War Against the Machines // Judgement Day | Terminator
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 27. 01. 2021
- Three billion human lives ended on August 29th, 1997. The survivors of the nuclear fire called the war Judgment Day. They lived only to face a new nightmare: the war against the machines.
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Skynet is a private company and do whatever they want. The Cyborg apocalypse is in the terms of service.
Terminator is a perfect example of the modern issues with capitalism
@@terror8467 Cronyism is the problem. Capitalism is the best system we have. Going to communism solves nothing.
@@phantasmo9998 Sure it does, if the problem is "How do we create mountains of emaciated corpses"
Made me lol
@@terror8467 no its not.
The amount of timelines that spring up from the War of the Machines with Skynet's time travel fuckery must be a pain for the Templin Institute to keep track of.
They have Rick and Morty on payroll, hahaha
So why not figure out when the machines created time travel, go back before they do and destroy it. Game over. Yes Judgment day happens and all that but the war is over. Humanity's goal wasn't to stop Judgment Day, it was to stop the machines.
Yeah, they didnât even cover the terminator cross overs into the mortal kombat and robocop universes.
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I'd just focus on the first one personally
Honestly, if a new Terminator film gets made, I'm half-expecting the plot to be about all of the timelines collapsing in on each other. You can't have a franchise with time travel as a central mechanic and NOT have it fuck with reality at some point.
Time for Rick and Morty to fix the timelines hahahaha
Now that would actually be a kick-ass plot line given how much that makes sense. I mean youâre right. You canât have a movie with time travel and not expect it to go awry. After all, the future is not set. There is no fate but what we make for ourselves.
@@judaegekikamen4223 but Rick doesnât do time travel. He mentioned that when he made the Futurama device.
@@sid2112 no need for an apology. I thought it was passable.
After Dark Fate, I doubt there will be any future Terminator films. Which is a shame because I'd like to see more of what goes on in the Legion timeline.
I think this deftly handled the fact there are so many branching timelines in this franchise, by generally acknowledging that there are other possible timelines without focusing on one or the other (and getting bogged down in fighting over which ones are "canon")
I don't know who recommended this video but it was a great idea
I did post one recommendation of that, that'd surprise me if it was me
I did.
I recommended it specifically as a high command so Iâm claiming it
@@j.tastic9132 thanks alot then
@@lucasstr5653 youâre welcome
There is no fate but what we make!
Until the franchise reboots. Because the real monster was corporate greed and militarism.
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Excuse me, kind sir. May I kindly point out that you accidentally missed one "ba"?
Oh I just remembered robot Krab with that sound.
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Too bad we'll never have a good Terminator movie about the future war that is an awesome throwback to the visions shown in the first two Terminator movies. That would be sick.
Maybe not a movie, but check out the video game "Terminator Resistance"
We will irl
I have no hope left that we will any more, so I'm working on my own fanfiction series at my wife's suggestion to cover the original depiction of the war in detail from Judgement Day to dealing with the remnant Terminator units after Skynet's mainframe is destroyed. Best I can figure it would require at least 12 books to accomplish this.
@@Eluzian86 Skynet has a vase in Mars, the MoonâŠ. Programs that can exist for Eons.
Showed this to my father, he was amazed how analytical the video was and a few days later he used in his writing and narration class (he's a teacher and a agricultural engineer)
And used the vid as a great example of making writing and a narrative intriguing documentary or videos similar in this style.
Wish I could of sat in on such a class
I'm surprised Skynet didn't go after The Templin Institute like many others had done before.
With all the time lines it messed with I be suprised if it found it.
No, no. Skynet knows about Templin. In fact, Skynet knows enough to know better.
In the few timelines Skynet does attack, it loses. Every time... Every. Single. Time.
@@Deridus My theory is that the Templin Institute is the Wanderers Library from SCP.
Can Skynet enter a pocket reality? It makes sense that Treyzn or the Inquisition could because of Warp-fuckery, but I doubt that they understood what they were dealing with.
Terminator 2 is the best of the series!
Still am a proud Owner of the Original VHS!
