Why I Quit Youtube
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- čas přidán 26. 09. 2021
- I want to thank everyone for sticking around over the last year when things were silent on my end. It means a lot that over the last year there was never a moment where the comments making sure I was doing alright went away. I appreciate all of your love and support and am very excited to continue making content. There are things cooking kids. Very excited to share sooonnnn! Not anything crazy just a video lol
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Hello everyone!!!
I know this is long and some of you might want to skip to certain parts so I'll leave chapter times:
Where I've Been: 0:44
Why I'm Coming Back: 3:42
Growing Up On CZcams: 10:20
My Toxic Relationship with the Book Community: 14:12
Addressing my Last Video: 16:56
I am really glad you are doing okay. I honestly don't think that you did anything wrong. I did think you were pointing out the toxicity of that genre of film. Sorry all this happened to you and glad you are back!
So happy you’re back!!!
Glad you are back, do think too many attacked you unnecessarily plus I’m appalled some did what you said about feet
youtube literally doesnt deserve you
Literally today saw a girl inviting Colleen Hoover to her wedding
#JUSTICEFORCALEB2021 🔥🔥🔥
💙💙💙
Heck yeahh Cindy!
Cindy!!
CINDYYYYY.
SO TRUE QUEEN
This is Caleb's "I lived, bitch" moment
This is his "Reputation" era 💣⛓🐍🔥📰
Considering the things that James Charles has been accused of, people calling you the "Jame Charles of the book community" is so dangerously stupid. I'm glad you're doing well. Congrats on having your own place. 🖤
people comparing him to a groomer is almost even worse than accusing him of being an ableist 🤦🏽♀️
oh no if you say stupid you're gonna get cancelled for being ableist
@@marshmallows394 it… is worse than being ableist. Pedophelia is 1000000x worse than making an ableist comment. Not “almost”. Is.
why is no one mentioning how homophobic it is to call Caleb “James Charles” (an actual predator btw) literally because they’re both gay dudes????
Not to mention it reeks of homophobia
I know I'm literally nobody, but for the record, I shared your Fault In Our Stars video with my "chronic illness gang" groupchat and we all loved it. Everyone in that chat (including me) experiences serious chronic disabilities and has gone through traumatic experiences with cancer in their immediate families. I can totally see how people would hate your jokey/flippant tone, but we thought it was refreshing to see a video that wasn't a super serious analytical essay. Sometimes it's validating to watch a video where the ridiculousness of those cash-grab, half-hearted Oscar-bait movies is treated like the clownery it is.
I'm looking forward to anything you come up with!
They were acting like he was talking about real people and those movies were documentaries and not soulless cash grabs
@@mckennaa3641 This is spot-on. "He was laughing at a dying girl." No, he really wasn't. Movies can be about the most serious subjects of all time and still be hilariously bad in design and execution.
Well, I am sorry that I don't have very few evidence in English about curing cancer and other so called illness which hard to cure in western medicine but I found only one about diabetes and shoulder pain. I am attaching the link here. czcams.com/video/MA2_v51nMDs/video.html
This is a sinhala medicine way. But there are plenty of cancer cure in sinhala language. Even past them you won't be able to understand. So, I hope only suitable people would see this and get the chance to meet that great doctor who saved thousands of thousands lives who got turned down by western medical hospital and specialists. Just the suitable people 🙏🏼❤
Love and Peace!
Please be kind and let the suitable people see this. You know what I mean 🙇♀
@@kcr2294 I was watching a Lifetime movie where this grandma was a killer. Whenever she stabbed people, I kept laughing because the way people acted out their deaths was so terrible.
Wait you got cancelled? I wasn’t aware. I wasn’t into “booktube” I just liked your content and how funny you are. It’s crazy that these adults bullied you. They also never tried to educate you. I’m glad you’re back and hope this new part of your life goes well
He even has a video about how people never tried to educate him on "The Mortal Instruments" People are weird. I blame the beef with Zenith lol
@@sofialima4521 You're probably completely right about this starting with Zenith. Can't mess with the booktube darling.
I literally never watched any other booktuber and I dont use much social media, so I never knew there were ppl trying to cancel you
@@brees3 who is zenith? i am kinda new to booktube so I'm curious. I never heard of her
@@magiccatstail1777 Zenith is a book written by a booktuber. Caleb made a video about it and he didn't really like it
Love all the able-bodied people who spoke over actually disabled voices lmao
Exactly!
Same, it really grinds my gears when the people who are the most angry at these things are the people that DON'T have these afflictions. Like, they're being offended for those people, which is absolutely weird and kinda PSYCHO.
@@DynesiusGaming They do that because they want to look good
@@parkchimmin7913 agreed. They really like getting off on moral superiority
Its the same with cultural appropriation. The loudest voices don't usually come from the actual country/culture being "appropriated."
I'm autistic, and what you were saying about ableism is exactly what happens to the autistic community. People who aren't autistic try and tell us what's right and wrong without considering that they aren't the ones things affect.
“I was gaslit for years y’all!”
“I love playing the victim, I really do.”
That part had me laughing, but it’s actually sad b/c I recognized it right away as a direct result of being gaslit- you start to invalidate yourself & your own experience.
I hope you’re doing better Caleb! Your videos have always bn a source of comfort.
THIS!!
