What was the Battle of Warns/Starum? | Holland's Invasion of Frisia (1345)

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  • čas přidán 23. 09. 2022
  • The Battle of Warns (English), Slag By Warns (Frisian), Slag Bij Warns(Dutch) was one of the greatest battles fought in the Medieval Period in the Netherlands. Count William (Willem) IV with an army of Hollandic, Flemish, and French knights sailed across the Zuiderzee with the intention of annexing Middle Frisia, present-day Fryslân. This army met fierce resistance from the local Frisians who took up arms and did battle with them in the region around Warns, Laaksum and Starum (Stavoren).
    Today the battlefield of the Battle of Warns at the Reaklif is the site of a commemoration every last Saturday in September by Frisians from all over Frisia.
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Komentáře • 199

  • @g3heathen209
    @g3heathen209 Před rokem +86

    "There two things I can't stand in this world, people who are intolerant of other people's cultures and the Dutch." A Frisian proably.

    • @historywithhilbert146
      @historywithhilbert146  Před rokem +8

      Hahaha what a great reference ;)

    • @ruberxwibebadhi
      @ruberxwibebadhi Před rokem +3

      @@historywithhilbert146 please make a video on iran right now it disserves most of the attention.

    • @methos4866
      @methos4866 Před rokem

      As someone from the south of Limburg i'm inclined to agree.

    • @bpdbhp1632
      @bpdbhp1632 Před rokem

      @@ruberxwibebadhi no shut up

    • @CnutStolen
      @CnutStolen Před rokem +2

      This is actually a quote from T Herman Zweibel, publisher emeritus of The Onion, the world's foremost news source

  • @ItsJelmer
    @ItsJelmer Před rokem +61

    I've been at Reaklif twice in my life. The first time was when I was around 12 years old I think and I remember asking my dad what actually happened there. He told me "Jir ha we de Hollanners ferslein", which translates to: 'this is the place where we defeated the Hollanders'. The medieval Frisians fought and died for our freedom and preserving their story is what we are indebted to them. I think this place, standing on the hill and looking over the open grasslands, first sparked my interest in Frisian history. I (now 20 years old) study to become a history teacher in Ljouwert (Leeuwarden) and only now realize how little we actually teach about the medieval history of Frisia and the other regions of the low countries. It's like a gap in the history books between the reign of Charlemagne and the 80-years war (more then 750 years later).
    That's also the reason why I love the videos you have made. It makes Frisian history so much more accessible to the public comparing to digging through Wikipedia or buying tonnes of books. Well that was my really long comment, Tige tank Hilbert!🔵⚪❤

    • @historywithhilbert146
      @historywithhilbert146  Před rokem +8

      Tankewol foar it dielen Jelmer!
      That sounds similar to my first time at Reaklif which was also my first time in Fryslân full stop. My dad took us on a road trip past all the sights and told me the story of the Battle of Warns and the subsequent events surrounding it. Great memories! Really good to read that you're studying to become a history teacher in Ljouwert and pass on some of these stories.
      As on aside, if you're not already, we've set up a group on Facebook called "Early Medieval Frisia and Frisians" for people interested in the Middle Ages and Viking Age in Frisia - feel free to join if that sounds like something you're interested in!
      I'm going to be doing a lot more Frisian-themed videos in the near future so if you could share this where you can that would be much appreciated.
      Tige tank foar dyn stipe, en ik hoopje oant gau!

    • @dpt6849
      @dpt6849 Před rokem

      If Zwarte Piet goes. Frylan will follow.
      You"ve understood that quite well with the bus full of blm going to Fryslan to ruin the coming of Sinterklaas a few years ago😂

    • @ItsJelmer
      @ItsJelmer Před rokem +6

      @@dpt6849 Firstly, you did not even spell Fryslân right. I think it's quite ironic to refer to the zwarte Piet discussion when talking about Frisian culture, as if a tradition around an Anatolian priest is so important to the survival of Frisian culture. And the black-coloured helper only first seen around the 1850's; it has nothing to do with Frisian culture at all.
      I think we Frisians should learn from our histories and cultures of the past, to not recreate the same controversies it had. We Frisians are proud and stubborn which are our strengths, but also our weaknesses. I think to maintain our culture and identity, we need to be more accepting of other cultures. We should treat other cultures with the same Frisian freedom, that we want ourselves to have as well. In the end only we can destroy our own culture, not others.

