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pyro wearing fattest armor in the game is such a pyro inflation moment
fat/weight gain is not inflation, get it *right*
Group hallucination
@@samtinkle9076someone is personally offended, i wonder why
@@erwins_arm Hmmmmmmmmmmm........
He did this in his old Dark Souls 3 videos years ago. The signs were there all along.
hating on the flamethrower? you have forgotten your origin story
fr the flamethrower is so good rn literally 25% of a tank will kill a charger in like 10 seconds
he likes the inflation gun more now fr fr
@@jarrodwoloslpc2496 Are you playing on PS5 or with a PS5 host, because no it absolutely does not kill a Charger even with 1 full tank. PS5 has a damage bug causing everything to do SIGNIFICANTLY more damage, like Railgun and Arc Thrower shreds Chargers and Bile Titans.
Flamethrower does not kill Chargers or Titans with any reasonable amount of ammo or time.
i’m on pc and it kills with 25% of the tank if you aim for its legs
@@jarrodwoloslpc2496Odd, I play on PS5 and it tends to take 50-75% of a tank to kill a charger, maybe more if I’m being swarmed by a lot of weaker bugs, but that’s a different scenario.
You can tell this traitor never went to the creek.
what a pussy, I went through hell on that planet. I saw comrads fall and be stranded on that planet. Its a shame to see that people saying bad things when they never saw the things we saw.
I was there both campaigns on the creek
Once you go creek, you never leave.
Its amazing to me how he complains about the hulks. Disposable anti-tank coming back in 60 seconds with the donation license upgrade and a well placed headshot can easily deal with at least 2/3 of the hulks, especially if two players have D.A-T. Same to Chargers, just aim for the face and they die in 1 disposable rocket.
If those two players also have a spare weapon stratagem (Railgun, Flamer, GLs, MG[s]), they'll never have an issue with them or any other enemy.
You can tell because he literally told us lol
We got a fucking negative nelly over here
that’s just pyro’s whole shtick nowadays, it’s funny sometimes but like for real he’s a negative Nelly
@@exilemorin04cry about it
that's the funniest roast I've ever heard
pyro is never happy because CZcams only pays him 2 dillar a month
@@spaghettimangamingmore than enough
Start: 0:00
End: 24:32
Thanks man my fav part of a pyro video is when it stops
no shit
uhm akshually you're wrong, it's precisely 10 seconds longer thanks to buffering
needed this
Breaks: 4:20
Helldivers fans when they actually fix the game
Fix in what way? Nerfing guns in a coop shooter with no PvP? Just buff the shit guns instead of making the good guns shit.
Helldivers 2 fans when Devs don't want them to cheese the entire game
@@wesleyward5901 Me when I have to use my brain and the game doesn't stagnate 5 days after launch.
That's not fixing. Look at something like the Scythe. You COULD spend 3 second focusing on the head of an enemy with it, or you could just use something better
@@wesleyward5901 me when i have to use my brain in a PVE game and not use braindead stunlock weapons
4:17 Pyro did *NOT* help with Tien Kwan
L Pyro I served OO-RAH
Wish I didn't have to work would have been there
I saw some guy call in the big shield relay on a terminid planet over and over again and die over and over. Some people just.... don't get it
I did it on extreme
Doing missions on tien kwan and then after about 3 coming back to my ship and seeing 100% liberated was ssooooooooo satisfying
I love how the recoiless rifle is now so much more viable. You can remove the leg armor of the charger in one rocket or even kill one with 2 rockets to the head. Also about the automatons, I feel like the hulk are not the only problem, biggest problem I have with them are the Heavy devastator and the artillery devastator, which both have what seem to be a higher spawnrate than basic raiders. Yes you can kill them pretty quickly with stratagem but I once had a mission where there was basically 20 Artillery devastator and we literally couldn't move from our spot since we kept getting spammed with an unholy amount of rockets, kill one and two comes to replace it.
Having someone with an auto cannon to clear them is great. If you have something like the jar-5 dominator or slugger you can stagger them and headshots kill them very fast if you can manage that, if not, hit the arms or midriff which aren't armored.
yeah me and my duo where getting shredded by the automatons, only on 5 difficulty. Think we gonna stick to bugs with our skill issue
Anti-Material rifle is amazing for taking out not just devastators and striders but even hulks as well. It can one-shot devastators if your aim is dead right on their face but otherwise two shots them most of the time if you just generally hit them anywhere that isn't the shield on the ones that have it. It can two-shot a hulk with two headshots. Plus, the extra zoom means you can be further away where their attacks are easier to dodge and time getting your hits in from cover.
@@serioussponge6416How exactly do you do a headshot to a hulk with the anti material? , because the last time I used the antimaterial my bullets were going through him and the only part that I could hit has their arms so I just swapped to recoilless (Perfect solution for everything).