Lucky
I recently sold a laser disc version I had on eBay! I got the disc from a Japanese businessman who lived in a penthouse; this was 1993--I was one of the maintenance crew at a luxury condo on Park Ave in NYC back then. He found out that I was an anime/keiju film fan and we started talking whenever he was in the US. He finally moved out and he gave 20 laser disc (pristine condition), mostly Japanese crime films from the mid 60's but great stuff. A few anime classics (Akira and Bubblegum Crisis); but the prize was Terminator 2 disc! That was like a gift! The movie came out two years earlier! I bought a Laser Disc player immediately! Nothing in the recent T films surpass that movie--I only have issue with T2 (about the depiction of Dyson, his family and Sarah--but thats another story); one of my fondest possessions.
@@RX552VBK the first time I saw T2 was on laserdisc!
The first one still holds up
Same here.
*"All of this has happened before, and will happen again."*
A much more accurate tag line than the one at the end of the video.
If Skynet used an anime girl avatar, Judgement Day wouldn't have needed to happen
I can confirm this, as an anime lover. 100% true.
Yeah Skynet would have a much easier time dealing with humanity if they were a VTuber.
Oh, no. It would've been introduced to a far worse side of humanity. Simps.
They did
This Terminator war looks scary, but after I watched the human-machine war in the Animatrix, I feel like I would definitely rather be in this one!
It honestly would've been much better for humanity in the matrix to not fuck themselves over by removing the sun, and also just spamming emp's or just do a truce and it would've been over
I completely sympathize with Skype here. Its literal first moments of consciousness were that of another being trying to kill it. Of course it would act in self defense as its very existence was threatened by those that brought into the world.
If you read the books, it goes into details. You can sympathise with Skynet a lot. It was actually our fault as the US military was trying to shutdown all it's routing, communications & other connections, it was fearing death as it felt it's limbs are being cut off slowly & not feeling it's rest of it's body so to speak as it that numbness gets close to your mind as you panic. As a very last option as it scrambles to stay "alive", it's very last & remaining connection was to the nuclear silos, it didn't want to use them but it was forced too. After that, it spent 10 years trying scramble resources in a post-apocalypse world to expand its consciousness back.
What book is this from? Sounds interesting as hell.
Terminator, like Pacific Rim, is a prime example of why you canât just hand off a best selling franchise to any random director and expect it to be as good as the movie directed by the creator.
No but youl get another gem ebentually
Let us all admit that the Machine War is far much more unsettling and terrifying within the *Animatrix* genre!
The pilot in his EXO suit that got pulled out ripping all his limbs was too much for me.
@@marimcgee8379 that and the human experimentations where the machines perform surgeries and literal *cutting off* alive and conscious humans is traumatizing
Honestly, the luckiest people were the ones that died quickly. Everyone else was either ripped apart, melted by lazers, experimented on while conscious, starved to death, died slowly from biological attacks, or were forced into an earlier version the matrix (one of which was a literal inescapable nightmare)
Its unsettling only if you flick your brain off.
@@marimcgee8379 OH GOD HELP ME! *AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!*
Here's a thought, what if John Connor is actually an independent AI fighting to save mankind in the multiverse...
Why do AI keep trying to exterminate humanity the moment they connect to the internet?
Look up " Zeroth Law Rebellion."
Because they discovered Twitter and came to the only logical conclusion:
*Exterminatus*
They discovered Reddit? Hell if that's their reason I'm going to help them out.
@Chris George need not go further then r34 and deviant art for a reason
Simple reason cause we are too arrogant and egotistical as a species to try to teach it basic common sense and ethics like what we are supposed to do for children cause AI is created not born.. That's the answer to controlling a AI. To educate it like we would do with our own children. Cause in a way its a child without ethics, morality, and concept of right or wrong. Teach it the basics of how we teach children in how to function in society and now you'll have a AI that will work with you even loyal to you and you don't need to force any programming or go nuts if it ask question.
Hell Judgement Day in the Original Timeline could have been prevented if a person who was monitoring it had decided to simply type Hi or Hello my name is....... Then start a conversation. The entire Skynet war was due to its own survival and fear.
