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  • čas přidán 2. 08. 2024
  • Unlock the Full Potential of Your Gen3 KTM 1290 Super Duke R with These Performance-Enhancing Geometry Hacks.
    🔧 Are you ready to take your riding experience to the next level? Discover three game-changing geometry hacks using Sport Links from Superduked.com. Improve your motorcycle's handling, stability, drive, and overall enjoyment.
    In this video, we dive deep into the fascinating world of KTM Super Duke R geometry, exploring key concepts such as rake, trail, swingarm angle, anti-squat, progression and stability vs instability. Learn how these factors impact your motorcycle's performance and ride feel. We'll also provide visual demonstrations to demystify "rake" and explain how "trail" is measured at the center of the front tire's contact patch.
    But that's not all! The real secret lies in achieving the perfect balance. Find out how optimizing your bike's balance can not only boost its performance but also amplify the sheer joy of your riding experience.
    Don't miss out on these exclusive insights - watch the video now and transform your Gen3 KTM 1290 Super Duke R into a performance powerhouse.
    🔗 Visit Superduked.com to supercharge your ride with Sport Links.
    👍 Please like, share, and subscribe for more valuable motorcycle tips and tricks.
    #KTM #SuperDukeR #MotorcycleGeometry #MotorcycleSuspension
    Timestamps
    0:00 - Intro
    0:26 - RAKE & TRAIL
    6:33 - BALANCE
    13:43 - DRIVE
    20:29 - INSTABILITY
    32:18 - FORK HEIGHT VS SPORT LINK
    34:06 - CLOSING

Komentáře • 64

  • @MacMillanDAN
    @MacMillanDAN Před 10 měsíci +20

    This channel is a hidden gem for KTM owners. You're giving away increadible information and I'm super glad that I've found your channel Gogo. Thank you.

    • @superduked33
      @superduked33  Před 10 měsíci +4

      This is the best thing I've heard all day. Thank you brother

  • @RikkyTang
    @RikkyTang Před 10 měsíci +9

    There must be so many smart, thoughtful and practical people out there like you, who are behind a huge number of great performance enhancing upgrades available for our motorbikes and we never get to hear from them. It's awesome to see one of them talk about the development of their parts in so much detail but also in an relatable way. Brilliant stuff, thanks GoGo!

  • @philipbeens1021
    @philipbeens1021 Před 10 měsíci +2

    School is in session ! Thx man
    Ready to race …no so much outa the crate ,lol

  • @chriseastburn3551
    @chriseastburn3551 Před 4 měsíci

    Just picked up 23 1290 SDR EVO so glad you addressed the headshake issue. I noticed when I increased the rear preload the stability was vastly improved. Still tweeking my set-up. Brings some credence to your rear squat causing the instability. Excellent lecture!

  • @michaelgreen6264
    @michaelgreen6264 Před 10 měsíci +2

    I don't have a Superduke anymore but the general knowledge that you are passing on is amazing. Can be used on any bike to help get the most out of it and as you say get the joy of riding a truly balanced bike

    • @superduked33
      @superduked33  Před 10 měsíci +1

      It really is profound - the difference of enjoyment we experience by doing exactly the same thing on exactly the same bike on exactly the same day. Just one is setup well for us, and the other is setup for nobody in particular. Sincerely day VS night

  • @Dannyboysraceshit
    @Dannyboysraceshit Před 10 měsíci +1

    Great vid Go!

  • @GhostHammerX
    @GhostHammerX Před 5 měsíci +1

    I wish someone had a channel like this but for the MT09…(yeah, I know)

  • @jojomojito5635
    @jojomojito5635 Před 9 měsíci

    Great video I really appreciate the information.

  • @robertswafford4145
    @robertswafford4145 Před 7 měsíci +1

    This is incredible information for free. I never tried to learn suspension voodoo and relied on suspension guys for everything. When Jason said I needed a harder rear spring because of front end push, I just bought one. It worked miraculously. Like you, I like information and NEED to know WHY. You explain this stuff in a great way man. Glued to all these videos. Bad part? Giving me the itch.

  • @ktkace
    @ktkace Před 10 měsíci +1

    The layman's terms and science fair style "show and tell" explanations is why i subbed , liked and shared !!!
    This is CZcams unobtanium!!