Skill issue
Hell Divers 2 is basically everywhere right now. Even in my fucking walls
Democracy forever
You can’t escape liberty
@@DeltaicforkYou can’t escape shit devs either apparently
DEMOCRACY WILL CHASE YOU TO THE ENDS OF THE SUPER EARRTHHH
@@LURKTecSHUT UP SOLDIER GET BACK TO THE CREEK.
Pyrocynical when the game about teamwork requires people working as a team
real brother
Here's some insight:
1. People didn't really give a fuck about the nerfs except for the railgun, shield backpack is still the most used one.
2. Most of the drama happened after 5 devs got mad over a couple of morons on discord and started calling out the whole community (some call outs were pretty salty, you can still find those messages on discord through search), creating this whole big fucking PR disaster.
3. It's mostly over now as the CEO (Pilestedt) promised to reprimand the guys that were going over the top and apologized. He's currently the "darling" of Arrowhead team and a lot of the people still hold respect for him.
4. Due to this clusterfuck devs are now looking over into reworking heavy enemies, so it could possible end up in heavies getting nerfed to the point most of the current stuff finally feels viable against them.
Edit for the end of the video: Mech is somewhat decent, but you do need to save rockets for chargers/bile titans and kill everything else with a gatling gun. Depending on how good you are 1 rocket can be enough (blow titan's head or strip charger's leg armor).
I think we’ve learned something valuable from this
1.People need to stop taking a video game so seriously and quit harassing the devs
2.unless you’re a community manager that is trained to deal with communicating with players and dealing with the territory it brings then you need to shut the fuck and not shit talk the fan base especially in a discord of 500k people or use an alt account and vent frustration without attracting negative press to your company
Swedes don't know how to balance games. Fatshark constantly fumbling updates, Valheim being a tedious grind comparable to actual MMO's.... Devs don't even play at higher difficulties themselves LMAO.
Been saying this for a while but this solution also works, we shouldn't nerf the railgun, instead buff other support weapons to be on par with the railgun or close to it. Nerfing the only real option for higher difficulties does not solve the issue of meta builds.
thank you from saving me from a slop live video
Some further insight, including mechs:
5. The nerfs are being heavily overreacted to. Safe railgun still functions as a 1-shot for hive guards (very convenient) and unsafe railgun is functionally identical to pre-nerf save for a damage nerf. Takes 2-3 good shots to remove charger leg armor and is still capable of 1-shotting bile titans (inconsistently, just use the 500kg bomb or orbital laser you're bringing anyway). If you got good with unsafe railgun, you did not feel this nerf.
6. Breaker is also nerfed, but barely, still serving the exact same function it did pre-nerf with the only change being that you can't unload your clip into a horde. This actually allows some other options to be viable and demonstrate their own strengths, e.g. the Dominator, while allowing the Breaker to still exist just fine.
7. Don't use mechs on Automaton worlds until they don't get deleted by every Rocket Devastator within a 5 kilometer distance. It's sadly asking to die. Absolutely cleans house on bug worlds though, which honestly feels nice that it's terrible against bots even from a lore perspective. Still hope it gets a pinch more durable, though, would love to 1v1 a Hulk.
Autocannon supremacy. Takes out hordes easily. Takes down biles easily if you just spam shoot their sack while they walk towards you, one reload is enough. Takes out chargers after you dodge and unload into their weakspot with a mag. Takes out Tanks. Takes out hulks if you hit head properly. Takes out Cannons.
Destroys nests and factories in one shot too!
helldivers players when you have to aim at weakspots and not just spam railgun: 😮
You don't play the game above level 7 do you? Because the autocannon doesn't help whatsoever in higher leves
@@vex080 is that a common issue in "extreme-level" difficulties in games? i'm obviously asking because that isn't my kind of thing but i figured those were always plagued with "the meta", and balancing aspects of the lower levels or equipment in general around high-level sounds like a questionable design choice
idk, i played on 6 until this update put the screws in. 5 is kinda like the old 6 and what i stay around now, but 7 and above always seemed like "get your meta on"
@spacebassist The "meta players" were such a non issue. Literally 3 people complained on reddit about a bad meta group and it got overblown. But yes, level 7 and upwards has major issues. It spawns 5 bile titans and 6 chargers the SECOND you land. At some point in extraction it kept spawning so many enemies that, when we extracted there were 12 bile titan's. The autocannon isn't useable that high up, you have to just keep running, spawn deployable cannons and pray they fix it soon since they did announce the spawn rate broken right now
>Guns get rebalanced to stop players from kicking people for not running “meta” weapons
>Update is called “Bad”
Is Pyro stupid?
he is
he is
he is
Yeah he is
Not really. They just nerfed the railgun and buffed the flamethrower while other antitank options are still garbage against bugs
he walked that title back so fast LMFAO "update bad"
You're clearly new here because he almost always puts a bait title when it first comes out LMFAO
@@betterjonnys181 what was the previous one?
