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  • čas přidán 1. 10. 2019
  • The XFX THICC RX 5700 XT was the worst 5700-series we looked at, primarily at fault for poor thermal performance and poorly configured fan curves.
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    Original review here: • Tear-Down of XFX RX 57...
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    The XFX THICC, ironically, had the biggest issue with its curves. Fan curves, that is. In further testing and attempting to fix the XFX RX 5700 XT THICC (with AMD Navi), we discovered that the plastic embellishments along the PCB also caused issues, as did mounting pressure, thermal paste application, and backplate. Basically everything was causing thermal transfer problems, and that's something we were able to explore in this video of attempted fixes. Not all improved the card, but we did find the important ones that can.
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Komentáře • 655

  • @GamersNexus
    @GamersNexus  Před 4 lety +93

    Watch the original XFX THICC review for more information on this card: czcams.com/video/IwczmQNHVfo/video.html
    OTHER PRODUCT FIXES WE'VE DONE:
    1: H500P Meshify - czcams.com/video/sAzAO9VQPmI/video.html (turned into a real product!)
    2: MSI EVOKE OC 5700 XT thermal pad fix - czcams.com/video/PdC8konCqMM/video.html
    3: Vega Frontier Edition fix - czcams.com/video/WbS7c2Een8o/video.html
    4: GTX 1080 Ti Hybrid fix - czcams.com/video/bQ-Y08enNG0/video.html
    And grab the GN toolkit or modmat at the store: store.gamersnexus.net/

    • @Quanalogy
      @Quanalogy Před 4 lety

      Hi, I've seen you fix the thermals of many different components now and I thought you could might help me with one of mine. I've got a asrock taichi x570, 3700x, power devil 5700 xt and an pcie 4.0 m.2.
      My South Bridge temp with just waiting in bios for ~15 mins is 68 degrees celcius - in bios.... While gaming it will reach 76-78. Asrock says its within specs, but with the SB cooler running at 5-6000 rpm it is clearly audible, while the gpu is not. Can you help me figure out how to lower these temps?
      By the way, have already disassembled the SB and the thermal pads have a mark from the mounting pressure.
      Hope you can help with some guidance, thanks :-)

    • @bobhumplick4213
      @bobhumplick4213 Před 4 lety

      how about "kit" cards. best cooler and everything you can get but the customer has to assemble it. i would be game

    • @MrYodaylay
      @MrYodaylay Před 4 lety +2

      The link to the original review actually links the the tear down. Just a little thing, but thought you should know!

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  Před 4 lety +3

      @@MrYodaylay Thank you!

    • @biquiba
      @biquiba Před 4 lety +2

      The biggest improvement would be to the factory employees salary. I small increase in the payment and task rotation between workers (in order to mitigate fatigue) would do wonders to increase the laborers number.

  • @Liatin1
    @Liatin1 Před 4 lety +1064

    “Just buy it and see for yourself” -xfx employee

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  Před 4 lety +378

      Actual quote, by the way.

    • @RNG-999
      @RNG-999 Před 4 lety +130

      @@GamersNexus I love that they tried giving you guys shit for reviewing their shitty product honestly.

    • @Mr.Thanos_
      @Mr.Thanos_ Před 4 lety +37

      well... Sapphire is really good in terms of cooling...and also the PCB Components.
      i just edited my Nitro+ bios..and oc it ..and temp is same..😊😊

    • @DarkLinkAD
      @DarkLinkAD Před 4 lety +11

      @@GamersNexus Im having Mayhem Pastel Coolant/JayzTwoCents Flashbacks :P

    • @truthbetold7771
      @truthbetold7771 Před 4 lety +1

      Lmaoo

  • @SovietRipper
    @SovietRipper Před 4 lety +560

    Steve, stop, stop! He's already dead!

  • @8man_01
    @8man_01 Před 4 lety +237

    10:40
    Not enough Thermal Pads - EVGA, probably.

    • @CaveyMoth
      @CaveyMoth Před 4 lety +2

      My EVGA GPU doesn't even have a backplate. Maybe that's why it's nice and cool. ^^

    • @CheapBastard1988
      @CheapBastard1988 Před 4 lety +4

      At least they learned from their mistake and fixed the cards affected.

  • @HeyImGaminOverHere
    @HeyImGaminOverHere Před 4 lety +507

    Step one: buy THICC
    Step two: take off everything manufacturer added making it more efficient.
    Step three: wonder why you didn't just buy a more efficient card in the first place.

    • @PCFixer
      @PCFixer Před 4 lety +21

      "Could you trim away some of the fat? I distinctly said, 'No fat.'"

    • @TechyBen
      @TechyBen Před 4 lety +13

      Step 3: Post plastic back for a $50 refund???
      4 profit?

