Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Review - Khajit Has Wares
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- čas přidán 23. 07. 2024
- Chris Yi, Wendy Yi, and Joey Evans take a look at a game based on the open world, adventure video game of the same name, Skyrim.
00:00 Intro
01:48 Overview
7:20 Review
28:24 Skyrim Lore
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BGG Link: boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/3... - Hry
Had to rewind... I missed getting to use the noid class. 😂
Avoid the Nord!
That one got a chuckle from me too. Probably easy to miss as they hadn't played the game. No harm at all and I look forward to more reviews from Chris.
The outro was just the best!! 😂
Why didn't Tom review this one? He loves Skyrim and it would have been great to get his views as a fan of the video game!
I just haven't had the time, sorry!
That's a reason for him not to review it. They did a good job for balance given those selected.
@@thedicetower I think I can assume that it's Tom who said he doesn't have time. Hi Tom! As someone who loves Skyrim too, I can assure you this game is worth it. I've spent 3 days, when work allowed, puzzling over the terrible rules set, writing 6 pages of clarification notes & now have the game down pat. But I tell you this Tom! With that out the way when playing my Orsimer taking him into a Wilderness space, thinking it would be a regular event, I prayed to some Daedra, drew a card & all amazing hell was let loose! I dropped down a hole into a Dwemmer ruin & because of the negative side of the Daedra prayer I had to face an extra enemy in my dungeon crawl that I was not allowed to escape from (I had fallen down a hole, no way out!) - the first Dwemmer Spider stunned me & I was close to final blow, aka out! Ok... I'm getting excited here, but I just wanted to tell you Tom, this game has the major Skyrim feels! I promise. And if you don't want to get all the rules down perfect, it's totally ok to make fuzzy rules judgements just to get through the story. I tell you Tom just try the first campaign, get that random Blades story card, and see if it doesn't pull you in! There's some great Skyrim content here, with so much to enjoy, check it out. :) (I hope you read this, all the best.)
Okay! Release the Skyrim Lore cut! We need to see the entire discussion!
I'm playing thing game with a 4 player group and we all love Skyrim video game and we all really love playing this game, even being so many. I guess what helps is that we are all used to play D&D so down time between turns and always be invest in what others are doing is never a problem
I've never played the video game, but I really enjoy this game. I play it solo with two heroes.
Chris is spot on - The rulebook is not designed well, but once you get over the hurdle of learning the game, it's a lot of fun and flows nicely.
Too bad it's overpriced, and I think the Ashes expansion adds a lot to the base game (more quests, items, and mini-campaigns) which drives the cost up.
If you have played the fallout board game how does it compare to it?
I really like the fallout one but I'm worried it's gonna be miles different
@@olivercurtis2532Other reviews I've watched said that the rules are a mess. I was considering buying it too.
I used to be a board gamer like you,
But then I took a reroll to the tech tree.
Wow Chris, that was an excellent and concise overview.
“Fetus Scrolls 1” 😂😂😂
Arena!
So, are the quests in this one parallel to the Video game? Are the quests good?
The quests are the strongest part of the game in my opinion.
@@ogreman2229
So, are they adjacent to the quests in the Video Game?
Is there maybe somewhere you could take a look at the quests without having to buy this?
Would these work outside of the adventure game?
Cause I'm planning to run a PF2 campaign for my table, that roughly follows the Storylines from the Skyrim Game, therefore I'm very interested in quests and stories, that fit the narrative while slightly diverging from the actual Game.
@@derskalde4973 I’m not sure they’re online anywhere, I haven’t really searched for that. And yes, they are all unique but feel very in line with the game quests.
@@ogreman2229
Thank you very much for your answers.
So worst case scenario, I would have to buy this Game.
Do you have any idea how or where I could look, or rather start looking, if they can be found online?
Funny to see the guys reaction to the game as having never played it. Skyrim one of the best game games of all time. Its has a pinnacle of immersion thats rarely reached in video games. Their reaction to just a taste of it seems to show the board game got something right.
