The Complete Legend of Vitiate - The Sith Emperor of the Old Republic
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- Learn the complete story of Vitiate, also known as Tenebrae, also known as Valkorion, also known as the Sith Emperor from Star Wars Legends.
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![The ONLY Sith More Powerful Than Sidious - Valkorion [The Immortal Emperor]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/TPOhGApDz7w/mqdefault.jpg)
Sidious: I am the most powerful Sith of all time!
Vitiate: Hold my immortality
Proceeds to torture with force lightning
@Zion Saktu duh old man electrician fighting imortal sith lord of course vitiate would win
@@serenamathews8191 Vitiate can disintegrate Sidious with a mere though
@@serenamathews8191 well sidous can destroy a solar system with that electricity
Sidious is vitiate, maybe ;)
Kills his own parents, years later gets killed by his own family. Ironic
How can you be typing with no physical fingers?
@@quintinjansevanvuuren9638 the dark side is a path to many abilities some consider unnatural.
Darth Nihilus
That was just golden 😂😂😂
Ironic
lol niceee ikrrrr badasssss tbh
Plaguies to Sidious:
"Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Vitiate the wise?"
Darth Vitiate: “No, he hasn’t. Because if I let my rivals hear of me, I wouldn’t be very ‘wise’ in the first place, would I?”
i dont want to like this comment and ruin the current beauty ;)
I haven't seen the rise of Skywalker yet , but perhaps that's how palpatine came back.
@BussiJunaHenkilö and he wanted Rey to kill him like Vitiate to transfer his mind to his family member
No he told him about Darth Tenebrous
There is no death;
There is only the force
And i am it's master
CZcams roleplayers are cringe.
Cool story bro.
this whole channel is cringe what you doin here
Emperor Valkorion
There are other Sith Lord's that would agree to disagree with you
Emperor Valkorion Now *I* am the master, "Valkorion"!
This guy makes Palpatine looks like Mr. Rogers.
It's a beautiful day on Coruscant
This is why I like TROS. ☝🏼
My boy Sheev deserves to be the best.
BrickBuilder Infinity it’s a beautiful day for a Sith Lord
Won’t you be my, won’t you be my
Won’t you be my Sith Lord?
@@Krone0k perfection
@@jonmkl Hmm Valkorion lived for well over a millennium Killed all life on several worlds himself started 2 empires... main objective not killing the Jedi... but all life in the Galaxy...having a truly insane daughter strong in the force.....Pap's lived over a century killed off most Jedi conquered the galaxy for 2 decades ruled it Turned the Chosen One to the dark side to be come his apprentice...was killed (supposedly) by apprentice.... Has a grand daughter also powerful in the force (his son no clue what he was) Found still alive in unknown region with his own cult (no clue how yet) his grand daughter turning his own power against him (not like that has happen more then once) dies not living long enough to see his revenge killing off the Chosen One's family and then his grand daughter taking up the Chosen One's family name... to become Chosen One number 2...yea he was the best of the Sith....lol
Oh yeah, sweet Old Republic lore.
It shall be missed
Except for the Revan plot line I don't like that they ruined his entire life.
Nah more of gore
It's like spice
Except the sith emperor is the only stupid part of TOR
*Injects syringe full of Old Republic era lore into arm.*
"That's the stuff"
Gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme
Its better than spice
Tyrone Biggums shakes
"This is no longer canon."
Me: I'll be the judge of that....
Bitchy Star War Fans always judges things to themselves and proclaim it on the internet. XD
Oliver Xu I don’t see why you can’t claim something as canon to yourself if it doesn’t affect current canon much. They can perfectly fit together.
@@sy2590 I feel like they used inspiration from This storyline to make Palpatine return.
AnthonydoesYT no, the stole from the Dark Empire Story where Luke beats the clone of Palpatine.
What I do is consider it canon until stated otherwise.
"To cheat death is a power only one has achieved, but if we work together, I know we can discover the secret." - Palpatine.
All this time i thought he was referring to Darth Plagueis, but he was actually referring to Emperor Vitiate.
I love when Lord Scourge first met Vitiate face to face. Vitiate is so intimidating
@Jacob Heaton The Revan book you mean? Yeah Scourge felt the power radiating from Vitiate.
@@RoboEpic Especially when you read Vitiate’s Dialogue in Doug Bradleys voice
So I guess you could say, "unlimited power!"
DeltaWolf1000 shut up
Vitiate's response to that would be "unlimited ME".
You presume there's limit to my power. There are none.
One cool bit of info from the Revan books is that when Vitiate speaks it sounds not just like one voice but countless voices, assumably the voices of all the people he absorbed during his ritual. Also, he is telepathic and can literally impose his will onto others.
Remember kids, always bring Carth with you when you are going to fight a sith lord
Shut up Scorch!
I thought Kaidan died on Virmire?
I'd bring Trask Ulgo with me any day over Mr.I have trusting issues
Canderous FTW
So you can learn something about the place you're fighting this Sith Lord?
Just hearing the word "Valkorion" gives me PTSD.
I can already hear him whispering in my ear to use his power. Someone help.
Wait he wasn't killed by his family they only helped the killer who was the outlander
Obi-Wan Kenobi yea
Obi-Wan Kenobi you are a bold one
Obi-Wan Kenobi I corrupt your apprentice while you sleep nerd
He was killed by Arkan If the Outlander didn't strike for some (light) reason. Fragments of real history are lost within myths and "legends". Scholars can't agree on what really "happened".
