship a fair chance! 👍 Unlike other CCs, you didn't prejudice the Tiger '59 by simply adopting the PC player community's opinion or the so called "common opinion". I really appreciate that.
Coming to my personal opinion... I absolutely LOVE the Tiger '59! 🐯👍 It's one of my favourite ships in the entire game. I usually play a lot of British cruisers and even though I've never been a fan of Minotaur, I was curious about Tiger since the first announcement and bought her on the day she appeared in the shop.
Minotaur turrets, smoke, radar, good heal... She's got the full package! 😁 I didn't focus on concealment, but on a more agile build, which works out fine for me. I enjoyed two of my best rounds ever with this ship. One with "Kraken released" and the other with 140k+ damage. Everything is possible with Tiger. And believe me: I'm not a good or experienced cruiser player. So I would not agree on the "high skill floor"... 😉 I've got much more problems with Belfast. 😅
Good info and well informed opinion. Thanks for sharing!
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I’ve been having lots of fun in this ship. I run Jellicoe with Mikawa and Swerzki as inspirations and it’s been a blast. An agile build works great on this too. But I tend to play it more with my concealment build.
Glad you enjoy it! The stealth is very nice
A well know fact is that the importance of Aviation on land and out at sea grew each year during World War II. In response to the rising threat, it was natural for the British Navy to be lightly concerned about improving the anti-aircraft defenses of their cruisers. At the same time, the Admiralty no longer wanted to build specialized AA defense Cruisers armed with dual-purpose light guns. The only logical way out of that situation was to create dual-purpose large caliber guns that would be effective against both surface and air targets.
The British managed to accomplish that after the war, and it was decided to install new 152mm dual-purpose automated guns on several light Minotaur-class cruisers that had been laid down between 1941-43. However, work on these ships was continuously delayed, and the decision to finish construction of three cruisers using a new project was made in 1954. Five years later, light cruiser Tiger named Tiger '59 in PC (Legends now) entered service in Great Britain's Royal Navy.
Seems like she would be obsolete by the time she was finished. Missle tech came out around then!
@@DerkaGames That's what made the navy boring after the 50s
That was possibly the calmest “this sucks” video I’ve ever seen. Made me laugh. Good review, as always. Fingers crossed I don’t get the St. P day cammo for her in a Pot of Gold… then I’ll be compelled to buy it. Is that weird? That feels weird.
🤣 i would be so pissed....but yeah I'd feel compelled to buy it too if that happend
Utility is key for this ship and if I had to buy her, I’d set her up as a AA/concealment/radar cruiser. Her 8.5km radar range is very good and while her AA is decent, it’s nothing to snuff at. Smoke screen is a huge help, given how fragile this ship is, which also doesn’t hurt to use “Fulgosi” for inspiration to help increase that smoking screen deployment time. While not the best ship in the hands of novices, she can be a huge asset in the hands of an experts. I’ve already bought her “lucky” camo, in the event that some how I buy a random crate with her in it, I at least have a good camo to show off, better to have it and not need it. It a crime shame that there isn’t a commander with a base trait that increases the radar range and duration by 5%, a commander like that could make this ship a terrifying foe to any destroyers lurking in bases for quick capture.
I think Hot rod increased duration. But yeah, good point that would be awesome if one of them increased range!
@@DerkaGames Funny, I just recently recorrected another individual on that same commander. Hot Rod's base trait is -10% radar reload time, its only in his skills that allows an increase to radar. I'm referring to a commanders base trait, not the skill setup. There is no commander with this specific base trait in the game.
Thanks for the info, missed out on that commander!
Yeah, sure sure looks like the future less sold ship of all time, in this game. Every other premium ship of the tier seems to have something over her.
I bet we will be seeing her a lot as a gift in crates...
Good video as usual. Great to see team mates help you get good content.
I don't have Abruzzi....but even Abruzzi is probably better?
Indianapolis and Gorizia, ships that are also not the EASIEST to play, I would take over Tiger any day of the week
@@DerkaGames at least in all of those you can do something usefull with a concealment build, be it stealth torping, radaring or plain and simple laser firing.
I own the Gallant sir. Nothing will be less sold than that.
Your vids are great. I watched the Belfast video to be sure if I really wanna buy it. In the end it was worth it, 2 games=1million credits, thx
I bought the Belfast as well this time around and got the green camo and commander guide decked out great ship!
Yeeeaaah Tiger is like Belfast from Wish.com.
hard to belive they're the same price
I love British cruisers and I like difficult ships, can't see me having fun with this one tho. Thanks for the review
Could not agree more!
Great review and after having played a fair few games in this myself, I'd completely agree with your assessment. Without torpedoes and sonar and with sides this delicate, its no good up close and its too inaccurate/difficult to aim to be a long range sniper. Mid range support using cover though? This thing can shine, using its good agility and radar to ambush distracted opponents. The AA is also fantastic and very relevant in the current meta. Friendly bbs will really appreciate you being within 5km!