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First time watching you guys. I love the interaction. You remind me of Tom, Sam and Zee...
Love the game and the reason of each of you. I am going to watch you more.
Great review, seems like it could really do with a second edition
Does the ideal player count always get used for the scores? It sounds like this game is borderline unplayable at 50% of the advertised player counts on the box... Also 5-8 player expansion is beyond a joke! 😅 Just curious really, for me it would get knocked down a couple of points in the score because of the player count problem
From what i have noticed, the score is usually based on the "best player count", and they add the caveats on top of it. That's why they say the score isn't that important, you should listen to the discussion and see if the game works for you.
19:39
What kind of store works like that? COSTCO ! :)
"Fetus scrolls 1" x'D
I almost couldn't control my burst in the office listening to this.
I skipped this KS because I just can't justify myself getting a game with this size (box and everything) with the life I have; but, being a very recent Skyrim fan (yes I only started to play it around a year ago), I really would love to give it a try
Incredible scripting / editing for that overview. Watch out Rodney, Chris is after your job!
Great Review
However highly disagree re the comment of "If you are playing solo then you may as well just play the video game." A lot of people play solo games to get away from screens etc.
It's kind of like saying "You may as well not play board games with people as you could just play a multiplayer video game" :P
As a solo gamer I also felt marginalized by that comment. But the video does remove a lot of hurdles for the solo gamer. The fact that the experience you get from the two different types of Skyrim is completely different is often overlooked.
Taking the cost of the game and the hurdles to play it, I wonder if the tabletop experience would be worth it over the video game.
When this was on Kickstarter I went through the rule book and figured that if all these rules were needed, I might as well just play the Skyrim miniatures game by the same publisher. Now I’m slightly more ambivalent.
What about the story mode?
Not really a SkyRim game unless it's released on multiple platforms.
Need a PC and console port obviously. But then we have to think outside the box.
A travel version that stays and plays in the box.
Magnetic version to play on my fridge. Waterproof version for underwater play.
And you can't have SkyRim without the HD remake using a better printer.
this guy gets it
I finished the 3 chapters of the first campaign with a group of friends. By Chapter 3 we were just so over the combat. The combat is done so poorly. Just standing in front of each other and slap fighting until someone dies is not fun at all. It ruined the experience for us. Everything else is great. Questing and upgrading is a lot of fun.
i wish we would get a hybrid between this game and the ctg elder scrolls game. Then we would have the best of both worlds in a single game.
To be fair, standing there and “slap fighting” is pretty much exactly what the video game’s combat feels like lol
What's the story witth the non-standard (illegal)
dice in the left side cubible ? black 3/4 not opposite, red 2/5 not opposite, red with two 5's ??
20:09 You said this would be rated as a 4 and would prefer dental work in rough conditions over this game. What would a game have to do to earn a score of 3 or lower? 😂
Do the dental work itself maybe? I was wondering the same thing.
I thought the exact same thing. My takeaway was Joeys scoring range goes from 4-10. His 4-5 is my 1-2.
I assume that 4 means "there is a game, I just don't like it at all". Everything below might be reserved for broken games that just don't work at all, have atrocious rulebooks which you can never get through, etc
@@_Cervantez I assume you’re right, but Tom usually says a 6 is still a good game. Which narrows the spectrum quite a bit if your bottom end is, for all intents and purpose, only 4.
With a real horse. You are not able to constantly ride at a gallop. You could easily hurt the horse if you ride it to hard. You could however, have higher stamina during an encounter. Were you to ride from one point to another.
im not a solo gamer either, if the social aspect isnt there, i would just as soon play a video game. good review, thanks. i was sooooo close to buying this, i love skyrim, but now i think i will avoid it
ok, they just said the same thing
Tbh honest, everuth8ng im hearing is that for the streamlined, rules appropriate version of Skyrim, play Isofatian Guard.
While a bit more complicated, this feels nearly identical to Fallout the Board Game.
So much so, I had to go double check to see if any of the folks involved in that game's creation were also involved in this one.
Strangely enough, none. No crossover.