That's what is so awesome about "The Old Republic" Era. From a certain point of view, it totally fits the word "legends", as scholars and archeologist have yet to unearth the past.
It also makes it sound like it was centuries between the time he was relieved as Valkorion and he attacked the galaxy. But he was Vitiate and Valkorion at the sametime just jumping between bodys. I know it's confusing but that what happens when you redcon a character, and shoe horn them into a story.
That guy was one AWESOME villain. Old republic game stories crush the sequel trilogy any time!
An absolute bad ass. This is why Legends will always overtake canon.
Especially Disney Garbage!
Lol sorry but canon has done things way better than legends but of course if you are biased you won't beliene it
Gamer King It’s not bias, it’s simply ones own opinion and preferred lore.
Adeptus Astartes love the profile pic
@Adeptus Astartes Indeed brother. FOR THAT IS THE EMPERORS WILL!
I want to just fix that one thing about Eternal Empire, he did start forming vision for Eternal Empire before Mandalorian wars not after he regained his full powers after Revan resurrected him.
Also you forgot to mention him consuming all life from Ziost
Now that you are on this topic about old republic I would myself like to see more about old republic lore
In addition he actually took funds and resources from the Sith Empire and used it to bolster his new Eternal Empire. A lot of the time where he is "silent" in the history of the Sith Empire is actually just him putting his attention elsewhere.
Was just going to comment this :) have Starwarsexplained played SWTOR or just read the Wookiepedia article? :D
Ok now it makes a bit more sense
100th like
Might as well just read the wookiepedia articles. All these star wars lore channels do is summerize already short articles anyway lol. Hell some channels turn one page into like 20 5-10 minute videos xD. Bottom line is there isn't much for them to go off of, so they milk articles for views. I suggest getting into warhammer 40k if your into crazy sci-fi lore. Once you get out of the in depth lore videos you can delve into the treasure trove of horus heresy books and catch plenty of things both the content creators and wikia authors miss and they all have audiobook versions
Vitiate does still exist in Star Wars canon. It's only Disney who believes their stories are worthy of being called canon.
But not us.
@Harry Fryer Disney completely rewrote how the Force worked in the sequels, renamed most every Lightsaber crystal a 'kyber', and Malachor was nothing like Kotor. Disney changed a lot of the foundations the Old Republic was built on.
@Harry Fryer here's how i think of it
the originals are the only truly definitive stories
the prequels more or less a poor retelling of the true events
the sequels aren't the definitive events after rotj, only one possible universe
the expanded universe are another story
old republic lore isn't truly confirmed but it is rumored as real
@@sportsgamer8524 Old Republic technically is canon since Di$sney allows EA to maintain and _create new_ content for SWTOR. SO while not official, it's _implied_ canon until claimed otherwise, as is Reven since he was in TCW. It's probably not automatically canon because Di$ney/Lucasfilms wants to change a lot and it's far too massive to do it simply, especially after Kathleen Kennedy realized pumping out half-baked stories a few times a year probably wasn't the best idea, then she claimed they were "looking into" TOR as you've stated. I'll forgive her treason if she can deliver us TOR in all of its former glory, with minimal politicizing/feminizing, but me doubts.
Psilocybe Cubensis I personally think it’s best for Kennedy to just leave the whole Star Wars scene. Things have ... rocky... under her, to say the very least.
Well yes he does,tor is still canon, because revan was in the sith temple on exegol(statue) and the canonised bane by having his ghost speak to yoda in tcw,sith connect over time,4000 years ago can be changed,but if you show sith from that time (revan and bane) you accidentally canonise the entire lore through sith connection,vitiate is canon,arcann is canon,the eternal empire is canon, nihilus is canon,malgus,marka,all of them, it's canonised through Disney telling us it's not,and then stupidly putting a statue of revan in the sith temple
He's definitely one of the greatest sith to have ever lived in Star Wars Legends. He ruled the sith empire longer than everyone else unless I am mistaken. And just like Palpatine, he preferred to use his power over the force rather than a lightsaber.
*Vitiate tries to return in Echoes of Oblivion*
Everyone: How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man?
You made three omissions and one mistake.
The first omission is that he was named a Sith Lord when he was only 15 years old.
The second omission is that he consumed Ziost as well.
The third omission is that he wasn't killed just by his family but also by the Outlander.
And the mistake is that Vitiate began to create the Eternal Empire even when he was the Sith emperor. After Vitiate's resurrection and Revan's final death Vitiate simply went to rule the Eternal Empire and there was no centuries long gap.
Kubinda12345 Tenebrae became a Sith Lord at age 13. You also forgot to mention that the Outlander and Valkorion's family had to use a holocron designed to destroy him.
the next valkorion died not vitiate. valkorion and vitiate at some point the same person but you cant kill what you not see. and its stated that vitiate spirit /mind has survived.
@@Super-Godzilla99 No, when Valkorion's body was killed at the start of the war against the Eternal Empire, Valkorion's spirit (AKA *_VITIATE!)_* entered the Outlander's body. At the end of the war, the Outlander with the help of Arcann, Senya and Vaylin, destroyed Vitiate/Valkorion's spirit, truly putting an end to his reign.