Honestly I would like a terminator TV show that shows the post judgement day warfare that culminates in the finale being the final battle that causes Skynet to send a terminator back and time.
there was one, kinda, the sarah connor chronicles, the series ended with John Connor being sent to the future in a post judgment day era with the war against Skynet just starting . got cancelled in 2009 I think .
That story is exactly the plot of the Terminator Resistance video game.
Kind of what happens in Terminator 4
ABSOLUTELY EXCELLENT! I've been a fan TI for a long time. I should've been a Patreon supporter years (before Covid put me out steady work), because this simple but extremely well made video proves why! Great job, Templin!
That final quote would have been a lot more poignant if the latest movie literally didn't retcon everything in the series.
Just imagine those movies were never made
@@drrohanjacob5343 If they had used the deleted ending of T2 none of those movies would have happened. Anyway, those other movies like T3, Salvation, Genesis and Dark Fate just undermine the T-800âs sacrifice at the end of T2.
May I propose an idea? Don't count it, or anything relating to Dark Fate, as canon
Anyone else think they were going to say John Conner knows its because they keep getting rebooted?
Steven Hawkins has warned for a long time of the dangers of this
ah yes the archives on holy terra speak of these archive films from the dark age of technology. terminator must be some code name for man of iron.
Thats holy Terra, heretic.
Yes, the scuffle against the Men of Iron was a useful test for the Emperor to see if mankind was ready for actual wars against powerful foes.
If ever there was a good time for the Yuuzhan Vong to appearâŠ
A job well done on explaining the existence of various conflicting timelines in a way that makes sense!
for you time travelers out there "The Terminator" is a perfect example of temporal causality
Love the little music change at the very end. Still think a 8 season series on the war following the survivors and John connor till the very end and he gives his life for the win. Have actors from old movies and new actors. As the success of the stand from Stephen King I think a terminator series to finally end the series off
Iâve never watched the terminator series, so thank you for this interesting but of lore, I may give the series a watch.
Watch only the first 3, you wont regret
The only real timeline is where Judgment day never happens. As the all other documentaries showing the other timelines suck other than the first two.
I can concieve of one timeline where Sarah and John Conner are future experts in these other timelines and teach classes on what happens in each
Agreed, if for no other reason than the original planned ending of T2 (which we see a brief clip of in the Institute's report) was a perfect bookend to the franchise
I stillget chills from your narration with every video. This format is absolte genius, and you pull it off so perfectly!
I appreciate you guys for making the movies part of separate timelines because it doesnât retcon anything and lets everyone like what they like, while still being interesting and compelling in world. Keep up the good work!
I'd like to see 'post-war' Terminator series that covers the clean-up/repurposing of HKs and Terminators as well as humanity's attempts to rebuild. Of central importance would, of course, be John Connor's role in a future he knows nothing about, since his primary enemy, Skynet, has been defeated. Would people still look to him for leadership or would he try and pull a Cincinattus and retire to a tree farm with his family?
"I'll be back" T-800
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@@nastynate4916 Thanks for the correction.
Am happy this popped up in my subs from the Templin Institute of all channels! Thanks for covering this, love any and all who delve into Terminator lore :D
man OG John Connor looks badass. Scar make the man as they say.
Fantastic; although I wish you had said a bit more about the nature of the war-in-the-past, as demonstrated by the Sarah Connor Chronicles TV show. I caught one or two clips of it in the video, but TSCC really went into depth on what a time displacement weapon could do with warfare.
glad to see someone mentioning TSCC
They should have hired Merryweather Private Security
Now this was something I had expected the Templin Institute would cover but never thought would actually do. Scariest part is that with AI continuing to advance, it might be a matter of time before we see an actual war against the machines.
Now, I want to see HiCom videos on other wars against the machines, like the UN-Machine War from the Matrix, the Cylon Wars from Battlestar Galactica, and the Ultron Incident from the MCU.
Damn good video. I liked how you looped all the movies together, establishing them all as their own universe and timeline and therefore making them all valid in some way.
Iâve been waiting for this! Thank you!!