@@betterjonnys181 no, when you upload a video you can set multiple different thumbnail and titles, bunch of people see another thumbnail and title and others see also a different one
I get your point but,calling it a bad update is way too much.they nerfed the guns that were way to strong I think that’s good
you only play difficulty 5 never done a helldive
@@The_Geni no I play with friends and it’s way easier I know you don’t
devs don't even play higher difficulties. that'll clue you in why this update is dumb.
@@kylemetzger9338Nah your acoustic if you think helldive is easy.
@@bakaloid2940 no I would not want to use the same load out every time and have variety instead of doing the same thing over and over and being a try hard in pve
You’re calling level 30 light play? Yeah your profession really is unemployed💀
Before the patch you could easily clear Helldive so lvl 30 wasn't really that hard to get to. Hell last week I was seeing lvl 40 and 50's
i saw 50’s playing with me and i got it like a week after the game came out the eradication missions gave you so much shit for finishing them
Most of the people I play with are level 30 or above, it wasn't that hard to get there and I would probably be there if my pc could handle the game better.
Rage bait title rage bait title
rage bait comment, rage bait comment
It’s not wrong though
People should stop trying to make every game hard
@@LURKTec im hard
@@kingdiddlydee7856 what
@@kingdiddlydee7856😳
Palworld didn't fall off, people just finished the game and moved on. I know it sounds crazy, my fellow gamers, but not every video game is a live service that is meant to be played 24/7. Some games have an ending. When you beat said game, it's perfectly normal to stop playing it and pick up another game.
WARNING: Bad takes from live service shills ahead! Proceed with caution!
people moved on from the game within about two months of it being released or so? that's falling off. it literally fell off lol this is pure cope
@@cr1tikal_arc i mean its not the type of game you have to replay to get all the content out of
@@foreskinman2463 any game that's like that which lacks a very good story is destined to fall off. and palworld is not a story based game, so it fell off due to lack of replayability.
people need to face the fact that it just wasn't a good game. it was glazed because it ""stood up to nintendo and pokemon"" and the devs acted quirky on their twitter, not because the game was actually good.
the only part of the game people cared about was "omg they have guns!!!" before they eventually realised guns in a videogame aren't a revolutionary concept.
People with permanant content brain genuinely dont understand this. With time everything ends up falling into the past. think about GBA NDS and PSP games. There were genuinely some incredible games on those systems, but hardly anyone plays on them because newer things have come out to take their place. Thats just what happened.
To content brained people everything is either relevant or "fallen off" they literally cant even think about it objectively.
@@fraydizs7302 Facts. I almost feel bad for them. Live service games are probably all they know.
The difficulty of unsafe railgun is being unable to have time to line up a one shot
Helldivers fans when the devs fix a broken gun
Helldiver fans when the devs don't fix any of the useless guns except flamethrower and the dead cannon
@@dimyell Helldivers fans when they have to wait for update.
@@Blank-lp4fz You mean the update that just hit, ignoring all the useless guns? Awesome, really got me hyped for the next one. Hope they nerf Mechs this time, I'm actually having fun with them, and with this PVE game apparently that's not allowed.
Crying, pissing, shittin, cummin.
Shootin ropes for democracy, fuck the fans, I'll be in the Creek.
"wahh they nerfed my extremley overpower and versatile weapon that was the best in almost every scenario Waahhh! Now i have to use other intresting weapons intead of the same thing every time wahh!!"
bros haircut got him looking like Toad
My problem is the nerf. My problem is that the anti material rifle does not go through material.
It is not Material, it is materiel, there is a difference my g
Helldivers devs were in the right they should be allowed to be annoying when a bunch of redditors are trying to tell them how to do their job
There's something called being professional, and whining when people don't like your balance patch is about as far from that as you can get.
@@jstar3382and there's something called a shower🙏
@jstar3382 Have some empathy dog. Have you ever been hounded and harrassed by millions of people all at once saying deplorable shit about you and your skill that you devoted to a passion project? Yeah, it was improffessional, but like be a good person and understand that they are people, not just game devs meant to appease you at your beck and call. The game industry is so toxic and horrible right now, yet the second good communicative devs bring everybody an awesome game, everyone treats them like garbage when it isn't perfect. I know this is coming off as confrontational but can we please, man to man, recognize we have a really good thing right now, let's enjoy it for a bit.
For Democracy Helldiver
devs were cooking. skill issue lmao@@jstar3382
Not when they are reddit neck beard losers mad that their OP meta guns are a little worse (and still very usable) @@jstar3382
The guy says "Nerf a bunch of things" they made two guns and a halo shield slightly less convenient while making guns that needed a buff got them.
Exactly! I agree with the "childish" dev, people just need to branch out and realize so many guns are viable but they haven't given them the chance yet.
Helldiver Dev: We just want to nerf the game
Pyro: DRAMA.
