Carl Jung's INSIGHTS into SCHIZOPHRENIA
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This video is based on essays found in Carl Jung's Collected Works Volume 3. In it, I discuss the psychology of schizophrenia through the lens of depth psychology.
As a schizophrenic who loves Jung and have been working on individuation for the last year. this is a great breakdown of how Jung viewed schizophrenia. I feel this is a highly accurate dive into the unconscious psychic element of the disorder. Having experienced it off medication for almost two years at one point, and it was a complete ego loss. Despite how horrifying it may be, it is an unspeakable experience, wouldn’t wish it on anyone, yet I couldn’t live without it.
Hope you're doing well, living with schizophrenia can be very challenging
@@nexusvoid314 thank you, I’ve been living with it for over a decade now. I’d say it was a rough ride at first, but definitely have more of a handle on it now to the best of my ability.
He brings me to tears and happy he was sp loving and so compassionate to his patients that helped not judged he was a kind and loving soul I'm foimg shadow work and it's helping me out a lot
I am just recently learning of Jungs work with schizophrenia, I’m beginning to think Jungs work holds the key in future treatment of schizophrenia…
@@nexusvoid314 I’m struggling to recover from schizophrenia due to lack of support… Sorry to say chemicals n hormones do Not cause schizophrenia… psyche is an over-simplistic way of explaining the many aspects when considering the many considerations that attribute to a lower mental level or capacity, and the many aspects that lead to a weakness of the will.
Schizophrenia is like an extreme form of openmindedness. Your mind/consciousness is so abnormally open that reality itself becomes less material and more fluid - similar to being on mushrooms. This kind of openness correlates with high creativity because a lot more novel ideas are floating into your field of consciousness. But your mind is so open that these ideas literally start to morph your material world. A coffee table could start talking to you and giving you novel ideas. The trade-off is that your mind is less buttoned-up, so it literally starts to feel like you're going insane. How would you react if all the sudden your coffee table started to talk to you? Would you be open to listening, or would you freak out and run to the doctor to put yourself on meds to suppress it? Most people would freak out because they don't have a proper context for it. Under the materialist paradigm the only context is that you're going insane. But if you understand how consciousness works then there's really nothing wrong about it, you just have an extra-open mind.
It depends on what the coffee table is saying. It's all fun and good for self exploration and laughs until the extreme open mindedness assimilates potential assumptions, jumping to conclusions based on those assumptions as reality, then taking physical actions in the real world.
When that open mindedness becomes so open that it fails to use the filters of reason and logic, of intelligence, of a lifetime of applied experiences vs a relative moment fantasized potential, or delusion, its just a self centric, self centered egotistical perspective to think that anyone really gives one shit about anything that person is doing or thinking.
Their concept of self and their relative position of... relevance in others lives becomes over inflated to the point of their delusions pushing into other people's actual reality, they go from being a neutral presence to being a negative burden.
When that person drags others around them as active participants in that delusion is when things get dangerous for everyone around that individual.
Basically it's self centered stupidity. Either get it together, get help getting it together, get away, or drop dead. Better to just end any stupidity before it comes to endangering any aspect of anyone else's lives. Cuz what gives them the right to do that to anyone? Most often its people that love them that they drag into their delusions.
Cuz the coffee table told them to.
There is open mindedness, and there is just plain stupidity.
A choice has to be made. Do you go with a lifetime of reason in the decision or do you go with the coffee table?
If you choose the coffee table, then you're just another fucking idiot. If you act on it, then you're a dangerous idiot.
If you are unable to see the difference and choose your actions accordingly then you should be removed from the presence of others.
When that fluidity flows into other people's lives it needs to be buttoned back up, zipped up, and double vacuum sealed against ever spilling out again.
I know a guy that murdered a complete stranger, a university professor, with a shotgun cuz he acted on his delusion that his ex girlfriend was fucking the prof.
The professor and the ex girlfriend had never even met one another.
The guy went off his prescribed meds for a some time for schizophrenia before acting on his fantasized delusion.
Dudes in prison, hopefully to stay until his death. I feel bad for the guy. I don't know the victim.
But I think about the victims life, how he never even saw it coming, being completely unaware that some random nobody was waiting in the ally behind his to house with a 12 gauge shotgun to horrifically end his life over something...
the coffee table told him to do.
Fuck all that.
