Helldivers 2 is amazing but due to the industry standard buisness practices that have been negative for gamers, I believe this games lifespan is limited. twitch link: / furthestlevell
I don’t think it’s a game issue. I think it’s a human dopamine issue. Our brains are fried I truly believe there’s not a single game out there that could keep any human interested for a long period of time. As I completely agree with the majority of things you’re saying you also can’t necessarily fully blame the game because overall, it’s a good game.
it doesnt help that the devs dont actually play the game, and nerfed what most people were having fun with, i would honestly give up the mechs for undoing the railgun nerf
haha it did. i laughed. i shoulda made this video funnier than i did. think if i delivered these points with more humor it would have been clear this isnt an attack on the game its just trend analysis.. @@katchinska thanks for watching man.
@@FurthestLevellI think this video was incredibly articulate and presented information so well, but the take was a bit iffy, as games like deeprock galatic, and even helldivers 1 have a cult following despite the mission archetypes being similar in each round. On top of this they already confirmed they are adding another faction and more enemies to pre-existing factions. I think there is a point to be made though that it wont keep its concurrent players whatsoever which was the point you were trying to get across in this video.
There's a difference between a game naturally losing it's playerbase over time and a game actually just dying. It just released and it's confirmed there's much more content on it's way.
A game “dying” is just such a stupid concept, only really applies when like server plugs are pull for some multiplayer titles. So long as the game is playable in some form or another that game will still have life. HD1 was still adding content like 6 years plus after launch, arrow head is certainly in it for the long haul
Sort of a pointless video. The game is in its infancy and it's so easy to see how they can expand on quests and even game modes without too much effort. Heck the AI just got a massive tuning buff, meaning very few even play on 7+ diff now. The ground concept is solid and argueably revolutionary yet with zero pay to win aspects. Saying it's doomed to fail just around the corner is no diff than the proverbial village nut yelling the end is nigh.
Thank you I swear these CZcamsrs are dumb like the game came out feb 8.. it’s March 8 the game has literally just hit a month old can the game learn to crawl before u screaming at it to run godlee
Exactly. In my opinion, the game kills destiny's concept of missions. Hell divers doesn't even need raids to keep It fun. There is so much potential. Plus It's unwise to to think you figured a game out when this is history in the making. We've never seen anything like this happen before with a game like hell divers, It's going to be up there in the history books for sure.
Would you consider Deep Rock Galactic dead? I understand that our CZcamsr here is losing interest. That happens. I love HD2 but I know some day I'll leave it. But I think the game has the power to cultivate a following. People who will stay and play and comeback for big updates. Look at stuff like deep rock. Warframe. Overwatch even. Games that have been around for a long time and still have concurrent players. The hype will die down yes. But I have faith Helldivers won't die. Just like the first game that had a devoted following for a long time.
@@designdiario4324 if you really think the railgun and shield pack alone turned players into a "one man army" you're very wrong...yes they were strong but saying they could kill waves of bugs or even automatons with the railgun alone easily is an overstatement
you do the same thing every game and its really fun but not gonna last. New weapons and strategems not gonna solve the issue. Its easy to see that. So hopefully they have new gameplay content planned like big boss fights. It needs better progression too as a live service game, ive been max for 2 weeks now. Those are the main things that make live service games last, look at the successful ones.
The game itches spots no other of this type does, has a strong dev team behind it, and a community, which may decrease in size as the automatons get to them, but will likely stay invested and supportive. The monetization makes the game sustainable, but not a P2W cash grab. It's been a long time since I've bought a game so close to launch (last time was Homeworld Remastered).
You're entitled to your opinion, but I have a feeling this video might age like milk. You're not wrong. In some senses, all games come to an end eventually, but with the devs being super transparent, bug fixes and balance patches coming out super fast, and two major content drops in just over a month of its life, this game is set to be around for a long time.
Feels really early and click-baity (I clicked for the drama and thumbnail since I hadn't heard this take yet) considering the player base it is still at and people who still haven't grabbed the game.
Watched this thinking the exact same thing. Unfortunately for his video, not even 24 hours later mechs are in the game and, in my opinion, executed extremely well. I've used them a couple times today and they feel extremely powerful (as they should) but are very finite in ammunition. Every game dies eventually and I'm sure I'll eventually be disappointed in where the game goes, as that seems to be how it goes whenever I find something I like. But, for the time being, I literally cannot wait to see what they add.
@@IRMentat same with major weather effects, recolors are also coming so more customization! a new battlepass, a new faction is being developed, new enemies are being developed too on existing factions.
Regarding the server issue: so we not gonna talk about the fact that they expected like 50,000 across all platforms max, accomodated for THAT, and got like 10 times that? And were reasonably freaking out about it? Because I feel like that's an important point rather than implementing some 4-D chess business strategy.
This was a terrible take all around. Every statement of fact was just a point in fact from one perspective that is speculative at best. The rest was just total bs. We all know that guy that is a pessimist about everything just so he can be the first to have an I told you so. Even if he’s batting .005 at best. Play the game, don’t play the game. It’s not gonna die for a good while that’s for sure. As long as they don’t go full destiny with it they’ll be good.
You do know they've announced more factions, stratagems, weapons, etc, right? Claiming that there's no new content when it just came out about a month ago, and saying that this game has dropping numbers without showing the statistics, shows me that you're just tired of the game and want to talk it down. Very undemocratic. I can feel the automaton aura behind the keyboard. This broadcast must be stopped.
true its not fair to say the game has no content at this point and specially now that thet added the exosuits and increased the level required to unlock everything
I dont think the game will "die" as long as they add more. I think it will be a lot like Palworld and Lethal Company. Massive at launch but eventually some players will just move on. But I have plenty of friends who are still very much active on Palworld and Lethal Company. Sure of you compare peak players to current players its much lower but still far from dead. I think something Helldivers has that those two games don't is re playability. Sure it's the "same" mission but it never really feels like that to me. Its a game thats easy to learn but hard to master. I have most everything unlocked and still when I play on Helldivers difficulty I find myself still really struggling to finish a mission. I also think the world building around that game helps. All of the player made content on the game, like the guy who runs a news channel to try and help direct players to planets in need of help as well as give out information on upcoming content in a sort of in universe setting is so much fun! I absolutely agree that in a month the numbers will probably drop pretty dramatically, HOWEVER when you are at the hights they are at. Even a dramatic drop still leaves a LOT of players left
What we lost 5% of the players? What game can say that a month+ in... After a freaking AMAZING start, exceeding all expectations, without any marketing. Also wouldn't surprise me if the player base goes up again with the new warbond/mechs. It's also not hard to see how they can add stuff with weapons, stratagems, nades, new missions, new factions, new monsters per factions, harder difficulty, mixing several factions on 1 planet. And people are having a damn fun time BEFORE all that's added. Just nades alone, gas nades, flash nades, arc nades, invis nades, "boop" nades, cluster nades. That's just some simple nade examples. The potential to add stuff is absolutely massive and doesn't seem that hard imo. Hell I didn't think I would like the game. I'm a pvp guy. Absolutely no regrets here, think what they did is awesome for a great price with no bs transactions and a huge potential/upside. I also dont really see much competition. When Im looking for a pvp shooter I got a million choises. What compares to helldivers? I cant really think of anything
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the games not gonna "die", the player base is inflated right now because it went viral, the numbers will slowly drop eventually but there will still be a large community at the getting hyped for new content
This is why I've learned to rotate between a few games that I genuinely enjoy to avoid burnout. Like right now the roster, which I'm sure is a lot of ppls, is: helldiver's, palworld, last epoch, Minecraft, assetto corsa, etc. (halo infinite might not be on your's) And I'm sure I'm missing games, and hell, ppl can chime in with other games they enjoy but I make it a priority to switch games every time I get a hint of that feeling. And if anyone else has tips on avoiding burnout then that'd be dope to hear
While I haven't enjoyed the video largely due to the specific use of language, I would like to point out something about its core statement. Helldivers 2 is NOT a solved/"closed" game. They achieve that in several ways - by bringing in a variety of new effects to planets, consistently adding new content (like the mechs that are currently already in the game), by creating the larger narrative of the galactic war (I think every Helldiver both dreads AND wants to see what happens once the Super-Earth sector gets invaded), and by the promise of the new factions, at least one of which I'd very much expect to come soon. Helldivers team has done many things right for this game. And while individual hype may be dying down, as we the players are shifting from the exploration stage to the mastery stage, it is highly doubtful that the fall of hype would be the fall of Helldivers. Helldivers and Elden Ring don't even fit the same niche in gaming, so that DLC release is a really weak argument here.