This is probably the most stupid pyrolive video that ever existed.
yeah, 18 minutes into this and I gave up actually paying attention because I feel the devs actually want the game to make you feel like you are working hard to earn something, compared to how other games are giving the "thanks for participating" reward over the value of what actually happened.
So basically a bunch of babies (Pyro) who are bad at the game (Pyro) threw a tantrum because they cant abuse their op weapon anymore and have to use their brain for the first time
No, the only viable weapons are now almost useless.
yeah basically shitty players (Pyro) who only rely on op weapons (Pyro) got mad because the game that's supposed to be hard is hard now
I never thought the devs were too salty. I respected them basically saying git gud.
it's funny cuz they say if they buff the weapons they need to buff the enemies, but instead they buff the enemies and buff only a handful of weapons and completly ignore the weapons that truly need a buff or fix, an example being the spear that has a lock on mechanic that sometimes works and sometimes doesn't, but the worst part is the damage, sometimes it one shot chargers and vile titans and sometimes they take all the rockets and still walking like nothing.
70k playerbase for a non-live service game is also amazing.
It's primarily due to different servers. Apparently if your hosting on a PS5 server the enemies are way easier to kill, while on PC servers the game is 20x harder.
Pyro’s biggest boomer moment is thinking it takes a week to get a prestige level in Call of Duty. Nowadays you can get that in a single day, it means shit all anymore.
Bro made a 30 min slop because the meta got changed on a game he played
Keeping the railgun as broken as it was meant that if you went into a pub lobby without a metal build you were instantly booted because people are sweaty in a PvE game for some reason
Everyone says that, but it was incredibly rare outside of maybe helldiver difficulty. Never saw it in any of my lobbys. It's just a cope that people use after it happened to a couple people. (god forbid they spent another 6 seconds to go into another lobby!)
It’s Cod players being the reason to this nerf being considered a “problem”
Literally any meta player is originally from the new Cod games
@@dimyell yes because people should be booted for not running the meta? wtf kind of logic is that? Plus the fact it’s a PvE game where you’re not a god you’re not a super soldier you’re a regular human you’re not a spartan from halo, you’re infantry, having something be so overpowered it completely trivializes the higher difficulties means that there’s no longer a skill difference if you can’t win on higher difficulties without using the crutch weapon you shouldn’t be there in the first place
But then, the game is really hard that only Railgun+shield bring consistency in winning, I still think creating various meta sets is better then destroying the current one though. @@AdamSlander888
Yea anyone that says that is talking straight BS i've got 36hours and never use the railgun i've never been kicked nor have I seen anyone get kicked for not using a good loadout
Chargers are literally the worst, every Bot enemy has a weakpoint to take advantage of. A Chargers butt is a sunk cost falacy of losing all your primary ammo.
The back of the legs are the chargers weak spot.
@@Luciry123 cool, it still takes way too many shots to take a charger down following difficutly 7 and above
Bro why the fuck are you using a primary on a charger? Literally could use any support weapon, because that is what they are made for, killing tougher enemies, spear one shots titan, flamethrower kills a charger with 1/3 of ammo, The arc needs 1 full charged and 4 semi charged to kill a charger and the arc has an insane range
Oh dude, Flamethrower and Machine Gun combo is absolutely brilliant for crowd control of the bugs. You've got the Flamethrower to make sure that you have an area of safety in front of you and burn any of the smaller things that get by, while the machine gun (not Stalwart, it has shit pen) thins out the overall swarm to make it manageable for the flamethrower if anything does get by. We were messing around with a combination of those two secondary weapons, incendiary mine fields, napalm strikes, and could completely shut down an area without needing to retreat when we placed our stratagems right. The most I ended up dying to was stepping on a mine which had landed on a wall when I'm vaulting over something when we did that combo. Only thing we had a tough time with and would need another person for was the Bile Titans, since the flamethrower killed the charger really quickly if they targeted the legs.
I do want to see more arc/electricity weapons which have more effectiveness against the automatons, because I do think that it's really neat that we have all this flame stuff, but it's only effective against one of the two factions and we don't really have an equivalent for the bots. (Correct me if I'm wrong)
I think making the weapons weaker while introducing stronger enemies and other stronger weapons over time would be great. It'd give the feel of an arms race
13:28 I agree with this take, because any dev looking agape at your average power-players and balancing the game around them, is literally the WORST thing a dev can do to a game.
It just weakens & frustrates casual players, while leaving power-players untouched, as they will just find a new meta or exploit to use instead.
Mechs are nice but underwhelming for 3 reasons.
1. The +50% cooldown timer makes it 15 minutes cooldown so you might not have the opportunity to use both mechs unless you litteraly call it in the start.
2. Meteor showers and volcano will 1 tap the mech due to its size, its just gone.
3. It tanks no damage at all. I once got it destroyed by a single Nurse spewer against bugs and 2 little rockets from automaton, rockets that they do fire like over 40 per minute easily.
