Ranting about Terrible Games - Life is Strange: True Colors
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- čas přidán 24. 07. 2024
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Chapters
0:00 - Start
1:40 - Pacing and Plot
10:22 - Characters
19:21 - Fear of Failure
23:28 - Conclusion
25:03 - Credits and Patreon Thanking
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700 dollars and I cover another trash game from Dontnod:
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Edit: Additional note and disclaimer, someone told me about the situation with Bad End Theater - And while that's a murky situation, note my praise is only for the game and not the creator - I'm someone who can separate the art from the artist, and the development of this video was BEFORE any of this happened. I won't get into details, but don't assume that EVERYONE knows about the situation, because not everyone looks into drama on everything. In addition, I made a mistake, Steph does not betray you despite your choices... Which if you ask me just seems rather stupid since the game takes away more options.
_Another?_ All that's left are the spin-offs and Remember Me. You _really_ want to suffer in endless torment?
Yesss twin mirror , or the game :
Tell me why 🤣
Not hard to make jokes with that name
Would you do the video in a UWU voice for a extra hundred
@@crislouise2509 you're a monster... but yes this should be a goal lol
I found it absolutely hilarious by your reactions and respect the way you do your job as a content curator.
I’ve thought of doing it myself but I just don’t have or not sure what would be good enough to show off.
But you keep doing the good job man. It’s always fun watching your stuff.
((Also I find it funny and awesome ghat people are actually paying you to do this stuff and hell, even payed you to just say Ara Ara. You are making bank in some ways man))
What if Gabe's death was handled differently? She's an empath, that's the whole point. What if Gabe was stabbed with debris or something, dying on the ground and going through all these emotions from anger stemming from his own recklessness to grief and fear. It would seem from the side that he would try and comfort her and stay calm until his last breath, but... Alex would see what he would really feel. How scared he was, how he didn't want to leave her. Just violet fear and then it would only leave his body, when he would collapse - dead.
Why didn't they utilize her power and used this opportunity to make the loss hit harder?
Or maybe he died trying to protect her?
@@Mangakamen Sure. Why not. As long as it's impactful in some way.
Pacific Rim did this with Raleigh saying how he felt his brother Yancy's pain and fear before getting killed by the kaiju
Don't understand how they wouldn't do something like that when her powers revolve around feeling emotions
@@Mangakamen He didn't really have any choice in the matter he was knocked into the ravine by the rock fall then Ryan cut his rope
How was Gabe reckless?
2:17 Gabe dies like that because he wasn't born a Redfield and so never got the chance to study in the way of "Boulder Punch".
If that was Chris it wouldn’t be him who would get killed, it’d be the Boulder that got killed.
@@revotrip2069 the Boulder would shatter around him
@@lonewolf9578 I enjoy the meme, but IIRC Chris didn't even shatter that boulder. He punched it to get it to move, so he could eventually shove it into position.
A boulder doesn’t come tumbling down sending a Redfield into a chasm, it’s a Redfield that comes tumbling down sending a boulder into a chasm.
So, on the “spoiler” that Gabe dies, I don’t really consider it a spoiler. It’s a framing device-Gabe’s death is what the game mystery is going to be about (or rather, that’s intended as such). Lots of stories do this-a loved one is lost and the main character needs to grapple with the loss and do something in relation to the loss.
The problem, to me, is the execution. If knowing a spoiler “ruins” the story for someone, then it’s a bad reveal or poorly executed. Bonding with Gabe is intended to make the loss of him hurt, even if you know it’s coming. This is a good idea, especially if the player is supposed to be as invested in finding out who is responsible for his death. However, the first chapter of TC doesn’t really have Gabe and Alex reconnecting that much-we don’t know much about their history until a lore dump in Chapter 5, and it doesn’t have much weight beyond “oh, he seems like a nice big brother.” Alex spends more time wandering the town and then they go on a hunt for an idiot kid (who had fallen in a spot where the landslide wouldn’t have affected him, apparently). Also, Gabe dying like Goofy in KHII ruins so much of the emotional weight. Why not have the rock slide sweep the ground out and Gabe cuts the rope so Alex doesn’t die too (instead of Ryan needing to do it)? Yeah it’s a worn trope, but it still works for dramatic connection between Alex and Gabe seconds before he dies. Or maybe a fallen tree kills Gabe in the commotion, so the characters have to deal with his corpse? A bouncing boulder that knocks him off-screen definitely worsened the impact of shock and sorrow in that moment.
Knowing Gabe dies in the trailer didn’t have to be a weakness if DeckNine worked at making the death actually feel upsetting. Barely knowing a guy before he gets Goofy-ed off a cliff wasn’t it.
Maybe if they put the dream sequence stuff first, to show how Alex's relationship to her brother is so tightly wound and how important it is to her. That would have helped a hell of a lot
@@Zynet_Eseled - At least some of it, yes. Having Alex’s past sprinkled through all chapters would have been much better than a “lore dump” in the eleventh hour. We didn’t need all of the details between her and Gabe off the rip, but we definitely needed more to emphasize that they’ve been separated for a long time, dealing with emotional baggage, and they didn’t have that chance to reconnect because he was senselessly killed right after they meet again.
Even having them have a longer conversation on the rooftops before the “Ethan distraction” happened would have been so helpful. We started seeing that Gabe doesn’t know how to connect with Alex because of her troubled history with violence, and the Mac outburst was a lot to take in. But there isn’t enough time to let the characters breathe. Giving them a hallucinatory therapy session later isn’t going to emotionally connect the player with their struggles; it might work for some people, but it definitely fails on a general scale.
@@Rikrobat interlacing it through episode prologue, and maybe carrying some form of angel or devil idea for the binary Choices, perhaps represented by colors, could work. But those colors would only appear through connecting with the characters, to get a clearer understanding of how these actions are likely to affect them.
Either way, I'd say that the game should have had a prologue with the lore dump stuff, interlaced with the information about the therapist conversation. Would better demonstrate the connection.
