How to PROPERLY Install Wheel Spacers
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- čas přidán 11. 07. 2019
- Are wheel spacers safe? Does the wheel spacer you use matter? What is hub centric? Today I will show how you how to install wheel spacers properly and safely. We will be installing 10mm Spacers in the front of my MK7.5 and 15mm Spacers on the rear. In addition to the right spacers, we look at using the proper length wheel bolts when installing spacers. Also using the proper bolts for the wheels you are using Conical Seat bolts or Ball Seat bolts.
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The last tip to add a set of factory bolts to the tool kit in the car is a must when you swap out the factory wheels with after market wheels or adding spacers. If you have to put on the spare tire which is usually a steel rims for VW it seems to work best with the factory bolts. You don't want to take a chance with your spare not being fitted correctly. Worse yet would be to have a good spare and not being able to use it because you have ate incorrect bolts.
Your timing is impeccable, doing nearly the same install Monday. 10mm Front, 17mm Rear because we’re doing a Stoptech ST-40 BBK and now I’m stoked because the rear looks WAY more aggressive
Maybe we should start making flushish kits ; )
Or lug bolts that actually work with the OE caps 🙃
Bryan Green that’s something we are looking at.
@@Deutscheautoparts or sell an all black kit.
@@aceventura2515 We already do that
Black GTI Kit
www.shopdap.com/wheel-spacer-flush-kit-for-mk7-gti-black.html
Black R Kit
www.shopdap.com/wheel-spacer-flush-kit-mk7-golf-r-black.html
@@bryangreen9889 The OE caps fit fine with the lug bolts that came with the flush spacer kit I bought from ECS Tuning.
You have no clue how much I appreciate these extremely informative videos of the Golf R. My wife and I have had 9 brand new VW's in a row, all leases, and since we've always had new cars, I've never really needed to learn how to work on cars. Now that I have my 2017 Golf R, I have an itch to start learning some mechanical-type stuff, and these (seemingly) easy/beginner jobs you're posting lately make me feel like I can actually get in there and turn some screws. Plus, it's an absolute pleasure to see your Yellow R. Thanks again for creating and sharing this content! I tell all my VW friends about your channel.
These new videos are a Golf R owners dream..thanks!
Wife: So what are you going to do today?
Charles: Work on my cars, maybe do some mods
Wife: You work on your cars everyday :|
Charles: I know :)
Hahah pretty much nailed it.
Clams McGee same
Don’t get a wife who isn’t wife material bubba lol
Wtf is this shit.
@@futball24 indeed 🤨
Glad you covered cone/ball seat lugs!
I see it wrong a lot. :(
If you have a car with ball seat stock and you get aftermarket wheels with cone seats your spare wheel will still need ball seat bolts. When I was getting a tire repaired I had to stop the guy installing it from using the wrong bolts.
An employee at Les Schwab legit tried to tell me I can use conical on my ball wheels
Great vid, youre really here to help people out. Loved the 5 factory bolt idea at the end, great suggestion
Wow. I didn’t know how much I needed a wheel hanger. I swap between winters and performance, and I didn’t know a hanger was a thing until now. My back and legs will appreciate this lol
For the Wheelbolt/Lugnuts, there is also a third version you can come across wich are Flat seat/Mag seat Lugnuts(usually with a rotatable washer pressed onto the lugnut). Those are quite often used by japanese manufacturers, like Mitsubishi, Toyota or Lexus for their OEM Alloys.
insane respect for you. At my shop we cant stress these points enough the washer style spacers are horrible, we've had customers almost have wheel offs because they arent hub centric or event lug centric . also, bonus brownies because you didnt go crazy with antiseize. so many people cake the bolts and hub.... its so annoying to clean after too!
Finally bought a set for my '17 GTI, putting em on after our lunches at work today. Lift ftw! Also, FYI the wheel bolts now have the indent for using the factory cap tool as well.
Just ordered this kit too, arriving in a few days.
Definitely picking up a wheel hangar for my Scirocco project. I need to run pretty wide spacers to clear the wider track tires. 225 whereas the stock is 185.
Funny how so many people understand that spacers affect suspension parts and geometry (true) but think fitting wheels with less positive offset does not (false).
Thanks, HumbleMechanic, for an excellent tutorial on safe vs unsafe spacers and the right way to install them.
Fact! 👏🏻
Simply the best online technician. Thanks so much for your help.
Thank you for the wheel bolts tip.