    • @branchprediction9923
      @branchprediction9923 Před 4 lety

      Step 5: profit¿

    • @S3lvah
      @S3lvah Před 4 lety +6

      I just ordered the DD Ultra (non-XT variant of this card) as it was by far the cheapest AiB 5700 available in my region (seriously, the others cost >40 € more). Might flash it with XT bios (Thicc or AMD reference) at some point if I need a power boost.
      Are there any downsides or concerns I should be aware of before stripping the plastic off my card?

    • @zt9233
      @zt9233 Před 4 lety +1

      S3lvah was thinking of doing the same thing

  • @chrisnightingale6917
    @chrisnightingale6917 Před 4 lety +315

    XFX: Designs cooler with side exiting fins
    XFX: Covers side exiting fins with plastic shrouds
    GPU: Runs hot
    XFX: *surprised Pikachu face*

  • @foxboi6309
    @foxboi6309 Před 4 lety +232

    GN ended up burning XFX more than their heatsinks could take.

  • @cronoevo
    @cronoevo Před 4 lety +462

    You guys are amazing, most reviewers would just say "it's garbage" and bin it. However, you lot prototype fixes for a giant company that should have realized their shortcomings in the design phase. This is why your reviews are the best, it's why you guys are so highly regarded, and it's why I'll always trust your well worded\comprehensive testing. Bravo, keep up the great work. Fu@k the haters.

    • @GamersNexus
      @GamersNexus  Před 4 lety +95

      Thanks for the kind words! We're actually doing even more on this card, but it won't be ready for a few weeks!

    • @NinjaWeazel
      @NinjaWeazel Před 4 lety +10

      @@GamersNexus custom watercooled version when

    • @reapov2665
      @reapov2665 Před 4 lety

      😂😂😂

    • @M_Northstar
      @M_Northstar Před 4 lety +14

      @@GamersNexus Ooh, ooh. Copper plate version. Let Linus mill it for you, he's got that fancy new workshop.

    • @blindtruth4614
      @blindtruth4614 Před 4 lety +4

      Seeing how sloppy XFX were here not only means I will not buy this card (not like I would buy a RX 5700XT anyway) but means I will not even concider XFX cards at all when it comes to my next purchase.

  • @Carlton_Banks
    @Carlton_Banks Před 4 lety +156

    Improving the THICC:
    1- Grab it
    2- Remove the THICCness.
    3- ???
    4- Profit

    • @Atreea
      @Atreea Před 4 lety +11

      soo... its a STICC ?

    • @thelegendaryklobb2879
      @thelegendaryklobb2879 Před 4 lety +3

      Yup, this thicc card greatly benefits from a good balanced diet. Now we need to get her into the gym (improving the contact plate?)

    • @enfantdecoq
      @enfantdecoq Před 4 lety +3

      unfortunately step 4 is unattainable, as price is based on meme-value.

    • @CaveyMoth
      @CaveyMoth Před 4 lety

      I just want a graphics card that is PCB and heatsink. No flashy adornments. Call it "Pure Cooling."

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios Před 4 lety +1

      I would buy the card only to remove the backplate and replace it with a nice 30mm high, finned cooler for extra thiccness.
      Add some extra back fans for good measure.

  • @TheRealPunisher
    @TheRealPunisher Před 4 lety +65

    Xfx picked a fight with the wrong guy lol

  • @soupwizard
    @soupwizard Před 4 lety +90

    Would like to see a video with more in-depth info on Shenzhen labor shortages and how that is affecting design. Edit: Maybe generalize that into the difference between designing for manual assembly to partially manual to fully robotic assembly. Just how much robotics are used to create the motherboards, CPUs, GPUs, power supplies, etc that we buy?

    • @mitchell3876
      @mitchell3876 Před 4 lety +5

      czcams.com/video/cnAFTMaS5R0/video.html
      He did do a factory tour showing how much of making a motherboard is automated now

    • @johnuferbach9166
      @johnuferbach9166 Před 4 lety

      i'd guess cpu production is fully automated
      on motherboards the placing of a few throughole components is done manually
      the rest idk
      often the testing / feeding the testing machines is done manually

    • @rodturner6759
      @rodturner6759 Před 4 lety

      This is on the engineers, you fucktard.

    • @mycelia_ow
      @mycelia_ow Před 4 lety

      @@rodturner6759 not just the engineers. Everyone involved with XFX is a knob.

  • @TillOverHill
    @TillOverHill Před 4 lety +60

    All of this on a card that comes with a warranty void sticker over a screw. Laughable.

    • @devilmikey00
      @devilmikey00 Před 4 lety +7

      Which is illegal in the states at least. Your warranty isn't void if the sticker is broken.

    • @rogehmarbi
      @rogehmarbi Před 4 lety +1

      @@devilmikey00 is that true though? (Asking because I have a Lenovo laptop with a sticker on it, I'd like to upgrade to an SSD but that thing's on the way...)

    • @12pandemon
      @12pandemon Před 4 lety +1

      @@rogehmarbi It is true. 100%.