Yeah I was like wait, is he dead? Do we see a body? Cuz I would have to search for a body to be sure
I almost expected the iconic Goofy scream when he fell off the cliff. WAAAAAAAHOOHOOHOOOOEY
"You always had a choice"
Technically yes but actually no
"Your choice matter" should be treated as false advertising
Hard to swallow pills: "Life is Strange" and most of Quantic Dream games have the knowledge about social issues of a teenager and the knowledge about ludonarrative of a boomer.
At least Quantic Dream has some bearable characters.
Say what you want about Quantic Dreams, at least you can have a fun time with them. For example I was completely put off by that moment when they tried compare the Android experience to the Black experience (I'm black) in Detroit Become Human. I'm having a fun time with the game though, since my choices actually matter and I like the idea of an android revolution. Where we have Chloe who's problems can be universal, are portrayed in the most self centered way ever In a game where your choices don't really matter........ Yeah I'll take Quantic Dreams everyday.
Not just boomers, _French_ boomers and pick-up artists.
@@TheEmperorHyperion Wait, PUAs?
That's the last thing I would think of boomers writing about lesbians crushing on each other.
@@saucinreggie7900
NGL, when I see the "we're for equal rights" people compare African-American to robots, literal tools, I get a headache. Even KKK people don't do that.
To me it would have been interesting to have her give and take emotions and depending what type of emotions a person has they’ll be different and maybe even make it so she has to stockpile emotions and give her heavy depression and making the emotion you mostly where an ending to
Sounds like No No Kuni.
@@SwiftGale1 That's what came to mind for me too
Um, you actually could do that in a couple choices.
Did you play the game? That literally happens 😅
One thing I did enjoy was trying to figure how Alex survived being shot and falling into a mine without even breaking her glasses.
1. Jed is a lousy shot and Alex can bubble hearth.
2. A passing Hogwarts wizard casted Expeliarmus and Winguardian Leviosa.
3. There was a stack of mattresses in the mine.
4. She had a can of Red Bull.
5. She was an Android/ Hologram.
6. It's just a game.
Its 7. Plot armor
@@Human_traain Nah, I think its 6
@@Human_traainher glasses were the true protagonist
To be honest Alex is a bit on the "big bones sides" she is not a twig like Max. And while yes more mass equals more acceleration she had would also more padding xD
(I am big boned myself so I got a pass xD xD)
@@billybob3064 Yes. Imagine if Lenscrafters started selling Alex Chen unbreakable glasses.
The fact games all about choices have no bad endings really pisses me off. Let the player make mistakes. Let the player fail. If you're searching for evidence for a crime, force the player to actually consider how they go about it, because if they go around asking literally everyone in town, you're GOING to tip off the people involved and they're GOING to get rid of any evidence. Have that be a failure state, that they actually cover their tracks because you were too obvious.
Something as simple as that, and you can do MUCH more with it too. It's such a waste of potential.
These people don't want to make games, they want to tell stories but want visuals to go along with it and chose the laziest way to go about it.
Get into game development , making a game with that amount of freedom and have it make sense and be good would take about the same time it took to make Detroit becomes human, then it's more of a movie than a game
Couldnt agree more. I genuinely got scared that I got a bad ending when she got shot. But instead she magically survived a like 100 foot fall into a mineshaft after a gunshot wound to the head.... what the fuck man. And after no support from the community i still broke jed and got a good ending??????
This game has multiple endings bad and good, you fool.
THIS! Everyone’s complaining about her power and gabes death and whatnot but life is strange has always had the most bittersweet endings so it doesn’t really feel the same when the only two endings are both actually good
@@dryconversation7657 bad endings are such a basic thing to have in some form. choose your own adventure books had them if its not possible to have at least one then either the wrong team was chosen, not enough dev resources given or it was too rushed.
You’ve probably heard of it, but I personally think Until Dawn is one of the best ‘choose your own story’ games. While the ending inevitably ends with the night ending to Dawn, the branches you choose and the characters you can save or let die impact the game in a ton of various ways. It’s one of my favorite horror games ever.
Even with the dark pictures anthology those are good too
And most of the characters were good. Mike is still one of the most likable characters I’ve seen in a game. Life is strange doesn’t have any of that.
And unlike LiS, Until Dawn is a full game. Clearly the episodic game format is a detriment to LiS choices system. Same with Telltale
@@Saltedroastedcaramel How?
@@memesjack3615 Because the choices you make don't matter later on. Telltale got it bad around The Walking Dead season 2
I always felt like steph was just budget Chloe because they can’t write a different type of gay character
As much I like this series and Steph, I think she's overrated in True Colors.
I find Steph was more interesting and relatable in Before The Storm. Since she's Decknine's favourite character, the devs transformed her into tamer version of Chloe Price (thus less unique).
@@drunkenqueen3077 I agree. I felt the game was trying so hard to push you to her and I really didn’t care for her.
Steph and Chloe are Bi*
Still surprised that they went for one of the most boring characters from the previous games and gave her a major role in their new one, with a new annoying and narcissistic personality.
@@HushtheMag steph is lesbian she literally has the lesbian flag on one of her shirts
@@HushtheMag Bi now, gay later. Or at least that's how these queer characters are portrayed in any modern media. Because even if they are bi, if they ended up in a hetero relationship, then they have nothing special left.
So the powers have gone from: Time travel -> telekinesis -> Quick wit -> Feeling emotions? Okay
@Cool Cat Tell me why isn’t apart of this universe. Tell me why isn’t even made by decknine, it’s made by Life is strange’s original developers Dontnod. Tell me why tackles some serious issues, and it was executed fairly well. It’s not just remembering things, the twins can also feel each other’s emotions and read each other’s minds. The twins’ powers were chosen for a reason. Their powers may sound dumb, but it is an excellent design choice. Not to mention how many people this game brought light to.
Despite how much I hate the first two games at least the powers were cool. TC was so lame.