Awesome video dude. Thanks for all the info. I've ordered the Eibach Pro Spacer 10mm per wheel for my Leon 1.8 FR mk3.5. I'll combine them with Eibach Sportline lowering springs. Hope not to regret it.
Excellent video sir! Very concise and informative!
Great video of showing how spacers should be installed
Killin' it with these how to's.
Thank you!
Just picked up a set of BLOX Sport from eBay, 10mm and 15mm good quality! Had a little bit of pain in the rear getting the extended lugs tightened down though..
Beautiful car. Nice to see you support shopDAP. A buddy at work has a mk3 in that color. Looks amazing on the R!!!!!!!!
Yesss!!! The mk3 Ginster is awesome.
Great Vid Charles. Hit every mark! Look to 'McGard' if one wishes to put the Wheel Lock Lug Bolts back. Have gotten lucky with correct Seat style, Thread Diameter and Pitch, and Shank Length for with or without Spacers.
Watching this in 2021...just ordered 10mm and 15mm hub centric spacers for my Audi A3. Will go well with the H&R springs!
Nice!!! Everyone thinks my r is lowered haha
Sweet little video, thanks!
Great video, thanks for the awesome tool recommendations 🤙
Great tutorial, as always! 😎
Looks so much better with the spacers!
It’s so subtle but looks good
The way you work on your car gives me a FULL SATISFACTION , and feel like bringing my GOLF 8 for you to do brake kit upgrade , sadly I live in the U.K. can’t cross the Atlantic Ocean 🌊 with my golf 😀. Very organised, neat work and place .
Thank you!!!
I feel like every time I watch a video the beard is an inch longer. I’m genuinely impressed and jealous, keep lettin it grow!
Hahah mayyyyybbbeeee 😜
Bought 255s for my '99 A4 B5 today (50 mm wider than stock). Got the cheapo spacers from the local parts store. Amazon ordered some longer studs. Payed $100
Great Video!! Great Info. Thanks
Charles, you do excellent work. If I were a mechanic, I'd aspire to be at your level.
Thank you! Id recommend to aspire to be better. :)
That’s a nice car! I like these highly detailed videos with a lot of cool tips and info!
You should do video on stud and nut kits too :) love the videos
Great video, thanks
Very nice video. Kinda wish you would have covered removal of studs for lug nuts as well but still very good for owners of vehicles with bolts. Also, your car is super clean, some may have to use some brake cleaner or sea foam to remove corrosion or carbonic buildup on the rotor face to get that nice seal and prevent the dirt from disjointing the plate.
Very good video! Would add one more check, if you are running longer wheel bolts, just spin the wheels while the car is up in the air, to make sure that the new
bolts are not too long and prevent the wheels from spinning :)
Put the ECS flush kit on mine. Really improves the appearance.
Terrific video (as usual). I’m looking at doing my Mk8, and the owner’s manual states torquing the wheel bolts to 103 ft-lbs. Quite a difference from your 120 ft-lb recommendation.
Follow the manual!
One thing not mentioned is the chamfer @1:36 on the mounting surface of the wheel...not all angled tapers fit all wheels especially aftermarket wheels. That angled taper at the base on the face of the wheel spacer changes depending on the thickness of the spacer and if your wheel won't fit completely flush to the spacer do not use that spacer. Notice the angled surface on your wheel @10:05 IF the spacer has to large of taper the wheel will not fit flush leaving a gap between wheel and spacer...you have to make sure the wheel sits flush to the spacer. VW stock wheels have a generous angled taper but many aftermarket wheels do not this includes hub centering rings too, many aftermarket wheels use hub centric rings. This is something that's easily overlooked and is not only dangerous but if you torque a wheel down that doesn't fit flush you can damage your wheel...Always aways always check fitment of spacer to wheel before mounting to car and of course spacer to brake hub.
awesome video 🤙🏼
I'm using 8mm spacers on my GSW because I'm running 17" Ronal Goals (ET 54) with summer tires and the offset is different from stock (ET 43). The wheels are pushed out enough that they look so much better than the stock wheels I'm running with winter tires.
Very good advice. Can't fault it!
thank you
I going to have to create a playlist for when i get my Golf R next year.
Dooo itttt!!!!😎
ECS makes a slick lug nut conversion for 5x112/MQB, they support up to a 15mm spacer I think!
Fantastic.
I just used a hammer and beat my fenders down and in...flush and no wheel gap done with one tool; no jack required. Thx charles, always a pleasure.