“Yall just were bitter and resentful bc im fierce sexy and beautiful and yall know that yall will never have none of that.” 😂
That was incredible, I love him so much. 🤣
I'm sorry but the "James Charles of the book community" quite had me laughing because WTF! The absurdity of it all
also it's a disgusting comparison bc caleb isn't a groomer
I hope I'm reading to much into it....but that comparison reeks of homophobia to me. Like "omg this gay guy (assuming. personally I'm not sure what is his sexuality and idc) i don't like is totally like the other gay guy I don't like and is a groomer". Very sallow and stereotypeical comparison, when they're two completely different person, cover different topics and have drastic financial differences. It doesn't sit right with me.
@@justalostlocal I think you are reading too much into it 😊 I guess they tried to say he was kinda cancelled as I’ve seen a few videos about him and his controversial videos
@@janak6957 But they could have compared him to any awful/controversial CZcamsr. There are dozens to choose from. Why choose James Charles, who is nothing like Caleb in any way? Even the controversy surrounding them has no overlap whatsoever (Caleb making satire and being perceived as ableist vs James being a predator and sexting underaged boys). I actually do think there are very homophobic undertones there. Regardless of Caleb's sexuality (it doesn't matter and we shouldn't care), they are making an assumption and comparing him to someone based solely on that. It might be subtle to some but I see that shit a mile off and it's gross.
@@justalostlocal nah that is def what i got too. Even if unintentional it was essentially putting them into the same group of "successful gay dude problematic" or whatever, despite no legitimate similarities and the differences in their "offenses" being DRASTICALLY different. I can't explain it but it certainly is not just reading too far into things.
it’s concerning how quick we are to judge and label gen z creators as problematic, forgetting that some are literal teenagers themselves and still growing, learning and making mistakes. the human brain doesn’t even fully form until the mid 20s ffs! i’m not saying younger creators shouldn’t be held accountable, but this harsh scrutiny has got to stop bc ultimately its not about pushing for a better world; its all for performative activism points
and i’m sorry this happened to you, caleb. i cannot imagine growing up online and having everyone able to judge every tiny action i make.. idk i’m around the same age as you (at least, i think… yr 2000), and i’m looking forward to your new content. it’s also super cool to hear you working on a book.. it makes me feel a bit more motivated..i also hope you can quit ur job soon.. min wage is not max fun
"Performative activism points"
Truer words were never spoken.
I thought about Cindy's experience with these overreactors then saw that she's cheering you on in the comments. Love you, Caleb and wishing you the best.
what happened with Cindy????
In my opinion, the tfios video had a really good message. I'm disabled and I'm pretty active in disabled communities. There's a real problem with able-bodied people infantilising us and portraying us as something that needs to be cared for constantly or fixed and it is a really hurtful and damaging idea. In my experience, the types of people who are calling you ableist are using us as shields. They don't care about us and it's clear every time they don't listen to us. Very white saviour if you ask me
That makes so much sense. its like virtue signalling as it requires little effort to talk crap. also goes with race and other issues too.
Agree as someone who is disabled as well. It’s a LOT easier to yell at someone online for using the word idiot than it is to actually put in work. I’m not saying words can’t hurt but just personally I ultimately do not give a shit about someone using a word in passing, I care more about trying to live my life and dismantling the roadblocks that make that difficult.
The brouhaha last year honestly felt less like teaching Caleb about ableism and more like a competition about who can dish out the most vitriol or whose high horse has a prettier color. They were punishing Caleb for pointing out ableist tropes instead of the studios for producing the films that used and abused the same tropes.
Well said!
they're just weaponizing *insert marginalized group here* to feel powerful.
that's the disgusting sad truth.
@@onosabdulrafi right? there were people on twitter who literally created a list of the “harmful things he said” in the video when they didn’t even watch the video and realize caleb was mocking/bashing movie productions. cancel culture in its finest form, sad.
You make entertaining content, and there’s no shame in having monetary motivations when making videos. Especially when you’re also passionate about the content you create.
I agree! I'm always excited when my favorite creators get sponsorships. We appreciate the hustle
WithCindy was also antagonized by the book community for being brutally honest The book community IS toxic. There is also this one video by Lindsay Ellis detailing some book author drama or whatever. Lindsay Ellis got cancelled for her critique on Raya and the Last Dragon. I didn't understand this cancellation and I am Asian myself.
Just be your authentic self, Caleb. We're here to support. 🙂
Personally, I thought Ellis' video addressing all the controversy was pretty good. But I know some people who believe she handled the Twilight Quileute situation. I tried to look it up but I still don't know where the problem is. I looked through videos to see specific examples but what I could mostly find is people saying she says things she doesn't believe. I'm expecting Creepshow Art kind of hypocracy in that case. Also, someone compared her to JK Rowling but I dod not see the parallels at all.
Did Lindsey actually get cancelled for the Raya tweet? I know there were bad Faith actors but I vividly remember Lindsey putting one of the actual mild mannered criticism of her in her video like it was one that was attacking her. It seemed the video was just a more of a pity party than anything.
@@AmuraHiboshi yes the entirety of twitter on her ass and emailing her sponsors it was an insane weekend online
@@beecaro4412 Yet, she still here making money. She wasn't exactly cancelled and there isn't any real lasting murmurs of warnings of her around. I remember her name trending and seeing some people in on it just to rip her apart but most of it was just exasperation about Raya being compared to ATLA for the thousandth time because it just used common E/SEA trappings then that spring boarded onto people mentioning other stuff she said that bothered them in a similar way.