    • @dpt6849
      @dpt6849 Před rokem +4

      @@ItsJelmer I only forget the thingy above the a?
      Man, man, man.
      With Zwarte Piet I understood that it is more complicated because its roots aren't Frisian. I was talking about how the locals dealt with that situation. It is a sign of resillience. Just like playing the Frisian anthem in the Abe Lenstra before matches of the local club. Yes. Cambuur perhaps will disagree.
      And how about Thialf? Is it not a Frisian thing? Those horse on the ice to celebrate a tournament winner. Are those not Frisian?
      How about preserving 'kaatsen'?
      The Chameleon? They way they describe the ways of life in Fryslân? Don't you think it has roots that date back to that time? Like the part about freedoms? I know the adventures of Hylke and Sietse with their boat sparked the imagination of youths even outside Fryslân. Alltough I am not Frysian myself I enjoyed those books.
      So don't see my posts as an attack on Fryslân. More like people outside the present day province of Friesland people have noticed Frisians have done great things (the only ones in westerm Europe mainland who stopped blitzkrieg tactics at Kornwederzand). I think there is more appreciation for Frisian cultural aspects than is known.

    • @toade1583
      @toade1583 Před rokem

      Ferslein sounds a lot like slain in English which means "killed/slayed"

  • @cornelkittell9926
    @cornelkittell9926 Před rokem +7

    I really enjoy your videos on Frisian history. As a Frisian-American (birth name Hiemstra) it's great to see the history of my ancestors. I hope to return to our village of Opende some day.

  • @joalexsg9741
    @joalexsg9741 Před rokem +1

    Tankje wol for the content in English! Fryslân boppe, much love from this Brazilian!💙🤍❤🙏🙏🙏

  • @RoNPlayer
    @RoNPlayer Před rokem +5

    Love to hear about Frisia. Such an interesting niche culture in Europe, often overlooked.

  • @bidus3115
    @bidus3115 Před rokem +26

    Crazy to see this as a West-Frisian, always thought my home town was dull, if you have any info of medieval times in Andijk I’d love to know

    • @historywithhilbert146
      @historywithhilbert146  Před rokem +8

      There's always interesting things going on when you dig down deeper! The Frisian name for your town is Oandyk while in the West-Frisian dialect it's Andoik as you may already know.

    • @pigboiii
      @pigboiii Před rokem

      I grew up in Hoogwoud and my best friend's dad is mad into local history and you would be suprised how much cool history there is in this region.

    • @1628KirsyBoogy
      @1628KirsyBoogy Před rokem +1

      Sorry for the english speaking readers, but I reply in dutch cuz my spelling corrector annoys me, cant change it, Im a succker with computers, too lazy to figure it out, Im sorry.
      Als je meer over jouw regio wilt weten richt de aandacht op Medemblik en, misschien, Enkhuizen.
      Het is een gok hoor, maar ik weet dat Medemblik openbare stadsarchieven heeft. Mensen in steden leerde eerder lezen en schrijven dan de boeren, dus volgens mijn redenatie zou je het beste in die hoek kunnen zoeken om zo ver mogelijk terug in de tijd te gaan. Ik neem aan dat Andijk altijd boerenland is geweest met weinig tot geen schrijvers-lezers, correct me if Im wrong. Als Andijkers zelf niet schreven, dan maar kijken wat anderen erover schreven.
      Wie skkroift die bloift.. in ieder geval in de geschiedenisboeken.
      Groeten van een Westfries in Hoorn

  • @p_mouse8676
    @p_mouse8676 Před rokem +38

    It's very fascinating and very sad how little of these stories about our ancestors is being told or being taught at schools.
    It feels like those stories are being shoved under the rug as much as possible.
    Which is sad, because quite some people are actually from Frisian descent (without probably even knowing it).
    But not only that, it explains so much more about the connection we have with neighbouring countries.
    Which is a subject that is actually even very important for some countries (incl Europe) even today!

    • @historywithhilbert146
      @historywithhilbert146  Před rokem +4

      It's really a shame they're not teaching this history in schools. Out of interest, what are they focusing on in history classes?

    • @p_mouse8676
      @p_mouse8676 Před rokem +5

      @@historywithhilbert146 I don't exactly know, "middelbare school" has been a while😉.
      Back in the day it was mostly just about how "Holland" conquered everything (aka, cool look at us), as well as explaining the general overview back in the day. It was most definitely NOT about all the failures.
      I do hear some stories from like nephews etc, but I don't get the impression it has changed an awful lot.
      Might be interesting to get some books, or just call up/email some people/schools and investigate.
      In general I get the impression that mostly the Roman empire gets a lot of attention and credits during that period in time?
      Which is kinda strange from a West-German point of view, since these ancestors would have a very different history.

    • @kimashitawa8113
      @kimashitawa8113 Před rokem +1

      @Black Lesbian Poet ?

    • @sebe2255
      @sebe2255 Před rokem +2

      @@p_mouse8676 yeah, even though high school is a few years ago for me as well, it was distinctly a Hollandic history. It goes Romans (no mention of anything Dutch) > brief explanation about feudalism > 80 years war (the Holland pov starts) > colonial period and enlightenment >ww2
      The 80 years is basically the starting point for Dutch history in modern history classes, so we just cut out at least 1000 years of reasonably well documented history for no reason

    • @p_mouse8676
      @p_mouse8676 Před rokem +1

      @@sebe2255 Not only that but skipping 1000 years of some very important history that made the Netherlands as it is today!