WOW. As someone who've been diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia, AND managed to recover after abandoning medications, I have to say, Yung's understanding, from a purely psychological standpoint, is amazing. His analogy of the house with the destroyed foundation is perfectly accurate. That's exactly what is, but psychologically for us. The only thing I didn't hear on this, and perhaps I just missed it, is that the foundation doesn't just get destroyed after some major event in a person's life, or that's major to the individual that is. It usually takes years of having the foundation of the mind chipped away, piece by piece. But you don't know it or realize it until all of a sudden something hits you so hard, that what has already been chipped away, finally collapses. The foundation was already weakend and we ignored the warning signs, and there are always warning signs. It never happens suddenly. Uncertainty, fears, anxieties, all these things erodes the foundation of the house, but these aren't normal anxieties and such and so they have more profound effects. But they're just as water seeping under the foundation of a house. There are signs, and if we ignore those signs then years down the road we'll feel it. It takes time to erode the "ego"...I'm not a reader of Yung but I'm definitely now interested in his works, especially on this topic.
Also, his understanding that schizophrenia (and other mental illnesses) are akin to dreams, and are basically waking dreams is 100%. This is exactly how I've described it in the past, and how it's similar to the experiences under psychedelics. Psychedelics bring you into the dream realm, but people don't really understand what's happening and so they just enjoy the trip. Some people do realize it, but most don't. But the barrier or door between dream dimension and awake dimension can remain open, and so we experience nightmares while awake. This dream dimension is also called the astral plane by some.
I managed to completely recover from schizophrenia by understanding that it operates according to rules. It's not random chaos at all. There's a system to it. If you understand the system then you use that same system to return your mind back to baseline. There's a reason why it attracts the attention as powerful as it does, and its not coincidence, but rather out of necessity. This is because the rules of how the erosion of the ego occurs, requires us to take certain actions. So the actions we take, then turns repetive and then seeps into the subconscious, and now those actions becomes habit. Those emotional responses becomes habit.
One foundation, one house is destroyed, but another foundation and another structure is being built in its stead. So we now have to intentionally destroy the foundation and structure built by unconscious maneuvering. And this is where the challenge lies. Most are constantly moved by fears and uncertainties, but those are the strengths of these illnesses. They work on negatives, and we've to use positives to destroy and rebuild the foundation and structure of our minds. It's pretty much an inverted reality where negatives/shadows rule. Schizophrenia flips us upside down, so a negative/shadow self emerges and lives through us in this world that we know. This means we suffer in the darkness and in a world we don't know nor understand. The positive self becomes trapped in the negative realm, and the negative self manifests into the positive realm.
I understood the basics of this, and that understanding set me on a path that led to me rising above and beyond schizophrenia. I understand much more about it now. It's not what it seems, and it's far less terrifying than it makes itself out to be. But it's just we become so small, like mice or ants, that we become easily terrified, and this fear makes us easy to maneuver into the traps set for us. It may not be curable (by medical standards,) but it's certainly reversible...through understanding.
Hey, I really appreciate this video. I don't come across people who understand schizophrenia and other mental illnesses on this level. Most people just stop at brain chemicals, but those are not the cause, but rather the effects of the cause. Treating brain chemicals is like treating a symptom and not the illness itself. The root is still intact
Can you help me understand the idea of destroying and rebuilding the house in more layman's terms? Thanks! :)
@lifedreamtv Sure! I can try :)
The foundation is where you rest your faith/trust/belief/confidence. For example, as children, we build our trust in our parents and their instructions. Let's take good parenting for this example. So, in our homes with our families, there's an understanding that everyone in the house is as they present themselves to be. Mom is mom, dad is dad, brothers and sisters are just that, and despite our differences, we know the care for us and we care for them. The trust we have in this perception becomes part of the foundation that our minds are built on.
Outside of the home, we have a tacit agreement with the rest of society, and that's in part a general agreement that we go about our business without willfully offending each other. Again, this is trust and also an expectation we all hold. When the tacit agreement is broken, we are offended, or we cause the offense. It's not always a big deal because, as we've learned from previous experiences, these types of offenses occur from time to time, but they're not the norm. The majority of society is on our side in that it doesn't seek to offend. We're certain of this, and it's our expectation as we move on from that minor inconvenience of offense. This is the understanding and expectations within our homes as well. Our inside world stands on this understanding.