Quick Wit was never a power lol, devs just needed something for Chloe to do
@Cool Cat tell me why was the telepathic communication between the two characters
Its not the same person through both of these games, they switched it up. Yall complaining now and would complain of they used the same old thing LOL
I like watching videos disagreeing with things that i like. I didn’t really experience or feel a lot of the issues that you felt, but one thing i do agree on is the flashbacks. Those definitely should have been spread through the game. Maybe 1 after each chapter. Instead, they throw like 30 minutes of flashbacks at you right at the climax. I really like the story and the lessons that i learned but those damn flashbacks really slowed things down
Well, I appreciate you taking the time to watch this video - I appreciate the open mindedness and the rare respectful response.
The problem with Mac’s confession is even if she got it on tape? It’s hearsay. It wouldn’t be admissible anyway. The company would just say “NUH UH, we totally didn’t get a call like that, it’s your word against ours”. Without an a recording of the call there’s no way to back his claim up. It mostly just exists here to put us on the right track. And also to show that he’s not just some cardboard villain who let people die, even if he didn’t like our brother.
But there IS physical evidence on that flash drive later. That’s something the cops can use. That, COMBINED with witness testimony from Mac and others who can argue “Yeah we saw Gabe call and tell them to stop the explosion “, would be enough in court. Especially if you get Jed to break down and confess…
Hearsay ?
Ah yes
Certified Rottenborn moment.
@@Dark_Peace I keep forgetting his name is Rottenborn lmao. Fucking Captain Planet name.
Well even with the hard evidence in the flashdrive, Mac's confession can easily be dismissed in court since he doesn't have hard evidence and wasn't directly involved. But his confession would without a doubt give law enforcement reasonable suspicion to investigate further
@@CoOlKyUbI96 the current law enforcement is terrified of the company, remember?
@@ngrey651 True. I suppose in that case if the evidence did make it to court, then the only law enforcement who would be willing to look further would be federal law enforcement?
I always hated the weirdly pasty art direction for the characters. And when I say pasty I don't pale, I mean like everyone's face was sculpted out of wet marshmallows paste. And facial animations look like they're out of skyrim.
“Sure, you could choose a different door, but it’ll just lead you back in the same hallway.”
Honestly, this’s the very same thing The Stanley Parable made fun of, where whenever you go against the arbitrary path the game has you forced on, it just reverts you back to it to show how little “player choice” actually matters in most if not all videogames. And for a narrative-focused, choice-driven adventure series like Life is Strange, having your choices not matter is definitely a large mark against the game itself. As much as I enjoyed the OG Life is Strange, faults and all, my main issue with the future games is that they seemed to just repeat the same formula instead of actually improving upon it. The same awkward, stilted dialogue, bland characters with little to no development, plot contrivances and/or plotholes and messages that are either hypocritical or are so unsubtle that they might as well be branded in neon lights.
True Colors seems to combine all these mistakes in a game that should’ve been by all means great due to ditching the episodic structure of the previous game to just have one single, focused narrative…but for some reason sadly didn’t. I guess that’s what happens when your game gets a bunch of awards and praise, since at that point, what incentive would you need to actually improve?
So tl;dr, even as someone who likes the OG Life is Strange, the reason the sequels never landed for me is sadly due to repeating its flaws while never really improving on it in remarkable ways.
Also ik this is very unrelated but I haven't seen anyone talk about this:: am I the only one who doesn't like how slowwwwwwwww the other LiS games are (when they start at least), like LiS 1 starts and BOOM Chloe dies and you get rewind powers and you basically keep reliving a week and solving a huge murder/kidnapping/almost suicide and I loveeeeeeeeeee that, but I can't even get past 30 minuets of LiS 2 or 3 because I'm just BORED
no bc fr. they just fuck up in nearly same ways over and over and i really wonder if they just found an audience for this formula or dont care , or do they really think theyre breaking crazy new ground with every game?
The stanley parable actually had way more impactful choices than life is strange.
I kinda understand for BTS they wrote themselves into a hole bring a prequel - since they cant change things too much else it contradicts LiS 1. LiS2 and this Empathy one don’t have that excuse though, they have freedom to make bad ends.
@@Joe_Payne it even had different ends that were actually affected by player choice.
Yeah, Kamen's right about spoiling Gabe's death. If you're going to do that in the trailer, you need to either make Gabe die in a dramatic way really early in the story or make Gabe so compelling that his presence is felt throughout the entire game, even after he does since his death is supposed to play a major role. I know they went for the second one, but these writers need a lot more time on their stories.
Regardless of if you've seen the trailer, selling story-driven media is about hype and intrigue. If you fail to deliver either, it'll negatively affect sales and perception about the game.
I usually feel guilty for laughing about a characters death but something about your reaction made me laugh 4:58
Lol
What I will say about trailers that spoil plot points: I love it when they mislead you about plot points. When trailers are put together in a way to make you think one way, but then throw you a curve ball about the context...
My favorite shit.
That's perfectly fine... Too bad this game didn't do that.
@@Mangakamen no, I get that. I can understand telling the audience about some things if they're going to happen early in the story, but something big like that should have been left alone.
I still remember popping MGS 2 in for the first time and going"who's this raiden kid? The trailer showed snake" and it was beautiful looking back. I got got.
Danganronpa v3 did that in a crazy way lol
My biggest problem with TC is how despite Alex being shot and falling who knows how many feet straight into a mine, she not only doesn’t die, but comes out mostly fine. I’ve seen plot armor but that’s REALLY bad plot armor.
I have a feeling that a bunch of people are going to force feed you that cash in a couple months, but yeah, Life is Strange constantly has its head up its ass. It feels like it wants to have your choices matter and yet wants to tell a linear story at the same time. Except that's a line that's pretty much impossible to walk without falling one way or the other. Even Deltarune, try as it may, shows some indications of leaning towards your choices actually mattering in the Snowgrave route. Granted, the ending is still the same, but there are still little things that could possibly build up over time. If there is a Life is Strange 4, they need to finally make the decision to either tell a linear story like any other game or have your choices change anything like in Dying Light 2, Undertale, and The Stanley Parable.
I mean, we don't even know what "your choices don't matter" means in the context of Deltarune yet. For example, Flowey starts off Undertale by saying that it's "kill or be killed" but the entire premise of Undertale revolves around how that isn't true.