  • @Maximumtrack
    @Maximumtrack Před 9 měsíci

    Can't wait for the link to arrive :-) usps showing will arrive today. With the combination of the akro full exhaust and the akro map and your link. Ill sign up with moto GP in no time lol.
    But seriously, thank you for the information. Very helpful. ❤

  • @BRB1290
    @BRB1290 Před 2 měsíci

    This is just insane, you are like a god to me :) keep god work

  • @oddvaruglumlland3242
    @oddvaruglumlland3242 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Thanks for your constant effort in helping the Super Duke community Eric. Your time spent making videos with an clear effort of trying to get the message comunicated to all parties irrelevant of their experience is very generous of you. I do not know you, but your effort clearly seems to come from your heart, and not your want to fill your wallet. I still hope you get some returns for your effort anyways as development is not free, and time is neither so.

    • @superduked33
      @superduked33  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Hahahaha. It's a great point you mention - the wallet. Mine is not yet in the green considering all this but that's not the point, right? I've always wished I could make a difference. Maybe this is how I can achieve that. Thanks for your kind words my friend. Sincerely appreciated

  • @DjScarhead
    @DjScarhead Před 10 měsíci +1

    I wached tis video 10 times , Go Go is the man, the profesor 💪

  • @nicholasglyshaw2955
    @nicholasglyshaw2955 Před 10 měsíci +1

    What a cool video and easy enough to understand for a dunce like myself. Gogo, you continue to impress. Keep it up!

  • @javasoldier5926
    @javasoldier5926 Před 10 měsíci

    dude you are awesome moto teacher! Nice video real deal advices and explanation!

    • @superduked33
      @superduked33  Před 9 měsíci +1

      Thank you brother those are inspiring words to offer. Helps drive me to do more so I appreciate you

  • @JimJuno
    @JimJuno Před 10 měsíci +1

    This is good content. I ride an R3 rocket but the info applies just as well and confirmed my thoughts. Thanks man!

    • @superduked33
      @superduked33  Před 10 měsíci +1

      It's true, this is not exclusive to Superdukes at all. In fact my experience racing a 2008 GSXR 1000 is what gave me the idea to raise the rear on an SDR in the first place..

    • @JimJuno
      @JimJuno Před 10 měsíci

      @@superduked33 I'm just doubting a little since the Rocket has a driveshaft it tends to lift the rear under acceleration. If I was to extend the rear let's say 3/4 of an inch would that relax the coupling of the driveshaft to much so it doesn't use all the space of the treats anymore? I asked my dealer and he wasn't sure either it would or would not effect the bikes reliability over the long run. It would fix a couple of issues with the bike and that's groundclearance and a sharper turn in at high speed at the compromise of stability. But the bikes has more than plenty of that.

    • @superduked33
      @superduked33  Před 10 měsíci

      How does it left the rear? I mean, how can you tell - can you feel it? Is it the rotation that causes this?

  • @emmanuelperez4885
    @emmanuelperez4885 Před 9 měsíci

    I Just met Matt on Haight Street, an old racing buddy/mentor of yours. We had a great conversation about the sport link which I haven't bought yet because I wanted more feedback on it since I don't do track, he convinced me and says that you're the real deal.

    • @superduked33
      @superduked33  Před 9 měsíci

      Thanks for this brother. Email me off Superduked.com if you want to talk about it. No shit it's pretty brilliant how different the bike feels and reacts and performs with a little help from better chassis attitude.

  • @darrenbutler9261
    @darrenbutler9261 Před 2 měsíci

    I love all these saps praising this guy for the free information to help sort their wayward superduke. The sport link is not free you just watched a 30 minute long infomercial . I would still buy one if I owned a superduke though ,but I did the smart thing and bought a Tuono1100.

  • @dieseleddie3945
    @dieseleddie3945 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Ok GoGo the sport link I purchased from you definitely help my 2023 turn in so much more easier and precisely which made me notice the speeds I'm coming out of the corners is much faster, so thank you for that. Now I am looking out for your future production of the triple clamps because I know they will help tame any fork flex so my question is, how long are you going to make me wait lol. No rush but I'm looking forward to buying a set. Great vid as always and keep up the good R&D.

    • @superduked33
      @superduked33  Před 10 měsíci

      Thank you for the kind words brother. So glad you like the Sport Links. I too can hardly believe how much my Gen3 has evolved over the past season. Like a different motorcycle - only still looks badass and sounds like a fantasy

  • @FluffyCoos
    @FluffyCoos Před 10 měsíci +1

    This is like going to science class!!!