I really like them, but I guess the game hates the Mechs.
Pyro bad at the game: 0:00
Pyro bad at the game: 24:32
'' Rely on your stratagems more ''
Meanwhile every single planet I go to on Difficulty 7+ will have ORBITAL FLUCTUATIONS, COMPLEX STRATAGEM DEPLOYMENT, SCRAMBLERS and all the other neg modifiers that make your stratagems take even longer to cooldown lmao.
Not to mention that 500KG bomb will do absolutely no damage if it lands just 1 meter off target f.x.
The thing for me about all this is that i played helldivers 1 and the regular weapons in that game felt viable. I personally used the sniper rifle and i was still able to clear the highest difficulties with both my friends and randoms. I think it would do the devs some good to look back onto 1 and see what worked there and if they can implement something similar to helldivers 2.
i genuinely don't understand why people are so afraid of the bots and think they're so much harder than the bugs. The bugs are waaaaaaay harder imo.
A bot drop is easily stoppable, you just kill the bot that has a pistol; they shoot the flare that calls in the bot drop. A bug breach, however, can be called in by what seems to be any bug, and it's extremely hard to stop. Not only that, but a bot drop takes like 10-15 seconds to come in and drop off the bots, whereas a bug breach spawns in the bugs instantly.
also bots are very easy to run away from, especially if you have cover. but you can't escape a pack of hunters or stalkers.
The automotons just do so much damage from so far. On highest difficulty it gets ridiculous
I'd say bots felt harder due to the range attack that they have, and more armored enemy variants.
I agree with the bot drop being longer and actually stoppable. But if you fail to stop it, they drop more dangerous enemy than a bug breach do imo.
And also i think the flanks from patrolling bots is much more dangerous than patrolling bugs due to the range attack.
I'd say i like the different flavor of difficulty that we between the two. And different people can experience different things too just like you and me here for example.
Bots are way worse than bugs. There are 4 enemy types that can instakill you with a single projectile and sometimes you won’t know they’re there until you die which is especially bad on higher difficulties. All the special enemies on bugs can easily be handled by a railgun, auto cannon, or grenade launcher. In automatons, the only two options are railgun or auto cannon because those are the only two where they can one shot specials before they can even fire at you if you hit the face plate
I think the Bots are easier as you can just cover fire to deal with them, however the Bugs seem to just always overwhelm me
You've never played against bots on higher difficulties.
i like that pyro doesnt notice that his editor is trolling him in the editing 😊☺️
You'd think they would remember how to properly balance from the first game, especially the stratagem spam and ridiculous heavy spawn rates can get very annoying and put your team into a death spiral
There's a reason why the poison mortar was the meta on higher difficulty of the first game as it was the only reliable weapon to deal with heavy armor since there were no exposed weak spots
Hey guys remember the Liberator Penetrator? Neither did the devs
I used it was fun but its just not reliable as compared to other weapons
helldivers fans when they don't have the funny oneshot gun without any downside and have to actually use skill and teamwork instead of rambo solo everything kill everything on sight.
Chargers and titans are pretty easy to take out with RR, EAT and Quasar. Its back has 90% damage reduction and was never meant to be a weak-point.
Pyro never fails to disappoint us
Impressive
Very original
so people are angry that they made the hardest difficulty harder
A tip for all divers rn, I recommend when your running with a squad that 1 person uses rhe railgun/rail cannon paired with another using the auto cannon, rail gun strips heavy armor while auto cannon quickly secures the kill, using weapon combos like this really really helps now
@@ShadeHaxor if you have a mic you can still talk to people
@@ShadeHaxor that sucks, I’ve gotten a decent amount with mics, and I mean even if they don’t you can still make callouts and coordinate
Disposable antitank refreshes in in 70 secs at base. With upgrade its like 40 seconds. Also the Auto Cannon, Flamethrower makes quick work of chargers. And grenade launcher supply pack combo is the solo bug killing build
Helldivers 2 players trying not to gatekeep their game challenge impossible
this slop filled me up so good 🤤
chargers are easily the worst part of the game, you have to keep them still for your strategem to actually land but they dont exactly like staying still, so i figured maybe luring it into a minefield trap would work better since it's window of opportunity to land a hit is infinitely larger than any kind of air strike. You'd think an entire minefield exploding on the soft underbelly would be able to take one out, but they dont even flinch. I get wanting to keep strategems as a central focus in strategy, but it's not exactly fun waiting 2 minutes to call one in, only for it to miss or not do enough damage and having to wait even longer to get another chance and having another 3 wander up during that time
I still use the meta build of Railgun and Shield Backpack with Breaker and 500kg and Laser Cannon, cause the Railgun saves my hide from being mauled into oblivion. The Breaker helps with mobs spawning out of thin air, so yeah... I'll stick to the Meta Build that will help me have fun and survive the game.