Now, enters schizophrenia. What does it do? It takes that trust and understanding in your family, friends and of society, and shatters it by revealing them to be witches, aliens, or whatever else that would disturb the trust/foundation of your mind. If you can no longer trust the people who you thought you knew at the very least on the level of them not utterly despising you, who can you trust? Maybe a close friend. But then you soon find out that friend is in league with your family and they're all out get you.
At this point, you're no longer standing but free falling. There's confusion, fear, doubts, anxieties, etc. The foundation of the mind has been effectively shattered. Maybe you're outside trying to clear your head and understand as you sink deeper in confusion on why this is happening, but then a stranger walks by and shouts: "Good!" And your mouth drops because seemingly, they're somehow in on it too. The fear sinks deeper, but maybe they weren't talking to you you wonder, maybe it was something else... of course it was...and right then you hear: "it's about you!" Now, it has become clear that the world around you has broken the tacit agreement by openly displaying hostility towards you without cause. One by one strangers curse at you as you make you through the world.
What is a world without trust? What is a world where you are haunted by your fellows? The demons speaking to you assault you and affirm what you've been shown. You're all alone. If you go home, can you trust your family not to kill you? If you stay out on the streets, will you fare any better?
With your confidence in all that you thought you knew, broken, you're left in darkness, endlessly falling. Inside, you're filled with shadows, and they grow and multiply. The house has collapsed, and a structure of madness has been erected in its stead, the foundation of which are shadows, the negatives to the positives of the original foundation. These are doubts, fears, anxieties, confusion, and despair, along with the schizophrenia symptoms, which multiples these negatives constantly.
This is the foundation and structure that one must work to destroy, and then relay the positives of faith, courage, hope, confidence, etc, then rebuild house with love, knowledge, understanding, wisdom, patience, kindness, good works, etc.
So, what we do is take all the pieces of the disintegrated mind and reintegrate them back into one desired mind that is no longer split or separated from reality.
All the pieces of our minds lay hidden within the positives, and so long as we stay within the negatives and allow these to rule we'll never reintegrate our minds and rebuild the foundation or the house/mind we once knew. That mind has now become a memory seemingly so distant we can barely recall it.
There's a lot more to it, but that's the gist of it. There are various ways the foundation of the mind can be eroded, and what I gave is only one example. Also, this erosion of trust can take years before a complete collapse. There's often a weakening before a break.
I'm not good with explaining stuff, so I probably said more than necessary. Hopefully, though, this helps to clarify somewhat.
@@themorningmist99 That was an amazing explanations! You should write a book! I would love to know more, if you are willing! But I will attempt to put together some kind of "Step by Step" process to do what you said.
I almost cried. 😜
I started experiencing auditory hallucinations when I was around 8 or 9, I think. Because the foundation of my family was such that I could not trust my parents, and maybe even my siblings. To be honest, I don't remember much of anything. Then they went away, and started back up again when I was 26.
Anyway! Thank you! Feel free to email me if you want!
Hey, as someone who's very interested and intrigued by these mental illness, I really appreciate your writing, and that there are hopes for these people
@@jsleamer2046it's not just that there is hope. It is US/THEY (the schizophrenic and "crazy") who will lead us into a new future.
We are the cutting edge of history, we are a new kind of human, able to free itself of the terror of the ego and become one with humanity, the planet, the universe.
Not that you have to do something about it but in my opinion it is a gift and gifts want to be used.
I had a psychedelic experience when I was around 15 years old, possibly the worst and simultaneously best experiences of my life, it took me 5 years later to have this positive perception of it, what I experienced was the realisation of god, its like I realised this was a sort of biological matrix reality, its like I saw my whole life, my whole ego as a result of all my experiences, its like I could see my life's code, why I am the way I am, what moments made me into who I was. With that came this realisation as I was staring down at my body while going to the toilet, oh this is just one of many different forms of consciousness that can exist. this was a single point of attention in a universe of many possibilities as David Icke says, I lost my literal sense of self, it was ego separation and dissociation, that's when I realised and really empathised for people who go through major ego deaths as a result of trauma like a death, or losing a relationship like nexus void mentions. I can look back at my experience and realise that the brain is just electrical impulses, psychedelics in this case for me it was cannabis will literally increase the speed at which the electrical impulses travel across neurons and synapsis, but where I took such a huge dosage, it literally (maybe) and figuratively broke my software, I literally had to rebuild who I think that I am again. As I look back I realise it had to happen, through this ego death I learned so much about psychology and neuroscience, like I see human beings as machines with programmes - our programming is just our habits and belief systems. I read a quote that changed my life to this day I always use it, "people don't have ideas, ideas have people".