@@HunhowsShadowStalker no his spirit doesn't died.
And his real body died hundreds of years ago. He had no body anymore.
His spirit can't be killed because a soul you can't kill too.
His spirit would die over time if he doesn't find a body and it looks like he never found a body thats why his spirit dies. Play the game and you will see he doesn't die at the end.
@@Super-Godzilla99 Two things can happen at the end of the Knights of The Eternal Throne story. Either Valkorion/Vitiate's spirit gets destroyed OR it gets trapped in a holocron.
By the way "doesn't died" is incorrect. It's "didn't die" or "hasn't died".
Can you do complete story of revan?
Owen-Wan Kenobi he has done one already i think
He didn't spend "several centuries" on Zakuul after the whole revan reawakened incident.
He found that place long before that happened.
Sometime between the Ritual on Nathema and the Great Galactic War that takes place right before SWTOR starts is when he found it.
So, Zakuul and the "Eternal Empire" was more or less a backup plan of his.
He spent just a few years there after the incident with revan on Yavin IV before he launched an attack on his old empire and the republic.
Yeah I noticed that mistake in the video too.
Man I really hope Rian Johnson's trilogy covers the old republic and includes Vitiate, Revan, Malak and all that. That'd be so freaking cool, tis but a dream.
It won’t. He already confirmed that. His trilogy is going to be something completely new that we’ve never seen before. We’ve already seen The Old Republic, so it wouldn’t be new.
No, I hope the creators of game of thrones. Then maybe we can get osme actual big stage battles of sith and jedi!
fair. the games and books have told that story pretty well already. A movie would never do it justice, probably a good thing.
I’m hoping for something new. I doubt he wants to use established characters ever again.
Weiss and benioff r apparantly going to do the old republic
Actually in SWTOR there is a slight possibility he is not entirely dead now. At the end of the Onslaught expansion Lord Scourge said he was determined to destroy Vitiate's real corpse but in doing so released a sith plague/ disease that corrupted then combined minds/consciences together from anybody who came into contact with the plague which hinted at Vitiate slowly but surely being born again or regenerated. As of right now it's just a theory because the content stopped at that point but it sounds like Tenebrae isn't done yet ...
Would have been cool if the Big Bad of the Sequels had been something similar to Vitiate/Valkorion. I did some brainstorming recently and came up with the Idea of making Darth Plagueis the final villain: His spirit survived the death of his body at the hands of Sidious, it spent the last 60-odd years jumping from Body to Body, in search of a perfect, powerful host, becoming far worse and far more evil over time, something that is beyond Jedi and Sith, an entity whose ultimate goal is to strip the entire galaxy of all life, absorb the life force into itself and then sit on the Throne for all eternity, reigning over an empty galaxy. A threat so all-encompassing that everyone has to band together to defeat it, Republic and Empire, Jedi and Dark Jedi, leading to a true reunififaction at the end of the last movie.
I follow a GoT channel and when you said “Daenerys Targaryen,” I was like: “Did I pick the right video?” 😂
Me too 🤣
Old republic cinematics were better than the Disney trilogy. Not even arguable.
Palpatine: I am the most powerful Sith of the galaxy!
Plaugeis: No, i am.
Vitiate: Oh how cute...
legends palpatine: sit down, child.
Got one detail wrong: he played with the Eternal Empire and the Sith Empire coincidingly. Upon seeing Valokirion, Marr said "This was your distraction?! All those years of your absence throughout our history?". The attacks of the Eternal Empire on Republic and Sith Empire territory happened shortly after Vitiate's apparent demise on Yavin IV, not 300 years afterwards. By that time, the Eternal Empire was already more powerful than the combined forces of the Republic and the Sith Empire and Valkorions children were grown up. Basically, he had to rule those two empires coincidingly in order for all that to play out.
This is so wholesome. Thanks for the video.
I always thought palapatine was referring to vitiate when he said that to cheat death is a power only one has achieved, in revenge of the sith
To be fair, he could have been. At least in the Legends continuity. As for the canon continuity... well, who knows, maybe he's meant to be referring to Plagueis
It is stated in EU books for sure that both Sidious and Plagueis held Vitiate in high regard and study his teachings
A Vitiate game would be fantastic.
This is the most streamlined, but detailed video on this story I have ever found. It's the perfect balance. It was short enough that I didn't get distracted, but I also feel like I know what the heck is going on. Thank you!
Thanks a lot for doing this vid!! I always wanted to know more about him but was so confused but you made this perfectly simple and easy to understand! Thx
Darth Plagues, Darth Vitiate, Darth Malgus, Darth Nihlus, and Tulak Hord might return in Star Wars Episodes 10-12
a Second Clone War, a Second Galactic Civil War, or the New Republic War
Darth Momin's helmet created Darth Vader's Castle on Mustafar
Operation Stardust
Operation War Mantle
Darth Cadeus aka Anakin Solo
Valkorion:A force powerhouse sith sorcerer that came from obscurity and relative humbleness that climbed his way to power through manipulation, starting wars, twisting the powerfullest force users to his will ruling as an emperor for 1300 years and being able to transfer his conciousness to new bodies, re-entering the frame under a new form and name to cheat death.
Sidious:Imma copy this mans whole career
Great video yet again keep up the good work alex
I had a theory that Snoke was one of Vitiate's forms and they were going to bring him into canon. Would have been cool.