Honestly I don't really agree here. You're not like totally wrong about somethings, but stuff like the server issues was totally an unforeseeable thing. Arrowhead has been remarkably transparent about things, admitting where they're messing up and taking feedback as best they can. Sure they're not saints or anything, but when they got several orders of magnitude more players than they did compared to the first helldivers, I think issues with the backend is excusable. They couldn't exactly just buy more servers and call it a day, because the underlying architecture was just not able to scale well enough. That they rebuilt parts of their game to accommodate the wildly huge playerbase so fast is actually quite incredible. I'm not sure it was wise to be speculating on the issue when you didn't really understand it, though. But that's just a me thing, I guess.
Just enjoy the game stop worrying about “omg this game won’t last long “ it will die super soon any way “ just play the game don’t think about it. The more you bring it up the faster you ruin it for yourself and then you will actually loose the love of the game and leave it to die
It actually did hit a 4 week low before this new update. Yes it spiked again. I do hope it continues upward. And I hope I am wrong. It’s Clear no one here heard the fact this game is amazing and I love it 😂
Idk man. Im a butt plugger too but this game HAS me. Almost level 50 and the mechs today were fun af. They've announced a lot more content and most people dont get to grind it out like some of us. It's also live service this time so there will be plenty of items added, enemy types, events, etc. as well as new difficulties and level increases and things to get at higher levels like the first game. The game just came out and is still doing well. Already a success for a pve game and they can add new mission types, new map types, etc. Im optimistic but if i do get bored later I certainly have enjoyed my stay.
Doomed to fail? You serious? The first game had a peak of 6k players. Helldivers 2 would be a success if it had 60k. It's already succeeded massively, way more than expected. Several million people bought this game. Cmon.
Looking at steam charts doesn't indicate any kind of death. Player numbers have remained fairly stable, and so long as we have hope for something new moving forward, will likely remain alive. Yes, people will naturally quit playing eventually. Nobody wants to play the same game forever. But that doesn't mean it won't remain a staple in people's repertoire of games they return to. As a multiplayer game, it will maintain some freshness in playing with other people. Not everyone shares your desire to discard games for the next fix of fresh game. While I doubt everyone's going to no life this game to prop up it's numbers, I think a lot of us are going to be sticking around for future content and for the fun times and high action. The game is difficult enough that it never gets too stale.
I'm really okay if they can maintain about 5000 - 10000 players over two or three years. That's much lower than 450k players, but if the game is calibrated to work with 10k players, I'll be happy. HD1 only had like 500 - 1k players for last few years, and it was still fun for core fans, as long as you had friends. Anyway, it's not about whether a game dies or not - it's about whether you get your money's worth of entertainment. There are games with 50 or 100 hour run times. You get that entertainment and you're done. For me, if a game goes to $1 / hour-played or better (i.e. 50c/hour or 10c/hour-played) then I'm extremely happy. Right now, HD2 sits at 250hours for me. So, I'm extremely happy, and will gladly pay for its new content updates because it's well within the margin of
We already know the “DLC plan” all you have to do is glance at the top down game this is the sequel to. The mechs are in game NOW (3weeks after launch and at the point the no-lifers have started to falter/look-around just after a “minor” balance patch that just turned starship troopers into the necron apocalypse, endless hordes rise from the ground beneath you) the next battle pass happens next weekend, there’s a new faction or 2 to add in at some point. More maps, managed progression (Joel watches and seeks weaknesses to exploit). You are ascribing “death” to the natural lifespan of a progression based multiplayer game but Helldivers is in the flush of its youth still and the “rat tail” of a declining player base is sone ways off yet due to the single face it’s the BEST PvE co-op shooter experience currently available and that kind of feature set tends to hold a community long after single player stories are done, MMOs are raided out and loot/meta aspects are “solved”. Hell lookk at killing floor 2 or DRG, both similar in sone ways but still going strong 6+ years after release, Helldivers will likely be no different given how well overall the devs have responded. Bait, clicked. You aren’t wrong but you are most likely jumping the gun by 6-24 months. Which given your profession is utterly predictable and beneficial to your bottom line. As to the server issues it’s already been said it WASN’T a server issue it was a scalability one (40 times the expected player base tends to do that with interactive systems), and not a single major game t for the day one pop surge anymore as it’s often unfathomably large versus the sustained player base there on.
Much of what you teased around the rim comes down to the rate at which players consume the content. I'd finger the whole problem is whether you get joy from solving a game and moving on or whether you like to linger and take it slowly and not reach the climax prematurely.
Anyway, it's not about whether a game dies or not - it's about whether you get your money's worth of entertainment. There are games with 50 or 100 hour run times. You get that entertainment and you're done. For me, if a game goes to $1 / hour-played or better (i.e. 50c/hour or 10c/hour-played) then I'm extremely happy. Right now, HD2 sits at 250hours for me. So, I'm extremely happy, and will gladly pay for its new content updates because it's well within the margin of
Ok since we are comparing to CoD, team death match is team death match each game is effectively the same and their are only so many different game types, just like HD2's missions. But something HD2 has that CoD doesn't is an grand narrative, missions unique to that story point, it has two (soon to be three) enemies to fight that give and entirely different combat feel, their is scope (and Map space) to even add a fourth enemy, be that a Rebellion against Managed Democracy, or a completely new enemy type. Yes it needs more higher level stuff, but that is coming (mechs already here) new enemies are already on the field (Flying bugs!) So I don't think it will die, will it's player base drop over time? Sure most games do, but I foresee spikes during events as people that have everything so don't need to grind come in to experience the narrative and push back against Joel and his undemocratic minions
This guy completely ignored that the game is live service and a bunch of content is coming really soon, or rather have already came. Also what "player base dropping" are you even talking about, the game still hits 400k+ players on steam only every weekend, that's like less than 10% drop from its peak being 450k. This dude just tried to hype his dead channel to get some views not even trying to give reasonable arguments.