There are also other theories that the "Your" in that sentence isn't referring to the player, but is instead referring to Kris and that it's talking about how the Player is essentially overriding Kris' free will in order to play the game. Kris can't influence anything, only the player can.
@@Birthday888 True, but the “your” could also apply to the player since we can’t change how the first two chapters end no matter what we do. While yes, Undertale did have that message, it worked because Undertale was a game about choices affecting everything. Flowey was simply encouraging you to be like him. Deltarune however is a lot more strict with its premise. You’re outright told that your choices are meaningless and even see how meaningless they are every step of the way. At least in chapter 1. Chapter 2 does sort of lean towards your choices mattering.
@@tonysonic456 We are told this by the unnamed narrator at the beginning of Chapter 1. You are assuming that this narrator is the game or the creator explaining the premise of the game, and not another character that we will interact with later. Much like how the narrator in Undertale turned out to be Chara.
But like I said, we're lacking context. Deltarune is an unfinished game. You could end up right, and I could end up right. We have to wait and see.
Maybe not Dying Light 2, as I heard player choice was significantly watered down halfway through development, but you're right on the money with Undertale. I can't speak for The Stanley Parable, though; I haven't played.
@@truecaliber1995dying light 2 still has super different choices and is one of the only games of that scale that have actual differences in the world and story based on what you choose
Honestly the devs of life is strange should consider playing a Japanese visual novel since those are basically what their games are, minus the bad endings. And their games can benefit from said bad endings. Either way to me the biggest issue with these Life is Strange games are the characters. Whoever has been in charge of writing them needs to replaced. Dialogue is terrible and the characters (who are suppose to be good) end up being insufferable. In the last game, if I had the option of letting the blue haired girl die. I would take it without hesitation.
Fr I don't get Life is Strange's obsession with making so many characters unlikable. It's like they think it makes it more "mature and realistic" or something. Just once, they should just try making a story where the main characters are likable good people for once lol
Visual novels don't make cringy young adults, teenagers and people with daddy issues excited.
Maybe people like you and the dude who did this mediocre unconvincing review should just not play these games you know you are not going to like. Every critic these days just sounds like they are determined to be miserable.
Most visual novels are kinetic novels though...
Also Don't Nod (not Deck Nine though) literally made a visual novel in 2023 with many many choices (Harmony: The Fall of Reverie)... I'm not playing that game anytime soon though, they used french inclusive language and even neo pronouns I heard (which doesn't exist at all mind you french don't have neutral pronouns) that's a big yikes for me lol
Every time a character tposed during an 'emotional scene' i was laughing hysterically
What the lesson we get from the video
Le drama = good writing
Jed is based
Gaslighting best way to go for everything
Writers take notes
Good review, I just wanted to make some quick points.
1. The biggest thing I wanted to point out is at times Alex's powers feel more like just straight-up mind reading than being an empath. For starters, it's already VERY unusual to have her be able to read thoughts, most empaths in other fiction can only tell emotion (auras) and not read minds. The writers try to place a limit on this by saying she can only do it when people feel a strong emotion but "strong" emotion is completely subjective and by just walking around town very common everyday worries like for ones job, future, crushes etc. are strong enough to let Alex mind read them so it clearly doesn't take much. This makes it even more stupid that Alex couldn't read Jed and realized he was involved. Also as you pointed out in the lore we're constantly told that Alex has a hard time maintaining control of herself in the presence of strong emotions but after the Mac encounter, this is completely dropped and forgotten. And don't get me started on her ability to read emotions on objects; given how random some of these flashback emotion scenes are this entire town should be literal in item emotions that Alex can read. It's clearly just a plot device to flesh out character motives and give Alex information in lazy fashion.
2. Okay so this is actually a correction to your point above which I don't blame you for considering the choices you made. So Gabe being killed is Ethan's fault, I mean not just his but he is one of the people responsible for it. If you tell Gabe early it's revealed that Ethan has been warned and even punished for playing in the mines before but still does it anyway; not to mention the blasts and warnings were posted all over town so it's a little weird that Ethan does this, to begin with, but I guess kids will be stupid. So with that in mind, it's understandable that Char would blame Ethan, and she even states she feels guilty for this and feels like a bad mother for it.
Likewise, her blaming everyone (including Alex) is a normal part of the grieving process. Alex taking away emotions is supposed to be the wrong choice here, since without anger a person spirals into a numb empty feeling. That's why Char votes against Alex since she was the last person whom she talked with before feeling this empty and dead inside. But you would be forgiven for not knowing this since other than a throwaway line by Alex before the choice the game never properly tells the player what their choice means. Also for some reason when you take away Pike's fear it gets him to vote for you which is a good thing; the only justification fans can come up for this is that taking away Pike's fear is a good thing for Alex in that moment but in the long term it's probably going to be bad for Pike since fear is important.
3. To give the game it's due while as a mystery the game utterly fails, as a game about dealing with grief and moving past it I think it sometimes nails it. It feels realistic to have people projecting their guilt with anger, feeling anger at everyone, shutting down, sadness etc.
I didn't like that it essentially forced you into taking away Pike's fear, I didn't want to sign the affidavit but I also didn't want to take away his fear but the there was no alternative option.
Regarding taking away people's emotions I got the impression it was emotions specifically relating to a particular topic not that they would never be able to feel anger or fear ever again.
@@munchkette The game's understanding of how law enforcement works is very interesting. I mean that's not to say corruption isn't a thing, and Alex could have been arrested on false charges but the game constantly forgets that her friend and ally Ryan is a PARK RANGER, aka he is a law enforcement officer.
Granted the game never clarifies what his jurisdiction is but even still if the charges are outrageous and clearly corrupt Ryan should be able to get it thrown out and get Pike in a lot of trouble. Alex would too, eventually but it's easier for other law enforcement officers to request assistance from higher level agencies when dealing with other departments.
Also this could have been an opportunity for the game to make the side quests and your choices matter more. Like picking the right set of options would gain Pike's loyalty and give Alex the option of talking Pike down but instead the game wants to force this choice on us that as far as we can see has no downsides to messing with Pike's head.