"mane they wont let me cheese the game anymore time to make 24 minute ragebait slop"
Imagine at insomnia having your sign spelt wrong and having a fan point it out to u 💀
Imagine thinking pyro is gonna read this comment and give a shit lol
Imagine going to a pyro meet and greet
Imagine being a fan of Pyro
@@Whispurerimagine pyro
@@Madaseter imagine
Thing about the arc thrower, i've been maining it before the patch even and i see a lot of people using it wrong, sometimes people are shocked i can kill a charger with 8 shots, the arc thrower may seem like it deals constant same damage on any parr of the body for the trade of ignoring armor, but it works like most weapons, it deals more damage to the head, the best way to use the arc thrower against a charger is to shoot it in it's head, not tail (or ass i guess). Also, if a bug is chasing you and the charger is behind that bug, shoot the bug, the arc thrower would auto aim through the bug into charger's head, overall, the arc thrower is a great alternative it just takes a lot of practice to "use it right" (i should also add that this is the best way i found to kill a charger, there is no right way and someone may correct me on a better way to kill a charger, you just gotta experiment a bit yourself)
I am so glad to see that other people couldn't figure out how to fire the minigun on the mech suit, I thought I was the only one
I love how the game punishes you for relying on your strategems but that's what the Devs want you to do (I died nine times in a row because all of my strategems are on cooldown and the map effects increased my cooldowns and reduced my strategems to 3 )
That is technically skill issue
skill issue, carlos
Thats not being punished for using core game mechanics, thats called going into a difficulty/planet you arent capable of handling. If you cant stop patrols from calling in reinforcments without nuking them every chance you get, thats your fault.
lasers should melt armor so you can use a primary weapon to kill it.
The issue with the update is that they completely scuffed the difficulty 7+ and seemingly everything else as well. Difficulty 6 sometimes feels like how 8 used to be. The spawns were changed and NOT put in the patch notes
i think its a good thing because now people use different setups rather than everyone using railgun shield pack and orbitals, definitely adds a lot more interesting strategies to the game
Redditors when the difficulty even harder than literally impossible is literally impossible: 😮
Paying customers when the game goes from fun co-op horde shooter to shitty MGS.
@@Sheeeshman69 sounds like skill issue
@@Sheeeshman69 Absolute skill issue. The game has had zero functional changes. People said movement was like MGS5, and stealth was always semi-necessary on higher difficulties anyways. Only now you make the comparison?
You're a grunt literally thrown into a hell. Get used to running.
Dude is a really immersive game.
1:12 can we appreciate the "my response" reference. We have categorically gone through the most character arc of all time.
I swear Arrowhead devs have never played beyond Hard difficulty, anything after that is just patrol after patrol of chargers and like Pyro said, the Chargers just halt the whole game because you cant out run them, you have to deal with them.
On the other hand the Bile titans are a fun enemy to fight because they're rare enough where they feel like Bosses, Chargers should have a Lair just like how the Stalkers have, take the Lair out and they dont spawn anymore.
Or the better choice, fix their stupid agility and glitched animation where they slide around like they're on soap.
helldivers players when the hardest difficulty is hard
Being hard to a point where it's not fun and you are basically helpless with no breathing room is a problem
helldiver players when the hardest difficulty is unbeatable because of the required endless kiting of 2 types of heavy armor instakill enemies that spawn en masse because the studio only plays on difficulty 3
@@wafflecopter9296it's not because you can literally just turn it down
@@thebluehat6814There's 2-4 of you at all times (if you're solo, don't even respond). That's at least 4 heavy hitting strategems if ya bring two each. That should be able to take care of 2 or more (depending how they hit) big boys. Chargers don't matter nor count, cause you can just shoot their asses with a strategem weapon, and tbh, you can just make them hit their head on a rock and just run away. I've soloed and played with other people after the patch and we have beaten almost all missions we've done. We are not even running best shit as well, but rather we just felt like. Stop fucking fighting everything you god damn see
@@slyr0980 theres a clear distinction between the game requiring you to soldier trough a difficulty instead of playing trough a difficulty. The chargers and the bile titans are, by themselves, bad game design - heavy armored enemies that instakill you unless you either magdump your entire reserve into them or wait 6 minutes for your drop-ins to recharge on difficulties that are actually challenging. People that say that bile titans can be one shot are, as many already know, ps5 players where they have one fifth of the health pool they do on PC, which is the same for chargers and most enemies. There is a clear lack of developer care and attention towards higher difficulties as they want them to be *hard*, not *challenging*, which are 2 different things. That notwithstanding, the developers themselves are opposed to you playing solo - proven with their replies both in the discord and the subreddit, which goes to show how much they want to appease the gatekeeping crowd and simply parse numbers without going into the reasons why they are like that. Good for you on soloing missions by the way, just remember that not all of us have the same amount of time they can sink into this game.