CoD killer? This game isn't even competing with CoD, are you just making up stuff so you can pad your arguments? If so I also think that messi will be the next lebron james, makes just as much sense
Every weapons should have its own upgrade tree, options & attachments, and special use case at the higher difficulties, every gun in the game needs its own upgrade tree. They needed to balance the weapons like said characters in a MOBA. The starter rifle should be just as useful (in certain situations) at Helldive difficulty, after you've mastered it and upgraded and customized it (options for attachments) Which gives more use for those useless Requisition slips once you've unlocked all the strategems. Heck, some of the weapon attachments should be unique, rare drops that you can only find when you dive on a planet (with the in-world explanation being they're just shipments and supplies dropped from previous missions). As is, the game is filled with 90% useless filler weapons that are pointless. And the games main attempt at longevity of it being this on-going campaign, isn't working as well, cause its moving too slowly. They are investing in dedicated servers and this overall galaxy map and on going war - might as well have it move along quicker, there should be random attacks on settled planets next to earth, having you fight among city buildings and streets, and settlements on planets near earth, change the mission types and backdrops, rocky hills don't feel different cause you change the colour palette or weather. I haven't maxed out my character level ( I think I'm 34), but I'm already done with the game. I unlocked all the strategems and most of the ship modules, I unlocked Helldive difficulty, whats left ? there are no more carrots on a stick for me to chase, and the base-line gameplay loop isn't that rewarding, with almost all the guns not being fun or satisfying to use limits my loadouts. Those double barrel shotguns you randomly find on planets, why aren't those fun? Why aren't they OP? Give me the equivalent of the Doom super shotgun. Double barrel shotguns should strip enemy armour. If I extract with a double barrel shotugn, unlock it for me as a support weapon. Make that mechanic for a few random hidden and rare guns you find on missions. The goal should be to make ALL the guns really fun and satisfying to use. Flame thrower should act as AOE damage with the burning affect on the ground make enemies AVOID the fire, likes it napalm. The effect it has in game, even AFTER the 50% buff, isn't worth it. When a mob of enemies charges you and you use the flame thrower, it should cause them to back off from the fire damage and scatter. The weapon should have a unique use, burning up a choke point, and really making that inflamed ground fire do damage to creatures as they pass through it. Grenade launcher should have upgrades that make you fire further, or fire burst shots of 3. Liberator should have upgrades for larger caliber rounds, that do more damage. The possibilities for gun customization is wasted. Again, every weapons should have its own upgrade tree and options / attachments, and special use case at the higher difficulties. As of now, the player base is ignoring 80% of the games guns that they unlocked.
Nothing wrong with that I’ve already gotten 70 hours of fun out of a 40 dollar game and will probs put in more time. It’s worth games aren’t meant to be played forever it’s a good game regardless
Lmao new weapons next week mechs are inbound, we good. The game feels a lot like deep rock galactic to me, and I played that game a ton, even after I got most of the best upgrades because it was so fun to play with friends and work together. Helldiver’s 2 feels the same way
lots of games have server issues at launch. And often they take just as long to fix. I don't think that's a bad sign Helldivers 2 could just as easily be another Deep Rock Galactic or Warframe if they keep updating it and the store
The game is dying he claims, just yesterday I was unable to play because the servers were full. This video is nothing, but pesimism from someone with shiny object syndrome. He literally said he hyper fixates on games and then moves one shortly.
I'm gonna have to disagree. I think the biggest issue facing the game is how they handled the balance patch. Agree or disagree with it, it was divisive and the way the staff at Arrowhead talked down to their customers was pretty shitty. Personally, I agree with the balance changes for the most part. But the game is in a buggier, less playable state than it was in previously, and it's starting to make me unwilling to play. Then I look at the way Arrowhead is high on their success and sniffing their own farts like they can do nothing wrong, and I just go do other shit instead.
Still not gonna watch the rest of the video but I'll give you some more algo fuel just for the ratio I am seeing to grow. 5 reasons your title alone is wrong 1) Even if the industry does react as we all want and reverse course on these terrible business practices that'll take time 2) The first game which has been around since roughly if not before the time Pokemon Go dropped was possibly just now shut down (I haven't even bothered to look into whether they did or not I just know Super Earth was lost) 3) Meme staying power coupled with current day politics makes the game setting/world relevant 4) The devs still say we are in the learning stages. There is still SOOOOOO much over the horizon that I barely see and I only see some of that due to playing the first game 5) It is fucking fun. People are truly enjoying it for the game play and while a big part of the discussion is the live-service done right that wouldn't even matter if the game was shit, it isn't and I would even feel comfortable saying numbers provide evidence that it is being enjoyed, therefore objectively good as the desired result was achieved, and then that expectation was shattered beyond what they thought possible. Gamers don't tolerate shit games from companies and devs that are unknown to them. They will tolerate it from established long running series and IPs, Call of Duty or anything Star Wars are good examples of this.
Oh look a small youtuber that didnt blow up from helldivers 2 content claiming the game is dead because hes bored of it. Tell that to the 400k plus people playing everyday
"this game will fail in a month because of these several theories that i myself have named. Its too fun and the literal instant that players get to the end they will throw it into the sun and go play elden ring for 2000 hours because it doesnt suffer from the problems that i made up earlier"
Fail is completely the wrong word, sony and arrowhead have a massive profit spike out the gate, obviously the drop off will look steep given the initial player base, but they cleared their profit estimations by a huge margin, cant fail if you already won big.
Yeah I see that it got an update and am happy about it! Great game. However, prior to this update, it did in fact, reach a player low since its rise and is now, headed back to that low. However, I’m unphased by this now because Even if it dies for a while, if it gets new life at any point, I still won’t receive any sort of credit for my, until this update, spot on prediction on its falling numbers. Kinda like how “propaganda” is always referred to a standpoints opposing side spreading its ideology whereas, of course, one’s own side is spreading an indisputable truth. It is what it is. I posted this at a time the only acceptable opinion was helldivers will be played for eternity 😂 hope you have a good day brother! See you out there spreading democracy.
Thats not what a solved game is. The fun of this game for a part comes from progress but the main dish if fun comes from the matches. There is a near infinite amount of ways a match can go. Sure you do the same things but clearing the nearet small outpost on the same mission type can go very different depending on rng. This would be the same as calling dark souls a solved game because it has a level and equipment cap.
So, in other words, either games have to be ridiculous cash grabbing casino machines full of MTXs, circus cosmetics, hello kitty helmets and rainbow unicorn clothing using timers counting down EVERYTHING, from battlepass duration to shop item rotations so that FOMO kicks in, priced 80$ or more just to enter the game with bare bones content or they can be great full of content without cashgrabs but people will abandon them because they can't have an artificial number going upwards to grind for? People forgot how to have fun instead preffering to slave away, no lifing "games" that simply have them increase some arbitrary number by doing repetitive things all in the name of game 'progression'? Is that it? Helldivers 2 is pure fun. It's very fair in its monetization practices and should be rewarded. It's already past expectations regarding sales and that a good thing. People getting bored with a game, moving on to another one is a very normal thing to do.
I think this is a modern day gamer issue than a game issue. We have become so accustomed to having to chase a carrot on a stick, that when a game comes in and doesn't dangle treats in front of our face 24/7 we don't know what to do with ourselves? What is fun? I am just here to get all the things, if they run out of things then I leave to go find more things. Look at how many zoomers are confused af that they used to make games without cosmetics/battle passes/achievements. I think games are allowed to just be fun and not having to have some new trinket to chase constantly. Frankly it is what burned me out on MMOs like WoW/FF14, the games aren't fun. Its a slog/grind to get the next best thing and just when you get the best thing, oh the next new best thing is right around the corner. HD2 lets me get all the neat shit fairly quickly and just focus on having fun and trying out different things. We as gamers just don't know what to do anymore when there isn't a constant treadmill and that reflects more poorly on us, than Arrowhead as a developer. Even SoE fell prey to this with PlantSide 2. Each class, each vehicle, even each primary and secondary had unlocks to keep people on the treadmill instead of focusing on the war itself. Our brains have been damaged by the dopamine hits we have taken over the last 10-15 years of gaming but when you look back further in the past to games like Unreal/Titanfall/BF Bad Company 2 - these games didn't have a constant treadmill of new stuff, cash shop items and still maintained because they were fun to pit yourself against and with other players. Also don't really understand how this game is supposedly going to fail when it has all ready proven its been a success. With the warbonds basically being purchasable entirely in game, through the game it is pretty clear the developers did not intend to make cash through Super Credits and its more likely they see SC purchases as a donation or was some requirement to be on the PS5. I have had the game for maybe 3 weeks, 50 odd hours and probably only 30 playing and have a little over 1600 SC entirely through in game. New warbond every 4 weeks that never expires. It is really weird the first game that isn't actively trying to bend us over and fuck us for every penny is somehow going to fail specifically because it doesn't do that. The same behavior we will all screech about being predatory from CoD/Fortnite, this game doesn't do that AND plans to roll out additional enemies, factions, weapons, stratagems and upgrades for free as the war progresses - abject failure because it doesn't fuel our monkey brains with enough shiny to keep up with our poopsocking. I personally have everything unlocked shipwise/stratagems, I have all the weapons I care about currently and waiting for new warbond to see if theres any cool stuff in there. I still play every morning before work and after work because its fun. I have met some fun doods from matchmaking just shooting the breeze while we nuke bots and bugs and make an effort to join one another's games when we see they are online. It lets me have all the fun of a PvE shooter, without the gear threadmill of Destiny/Division while enjoying the social aspects of old ass MMOs like FFXI or EQ. Anyway, game is fine, gamers are broken. Rant over.