    • @mycelia_ow
      @mycelia_ow Před 4 lety

      @@12pandemon can't they refuse RMA then though? I know it is illegal for them to do this, but most people aren't going to have the funds or time to battle a manufacturer in court should it get that far. The USA gov needs to enforce these polices more

  • @slick2000tiscali
    @slick2000tiscali Před 4 lety +59

    "this Mcdonalds plastic", lol

  • @Scyler1641
    @Scyler1641 Před 4 lety +55

    "Your 40 dba normalised test is biased"
    GN: takes 20 seconds to give concise, straightforward counterarguments and welcomes further debate wihtout even flinching
    Other techtubers: 20 minute response video of "Is OuR TeStInG BiAsEd zZoMg"

    • @thereisnospace
      @thereisnospace Před 4 lety +1

      well thats an easy 10-20 minutes video to make without having to think about it that hard.

  • @Celician83
    @Celician83 Před 4 lety +30

    Honestly dont know what happen to XFX, they USED to be the card to get, at least back in the GTX 200 series. They kinda went downhill since

    • @slipknotboy555
      @slipknotboy555 Před 4 lety +9

      It really seems to just be this generation of cards. Their R9 300 series and Polaris stuff, for example, are fine

    • @frickzjee
      @frickzjee Před 4 lety

      @@slipknotboy555 i currently have XFX RX580, i mean its a fine card, but a little too loud when gaming and at 75-76 C its not the coolest

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios Před 4 lety +1

      Guess their place got taken by PowerColor. They used to be the cheaper alternative for ATi/AMD, but with their RedDevil cards they pretty much work at the top.

    • @pavelkryl457
      @pavelkryl457 Před 4 lety +1

      @@slipknotboy555 Their polaris stuff really was not fine, I own an RX 480 from xfx and when I took the backplate off and applied a new thermal paste I dropped temps by around 8°C. And don´t even get me started on their fans.

    • @timothygibney159
      @timothygibney159 Před 4 lety

      @@HappyBeezerStudios yeah xfx was the top brand and powrcolor may blow at any time but was cheaper. My have times changed. Gigabyte on the Intel said was crap while Asus was God. Now the other way around

  • @_Agosto_
    @_Agosto_ Před 4 lety +59

    "Moving on less plastic"
    Steve Thunberg

  • @dchilo
    @dchilo Před 4 lety +50

    XFX: **exists**
    Gamers Nexus with three videos: *I'm about to end this company's whole career.*

  • @constantine4357
    @constantine4357 Před 4 lety +38

    GN: THICC is too hot
    _GN proceed to reduce the thiccness_
    XFX: I see you're not a man of culture, thicc things are meant to be hot...

  • @SketchbookGuitar
    @SketchbookGuitar Před 4 lety +65

    I fixed my xfx thicc temp problem by buying red devil instead. So far it works

  • @DawidDoesTechStuff
    @DawidDoesTechStuff Před 4 lety +4

    It's pretty weird seeing a Gamer's Nexus video with only 972 views on it. It's like seeing pictures of your parents as kids.

    • @ericsalidbar1693
      @ericsalidbar1693 Před 4 lety

      Yeah that's cause you were here after only exactly 10 so minutes had passed since it was uploaded....

    • @DawidDoesTechStuff
      @DawidDoesTechStuff Před 4 lety +1

      @@ericsalidbar1693 Thanks for clearing that up. :)

    • @ericsalidbar1693
      @ericsalidbar1693 Před 4 lety

      @@DawidDoesTechStuff no problem bud I thought it was strange it only had 3k views and looked back after the upload time so I definitely understand brotha. Hope you're have a good night.

  • @Boorock70
    @Boorock70 Před 4 lety +7

    XFX should thank GN for describing in detail how to do it !
    - Pathetic design, no real engineering padded with cosmetic shit for marketing. Good job XFX.
    Pitty, they were the legend on RX 480/580 and radeon series before...
    Gr8 work GN, you guys ROCK !

    • @brazilpaes
      @brazilpaes Před 4 lety

      I'm using right now a XFX RX 480 GTR, with 580 bios, still cool, still rock, but after that they suck a lot.

  • @xyela
    @xyela Před 4 lety +45

    love that wang wang box haha

  • @RJN9008
    @RJN9008 Před 4 lety +6

    Please review the thicc 3, I have seen videos from others stating that they fixed most of the issues with this product, but I would like to see your input.

  • @Phynellius
    @Phynellius Před 4 lety +1

    I appreciate the level of detail that you have gone into in regards to this card, it's hard to say you're dragging them for no reason when you present such well written commentary about the state of this product

  • @NekoJanz
    @NekoJanz Před 4 lety +30

    alternate video title: Jesus forgives hot thicc boi's sins

  • @sjake333
    @sjake333 Před 4 lety +27

    *XFX on the floor*
    "Stop! He's already dead!"