Yes (prefer own to have… more OG) people don’t own ideas…ideas own people.
Might also add…Ideas don’t own ideas…patterns own ideas…suggestions own patterns…utility owns suggestions…maybe.🥨
This is a fantastic analysis, and summary of the subject! Thank you for taking the time! I will subscribe!
Merry Christmas to all my subscribers and fans! Hope you all have a wonderful holiday season 🎄
This was brilliant! How you explain a very complex condition is simply stunning. I’m so very glad I stumbled upon this video. Thank you.
I have two adult sons with schizophrenia - and this is by far the most useful ( and, actually calming) explanation I have come across. Both are very reluctant to speak about their experiences - but during one conversation where I questioned various names of characters that he mentioned whilst he was in psychosis, we both agreed these characters seemed to represent different archetypes.
Thank you for doing this video. I would certainly be interested in the follow-up video you mentioned. (I would also be interested if you have any info on the paranoid aspect of schizophrenia - which seems to start to manifest prior to a full blown episode).
Wow this was amazing. I had two brothers with schizophrenia that have passed on. It’s so hard to see someone you love is lost and you don’t know how to help. This brings a whole new understanding. Thank you 🙏
Holy crap you just gave me so much useful info for my daily spiritual work.
Great video. Great way of presenting. No BS, straight to the point.
Blessings, my man.
Thanks for watching! Please share it with anyone who may find it helpful
Great!
I experience psychotic symptoms and I know there is more to it than just taking medication
Thanks
You're very welcome!
There was a very strange feature in this case, strange because of its extremely rare occurrence. This man had once been brought to the scaffold in company with several others, and had had the sentence of death by shooting passed upon him for some political crime. Twenty minutes later he had been reprieved and some other punishment substituted; but the interval between the two sentences, twenty minutes, or at least a quarter of an hour, had been passed in the certainty that within a few minutes he must die. I was very anxious to hear him speak of his impressions during that dreadful time, and I several times inquired of him as to what he thought and felt. He remembered everything with the most accurate and extraordinary distinctness, and declared that he would never forget a single iota of the experience. ‘About twenty paces from the scaffold, where he had stood to hear the sentence, were three posts, fixed in the ground, to which to fasten the criminals (of whom there were several). The first three criminals were taken to the posts, dressed in long white tunics, with white caps drawn over their faces, so that they could not see the rifles pointed at them. Then a group of soldiers took their stand opposite to each post. My friend was the eighth on the list, and therefore he would have been among the third lot to go up. A priest went about among them with a cross: and there was about five minutes of time left for him to live. ‘He said that those five minutes seemed to him to be a most interminable period, an enormous wealth of time; he seemed to be living, in these minutes, so many lives that there was no need as yet to think of that last moment, so that he made several arrangements, dividing up the time into portions-one for saying farewell to his companions, two minutes for that; then a couple more for thinking over his own life and career and all about himself; and another minute for a last look around. He remembered having divided his time like this quite well. While saying good- bye to his friends he recollected asking one of them some very usual everyday question, and being much interested in the answer. Then having bade farewell, he embarked upon those two minutes which he had allotted to looking into himself; he knew beforehand what he was going to think about. He wished to put it to himself as quickly and clearly as possible, that here was he, a living, thinking man, and that in three minutes he would be nobody; or if somebody or something, then what and where? He thought he would decide this question once
for all in these last three minutes. A little way off there stood a church, and its gilded spire glittered in the sun. He remembered staring stubbornly at this spire, and at the rays of light sparkling from it. He could not tear his eyes from these rays of light; he got the idea that these rays were his new nature, and that in three minutes he would become one of them, amalgamated somehow with them. ‘The repugnance to what must ensue almost immediately, and the uncertainty, were dreadful, he said; but worst of all was the idea, ‘What should I do if I were not to die now? What if I were to return to life again? What an eternity of days, and all mine! How I should grudge and count up every minute of it, so as to waste not a single instant!’ He said that this thought weighed so upon him and became such a terrible burden upon his brain that he could not bear it, and wished they would shoot him quickly and have done with it.’
@@DiPlanet883 yes :)
Very interesting. I've never heard this sort of stuff explained to me in a way I could understand even though I've had Jung on my shelf for years.
