Thank you for demonstrating this! The only way the ATEM soundinputs work acceptable is when you put them to line, which gives you a consumer type -10 dB stereo input. Feed that with the right signal and you're okay.
We simply connect our external sound board to the ATEM input - after using the Atem config program to change from mic level to line level. It’s simply the much better way to go. An external mixer offers much better control over each channel and you are limited only by the number of channels in the mixer. Plus there is no need for special cables - which is helpful if you get into a bind and need to find a spare cable.
Oh, absolutely. I am 100% in agreement with you on that. I always use some external mixing device for live streams. Currently with one of my side gigs we are using the Allen & Heath DLive console. This video was merely a proof of concept, and to show that it can be done if needed. Thanks Scott!
The ATEM is not intended to drive dynamic mics like the Shures you are using because these mics have a very low output. The ability to split the two mic inputs is useful if you use lav mics since BOTH the tip and ring will deliver power to the lav mics (about 3v) and they will supply enough output to satisfy the ATEM pre amps. So you could have 4 lav mics running from the ATEM audio sockets. If you have cameras with mic inputs you could split those in the same way - potentially giving you 12 audio inputs ! Obviously an external mixer is preferable for ease of control but generally* audio mixers don't provide the 3-5v required by lav mics (you would need more expensive mics with phantom power adapters to drop the 48v phantom power to around 5v for that). But mixers are ideal to drive professional 48v condenser mics and will often have enough gain to deal with dynamic mics (at least 65db). But external mixers can also produce hiss if they have cheap pre amps or if you have to apply most of their quoted gain to a dynamic mic. Some ENG mixers like the SoundDevices MixPre's do have a splittable 3.5mm 3v mic input as well as XLRs and good clean gain for dynamics but they are a bit expensive.
That makes complete sense! I guess what I was targeting is people who want to stream their podcast and didn’t have an external mixer. I’ll have to test it with multiple lavs to see how it works.
Both Deity and Rode make a XLR to 3.5 mm adapter that takes 48v and drops it to 3v for lav mics. So that gives you another option for a crazy audio chain. I would use it with a mixer or Rodecaster Pro. 😁
A headphone out and headphone volume would have been a nice addition to this ATEM Mini. But not a deal breaker. Using an HDMI audio extractor on the ATEM HDMI output. The 1/8 stereo mini inputs also a weak link but it's a small footprint so there isn't room for individual say 1/4" inputs. I was surprised bringing externally processed audio sounded as good as it does. So the audio inputs are usable.
Would I be able to use the unbalanced 1/4" Jack outputs from a dual wireless mic receiver into the Atem Mini Pro 1/8" mic inputs? If so, will there be any difference in using a stereo cable vs a mono cable (1/4" to 1/8" jack)?
@@RyanKnowsNothing I have 4 BMPC 4k cameras with 20 inch teleprompters that I built myself. The "studio desk" and control station has 3 computers, the ATEM Extreme for the cameras and computers, the ATEM mini to control what goes into the prompters and the audio mixer. It's a bit overwhelming to be the talent, director and producer all at once. :D
Ryan, you did it again. Awesome video!! Nicely done. I cant wait to see you incorporate a mixer for a more professional sound. I am still thinking about getting the Allen & Heat Zed10 FX along with the ART clean box pro. Your thoughts! Thanks Bud.
Your video shows some interesting workarounds, but makes me doubt that we can get professional quality audio streaming through any model of the Atem Mini. Main concern is live streaming (while recoding) live classical chamber music concerts is to be able to continue to use our Blumlein-paired Neuman KN184 mics, preamped through our Sound Design 232 while switching and possibly PIPing between two, (rarely 3) fixed and a mobile camera, rather than any camera, or the Mini's preamp. The lack of XLR, BNC or even standard phono inputs is concerning, but we really can't justify spending yet more on equipment which obsoletes quickly, and may become unnecessary in the near(?) future. Operation also has to be as simple as possible to minimize disruption to musicians and audience from the front-row position the historic and acoustically very live necessitates. The ISO model, with its retention of separate RAW streams and possibility of further post remixing is attractive. I surmise that the sound quality is essentially the same as the "pro" but better than the base modes.