How to not complain about the railgun, break the armor on the front legs, switch to primary and dump into open armor until it’s dead
shhhhhh they don't want good advice, they jsut want to be angry because game is hard again as it should be on level 7 and above
@@mikoajwitek7120 12 Bile titan's and 6 chargers spawning the second you drop in is supposed to be that way? Funny, because the developers said it's broken and are working on a fix. Just say you don't play the game
@@vex080 is it broken? Yea. Do i heve shit tone of fun with friends when that happens? Yea
@mikoajwitek7120 If u have fun dying a lot and having to constantly run instead actually having a fighting chance, then cool, happy for u. But most players would actually want to play the game instead being oneshot and overun, that's why they're fixing the spawn rate.
@@vex080overwhelming odds are an integral part of the game. Go play the sims.
Another thing they didnt mention in the patch was the fact they increased heavy unit spawn rates overall, it was thing that people only realised after a few games with the devs now working on it.
One big issue about the argument of "Use stratagems" against heavy units is the fact in the autamoton front theres jammers and ion storms that disable all your stratagems completely with there being a chance for two jammers being near eachother blocking half the map, aa guns that disable all eagle airstrikes, - 1 stratagem limit on higher difficulties, +100% cooldown on all stratagems etc.
All of these debuffs are more then possible within a single game making you rely on frags and primary weapons, funny thing is they buffed the slugger which literly makes it possible to one shot any type of devastators, open containers and has good ammo efficiency, you can kill infantry, devastators, scouts and tanks with just the ladout you spawn in as a solo, only problem are hulks which you need some sort of stratagem to kill.
The game literly lets you be a one man army without stratagems while telling you to rely on them and use them, while also debuffing them with massive ammounts of effects and now even nerfs.
They say we shouldn’t have strong starter weapons but so far everytime I drop in on any difficulty over 4 I’m immediately surrounded by enemies within seconds. Maybe I have horrible luck and land near patrols by pure coincidence but there’s literally no time to call in a support weapon. I don’t really mind it too much, honestly it’s not that hard to deal with as long as you keep track of your surroundings, worst part is on anything above 7 when there’s so many elites spawning constantly that you’re forced to retreat and end up triggering another patrol that calls in even more dropships making you run even further and into even more patrols. It wouldn’t be so bad if the operation modifiers didn’t make stratagems so fickle.
Perhaps the point is that you're not supposed to be a one-man army on the hardest difficulties
You weren't even a one man army with the Rail Gun.
@@citizenvulpes4562 Fr this take is devoid of critical thought.
didnt know you renamed the channel to Helldivers 2
There definitely needs to be a balance because if we're supposed to rely on our stratagems that take 4 minutes to get off cd then it just turns into a running simulator, you cant fight back
buffing is better than nerfing
but if you really have to nerf something, then it can help to go by a rule of thumb like... [2 buffs for every 1 nerf]
also when nerfing something, try to also buff another property or modifier than can support it
THE PIGGIES HAVE BEEN FED
Flamethrower is really decent for crowd control. You can set up walls of fire to kill off little guys and weaken bigger ones
It's not helpful when the enemy that is on fire runs at you and burns you as well
@@vex080 then don't just stand there
@@jstar3382 You're acting like you can run while using the flamethrower lmao, do you even play difficulty 9 when you think that thing is useful
@@vex080soloed with flamethrower and arc on helldive, it is actually just skill issue
Bro is under every comment asking if OP even plays higher difficulty @@vex080
This is literaly what I was thinking the whole time after the patch. They took away the "Fun" out of a fun game. The nerf is just one of many things that were not good decisions. Unfortunately if you say anything bad about the game people will just tell you "Skill issue" or "GeT Gud". The games community went from amazing to extremely toxic. I saw that the developers being arrogant was also a big problem in the first game. I wanted to post something on their reditt but I can't because of the nonsense karma system. People deliberately downvote if you say something "controversial" or in other words they get butt hurt when you have a valid opinion.
Facts 🐧
I was a disposable single use RPG enjoyer.
The timing is actually pretty perfect to keep up with dropship spawns in automaton defense missions.
Skill issue
Also your forehead is big
@@ItsJay_Sadly*vine boom*
Helldivers 2 fans getting mowed down because their Recoilless Rifle doesn't have enough ammo for 20 chargers.
I've never used the railgun and yet I'm able to do the last few difficulties of the game without any problems (solo and multi). It's not just the strategems that will make you succeed... it's also the way you play.
Palworld is a mostly single player open world survival game with some set objectives so once the players finish all of those it's understandable that the player count would drop. The Devs even aknowledged that which is very based.
nah dev based bro, def skill issue
Problem with Palworld is that it needs more content. Once more is added, I'm sure people will go back to it.