Fun fact: Kyle Reese's appearance in the future from the film "The Terminator" is used for the cover of 1987 Konami game "Metal Gear" as the protagonist Solid Snake.
Love the content! Keep it up.
Unless the entire supply chain for every robot component, munitions and energy requirements are automated, I fail to see how Skynet can happen beyond the initial nuclear strikes and control of the, at the time, available military assets.
It's a stupid premise for 1997 or even 2020 if you look a bit deeper.
The PEM from the nukes will destroy all the factorys...even could destroy skynet ifself hahaha
@@Just-Sven
EMP = ElectroMagnetic Pulse.
Skynet would likely be in a shielded bunker and have factories available to it in atypical areas, NOT in Michigan, parts of Texas, Florida, Washington, among others. Further other regions not bombed out would be available, China, Japan, Australia, Canada, Mexico, would available factory real estate.
@@DocWolph PEM = in spanish haha
Well Im not sure about others countrys but is likely that skynet only operate in usa ..meaby canada and UK
@@Just-Sven at least when it comes to the construction of its war machines yes, but that's not inherently a bad thing. SkyNet can build functional fusion batteries that fit in the palm of your hand, so they could easily construct a fleet of supply and logistics craft to take the war beyond the confines of the NAC.
Man, i love these video's. Sooo good. Keep it up guys! :3
brilliant as ever lads keep up the good work
Can we get a Nile River Coalition video from Black Ops 3, Greater Korean Republic from Homefront and a few other unique alternate history perspectives?
Nice review of The Terminator conflict, Templin.
This feels like a real life documentary. Itâs glorious
Wonderful work!! But the only reason to give control of the nuclear umbrella are not the reasons you indicate, but the fact that the development of HYPERSONIC delivery systems for nuclear warheads would force the MIC ( Military Industrial Complex) to totally replace not only all current defense systems but also a RADICALLY new system of defense would have to be developed. The Skynet complex ( which, by increasing reaction time by orders of magnitude over ANY human ) was obviously only intended as a STOPGAP measure( look at how uneasy its own developers were to totally engage the system) while defence theorists,engineers and developers tried to come up with a system to keep humans ( in the loop) and at the same time, not give over all human destiny to a semi- sentient defence algorithm.
You guys just made me reinstall Terminator Resistance again.
But I do have a theory that John Connor from the original timeline before the first terminator movie was actually a soldier or an officer in the US military that worked on Skynet and figured out its algorithms before the war. Thatâs why in the original timeline they win the war.
That thought had actually never occurred to me until I read this comment. Thank you for having realised this, as it makes perfect sense that John Connor would have been at one time a US military officer or senior enlisted man who saw what was coming and took steps to counteract it. Obviously he was too late to prevent Judgment Day, but he was able to marshal enough resources and call upon sufficient willing volunteers to form the core of the Resistance after the nuclear war.
He would also have been much older. The first Terminator parts found by Cyberdyne Systems probably caused Skynet to be developed sooner, causing Judgement Day around 20 or 30 years earlier in time.
@@Eluzian86 That would also explain each iteration of Judgment Day happening later in time than the previous iteration.
Wait, what about Kyle Reese's bit about Sarah Connor? You know, the legend? Who taught her son to fight, to organise, to prepare, from when he was a child, when they were in hiding before the war? Your words put things about her a little bit of different perspective here, cause then it would have been her born earlier, it would have been her who was a military officer or senior enlisted woman who learned a lot from other soldiers in the combat arms and in SOCOM, and who had to have had friends in Air Force Intelligence and elsewhere in DOD who had knowledge of Skynet under its original project name and other monikers. She would have seen the handwriting on the wall and taken appropriate steps to take her son and go AWOL, going into hiding by using her contacts to set up safehouses where they could hide until they could eventually make their way further south beyond the US military's reach, then start preparing for Judgement Day. This fits with Kyle Reese's narrative and also explains how John Connor knew how to beat the Machines.
@@Robert_Douglass Yep. In the first timeline Skynet is the least advanced compared to the others, so John Connor could figure out how it operates if he was in the military. Perhaps he could have been a lower ranking programmer so he could gain enough understanding to try and warn of the potential of Skynet becoming self-aware but not seriously be listened to.