Lesson learned: I got an XLR to 3.5mm TRS whose pinout was the hot to L, and cold to R (or vice versa). Sounded fine in my headphones, BUT Google Chrome mixes to mono when using a webcam source, so no audio was coming through. That was fun.
@@RyanKnowsNothing So my setup is this, and please correct me if wrong. I have a Sony FS5 MK2 that I send to Epiphan Pearl 2 with 4K add-on. I use that to record in 4 K and to stream live to CZcams via 1080p. So I run a Rode wireless mic from myself into the transmitter. If more than 1 person then it’s 2-3-4 mics that go from Rode Filmmaker’s Kit to the Zoom H6 then I connect the Zoom H6 into the camera via balanced cable so that I don’t have to do any sync in post. Should I connect to the Pearl Instead? Next question is I want to add multiple camera and then add a splitter like a ATEM Pro or a Roland to do switching better than what the Pearl has. Would I keep the same and just run all cameras in to the Roland. The Rode wireless mics all the Zoom then the Zoom into the main camera and then Roland out to Pearl and Pearl can record and Stream or should the Audio go the Roland Or the Pearl? My goal is to have great audio, and do no syncing in post because I am not very good at it. I just want to do it correctly. Thank you for all your time and help. You have Gained a subscriber and not sure why u don’t have more. You keep it simple so a guy like me can understand. Thank you and keep up the good work!
Quick question does that ART TubeMP, remove the hiss and noise coming from the mics if you place in between the mics and and atem? Why dint you do it on the video. By the way, good video !
Thanks Juan! I didn’t do it because funnily enough I ran out of cables! Plus the video was long enough. I am going to do it in an upcoming video where we push it to the max!
Can’t you just save the ATEM Mini Pro settings, including the audio, into a file via the ATEM Control Software? And also tell it to save your config as the startup config? Once you save the settings for one channel, you can copy/paste/edit the XML in the appropriate section of the saved config file to duplicate the settings for the other channels, load the audio config back into the ATEM (having saved it as a discrete file), & then save the edited config files, including startup config, again. FYI, I use an app called iMix 16 Pro 64 on my iPad to play video and audio into the ATEM Mini Pro. Thanks as always for your educational & entertaining videos!
Yeah, but that seems like a lot of work! Ha! Have you been able to get that to work? If not, I'll give it a try. There's a chance that inserting a battery into the ATEM will help save settings, but I haven't been able to try that out yet either. I'll have to check out that app. I use Q-Lab quite a bit, so it just felt natural to go there. Thanks for the advice! And thanks for enjoying my videos! I love putting them together even thought I tend to ramble on for waaaay to long sometimes. I am trying to create tighter and shorter edits, but I haven't conquered that barrier yet!
hi-tech on life - the startup config is nonvolatile. If you’re explicitly saving your startup config and the ATEM seems to lose it between power cycles, you may need to get BMD to send you a replacement unit. Don’t change anything with your presentation style, it’s unique & appealing. ;>
Please do not call it "unbalancing" when you short a cable that came out a microphone or mixer from which a signal could be balanced. "Shorting" or using "one of the two signals" is not the same as "unbalancing". When you short it or use one side, the "balancing" just never started in the first place. The way you connected this can also go wrong if the tip, ring, sleeve of the mini jacks is in a other order connected to the 2 female mini-jacks. There are cables with on one side the stereo mini jack and on the other side have two female xlr plugs. These cables are made for this 'strange' connection. If you want the cable to be balanced, then you can use a transformer/decoupler/DI box (preferable in a 1:1 ratio) to do proper real unbalancing. For short cables balancing/unbalancing is not really needed. However a decoupler(transformer) can be wise to prevent other unwanted shorting.