  • @TheMrFishnDucks
    @TheMrFishnDucks Před rokem +11

    Fascinating history. Looking forward to the next video on the civil war. Keep up the good work.

  • @Quick045
    @Quick045 Před rokem +4

    Would love to see a future video of the son of Willem IV (and namesake), Floris V as he was an important figure in Dutch and Frisian history.

  • @kimashitawa8113
    @kimashitawa8113 Před rokem +13

    About those vaulting spears, i have read about them in the recent exposition about medieval Frisia in the Fries Museum, but damn is it hard to find anything about it online. I was almost starting to believe it was an illusion, glad that you came and confirmed that it wasn't for me. I think they were still in use in the 80 years war too.
    I have also seen those drawings in that Groningse church, the minute i saw those i was intrigued, but of course i could never find anything else about it. They look like some Fantasy warrior class you would see in a game or movie.

    • @historywithhilbert146
      @historywithhilbert146  Před rokem +6

      Yes they've been sort of "semi-mythical" for a while because there were *no* archaeological remains but recently a team of researchers has reanalysed what had been thought to be "candlestick holders" which actually appear to have been the bases of these kletsie polearms. I was recently lucky enough to listen to a talk given by one of them at the Frisian Humanities Conference which is where I found out more information.

    • @Hirosjimma
      @Hirosjimma Před rokem +3

      Recently as in only a few weeks ago an article about it was published. There should be a bit more information available now.
      I might wanna make one (or have one made) for myself to try out.

    • @kimashitawa8113
      @kimashitawa8113 Před rokem +1

      @@historywithhilbert146 Really cool that there really was a kind of uniquely "Frisian" weapon. Like the Japanese with their Katana's and the Scots with the Dirk.

    • @TimDutch
      @TimDutch Před rokem +1

      Hans Mol mentions the vaulting spear in his book called 'De Friese volkslegers 1480-1560'

  • @adrianvasquez4351
    @adrianvasquez4351 Před rokem +4

    As a pole vaulter the Frisian vaulting spear is very interesting. Great video!

  • @robertkamp8712
    @robertkamp8712 Před rokem +3

    Thank-you I heard about the battle, but knew nothing about it. I always thought I knew a lot of Frisian history, but I realized how little I actually knew before I subscribed to your channel.

  • @thomaslanghorst5738
    @thomaslanghorst5738 Před rokem +9

    Very good, informative video, as usual.
    There's only one small issue I'd like to smart-ass about, since I'm not 100% sure, if all of your watchers are aware of it (and I know a lot of Germans who aren't, so please forgive me):
    The Prussians William IV had been fighting against had not very much to do with the Prussians of Frederick the Great or Kaiser Wilhelm II but were the native pagan (hence the crusades) baltic people who lived in the region that would be called after them "Prussia". In German we call them Pruzzen or Prußen while in English afaik you *can* call them "Prussians", but imo "Old Prussians" or "Baltic Prussians" would be far better terms since they avoid any confusion at least to some degree.

  • @Lavenderlore1043
    @Lavenderlore1043 Před rokem +17

    I have a great respect for Frisia. From the good relations my Norse Ancestors had with them, to their struggle for independence in the 19th century through to today, they are a strong and capable folk. Much appreciated for you sharing this information. I hadn't heard about this battle.

    • @historywithhilbert146
      @historywithhilbert146  Před rokem +3

      Glad you found the video interesting!

    • @Solidoaf
      @Solidoaf Před rokem +8

      Sorry our struggle of independence today? Think you're over romanticizing it way to much. Tribalism is fun I guess, but there is no real current day hate or move towards independence from the Netherlands, just a move to preserve Frisian culture and language. It's not like any province is oppressed like earlier centuries. And there is no Catalonian like movement towards independence

    • @rutgerw.
      @rutgerw. Před rokem +2

      @@Solidoaf Did you miss all the farmers and others, many from the provinces, protesting against oppression from Holland and the monarchy? Something is definitely brewing🤪

    • @Solidoaf
      @Solidoaf Před rokem +2

      @@rutgerw. How's that oppression form "Holland"? The government is chosen from every person who has voted regardless which province he or she lives. I voted for parties that want to curb the ridiculous bloated livestock that we have and I'm from "the provinces". And I agree with them, we have to many farmers who, unintentionally, destroy my province by having way to much cattle per km2. While 80%+ of their produced food is destined for export; ergo for money. So they're enacting the will of me and other fellow voters who gave them a mandate. Also the government has to act, the judiciary branch has ruled that it must be reduced. Unless you want to break up the trias politica I have no idea what the government should do differently. It's essential that they're ruled by law.
      Also since we're a constitutional monarchy I have no idea why you bring it up
      This weird tribalistic and "under siege" mentality is very weak and mentally immature.