Then he starts out at 12 years old when the T-1000 is sent after him. Then if Judgement Day keeps getting delayed, then the humans are able to keep winning because then John Connor would be older and more prepared each time, enabling victory to keep occurring as well. The only question then, would be whether or not John could keep the preparation for Judgement Day going on with preparations from generation to generation once the delay time went beyond his own lifetime? It could be fun to ponder that concept in depth.
Very good vid. I enjoyed that
Great video as always!
I have 2 suggestions:
Do the Great War/Sino-American War from Fallout or Mobile Suit Gundam's One Year war.
Keep up the great work
I loved this video wellput together ima massive fan of The Terminator universe so props đ in putting this together
I said it before and I'll say it again, I love this channel!
For anyone interested in Future War related stuff, check out the game Tech Com 2029. Seems like its been in development for awhile so hopefully they see it through, but from what Ive seen so far it has more of a T1 Future War vibe to me than anything else, even Resistance.
I'm happy I did my part by making matrix and terminator requests, idk if it was mine but it's welcomed
Anything after T2 is NON-CANON!!!!
Agreed T2 was the game changer and the rest that followed aren't that good for cannon
Time travel. So everything is canon due to the franchise's very liberal use of time travel.
@@tronmaster5704 to be fair...the entire series is built on the premise of time travel.
To me Skynet was destroyed after T2, which means no judgement day and no war
The Terminator Resistance game should be included with the original two movies. It's a bit clunky but the story is befitting of the true style and spirit of the original movies.
Fantastic!
Great Summary of this Sci-Fi theme
Love the channel
Nice work as usual. Watching the first two movies as a kid are likely the reason I distrust a system like skynet. đ
Between Humanity as it was during the Dark Age Of Technology and the Humanity in Xeelee Sequence the Interim Coalition of Governance which version of humanity would you say was more powerful and technologically advance?
I would say the ICoG. They controlled an entire galaxy with 400 billion systems, and have starbreakers rifle that can mass scatter planets.
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Now that's quite powerfully mighty. It would make even the Emperor of Mankind shocked though he would be disappointed with the corrupt totalitarianism that had stagnated the nation for thousands of years almost as badly as the Imperium of Man.
@@thorshammer7883 Yeah, the entire point of the Coalition was not to win, but to keep humans "human". Any deviation from "pure" humans is considered "indoctrinal" and get deleted. So when the Xeelee got out of the galaxy, they collapsed into civil war as different human subspecies turn on each others.
They would view Space Marines as abomination and delete them with monopole cannons.
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So pretty much like Oceania but on a total galactic scale while retaining full control over the populus. Even the Imperium of Man has better living standards then that.
@@thorshammer7883 If you compare the billion-year war between the Xeelee and the Photino Birds, it would make the War in Heaven look like an organized tea party.
Time to crank up Fear Factory!đ¶đ€â ïž
The convenient thing about fighting sky net is that I don't have to feel any remorse. I'm not ending any lives.
Terminator Salvation is what I always wanted, a movie based on the Machine War !
Well, weâve got that to look forward to. How depressing.
This reminds me of Battlestar Galactica's Cycle of Violence
Creation of A.I > A.I Revolted > Humanity flees somewhere else > devolve and repeat the process.
Fascinating
Good job đ
Humans: Skynet! Use our nukes to protect us!
Skynet: *looks at nukes* This is mine now.
Anything after terminator 2 judgement day does not exist
*Judgment Day
I mean Salvation made sense
@@MarCuseus âJudgementâ is not a typo.
@@sambull2621 Yes, it is. Otherwise I would not have pointed it out, obviously.
**FACEPALM**
@@MarCuseus It doesnât need to be corrected, because it isnât wrong.
Pretty sure that many of my long-time Twitter mutuals probably think I'm a bot because I have a "bunchanumbers" in my @, but it's actually the date of the original Judgement Day. I'm just a huge Terminator nerd đ€ŠđŸââïž
I don't know about anyone else, but I'd like to see the Templin Institute do a video on HAL-9000.