TheDarkPorkins well, your theory has just split in two
No that would be retarded I like vitiate but snoke is nothing like him
that would make no sense.
TheDarkPorkins I think Vitiate is way more competent
They might because Disney cares about money and they know star wars legends=$$$$$
Sidious: I am the most evil villian in Star Wars history!
Vitiate: so I took that personally
When Darth Sidious was just a child he read bed time stories about Vitiate to himself before going to bed.
I’ve been looking forward to this
Knowing SWTOR, I'm still 50/50 on Vitiate coming back
Hes dead, like deader than dead
I hope they bring him back, he was too awesome to die.
I was kind of thinking an idea like this could be the antagonist of episodes 13-15 (Thrawn out of hiding should be 10-12). A new dark side user reading up on the legends of old who concocts a plan to kill every living thing in the galaxy and become a god.
Finally some lore on this guy :D thanks alot! my favorite sith (canon or not)
Finally! I’ve wanted to see a big explanation for this guy for a while
Any chance you’ll do other characters from SWTOR like Lana Beniko or Theron Shan or other player companions? If not more legends characters please and great video!!
Can you do one of these for Darth Nox or any other dark council member?
i loved this video. great visuals. i wish i had people to share it with lol
So what's the next lore play series? Btw congrats on 450k subs dude I feel like not that long ago was 200k
Who else fanboyed when he talked about Revan
It's a shame the Revan he talked about during the whole "quest to become a god" thing was pretty disappointing if you've played the Shadow of Revan expansion of Star Wars: The Old Republic.
KOTOR are amazing games.. 😊
TOR basically ruined Revan's legacy. My ideal Star Wars curates a lot of thing, and TOR and the sequels are some of the things left out of my head canon, though the trailers for TOR are incredible and if they were to have left Revan alone, the story would be a lot more appealing to me.
I'd love to see his character or a character similar to his become cannon. You need an "invincible" villain every once in a while to make things fun.
LOVE THIS VIDEO
"BASIC"! that was amazing!!!
The ending of this video is such a bummer after seeing “The Rise of Skywalker”
Why? Snoke was Palpatine the whole time, and Palpatine was possessed by the souls of every Sith since Darth Bane, and spent the last thirty years as an undead Sith Lich destroying the Skywalker family and the New republic from behind the scenes.
So his theory was actually right.. _from a certain point of view_
Veiteate is a god compared to sidius who will be like a mere child
Nope. Sidious utterly destroys Vitiate.
Sidious can consume all of space, alter time, and rip reality itself through the use of Force Storms, burn entire planets with his Force lightning, mind dominate twenty billions, while also draining the a Force out of them, did galactic size battle mediation for straight 23 years and he did it for 24/7 without having a rest during his reign as the Emperor of the Galactic Empire up until to his death above Endor, had became so powerful that he exists as a being of pure dark side energy , had created Force Protection so durable that it can survive attacks that literally consume and destroys everything it touches, as to not let Luke and R2-D2 being destroyed by the all-destructive effects of the Force Storm, and it took every single goddamn Jedi from the time of their creation up until to 11 A.B.Y. to basically seal his spirit into Chaos (the Star Wars Equivalent of hell) for an eternity and still not killing him, whereas weak ass Vitiate's spirit got killed by his family and the outlander.
Whereas.
I didn't see Vitiate because so powerful on the Force, that he can hide his mind and presence, even from powerful Jedi and Sith
I didn't see Vitiate had the capability to shroud the entirety of the Force in darkness, including the dark side.
I didn't see Vitiate weaken the force connection of tens of thousands of Jedi.
I didn't see Vitiate going a significant percent of light speed.
I didn't see Vitiate killing three powerful Jedi that are on the council with a light saber, and did it wrong the point that Mace Windu can't even seem to react to that.
I didn't see Vitiate did Galactic size battle mediation for straight 23 years and did it for about 24/7.
I didn't see Vitiate had became so powerful that he now exists as a being of pure dark side energy.
I didn't see Vitiate presence in the Force and turn into a dark side nexus so powerful, that he can literally ripping the fabric of the universe.
I didn't see Vitiate sucking the Force out of twenty billion, and gain more strength in the Force, without actually killing them.
I didn't see Vitiate transcended death and survived the power of billions of Jedi or possibly higher than that.
I didn't see Vitiate creating Force Storms that can consume all of space, alter time and entire dimensions, ripping reality itself, and ripping the fabric of the universe, and can perfectly control it.
I didn't see Vitiate had created Force protection or bubbles that can survive attacks that can literally destroy everything, it touches.
I didn't see Vitiate had the potential to turn the entire galaxy or the universe into the most powerful dark side nexus, and made himself the omnipotent ruler of the universe.
There are more, but I would not list all of it.
And Darth Sidious did all of it.
This is all the evidence of what all, I said in this comment:
comicvine.gamespot.com/star-wars-universe/4015-57038/forums/darth-sidioussheev-palpatine-super-respect-thread-1877280/
Somerandom Guy, that you think Sidious ''utterly'' destroys Vitiate is outright laughable.
''Sidious can consume all of space, alter time, and rip reality itself through the use of Force Storms, burn entire planets with his Force lightning''
And yet those very force storms are not combat applicable, because Sidious would kill himself with them, Sidious didn't even have full control over his force storms.
