Love the Fantom! Played one this weekend. All the new wave bands of the 80s played Rolands and they now tour with the Fantom including New Order and OMD. If only they made a smaller and less expensive model.
They have a brand new Roland zero series, 6,7 & 8 man those boards are bad as hell and from the largest (8) to the smallest (6) all three are under 2,000 these new boards are a spin off from the big flagship Roland fantom from the year 2019 The Roland Fantom 6 ,7, 8,
Providing more accessibility to features and functions without diving through modes is a great feature. A beast indeed, nice demo Rudi! Might finally be time to upgrade from the X7!!
Thank you for the video. Would you please be so kind enough as to consider doing a review of the Roland Fantom 2019? It's not just a workstation, but I believe a fully fledged synthesizer. To celebrate their 50th anniversary, they've added a new wavetable engine to the keyboard. I really like it. Thank you!
If you've watched the video you certainly have seen that he showed the Fantom in connection with MainStage running on a Mac Book Pro. I'm surprised that so many people still use MainStage on stage although it's extremely outdated and hasn't received bigger feature updates for a very long time. I don't know anyone who tried the more modern and much more flexible GigPerformer or Camelot Pro and went back to MainStage again.
People use mainstage because it's only $30.. it doesnt really matter if something more advanced drops it's only $30.. that's only a dollar a day.. or less some months. 🤣🤣
I downloaded the pdf manual from roland's website and It looks like I will keep my Fantom G8 because I don't use daw's as my main source of production & I like the sequencer & sampler on my G8 more than the new fantom it's clearly not designed for someone with my workflow, too bad I was ready to upgrade to a new roland with improved sounds but at this stage it doesn't look as if they put much effort into the sounds. Note to roland gives us some kick ass orchestra sounds with a focus on good strings and brass and don't forget to add french horn like you did on the brass expansion board for the Fantom G, then I will be more likely to plunk down another 3g's
@@JuliusDeBerryJr It's the fact that it doesn't have a linear sequencer and audio tracks within the sequencer. The new Fantom uses clip based sequencingg and the pads playback audio.
You mention the Fantom 8 has an all-metal casing. Does that include the underneath? I have a Fantom X 88 which is a great keyboard. Its upper casing is all metal, but the underneath is thick particleboard (chipboard) as you need a rigid structure to support the heavier piano-style keyboard. Only the Fantom X 76 & 61 were truly all-metal casing including metal baseboard.
Thank you for the demonstration. I will be optimistic that it will integrate with PC ,window's DAW's in the future .I am reticent to get a Mac .I would like to hear a demonstration of strings .Especially string articulations .Like with NI session strings PRO 2 .I would also like to see semi , modular integration .Early days with this synth and I like it so far .Functionally it seems to strike the right chords for me . I quite like the chord function on the FA 06 .So much so that I that I printed from the parameter guide then scanned into the PC .After cutting to their different categories and enlarging them I printed the individual chord charts to A4 . Will a stylus work on the touch screen ?
The Aria line is such a let down because of the lack of daw integration for PC users. If this is the same concept then it's just another missed opportunity.
Nice demo, have watched others also, and have not seen any aftertouch demo'ed on the F8. I want to see the aftertouch used on the 88's instead of the pitch bender. Show me some aftertouch on pads & leads. Show me some velocity layers with light strings over hard brass.
@@djjas764 comparing the Montage to the Kronos isn't a fair comparison. Kronos is a workstation, Montage is a performance synth. The Kronos can do more simply because it's supposed to. That's what it was design for.
No mention of the sample engine. More specifically, can we play samples on keys as an instrument/patch just like fantom x/g. Please do,a video and go deep.
What about people who don't use Logic? Since dumping/selling Cakewalk/Sonar it seems that Roland's only real integration focus has been on Logic. I personally use Cubase, which I know is owned by Yamaha, but still. I do really like Roland's workstations...
I bought it and guess what,... If the Yamaha Montage and the FA-06 got together and had a baby, it would be the new Fantom. The sampling features have been stripped away down to the bare minimum. So if you're into that, fine. But the Fantom G's are far more superior!
Not surprising they stripped away sample functionality since Roland always have a history of chopping stuff up and sticking it back together inways that do not superseed previous gear. Ashame really on the sample engine, I was. Considering getting the new fam. I guess I will stick with my superior Fantom G.
Do they have an integrated daw interface or do pc users still have to switch their soundcard to Roland like the Aria line? Because if you do, this is NOT a studio workstation and just another overpriced keyboard. #djrtnyc
On Sam Ash if you go on their website and sometimes there will be a pop up that says backstage Club and follow directions and you can get a huge discount and with the 88 Key Fantom it is $300.00 discount.