Hahaha
@@HumbleMechanic... Glad to know that you know I'm joking. Those universal spacers look like they go to a full size (8-bolt) truck; that center bore is ridiculous.
that is such a cool grey car
I've been running Eibach Pro-Spacer 25mm/front and 45mm/rear on my Mustang for several months now and have no issues. I re-torqued them after the first 50 miles and everything is solid. I got them for both suspension clearance on the front (previous owner's mods) and appearance.
Great video Charles but I would be very interested if you could do a follow up on this. Just how your experience of the spacers have affected the handling of the car. As I believe you will now have a positive scrub radius and most front wheel drive cars tend to run negative scrub radius as far as I know. The reason I ask is twofold firstly I would value your opinion, secondly I have 16mm spacers on the back of my van as I have slightly wider tyres on it and they were rubbing on the inner wheel arch when cornering with a load and just to match up I would like to fit the same size spacers on the front. Many thanks for all the videos.
Very nice!!!!!
I like the flush look but it also makes the car seem higher so I’d only put spacers if lowering the car as well. That wheel gap looks massive when wheels come closer to the fender.
You're a genius👌
Very informative and I just installed mine yesterday, unfortunately I have done it wrong the first time and can't afford to fix it 😅 Maybe next time.
Wut u do
I may do this to my gti 😊
Should have put the spacer on the wheel and stuck a wheel bolt through both to show how many threads go into the hub with standard and extended wheel bolt
This guy is an absolute mensch 😎
Yaaaayyyy. Among the first. Keep up the good work.
Just made my Rabbit GTI wheels flushish last week. Looks much better now.
Age and Treachery I was thinking about getting these for mine. Are they close to rubbing anywhere? I don’t want to have to take em off when I go lower
@@fuxidy No rubbing with stock wheels at stock ride height. Got 12.5mm in front and 20mm in back. Slightly less than flush in the front and even more room in the back. Can't say for certain they won't rub with a drop but I would say it most likely would not.
So Charles, what’s your thoughts on wheel spacer/hub adapters that change your car’s lug pattern?
That’s the set up I have for my mk7.5 GTI, with stock wheels.. great minds think alike
Hey Charles, would you have to get an alignment done after installing these or no?
Explained it better than fitment industries.
Nice channel 🙂👍.
Nice upgrade! I just suscribe to your channel humble mechanic, I been watching you and Jason or quite some time! Great work by the way!
Hey wanna to ask, what is the best option to buy a vw GTI, golf or golf turbo, which hach is the best and most reliable? Thanks and advance!
OMG I just found out from my AC guy that 1. We have the same AC guy and 2. You live less than four miles from me. I've been a fan of yours for years lol... Our AC guy was checking out my MK5 R32 and asking me if I'd ever heard of you (which of course lol).
Oh man that’s awesome. I’ve been thinking about adding heat/AC to the garage and was going to call him for estimates. How crazy man.
Hey Charles. Nice video. How do you feel about bolt on hubcentric spacers? Also I was told Haldex prefer a square stance is this true?
45 degree pattern wheels point front and back
from one side to the other of the car.
I like 90 degree patterns wheels just for that reason.
I had to cut a small section of the fender liner out on my R because it was rubbing the right rear wheel. But I guess spacers will fix the problem too. Idk if you noticed that. If you were sitting in the back seat, you could hear a rubbing noise when the car was making a left.
You Jost naild IT buddy widtberd 😂good video buddy 👉👈🤜👍sorry for my Engelsk 😂❤
Thanks for the video! Just installed mine. Any problems with the extra road debris hitting the rocker and rear bumper? Do you feel you need mudguards?
That impact gun is a nice bit of kit,is it the top line one with 25 percent more torque with a bigger battery
I felt a heavier steering and turn effort with 10mm in front. It changed suspension geometry in some way.
The wheel lug torquing was also very less sure. I had to torque 3-4 times with proper final number whereas just once without spacers. I had cleaned all mounting surfaces first of course. Does not make for confidence when the wheels don't torque perfectly the first time.
I haven't really noticed a change with the 10/15 I installed. But to be fair I have not really pushed her much
@@HumbleMechanic i haven't found anyone else that did. but my steering def required more effort, and also returned to center more strongly. I'm super picky I guess, I love the oem suspension feel, and don't like anything changing it.
What do you think of converting from wheel bolts to stud/lug nut. I have been considering this for adding a spacer, particularly if I am going to have different spacers for winter/summer/autox wheels.