Games sales have not dropped since it's release (this is not common at all) and your talking about player numbers dropping, are you referring to like the 10k drop in players from peak 2 weeks ago to now. Seems like you just wanted to drum up a couple views with an L take and no data to back it up. Any way, this was my first time visiting your channel, and had you provided some actual data to back up your opinion I might have subbed even though I don't agree with you, but you didn't so, enjoy the 1 view you'll ever get from me.
a month later, mechs (which were already in the game confirmed by data miners) were finally given to players, the servers crashed 3 times by the amount of players trying to buy them. also a lot of theory crafting /schizo ramblings in this video.
I have retyped this comment about four times. I can not put into words my frustration with this person. How can someone be so wrong, objectively and subjectively, yet so confident and obtuse...
Have you played Helldivers 1? The community is the reason the game stayed alive. Also, you have to realise (i would arge) the community for the first one cannnot conpare in size. Having servers be bad on lauch is something of a trial for games now (not saying i like it any more than anyone else). Lastly, the game is made to be completely expandable. Could have more enemies, to different mission types, and ofcourseball thw new weapons. But i cant disagree with is being pretty easy for the game to falloff. Lets all hope it wont tho
Your talking about a game "dying" like it is a bad thing. Peolple still play l4d2. When was the last update. Stop panicing, every COD has died amd will die.
How can it be you experience everything there is to experience when its a live battle controlled by someone else. We are fighting a human in controll of multiple armies. What those armies do changes based ona persons mood. What hell divers has done is creat a game that is purly PVE but is in essence PVP as all the enemy armies are in fact controlled by a human dev. What strategy will they take, will they make it to super earth? Will we have to fight on super earth, what happens if bugs and robots try to enhabit the same planet? There are so many options that can happe in the future of a live war map based game. I don't see unlocking all the content as beating the game, I see that as starting the game. The real good game does not start until you have finished the progress and can openly wage full war with no restrictions on the enemy. All that said, if they don't fix consistency issues in game play it will suffer player loss.
Anything for clicks huh? The game just came out lol. More content is on the way, not to mention just added some today. This guy is trolling for clicks.
Oh wow! A 3% drop in server population since launch! This game is dOoOoOoOmed! Never mind the fact that the galactic war just started, there's a ton of content in the pipeline, no no, none of that matters, obviously the game is dying
coldest takes of all time, honestly it seems like you haven't even read dev logs or applied logic? why would a dev team whos first game peak was 7,000 on Steam expect 400,000 players on their sequel? and if people loved the hype of long lines the Disney fast pass wouldn't exist. Also unbelievable what people call a "simple gameplay loop" cs, plant bomb or defuse. mw, kill people, or capture point. minecraft, break block place block. thousands of players have thousands of hours in these. It's about the little differences in each runa and game didn't think this was a necessary explanation. You have COD brainrot and its really showing in this video. You say it yourself people are stuck in this line of thought...why dont we just try to change the way we think instead of continuing to stuff AAA devs?? And the last thought about the FREE new warbond while hyping 40 dollar elden ring DLC gross.
hi, i am lvl 82 and uninstalled helldivers 2 today because every update makes the game worse and worse and instead of making the game fun and playable without crashing all the time, this game is dying like lost ark died many times before. i like the corp standpoint alot since it makes sense in every way. this game is 40 dollars and you feel that it is. on top the rootkit of the anticheat is fucking my 4000 dollar pc from time to time so from today i wont play this game anymore if nothing changes for the better. maybe i can return when the hype is over and everyone got enlightened or something. sad that this video doesnt get enought attention tho. btw i am also an unvacced kid.... :S
Without a loot chase, it will fade. Also, the constant crashing and errors are a mess. And they've already started with the never ending "balancing". All bad signs
There is a huge population of people that only played COD for the zombies game mode, acting like that information is irrelevant is just wrong. Womp womp bug, nice try spreading propaganda.
“The most fun someone can have in a game, is when progress is an upward noticeable state” - isn’t this subjective since progress is? If leveling up and getting to max level and best items is the peak of “fun” then why do people still play titles like Monster Hunter World after reaching max rank of 999? Fun is subjective and making memories & playing with friends & having epic moments are what fun is to me. This is a bit of a click-bait title with nothing short of an opinion.
Spilt gate was dead in the water as a shitty halo look alike, with mirco transactions riddled throughout. I believe HD2 will last due to the company doing things different, No seasons, No Fomo, everything can be in game (if slowly). I Also think it's no politics stance will help it survive as well as when you log in you can get some escapism and not have to see real world flags.
I don’t think it’s a game issue. I think it’s a human dopamine issue. Our brains are fried I truly believe there’s not a single game out there that could keep any human interested for a long period of time. As I completely agree with the majority of things you’re saying you also can’t necessarily fully blame the game because overall, it’s a good game.
thanks for watching:) i got a ton of bs for saying splitgate would die too. i said the game was amazing but hardly anyone got past the title.
My 3k hours on Ark Survial Evolved would beg to differ
ark is fantastic. love that game too@@joeyanderson6963
My 3k hours in Skyrim beg to differ.
it doesnt help that the devs dont actually play the game, and nerfed what most people were having fun with, i would honestly give up the mechs for undoing the railgun nerf
Undemocratic
Who's his Democracy Officer?
I’m gonna report you to your democracy officer
How much did the bots pay you. Furthestlevel.
This guy needs to put the plug back in and quit talking out his ass
this one made me laugh hahahha
@@FurthestLevell I was hoping the humor would come through and not just sound like a mean comment given all the butt comments you made
haha it did. i laughed. i shoulda made this video funnier than i did. think if i delivered these points with more humor it would have been clear this isnt an attack on the game its just trend analysis.. @@katchinska thanks for watching man.
@@FurthestLevellI think this video was incredibly articulate and presented information so well, but the take was a bit iffy, as games like deeprock galatic, and even helldivers 1 have a cult following despite the mission archetypes being similar in each round. On top of this they already confirmed they are adding another faction and more enemies to pre-existing factions. I think there is a point to be made though that it wont keep its concurrent players whatsoever which was the point you were trying to get across in this video.
There's a difference between a game naturally losing it's playerbase over time and a game actually just dying. It just released and it's confirmed there's much more content on it's way.
A game “dying” is just such a stupid concept, only really applies when like server plugs are pull for some multiplayer titles. So long as the game is playable in some form or another that game will still have life. HD1 was still adding content like 6 years plus after launch, arrow head is certainly in it for the long haul
@@scrapworks1035when server plugs are pulled its not dying its dead !