    • @Lavenderlore1043
      @Lavenderlore1043 Před rokem

      @@Solidoaf well true it isn't as pronounced as it was before. But to my knowledge the Netherlands doesn't recognize Frisians as a distinct group. Also what of Groep fan Auwerk? Is one of their goals not to achieve independence for Frisia?

  • @MonsieurDean
    @MonsieurDean Před rokem +2

    You find such fascinating history in some of the most niche corners of Europe.

  • @5thMilitia
    @5thMilitia Před rokem +15

    Cool video. There isn't enough Dutch Medieval history on CZcams. The Hoekse and Kabeljauwse Twisten are maybe also interesting to cover

    • @kimashitawa8113
      @kimashitawa8113 Před rokem +3

      It's a shame, because there are some really interesting stories and individuals from that period.

    • @wilcolindeboom5588
      @wilcolindeboom5588 Před rokem +3

      Maybe you would like the content of the channel background history, it tells some great Frisian-Dutch history.

    • @5thMilitia
      @5thMilitia Před rokem +1

      @@wilcolindeboom5588 Thanks

  • @Jobe-13
    @Jobe-13 Před rokem +1

    This is so interesting. And the background music is awesome

  • @TeunisD
    @TeunisD Před rokem +2

    Thank you, great work. What would be cool to add, is to also show what regions self-identified with 'Frisia' during that time, for example in Schleswig-Holstein or Helgoland.

  • @theicepickthatkilledtrotsk658

    Congratulations to all Frisians.

  • @marcusvaughn7019
    @marcusvaughn7019 Před rokem +3

    There does not seem to be much if any solidarity between Nord, Ost, and West Frisians during the medieval times. My Great-grandfather was born in Bredstedt, and we still have one religious book printed in 1842 that we believe is in the old language. Today Bredstedt is home to the Nordfriisk Instituut, which is designed to preserve the language, heritage and culture of the Nord Frisians. Grandfather still carried on his Nord Frisian name, Boy Boysen.

  • @mikeblei6870
    @mikeblei6870 Před rokem +1

    Frisian and Holland roots here. Mostly proud at my Frisian though ;)

  • @markusskram4181
    @markusskram4181 Před rokem

    Cool!

  • @Vonononie
    @Vonononie Před rokem +5

    Alternate history did an episode on flags recently and started by saying that the people who started red/white/blue flags were the Dutch. Disappointingly the anthem didn’t strike up

    • @historywithhilbert146
      @historywithhilbert146  Před rokem +3

      A great shame indeed! Perhaps I shall write a strongly-worded email ;)

    • @Vonononie
      @Vonononie Před rokem +2

      @@historywithhilbert146 I was ready to break into song!

  • @jefflanam
    @jefflanam Před rokem +1

    Could you do a video about the Baltic Crusades? The mention of WIlliam fighting in Prussia made me think of it. Thanks for your videos.

  • @MHWdJ
    @MHWdJ Před rokem +11

    Waarom word deze geschiedenis niet gedeeld op scholen in Nederland? dit is de eerste keer dat ik van deze geschiedenis hoor.
    Why isn't this history taught in dutch schools? This is the first time I've heared of this history.

    • @p_mouse8676
      @p_mouse8676 Před rokem +3

      I was thinking exactly the same way!
      I guess the shoving under the rug and lets just forget about it approach, works well.
      It's pretty clear what direction Holland was going for at that time?

    • @historywithhilbert146
      @historywithhilbert146  Před rokem +4

      Heel jammer is dat inderdaad, hopelijk kunnen wij daar verandering in brengen.

    • @alansmithee8831
      @alansmithee8831 Před rokem

      @MHWdJ. I feel that way about "the harrying of the North" in England. The Norman influence was not as welcome and the Domesday Book records much of it as "waste" as in layed waste. I enjoy the comments on these videos as I find I can read them. I am never quite sure if it is because I grew up with Yorkshire dialect or because I can speak German a bit, so as to have heard "Du bist Hollander?" more than once.

    • @methos4866
      @methos4866 Před rokem

      Hetzelfde geldt voor Limburg. Ik heb nooit wat gehoord over onze geschiedenis. Heel veel gedoe over de Hollanders en hun gouden eeuw onzin maar natuurlijk maar nooit wat over ons.

    • @sebe2255
      @sebe2255 Před rokem

      Waarschijnlijk omdat wat wel gedeeld wordt al amper blijft hangen bij 90% van de scholieren

  • @alansmithee8831
    @alansmithee8831 Před rokem +6

    Hello Hilbert. Interesting to see another video on Frisia. A history one this time too. No Dutch anthem and flag this time to muddy things up even more though. Since you are into reenactment, how about a demonstration of the pole vaulting?