''mind dominate twenty billions, while also draining the a Force out of them''
BYSS WAS A STRONG NEXUS POINT BEFORE PALPATINE EVER SHOWED UP. The Rakata empire built it as a base of operations and built temples and other structures there. When Sidious eventually shows up he opts to allow such structures to remain while he orders the building of others. That's important to note because Rakata ships operated through Force empowered Hyperdrive systems, and they targeted worlds Rich in Force Energy to travel to and from.
Relevant sources:
Byss Nexus 1:
i.imgur.com/1527LpW.png
Byss Nexus 2:
i.imgur.com/XO6bZFL.png
Byss Nexus 3:
i.imgur.com/S2EFyZs.png
Byss Nexus 4:
i.imgur.com/KA7fcAp.png
Byss Nexus 5:
i.imgur.com/mV2qiYE.png
Byss Nesus 6 (Luke calls it the dark center of the universe:
i.imgur.com/dfchtxP.png
Rakata Nexus Planet Targeting:
i.imgur.com/ZS0nMs5.png
Rakata Owned Byss:
i.imgur.com/O6lzfu0.png
Special Extras, First Two Pages of Star Wars Evasive Action Recruitment. These two pages show that even during the *construction phase* of the planet when the site hadn't even been fully set up and optimized, it was greatly empowering Vader and Sids because of its Nexus state. It also shows that Vader who was not draining the workers on the planet, was able to easily and without effort draw upon the power the workers and nexus produced:
Pg 1.) i.imgur.com/uY5vmbD.jpg
Pg 2.) i.imgur.com/oXO1vaY.jpg
Pg 3.) i.imgur.com/kaNdReO.jpg
So it's true it takes little effort on Palpatine's part because the feat is empowered by the Nexus that is the planet itself. It's like saying you can push a tank down the road and it takes no effort, but oh, the tank is already turned on and in drive. Lol.
It should also be noted that Sidious had assistance in this feat, as his Dark Side acolytes were helping him.
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I'll address the populations of Ziost, Byss, and Nathema here.
While we don't know the exact population of Ziost, we do know for a fact that the planet was one of the Sith Empire's largest population centers.
Situated in the heart of Imperial Space, Ziost has long played a vital role in the intricate history of the Sith. For thousands of years, in fact, the craggy, arid world served as the ancient Sith Empire's capital until infighting splintered its leadership. Today, Ziost remains an important commercial, political and population center of the Empire--this in spite of its shift from a warm climate with dense forests to a bitterly cold tundra. Whether this environmental turnabout is due to geological reasons or eons of dark side influence remains a subject of scholarly consideration.
From (Star Wars: The Old Republic: Rise of the Emperor: Codex Entry titled "Ziost.")
So, Ziost's population was immense. And on top of the normal population, there was a good sized number of other Jedi and Sith on the planet at the time as well.
Just as well, let's assume that Byss did have a larger population than Medriaas and Ziost. The difference is minimal, honestly, in the grand scheme of things. Sidious drained Byss SLOWLY, over long period of time. While also controlling the population of the planet with telepathy, you might think that makes it more impressive, but it really doesn't. He was draining them, which is true, but he would have been EXPENDING as much power to control the population as he was absorbing from them, on top of that, Byss was an incredibly potent Dark Side nexus. Meaning that Sidious had the aid of an external amp as well while performing this feat.
Vitiate, on the other hand, drained the population nigh instantly, and disrupted the flow of the Force to the plane, just as he did on Medriaas. Every scrap of Force energy, on the planet, in the people on the planet, and surrounding the planet, all manipulated into one target, Vitiate.
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Side note, another point I came up with. Vitiate negatively affected the workings of the Living Force and the Cosmic Force on both Medriaas and Ziost.
The Force consists of two related, but distinct, elements: the Living Force and the Cosmic Force. The Living Force is generated by the energy of living beings throughout the galaxy. This is the Force at its most immediate and instinctive level. It is this aspect of the Force that allows for many of the impressive abilities that have fueled the aura of legend around the Jedi and Sith, and that still excites the galaxy's imagination. The ability to trick the minds of other beings, to sense their presence, and to manipulate physical objects all come from the Living Force.
From (Star Wars: Force and Destiny - Core Rulebook)
^^^ This is relevant because Vitiate wiping out all life on the planets would have left a negative effect on the planet's connection to the Living Force.
Now for the good part.
He felt the first hints of what was waiting for him when the shuttle dropped out of hyperspace. Through the windows of the cockpit he saw a gray-and-brown planet looming large before them. Gazing at it, he felt something strange and unsettling. Something unnatural.
It took him several moments to realize what was wrong, and even when he did, he didn’t fully grasp the implications. He wasn’t feeling the Force.
The sensation was completely alien. The Force was omnipresent. It radiated stronger in certain places and at certain times, and the balance of the dark side and the light constantly shifted. But it was always there in some way, shape, or form.
Now, however, he felt nothing. He had become so accustomed to the presence of the Force in the background that its complete absence was almost overwhelming, leaving him unable to speak.
“Prepare yourself,” Nyriss said. “We’re going down to the surface.”
The absence grew steadily more pronounced as the shuttle approached and then landed on Nathema.