Only %6 loss of player base in two weeks.
Sort of a pointless video. The game is in its infancy and it's so easy to see how they can expand on quests and even game modes without too much effort. Heck the AI just got a massive tuning buff, meaning very few even play on 7+ diff now. The ground concept is solid and argueably revolutionary yet with zero pay to win aspects. Saying it's doomed to fail just around the corner is no diff than the proverbial village nut yelling the end is nigh.
Thank you I swear these CZcamsrs are dumb like the game came out feb 8.. it’s March 8 the game has literally just hit a month old can the game learn to crawl before u screaming at it to run godlee
Exactly. In my opinion, the game kills destiny's concept of missions. Hell divers doesn't even need raids to keep It fun. There is so much potential. Plus It's unwise to to think you figured a game out when this is history in the making. We've never seen anything like this happen before with a game like hell divers, It's going to be up there in the history books for sure.
Would you consider Deep Rock Galactic dead?
I understand that our CZcamsr here is losing interest. That happens. I love HD2 but I know some day I'll leave it.
But I think the game has the power to cultivate a following. People who will stay and play and comeback for big updates.
Look at stuff like deep rock. Warframe. Overwatch even. Games that have been around for a long time and still have concurrent players.
The hype will die down yes. But I have faith Helldivers won't die. Just like the first game that had a devoted following for a long time.
This exactly!!
Plus games like lethal company still has 50k active users
ROCK AND STONE BROTHA
People are forgeting about Earth Defence force but thats a meme game
@@designdiario4324 if you really think the railgun and shield pack alone turned players into a "one man army" you're very wrong...yes they were strong but saying they could kill waves of bugs or even automatons with the railgun alone easily is an overstatement
This game literally just came out. Take your ADHD meds and calm the Hell down.
you do the same thing every game and its really fun but not gonna last. New weapons and strategems not gonna solve the issue. Its easy to see that. So hopefully they have new gameplay content planned like big boss fights. It needs better progression too as a live service game, ive been max for 2 weeks now. Those are the main things that make live service games last, look at the successful ones.
Game is as repetitive as cod zombies. It is silly how some people are so defensive about the reality.
The game itches spots no other of this type does, has a strong dev team behind it, and a community, which may decrease in size as the automatons get to them, but will likely stay invested and supportive. The monetization makes the game sustainable, but not a P2W cash grab. It's been a long time since I've bought a game so close to launch (last time was Homeworld Remastered).
Tell me your a big without telling me your a bug
You're entitled to your opinion, but I have a feeling this video might age like milk.
You're not wrong. In some senses, all games come to an end eventually, but with the devs being super transparent, bug fixes and balance patches coming out super fast, and two major content drops in just over a month of its life, this game is set to be around for a long time.
Feels really early and click-baity (I clicked for the drama and thumbnail since I hadn't heard this take yet) considering the player base it is still at and people who still haven't grabbed the game.
Watched this thinking the exact same thing. Unfortunately for his video, not even 24 hours later mechs are in the game and, in my opinion, executed extremely well. I've used them a couple times today and they feel extremely powerful (as they should) but are very finite in ammunition. Every game dies eventually and I'm sure I'll eventually be disappointed in where the game goes, as that seems to be how it goes whenever I find something I like. But, for the time being, I literally cannot wait to see what they add.
so how's the video aging so far?
As long as there is 3 other helldivers to accompany on my ship, I’ll keep playing
Also the game just came out lol they will ADD stuff later on
They are adding stuff NOW.
Mechs are in game less than a month after launch.
@@IRMentat same with major weather effects, recolors are also coming so more customization! a new battlepass, a new faction is being developed, new enemies are being developed too on existing factions.
Regarding the server issue: so we not gonna talk about the fact that they expected like 50,000 across all platforms max, accomodated for THAT, and got like 10 times that? And were reasonably freaking out about it?
Because I feel like that's an important point rather than implementing some 4-D chess business strategy.
New warbond + mechs 1 month from launch. I think we’ll be good on content
This was a terrible take all around. Every statement of fact was just a point in fact from one perspective that is speculative at best. The rest was just total bs.
We all know that guy that is a pessimist about everything just so he can be the first to have an I told you so. Even if he’s batting .005 at best.
Play the game, don’t play the game. It’s not gonna die for a good while that’s for sure. As long as they don’t go full destiny with it they’ll be good.
Bro pushed his glasses up before he started talking🤓
Nice try Automaton. But we WILL retake Malevelon Creek. Democracy is coming!
You do know they've announced more factions, stratagems, weapons, etc, right? Claiming that there's no new content when it just came out about a month ago, and saying that this game has dropping numbers without showing the statistics, shows me that you're just tired of the game and want to talk it down.
Very undemocratic. I can feel the automaton aura behind the keyboard. This broadcast must be stopped.
true its not fair to say the game has no content at this point and specially now that thet added the exosuits and increased the level required to unlock everything
I dont think the game will "die" as long as they add more. I think it will be a lot like Palworld and Lethal Company. Massive at launch but eventually some players will just move on. But I have plenty of friends who are still very much active on Palworld and Lethal Company. Sure of you compare peak players to current players its much lower but still far from dead.
I think something Helldivers has that those two games don't is re playability. Sure it's the "same" mission but it never really feels like that to me. Its a game thats easy to learn but hard to master. I have most everything unlocked and still when I play on Helldivers difficulty I find myself still really struggling to finish a mission.
I also think the world building around that game helps. All of the player made content on the game, like the guy who runs a news channel to try and help direct players to planets in need of help as well as give out information on upcoming content in a sort of in universe setting is so much fun! I absolutely agree that in a month the numbers will probably drop pretty dramatically, HOWEVER when you are at the hights they are at. Even a dramatic drop still leaves a LOT of players left
What we lost 5% of the players? What game can say that a month+ in... After a freaking AMAZING start, exceeding all expectations, without any marketing. Also wouldn't surprise me if the player base goes up again with the new warbond/mechs.
It's also not hard to see how they can add stuff with weapons, stratagems, nades, new missions, new factions, new monsters per factions, harder difficulty, mixing several factions on 1 planet. And people are having a damn fun time BEFORE all that's added. Just nades alone, gas nades, flash nades, arc nades, invis nades, "boop" nades, cluster nades. That's just some simple nade examples. The potential to add stuff is absolutely massive and doesn't seem that hard imo.
Hell I didn't think I would like the game. I'm a pvp guy. Absolutely no regrets here, think what they did is awesome for a great price with no bs transactions and a huge potential/upside.
I also dont really see much competition. When Im looking for a pvp shooter I got a million choises. What compares to helldivers? I cant really think of anything
Don’t know what you’re talking about. Change the title.
Please report to the nearest Freedom Camp for reeducation. Quiet compliance will bring a more comfortable reeducation process. Do not make us come get you.
For Liberty.
the games not gonna "die", the player base is inflated right now because it went viral, the numbers will slowly drop eventually but there will still be a large community at the getting hyped for new content
The only game I ever kept coming back to was DRG. This game is like it’s cool cousin. It’ll live on.
This is why I've learned to rotate between a few games that I genuinely enjoy to avoid burnout. Like right now the roster, which I'm sure is a lot of ppls, is:
helldiver's, palworld, last epoch, Minecraft, assetto corsa, etc. (halo infinite might not be on your's)
And I'm sure I'm missing games, and hell, ppl can chime in with other games they enjoy but I make it a priority to switch games every time I get a hint of that feeling. And if anyone else has tips on avoiding burnout then that'd be dope to hear
Bro looks at a work of art and calls it a doodle
While I haven't enjoyed the video largely due to the specific use of language, I would like to point out something about its core statement.