@@RyanKnowsNothing lol, well no lives are lost :) I show connecting a balanced mixer-out (which also could be a microphone-out) to an Atem mic-input with using a DI-transformer in this video: czcams.com/video/YQbWidjN6qo/video.html (My channel or videos have no direct or indirect commercial intention. There are no affiliate links or in-video advertisements. My channel is not monetized. It is just Hobby)
Thanks for the video. I just have a serious issues on my atem mini pro which I don't have any signals to the mic input. I tried playing an audio on the mic input but nothing's different,no signal at all. I tried many times resetting the device but I got no good results. What do you think sir?
It’s pretty much as simple as plugging it in to the mic input and making sure you have mic level selected in the ATEM software. Hearing it on the other hand is the difficult part. You either have to run it to a monitor that has a headphone out, or get a box from Amazon that splits the audio from the HDMI signal. Luckily the ATEM Extreme had a headphone out. Just wish us poor people that can’t afford the extreme had an easier time of it.
Hi bro. I have an ATEM Mini and the image is great. Audio is coming from a soundboard and being plugged in the mic input. When the band is playing the audio is horrible but if it is just someone talking on a microphone it sounds fine. Is there any equipment I should buy to have a good audio no matter how many instruments?
My question, well my setup is 4 HDMI cams going into the Pro, cam 1 has wireless mic system that accepts 2 transmitters, and using only HDMI 1 audio turned on, is that considered Mic or line in ( my camera is a sony ax2000 with XLR inputs that I can "Switch on" to accept xlr 1 to go to both channels,) I am monitoring through the Atomos Flame , and when streaming to FB live i get distortion any thoughts? should I go from receiver to MIC in on the ATEM Mini Pro or ?? and if so , what should I set settings to ( slider levels and such). hope this makes sense.. Great videos you produce, straight with no nonsense jibber jabber.. keep up the great work. !!
Hi Art, Again, sorry for the delay in my response. I think on those cameras it is a mic input. When you monitor through the Atomos, is it distored, or only when you send to FB Live? If it is only on FB live, then I'd look at your audio volumes on the ATEM Software Control. See what the meters are outputting. If they are hitting the red, then you're definitely distorting the audio being broadcast. You can adjust the gain of the level coming from your camera inside the ATEM Software Control panel. It's the rotary knob at the top of your HDMI 1 input channel. If you are hearing distortion from the Atomos, I'd check the wireless receivers and make sure their gain settings aren't turned way up. I've had that happen one or two times. I hope that helps! Let me know what you figured out.
I have a Lightning to HDMI adapter from Apple: amzn.to/3j4kR1T I think there are cheaper third party versions, but the Apple one has been solid. When plugged in it automatically sends the audio over HDMI to the ATEM. Hope that helps. Thanks Rob!
Great videos..i have been trying to connect my iPad as a line in through the headphone jack and it’s not loud at all.... looks like you connected by HDMI and it sounds great, is that right?
I do both. Depends on what inputs I have available. If I need one of the HDMI inputs for video I’ll run an audio cable from the iPad to a small mixer and then from the mixer to the ATEM.
@@RyanKnowsNothing Thanks for the response. So I plugged in the iPad HDMI - I can see the audio Pulse on the CAM1 meter as well as the Master meter to the right and there is no sound output to Streamyard from the iPad. I also have a Macbook Pro connected by HDMI and same thing, I can see video and audio Pulse on the CAM2 meter as well as the Master meter to the right and there is no sound output to Streamyard from the iPad. Both audio buttons above the CAM buttons are set to on and both volume sliders are up. As much as the ATEM Mini is a great CAMERA switcher (no audio to my live stream tho) there is a huge learning curve and its almost been thrown out the window a few times!