    • @historywithhilbert146
      @historywithhilbert146  Před rokem

      Well if you're interested in seeing it in action there is actually a video of it here:
      www.omropfryslan.nl/fy/nijs/1167502/in-spear-en-in-pols-yn-ien-de-kletsy-wie-it-wapen-foar-de-midsiuwske-fries

    • @jeddaniels2283
      @jeddaniels2283 Před rokem

      The dutch flag is on par with the Union Jack as a statement piece.

  • @johnmvanstaveren6134
    @johnmvanstaveren6134 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I have often wondered about my early ancestors considering my last name (Staveren) and they in the 17th, 18th and part of the 19th century being schippers.

  • @RensOtteweyn
    @RensOtteweyn Před rokem +1

    Never underestimate the power of lightness, count Wimpie IV.

  • @johanvangelderen6715
    @johanvangelderen6715 Před rokem

    I just noticed this video suggestion.
    I'll watch it soon.
    I was born in Den Haag in the mid 1950s.
    My parents and I immigrated to the USA when I was five years old. I can understand Dutch perfectly I can read most of it, but only slowly.
    I do have Friesian ancestors dating back 150 years or so.

  • @floris3239
    @floris3239 Před rokem +4

    Nice to see Enkhuizen written in West Frisian. 😊

    • @historywithhilbert146
      @historywithhilbert146  Před rokem +2

      For areas where Frisia was spoken into the Middle Ages I try always to give the name in Frisian if I can :)

  • @CrashperM
    @CrashperM Před rokem +1

    I’m from west friesland! It would be cool if you made something on king radboud

  • @gerrevandermeer7500
    @gerrevandermeer7500 Před rokem +4

    Did you already made a video about the Slach by Baduhenna Wâld? I am not sure though. To me I find that the most emotionally bonded battle that got my utter most attention. Especially when you hear the reason why they had to fight against them. It was I believe around the year 28.
    And knowing Baduhenna was also a mythical goddess that Frisians believed in is pretty wild to me. A mythical woman that swerves in that forest and could turn into a raven. Awesome story if you tell me!

    • @kimashitawa8113
      @kimashitawa8113 Před rokem +1

      I've heard about Baduhenna, but where did you read that she can turn into a raven and stuff? Just me being curious.

    • @gerrevandermeer7500
      @gerrevandermeer7500 Před rokem +1

      @@kimashitawa8113 I read it in history articles and I had an interview with historician Han Nijdam and he told some stuff about it. Han Nijdam is specialized in ancient Frisian history.

    • @kimashitawa8113
      @kimashitawa8113 Před rokem

      @@gerrevandermeer7500 Oh that's pretty sick

  • @arnoldwiegersma7663
    @arnoldwiegersma7663 Před 2 měsíci

    Can you make a video about hessel van martena?

  • @jkyeah8033
    @jkyeah8033 Před rokem +1

    Can we have a episode on the Frisan freedoms

  • @johnkilmartin5101
    @johnkilmartin5101 Před rokem

    Thanks Hilbert, now I have to try a frank wrapped in a danish. This could possibly be the only thing better than a deep fried Mars bar.

  • @kimashitawa8113
    @kimashitawa8113 Před rokem +5

    "The only Dutch Holy Roman Emperor" are we forgetting Charles V? (Yeah i know he is technically Flemish🤓) but still.

    • @historywithhilbert146
      @historywithhilbert146  Před rokem +3

      Point taken!

    • @sebe2255
      @sebe2255 Před rokem +1

      Because he was a Habsburg most people stop reading after that and assume he was German. But yeah there was even a similar revolt to the Dutch revolt in Spain against his rule as a result of Charles promoting Dutch and Flemish nobles and clergy in Castile

  • @itspopo1484
    @itspopo1484 Před rokem

    Can you make a video about the kashubians?

  • @nightwatcher114
    @nightwatcher114 Před rokem

    Great vid but what’s the black, orange, and white flag at 18:50?

  • @jamesbodnarchuk3322
    @jamesbodnarchuk3322 Před rokem

    Interesting

  • @caspar_van_walde
    @caspar_van_walde Před rokem

    What a fun video! But two notes:
    What is the origin/ source of the beautiful painting of the kneeling noblemen with the saint at 14:48 ? I especially love the armour clothing combination of the saint!
    Second I wonder about you saying, the Frisians defeating the Hollanders with improvised weapons, while at the same time introducing the Kletsy. Weren't armed militias established yet, at this time and place? Especially in their position as relatively autonomous people, I find it hard to imagine, they were unarmed (especially when compared to cases such as the battle of the golden spurs and the battle of Wisby showing both clearly the peasants were armed, therefore giving little reason to assume differently in the first place. But also by the fact, that there was no government, that would be able to keep one safe in case of any kind of conflict). Or is there explicit evidence for such kind of improvised armament? Really asking out of curiosity, challenging my understanding of the time.

    • @Weda01
      @Weda01 Před rokem +1

      The painting shown at 14:48 is the is called "De heren van Montfoort". It is one of the oldest preserved paintings in the Netherlands dating back to the late 14th century.