Helldivers 2 is NOT a solved/"closed" game. They achieve that in several ways - by bringing in a variety of new effects to planets, consistently adding new content (like the mechs that are currently already in the game), by creating the larger narrative of the galactic war (I think every Helldiver both dreads AND wants to see what happens once the Super-Earth sector gets invaded), and by the promise of the new factions, at least one of which I'd very much expect to come soon.
Helldivers team has done many things right for this game. And while individual hype may be dying down, as we the players are shifting from the exploration stage to the mastery stage, it is highly doubtful that the fall of hype would be the fall of Helldivers.
Helldivers and Elden Ring don't even fit the same niche in gaming, so that DLC release is a really weak argument here.
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Honestly I don't really agree here. You're not like totally wrong about somethings, but stuff like the server issues was totally an unforeseeable thing. Arrowhead has been remarkably transparent about things, admitting where they're messing up and taking feedback as best they can. Sure they're not saints or anything, but when they got several orders of magnitude more players than they did compared to the first helldivers, I think issues with the backend is excusable.
They couldn't exactly just buy more servers and call it a day, because the underlying architecture was just not able to scale well enough. That they rebuilt parts of their game to accommodate the wildly huge playerbase so fast is actually quite incredible.
I'm not sure it was wise to be speculating on the issue when you didn't really understand it, though. But that's just a me thing, I guess.
Just enjoy the game stop worrying about “omg this game won’t last long “ it will die super soon any way “ just play the game don’t think about it. The more you bring it up the faster you ruin it for yourself and then you will actually loose the love of the game and leave it to die
If you can't hack it, you're free to discharge, soldier. There's always fresh youth eager to dive feet first into hell in your stead.
Speaking of elden ring dlc, hows the final boss?
4 weeks later and it's still boomin' baby. clankers roasted and toasted.
It actually did hit a 4 week low before this new update. Yes it spiked again. I do hope it continues upward. And I hope I am wrong. It’s Clear no one here heard the fact this game is amazing and I love it 😂
@@FurthestLevell I bet you suck the farts out of your mother's pants.
@@FurthestLevellit's normal for a game to loose a bit of players after launch. I don't see the game ever dropping below 200k soon
It passed 1 month from the launch and the devs already add more content. This wont die
Idk man. Im a butt plugger too but this game HAS me. Almost level 50 and the mechs today were fun af. They've announced a lot more content and most people dont get to grind it out like some of us.
It's also live service this time so there will be plenty of items added, enemy types, events, etc. as well as new difficulties and level increases and things to get at higher levels like the first game.
The game just came out and is still doing well. Already a success for a pve game and they can add new mission types, new map types, etc. Im optimistic but if i do get bored later I certainly have enjoyed my stay.
Doomed to fail? You serious?
The first game had a peak of 6k players. Helldivers 2 would be a success if it had 60k. It's already succeeded massively, way more than expected. Several million people bought this game. Cmon.
Looking at steam charts doesn't indicate any kind of death. Player numbers have remained fairly stable, and so long as we have hope for something new moving forward, will likely remain alive. Yes, people will naturally quit playing eventually. Nobody wants to play the same game forever. But that doesn't mean it won't remain a staple in people's repertoire of games they return to. As a multiplayer game, it will maintain some freshness in playing with other people. Not everyone shares your desire to discard games for the next fix of fresh game. While I doubt everyone's going to no life this game to prop up it's numbers, I think a lot of us are going to be sticking around for future content and for the fun times and high action. The game is difficult enough that it never gets too stale.
I'm really okay if they can maintain about 5000 - 10000 players over two or three years. That's much lower than 450k players, but if the game is calibrated to work with 10k players, I'll be happy. HD1 only had like 500 - 1k players for last few years, and it was still fun for core fans, as long as you had friends.
Anyway, it's not about whether a game dies or not - it's about whether you get your money's worth of entertainment. There are games with 50 or 100 hour run times. You get that entertainment and you're done. For me, if a game goes to $1 / hour-played or better (i.e. 50c/hour or 10c/hour-played) then I'm extremely happy. Right now, HD2 sits at 250hours for me. So, I'm extremely happy, and will gladly pay for its new content updates because it's well within the margin of
Nice Foxy Todd cameo at 2:00
We already know the “DLC plan” all you have to do is glance at the top down game this is the sequel to.
The mechs are in game NOW (3weeks after launch and at the point the no-lifers have started to falter/look-around just after a “minor” balance patch that just turned starship troopers into the necron apocalypse, endless hordes rise from the ground beneath you) the next battle pass happens next weekend, there’s a new faction or 2 to add in at some point. More maps, managed progression (Joel watches and seeks weaknesses to exploit).
You are ascribing “death” to the natural lifespan of a progression based multiplayer game but Helldivers is in the flush of its youth still and the “rat tail” of a declining player base is sone ways off yet due to the single face it’s the BEST PvE co-op shooter experience currently available and that kind of feature set tends to hold a community long after single player stories are done, MMOs are raided out and loot/meta aspects are “solved”. Hell lookk at killing floor 2 or DRG, both similar in sone ways but still going strong 6+ years after release, Helldivers will likely be no different given how well overall the devs have responded.
Bait, clicked.
You aren’t wrong but you are most likely jumping the gun by 6-24 months. Which given your profession is utterly predictable and beneficial to your bottom line.
As to the server issues it’s already been said it WASN’T a server issue it was a scalability one (40 times the expected player base tends to do that with interactive systems), and not a single major game t for the day one pop surge anymore as it’s often unfathomably large versus the sustained player base there on.
Got everything in the game and still play it almost all day :D, my dream come true when I was playing Helldivers in 2015
The undemocratic automaton transmission is right here officer 👆
Do you think it will maintain a similar level of players to Deep Rock Galactic?
Much of what you teased around the rim comes down to the rate at which players consume the content. I'd finger the whole problem is whether you get joy from solving a game and moving on or whether you like to linger and take it slowly and not reach the climax prematurely.
always climax prematurely. Time is money
Anyway, it's not about whether a game dies or not - it's about whether you get your money's worth of entertainment. There are games with 50 or 100 hour run times. You get that entertainment and you're done. For me, if a game goes to $1 / hour-played or better (i.e. 50c/hour or 10c/hour-played) then I'm extremely happy. Right now, HD2 sits at 250hours for me. So, I'm extremely happy, and will gladly pay for its new content updates because it's well within the margin of
Ok since we are comparing to CoD, team death match is team death match each game is effectively the same and their are only so many different game types, just like HD2's missions.
But something HD2 has that CoD doesn't is an grand narrative, missions unique to that story point, it has two (soon to be three) enemies to fight that give and entirely different combat feel, their is scope (and Map space) to even add a fourth enemy, be that a Rebellion against Managed Democracy, or a completely new enemy type.
Yes it needs more higher level stuff, but that is coming (mechs already here) new enemies are already on the field (Flying bugs!)
So I don't think it will die, will it's player base drop over time? Sure most games do, but I foresee spikes during events as people that have everything so don't need to grind come in to experience the narrative and push back against Joel and his undemocratic minions
This guy completely ignored that the game is live service and a bunch of content is coming really soon, or rather have already came. Also what "player base dropping" are you even talking about, the game still hits 400k+ players on steam only every weekend, that's like less than 10% drop from its peak being 450k. This dude just tried to hype his dead channel to get some views not even trying to give reasonable arguments.