That's what I do, I read books so that others don't have to!
Great video,thanks for all your hard work.
This was amazing, definitely do the video on the patients
Will do!
This makes a lot of sense for me. Last week I needed to go to the hospital because I believed I had Psychosis. I was hallucinating and felt like I was also experiencing the Mandela effect. The hospital ultimately chalked it up to a severe urinary tract infection which can cause mental strain and hallucinations. However I was doing a lot of medication including Kundalini before this happened. Maybe I did temporarily dissolve ego?
The experiences maybe connected. Severe medical ordeals can be physically and psychologically taxing, which can induce ego death, and past ego death experiences and practices (such as Kundalini) can make subsequent ego deaths more intense.
How interesting. One of my son's was deeply involved in Kundalini practices for about 9 months prior to developing schizophrenia.
As usual, you did an amazing job explaining a vast and complicated topic in only 20 minutes. It's like you're speaking from an outline that has perfect order and timing, at least that's how it seems to me. Also, I loved the images. I googled "Zeen Chin" and went down a very interesting rabbit hole for a while this morning. Of course, I have some questions and comments too, which I will try to formulate and express on the discord server. I'm hoping that you do indeed make another video where you present some examples from Jung's patients.
Haha yes, I try to include the artist's name if it's easy to find
As someone who has schizophrenia, i have to say that the Jungian view is dangerous. On youtube you can find a lot of weird videos made by either Jordan Peterson or his supporters. The problem is that their starting point is to say "we are christian conservatives. What can we come up with to defend ourselves and attack our opponents". The starting point
should instead be to deconstruct all paradigms and see what happens. Of all the paradigms that excist, the conservative paradigme is the the easist to deconstruct, because it is clearly based on wishful thinking. Thinking that there is a benevolent god is wishful thinking. Thinking that we have a collective unconscious is wishful thinking. It seems a lot nicer than what Freud wrote. Because if we have a collective unconscious, that means that all the archetypes that we see
in different cultures are all essential to human life. So you have to be conservative and religious, otherwise you are according to Jung neurotic. Thats insane. But its even more insane to say that i as schizophrenic is not really insane, because i was just dreaming during the day and since it all comes from the collective subconscious then it makes sense. As someone who has actually been psychotic it just doesnt make any sense. Because the dreams i have at night are nothing
like what i experienced in my psychosis. And the voices doesnt seem like archetypes to me. They sound like people i know. A combination of my parents and all the people who have bullied me for being too weird.
So freuds theories makes more sense. Even though i think the voices comes from the superego. At the same you are not in contact with your body. Which is the same as not being in contact with the id. That can change at anytime though and that may change the diagnosis. At the same time the ego is weak, so therefore talking therapy doesnt work. You have to take the medicine and then you can work with your thoughts and maybe change the superego. Im not a pharaoh who can speak to the gods and get great ideas like "lets get a lot a slaves to build giants pyramids, so that i may have a great life in the afterworld". Im just a guy who used to be psychotic. Thats
@@MM-uc4kc You don't have to be a Christian conservative at all to believe these theories. They have nothing to do with Christianity or conservatism.
Absolutely brilliant video!! Useful for everyone
Glad you think so!
You have a phenomenal grasp of this subject.
This is spot on… it made me much more confident about my self. ❤ thank you 🙏 it makes total sense how the death of ego awakens the self. Bicameral mind is a new concept to me.
Pls make the continuation is this topic, its very helpful
Excellent summary, thank-you!
Excellent presentation!
I always wait for your video.please upload more videos.and don't demotivated because of your few subscriber.for me you are very important.please please continue.......
This video makes so much sense a great video
Amazing video! Thank you!
I remember 'snapping out of it' at one point, and suddenly seeing the 'actual' room I was in around me and thinking 'hoooolllly fuck I am tripping sooooo hard'. I had totally forgotten I was just in my bedroom, but instead thought I was basically taking a tour of this consciousness factory.
I quickly fell back into Salvialand and this is when Carl Jung took a shit on the floor. 💩😂
very informative. thank you
Any plans to make future videos on this? Thanks!
i would love to hear more about jungs patients!
I agree with - “thoughts are having you”,,, though I’m not sure how I would word it differently… However I understand your explanation.