  • @Ghost3dOne
    @Ghost3dOne Před 4 lety +38

    XFX either built this card in too short of a timeframe, resulting in a crap design or didnt test the designs they had at all.
    I'd wager its a mix of both.

    • @CaveyMoth
      @CaveyMoth Před 4 lety +6

      "Hey, people like bigger graphics cards these days. Let's throw useless plastic all around it and make it huge! Who cares if it harms thermal results."

    • @OnboardG1
      @OnboardG1 Před 4 lety

      Sadly common in engineering companies where management push back on engineering estimates and set unrealistic deadlines.

    • @thehumangerm
      @thehumangerm Před 4 lety

      @@CaveyMoth The extra plastic would be fine if the fans and fin stack accounted better for it. If we made products made purely on performance everyone would be using a test bench and we would have much better fan solutions.

  • @turkepic3637
    @turkepic3637 Před 4 lety +7

    9:00
    Did he just say "Mc Donald's Plastic"?

    • @RapttorX
      @RapttorX Před 4 lety

      i guess you missed the original review

  • @sersoft_corp
    @sersoft_corp Před 4 lety +2

    I am not surprised by these results. I once reduced temps by 6C by removing a piece of plastic off an R9 290 from XFX and 15C+ off VRM temps by literally flipping the thermal pad upside down.

  • @Atreea
    @Atreea Před 4 lety +33

    GN should team up with lots of companies just to make a better product
    i want a "Tech Jesus" edition gpu if it exist lol

    • @albe23
      @albe23 Před 4 lety

      They would have a tough time looking impartial if they made or had part in products that compete against other products they review.

    • @tanmaypanadi1414
      @tanmaypanadi1414 Před 4 lety

      GN GPU back plate for Steve approved gpus every year at every price point

  • @HellenicBM
    @HellenicBM Před 4 lety +9

    Me sees the title : "Ooohboy here we go"

  • @MrLaserpowered
    @MrLaserpowered Před 4 lety +2

    XFX updated the heatsink and bios soon after your review. Can you review this card again and measure the differences?

  • @Feesh116
    @Feesh116 Před 4 lety +8

    Gamers Nexus: FIX THIS AND WE'LL SHUT UP.
    CoolerMaster: Cool, got it.
    XFX: we've been attacked, just buy it for yourself and see.

    • @React2Quick
      @React2Quick Před 4 lety +1

      Also XFX: This is not the first time GN has come after us

  • @Apothecarii
    @Apothecarii Před 4 lety +4

    Bought a 5700 XT Devil instead of the XFX because of these videos. Thank you GN!

  • @pankothompson5903
    @pankothompson5903 Před 4 lety +7

    If it isnt a blower design why even have a shroud just use casefans with 4 pin connectors, brutalist design.

  • @mrtschulias5250
    @mrtschulias5250 Před 4 lety

    I just modded my XFX 5700 XT THICC II: All plastic parts removed except the part holding the fans. Backplate removed. Memory plate (stainless steel) removed. Memory temperature is worse now: 97°C junction (max) & 104°C memory (max) @ Shadow of the Tomb Raider. Before: 97°C junction (max) & 92°C memory (max). I did not alter the fan speed. Using the latest bios available from the XFX website. Edit: I misunderstood and thought they'd removed the memory plate too. I readded the memory plate and added paste on the contact points of the plate and the cooler. In contrary to Gamers Nexus I did not remove the thermal pads between the memory plate and the cooler.
    Memory temps are improved a lot now - still 92°C max but the average temp is lower. Thank you Gamer Nexus :)

  • @suprecam9880
    @suprecam9880 Před 4 lety +1

    I love the nonchalant nature of Gamers Nexus' humor. It's just right.. Keep being awesome! Love your videos.

  • @damysticalone87
    @damysticalone87 Před 4 lety +1

    I'm not a pro pc builder, techniquer, IT-Specialist or whatever, but I don't like the messup of thermal pastes, that's why I would go this: first a thin thermal pad, then on that a thin copper and then on the copper again a thin thermal pad, to avoid scratches by the copper. Just my thoughts about thermal paste. I just like noiceless passive cooling (material+heatspreader and ofc airbreath).

  • @nobody1194
    @nobody1194 Před 4 lety

    Companies should pay Gamers Nexus for fixing their product really. I bought the H500 Mesh from CM and I know now I'm loving the case because the folks at GN helped it to where it is today. Otherwise I'd be staring at an acrylic front window blocking the 2x200mm fans...

  • @omegaelixir
    @omegaelixir Před 4 lety +36

    Steve's hair is THICC

    • @Alchemist37
      @Alchemist37 Před 4 lety +4

      and looking very conditioned :)

    • @RNG-999
      @RNG-999 Před 4 lety +4

      @@Alchemist37 I feel like his hair is the opposite of conditioned, fam.