It is early access, somehow everyone forgets to mention this, baldurs gate 3 was early access also and I did buy that when it was 30 bucks. I ended up 5 years later with a 60 dollar quad a game at the end because I believed in the vision and the makers asked us for our input all the time
Palworld is not anywhere close to dying considering that the game peaks at over 150k players consistantly from morning to evening, with the sharp drops only occuring late into the night when most people are sleeping. Pyro's pretty much just talking out of his ass.
@@uhagi6720it's better than suicide Squad
recoilless or auto cannon can generally strip charger armor easily. Or you can try to flamethrower one of its legs and it will kill it pretty quickly. Other weapons like machine gun or other primaries have a harder time but after the chargering attack you can try to aim at one of tthe front leg from behind and with some luck you can kill the charger.
At higher difficulties, you're not supposed to be fighting, just get the objectives done cause you will get overwhelmed very quickly and go through your reinforcements just as fast...save your weapons if there's no other option and kill to clear a path and get away to disengage.
Helldivers 2 stream WHEN
Helldivers 2 fans when the devs nerf cheese mechanics
thanks for the yap slop I appreciated 👍
Ze flammemwafer is absolutely devastating against chargers aim at the legs with it and you melt them instantly with half of the canister still remaining so you still have enough to either kill another charger or kill a bunch of bugs
Fell off
The arc thrower is still good, depends on where you shoot, so like the charger, pyro said it took 20 but if you shoot it headon its like 5-6
So it does depend on which area of the body is shot, just an little fyi to help
Pyro stating that armor penetrating weapon is op when considered against armored foes, and that you actually need to use stratagems for special bugs, is just saying a tutorial for thoes who didn't play, that's exactly how first game balance went - railgun/laser shotgun for bugs, armor penetration upgrade rifle/railgun for cyborgs, and laser rifle/something fast shooting for sentinels to shut down their shield faster. The point was that you only choose that weapon once, so, if you get overwhelmed with a lot of smaller bugs while running railgun - bye bye your ammo on oneshot enemies anyway, laser on cyborgs - you're not going to shoot fast enough to make up for the penetration, get other weapon for this faction, etc.
Now, the only thing missing for you to understand that is mechs and sentinels (3rd faction) which is the bad point of the game - it came out too early.
Wow, harder difficulty being actually harder? Wow pyro, you're the beacon of logic in this bleak world...
And the dev response was actually solid, the game is supposed to be hard like the first one was. I swear, all these normies coming in on hype while the game is at its worst thinking this is peek, and when they calibrate it to be more like original - boohoo it's le hard now unplayable i want more xp but a cakewalk boohoo. Play the fucking game, it's about teamwork, it's about good use of stratagems, it's about preperation and execution, stop whining your power curve is now actually a power curve because carry weapon that made it non-existent in now nerfed.
That "valid point" brought up is completely negated by - USE YOUR FUCKING STRATAGEMS THAT YOU BROUGH BEFOREHAND TACTICLY IN ORDER TO DEAL WITH BIGGER THREATS. What, so fucking hard to understand that if throwing only scissors isn't working - you need to start using paper or rock? All i see is just normies whining the game isn't normie enough to be just a l4d2 type of horde that just looks pretty but in the end gets mowed down in seconds.
All they would need to do is make the elite enemies more rare, spawn in more normal enemies and then make it so that normal weapons could somewhat wear down heavy armor.
Breaker got nerfed and its still the best primary
Got nerfed and it still liquifies everything it points at
Seems like people don't realize you don't have to kill every bug you see. Try to avoid enemies, outrun the ones you can, complete the objectives, and save your heavy firepower to take out the big enemies you HAVE to kill
The chargers also move really weird. Sometimes it just does a 180 when you dodge out of its way. or shoulder tackles you when you dodge.
Your climbing is bad 😂😂😂
Feet
foot rage
Devs remove crutch, people who skipped leg day in shambles.
for real actually
devs remove only way to deal with delusional heavy armored instakill enemy spawns, people who want to have fun in shambles
@@thebluehat6814mech literally 2 shots bile titans and everyone gets one for free
@@DavidNaval diff 6 much?
@@thebluehat6814 skill issue? I’m still having fun even though I’m trash 🤷🏼♂️
I think a better way to balance helldivers would’ve been to buff enemies slightly, buff some of the bad guns, give bonuses when using bad weapons, and make it harder to progress using the meta weapons. That way people who want to feel powerful and kill everything can and those who want a challenge or want to progress have to try
I love watching you while i prograstinate taking a showe
People keep calling the rail gun „broken“ or “op”. Yet that wasn’t the problem! The problem was that every other weapons was ass! What are the players supposed to do when no weapon is above meh? Rely on stratagems? The same stratagems that have a 8 min recharge on higher difficulties?
You're supposed to run away from the enemies DUH? -AverageDevSimp
@@Sheeeshman69 I would love to see them try and run away from 7 titans and 5 chargers. Better yet, let the devs play helldive solo
skill issue