    • @caspar_van_walde
      @caspar_van_walde Před rokem +1

      @@Weda01 Thanks for your answer! Now I can enjoy its details.

  • @sten6216
    @sten6216 Před rokem

    Could you do a video on the battle of vronen and / or occupation of "West-friesland" and all the castles (dwang burchten)? Just to keep the frisians in north Holland so the would comply, because of all the uprisings there, Its quite a intresting history, As a west-frisian from Nôrd - Skerwou (Noord-scharwoude) in Langedoik (langedijk) I thank you for giving the west-frisians some recognition. because It's little known we exist, and are seen as joke by Hollanders and frisians alike

  • @loekstrobbe626
    @loekstrobbe626 Před rokem +2

    Yes he did it, topper

  • @charlyvanbuuren2947
    @charlyvanbuuren2947 Před rokem +1

    An interesting figure was the freedom fighter Grote Pier Donia who was 2.15 m tall and led an army of mercenaries from the Duke of Gelderland named de Aremse Zwarte Hoop i believe. He even attacked Medemblik on the Dutch side of the Zuiderzee. But this was a few hundred years later i think...

  • @CommissarMoody1
    @CommissarMoody1 Před rokem +1

    If memory serves, they used those same Spears against an army of Landsknecht. I think they were known as the black band as well. I am probably mistaken.

  • @1saxonwolf
    @1saxonwolf Před rokem

    The rock used as a monument is a symbol of freedom, the Phrygian Cap.

  • @WehrWolf-ev8cy
    @WehrWolf-ev8cy Před rokem

    tobad you didnt used the song slach om warns in this video

  • @fraeisker
    @fraeisker Před rokem

    Please include East- and North Frisia ;) Hella fräej Fräisen! Läiver dōd as slôv! kumpelment ūt Ōstfräisland.

  • @schepvogelk5971
    @schepvogelk5971 Před rokem

    Great. I'm from 'west friesland'. We still have a strong culture, different then the rest of Holland.

  • @jaydenclowers2616
    @jaydenclowers2616 Před rokem

    Please talk about the German Fristian history

  • @LuisFelipe-cz7uw
    @LuisFelipe-cz7uw Před rokem +2

    You can do about the lusitanos ????

  • @EmmettMcFly55
    @EmmettMcFly55 Před rokem

    It's interesting that you present Willem IV as an accomplished warrior, while what I've read of him - particularly in Jaap ter Haar's "Geschiedenis van de Lage Landen", History of the Low Countries - presents him more as a highly impulsive and reckless figure, a playboy who went on those crusades on a whim and spent most of his time partying and buying up curiosities, and who finally died in Friesland because of yet another ill-thought-out venture that left his lands without an heir. The basic facts are the same, but the interpretation is very different. I'll admit that I haven't studied this period closely, but I wonder whether the Hollanders played up his eccentricities to excuse his defeat, or if the Frisians downplayed them and presented him more as a formidable foe so that their victory would look more of an achievement against the odds. (There's always bound to be a little of both, of course.)

  • @Hrng270
    @Hrng270 Před rokem

    The Batavians were an ancient Germanic people who inhabited the territory we know today as the Netherlands. The Batavians are originally from the Rhine delta region and its neighboring islands. The name that identifies this people means excellent land, because of the great fertility of the areas they occupied. They organized themselves in small villages consisting of only six to twelve houses and dedicated themselves to agriculture and cattle raising. Researchers believe that the Batavians were excellent horsemen due to the amount of horse skeletons found in tombs at the time. The region that was occupied by the Batavians, which today is the territory of the Netherlands, came to be called Batavia by the Romans. This same name was used twice more in history, the first occasion was as the name of the capital of the Dutch East Indies and the second occasion refers to the name of the State created by Dutch patriots after the French Revolution, the Republic of Batavia. The Batavians remained in existence for a few more centuries, although they became quite discreet. They only disappear around the year 350 AD when they were incorporated by the Salians. The Dutch people at the beginning, ancient and middle ages and the fusion of 2 basic Germanic peoples: Batavians and Franconian Salians. Today in the 21st century the Dutch and multiethnic people are due to receive immigrants from all continents of the world.

    • @Hrng270
      @Hrng270 Před rokem

      Netherlanders and Frisians ever are were different nations and people and families, and personalities

  • @martychisnall
    @martychisnall Před rokem +3

    Ducth royalty really likes the name Willem don’t they?

  • @gavinmedinaofficial
    @gavinmedinaofficial Před 8 měsíci

    OOH OOH

  • @Iris_and_or_George
    @Iris_and_or_George Před rokem +2

    Celbrating something that happened on the 26th on the 24th of September.... that's why Frisians needed proper rulers🤣😂😘

  • @MrLedeberg
    @MrLedeberg Před rokem

    the frisians were an influence for Ronaldo's (brazilian) hairstyle :)

  • @NoName-yw1pt
    @NoName-yw1pt Před rokem

    What's the difference between Netherlands, Holland, Flanders and Frisia?