  • @drackar
    @drackar Před 4 lety +1

    So what i'm reading is, if you find one of these on a steep discount somewhere, you can drastically improve the performance with a screwdriver and a tube of thermal paste and a recycling bin.

    • @JuanMendez335
      @JuanMendez335 Před 4 lety

      I'm gonna do it...I got Thermal Grizzly's Kryonaut paste

  • @nutterztube
    @nutterztube Před 4 lety +13

    Steve, please review Zotac graphics cards, too.

    • @n0vac09
      @n0vac09 Před 4 lety +1

      Knaughty F Zotac 1060 gang checking in

  • @HELLienadO
    @HELLienadO Před 4 lety

    I believe that plastic layer on the backplate doesn't allow a good heat transfer from the thermalpads, I removed it on mine, a pain in the ass to remove the glue residue, so I only cleaned where there was going to be contact. I also thought that the plastic shroud was trapping heat, this video proved it.

  • @lethalron11
    @lethalron11 Před 4 lety +2

    are you guys planning on doing a review on the 5700xt thicc 3?

  • @Heldermaior
    @Heldermaior Před 4 lety

    And this is why GN is the best youtube tech channel. They not only find the problems, they fix them. You guys hiring?

  • @Plus_Escapee
    @Plus_Escapee Před 4 lety +4

    Big Manufacturers; We don't want to pay workers too much.
    Also Big Manufacturers; Why won't anyone work for us??

  • @mjc0961
    @mjc0961 Před 4 lety +1

    13:43 - That company was quite likely not NVIDIA, at least if the teardowns of the RTX series are anything to go by.

  • @BAdventures
    @BAdventures Před 4 lety

    Good investigation and report. Ironically I saw a stripped down version advertised in Australia. The HIS Radeon RX 5700 XT IceQ X2 graphics card for review. PCB designed by Pine Group, XFX parent company.

  • @patrickdergroenr1247
    @patrickdergroenr1247 Před 4 lety +1

    I ordered a 5700xt Thicc 2 yesterday. I heard they fixed actually every problem with the card and drivers are top now too. I got it for 369€ including shipping.

    • @patrickdergroenr1247
      @patrickdergroenr1247 Před 4 lety +1

      2 Months later and i wanted to give a headsup. The Thicc 2 Ultra was actual trash, dont buy it. The contact to the coldplate still sucks balls.
      Refunded the first one and the second one also had the same problem. Refunded the second one too and got me a Nitro+. I undervolted it to 1.1v and 2100mhz real boost.

  • @d3115uxor
    @d3115uxor Před 4 lety +4

    you would think when buying a card with the meme name THICC, it should in fact be large, but the caviot starts when the "thicc" cooler doesn't cool!

  • @ilovelamplongtime
    @ilovelamplongtime Před 4 lety +3

    I’m curious if you feel that they redeemed themselves at all with the THICC III? Seeing good reviews.

    • @ararefiction
      @ararefiction Před 3 lety

      I love mine, although doing an Undervolt keeps it cool in ANY game so far. its OC'd alot outta the box/default
      runs anything 1080 or 1440p and the coolest looking one

  • @larrisAWSOME
    @larrisAWSOME Před 4 lety +1

    Thanks for never following up on any of xfx's attempts on fixing issues with their card and instead sucking off msi for their minor improvements. Good job guys.

    • @GovG33k
      @GovG33k Před 3 lety

      @arrisAWSOME
      Let's see your updated video

  • @doublebuddy7569
    @doublebuddy7569 Před 4 lety

    Gamer Nexus: new video reviewing xfx thicc rx 5700 xt
    Xfx: Aww shit here we go again

  • @BRUXXUS
    @BRUXXUS Před 4 lety +2

    While it wouldn't really be reversible, I would be interested in loading that steel memory plate with some bits of solder and brazing it to the heat pipes and cold plate. Could probably be done fairly easily with a heat gun and some strips of regular solder. The steel shouldn't sink so much heat to make it impossible. 🤔

    • @Zarcondeegrissom
      @Zarcondeegrissom Před 4 lety +2

      better done before filling and closing up the pipes (like they do when making coolers). there are plenty of examples around of what happens when you try to 'reflow' a GPU after the heat pipes or vapor chamber was filled and sealed up (people stuffing cards into the oven without removing the cooler first). Insta expand-a-plate, and broken card, lol.
      FYI, PC heat pipes are often designed to operate up to, "up to" 125c, the temp needed to melt solder is closer to over 450c, that's a tad beyond 125c, lol.