Speaking of Alex's powers, that brings me to your second point. It's hard to say how Alex's powers work since the writing is very inconsistent and uses it as crutch for the plot a lot of times. Based on the limited interaction with Char it seems like its affecting all aspects of her life, but that could be because Gabe's death is affecting all aspects of her life, we just don't know or have enough evidence to draw a conclusion.
Gee, Kamen. Why are you reviewing another Life is Strange game?
Kamen: Because I lost control of my life.
I want MangaKamen to look at "Tell Me Why" so badly since its another Deck Nine terrible game.
Tell Me Why is made by Dontnod actually. Deck Nine only worked on this and Before the Storm.
Summary please?
It was interesting to see a perspective of a trans character but the end just made me upset. It’s pretty much: well we decide what happen and we never learn the truth (this is as far as I can remember it).
Put your grasses on nothing will be wrong
@@revi6482 (SPOILERS) We learn that their mother accepted the trans character in the end (in the shack roof section), which just makes it worse because even after that we can say she wanted to kill him for some reason, when it was obviously not the case.
Alex's powers show how fucked the developers are. It shows how detached these kinds of people are from actual emotions.
@@STAR-de9lo cope
Not really. Her superpower is empathy amplified. Instead of just feeling empathy for others, she also sees and hears their thoughts. She’s not just feeling that empathy, she’s experiencing exactly what they feel and not just relating to it.
@@dextersynesterformerlysorb5334 it’s a game about superpowers, it’s not meant to be 100% true to life. It’s just a fantasy game for fun. Plus I never said this was empathy, I said she feels empathy but her superpower is amplifying emotions.
@@dextersynesterformerlysorb5334 it’s just a game, you really don’t have to be so literal about it. If you don’t enjoy the game then that’s fine, but you don’t have to hate on people for liking it.
She’s an empath, people have this power irl this is just exaggerated for the game
I'm not even convinced that Jed was evil during the part where they left Alex's dad to die. He's an asshole, but he ordered everyone to evacuate from the crumbling cave anyway, and Alex's dad just happened to be cut off by the crumbling cave
Blowing up the place to cover this up while knowing that a group would head there was definitely evil, but even if we were to assume they found the dead miners, what about the other surviving miners he ordered to evacuate?
And are we seriously to believe that the company didn't audit for their lost workers and reach out to their families to avoid getting sued?
The reason that Jed is seen as responsible for it is because his refusal to stop when he could see the warning signs of a cave in and the other workers literally point it out but he refuses to accept the reality of the situation so they keep going and he gets mr chen and the other miners killed because of his actions
Must say, LIS video essays are very entertaining to watch tbh!! Also, this stream made my day must say, thanks!!
The best examples, aside from TelTale games, where your decisions matter and have an effect later on are 'The Letter' and the games in the same universe as 'Until Dawn'.
I would add the Zero escape series to the list. Heck the whole point of the second game in the series is, that you need information from other "paths" in the timeline to progress the one you are at right now.
@@aureliodeprimus8018 Well that's the entire franchise.
@@neonnwave1 All right i wasn`t sure. 999 i never found in retail and the emulation was wonkey. And Zero Time Dilemma i completely missed.
@@aureliodeprimus8018 999 was one of the fucking greatest video games of all time
Dude, even Infernax has more meaningful choices.
And it's a platformer action game.
Power of making people T-pose uncontrollably sounds not bad.
I respect your criticism for these games, even if I love the franchise personally. I hope Decknine/Dontnod see these videos so that the franchise improves overall going forward.
Respect
dontnod has nothing to see, they did LIS games perfect
@@izen7170 No respect
@@derumasforlos4285 decknine is shit
@@izen7170 don't lie to yourself dude
I really did enjoy this game but it definitely did have its flaws. One flaw that I didn’t hear in the video was Alex’s and Gabe’s dad had left them 10 years ago but apparently died 12 years ago in the mines.
im glad you mentioned detroit when talking about thse types of games, while not perfect it is one of the few examples where it actually feels like the story properly reacts to your actions and choices and i think thats due to having multiple main characers so the story can continue on if one dies as well as having a character like conner who just gets remade if he dies so the story can continue on however his death still effects those around him as well as if he got enough information to continue his investigations so it doesnt make his deaths meaningless
Are you into tactical RPGs? Triangle Strategy has a lot of branching paths. The route system isn't perfect, but it is pretty good
I'd honestly rather replay Before the Storm than True Color's.
I haven't played True Color's but is it really that bad ? I honestly hated Before The Storm
*loads up shotgun* YOU TAKE THAT BACK MAN! I don't need you to torture yourself just to make a point
Ion know bout all of that,,,tbh at least true colors had more likeable characters imo
That's harsh, True colors is better than before the storm by a mile
Oh god. Is it that bad? Before the Storm is one of the worst games I've ever played and I loved the 1st LiS game.
The part when Alex confronts Jed pisses me off. Like she’s trying to play to his emotions or something by making him feel guilty but I seriously just wanted her to GET MAD! He just tried to kill you! At least try to care that you almost died!
I get he’s already trying to gaslight her do her getting mad wouldn’t help, but I also hate how her reiterating the same thing over and over again somehow just breaks him ??
There’s zero emotion in the whole confrontation and the resolution was so easy🙄
I honestly adored and loved this game, but, I do think that some of the points you made were valid, and even I had some gripes of my own, primarily Alex’s powers, and the different plot-holes and inaccuracies with it. I also do think my experience varied since I watched a review that specifically told me (the viewer) not to watch the trailer as it spoils the central mystery.
I kind of wish that the cutscenes were skipable and/or that you could speed them up.
I am so glad I waited to see how True Colors fared before deciding if I wanted to actually buy it or not. I am a sucker for the empath trope and I was curious how it could be used it influence characters or plot points. But well, it's pretty obvious that the game does nothing useful or consistent with these abilities, eventually switching Alex to a telepath / Elsa who can read memories from objects instead of water. I was really interested in the fight between Mac and Gabe (stationary posing nonsense aside), but as Kamen points out, it's the only time where Alex is truly overwhelmed by someone else's emotions and we don't get to see her learning how to overcome this sort of danger.