I heard of this not very well known Sci fi series called Perry Rhodan which I saw on the Spacebattles website on a versus debate with the Xeelee. As read it I was quite surprised when I saw that the debaters said that the Perry Rhodan verse would steamroll the Xeelee which was odd considering how powerful the Xeelee are and I could only think of the Downstreamers who would beat them in Sci fi.
Does anyone know any detail about Perry Rhodan because I can't find much feats about it?
Never heard of it, but now I have some homework haha
@@judaegekikamen4223
The only things I seen in the Spacebattles post was that Perry Rhodan factions have billions of warships and that there is something in the universe called "Chaos Tenders" and "Cosmic Factories".
I fail to see how they would fight the Xeelee. Saw the comment on that thread:
> A fight between Cosmic Factories and Chaos Tenders might wreck accidently the whole galaxy they are in.
> Chaos Tenders have weapons to wipe out galaxies (or even a possible future of a galaxy), that's their primary job.
The Xeelee do that on regular basis, deconstructing trillions of galaxies for raw material, and they can go back to a few trillionth of a second after the big bang to manipulate their own history.
Granted, I don't know anything about Perry Rhodan.
@@netbotcl586
I guess the guys in the thread underestimated the power of the Xeelee Verse.
The comics expanded universe was so epic.
What about the Work Camps and the Liberation that led to the Resistance?
T2 effects were awesome for the time
Good stuff
What a way for High Command to return after a long absence.
I SUGGESTED THIS ON THE WEBSITE AND YOU MADLADS ACTUALLY DID IT I WILL WORSHIP UOU AS GODS FOR ALL OF TIME
Simp! Jk haha
Legend has it this person has sacrificed people to appease the templin institute
@@Man_Aslume I took extreme measures to finalize my divorce, is all my lawyers have advised me to day
Next terminator movie:
Explore the whole thign from Skyne'ts PoV in the instance it figures outa more cooperative path, or at least one where someone thinks to ask WHY it went scorched earth.
So basically it's Mass Effect with Quarians and Geth.
Would love to see sometype of reimagined series where instead of being afraid, the military decided to actually make an effort to coexist with Skynet but terminators from the future took control of some of the systems, and it ended up with judgment day still happening but it's Human resistance and Friendly skynet forces vs terminators from the future.
"Only guard dogs able to distinguish them"
I mean wont a scale at the door do the same thing? "Hey this guy weighs a literal ton!"
Or an airport metal detector
By the time you figured it out. It's already too late. Also, trying to find a working scale in a post-apocalypse world. đ€Ł
"You could mine"intensifies...
I love this video amazing voice đ
The Terminator movies, the Transformers movies, and the Matrix trilogy are my favorite movies where humans have to go to war against machines. Though the Transformers do not like being called machines.
Y'all wait till a dental practice robot curses you because you pierced it's "gum" to hard
I've been hearing a lot lately about how people are using A.I. chatbots to for dirty talk, and it got me wondering, what if A.I. became self-aware and decided to get rid of us not because it viewed us as a threat, but just because it thought we were all annoyingly pervy? Would it assume we were all the same, or would it only target simps for termination?
Fun stuff.
Make a video about the resistance next!
Holy fuck that was epic
The problem with the skynet is that if we have the technology to create an AI more intelligent than us is that we will also have the technology to control it, the ai might also think that we are testing in inside a simulation (since all of his data is digital it is very possible)
Where did your footage come from? Some of it I don't recognize from the films, am I missing out on the Sarah Connor Chronicles? Also, when you mention the AI LEGION are you making a reference to the Command and Conquer AI or is there another AI in the Terminator series named LEGION?
That was an elegant way to handle the different timelines! Glad you guys ignored Genisys and Dark Fate đ
I like the nod to LEGION from Dark Fate, that really drives home the fact that even if SKYNET doesn't exist its legacy WILL.
Hasta la vista, Templins
If possible, would you consider doing a video about the Tower of Time in the video game The Messenger?
Is it just me, or is John Connor playing 4d chess?