    • @BRUXXUS
      @BRUXXUS Před 4 lety +1

      @@Zarcondeegrissom Ohhhyeahh.... heat pipes sealed with water vapor + heating to solder melt temps = BOOM! Yeah... that's probably not a smart idea now that you mention it. 🤣

  • @lordsqueak
    @lordsqueak Před 4 lety

    One argument For testing noise normalized is that it will be equal to real world conditions.
    If someone thinks the card is too damn noisy, they might reduce the fan speeds, and if they aren't bothered by noise, they might increase fan speeds to improve the thermals. This is the simplest way for a user to tweak their cards, and probably the first thing they will try, unless they go directly into overclocking, etc.
    All in all, this is a highly relevant test.

  • @panzerschreckpete
    @panzerschreckpete Před 4 lety

    This sort of content is why I'm more than happy to grab merch as often as I can afford it, regardless of shipping. Love your work to educate and provide solutions for the community.

  • @LuisAFigueroa
    @LuisAFigueroa Před 4 lety +3

    XFX should have stick with their GTR type of cards. My RX580 GTR works very well and never goes over 65 under heavy loads.

  • @S3lvah
    @S3lvah Před 3 lety

    So I got this card when it came out because (maybe thanks to scathing reviews?) it was a lot cheaper than all other AiB 5700s.
    I was waiting for XFX to send me the THICC III copper memory plate for most of this time, but they ghosted on all non-XT owners because of COVID.
    Today, I finally got over that disappointment and opened the card to remove the McD plastic & backplate, repaste and tighten properly. I also adjusted a thermal pad on the memory plate that was even worse positioned than the one in this vid; it only made contact with 1 of the 4 cooling pipes (???).
    After testing before & after with Superposition and 5 min Furmark, the GPU temp went down 20 °C, hotspot by 10-15 °C and memory by 10 °C. These are rough values, as there were some small differences in fan speed & starting temp. Absolutely ridiculous improvements for what barely qualifies as "modding." Highly, highly recommended.

  • @The2808erik
    @The2808erik Před 4 lety +2

    I want the performance oriented and clean look of xfx's Radeon 200 series cards back.

  • @ghostgameing4622
    @ghostgameing4622 Před 4 lety +1

    This Thing looks Really good. I like it. i had some old XFX hd 6850 in crossfire . reason i got them was the Double Lifetime Warranty !!!

  • @justinlynn
    @justinlynn Před 4 lety +1

    Protip: make sure marketing does not dictate system thermal design.

  • @lobotekuani
    @lobotekuani Před 4 lety +3

    Will you do a review and teardown of the MSI Mech versions of the RX 5700 series?

  • @chincemagnet
    @chincemagnet Před 4 lety +1

    STAINLESS STEEL memory plate?!! Who is the idiot who thought that would be acceptable?

  • @user-du9zf3jj1z
    @user-du9zf3jj1z Před 4 lety +1

    4:47 techjesus about to lay the smackdown on some fools.

  • @DKTAz00
    @DKTAz00 Před 4 lety +3

    So if they just did the extra step of stamping the backplate over the memory, to bring it closer, you could get away with normal sized heatpads :D

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios Před 4 lety +1

      Is the backplate even metal? It looks so shiny, could be plastic.
      But yeah some downstamping and fins (to keep it as thicc) would make for some awesome visuals.

    • @JoshuaCBrown
      @JoshuaCBrown Před 4 lety

      @@HappyBeezerStudios I thought I heard the backplate make a metallic ding sound when he removed it in the teardown video, but I might be misremembering.

  • @t3servo545
    @t3servo545 Před 4 lety +1

    Have you tested the THICC III ultra from Best Buy? It seems that everyone loves it.

  • @silenthero2795
    @silenthero2795 Před 4 lety +2

    Why does my line of sight gravitate to that pink box?

  • @ToastyHeresStreamArchive
    @ToastyHeresStreamArchive Před 4 lety +1

    So, if I'm comparing the charts and doing the math right, repasting, with no plate and no plastic actually puts this right beside the Gigabyte, Sapphire Pulse, and Sapphire Nitro @220w for GPU junction thermals?

  • @MrFenri
    @MrFenri Před 4 lety +8

    The reviews for this on NewEgg seem fake as hell.

    • @phil9256
      @phil9256 Před 4 lety

      I love this card and am enjoying it daily. This card takes on every single game I thrown at it with not a single issue. I am extremely happy with my purchase. I come to these videos to try and understand what the hell they are talking about. I don't really understand half of what he is saying but I know one thing and its that my thicc is exceeding my expectations so I guess its irrelevant to watch someone bashing it.

    • @k.bobcat7567
      @k.bobcat7567 Před 4 lety

      @@evalangley3985 weird because my thicc ii reaches high 80s on certain games even with fan curves adjusted and i even tried undervolting. i think i just got a crappy card cause it reached high temps even though it was brand new.

  • @HappyBeezerStudios
    @HappyBeezerStudios Před 4 lety

    When do manufacturers learn, that a bit piece of metal, also called backplate, does a great job at dissipating heat from connected chips.
    Like, using a metal backplate and putting thermal pads between it and the RAM chips on the backside of the card.