From (Star Wars: The Old Republic: Revan)
The Force, not only on the planet, but AROUND the planet, was missing. Meaning Vitiate permanently damaged the Cosmic Force, leaving a hole. All of this power would have needed to go somewhere. So not only did Vitiate retain the power of the DS Nexus on Medriaas, and the power of the Sith and other denizens of the world, but also retained the power of the Force that surrounded the planet as well. This carries over to Ziost as well, as the results on Ziost are the same as the results of the Medriaas ritual. So, Vitiate has all that combined power at his disposal as Valkorion.
''I didn't see Vitiate going a significant percent of light speed.''
Lack of speed feats =/= lack of speed. Scaling from people like Revan, who in turn has scaling from people like Marr that actually have explicit speed feats, GIVE themselves over to Vitiate. The nature of augmentation is universal. Vitiate having comparable power to Sidious in the Force allows for the educated assumption that Vitiate is likewise capable of extreme speed feats.
''I didn't see Vitiate killing three powerful Jedi that are on the council with a light saber, and did it wrong the point that Mace Windu can't even seem to react to that.''
Three powerful Jedi? Lol. Jedi who are below Dooku level. Vitiate oneshotted an entire Dark Council TWICE while Pre-Prime, dominated two ANH Vader level opponents (Revan and Malak) casually Pre-Prime, and oneshotted the strike team that came after him, again, Pre-Prime.
''I didn't see Vitiate sucking the Force out of twenty billion, and gain more strength in the Force, without actually killing them''
Draining the planet was doing very little to actually aid his power in any way. As Sidious himself states that all the draining does is slow the decay of his own body.
''I didn't see Vitiate had became so powerful that he now exists as a being of pure dark side energy.''
Shows how little you know of Vitiate, Vitiate became a Dark Side nexus post Nathema ritual, the ''Revan'' novel confirms that he is a Dark Side nexus when the Imperial Guard drew power from ''the emperor'' himself.
''I didn't see Vitiate creating Force Storms that can consume all of space, alter time and entire dimensions, ripping reality itself, and ripping the fabric of the universe, and can perfectly control it.''
But, Sidious couldn't actually ''perfectly control it''. And i would argue that Vitiate DID use those Force Storms, but not to the degree that Sidious did.
Concluding, you're lowballing Vitiate heavily, and you wank Sidious, heavily. So i'd suggest you make a good research on Vitiate, before commenting nonsense.
Darth Vitiate he killed a Jedi strike force that consist most of The Jedi high council of the time in one zap of his force lightning and and the same for Darth Marr ,nearly turned the hero of tython to the dark side and I don’t recall sidius gather thousands of Sith Lords in one planet for a ritual which gave him immortality, viteate cheat death for centuries and secretly built a second empire during his 300 years absence from the sith empire, viteate trapped his farther in a holocron for centuries
Sidius only cheated death one or twice in the dark empire comic series and his force storm was impressive but it had a major flaw when consentration was disrupted the storm destroyed him before he can regain control
One thing you guys all seem to be forgetting is that Vitiate COMPLETELY mastered both sides of the force as valkorion and the result of this was him creating a massive army of knights who knew the force not as light or dark but both. Why do you think revan was so damned strong he had learned that each side has a limit to how strong you can get and only by combining both will you be able to transcend these limits. Palpatine is said to only have mastered lightning (sure to a super impressive level) and other small time flashy abilities no sorcery no sith alchemy so in truth Palpatine was not a true master of the dark side. All the had was a sharp tongue and a super potent connection to the Force.
That thumbnail is a work of art!
Nice Video :)
3:29 Bit of a lore error there. In actuality during his reign of the Sith Empire, after centuries of rebuilding it, and even past the time Revan tried to assassinate him. Vitiate could no longer tolerate the constant sith infighting that plagued the Empire, which made it weak, and in his own eyes "an utter failure".
So he then decided to create a new empire, acquiring the body of a Zakuulan warrior who we now know as Valkorian, and proceeded to unify Zakuul, and then build that up in his own vision. This empire (known as "The Eternal Empire of Zakuul") was different from that of the Sith Empire, and the Republic completely. Force sensitives served as both advisers to the throne, and as a policing body, but they did not focus on either the light or dark side of the force, instead they used the force more as a tool or an extra limb, not as some mystical unknown body or as a means to serve their own personal goal.
And he did this all the while also acting as the Sith Emperor, planning his rituals to make him even more powerful, and trying to destroy the Republic.
I thought Vitiate would find the infighting to be entertaining. After all, he thrived on conflict, no?
@@theevildrummingsithlord1492 When said conflict is occurring between the highest levels of authority within your Empire, and you already have an enemy who easily unites against a common threat, it becomes more of a problem than something you thrive off of.
@@54lolman Oh...that's how. Ok, that makes sense. Thanks for explaining.
Manthan Shah you’re welcome.
Btw it was the Hero of Tython who beat him the first time. He/she had gained an immunity to his will and was aided by T7-O1 who as a droid could not be influenced. The second time anyone of the 8 can do it but if I personally had to pick I would say the Jedi Knight whom beat him once already or the Sith Warrior who had the most personal connection to him (again my own personal opinion. Any of the 8 classes can beat him).
Thank you. I was hoping someone would mention the Hero of Tython. My personal favorite of the 8 classes. Not to mention I think he is the most likely of the 8 who became the outlander as BioWare has made him Vitiate’s nemesis.
nice vid!