Again, the harmless tweet in the video propped up as one attacking her when not was enough to put me off. There is a thing of just harassing creators just because on Twitter and she has a right to condemn those people but I think she shouldn't of made a video when she was still shaken from getting more attention than usual because then her perspective is becomes... Sensitive? You confuse the people who said vitriolic things to you with people who were just talking about you, y'know?
@@AmuraHiboshi I think that the minority of people were loud enough to warrant her making that video tbh. I agree that she wasn't really cancelled, but that doesn't mean she didn't have a right to say her piece or feel upset by the response to her tweet.
Have literally never seen a more childish community than BookTube. It’s seriously embarrassing. There are a handful of channels I still enjoy but for the most part it’s appalling how toxic they are. They always talk about how small their community is and how they CRAVE more diversity but are so quick to bully, publicly shame and outcast people who have a different thought process/opinion/sense of humor than them.
I actually used to follow a few channels just for their cringey behavior, almost like I enjoyed the second-hand embarrassment from their pearl clutching.
Nah, the beauty community is much worse....
You know what, same with kpop.
well said!! honestly ive watched like 4 booktubers (ive been on booksta for 9months) but would love to find some actually good ones
KING i was literally cleaning out my subscription list the other day and despite you having not posted for a while it never once crossed my mind to unsub i love your videos and your sense of humor and im so excited to see more from you. thank you for sharing this part of yourself with us
Same!
Same!
same!!
me too !! no matter how many times i cleaned my subscription list i never had the thought of unsubscribing to caleb bc i love his content sm
same!
King, as someone who currently has cancer and is undergoing treatment, I really appreciated your commentary on those kinds of books/movie/media. It makes me incredibly happy that you brought it to light, because that genre has always rubbed me the wrong way.
I’ve been such a fan of your videos for years, and I’m overjoyed that you’re taking it all at your own pace. You deserve to be happy, satisfied, and well-paid. Sending lots of love from Minnesota! :-)
I hope your treatment goes well and you get better soon!
hoping you have a complete recovery 💖💖💖
Well I must say, you’re complexion looks fantastic :^)
Get well soon💕
@@EliSa-cf6dm thank you! I’ve actually only got two more rounds of chemo left, so things are looking up!
@@oight thank you :”) it’s looking like I’ll be in great condition soon :-)
"He's laughing at a girl dying"......Do they not understand how movies work? They know Bella Thorne isn't ACTUALLY allergic to the sun right? They know that's all (bad) acting? I just really hope they don't ever discover Red Letter Media because wow I don't think they'd survive that.
I'm allergic to the sun. What movie is that from? I want to laugh at how inaccurate and bad it is. lol
@@SunnysFilms midnight sun
“Literally NOTHING has happened in my life”
Goes into a deep dive of a series of huge milestones in his life lmao. Glad ur back 💕 ✨
I disengaged from booktube because it just became BS drama, but I remember your video and loved it (as someone with chronic illness with a similar style of humour). Im glad you're in a slightly better place and making content again. Take it slow and be kind to yourself. Welcome back!
Yeah people get so weird when someone doesn’t share the ‘acceptable’ opinions on certain books/genres
Same here. I knew the community was getting whack when a few years back I messaged a (relatively popular) booktuber on Tumblr after she directly contradicted herself on something she'd said in one of her last videos (and was being really condescending towards those that didn't hold the same opinion). I wasn't aggressive or mean or trying to have a "gotcha!" moment. I was just genuinely curious how she felt about it/if her opinions had changed. But she came back at me VERY defensively and started making random accusations about me.
I can understand being defensive--no one likes being called out--but the accusations were literally so weird because she was assuming shit about me from one short comment. She said I was a teenager (I was not, I am the same age as her) and I wasn't educated (I am) and that I need to stop making reading fiction my personality (ironic coming from her). And I wasn't about to continuing arguing with her because I was just so dumbfounded by this response, so I unsubbed/unfollowed and left it at that. A few months later I saw her in one of ReadWithCindy's (who I love) videos where she was talking about booktubers who were shitty to her (this booktuber's pic is somewhat blurred in the video but I immediately knew it was her) and I was like yep, that checks out.
I'm all for trying to be PC and considerate and "woke," there are certainly merits to sensitivity. But I just find it ridiculous that a lot of these booktubers who attack creators like Caleb and Cindy perpetuate the exact bullshit they try to call out. In their attempts to be the MOST PC and MOST considerate and the MOST woke, they just conjure up problems where there are none. It has become an incredibly self-righteous community, and I honestly think they're just going to end up eating themselves.
Caleb!! So good to see your name in my subscription uploads again
Same!!!
You and Cindy are the only book tubers I watch.
That doesn't mean much, as I'm just a 💫30 year old lady💫 alone in my kitchen.
But it is so good to have you back, Caleb.
being a omen chilling in her kitchen watching great content seems pretty good to me
SAME!!! Him and Cindy are my favorite and only booktubers I watch. Power to them honestly.
Honestly, good for you for distancing yourself from the online book community! Can't imagine what it must have been like growing up online in the way you described. Rooting for you!! :)
I can’t believe how much Caleb looks like an adult now.
“I will not apologize for saying that people who have cancer are ugly” is gonna be the tag line for one of those people from a year ago reacting to this video 😂
In all seriousness I had no idea you were ‘cancelled’ and the video section about being cancelled was like a lil intro into gaslighting, none of what they were saying made any logical sense!