This game does a pretty good of reminding me of the video game, and unfortunately that includes the jankiness. Rule book was pretty awful too, and as a Kickstarter backer, I didn’t receive some of the extras I was promised. Probably the most disappointed I’ve been with something I’ve backed, but I’ve been pretty lucky so far, so that’s not the biggest slight.
So, a root canal on a small ship in a storm is, what, a 5 or 6? If you hate a game, it's not a 4 or 5.
The horses move so slow because of all that horse armor DLC! 😂
Deep cut lol
boy oh boy! am I glad I didn't waste money on this game, phew! ... I have Oathsworn and Frosthaven on the way, ABSOLUTELY no need for this game 👍
This is a fun game for sure, but the rules are garbage. The rules for how the campaign works and how you reset things and just a ton of other stuff is just not spelled out or spelled out very poorly.
Having said that, it is fun, it feels like Skyrim but I wish this game was streamlined for sure. There's a lot of little fiddly rules that bogged the game down into a three to four hour playtime for one scenario
The rule set is definitely very poor, but they now have an FAQ on their website, which clears up a lot of problems. Personally I think getting over those rules hurdles are worth it because the game really does present a board game version of the video game very well. I think the scenarios are well made, and other than the odd uninspired card, there is some really good content in there, with good writing, that is loads better than loads of other supposed "adventure" board games out there.
I just started playing the video game for the first time. I'm enjoying it. It's easy to get a little lost in the sauce with all the side quests and such.
That being said, I feel as if the developers should have took one aspect of the video game and made an adaptation out of it. E.g.- A board game that focuses just on advancing the skills tree, crafting potions, or a dungeon crawl with various caves and fortresses.
Make a solid design first and then find a way to integrate the theme.
I'm with Wendy; if I'm going to play a game solo, I'll just play a video game. 🤷♂
'The Noid' I mean someone created a mod in Oblivion that would allow them to order a preset pizza from Domino's but I think you meant Nord.
They really have released Skyrim on everything haven't they. Not something that appeals to me.
I grew up playing Yo! Noid the NES game, and I had no idea it was based on something else till a few years ago.
So, the only redeeming quality for this game is it's lore and quests, which came from the video game, so essentially it fails as a board game, people still may find it good because of the ip it is based on.
I'm with Wendy, at first glance I would rather play the video game. Also the video game has a huge amount of mods which allow of infinite replayability including 3 or 4 different skill tree overhauls. New magic systems. Some mods have added new continents to explore. All the math is taken care of for you for smoother game play. But, if someone were to bring this to the table I would definately give it a try.
Interestingly I'm more with Joey and Chris, I didn't particularly like how the Elder Scrolls video game mechanically played so just couldn't stick with it for more than a little past the initial missions. But the board game sounds like it has a lot of the interesting narrative elements from the video game but you mechanically get to play it as a board game so I'd be more interested in playing this solo than the video game.
A "mods" expansion would be so epic! The video game has one of the most prolific modding communities ever. Frostfall edition first please!
Upgrades you learn are basically just you add a keyword. You might get an extra die, but it turns into just pick a skill for a keyword you think you might run into. I find the artwork is bland and almost non-existent.
Curse you Skyrim for being so successful we still don’t have have the next game over a decade later.
I love skyrim the video game. This board game seems meh. Buuuttt....I want that box on my shelf lol.
Can’t wait to hear your thoughts on The Witcher Old World, which seems very similar , but better hopefully ;)
Witcher Old World is not similar at all except for the fact that they're both based on RPG video games and play out on a world map.
@@rainingtalent really? I worked on The Witcher Old World, and it has story beats and movement similar to this, at least according to this review, it seems to play similar? But more depth in The Witcher, at least from what I can tell from this review. I’ve only played The Witcher and not this btw. The combat is not dice chucking either, which I prefer.
@@RulebooksForYou
I personally prefer the witcher old world. I was a backer of that, not this. A game similar to this would be Divinity Original Sin the board game. Anyway, the differences between TWOW and Skyrim:
1)TWOW is primarily a competitive game unless you have the wild hunt coop expansion. Skyrim is a coop RPG.