  • @1soupasaurus
    @1soupasaurus Před 4 lety +1

    "It's still better than an air gap, probably." Lmao, this made me laugh harder than it should have.

  • @user-lp7qo9cl8w
    @user-lp7qo9cl8w Před 4 lety +1

    I love how honest you guys are.

  • @TheNiteNinja19
    @TheNiteNinja19 Před 4 lety

    the XFX 290x Double dissipation edition had the same black with chrome accents and that beautiful look. And that cooler was double slot and was able to tame the Hawaii core underneath way more efficiently. They did it then, there's no excuse they couldn't do it now.

  • @ericdeltoro8484
    @ericdeltoro8484 Před 4 lety

    Wouldn't making the top part of the plastic covering vented with some slats also improve temps by giving heat and air a way out? Obviously, not having the plastic there to begin with would be best but if they wanted to keep the plastic there for looks, making it vented might still yield an improvement to thermals.

  • @thorrollosson
    @thorrollosson Před 4 lety

    The note you had on the reduction in workers available in Shenzen is fascinating. I recently was in the market for a 2080ti, and as an owner of the Gigabyte Aorus 1080ti (not the Xtreme, just the 11G), being overall very happy with it, I first looked at the direct 2080ti SKU that was available.
    The price was pretty awful to begin with, but aside from that, the entire design was a very clear step down from the preceding Aorus model. The heatsink design, backplate, and shroud were all much lower tier. From the extremely robust 1080ti design, the 2080ti Aorus looks about like the more mid-range 1070/1080 AIB variants in overall cooling design. PCB wise it still seems like a fairly premium product, but everything outward from there was a decliine. Ended up going with Zotac this time around, as the performance vs $ was better with what I had to choose from.

  • @coreylee8823
    @coreylee8823 Před 4 lety +1

    I bought an XFX RX 590 Fatboy,, had to return it to Amazon. After two minutes of gaming my whole system would crash. I adjusted the fan curve to have the fans run at 100% always, couldn't even have a conversation around my PC with it like that, and it still crashed!! The coil whine was so bad too, and my PC sounded like a 18 wheelers engine when it was cooling down. Anyways I wanted a red system but after I got my refund I went and bought a 2060 Super, felt a bit sketch about AMD GPUs, still some issues but I think I have them all fixed now, driver related. I was going to get a 5700 but in Canada the aftermarket cards still aren't available last time I checked, happy with my 2060 regardless. Point is blows my mind how they sold that shit to me when it wouldn't function at all, and I was worried I was melting my motherboard lol

  • @xxgg
    @xxgg Před 4 lety

    I love these types of follow up videos.
    I recently upgraded from GTX 970 to Asus TUF Gaming RX 5700 XT and coil whine is so much more annoying.
    Not specifically the Radeon cards but could you either talk or make video about coil whines in general? Why?How? Can it be fixed by manufacturers? etc...
    Thanks, cheers!

  • @Albert24346
    @Albert24346 Před 4 lety +1

    Man I bought the THICC III on Black Friday, it was cheap, 390€, it actually has copper plate for the memory instead of steel, and three fans, and I thought I'd be better, but thermals are still pretty bad and now I don't know if I should return it or just remove the useless plastic.
    I mean, temps decreased A LOT with this solution, so much that it could actually be a great card, if I get those results (-6º Memory, -13º GPU edge and -7º VRM Mos).
    I don't know what to do.

    • @Albert24346
      @Albert24346 Před 4 lety +1

      I decided to return it.
      Even thought it looks like they improved the memory plate, now copper, that part actually got the worst results. 92ºC after just 10 minutes of gameplay! With fans turning at 60% speed, 2047 RPM! GPU Edge was ok 73º, VRMOS meh 82º, hottest point 94º. How's that possible? 92º and 94º with 3 fans at 2000 RPM? Apart from the plastic probably making the air run in circles inside the card, a faulty mount I guess.
      But the most frustrating of all was not being able to set up manual fan speed in Afterburner, because it produced flickering. This card doesn't want to allow you to change the fan curve. Now I understand Steve's frustration even more than before, and I think that's XFX's fault.

    • @patrickdergroenr1247
      @patrickdergroenr1247 Před 4 lety

      @@Albert24346 I ordered a 5700xt Thicc 2 yesterday. I heard they fixed actually every problem with the card and drivers are top now too. I got it for 369€ including shipping.

  • @iankemp2627
    @iankemp2627 Před 4 lety +1

    Hey Steve, XFX supposedly fixed the THICC II cooler (ref www.techpowerup.com/260696/xfx-revises-rx-5700-xt-thicc-ii-cooler-offers-replacements-to-current-owners), IMO it would be useful for you to do a follow-up review of that new design to see if they ACTUALLY fixed it.