You should do a video like this about thrawn in legends and maybe a biology/society one for the chiss as a whole
Mmmm one of my favs
RIP old republic
Vitiate And Sidious are so similar in personalities, characteristics, goals, reaches, aims, and pillars
Not even close.
Sidious is sane compared to Vitiate.
Best video ever!
I watched this for a recap so much to remember
I'd like a streamlined version for canon because as awesome as it is, his story is very hard to follow.
Ah I see CZcams is getting even worse now they're forcing me to watch two comercials this is getting bad I see CZcams has embraced the dark side
Now this... Now this is worthy of the name emperor
It is believed that he still lives on. Popular idea among SWTOR fans
A complete history of Darth Nihilus
After seeing rise of skywalker I feel like Disney could have made a power play and made palpatine vitiate.
I say thank goodness they didn't. Imagine how horrible it would be to have Vitiate be killed off by some scrub.
He didn't go missing for several centuries before reemerging as Valkorion in the Eternal Empire on Zakuul, he had been doing that simultaneously to the events of the SWTOR games. He claims that his work with the Sith Empire was secondary and a distraction from his actual empire on Zakuul. His death and the parts of his story taking place on Zakuul are all playable and only take place 5 years after whenever Revan revived him.
Good video topic choice.
If Rey wears the mask of Darth Nihlus, when someone deactivates the Carbonite Freezing of Darth Malgus, the Sith Lords from The Old Republic eras return
returned from exile
in Malachor V(5) using a Jedi Holocron in the Sith Temple's main reactor would energize to resurrect all Sith Warriors
Hell no
Operation War Mantle
Hell yes
Vitiate has to be cannon now after The Rise of Skywalker. They just took what Vitiate did and threw that into the movie with what Palpatine was doing.
Implying he's gonna be the same bad ass from TOR
I would love to see them make this a movie. The legends is much better.
I like how he looks like a modern Mark Hamill, it kind of creates this connection to make me like him/ want to know more about him
I would love a game dedicated to the Sith of the old republic but I’ll keep dreaming 🙂
Didn't Darth Vitiate recover Darth Malgus in carbonite as a trophy at one point?
That's a deleted scene from the Sacrifice Trailer, it is therefore, not canon even within the context of SWTOR.
Darth Harbinger That's disappointing. I wished that they kept that scene in.
Really handy video, I've always found the SWTOR story hard to follow
Imagine this. A Star Wars movie with swtor lore, LOTR directing, and GoT twists
God, Star Wars was so much better back when this was Canon
Q&A: Do you think we'll ever get a Lego Star Wars movie? Would you want one? What do you think it would be about?
This was when the Old Republic story jumped the shark for me.
Its incredible to learn in the revan book that revan was powerful enough in the force and in will that once he and Malak had left imperial space he managed to rewrite the brainwashing that the emperor did on him and Malak but he still had no real idea because he instead of starting the jedi Civil War for the emperor he instead did it to prepare the galaxy for the return of Vitiate though he had no real knowledge of what this true threat was because he unknowingly altered their memories and what not
THERE IS NO REY THERE IS REVAN
THERE IS NO KYLO THERE IS VITIATE
THERE IS NO SNOKE THERE IS NIHLUS
THERE IS NO BB8 THERE IS TRAYA AND SION
THERE IS NO CANON THERE IS LEGENDS
For your next Q&A, why do ships use their engines/thrusters/whatever in space when there is no drag? Theoretically, unless you need to change direction or go faster, there’s no reason to.
For example, the _Raddus_ and its accompanying ships could have held their shields for longer if they each gave one blast of speed from their engines, turned them off, and diverted the power they would have spent on them to their shields. Has no-one ever seen this in the countless years that there have been spaceships?
I think I can answer-
1 story reasons
2 SW is science fantasy sci-fi hybrid meaning it has many sci film elements and extensive lore but is also consisting of stuff that's total BS (still am a nerd and fanatic of the franchise i was scientificly speaking)
3*/4*- i have two theories: engines must be on in order to keep shields active so your gonna be better off accelerating when ya need to Run-and thast what they wnated to do since no ammount of shields can stop a fleet of resurgents (each one has almsot double if not triple firepower of ISD ) plus those gian guns of supremacy (ad the fact it had comparable firepower to the entire fleet on its own) and considering that 3 ISDs can obliterate a planet killing off most of civilized population in 1-2 days well...