    • @pigboiii
      @pigboiii Před rokem +1

      Well that kinda depends on the time period we are talking about but generally speaking.
      The Netherlands is the whole country.
      Holland is the provinces of Noord-Holland and Zuid-Holland.
      Flanders is what is now Belgium (not 100% if its all of it though so correct me if Im wrong).
      Frisia is a province in the north west of the Netherlands.
      So the first the entire country the others are sub-sections of the country (or formerly of the country in the case of Flanders)

    • @sebe2255
      @sebe2255 Před rokem +1

      Netherlands is the country, Holland is a region currently divided into 2 provinces that are part of the Netherlands, North and South Holland.
      Frisia is another province in the Netherlands with its own language and culture. There are some more historically Frisian regions in the Netherlands and Germany and Denmark but the Frisians there are gone.
      Flanders is the Dutch speaking part of Belgium and includes the historical refion of Flanders (from which it gets the name), Brabant and Limburg.

  • @marijntaal1531
    @marijntaal1531 Před rokem +1

    Count William II of Holland was never Holy Roman emperor, he was only King of the Romans and was on the point of travelling to Rome to be crowned as Holy Roman emperor by the pope but decided to punish the West-Frisians for their latest insubordination and died by falling in the ice at Hoogwoud.
    Also the arms of count William IV of Holland, Zeeland and Hainaut wouldn't have been just the lion of Holland but the lion of Holland quartered with the lion of Hainaut, like you gave his uncle Jean of Beaumont.

  • @Muslim-og3vc
    @Muslim-og3vc Před rokem +5

    Have you done a vid on when the dutch ate their prime minister?

    • @theicepickthatkilledtrotsk658
      @theicepickthatkilledtrotsk658 Před rokem +3

      Dutch history is a wild ride.

    • @historywithhilbert146
      @historywithhilbert146  Před rokem +6

      What do you want me to tell you? They ate him with mayo?

    • @Muslim-og3vc
      @Muslim-og3vc Před rokem +3

      @@historywithhilbert146 did they enjoy the meal?

    • @Jack-Hands
      @Jack-Hands Před rokem

      There are museums in the Netherlands that claim they still have parts of de Witt brothers (the prime minister and his admiral brother) on display.
      I've seen his salted tongue in a museum in The Hague.

    • @charlyvanbuuren2947
      @charlyvanbuuren2947 Před rokem

      Rampjaar 1672 de gebroeders de Wit were killed and some parts eaten by members of the crowd...

  • @HS-su3cf
    @HS-su3cf Před rokem +3

    The Frisians should sail over the Zuiderzee and liberate their West Frisian brothers from the Hollander jackclog.

    • @historywithhilbert146
      @historywithhilbert146  Před rokem +1

      I'm sure you'd find quite a few volunteers for that currently!

    • @gerriekipkerrie6736
      @gerriekipkerrie6736 Před rokem +1

      @@historywithhilbert146 its gonna be mee (some pop singer)

    • @pigboiii
      @pigboiii Před rokem

      I'm not really sure that would be welcomed very well. I'm from that region and its not like we have great love for the Frisians :P.
      One thing my dad always says:
      " 't kan friezen en 't kan dooien, maar de enige goeie fries is en dooie fries"
      Not saying thats the general sentiment here but at least I never felt people had a great love for our fellow country man up north either.

    • @gerriekipkerrie6736
      @gerriekipkerrie6736 Před rokem

      @@pigboiii i have quite a few friends there, I think its mostly jokes

  • @Twentenaer
    @Twentenaer Před rokem

    Damn those Hollanders.

  • @ogedeh
    @ogedeh Před rokem +1

    Wonder who won?

  • @jeddaniels2283
    @jeddaniels2283 Před rokem +1

    €750 billion worth of gas reserves have been extracted from Frisian land. So you can understand why certain narrative exsist about these folk. Independence Reparation. 12000 homes deemed unsafe. Hilbert should do a video on the subject.

  • @gerriekipkerrie6736
    @gerriekipkerrie6736 Před rokem

    Anyone else here who lives in fryslan but has a french last name?

  • @samwill7259
    @samwill7259 Před rokem +2

    As an ignorant American, I'm always interested in...I want to call it "seemingly comfortable minorities" minority populations in free and democratic nations that don't seem to have that much of a massive national streak in them
    So, I suppose to the question, people who know better than me. What is Frisian nationalism like? how big of a force is it in Dutch politics and how seriously is it taken?