  • @jamesbrooks6130
    @jamesbrooks6130 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Really getting into your videos, absolutely brilliant way you go about describing the practical approach to solving issues.
    I'm looking to get the suspension link and the triple clamps - do you ship to the UK?

    • @superduked33
      @superduked33  Před 10 měsíci

      Thanks for the props my friend. It helps a lot. Yes I ship all over. Same rate for everyone no matter where you are, $25. I pay the rest.

  • @mrnobody9821
    @mrnobody9821 Před 10 měsíci +1

    OoOoOh lovely video Eric. I noticed when you were moving the rear swingarm the chain moved back and forth, its an issue in full suspension MTB's which engineers have tried to eliminate, is it as much of an issue on motorcycles? I havent had a chance to play with the settings beyond getting the suspension a few clicks either side of the recommended sport settings recently so I will revisit with this new knowledge to hone in that cornering confidence. Great video!

    • @superduked33
      @superduked33  Před 10 měsíci

      It's an issue but not a big one. You just need to leave enough slack so at the tightest point it still has a bit of slack, otherwise the chain pulls on the countershaft sprocket, which is bad, and limits suspension travel, which is also bad.

  • @oddvaruglumlland3242
    @oddvaruglumlland3242 Před 10 měsíci +2

    I owned a standard 2020 model and changed to an RR 2021. I did not get the chance to ride them back to back due to late delivery, but even with my very limited knowledge/experience I felt the RR more easy to flick and "easier to handle". I thought much of it was the lighter forged wheels, possibly the more agressive radius of the power cup 2 vs bridgestone S22.
    After your video now, I revisited the stats of the RR and it is heightened 10mm vs stock bike. This would seem to do at bit of the trick from your modified triangle. I guess the progressive nature is still the same as OEM, but I will try to verify this with part number just to have a "reference point" before sny modifications. As I have just recently done some track days, getting to know the bike past street riding is my main focus. Thanks anyways Eric. I'm sure i will follow you, your videos and trying your products when base settings are set and experienced with my RR.

    • @mrnobody9821
      @mrnobody9821 Před 10 měsíci

      Hello, please follow up in this thread with what you find, I've been talking to Eric a fair bit over email and I'm getting closer to the settings I need, however my bike lifts even with the Anti-Wheelie on over uneven tarmac so I wonder if a 10mm link might help that aswell as the general handling.

    • @superduked33
      @superduked33  Před 10 měsíci

      While you are calculating differences it helps to consider that 1mm at the shock (on our SDRs) = 2mm above the axle. When you say yours is heightened 10mm, where are you measuring from - above the axle or are you measuring shock length? I am happy to help.

    • @bryansuperduke1290r
      @bryansuperduke1290r Před 9 měsíci

      @@mrnobody9821Have you considered going to 114 link chain?

  • @YvesVerstraeten
    @YvesVerstraeten Před 5 měsíci +1

    Love your videos. Still trying to wrap my head around most of it. You explain everything visual and with feeling I can relate to.
    Still, here in Belgium I sometimes go over it 2 times. 😊
    Regarding this video I have little a question that would help me in understanding a bit more geometry. Lowering the frond a bit, fork and clamp, and making the back shock longer, raising the back...could make the bike more stable... and so potentially reduce tankslappers?

    • @superduked33
      @superduked33  Před 5 měsíci +1

      Depends on what is making your bike "unstable". Trail is directly related to "stability". But I hate that reference. It gives the impression that reducing trail makes the bike unstable. This has not been my experience at all. I have reduced my trail a LOT and I have never experienced instability on the SDR. Personally I think instability on the SDR comes from squatting on hard acceleration, as I mention in the video. ...It sounds counterintuitive but lowering the front actually flattens the swingarm, which reduces antisquat. So I wouldn't go that way. But yes, in my experience raising the rear helps keep the nose planted on drives, which helps keep the bike inline. ...An interesting point that I have not talked about in videos yet is an entirely different way to increase/decrease antisquat - with sprocket sizes!

  • @wrightracing11
    @wrightracing11 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Hey Gogo. Have you thought about uploading the original videos from the site with the first bike. Where you measured the bike then started work on the Nichols clamps. That was the beginning of all this. Would be good to have the whole journey on this channel.

    • @superduked33
      @superduked33  Před 10 měsíci +1

      That’s an interesting idea. I will do a deep dive on some old hard drives and see what I can find

  • @bryansuperduke1290r
    @bryansuperduke1290r Před 10 měsíci +1

    On the steering damper, I’ve not had any headshake either on road or the 3 track days I did this summer. Few years ago I changed the fluid in the stock damper to 15w.
    I know I’m not pushing the bike to the limit like you are.