/there might be some in built mechanism that prevents that manuver as it would mean drifting so in case of engine mulfunction/loss of fuel or power ship won't float with crew doomed inside rather stay near last known location from before signal loss(that would happen due to lack of energy) I guess that from the fact that Holdo's ship kinda suddenly slowed down and tilted like when you would rapidly turn around Ion stream
5 they needed to run from a base and Supremacy was self sufficient so they could not outlast it's supply that would mean they were locked at standardized speed while FO initially slower could accelerate indefinitly
EcpameMCP made valid point about chaning direction that hoever is partially answered in lore- wonder why only most expensive ships have dedicated manuvering engines? eg-chiss clawcraft (super tie interceptor of the chiss ascendency)? their standard engines are based on particle like prupolsion most commonly Ion engines those type of engines in starwars ra able to redirect ion flow so they would turn without turning the engine sructure (the emmited glow doesnt indicate the flow in bigger ships since its radiation, not atcual propelant)
6 Main reactor core might take a while to start up and since its directly connected to engines it might reboot?if not then emergency runing on of the engines would take a long time power up again
7 There is high chance the engine exhaust is actually working as ventilation for the reactor if thats the case then WELCOME HYPERDRIVE MELTDOWN aka turn organics aboard into meaty slime and totaly char the closets ones while at the same time on the front of the ship there will be plp vommiting from radiotion poisoning and computers breaking aslo possible decompressure of entire vessel
8 our own real life Ion stream engines used in experimental vessels can generate enormous ammounts of thrust (speed ) but at very low accelration rate so it would make sense youd need to constantly accelarate since they can afford it due to galaxy of resources that is what they do and that is why the can turn around in space without slowing down to like 2 mph every time (im maing the case to extreme of course but thats how it would feel for guy who drops speed so drasticly
Space isn't a total vacuum. There's about 1 atom per cubic metre. Maybe that's what keeps slowing them down and requires constant engine. Changing direction though... that's done like that purely to look cool :)
DONT TAKE MY WORD FOR IT i have not even finished middle school so feel free to correct me just please be constructive and dont spam hate randomly ;)
I was replying to Joesph (hence the change direction thing, something he mentioned). We all know that space doesn't work like that, and your "story reasons" is bang on the money. We're good, no hate in there at all (too much of that around SW atm!). Sorry if you read it that way. Cool?
The hate stuff wasn't targetting you it was done just of being cautious for future potential hate i actualy like your reply very much so yeah. Cool ;)
Thank you! I’ve always wondered. Could you explain how he was able to dominant minds using the dark side of the force?
It's more about enforcing your will on someone else, he was extremely powerful so only extremely strong-willed individuals would be able to resist it. SPOILERS
During the JK storyline you do get dominated by him but you're freed from his control by the force ghost of your Jedi Master, Revan was also able to break free from his mind control once he went back to the wider-galaxy and during the Ziost crisis you're able to resist his mind-control.
he is the dark side the only person how could break of his mind controll is revan no other can. Ok in game everyone can but with plot armour and so on.
The part regarding Zakuul is confusing. My understanding was he was building his Zakuul Empire, all the while overseeing his Sith Empire, since the timeline of events between everything had not been that long between the battle with Revan and the start of the Zakuul invasions. "He hid from the galaxy and spent several centuries" makes it sound as though this occurred after Revan.
He wanted a powerful armada called the Eternal Fleet, while searching he stumbled on Zakkul. Eventually he considered the Sith a failure and built a new empire on Zakkul. I believe it is after Revan because Vitiate was inspired by Revan to start a family but I may be mistaken
I don't know if you have done this but I would like a history of the clone of Luke Skywalker in legends Luuke
So wait, is the old republic MMO legends? I figured it was canon since it was still live and supported during the time of disney's new movies. Am I wrong?
Flamadiddle it's still running, but is part of Legends continuity
It's the only source of Legends material still creating story.
It’s Legends
They really should continue Legends continuity. There’s still many stories s to be told. What happened to Zayne Carrick? Where was he Jarael, Gryph and the others during the events of the first KOTOR game? How exactly did the Mandalorian Wars go down? Can we have a KOTOR prequel game set in that era as a way to see/play as Revan again? What happened to the Starkiller’s Clone? Was he a clone at all? What happened after Cade Skywalker’s story?
Honestly at this point continuation of those stories interest me much more than the new trilogy and “Canon” at this point.
RCBM Mines The mandalorian wars have already been explained enough. the real crime that happened with the expanded universe purge is the fact that we never found out what happened to Luke, Jaina, Kyle Katarn and the rest of the new jedi order. We literally had a cliffhanger with them heading for Mortis. They even originally planned a trilogy starring jaina, the sword of the jedi before the eu purge thus cancelling all projects
This is the transcendental being by Husserl, it's really cool
Could you make a video about the story in the uprising game?
Damn. This man made TWO FKING EMPIRES.
He made 2
But he practicly lived to see
Falls and rising of Sith Emp numerous times, created by him
1st time: Hypersace War(Sith Emp was destroyed ) adn recreated by him
2nd time: 30 years war and Corruscant fall and Sith Emp government" crash( Darth Malgus claim himself the Sith Lord Emperor)
3rd time: After the desth of Marka and the Sith InnerWar that distroyd the sith, before the Hyperspace war BTW
AND
4rd time Ethernal Empire
And there are others
The man the myth the legend better villain than snoke and kylo times infinity combined vitiate valkorian
I think George may have canonized vitiate when sidious says in ROTS that immortality/cheating death has only been achieved by one person to Anakin. Some people think he’s talking about plagueis, but plagueis technically didn’t figure it out. He did however do a ritual that accidentally created anakin but that’s different. Also I know ROTS was before the old republic stuff, but the character idea may have been a thing.
Honestly I LOVE Vitiate's background story. He was born to be ruthless, ruled his home planet relentlessly and entitled with the name of Sith Lord, at the age of 13. He was so wise and manipulative that he avoided the fight for power and the Hyperspace War and gain full control of the Sith in the reconstructed Sith Empire. His ultimate goal and his scheme fully embodied the idea KOTOR2 conveyed, that by sending echos throughout the galaxy by war could build connections with all creatures and via this echo one could controll all.
But......His power really sounds like a copy of that of Nihilus'. And the idea that the True Sith was about belief not military force or "machines" wasn't shown in TOR......