V-Piano is nice. Scenes and clip based sequencer are nice. Analog filter and Zen-Core are all nice, but .. no multi-sampling, no linear sequencer with unlimited pattern lenght, no Supernatural, no ACB, .. I may replace my Fantom G with that, but only if all the features are there without a Mac. I don't need an overpriced master keyboard to control Logic. "They have not forgotten anything .." bland lie. This is an ad and not a review.
DJ Jas I guess the product management had set a deadline for a sellable product and rushed it out the door. If it sells, they may add some things to it, but like with the FG only content like patches and drum loops, not major stuff like multi-sampling. If it doesn't sell enough until a certain date, they will drop it like the Fantom G. Everybody wanted ARX boards with VA or Strings .. nothing Drums, E-Piano, Brass .. end of line V1.5 .. dead
I tried this out and the lack of decent acoustic instruments (other than V piano) is a complete joke. It includes old pcm samples only, no supernatural acoustic or VR organ modelling. This is pathetic for what is meant to be a complete workstation and not just a synth groovebox. The sequencer also seems more of a scratchpad than a proper standalone production tool. To say nothing has been left out is just dishonest at this stage - who knows if more acoustic sounds will eventually be added...I’d be worried based on the Roland track record.
Love the Fantom! Played one this weekend. All the new wave bands of the 80s played Rolands and they now tour with the Fantom including New Order and OMD. If only they made a smaller and less expensive model.
You could try the roland FA08
They have a brand new Roland zero series, 6,7 & 8 man those boards are bad as hell and from the largest (8) to the smallest (6) all three are under 2,000 these new boards are a spin off from the big flagship Roland fantom from the year 2019 The Roland Fantom 6 ,7, 8,
Fantastic monster synth workstation.
COOL COOL ... someday I get my Fantom 8 :-)
Providing more accessibility to features and functions without diving through modes is a great feature.
A beast indeed, nice demo Rudi!
Might finally be time to upgrade from the X7!!
Your X7 has far more sampling abilities than this.
6,7, or 8??
Hey dude, loved the intro track. Thanks
Thank you for the video. Would you please be so kind enough as to consider doing a review of the Roland Fantom 2019? It's not just a workstation, but I believe a fully fledged synthesizer. To celebrate their 50th anniversary, they've added a new wavetable engine to the keyboard. I really like it. Thank you!
I don't understand why everyone is still using the buggy and CPU consuming MainStage if there is GigPerformer with is way more flexible...
What on earth has this comment with a Fantom 8 to do. Please explain.
If you've watched the video you certainly have seen that he showed the Fantom in connection with MainStage running on a Mac Book Pro. I'm surprised that so many people still use MainStage on stage although it's extremely outdated and hasn't received bigger feature updates for a very long time. I don't know anyone who tried the more modern and much more flexible GigPerformer or Camelot Pro and went back to MainStage again.
People use mainstage because it's only $30.. it doesnt really matter if something more advanced drops it's only $30.. that's only a dollar a day.. or less some months. 🤣🤣
Great internet content! It looks very professional! Maintain the excellent work!
I downloaded the pdf manual from roland's website and It looks like I will keep my Fantom G8 because I don't use daw's as my main source of production & I like the sequencer & sampler on my G8 more than the new fantom it's clearly not designed for someone with my workflow, too bad I was ready to upgrade to a new roland with improved sounds but at this stage it doesn't look as if they put much effort into the sounds. Note to roland gives us some kick ass orchestra sounds with a focus on good strings and brass and don't forget to add french horn like you did on the brass expansion board for the Fantom G, then I will be more likely to plunk down another 3g's
I have the same problem! The sequencer on my Motif is vastly better than this new Fantom....
I don't understand what problems you guys have with the Fantom sequencer...
@@JuliusDeBerryJr It's the fact that it doesn't have a linear sequencer and audio tracks within the sequencer. The new Fantom uses clip based sequencingg and the pads playback audio.
Great demo Rudi, could I trade my Roland Juno106 on this new keyboard?
Mi Workstation favorito quiero un Roland fantom 7
You mention the Fantom 8 has an all-metal casing. Does that include the underneath? I have a Fantom X 88 which is a great keyboard. Its upper casing is all metal, but the underneath is thick particleboard (chipboard) as you need a rigid structure to support the heavier piano-style keyboard. Only the Fantom X 76 & 61 were truly all-metal casing including metal baseboard.
Thank you for the demonstration. I will be optimistic that it will integrate with PC ,window's DAW's in the future .I am reticent to get a Mac .I would like to hear a demonstration of strings .Especially string articulations .Like with NI session strings PRO 2 .I would also like to see semi , modular integration .Early days with this synth and I like it so far .Functionally it seems to strike the right chords for me .
I quite like the chord function on the FA 06 .So much so that I that I printed from the parameter guide then scanned into the PC .After cutting to their different categories and enlarging them I printed the individual chord charts to A4 . Will a stylus work on the touch screen ?
The Aria line is such a let down because of the lack of daw integration for PC users. If this is the same concept then it's just another missed opportunity.