I think the greatest issue I take with the Life Is Strange games is that all of them have a lot of potential. Part of the reason I consider them so polarizing is because they have great ideas in there, but the execution is often weak or unsatisfying, which leaves the overall experience very frustrating. They definitely work for a core audience, but I think that's from the audience seeing some elements they enjoy and focusing on them only. For outsiders who try to engage with the game, the mediocrity and lack of achieved potential just leaves a bad taste. At least for me, I know LIS titles could be so much stronger or critically engaging, but they just never dig deeper or try to make a cohesive experience with the mechanics and choices. It feels more like a bare minimum effort and walking away because it's "good enough."
Life is strange relies on LGBT, left and right political and propaganda and hard topics. Before the storm is hard to play for some people because it reflect addict parents. Before the storm had what made life is strange with topics of death end up being a punchline in a bad joke. The best way to describe life is strange is emotional torture. You either hate it or love it but that love is the love of the misery and the third group don't know what's going on. Chloe is emotionally abusing Max by terrorizing Max with threats of leaving her. The aggressive stepfather bullying the unwanted child. The suicidal girl in the class you know going to end her life and pedophile teacher is all part of making you feel ill. At the end you're asked to end someone's life because she rather take her life than to live in the society. Militaries are honorable as long you see soldiers on a parade but they're either killed or has killed someone.
@@mahdeeznuts
This is it Max you do this for me or I leave you. You either destroy the town or I leave you here and now. You either do what I want at the diner and not picking up the phone or I leave you, You steal the fond or I leave you.
17:23
A gay character with no development that only serves to be gay and give the player a person to ship the protag with being shoehorned into a terrible game that didn't actually care to tell a decent story? Now I've heard EVERYTHING!
@Nick's Random Reviews
Oh haven't you heard, this is an example of positive LGBT representation. At least that's the impression I keep getting.
@Rainy Day well Alex is bi not gay. So you're wrong. Also alex can get with Ryan but your bitching people pick Steph. You know the person we knew the longest. Also i don't see you bitching that Alex could hook up with Ryan even tho that story line is not needed at all. Hooking up with Ryan has nothing to do with the story. So why pick Ryan? Ryan was shoehorned in to appease straight people. Why do straight characters just can't happen to be straight instead of making it their whole personality. That's how you sound.
You sound annoying
@Rainy Day no that's how straight people sound when they complain about a gay or bi character. The very fact a character has a love interest will label them gay or straight. So your misdirect anger is that a character is gay because of the shoehorn love interest. But the thing is love interest are self full filament fantasy shit anyways. There is no reason for titanic to have a love story, or avatar, or spiderman, or iron man. The stories of these characters are not impacted when you take away the love interest.
In other words, when you complain about a love interest just for a sexuality trait. That isn't enough reason on why a character shouldn't exist. One can argue mulan's story doesn't change even without the love interest. Hell even beauty and the beast is overplayed and the love has nothing to do with the story at all. Beauty and the beast is about inner beauty. Not love. So why the love interest? Because its all fantasy fulfilment
@@comicnerd420
"Beauty and the Beast has nothing to do with love."
The spell from that story: "You have been deceived by your own cold heart. A curse upon your house and all within it. Until you have found someone to *love* you as you are, you shall remain forever a beast."
It's obvious you don't know what you're talking about.
@@addison_v_ertisement1678 the entire movie is about acceptance as one is. Not about love. The love interest is secondary to the story of acceptance. Again beauty and the beast could be told without the straight love story. That's the point moron.
True colors didn’t even try giving players agency over their choices. If they wanted you to follow the path they wanted you to follow why put in more work for design choice branches if they don’t mean jack? They just made it harder on themselves for no reason. Plus you got to factor in how video game developers, such as programmers, are easily expendable to publishers and can easily burn out from working overtime and not get payed properly for it.
When i heard the comment of Caring for a character, the first thing that came into my mind was Final Fantasy 9 and Vivi Ornitier (spoliers i guess) in a certain point of the game, they explain that black mages who are being made by Mist such as Vivi, have a very short life span of 1 year after production, and there was a lot of parts that specifically targeted Vivi being the prototype and being possibly able to live longer, the player already knows the character is going to die at some point, yet his character is so well done that everyone (including myself) adore the character (Ranting a lot because i wanted to give my opinion lmao)
Let’s be real this is becoming a tradition.
Is it me or is the footage for his Life Is Strange: True Colors segments are *blurry as hell*
It's cause it's from my live stream.
Why didn't Alex just steal Jed's emotions before he shot her? 😂😂😂
Because she was caught off guard duh
Have you played the game? She tries to but as she's putting her hand out to read his thoughts and take his emotions, he shoots her
@@tomwells8093 It's not like he pulled it suddenly and shot it right away. I would have had my hand up from the time I noticed the gun . Wouldn't you? She had time
She should have felt the murderous intent as an empath...
Can't really agree. The game has HUGE pacing issues because of obviously being forced out early, but as a whole I enjoyed it a lot. I enjoyed interacting with the characters, the soundtrack was good, and the environment was charming. There were only two killer flaws I'd say: the game was WAY too short for what it needed to be flesh out everything, and the villain was needless, and the plot would have been improved by removing a "villain" entirely and just let the plot be about Alex dealing with this new situation she's in/the loss of her brother.
But terrible? Fuck naw, it's a 6/10, going up to a 7 if you're somebody that's just looking for a relaxing means to while an afternoon away.
" The game has HUGE pacing issues because of obviously being forced out early"
The game's development was started in 2017. Do you have a source of it being forced out early?
" I enjoyed interacting with the characters, the soundtrack was good, and the environment was charming."
Okay... But how does that counter what I said?
"But terrible? Fuck naw, it's a 6/10, going up to a 7 if you're somebody that's just looking for a relaxing means to while an afternoon away."
You really haven't explained why I'm wrong though, just that you disagree and your points don't actually address the issues that I have with the game.
@@seventeenseventythirteen7465 agreed
@@Mangakamen are u ok?