CoD killer? This game isn't even competing with CoD, are you just making up stuff so you can pad your arguments? If so I also think that messi will be the next lebron james, makes just as much sense
Seems like you were wrong 2 months in and 200k+players a on steam
Every weapons should have its own upgrade tree, options & attachments, and special use case at the higher difficulties, every gun in the game needs its own upgrade tree. They needed to balance the weapons like said characters in a MOBA. The starter rifle should be just as useful (in certain situations) at Helldive difficulty, after you've mastered it and upgraded and customized it (options for attachments) Which gives more use for those useless Requisition slips once you've unlocked all the strategems. Heck, some of the weapon attachments should be unique, rare drops that you can only find when you dive on a planet (with the in-world explanation being they're just shipments and supplies dropped from previous missions).
As is, the game is filled with 90% useless filler weapons that are pointless. And the games main attempt at longevity of it being this on-going campaign, isn't working as well, cause its moving too slowly. They are investing in dedicated servers and this overall galaxy map and on going war - might as well have it move along quicker, there should be random attacks on settled planets next to earth, having you fight among city buildings and streets, and settlements on planets near earth, change the mission types and backdrops, rocky hills don't feel different cause you change the colour palette or weather.
I haven't maxed out my character level ( I think I'm 34), but I'm already done with the game. I unlocked all the strategems and most of the ship modules, I unlocked Helldive difficulty, whats left ? there are no more carrots on a stick for me to chase, and the base-line gameplay loop isn't that rewarding, with almost all the guns not being fun or satisfying to use limits my loadouts. Those double barrel shotguns you randomly find on planets, why aren't those fun? Why aren't they OP? Give me the equivalent of the Doom super shotgun. Double barrel shotguns should strip enemy armour. If I extract with a double barrel shotugn, unlock it for me as a support weapon. Make that mechanic for a few random hidden and rare guns you find on missions.
The goal should be to make ALL the guns really fun and satisfying to use. Flame thrower should act as AOE damage with the burning affect on the ground make enemies AVOID the fire, likes it napalm. The effect it has in game, even AFTER the 50% buff, isn't worth it. When a mob of enemies charges you and you use the flame thrower, it should cause them to back off from the fire damage and scatter. The weapon should have a unique use, burning up a choke point, and really making that inflamed ground fire do damage to creatures as they pass through it. Grenade launcher should have upgrades that make you fire further, or fire burst shots of 3. Liberator should have upgrades for larger caliber rounds, that do more damage. The possibilities for gun customization is wasted.
Again, every weapons should have its own upgrade tree and options / attachments, and special use case at the higher difficulties. As of now, the player base is ignoring 80% of the games guns that they unlocked.
But plugs????? I 100% know you another word could be used to describe them but i digress
Nothing wrong with that I’ve already gotten 70 hours of fun out of a 40 dollar game and will probs put in more time. It’s worth games aren’t meant to be played forever it’s a good game regardless
Lmao new weapons next week mechs are inbound, we good. The game feels a lot like deep rock galactic to me, and I played that game a ton, even after I got most of the best upgrades because it was so fun to play with friends and work together. Helldiver’s 2 feels the same way
DRG would like to speak with you
lots of games have server issues at launch. And often they take just as long to fix. I don't think that's a bad sign
Helldivers 2 could just as easily be another Deep Rock Galactic or Warframe if they keep updating it and the store
The game is dying he claims, just yesterday I was unable to play because the servers were full. This video is nothing, but pesimism from someone with shiny object syndrome. He literally said he hyper fixates on games and then moves one shortly.
I'm gonna have to disagree. I think the biggest issue facing the game is how they handled the balance patch. Agree or disagree with it, it was divisive and the way the staff at Arrowhead talked down to their customers was pretty shitty. Personally, I agree with the balance changes for the most part. But the game is in a buggier, less playable state than it was in previously, and it's starting to make me unwilling to play. Then I look at the way Arrowhead is high on their success and sniffing their own farts like they can do nothing wrong, and I just go do other shit instead.
Still not gonna watch the rest of the video but I'll give you some more algo fuel just for the ratio I am seeing to grow. 5 reasons your title alone is wrong
1) Even if the industry does react as we all want and reverse course on these terrible business practices that'll take time
2) The first game which has been around since roughly if not before the time Pokemon Go dropped was possibly just now shut down (I haven't even bothered to look into whether they did or not I just know Super Earth was lost)
3) Meme staying power coupled with current day politics makes the game setting/world relevant
4) The devs still say we are in the learning stages. There is still SOOOOOO much over the horizon that I barely see and I only see some of that due to playing the first game
5) It is fucking fun. People are truly enjoying it for the game play and while a big part of the discussion is the live-service done right that wouldn't even matter if the game was shit, it isn't and I would even feel comfortable saying numbers provide evidence that it is being enjoyed, therefore objectively good as the desired result was achieved, and then that expectation was shattered beyond what they thought possible. Gamers don't tolerate shit games from companies and devs that are unknown to them. They will tolerate it from established long running series and IPs, Call of Duty or anything Star Wars are good examples of this.
Oh look a small youtuber that didnt blow up from helldivers 2 content claiming the game is dead because hes bored of it. Tell that to the 400k plus people playing everyday
why everyone be saying "why helldivers gonna fall off" or helldivers that like comn guys just enjoy the game and stop with the negativity
Yes Democracy Officer, this one right here.
"this game will fail in a month because of these several theories that i myself have named. Its too fun and the literal instant that players get to the end they will throw it into the sun and go play elden ring for 2000 hours because it doesnt suffer from the problems that i made up earlier"
Fail is completely the wrong word, sony and arrowhead have a massive profit spike out the gate, obviously the drop off will look steep given the initial player base, but they cleared their profit estimations by a huge margin, cant fail if you already won big.
I have a feeling you're wrong, but your video did clickbait me with the title. got me!
Yeah it needs more microtransactions and more Paytowin
So if the game play is already stale, what separates it from CoD? Fighting bots instead of humies? Doesn’t THAT get stale?
As of today Helldivers 2 is still going strong :)
Yeah I see that it got an update and am happy about it! Great game. However, prior to this update, it did in fact, reach a player low since its rise and is now, headed back to that low. However, I’m unphased by this now because Even if it dies for a while, if it gets new life at any point, I still won’t receive any sort of credit for my, until this update, spot on prediction on its falling numbers. Kinda like how “propaganda” is always referred to a standpoints opposing side spreading its ideology whereas, of course, one’s own side is spreading an indisputable truth. It is what it is. I posted this at a time the only acceptable opinion was helldivers will be played for eternity 😂 hope you have a good day brother! See you out there spreading democracy.
Thats not what a solved game is.
The fun of this game for a part comes from progress but the main dish if fun comes from the matches.
There is a near infinite amount of ways a match can go. Sure you do the same things but clearing the nearet small outpost on the same mission type can go very different depending on rng. This would be the same as calling dark souls a solved game because it has a level and equipment cap.
So, in other words, either games have to be ridiculous cash grabbing casino machines full of MTXs, circus cosmetics, hello kitty helmets and rainbow unicorn clothing using timers counting down EVERYTHING, from battlepass duration to shop item rotations so that FOMO kicks in, priced 80$ or more just to enter the game with bare bones content or they can be great full of content without cashgrabs but people will abandon them because they can't have an artificial number going upwards to grind for?
People forgot how to have fun instead preffering to slave away, no lifing "games" that simply have them increase some arbitrary number by doing repetitive things all in the name of game 'progression'? Is that it?
Helldivers 2 is pure fun. It's very fair in its monetization practices and should be rewarded. It's already past expectations regarding sales and that a good thing. People getting bored with a game, moving on to another one is a very normal thing to do.
"Similar to non-Vax kids"...? ... wow
I think this is a modern day gamer issue than a game issue. We have become so accustomed to having to chase a carrot on a stick, that when a game comes in and doesn't dangle treats in front of our face 24/7 we don't know what to do with ourselves? What is fun? I am just here to get all the things, if they run out of things then I leave to go find more things. Look at how many zoomers are confused af that they used to make games without cosmetics/battle passes/achievements.