Glad that you are back, there’s always a worry when someone you follow disappears and you have no idea what’s going on/if they’re okay, etc
Also you and Jenna Marbles left around the same time which led to a severe decrease in chaotic good content, and it’ll be nice to have some again!
“I don’t know if you remember me” dude your videos are literally my comfort videos
it’s great seeing you pop up on my subscriptions again & hear that you’re doing better
His Handbook for Mortals video gave me life.
book twitter is overly fake sensitive and thrives on drama and trying to cancel people for using words like ‘psycho’. i had to leave book twitter for my own mental health and i wasn’t even really apart of it. i’m glad you are back - i’ve literally been watching you since you started youtube and will support whatever you put out ♥️
I left Book Twitter and both my own sanity and my love for reading has returned.
I'm only back for like a month for the readathons and that's it.
Tbf i think maybe for words like psycho i understand why it cpuld perceived as ableist. But something like 'idiot' 'stupid',,, idk thats too far
I think behavior can be psycho if it is perpetuated by psychopaths such as the book Twitter community. If gaslighting a teen to one's ideological conditionings isn't psycho, I don't know what is. I am 36 and I am good friends with mental illness and I wouldn't dream of placing such abuse upon a young person. It is straight up emotional abuse and those "adults" should be ashamed and seek therapy. If the word fits the behavior, I don't see how it is ablelist.
Reddit writers are f up as well, literally people who posted their writings for critiques and then invalidate your post for you giving constructive opinion such as I was disconnected from the writing due to the setup, prose, pacing. ?? There are also 14 yo everyday asking whr to sell their writings so that they can pay to lealve home. ??
I could be wrong but I think a lot of the support from other booktubers stopped when you made your video about zenith 🤦🏼♀️ and that’s one of the main reasons I love your content to begin with! You are always 100% honest and some people are just gonna have a problem with that. You can’t please everyone. But I’m so glad you’re back Caleb! You could literally make videos of you doing your laundry and I would still be entertained lol don’t put too much pressure on yourself. Create what you enjoy ♥️
Yeaa it was definitely because of the Zenith video he made lol. Sasha alsberg probably told the other booktubers in her little gang to give Caleb the cold shoulder and not support him
@@JaynaDoll24 I like all of them but if that’s true, then they just did him dirty😔Sashas book isn’t good and everyone knows it
That whole group of you tubers are so shady so I don’t even watch them
damnn and that video made me suscribe
What happened with Zenith?
We could never forget you. We love you gurl. Keep doing you & we’ll be here.
No truer words have ever been typed
As a disabled person who is also a cancer survivor, I appreciated your video. I understood and agreed with what you were saying. Tfios was the only one close to my heart cause I had the same cancer and leg amputation as Augustus. I’ve never had a character as close to what happened to me and will forever be grateful for that, which I told John Green in person. That being said I was able to only watch the movie once. Apart from that book I can’t really watch/read any books similar to that cause it DOES seem like they’re romanticizing illness or someone needs to die in order for the love interest could appreciate life etc.
And I get it tfios was very successful and some authors/directors were looking for the same success. I don’t think this type of movies are going away soon but that shouldn’t mean we can’t criticize the content cause it involves sick/disabled characters. I mean people are entitled to have their opinion, but it’s just weird seeing abled people being offended when there wasn’t anything bad in the video. It seems to me they just want to act offended to look woke but hey I could be wrong. I mean thanks booktube for defending us, but there’s no need to be outraged or cancel Caleb. Caleb just brought light to this topic which can be worth having a conversation. There are so many things we can discuss from these movies only hiring body abled actors to these movies romanticizing diseases. Y’all only get a glimpse of how it really is normally in the third act of the movie/book. And to be frank, I like caleb’s dark sense of humor but that’s just me.
We could be an awesome community if we weren’t so focused on canceling people for critiquing your faves or act like gatekeepers. We also don’t need to jump on the wagon canceling someone for critiquing characters unless you want that those likes on Twitter or views on yt which many do but would never admit it.
People affected by chronic illness: Caleb has a good message about the harm caused by the romantization of our illness! Thank you for speaking out about this issue!
People who are not impacted by said illnesses: he said the word "idiot" reeeeee-
Those same people are gonna cancel you now for using the REEEEEEEEEEE meme lol
I literally rewatch your videos regularly. They’re my comfort videos, i love them sm. I’m so glad you’re back
Same whenever I need to do something for a long time, like cleaning my room or something, I’ll put on those videos too
Same!
@@bibubbletea me taking long a$$ showers and rewatching every single video for the 536372829283837364644562726th time
I literally have a playlist of my comfort videos and i watch it nearly every day. A lot of those videos are his, so i end up rewatching like 10 of his videos every week lmao
OMG same!
"Don't work at Starbucks, y'all." *Me having worked at Starbucks for three years and being a supervisor and slowly dying inside* SOOOOOO glad you're back!! I was just looking at your channel and hoping for more content someday.
More comments as I continue through the video... I LOVE YOUR CONTENT AND I AM SO FUDGING GLAD YOU'RE BACK!!!!!
Me whos been planning to work on starbucks : 👁👄👁💦
I’ve been with Starbucks four years, it sucks. Get out when you can. 😔
booktwt *loves* to strip nuance away from any conversation. i didn’t even know you were cancelled lol i’d assumed you were just busy with life. great to see you back though!!! & i’m happy to hear you still have publishing goals! 🌟
I think other creators were scared of you because you were one of the fews (along with Kat from paperbackdreams) that talk about book as it is. Like I feel like most creators rarely talk about books that they hate, so they won’t criticise you, which is fine because they might just be people who are easy to please readers. But I think during that time, you were the outcast because you will talk about books you didn’t like and we’re gaining so much attention for that, so yeah, they were probably petty.