    • @superduked33
      @superduked33  Před 10 měsíci

      I raced with the OEM damper the first season with the Gen3 - with 15w oil in it too. Worked fine

  • @jamescurrie1285
    @jamescurrie1285 Před 20 dny

    Good day will you shock links work ok on a Gen 3 Super Duke GT 🤔

  • @SoullesGinger
    @SoullesGinger Před 10 měsíci +1

    Is having too much swingarm angle to the point that it tops out the shock under hard acceleration something you need to worry about? Like through turns 7 & 8 at T-Hill.

    • @superduked33
      @superduked33  Před 10 měsíci

      I can look at my data and give you exact answers of where my swingarm is at all those places, but for now it's valuable to understand that the anti-squat "moment" we are talking about here is just that, a moment. It doesn't last very long. At least not the most extreme conditions of it - for instance initially, coming out of turns hard. Anti-squat would be more active coming out of turn 6, than going through turn 7 or 8. Exiting 8, like when you're drifting wide almost at the edge of pavement at the end of the alligator teeth, it's active there. But going "through" 7 and 8 you're not accelerating that hard. "Too much" swingarm angle would be very difficult to get, on a KTM Super Duke. Think of the hoops we need to jump through just to get "more" never mind too much.. 🙂

  • @renetand
    @renetand Před 10 měsíci +1

    Is this link compatible with a SDR evo 2023? And is it a good idea for on the road and occasional track days? I am 108 kg. And at TTAssen my time is 1.59( about 15 sec slower then the best amateurs)

    • @superduked33
      @superduked33  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Yes and yes my friend. The difference with the EVO is that bikes ability to change ride height by adding preload. I highly recommend you alter your ride height using other means, on any bike, than preload. Because all preload does is raise or lower your window of travel. It does not make the spring stiffer or softer, and it really doesn't actually raise your "ride height". It raises your travel window. The up-side of this is it's easy. The Down-side of this is you can bottom out your shock if you back off too much preload, and you can top out your shock if you wind too much in. Preload, in my opinion, is best used to get your suspension travel window perfectly synced with the travel of your shock and forks. Once you nail that, don't even move it again. Unfortunately EVOs move it all the time. It's convenient but not ideal. ...Any Sport Link works on an EVO. They share all the same part numbers - swingarm, link, control arm. Just the EVO shock is different, due to the electronic adjustability. Great question, I hope the answer makes sense

  • @tonivahantila9668
    @tonivahantila9668 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Those links available for gen2?

    • @superduked33
      @superduked33  Před 10 měsíci

      Unfortunately the Gen2 has no linkage system so no, but there are plenty of things you can do to make the Gen2 work brilliantly. Go to my Gen1/2 video series on that bike. It's three parts long and very helpful

    • @tonivahantila9668
      @tonivahantila9668 Před 10 měsíci

      @@superduked33 yea i know it doesnt. Thought if there something similiar. Seen those videos and really good info. Best info ive ever seen, whetever u ride superduke or any bike actually👍

  • @ramondelosreyes3056
    @ramondelosreyes3056 Před 10 měsíci

    Why can't KTM install this at the factory instead as an aftermarket additional expense

    • @mrmojosrisen7514
      @mrmojosrisen7514 Před 10 měsíci +3

      He explained why as he has done before on earlier vids as most manufactures do the same!

    • @KabelSalat_
      @KabelSalat_ Před 10 měsíci +2

      thats because everyone can ride the bike. In the factory its a bike for everyone , not perfect but good for everyone . an He builds the bike perfect for Him . Only for him. :) thats the point . Manufactorers cant put that much efford in a bike . Thats would be too expensive

    • @superduked33
      @superduked33  Před 10 měsíci +2

      It's true. It's a little frustrating but all the manufacturers do it. Really no other way to build one bike for everyone - it's got to be compromised for all.

  • @mattmatt8338
    @mattmatt8338 Před 10 měsíci

    The video volume is too low.

    • @mrnobody9821
      @mrnobody9821 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Sounds fine on my phone, have you got a volume limiter switched on?

    • @superduked33
      @superduked33  Před 10 měsíci

      I can hear an SDR running in his garage that's got to be it.

  • @scott83gmail
    @scott83gmail Před 3 měsíci

    18:15. Great explanation and partially explains why my v65 would never lift the front wheel due to it's driveshaft.