I do like the AA but find myself annoyed at Talinn having more AA firepower at T6. LOL. Cant seem to get over Talinn.
I mean the heals are great, and there are other cool features. But very hard to play solo and definitely lacks any ability to carry! I would most certainly enjoy Belfast, Fiji, and even Leander over her
I do agree that this ship could use at least one rack of 4 torpedo launchers per side. It would be nice for the radar ambushes in my concealment build but oh well. It’s like a Friesland with a citadel. Fun ship
I prefer Cheshire. No one uses that ship, it’s awesome
I Prefer Danae over Tiger tbh
Ew no way Danae is scrap metal at the bottom of the barrel
@@grisben 😂
I know that by the time this ship was launched traditional deck launched torpedoes we're gone in favor of wireguided/homing torpedoes or air launched from a helicopter but a ship of this design really needs something other than just 4 guns similar to how fast Friesland has been powercrept or how easily Friesland can be countered
Never lost a 1v1 fight with Friesland personaly, its my favorite dd and one i don't wanna met on the seas with another dd
It definitely sucks being rushed while in a Friesland, no torps life is a hard, skittish life. But damn… it’s fun.
You are 100% right on the Tiger though, this ship needs something else.
@@aproudbaguette3605 I've lost ddvsdd fights against some sneaky Frieslands but more recently the ones I've seen pick fights with cruisers and battleships and get spanked when the bigger shi pushes the dps is great but without torps keeping brave people at a distance you can't do much
Made it in the vid, let's gooo
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DD division Hunter like the Fiji probably be best. Think you are right.
Well its a Tiger, not because of the dangerous claws, not because of its deadly fangs, not because of its sheer power, but because its literally one of the most unsuccesfull predator in the animal kingdom 🐅🐯
Flandre 🍷🥖
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Sometimes is hard to know if you recommend or not a ship.
We would love if you were a bit honest.
Like for example (you could grade ships from 1 - 10, or at the beginning explain why you don't like or recommend the ship).
On this review I felt like you had mixed feelings.
Like a part of you was trying to recommend it, while the other part said at the end "No, don't do it"
I really liked your video, and hope to see more of you in the future!
But try to be a little more shap/honest, people loves that
I went back and watched the video after reading this comment. Beginning at 09:15 I very much lay out my honest opinion. I would NOT recommend causal players to buy her. It is a difficult ship to play, and there are better free options that offer more fun game play (Fiji, Edin, Mino) as well as Belfast for the same exact amount of money.
I assure you there were no mixed feelings haha. I dislike Tiger 59', However I want my viewers to use some critical thinking. Look at the charts, hear the stats, watch how she plays, and decide for yourself if the ship looks good/fun in comparison to other ships at the tier. Rather than me spoon feeding a rating.
I really really appreciate the feedback, I will use it in future reviews. Thank you.
Great video as always Derka. Think I'll pass on this one. Just out of interest, where did you get that chart with the ricochet angles from?
World of warships wiki, you can google penetration values and it'll bring up the wiki
Mr Hipper did have something to say about that..he said sell this piece of 💩🤣
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This ship is blessed. It's a team support ship but has my highest win rate in ranked. It just seems to pull good teams.
Even if her firepower isn't great, 40 seconds of radar is pretty intimidating on cap contests.
She's so much smaller and more nimble than the other tech tree UK CL. It makes peaking around islands or dodging torps so much easier.
Regarding the AP vs angling...most of the time this doesn't apply because your shells are falling onto the enemy vertically and, like with tech tree UK CL, you're aiming for superstructure anyways unless you're somehow alive at point blank range where your shells aren't arcing.
Incidentally, as I watch the vid, I notice you aiming at ship hulls as though you weren't shooting at them with AA guns. Aiming for superstructure is the way to go. Even with the improved pen angles, the armor penetration of these tiny guns isn't great.
Plus, since even damage saturated superstructure (burned out by HE spammers) pays full damage for AP hits, you're not losing anything by aiming for it.
Thank you for the feedback =)
And good point about the falling shells, with the shell velocity being so slow.
I guess to make this ship really shine in it's support role it should just straight up get the radar from Minotaur to: 40 seconds duration and 9 km range. Making it incredibly dangerous for opposing destroyers.
I do like that idea but found out on 2-3 occasions that even if I had a DD lit, the low DPM, inaccurate main batteries, and occasional ricochets meant the DD could escape still
This ship looks very overpowered...
WG PLEASE NERF
How are you running Fraser as commander when I hear AL Belfast in the background?
I think 1 game I switched to test her, promptly switched back for the rest of them
Got this in a winter 22 crate...and I'm not impressed. If I wasn't a solo player I could see the potential of her. But with these teams. You end up either wasting her smoke or trying to kite away in a slow ship with what seems to be a massive citadel. It's definitely a great free 10mil credit booster though.