Ive stopped watching booktubers that dont talk bad about any book cause we dont need a creator that contantly worries about hurting feelings.
I love that you mentioned this as idk why but the only booktubers I have kept up with are Caleb and Kat.. I guess upon reflection that had a lot to do with how authentic they both are and its really refreshing :))
Yall readwithcindy or just Witchcindy is pretty rad too. Her sense of humor is pretty edgy, I just like her straightforward approach.
@@justalostlocal HECK YES! I love Cindy! I didn't mention her because she came into Booktube a bit later than Kat and Caleb.
@@justalostlocal cindy is amazing !!
I'm a bit far into the video but I just wanted to say, I've struggled with pretty heavy depression and I went through that... Dwindling of passion and lack of interest in everything you used to love, and it is a rough process. It can take a toll on you. This year, I managed to return to reading (and, in fact, I not only hit my reading goal, I doubled it and hit it again), and that filled me with do much happiness. This is also a process. You can never turn back to who you once were, but you can grow and become better, and I hope you can encounter what brings you true joy. 💙
This was a really beautiful comment. " You can never turn back to who you once were, but you can grow and become better, and I hope you can encounter what brings you true joy." I have also really suffered from depression and lack of passion. Trying new things, trying old things, and finding what we love one day at a time!
I just want to validate both you and Caleb here. This. This. This.
Omg you are so adorable! You remind me of my nephew. I just discovered your channel and I’m watching all your videos! So glad you’re back. Please take care of yourself! 😃
I love your channel!!
@@d.lan3y thank you! ❤️
Your channel is AWESOME❤️❤️
I never expected this crossover but I'm here for it.
@@murdermythandmayhem Same! This is the best thing I’ve discovered today!
People engage with content purposely trying to interpret things in the worst possible way and it’s really frustrating. If people don’t like Caleb, fine, but everyone feels this need to prove they are justified in disliking him.
THE GIRL WHO WROTE THE WHOLE NOVEL ABOUT THIS and then proceeded to drop the "well I didn't actually see the movie but..." bomb... I mean...
Pretty sure that everyone thats still here understands your humor and will support you to the end. Glad you took time off but also happy that you’re back (and that money issue hits close to home - im a broke full time grad student so i feel you 😭)
This comment hits close to home (also broke grad student) also also hi other Dani!!!👋🏻
@@danivictoria broke grad students unite 😤😭
Sorry Caleb was real asf for saying “a check would be nice” and I will be supporting him unconditionally from here on out
I think these people imagine themselves as the knight in shining armor.
And the fact that they find their opinions are more valid than the actual people who are disabled or have serious illnes, is really laughable. I mean they even didn't listen to the ones, whom they actualy were "defending".
And the fact that they were lying to you in private, tells everything about them.
Go Caleb! I root for you! I hope you'll have a good time here once again :)) We sure will.
Its literally the textbook example of virtue signaling lol
For a community who loves to read they sure have no reading comprehension or deduction skills.
I remember being so annoyed seeing your “cancellation”. It was clearly not what you were going for in the video. You were not making fun of the illnesses or people suffering through them. It was making fun of the romanticisation and dramatisation of these illnesses in these stupid, blockbuster movies that just want coin rather than to raise awareness.
Otherwise, glad you are back, glad you spent the last year socialising and finding yourself. Please keep being yourself x
I enjoy your content a lot, and I'm honestly upset at the creepy and inflammatory responses youve gotten. People who criticize a minor (or, lets be real, anyone) for not being morally infallible and perfect need to log off and reexamine their beliefs. its unhealthy for them and seriously damaging to the people they target.
I'm glad you returned, and I'm looking forward to your content in the future
I think criticizing a minor/anyone isn't an issue, as long as it is constructive and is actually meant to help that person better themselves. For those kids who are out of line and saying really hurtful things - we should help them realize the issue so they can improve on that. But to attack and bully, people like that need to check themselves and log off, like you said. - So I agree with you - people do too much to not even help a situation and make it worse.
@@starranderson5 exactly it's about criticizing and educating in a proper and constructive way.
@@starranderson5 I didn't mean that minors should never be criticized. If they say hateful or hurtful things because no one has taught them how bad they are - point it out, absolutely. The internet has gotten a lot worse in that regard and we do need to try to protect minors from being pulled into potentially dangerous subcultures who often use this ""edgyness"" as a initiator for recruitment.
What I meant was people who have become so overly obsessive about bombarding anyone who isn't absolutely perfect with criticism and hate to serve some kind of superiority complex, or by some misunderstanding of "wokeness". That kind of criticism is never constructive, only destructive, especially for minors who are still developing their identity and sense of self-worth. *Those* people need to log off and rethink their life choices.
Oh man, the relatable-ness of having a dry sense of humor and people not getting it moat of the time. So basically, I totally got where you were coming from and you were done dirty.
Glad you're back!
I don't like it when people get angry on behalf of other people. Especially when so many people who actually have chronic illnesses or are disabled commented about how they appreciated your video. I'm glad you're back.