    • @kimashitawa8113
      @kimashitawa8113 Před rokem +2

      It isn't that bad, it's more of a preservation of culture than really wanting to seperate themselves from the Netherlands, because almost every real Frisian nowadays is retirement home age. Tbh i think the Netherlands as a whole should be having the same mindset right now, because it's hard to find a Dutch person that doesn't add some English words in every sentence these days, especially in the bigger cities. It's like we're beginning to speak some weird Dutch-English creole. The average Dutch person has 0 interest in the lands' history except for maybe about the V.O.C. which isn't everything y'know.

    • @FOLIPE
      @FOLIPE Před rokem +1

      The nations of the old world are mostly not that homogenous, they were filled with those sort of "minorities" which weren't all that different from the majority population and were more or less quickly absorbed into it once modern things like urbanization, schooling, the military, book printing started at national scale. I can hardly think of any of the old world nations where that's not the case.

    • @samwill7259
      @samwill7259 Před rokem

      @@FOLIPE Uh...Spain? Seems like Spain hasn't got a whole lot of "subsuming" going on these days.

    • @FOLIPE
      @FOLIPE Před rokem

      @@samwill7259 There has been a movement of "rescuing" those lost or moribund old national minorities, but that's a modern thing. Spain did a lot of subsuming back in the days and in many ways still structurally does it

  • @johnmvanstaveren6134
    @johnmvanstaveren6134 Před 6 měsíci

    Starum the Friesian name for Staveren.

  • @gratefulguy4130
    @gratefulguy4130 Před rokem

    Not surprising. We all know Frisia is the most powerful being in the universe.

  • @pigboiii
    @pigboiii Před rokem

    Eeeh west-friesland lets gooo!

  • @sjoerdvangeuns5773
    @sjoerdvangeuns5773 Před 26 dny +1

    Not a problem... the Fr have Holland ferslein

  • @Boric78
    @Boric78 Před rokem

    0.30 Needs some youth to come to the celebrations. That event seems to have the same average age as the supporters inside the grounds of any English Premier League team. Maybe the youth have a different party or something?

  • @thomasdonovan3580
    @thomasdonovan3580 Před 2 měsíci

    Et Smackle

  • @thomastakesatollforthedark2231

    Ach ja. Misschien kunnen we de Friesen wel wat komplimenten geven.... Heeeel misschien

  • @daviddevlogger
    @daviddevlogger Před rokem

    Live your life the way that you want to live it, don’t let other people live it for you…

  • @nonameking4874
    @nonameking4874 Před rokem

    Please cover the recent events in Ukraine... (i.e. Vladimir Putin) I wish you covered Mobilization

  • @madshagen5849
    @madshagen5849 Před rokem +2

    That´s all very good. But when do you Dutch subjugate them darned Belgians? I accept NO excuses!

  • @dpt6849
    @dpt6849 Před rokem

    5:33 William went on a crusade against the Prussians. Nowadays William is a Prussian
    The Frysians took care of Willam the problemman😂

  • @Grantly
    @Grantly Před rokem

    Goku ffed him up. That's all I remember.

  • @dirkbindemann1852
    @dirkbindemann1852 Před rokem

    Goed om te hoor dat die kaalvoet Vriese die Hollanders goed op gedonner het.😂

  • @benadryl988
    @benadryl988 Před rokem

    The Jumpy Boys won

  • @amaccama3267
    @amaccama3267 Před rokem +1

    Hehe kiwi joke 😜

  • @FOLIPE
    @FOLIPE Před rokem +1

    Wait... It took them six centuries to start celebrating the battle?!? Seems a little artificial, doesn't it? What connection can people really have to a battle that's six hundred years old by the time it starts being celebrated that's not almost a completely modern re-reading of the battle to manufacture or strengthen modern narratives?

    • @marijntaal1531
      @marijntaal1531 Před rokem +1

      Exactly my thought, it's a way for modern Frisians to feel proud of their Frisian identity by bashing Holland that they defeated them one time more than six hundred years ago.

    • @jornthefreeze
      @jornthefreeze Před rokem +1

      Frisians as a culture and langue did survive for those 600 years despite being suppressed and even being forbidden (the langue that is) for a long time. After wwII it makes sense to me to re kindle Frisian patriotism. Especially when you think that in those days the Frisian language was considered " lesser" then the dutch language.

    • @sebe2255
      @sebe2255 Před rokem +1

      @@jornthefreeze And yet Frisian is an official language in the Netherlands, unlike other regional languages, even one with more speakers

    • @FOLIPE
      @FOLIPE Před rokem

      @@jornthefreeze I understand why they did it, but it does seem pretty manufactured doesn't it? The conection and meaning of the battle is probably basically totally created in the post-WW2 landscape and not directly inherited from that time.

  • @1628KirsyBoogy
    @1628KirsyBoogy Před rokem +1

    Het Friese leger is een `losse term`... we zouden ze nu blokkeer Friesen noemen 😂

  • @darkjudge8786
    @darkjudge8786 Před rokem

    Yawn. Swamp dwelling sea pirates win a single battle.