Good review, thanks. I love cruiser play, but this one seems like a pass.
Yessir, hard pass! 😄
My PASS is hard like a brick
I think it may be the best AA cruiser for the tier though. The range can reach out to 7.3K
That's a valid point, thank you for sharing. I usually do not pay attention to range
First, and this is their 6 mino
More like a T4 Mino lol
This thing is literally a minotaur at tier 6
I was so excited, now I’m super sad …..
I mean she is cool...kind of unique. But is just a difficult one to play
@@DerkaGames agreed
If you have Belfast, you don't need Tiger 59.
If you have Leander you dont need Tiger 😆 just fail div up lol
High skill floor? The only thing on the floor is this ship's abilities. Or in this case, the lack thereof. The only good thing about this ship is it IS a tier 6.
Haha no kidding!
Ok hear me out. I have Belfast and Tiger 59. I enjoy playing both ships. But Tiger is more of a dd and cruiser hunter trying play the ship beyond that and you will be disappointed in results. So when i play this ship i got after dd and cruiser youll get citadel hits but if you think you'll get it on bb. It's not there. Three second reload equals to about 16 shoots in sbout 12 seconds thats pretty good giving it only has two turrets. I had good games with the Tiger 59. Especially when people don't take you seriously until you light them up then it's the oh shit ok this guy is playing serious. Its heavily a opinion and experience for me with this ship but i do like a challenging ship because the reward that comes with a good game.
This ship is cursed. 🤪🤪
Lmao yeah. Also, saw your name in a match maybe a week or so ago. Made me lol
100th comment!!
Why does everyone assume agile builds are kiters? On every ship I run an agile build on I never kite it defeats the purpose of the build.
Unsure how I worded my video, but I understand what you are saying. "agile cruiser" and "kiting cruiser" usually get used interchangeably, while they are very different.
When you buy Minotaur on wish
YES haha I think I posted that somewhere so true man
It's a pass from me bro , thanks for the review derka
Save your money and your sanity!!!! Lmao
@@DerkaGames I havnt bought loons since Christmas been running off the loons I got from a deluxe firepower pack. I'm still sitting at just shy 12000 ;)
Thankfully aside from the Weimar hasn't been many meta changing ships (I only buy backing and op stuff, well aside from Christmas, I buy some crates then and whale)
Tho if we have another space event I may buy some out that
@@diabetichamm3776 yessir that's how I operated as well! Occasionally when no one had a vid on things I made some bad purchases, IJN Haruna and Kirishima being my biggest financial regrets lol
Mine is Charlemagne,London,ragnorock outright, but I hate how much I whale for stuff like the space event if it arives I'm limiting myself, Halloween events and stuff like that. I spent WAY to much to get ognovoi just to have it in store a year later
weimar number one!
lol no doubt
Honestly a lot of CZcamsrs for PC consider this the worst premium in the game bar joke premiums like mikasa. Even then I got to give props to whoever 3D modelled mikasa and decorated her because she looks gorgeous. Unlike Tiger 59 which looks like the IKEA furniture design team was contracted to design and build her for how ugly and weak she was in real life as much as in the game.
While it's possible to do well in anything if you set your mind to it. I would rather chew rusty nails until clean then spit them out onto a pile of wood before using my own gentleman sausage to hammer 🔨 together a completely new ship with said nails, my blood and sheer contempt for Tiger 59.
I was going through my T6 cruisers...and there wasn't a single one that I would take Tiger over.
To me it's just not fun at all
Good point on Mikasa 😆😆😆 at least her modeling is pretty
No torps and no HE. I will stick to belfast.
Yessssss, Belfast makes her look like a Tier 3 ship
Hell I didn’t even notice lack of torpedo armament lol. I immediately noticed two turrets and no sonar, that alone is a no bueno for most people.
Two guns and no sonar? No thanks lol
Yeeeeaaaaaahhhhhh
@@DerkaGames the dropped that release after dropping the Weimar, wtf were they thinking?
Here I'll just translate your calm demeanor for anyone else that stops by. EVERYONE THE SHIP SUCKS. Now that that's out of the way, I enjoy some ships that aren't necessarily "good" like Bismarck and Amalfi, but they at least offer something different. Tiger 59' just lacks any meaningful utility. No point in that smoke, radar, or heals if it has the firepower of a straw and spitballs.
Have you ever seen the Key and Peele episode where he is the translator for Barack Obama? Haha you can be my translator 😆😆😆
@@DerkaGames I'd make the perfect anger translator. I'll tell off whoever you need vice commander of the wowsl fleet 🖖
@@Sempergrumpy441 lmaoo yesss
no sonar, torps and just 4 guns .... and people say its OP.... hahahahahaahah
Painful to play... like really painful. I mean I think you could get decent results but it would require everything to go correctly and a great team to help you
Its trash! Makes the Azuma look like a great ship!
😆 you're so right
Should this ship it stinks.