I think games are allowed to just be fun and not having to have some new trinket to chase constantly. Frankly it is what burned me out on MMOs like WoW/FF14, the games aren't fun. Its a slog/grind to get the next best thing and just when you get the best thing, oh the next new best thing is right around the corner. HD2 lets me get all the neat shit fairly quickly and just focus on having fun and trying out different things. We as gamers just don't know what to do anymore when there isn't a constant treadmill and that reflects more poorly on us, than Arrowhead as a developer. Even SoE fell prey to this with PlantSide 2. Each class, each vehicle, even each primary and secondary had unlocks to keep people on the treadmill instead of focusing on the war itself.
Our brains have been damaged by the dopamine hits we have taken over the last 10-15 years of gaming but when you look back further in the past to games like Unreal/Titanfall/BF Bad Company 2 - these games didn't have a constant treadmill of new stuff, cash shop items and still maintained because they were fun to pit yourself against and with other players.
Also don't really understand how this game is supposedly going to fail when it has all ready proven its been a success. With the warbonds basically being purchasable entirely in game, through the game it is pretty clear the developers did not intend to make cash through Super Credits and its more likely they see SC purchases as a donation or was some requirement to be on the PS5. I have had the game for maybe 3 weeks, 50 odd hours and probably only 30 playing and have a little over 1600 SC entirely through in game. New warbond every 4 weeks that never expires. It is really weird the first game that isn't actively trying to bend us over and fuck us for every penny is somehow going to fail specifically because it doesn't do that. The same behavior we will all screech about being predatory from CoD/Fortnite, this game doesn't do that AND plans to roll out additional enemies, factions, weapons, stratagems and upgrades for free as the war progresses - abject failure because it doesn't fuel our monkey brains with enough shiny to keep up with our poopsocking.
I personally have everything unlocked shipwise/stratagems, I have all the weapons I care about currently and waiting for new warbond to see if theres any cool stuff in there. I still play every morning before work and after work because its fun. I have met some fun doods from matchmaking just shooting the breeze while we nuke bots and bugs and make an effort to join one another's games when we see they are online. It lets me have all the fun of a PvE shooter, without the gear threadmill of Destiny/Division while enjoying the social aspects of old ass MMOs like FFXI or EQ.
Anyway, game is fine, gamers are broken. Rant over.
Games sales have not dropped since it's release (this is not common at all) and your talking about player numbers dropping, are you referring to like the 10k drop in players from peak 2 weeks ago to now. Seems like you just wanted to drum up a couple views with an L take and no data to back it up.
Any way, this was my first time visiting your channel, and had you provided some actual data to back up your opinion I might have subbed even though I don't agree with you, but you didn't so, enjoy the 1 view you'll ever get from me.
Act of treason he has done for him being so undemocratic
I smell treason
a month later, mechs (which were already in the game confirmed by data miners) were finally given to players, the servers crashed 3 times by the amount of players trying to buy them. also a lot of theory crafting /schizo ramblings in this video.
I have retyped this comment about four times. I can not put into words my frustration with this person. How can someone be so wrong, objectively and subjectively, yet so confident and obtuse...
Have you played Helldivers 1? The community is the reason the game stayed alive. Also, you have to realise (i would arge) the community for the first one cannnot conpare in size. Having servers be bad on lauch is something of a trial for games now (not saying i like it any more than anyone else). Lastly, the game is made to be completely expandable. Could have more enemies, to different mission types, and ofcourseball thw new weapons.
But i cant disagree with is being pretty easy for the game to falloff. Lets all hope it wont tho
Sounds like treason
They messed up! I am already asking for a refund due to the way the devs treated the player base
Your talking about a game "dying" like it is a bad thing. Peolple still play l4d2. When was the last update. Stop panicing, every COD has died amd will die.
So because you have a short attention span and got bored its going to die? This is a dumb take
How can it be you experience everything there is to experience when its a live battle controlled by someone else. We are fighting a human in controll of multiple armies. What those armies do changes based ona persons mood. What hell divers has done is creat a game that is purly PVE but is in essence PVP as all the enemy armies are in fact controlled by a human dev. What strategy will they take, will they make it to super earth? Will we have to fight on super earth, what happens if bugs and robots try to enhabit the same planet? There are so many options that can happe in the future of a live war map based game. I don't see unlocking all the content as beating the game, I see that as starting the game. The real good game does not start until you have finished the progress and can openly wage full war with no restrictions on the enemy. All that said, if they don't fix consistency issues in game play it will suffer player loss.
Anything for clicks huh? The game just came out lol. More content is on the way, not to mention just added some today. This guy is trolling for clicks.
it's been a month since your post .. still strong ,, soo.....
Oh wow! A 3% drop in server population since launch! This game is dOoOoOoOmed!
Never mind the fact that the galactic war just started, there's a ton of content in the pipeline, no no, none of that matters, obviously the game is dying
coldest takes of all time, honestly it seems like you haven't even read dev logs or applied logic? why would a dev team whos first game peak was 7,000 on Steam expect 400,000 players on their sequel? and if people loved the hype of long lines the Disney fast pass wouldn't exist. Also unbelievable what people call a "simple gameplay loop" cs, plant bomb or defuse. mw, kill people, or capture point. minecraft, break block place block. thousands of players have thousands of hours in these. It's about the little differences in each runa and game didn't think this was a necessary explanation. You have COD brainrot and its really showing in this video. You say it yourself people are stuck in this line of thought...why dont we just try to change the way we think instead of continuing to stuff AAA devs?? And the last thought about the FREE new warbond while hyping 40 dollar elden ring DLC gross.
hi, i am lvl 82 and uninstalled helldivers 2 today because every update makes the game worse and worse and instead of making the game fun and playable without crashing all the time, this game is dying like lost ark died many times before. i like the corp standpoint alot since it makes sense in every way. this game is 40 dollars and you feel that it is. on top the rootkit of the anticheat is fucking my 4000 dollar pc from time to time so from today i wont play this game anymore if nothing changes for the better. maybe i can return when the hype is over and everyone got enlightened or something. sad that this video doesnt get enought attention tho.
btw i am also an unvacced kid.... :S
It got plenty of negative attention! Lmao I’m looking forward to it getting more views as this becomes the acceptable opinion 😂
Bro they are literally adding stuff every week, how much do you want?
Without a loot chase, it will fade. Also, the constant crashing and errors are a mess. And they've already started with the never ending "balancing". All bad signs
Drink your liber - tea or you will be managed
Whatever gets you those algorithm clicks, I guess.
The first 20 seconds tells you we’re not getting anything meaningful from the video.
There is a huge population of people that only played COD for the zombies game mode, acting like that information is irrelevant is just wrong. Womp womp bug, nice try spreading propaganda.
“The most fun someone can have in a game, is when progress is an upward noticeable state” - isn’t this subjective since progress is? If leveling up and getting to max level and best items is the peak of “fun” then why do people still play titles like Monster Hunter World after reaching max rank of 999?
Fun is subjective and making memories & playing with friends & having epic moments are what fun is to me.
This is a bit of a click-bait title with nothing short of an opinion.
Spilt gate was dead in the water as a shitty halo look alike, with mirco transactions riddled throughout.
I believe HD2 will last due to the company doing things different, No seasons, No Fomo, everything can be in game (if slowly). I Also think it's no politics stance will help it survive as well as when you log in you can get some escapism and not have to see real world flags.
Misleading infos.
Thumbs down. Don't recommend this channel.
gr8 b8 m8