  • @SerpentXTech
    @SerpentXTech Před 4 lety

    I should be releasing my vid on Modifications made to Asrock Challenger RX 5700 to improve thermals, prob this weekend. A huge improvement for me, as I run Memory intensive applications and dropped from 104c to 92c.

  • @peterjansen4826
    @peterjansen4826 Před 4 lety

    I speculated already that air would get trapped under that plastic, plastic doesn't have a lot of holes for air to pass through. Next time XFX should put functionality first and only within those constraints work on the looks, or not at all.

  • @e3446
    @e3446 Před 4 lety +4

    When it comes to mounting pressure, they could use a torque screwdriver and the pressure would at least be equal across all cards.

  • @UrSoMeanBoss
    @UrSoMeanBoss Před 4 lety

    youtuber: "fix it"
    company: "its fine"
    y: "here I did it for you"
    c: "FUCK OFF MAN ITS FINE"

  • @Pick_Lock
    @Pick_Lock Před 4 lety +3

    I've owned one XFX before, never again.

  • @eocrews92
    @eocrews92 Před 4 lety +2

    Btw xfx listened and you should applaud them! Just got the new dd ultra it’s all metal and cooling is great! I call for a retest!

  • @jonnybravo420
    @jonnybravo420 Před 4 lety +2

    Hi,. I love your content! Was wondering if you plan to do any video on the newer improved Thicc III card? I value your opinion and would love to hear what you have to say about it!

    • @DeViLzzz2006
      @DeViLzzz2006 Před 4 lety +1

      They did a video about the THICC III Ultra where finally XFX got it right but have searched and no video on the THICC III. As for others doing reviews of it I wanted to hear it from these guys before I would spend money on the XFX THICC III even if it is at a good price now.

  • @Justsomedude979
    @Justsomedude979 Před 4 lety

    In the first B roll shots is that the new Mousepad!?!?!? I needs one haha.

  • @Timer5Tim
    @Timer5Tim Před rokem

    I would say that XFX did take this feedback to heart. The 6900XT 319 Merc was considered one of the best cards of it's generation for it's air cooling all while looking a lot like the Thicc.

  • @RNG-999
    @RNG-999 Před 4 lety +2

    Just make a good product and then GN won't "come at you" for making a shitty product, XFX.

  • @arvinsim
    @arvinsim Před 4 lety

    Damn, that's some multiple video smackdown on the Thicc right there. No reason to grab one anymore.

  • @CommandLineVulpine
    @CommandLineVulpine Před 4 lety

    One last suggestion that can't be understated.
    Maybe pay the workers more, that would shore up manpower issues.

    • @noxious89123
      @noxious89123 Před 4 lety

      Then they'd have to charge more for their already high-priced card.

  • @The_Nihl
    @The_Nihl Před 4 lety

    13:00
    I have worked in Whirlpool factory, Fridges. 4 on 4 off, days, lates, nights. lasted 2-3 months.
    That wasn't any mentally high amount of screws, but was enough to BLOODY HATE THEM. on QA you unscrew sh*t and screw it back so you do it twice.... ARGH!"

  • @hjackson.92
    @hjackson.92 Před 4 lety

    I'm surprised at the fact that it's difficult to find people to put together these GPUs in Shenzhen. Kind of ironic. Perhaps people in the U.S. could help out, maybe have new factories here set up so that these cards can be put together the right way.

  • @chadmckean9026
    @chadmckean9026 Před 4 lety +1

    Curious how much a aluminum sheet would improve temps, linus could CNC one for you or you could use a nibbler on a piece of aluminum scrap from a sheet metal shop

  • @da133993
    @da133993 Před 4 lety

    I am confused, if the backplate is further from the PCB. Wouldn't air flow better in the case with fans running from front to back?

  • @MTGOFerret
    @MTGOFerret Před 4 lety +5

    XFX: Waaaaa GN is mean to us
    GN: Hold my beer, Imma ruin this kids career.

  • @vossli1074
    @vossli1074 Před 4 lety +1

    Does GDDR just run hotter thsn DDR4? My RAM starts throwing out major errors hotter than 50 degrees

  • @WrexBF
    @WrexBF Před 4 lety +3

    Instructions not clear, screwdriver accidentally dropped on the GPU die.

  • @richdixon
    @richdixon Před rokem

    Why would they use a presumably more expensive and less conductive stainless steel plate instead of an aluminum plate on the memory?

  • @michaelmonstar4276
    @michaelmonstar4276 Před 3 lety

    hmm - My XFX 5700 (that is non-XT) reaches to just over 100 degrees in Radeon overlocked mode.
    I suppose I should do something about my card as well. - It's a good performer, but the fans just go nuts now and then when it's constantly sitting around 95-100 degrees with the most demanding games and it's really fatiguing to play with, even with half-open headphones. - That said, I sit right next to the case and it's very "open" with more than half of the walls being mesh. - On top of that, I've even put two 140mm fans as intakes right onto the GPU's own fans, but it only helps a little bit.