You know what? That just took me off guard, couse I really thought that this was a solid, well-made video. Wasn't Susan Sontag writing about romanticizing cancer and other illnesses? Yea, she was, and nobody canceled her xD
Glad we have you back!
I don't blame you laughing at Bella Thorne dying. She's a horrible actress. Lol
It’s also a bit ridiculous too me when these people who don’t even suffer from these illnesses get more upset than the actual people being mocked by these movies. Your video made me feel so seen and made me laugh. It was refreshing to see someone really talk about how damaging these troupes are.
I would look forward too your videos bc they were an escape.
I think sometimes people want to be a hero. People are quick too find something that makes them mad. And funnily enough the people saying that it was ableist, screaming over the actual community, is a whole extra level of ironic.
And also I’m proud of you for trying to learn. These people actually make it hard to talk about disability bc they make it impossible to make a mistake or have an honest discussion. They just want social points.
Perhaps this is a little off-topic, but it's always baffled me to think of how a significant chunk of these communities (i.e. booktube, kpopstantwt) do this thing where they preach about mental health and uplifting the voices of the unheard, but when it actually comes to practicing what they preach, it's just **crickets**
It's vile how people just band together and misconstrue someone's words, and it's concerning to see the way they just harass people instead of having a conversation about the problem, whatever it may be.
I used to be in a twitter community, and they kept misconstruing the words of someone whom I love to the point where that person had a breakdown. And after that, I just noped out of twitter for good.
I'm several months late, but I'm just glad to hear you're doing okay! I really enjoy your videos, Caleb, and I hope you have a lovely day!
It’s like the kids in high school who were like “stop bullying ♥️” on the student council but then they call you fat in gym class
What's REALLY ableist is speaking for people with a condition that you do not have. Hope ur doing ok
I had thought you had disconnected from booktubers and had put a focus on school - hence the break. I am genuinely so happy to see you, and I think it's wise to disconnect from the CZcams community. It's backfired for a lot of communities, there's been countless falling outs and issues from being so close. You are free and allowed to create and engage on your terms. Also Lindsay Ellis' response to her cancellation might be a place for consolation if you haven't seen it yet. Love you!!!
gotta love how some people will call ableism and "stand up" for others with disabilities or illnesses, until someone they dislike struggles with something. coming from someone with complex mental illness, i've also been called ableist but in the same vein been shamed for the symptoms of my mental illness by the same people. amazing on you for wanting to learn more, if only they were willing to also grow and communicate!
During one of my darkest points of 2020, I randomly watched "Wait...maybe I wrote the worst book of all time" and I laughed so hard that I cried. So happy to have you back, in whatever capacity you choose!
It kinda feels like drama channels in the book comunity are so starved for content since there's not a shane or james here, that they'll go on the internet purposefully trying to be offended by anything and everything so that they have something to talk about. It gets ridiculous and cringey to watch tbh. Anyways, congrats on being cancelled and back, iconic behaviour. You were in your reputation era
Yep. It seems like all the channels that I watch are pretty big and run by creative people, and I don't see them gossiping about others.
Glad to see you back! I wasn't even aware of the "cancellation" or slander cuz i'd never willingly go near the book community lol, but I missed you and your videos and I loved rewatching them during the past year :] I didn't know if you'd ever come back but it's so good to know you took some pretty deserved time off. Also eff minimum wage jobs 😡 we're too fierce and sexy to be working for $11 an hour
Y’all are getting $11 and hour?? 👁👄👁 (I live in a state where minimum wage is low af!!)
@@thisisavivistanaccount7866 Y'all are getting paid?? (im sorry I saw a chance and I took it )
min here is 7.25 lmao
@@womankisserjermaluvr yes Midwest and south minimum wage is bs
i am disabled, chronically ill, was on chemo (no longer!!! yay!!!) and your “canceled” video
was so cathartic and amazing for me. i laughed along with you because you’re so right, they romanticize this shit and it’s so invalidating. non-disabled ppl gave me shit on twitter for not agreeing with their take that i should be offended. it was a mess. i’m so glad you called this out. anyway, i’m so glad you are BAAAAAAACK
I have a long-term disability and agreed with you. I'm sick of people romanticizing illness and so many use people with disabilities as a plot device who make the able-bodied people better. I'm not here to "inspire" others or make people feel better about themselves. Disability and sickness socks, we're just trying to get by like everyone else.
So, as someone who has chronic health issues, and saw your video. Yeah, it's got some ableist moments, but compared to the movies discussed, it's not worth talking about. Something those virtue-signalling able-bodied people don't get is that ableism is in every part of society, and it's hard to make content that doesn't ever accidentally have at least some ableism occur in it. But the only real way to fight that smaller stuff is to deconstruct the larger ableist narratives that suffuse our culture, such as those movies which romanticize cancer and chronic illness. Like, if those creators want to actually address ableism, calling out a CZcams channel with less than a million subscribers is nothing compared to actually criticizing blockbuster films that gross millions of dollars. (Although tbf, there are bigger fish to fry in terms of ableism, but the romanticization of illness is often one that goes unnoticed.) Overall, you have nothing to apologize for. Those movies are shit, and by not honestly depicting life with serious health problems, make the lives of people who have them much more difficult
i hate just going "this" but basically you worded my thoughts out perfectly. also kinda hm at the fact a bunch of the people calling it out are able bodied 😭
edit: the four horsemen of romanticization is abusive relationships, mental illnesses, general illnesses, and fetishization of poc
@@nonbinarysunset555 drug addiction too. But would that go in the mental illness category? I’ve never smoked a cigarette but I’ve considered it before just because it looked aesthetically pleasing in movies.