@@Mangakamen someone here seems to have issues about other people vibing and liking stuff you don't, me thinks
Great video as always man, glad I could make it to the premiere after quite sometime.
I actually want to thank you for reviewing this. Because with did NOT want to spend$80 on this game or whenever I would be on sale. Thank you for your sacrifice
"700 hundred and I do it"
MILK EM MANGA!
Jokes aside tho, I am glad you are able to just make content and get something out of it especially with how bad youtube at times can treat content creators
Keep up the good work man!
A star walks into a black hole but doesn't seen phased. The black hole then turns to the star and says, "I don't think you understand the gravity of this situation."
10:13 it seems that either Kamen or his editor are a man of culture, gonna appreciate that CircleToon’s Bean Meme.
I forgot Life is Strange: True Colors existed and I never even heard of Twin Mirror until this video.
Hey sorry this is mostly unrelated to the video, but do you think you can include a music credit? There were a number of songs I was interested that I thought would be mentioned in the credits.
The thing about the trailers, thats' so true. Imagine how hyped Thor Ragnarok would've been if the Hulk reveal wasn't in the trailer.
My old Scooby Doo computer game set in a medieval theme park with a Pizza Palace is a far more fun and engaging mystery than this, and I truly mean that, cause the culprit and clues would change randomly after every playthrough.
Tbh I really enjoyed this game. I felt more personality and emotion from max. I felt the empath power was infinitely better than the poorly written time travel power. I felt the decisions actually mattered rather than the given ending of a lot of games of this genre. I liked the side characters way more than Chloe and the people in the first game. This game isn’t perfect by any means, but I had a great time playing this. I respect your opinion and the video gave a lot of insight on things I definitely missed. I truly do believe this game is a step in the right direction for games in the genre.
always love your thumbnails man
I figured this would come eventually, I’m surprised they’re even still making games for this series
And a whole Netflix show. Unfortunately, unlike Cowboy Bebop or Resident Evil, it'll be faithful to the source material.
@@TheEmperorHyperion a Netflix show of this really fucking really!?
@@firefly56embers33 Of course, it won't be like Cowboy Bebop, Death Note, or Resident Evil in which the adaptations were the exact opposite of the source material, or Castlevania with some creative liberties. No, considering this Life is Tumblr, shot-for-shot adaptation. Every actor, Every scene, an exact live-action duplicate of the first "game" and its prequel.
@@TheEmperorHyperion and here I thought the Halo tv show was bad this may take it , also I did really enjoy Castlevania and arcane actual good stuff for once in a blue moon.
As terrible as they are people still buy them.
It's like RomComs, Sex and the City etc.
There are paying demographics that love to consume garbage.
Both of the most recent Deus Ex games have far more effective handling of choices and consequences than Life is Strange does. Where a fair number of decisions made in both side and main missions, lives spared or killed, how you reason with certain characters, even your play style, comes back to affect the games in both minor and major ways. Heck I would even say they even curb check the Metro games substantially in this regard too due to how frustratingly limited that series’s options are compared to Deus Ex. And I love Metro.
You know, it'd be a bad idea to talk about another game, but nonetheless: There's someone by the name of Arbitrator Wes making a mod for a game called Library of Ruina based on Yiik, featuring it's main character Alex Yiik
Can't wait to make a book out of him
After a while not watching your vids, it gives me a good opportunity to binge watch everything I missed. ALso, yes, all fantastic videos, this one included, and is always so enjoyable to watch your commentaries and opinions. Love your work, homie!
Also, Kamen is one of the smartest man alive. Want me to talk about this mess of game/show? Well, help me with the issue of my wallet being to light and we have a deal. Hah! Love it.
A man's gotta eat... And buy pants.
@@Mangakamen Pants ARE important!
What is a title for songs for "Pacing and Plot" and "Fear of Failure" title cards?
Pacing and plot
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Dunno about Fear of failure though..
You know what game has amazing storytelling where choices matter? Chrono Trigger, a game that's almost 30 YEARS OLD
BUT THE FUTURE REFUSED TO CHANGE
Gabe’s death really did hit me like a boulder!
I’ll just see myself out…
I think Charlotte being angry at Ethan and Alex made sense in her grief process. Regardless of the company's nefarious scheme, Gabe would not have died if he hadn't been in the area trying to find Ethan in the first place. She lost her partner because her son disobeyed her, it's only natural to bear some anger and resentment in the early stages of grieving.
Her anger at Alex is more circumstantial in that she represented a major change in Gabe's life then within a week of arriving Gabe is dead.
If anything didn't make sense I would say it's how well adjusted Alex was only a week after Gabe's death. You'd think she'd be a mess she literally just reunited with her brother after years apart and within the space of a day he was dead, instead of being inconsolable she was making quips about sculptures and consoling other people.
I think they killed Gabe off far too quickly, I knew he was going to die as the game premise was she uses her power to solve his murder. However I think we should have been given more time to get to know his character. They were clearly going for a traumatic event right at the start of the game like in Life if Strange 2
Yee! Finally getting that video on Yakuza Like A Dragon! >w< One of my all-time favorite games
I legit knew since chapter one Jed was the villain. It was too obvious because why the hell did he say “you might not get the closure you need” like why tf did he say that, unless he knew what happened lmao
Idk if it was intended, but that hallways analogy made me realize thay life is strange 1 had that exact thinkg in the game. The one hallway scene when you break time has you go through multiple doors until you go thru the single specific door to progress the story, and if you chose the wrong one, your sent back to the begging. Dontnod just said "fuck it, lets just have an analogy for the entire in this one segment"
I hated that they also pulled the same plot thingy again. Ohhh the bad guy was the guy that seemed to be cool and nice. Who would have guessed?
Like, couldnt they just have made an evil guy instead of pulling the whole „Surprise it was him all allong!“ shit again?