Nice demo, have watched others also, and have not seen any aftertouch demo'ed on the F8.
I want to see the aftertouch used on the 88's instead of the pitch bender. Show me some aftertouch on pads & leads. Show me some velocity layers with light strings over hard brass.
PLS CAN YOU DO A review ON roland fantom-8 "key bed" ONLY. LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT
Does the Fantom have after touch? Thank you! 🙂
Where is the "review" in this review?
I have heard the keys are really noisy, is that true ?
Nope. I have the 61 and the keybed is amazing
Nope! Unless you mic it and play it back on a 50,000Watts PA.
This keyboard lacks supernatural acoustic engine found in JP-80 & integra7
I read this may come in a future software update. Agree it seems an omission.
@@djjas764, kronos and montage are both sample based. Roland's V-Piano has different concept.
@@djjas764 comparing the Montage to the Kronos isn't a fair comparison. Kronos is a workstation, Montage is a performance synth. The Kronos can do more simply because it's supposed to. That's what it was design for.
The Supernatural engine is supposed to be replaced with a new engine. Can't think of the name of it right now but it's supposed to be in the Jupiter X
@@gpr4eva, Jupiter X has synth engine. I'm talking about ACOUSTIC engine found in Jupiter 80 & Integra 7
Price?
Hopefully this means a big Sale coming on the Fa 08 Rudy..! 🙂
David Platt - it doesn’t replace the FA series, it’s a different line.
@@xp50player I actually know that.. 🙂 But when manufacturer's bring out new flagships... I'M always up for a sale....!!
@@davidplatt5957 I've got one for sale!
@@toddgrossmanmusic2167 yeh?. What part of the world are you from Todd..?
@@davidplatt5957 Florida, US.
No mention of the sample engine. More specifically, can we play samples on keys as an instrument/patch just like fantom x/g. Please do,a video and go deep.
I don't believe you can do that yet with the Fantom
Not yet but I’d suspect it’s only a firmware update to enable it if there’s enough demand
What about people who don't use Logic? Since dumping/selling Cakewalk/Sonar it seems that Roland's only real integration focus has been on Logic. I personally use Cubase, which I know is owned by Yamaha, but still. I do really like Roland's workstations...
Enough of the DAW stuff...will it simply load a SMF file? Yes or No?
10:00 remember Stranger Things songs
I bought it and guess what,... If the Yamaha Montage and the FA-06 got together and had a baby, it would be the new Fantom. The sampling features have been stripped away down to the bare minimum. So if you're into that, fine. But the Fantom G's are far more superior!
Not surprising they stripped away sample functionality since Roland always have a history of chopping stuff up and sticking it back together inways that do not superseed previous gear. Ashame really on the sample engine, I was. Considering getting the new fam. I guess I will stick with my superior Fantom G.
Do they have an integrated daw interface or do pc users still have to switch their soundcard to Roland like the Aria line? Because if you do, this is NOT a studio workstation and just another overpriced keyboard. #djrtnyc
dj Royal Tee The very last statement from you said it all about your fanboyism...nobody gives a crap about what you THiNK it is.
Going to show us the "key features"? Clever lad...
Dude you remind me of rolf harris.
6,999.00$ for the 88-key version dayuuuum
I think its $3999.99 sweetwater music
On Sam Ash if you go on their website and sometimes there will be a pop up that says backstage Club and follow directions and you can get a huge discount and with the 88 Key Fantom it is $300.00 discount.
V-Piano is nice. Scenes and clip based sequencer are nice. Analog filter and Zen-Core are all nice, but ..
no multi-sampling, no linear sequencer with unlimited pattern lenght, no Supernatural, no ACB, ..
I may replace my Fantom G with that, but only if all the features are there without a Mac. I don't need an overpriced master keyboard to control Logic.
"They have not forgotten anything .." bland lie.
This is an ad and not a review.
DJ Jas I guess the product management had set a deadline for a sellable product and rushed it out the door. If it sells, they may add some things to it, but like with the FG only content like patches and drum loops, not major stuff like multi-sampling. If it doesn't sell enough until a certain date, they will drop it like the Fantom G.
Everybody wanted ARX boards with VA or Strings .. nothing Drums, E-Piano, Brass .. end of line V1.5 .. dead
pcuimac 👌👍
pcuimac I agree... Roland should support their products for longevity, otherwise it’s a wasteful spend.
@hairypatchboy I will check this surely with Fantom G owners....... Why because it is lot of hard earned money buying the Fantom
I tried this out and the lack of decent acoustic instruments (other than V piano) is a complete joke. It includes old pcm samples only, no supernatural acoustic or VR organ modelling. This is pathetic for what is meant to be a complete workstation and not just a synth groovebox. The sequencer also seems more of a scratchpad than a proper standalone production tool. To say nothing has been left out is just dishonest at this stage - who knows if more acoustic sounds will eventually be added...I’d be worried based on the Roland track record.