@@Pandaboomina thatd be under either illnesses i think
You're legit right, I'm chronically ill and it's the worst when there's a character with an illness only to be romanticized/sexualized or used for an emotional blow at the end. I remember loving your video when it came out!
Someone: laughs at bad acting
Whole adults: this is literally a supervillain.... he hates people who are dying and laughs at real pain
literally wasn't even aware you were "cancelled" and was never even a part of the book community, I just loved you because of how funny you were and I felt like you were genuine on camera, sounds cliche but your content feels just like chatting shit with a friend. so happy ur back king
I have so much to say.
1) I missed you so much and I’m so glad you’re back.
2) I completely understand about the mental health and losing your ability to do what you want. That’s depression, and I’m going through it too, and it’s really hard. No one can hold it against you, and you shouldn’t hold it against yourself.
3) The assholes who “misunderstood” your video about romantic illness movies only “misunderstood” it because they didn’t want to understand. They feigned ignorance because they wanted to put you down because they are toxic people. They are disgusting and should be ashamed of themselves, but they won’t be because they’re selfish and ugly on the inside. People who like you 100% understood what your video was about and what you were saying. Your sense of humor is obvious, and your jokes are comprehended as jokes by anyone who wants to comprehend them. If someone claims they didn’t understand you were joking, they are lying because they are cowards and don’t have the guts to admit that they lied about you for clout.
4) You deserve so much better than you have gotten from the book “community.” Just ignore the haters, or better yet, block them. They’re petty and problematic and ugly inside.
I’m really glad you’re back, and I want you to take as much time as you need to get back into the swing of things. We want you back, but not at the expense of your health.
It is absolutely not wrong to come back for money. Food service is physically demanding and mentally exhausting. It saps you of the energy you'd put towards creative pursuits long after you clock out.
While I was working a to go counter I woke up multiple times thinking I had messed up someone's order and would be sitting in bed panicking about how to fix it (I have a hard time explaining the space my brain was in because I knew I was at home but thought I was still at work at the same time somehow, like I needed to pick up the phone and call a customer back from bed)
Also- you got canceled cause you were funny lol. Twitter hates nothing more than genuine mirth and laughter
Look I don't think we need to have a PhD for EVERY open dialogue we're going to have and these books, and movies, characters are not more important than ACTUAL people. The fact that people were up in arms more about your honesty commentary than the original subject matter is wild. And I bet you everyone of those people are into a murder comedy podcast. We can mock and commentate on something without it being a direct comparison to ACTUAL PEOPLE.
people are so freaking dramatic omg. that woman was really like "he KNOWS she can't go in the sun but he laughs at her anyway like a MONSTER!!" like girl...it's not real....people laugh at movie characters dying all the time. booktubers get so mad when someone with an actual sense of humor comes along.
King I’m so glad you’re back! Take care of yourself :)
Edit: don’t worry about money motivating you, that’s very normal and I hope you can make money from something you’re passionate about again after doing retail for a long time. Let’s get you that check king
I literally had a heart attack when I saw the notification. It's been so long! Nice to see ya back tho.
if someone tries to make caleb feel bad for doing youtube as a side gig to his soul-crushing minimum wage job, i will RIOT
What’s interesting is booktube/booktwt are…readers. These people have most likely encountered contextual clues, metaphors, and sarcasm in literature. Hell, you can even come across them in movies.
The inability to parse the true intent of Caleb’s video is very possibly a willful one.
Probs because they just read and so can't discern those things in actual living, 3D people lmao.
Or you know, they just had all those things jump right over their heads.
They dont understand nuance in books either. That's why they mostly stick to books for 16 year olds.
It’s 100% purposeful. That’s why they were all criticizing him for saying stupid, and psycho when they say it themselves. It’s a classic situation of disliking someone first, coming up with a reason to dislike them later. They already didn’t like him, for whatever reason. And when they saw that he was doing something that they could frame as offensive, giving them a “valid” reason to talk about disliking him they jumped on it.
SO glad to hear from you!! Haven’t finished the video yet of course, but excited :)
Contrapoints has a great video on cancellation and her breakdown of it is exactly what happened to you. The jump from "What you did is maybe not great" to "What you did was literally the worst thing anyone has ever done" to the final jump to "You are the worst person ever" might as well be a pipeline with how efficient it works. I'm sorry you went through that but excited to see you back!
Theres a natalie video for everything
honestly some people LOVE criticizing shit and ganging up on someone and then acting as if they’re complete angels. since when did the words dumb and crazy become a slur 😕
I’ve had cancer twice. And I loved that video. It finally wasn’t just a sympathy fest. I hated getting sympathy and being treated like a fragile object by other people.
But most importantly it romanticized and profited off of being sick and dying young. Which to me is gross.
Edited to add: That I’ve legitimately had people tell me I shouldn’t have been born because of my other health conditions. And I never felt that feeling from your video.
Tbh, Caleb, I wouldn't even worry about the ableist stuff and whatnot.the internet loves to mishear or misread things since everyone is different. And Twitter is basically one big childish game of "telephone",so I wouldnt even bother with them. As long as you do you ,you should be fine.
Lmao, I'm pissed but not surprised, it's the kind of people who don't actually care about spreading awareness, they only care about being perceived as "the good guys" by others, which only leads to hypocrisy. That's my take.