What song plays at 1:40? I swear I've heard it from somewhere
Backside of the tv lotus juice remix long mix
I love your reviews, more pleaseee!
i personaly think the backstory dump was placed in the later chapter becuase its not meant to give further information, its meant to show new information. meaning its meant to show that Alex never actually had powers but that she is telling herself that she does simply as a way to tell herself that she can control and know the situation around her. she wants thinks to be clear and one dimentional becuase she cant handle that sometimes emotions and things (like your dad leaving or not getting adopted) just dont have a set reason. its why the version of gabe thatś there is telling her to see and understand. it would also be why she is so randomly manipulative: she can't stand not being in control of everything all of the time.
that being said me saying that Alex doesnt have anything resembling powers but simpy gets confused herself when dealing with the strong emotions of others is just a theory that i choose to somewhat stand by becuase otherwise the last chapter would just be too random and dumb like some other points already are anyway.
but... she guessed Ryan's story about the dead bird
I personally really enjoyed playing this game lol, but I can totally understand some of the points here. There where things I didn’t like but all together I don’t regret buying and playing it at all
100% agree. I want to be able to fail in games, ESPECIALLY in choice narratives where the gameplay is your decision making.
damn bruv do you have any more pixels?
I actually quite enjoyed playing Life Is Strange: True Colors. Idk why people are bragging about it. I can get complaining about the issues, but straight up hate is just nonsense to me. The twist with Jed being the actual antagonist was kinda mind-blowing to me the first time I saw it. Yeah, the plot is kinda wonky and poorly written, but I can relate to the MC, despite me not having any disorders.
I think you just saved me 60 bux.
BTW - How DOES one survive getting shot and falling down a 1000 ft mine shaft?
Plot armor is stronk.
@12:26 This reminds me of the 'Glass him' option in The Wolf Among Us.
Also why didn't they make this a movie? Movies cost 20-30 bucks on Blu-Ray.......this 'game' was 60 bucks. That's why they didn't make this a movie.
That’s not really a valid. True Colours lying to you about what an option is is not the same as people not knowing what words mean. To glass someone has always meant to attack someone with glass (go figure), usually by smashing a glass or bottle on the victims head/face. That option tells you EXACTLY what Bigby will do if you chose it.
man I love that editor of yours kamen
Same
I personally think LiS True Colors was boring and uneventful compared to LiS 2. Ik a lot of people hate LiS 2 but I like it a lot better because lots of things happen, even if the characters themselves are a little stupid
LIS2 is shit
2:43 Had me DED and it also would have worked with Ram Ranch.
Hey what is the name of the song you used in the intro?
the song for the pacing and plot chapter of the video. what is it
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I heard this game was far worse than Before the Storm, after seeing a walk-through of the whole game turns out that was indeed worse however nothing ain’t surpassing the magnum opus of trash that was LIS: Part 2.
@@Pon-PonG9 I meant Life is Strange 2, not Last of Us Part 2 I should have been more specific. Though you are absolutely spot on about that game and the wasted potential of what could have been.
@@Pon-PonG9 true is impossible
I like that you called it "Part 2" and not just "2" like it was titled
Life Is Strange Part 2: Mexican Tendency
@@Pon-PonG9 to get worse
The worst thing about TC is how goddamn boring it is. Nothing happens the entire time. Yeah, walking around a town to “feel” people’s emotions. Real exciting.
12:43 Alex make Dio Brando look like a saint and Divaolo a good father.
Glad to see like a dragon video is still coming
That song! What's the song in the beginning of the conclusion?
I enjoyed the first Life is Strange because it let me hold down a button to rewind my choices.
… and then they removed that feature from every future LiS game…
I haven’t liked them since.
Don't blame ya.
It wasn't a feature it was the main character's super power - Chloe could rewind time. The characters in Life is strange 2 and True colours have different powers which is why you can't rewind your choices
@@munchkette Chloe could do no such thing
The choices in this game sound "But Thou Must" with slightly different sauces on them.
You also put spoiler at the end of your review to Life is strange 2 . Who told you we play it?
The idea of empathy is so alien to dontnod that they think it's a super power
Lol
Empathy could be wielded as a power, but the story has to be willing to engage with the pros and cons of this sort of ability. If someone can tap into the emotions of someone, can they also maipulate them? Is it invasive to use an "empathy power" to calm someone down to diffuse a situation or make them at ease when they have every right to be upset or afraid? LIS3 knocks on the door of these possibilities but doesn't engage with them. Was it right or wrong to remove that one woman's anger in that moment? It eliminated the anger but left her an empty husk-that creates a possibility for consequences. But in the confrontation against Jed, she's still bitter towards Alex, so what is the difference made by this choice?
Having a character that can be overwhelmed by the strong emotions of other people could have been interesting too, but it happens once with Mac and half-assedly with Ethan, then stops being relevant. Deck Nine clearly didn't know how to get Alex the info she needs from people, so they abandon the "empathy superpower concept" and blend it with telepathy instead.
@@Rikrobat I'm aware, I'm memeing.
Empaths are a staple in various media
@@aredjayc2858 - Ahhh, got ya. Sorry for the rant then; I'm just so disappointed by how the empathy stuff is handled in this game, as someone who can get easily overwhelmed in emotionally charged situations.
@@Rikrobat fair
“Meh” is all I have to say about True Colors, there were good moments and bad moments, the biggest problem with it for me was that everybody was so awkward lmao. The graphics were good and the OST was very fitting though.
Really don't get how people still say these are good stories. But hey different views I guess. 🤔
Also do you stream often & is it here or do you have a twitch channel? Your streams look like they are fun to watch.
I don't stream often, but I plan on streaming more next month :)
Where did you play this?
True Colors was only 10/10 for the foosball.
Would rather watch/play LiS2 again just to laugh the entire game.
I like the dontnod games of the series. The deck nine ones it feel like literally nothing is happening the entire storyline
Right after not giving player choice to actually walk away: "You always have a choice!"
I’m about to graduate from college in 2 hours. But let’s watch this first.
Hey, congratulations!
Graduation was fun.
Time to go see Kiss with the family!
(Also great video👍)
To be fair, the OST is actually breathtaking
In Weekend Warrior's stream, most of the songs bored me, but then Bury the Light came up and it suddenly got me motivated. 10/10 best OST ever