2) Each game of TWOW is completed over 1 single gameplay session. Skyrim has a save system and is a campaign based game.
3) TWOW focuses around deck building and card based combat, with some minor RPG elements. Skyrim is heavily RPG based and has dice-based combat.
4) The goal of TWOW is to hunt monsters and gain trophies by defeating them. If you have the legendary monsters expansion then there is an additional win condition of beating the legendary monster. Skyrim is quest based.
Both games take place on a map and have a quest system with numbered cards, which is probably the biggest similarity. TWOW doesn’t have an overarching story and quests revolve around reading a blurb and picking 1 of 2 choices. Sometimes you may need to go from point A to point B. Skyrim’s story is more involved and has deeper quests.
@@rainingtalent Cool! Thanks for making those differences more clear, I actually want to try this out now more :)
Can’t wait to finally receive my copy of that game, it’s the first thing I ever backed and still waiting after quite some time.
The game has a very high rating at boardgamegeek, but it doesn't seem THAT good to me.
Lol. Skyrim is a good solo game.. lol.. I knew that 10+years ago.. I guess I'm waiting for eso offline!
dont get it to make a huge solo boardgame if you have the video game ....
The board game focuses on the wrong part of the Skyrim videogame imo, namely mechanisms over (visual) immersion. This feels more like spreadsheeting than an adventure. There are better 'overland adventure games' of this type: 7th Continent, HexploreIt, heck...even Legends of Andor has more atmosphere than this dry rattling off of actions. Easy pass.
I disagree, though at first when learning this game I thought the same thing. Visually this game will never be able to compete with the video game. However the designers also decided not to go down the path of say location tile laying like The 7th Continent. The reason I think they succeeded is that the file of numbered quest cards succeed in creating really engrossing dramatic twists and turns - as you play & your game progresses. Even though yes you only move your figures, and the roaming monsters on a static map of Skyrim, it's what is beneath the surface the counts. This is exactly Skyrim, the intrigue beneath the surface. This game despite its rules problems (now solved with the FAQ on the publishers website) is a success at making a Skyrim board game.
Way too short of a game for me, and relying entirely on the brand name for the video game, and furthermore, nothing special at all in terms of game mechanics; hard pass for me.
Combat is needlessly complex
Really disliked it. The combat is so dull after the first few times. The enemy decks are too thin with little variety.
I also found trying to be a damage dealing magic user to be worthless. There's almost no upgraded damage spells to acquire. Even if you're lucky enough to find one, then you'll do damage approximately equal to a starting melee weapon. You can't even use the spell when sneaking. I made the mistake of going spellcaster and was basically useless solo and next to useless as a party member (since the big melee hitters took things out before healing was needed anyway).
Finally, the terrible video game artwork for items is just so lazy that it's insulting for such an expensive game.
Hard pass.
Most people playing this game have played the Video Game
I love love love the combat. The set up and tear down is so fast for how much you can do in this game. The theme and mechanics of the video game are in almost all aspects of the game. Skyrim is my favorite video game, so i was probably going to like this regardless. But i think they did a pretty goodjob at making a solid board game.
I agree, and now with the FAQ on the publishers website lots of rules problems have been clarified. In all a really good Skyrim board game experience.
Hmm Skyrim came out over a decade ago lol...this isn't a new game lol
This video is a case study in commentary not scores. There is no world where the commentary of this video leads to a “seal of approval”.
Listen to what they said to decide for yourself. This sounds like a hard pass for me.
Watch a live play of the game before you decide. Reviews are very subjective and based on their tastes and experiences not yours. A live play is the best way to truly see if you will like it before you buy it. 😉
@@petergross7235 ironically, my go to is usually reading the rulebook, but sounds like that might not be the way with this one.
When two of you said you never played skyrim, i turned the video off
Well you missed out on:
1) The review of a board game, and
2) The thoughts of someone who has played Skyrim
Never liked the video game and this looks just as bad. Hard pass.