I'm glad to see you back!
I’ve missed you so much🥺 I had just gotten into your channel right before your last video. I watched all of your past videos and kept waiting for the next one to come out. I’m glad to see you back on CZcams and I’m sorry to hear about all of the drama.
I am 42 and bipolar, and have a chronic illness.
I also have two sons near your age (19 and 23).
NOTHING in ANY of your videos have EVER offended me.
I. LOvE. YOUR. VIDEOS.
Your tone and sense of humor are what got me through a 6 hour treatment in hospital yesterday. I was playing your romance and Dom videos and laughed so hard the technicians thought I was literally having a seizure. And that is füçkïñg hilarious 😂
I saw her video about you...
and I WAS subscribed to her..
W A S.
It infuriates me as a person with SEVERE mental health issues when people hurt others “on my behalf” because apparently I’m triggered by “crazy” or ?idiot? because someone with mental issues = idiot..? wow
Honestly SHE triggered me by being so up her own bum she is the morality police and tells the internet the appropriate words to use in very specific situations, EVEN THOUGH I HAVE HEARD HER USE ALL of the word examples she used that apparently were supposed to make me faint from being ever-so-offended.
You’re fine Caleb.
Please don’t feel the need to censor yourself because ppl are jealous of your content/meddle in places they have no business in.
Can't believe people took that take from the video. To me it was very clear that it was about how people fetishize illnesses, especially after fault in our stars. In fact pretty sure you blatantly said that in the video.
I swear people look for stuff to be mad at
I knew Booktube was a thing from you talking about it. But I didn't realize how wild and chaotic it was. That's a lot to have to go through in your more transformative years. Not that bad actions get a free pass, but kids getting sexualized and canceled for some times mistakes and some times nothing at all is a hard no! I'm glad you took the break you needed.
I'm glad to see you back, I'm sorry you've had such a toll on mental health. There were so many videos that you made where my husband actually took time to watch with me (hes not into book videos) so it's going to be nice to see what else is in store for you
This is wildly honest and I respect it so much. thank you for coming back not because you felt pressure to but because you know yourself enough to realize you’re sick as fuck and this is the right step for you, plus I love your videos haha
Don't even apologize for your video. It was not underresearched. For the type of commentary you were making, there was no additional research you had to do. Don't apologize for your tone or sarcasm. People who got angry at your dry humor just can't take a joke, and that's their problem, not yours.
i’m so excited to see content from you again😭 you’ve literally shaped my humor over the years i’ve watched you!
I check your account so often to see if you’ve posted again, and I’m so glad you did! I felt the past couple years have been a struggle with me as well growth wise, and losing my passions, so you’re not alone on that one. I’m so happy that you’re figuring it all out!
And you’ve always seemed super authentic and genuine to me. And I actually loved TFIOS video, I had no idea people canceled you over that????? All the points people were making were so stupid I can’t. People literally will make drama over ANYTHING. Anything you do is something-ist
As someone who's had their arguements twisted into bad faith criticisms saying the literal opposite of what I actually said, I'm really sorry that happened to you.
I'm very glad that you're back, though and that you're doing fairly well!
So glad to see that you're back! I loved your reviews on bad books, they were hilarious. You have a very real, and funny personality. However, a break or deciding to leave is always okay. CZcams isn't going anywhere any time soon, and we'll always be here 😎
You’re allowed to say anything!! We love you!! I’ve been rewatching your vids whenever I’m sad or sick (or both) and I’d happily rewatch anything new you put out to pay your bills!! It’s just so gud to see your face!
The book community has a problem with taking criticism when it comes to a book they love and they’ll do absolutely everything to vilify anyone giving critiques or poking fun.
Booktube is so odd. You would think folks who can read all sorts would be able to see how multi-faceted people are in rl but nope!
But I'm really glad you're back and "healthy" (as best as we can be in these times). Hope you can get out of the void of feeling directionless. Just got to remind yourself to breathe and not compare, with your past/future self as well as with others.
I didn't know about the whole cancelled debacle. I watched that video and did not take it as being abelist or mean spirited. The booktube community (the mainstream community anyway) is toxic af. I'm so glad your back and I'm excited to see what your new videos will be like!
Thank you for this video! It's very refreshing to see people talk about their experiences in a very candid manner, and it's clear how much you have changed and grown in the past year. I have loved your content for years now (although I didn't know you were cancelled...for no reason but that be the community these days....) and I'm so excited for you to come back with passion for the videos again. We're here to support you king - and I hope that everyone can listen to what you have to say and try to foster a better, more accepting, and more forgiving community for all
I was legitimately thinking "I wish Caleb would post a video!" today. Make a Patreon, I would absolutely throw at least dollar your way every month to hear you ramble.
Literally just sorted through my subscriptions today, saw this channel and thought man, I miss him. So happy to hear from you!
That feeling of "life is pointless" is something I also went thru at some point during the pandemic. I'm glad you took the break you needed and I'm also glad to have you back!
If everyone got cancelled for laughing at a death in a MOVIE, I don't think any of us would be left
You would think that people who make "Person-who-reads-a-lot-and-talks-about-it-constantly" their whole personality they'd have a better grasp on tone or any reading comprehension at all, but no. BookTube is just the same 20 self-righteous tumblr has beens talking trash about each other using the most hypocritical arguments to justify their BS.
Tone doesn't come across well in text form, so of course they can't grasp it in real life lmao.