Very insightful
I agree with the definition of the “Complexes” source, and actions of the separation between the conscious n subconscious… that said I think I now understand while I could stop myself from letting my “ego” control me, I now see I had a very limited ability, mostly disability to control my “complexes.”
That said, I am tempted to find a different word to explain both “complexes” and “ego.”
Hey, I have watched several of your videos and I really like the stuff that you put out. However I feel I must point out that dreams are not random! Edward F Edinger wrote anatomy of the psyche alchemical symbolism in psychotherapy. He was a cohort of Carl Jung and demonstrated that the psychic contents of the mind can be gathered up into seven basic archetypes. After reading this book you can take these archetypes and apply them to any dream and get a very clear picture of what the psyche is trying to say. I too went through a break with reality after having lost my friend while crossing a bridge one night. Shortly thereafter I began hearing and seeing things that I knew only I was seeing. If you have never read this book or have never heard of it I strongly recommend you give it a good read it's an amazing book, one that definitely changed my life for the better.
How do I connect this explanation with patients who only have the negative symptoms of schizoogrenia where in the auditory and visual hallucinations are absent??
Which book are the quotes from? Great video.
Carl Jung's Collected Works Volume 3: The Psychogenesis of Mental Disease
What is the painting on the cover of the video?
It's called "Stretch Painting" by William Macdonald
The painting on the right is genius. The angle of the glasses wrt the eyes shows that the head orientation is not the same as in the left image. The shape of the chin/jaw are completely different. The mustache seems a bit large, but it fits if you see the face as being another person entirely, someone who doesn’t have a mustache.
Thus there is gestalt in the composition, subtly implying a “split identity” but because we are shown the photos side by side, the denotative identity is the one that remains salient. This is in contrast to the extreme use of high contrast color in the expressionist style … which if you think about the order in which the brush strokes are laid down isn’t actually a mess at all. Thus the accentuation of style resonates with the theme and composition.
Also there is radiant effect in the contrast of colors coming from the upper right. If the rest of the painting were inaccurate, then it’s likely this lighting/color effect wouldn’t show the way it does.
Please do make that video. Thanks
Will do
Good stuff! New subscriber here.
Awesome, thank you!
Fascinating 💯👌
Excellent
So does it boil down to contest between the ego and the unconscious for which has the most influence and powerful sense of entitlement?
Which begs the question…entitled to what? Dominant over what?
“Being unconscious to the unconscious is the definition of insanity” it really beats the Einstein quote.
Also, the process of splitting off the person’s ego is not necessarily something happening “in the individual’s psyche.” A person’s identity is mediated by a dialectical process where one’s sense of self needs to be balanced by interpreting others’ perceptions of one’s self/identity.
This dialectic can become stagnant or disrupted, especially when the person is not capable of receiving/eliciting information about themselves or their social environment.
Catalysts for disrupting a healthy process of integration: rejection, false memories, gaslighting, defamation, protracted trauma, recalcitrant neuroses, depersonalization, alienation, avoidance, maladaptive schemas, poverty, learned helplessness, pathological lying, etc.
Simply calling the response to these things “symptoms” or labeling the person with a “disease” is pretty terrible. No offense to you: your discussion is accurate and insightful. I just think it’s ridiculous for people to conceive of these labels as corresponding to some biological/chemical process in someone’s head. It’s not clear how often the above factors are more so responsible for processing the person into refractory psychological regression, but I don’t think the medical establishment attributes much causation to the types of lived experiences people who are labeled. Whether someone could recover from the damage is another question. But unintentionally explaining away terrible shit through material reductionism is not going to improve the accumulated karmic debt.
Society can easily treat people like garbage and throw them away when information about their abuse is inconvenient. The misunderstood causes of many kinds of “mental illness” are hardly the only factors that will lead to a pandemic of psychological issues:
social media supplants real relationships leaving people with fragile support networks. Some of us are cursed with a permanent digital identity that strongly outweighs any control we have over our own lives.
the American media gaslights and lies 24/7, crippling freedom of association and cultivating fear/paranoia.
tech algorithms have better insight into what’s left of our fragile egos than we do. This strongly biases the range of things people experience and inhibits introspection. This disrupts people’s ability to learn how to adapt, since there are few qualitative/quantitative features you can track as causative/associated with success/failure. The chain of cause/effect from data influencing the real world is completely invisible to people, but it’s increasingly dominant/determinative.
I could go on… but it’s not a good look to be pessimistic. if the economy collapses then we will see the bottom fall out of our culture, psychologically and sociologically.