Question! Should the wheel spacers be the same front and back for AWD cars?
What would your suggestion be for installing spacers on a stud-style hub with lug nuts?
Do you know if they sell wheel locks that will be the same length, thank you Charles
Question: can I run wheel adapters (they have studs built into them). Not sure how wide there are maybe .5 inch, maybe less
You can use heat shrink on the sockets to protect the wheels as well
I like that method. I’ve always used cheap shrink so it never lasts. Lol
Personally i put a couple thin dabs of silver antiseize near the hubcentric ring for easy removal and corrosion prevention.
What's your take on swapping the VW lug bolts for studs like on American cars. It sure would make it easier to take the tire off and on. Wouldn't adding spacers change the geometry on the suspention and create more wear, especially on bearings?
The front tyre gap on my BMW e60 is 15mm and the rear wheel gap to fender is 20mm. The rears are further in. What spacers would be best 5mm front and 15or 20mm rear? I want the rears to have more poke Please let me know
What’s your take on wheel adapters? I’m interested in running some wheels on my Golf R that only come in 5x114.3. I’m considering using an adapter to fit them but I don’t want to if it will be unsafe for spirited driving.
If I may suggest, providing a follow-up video showcasing the spacer vs stock look from 15-30ft away would really capture the difference in look.
I tried. You could barely tell in a picture
@@HumbleMechanic Thank you for the response! I also failed to realize how old the video was and thought it was very recent, woops! Keep up the awesome vids please!
do we need longer bolts even for only 10mm?
Do a video on stud conversions
I use quarter inch spacers in the front to prevent the spokes of my wheels from contact with the brake calipers.
Flushish sounds coo bro I’m running 5mm on my 2019 GLI 245/40/19 x9.0 seats perfect rears only
Question if i want to run 15mm front and rear also using 19inch 8.5 rims
The new bolts with the DAP kit have a dimple, and removing the cap is easy with the cap removal tool.
Also, the cap for the security bolt won't fit the new extended bolt, so you will need to order 4 new ones.
Not only does the hub center wheel, but it also helps support the load of the car to transfer to the wheel properly. The lug nuts were not necessarily designed for that task. Non-hubcentric adapters have chance to break bolts.
Not really true. In a properly designed bolted joint ALL of the load is carried by friction between the mating surfaces. The purpose of the bolts is create clamp loading so that friction between the surfaces is adequate to carry ALL of the working load. The pilot diameter is there so that the wheel is properly centered it is not intended to carry any load.
If there is movement between the friction surfaces the bolts will eventually work their way loose. I have seen it happen many times.
I posted earliar but removed it after carefully reading your comments. Referring to load bearing.. it's safe to assume that bolts and hub acts in unison in resisting loads due to everyday driving. Best way to picture it is along the face of your wheel hub is a shear plane and anything that protrudes between that plane is subject to dead load of the vehicle and dynamic loads from road surfaces and suspension travel.
Friction surfaces in this case, the wheel hub and rim do not resist all the load transferred from the vehicle. As mentioned above regarding shear plane and anything in between the shear plane will resist and transfer the load between mounting surfaces. I hope this makes sense if not the best way I imagine this is a welded connection between a beam and column. The load is essentially going from beam to weld to column.
@@DR-nc8nc One of the best replies on the internet. Thank you.
I don’t have this type of car , and I cant find spacers to fit it I need 5x105 56.5m hub 10mm in depth spacers any recommendations?
I have a 1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0l and I put 2 inch in the front and rear.
Did you blow your wheel bearings out yet
Hey there I have a 07 Audi a4 S-LINE with the titanium package 18 inch wheels and sport suspension package ! And my wheels are a little in the fender and i was tryna get them to flush like to the fender a lil more what size mm spacers would you recommend for the front and the back I'll appreciate your suggestions!!
I try to install a set but I can only fit the front ones, there is a cup or something like a cover in the rear hubs, so they didn’t set well. I don’t know if I can remove it or just leave it alone., any tips?. Golf 2006 GTI
I'm putting 2022 Golf GTI Autobahn rims on my 2015 Golf R. The GTI rims are 19x8 and 5x112. The Golf R are 19x8.5 and 5x112. I want spacers to allow perfect flush fitment with now rub and not lowering it. Any recommendations?
When installing Hubcentric spacers, does the chamfer go on the hub side or wheel side?
I have heard that if you have spacers you need to torq more than factory nm but it doesnt make sense right??