The ego is thrown more into persona or public figure to define one's identity more than the self. We are one sided. Causing to become self conscious more concerned with appearances.
I had to fight the urge to listen too, n respond too, or answer my subconscious hallucinations,,, very easy to give in to your ulterior will while the majority refuse to acknowledge your reality like Jung described it, what I would suggest I was n still am desperate for is to be talked too like I have Alzheimer’s, or otherwise how we’re taught to meet a medical patient where they are…
In Alzheimer’s someone typically lives in an alternate time frame, however someone in psychosis typically lives in an alternate reality.
I think the examples of jello and donuts is an exaggeration. Most delusions are subtle and often difficult to distinguish especially for those who are paranoid and do not have any hallucinations. Such people are rarely talked about
Peace prize recipient Dr.Daniel Kahneman talks about certain words do trigger our subconscious…
So what if u have voices telling u to do bad things does that mean that's who u really are in the unconscious?
In a sense yes, but we always have to keep in mind that the unconscious psyche has existed for a longer time than consciousness, so it may have drives that are considered wrong or immoral in the modern world.
Can you explain where humor fits into all this being someone who has traveled extensively in both realms of the neurotic (the personal) and the schizophrenic (the impersonal) but loves nothing as much making people laugh or getting off a good zinger (neurotic voice says oh you just have an insecure need for attention, acceptance and validation but fuck it…number one thing about the neurotic zone is it has no sense of humor…all crushing wet blanket…where as the entities from the schizophrenic zone I don’t know if you could call it humor but definitely a bizarre twisted set of insinuations and buckets of sarcastic paints and tars that they want to decorate your life with…Throw out the owner and just start renovating the home…which may have been perfectly fine…if the owner manages to peek into the window is astonished at seeing what they are doing….The Marx Brothers at their best are the unconscious unleashed on the everyday ego in dominance world….To the consensus rational utilitarian realm the unconscious is for ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY good for a few laughs but to be pitied if falls outside of mere entertainment.
Why would the unconscious torment the ego though? My voices try to convince me I'm a terrible person that deserves to suffer. They first tried to convince me someone was coming to kill me. Then switched to harassing me.
There could be a lot of reasons for that. Your voices might have learned to be admonishing because you had people in your life that verbally abused you, and the voices began to imitate them. But it depends on your particular circumstances.
Damn, thisthis video is so damn intelectually stimulating
Gute Analyse
What ordinary humans consider to be "hallucinations" not really hallucinations (since everything is a hallucination), they are just God's imagination - Infinite Imagination - at work in non-ordinary states of consciousness.
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Thanks, my girlfriend go it for me!
The creative process is healing. When I draw or write music, all problems go away. Try it, who cares👁
Now I understand why he said that the Ego is a true gift of God
Ive been wondering for a long time why different people had similar delusions.
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dankeschön!
I’m struggling to recover from schizophrenia due to lack of support… Sorry to say chemicals n hormones do Not cause schizophrenia… psyche is an over-simplistic way of explaining the many aspects when considering the many considerations that attribute to a lower mental level or capacity, and the many aspects that lead to a weakness of the will.
Two Jake's old Jake Young Jake wise....let's say Jake asks Jake how many times can you say....yes that's right Jake.
That's all I got to say about that.
F.G.
If the Mesopotamians could utilize their Schizophrenia to becomes kings, why can't modern day Schizophrenics do the same?
The founder of Islam (Muhammed) was almost certainly schizophrenic, and because of it he became the leader of the religion. Joan of Arc was also probably schizophrenic, and people believed she was a savior because she could speak to god.
@@nexusvoid314 Thanks for the reply! Maybe one day we'll all be able to harness our complexes and use them to help lead us rather than random complexes taking over. 👍
I am a woman… if ego can’t rationalize that… then am I schizophrenic????
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One of the voices is forever complaining about how the majority of people who have stable highly functioning egos and show no signs of consciously being familiar with unconscious and are highly stable and pleasant for the most part as being…and to the entity the greatest insult…boring.
Read slower
bruv aint gonna lie you look some sick/tired.
Warum fickst du mein Vater?
Incredibly annoying with the pauses between the sentences cut away. I just cannot listen.
I have to use jump cuts because I'm reading from my notes and I read what to say before I say it.
Meh, I didn't even notice until you mentioned it