Ryan, thanks for ATEM mic video. Can you tell me exactly the cables you used or link? I want to get them. Also if you can suggest best cables for just using two mic input. I have xlr mic and various wireless mic....but not working. Not sure if I need preamp or what...I'm a novice. Just having problems with some mic, both wired and wireless not working when I connect to ATEM mic input. Thanks.
Hi J, The link for those cables are in the description. You should be able to find what you're looking for there. What you may need to do is get into the ATEM Mini Control app, click the settings wheel in the bottom left corner, click on the audio tab and make sure the audio inputs are set to Mic level. That is really the only thing I could think of why you wouldn't be able to hear it. Mic level is much lower than line level, so try that first.
Great video thank you. So quick question. If you turn on all four mics you'll get sound from all of them irrespective of the video channel, correct? You can switch to whatever camera you want and all four mics will be active? Is there a way to isolate a mic per camera input? Thanks!
Hey Lyle! Yes that is correct. In this demonstration the mics are independent of anything video. If you run mics into cameras and then turn on the audio for each HDMI input, you can also have the ATEM receive the mic signal and be controlled independently of the video switching, as long as you turn them “ON” and not AFV which means Audio Follows Video and will cut the mics as you switch between cameras. Hope that helps!
Just get a cheap behringer mixer with unbalanced output and be done with it. I got a 8 channel mixer and a 8 channel soundcard hooked up to my mini and if I ever for some reason would need it I can do this too
Very true. My normal setup is through a cheap Yamaha mixer. This was more a “can I do this” type thing. And like you said, there’s this option as a last resort.
Hey Ryan, loved your video...Have you experimented doing a remote podcast or interview using the your ipad or computer (skype/zoom) as a source on the atem mini? Can it handle the loopback/mix-minus? or would we need to run it through an audio interface which would do the mix-minus and then run it into the atem mini?
Hey Hassaan! Sorry for the late reply. I took the last month of the year off from CZcams. That is a great question. I've been able to bring in video and audio from an iPad, but I don't thing the ATEM will support a mix-minus feed as it only has the main program audio out. I think in this case you would have to split the audio from the Skype/Zoom call and route it into a mixer or interface. I'd prefer a digital mixer of some kind to take care of that. You may also need an audio interface specifically for the iPad/iPhone to get pro connections in and out of it. It'd have to be something like this amzn.to/2Xmyq3Y from PreSonus where you have the line outs in the back to bring into your mixer, and line inputs in the front to send back to the device. I hope that helps. Do you have a setup you are trying to put together?
@@RyanKnowsNothing I am in process of putting one together... So kind of you to address this, really appreciate it... may I suggest two interfaces which already has mix/minus/loopback in it? 1. www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1514482-REG/motu_3120_m2_2x2_usb_c_audio.html Its the motu m2, great reviews, people say its better than the legendary focusrite 2i2, better amps plus loopback built-in. 2. www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1580285-REG/zoom_podtrak_p4_podcast_recorder.html Another specifically for podcasting which also has a function of enabling/disabling mix minus, Zoom Podtrak P4 With this I guess we will have to use an XLR to 3.5mm jack cable to take out the zoom/skype/phone call and route it to the audio input of the atem mini Great to have consulted with you Ryan, Keep making great videos brother!
@@hassaanmian234 I was looking at the Podtrak P4 just the other day. Looks pretty cool! Perfect for the podcasters of the world. MOTU has always made great products. I had a Firewire interface back in the day that sounded amazing! They always tend to get pushed aside when people are looking for new interfaces. Good luck man!
Wait what? I re-watched this video and now I just noticed a strange comment by you: "you technically can't have a unbalanced mic pre-amp" or "you technically can't have a balanced mic pre-amp". Both these sentences (so with or without the mis-speaking and correcting) are strange to me. Amplifying and balancing are two separate things that have nothing to do with each other. So I do not understand what you are saying here. balancing and unbalancing is a method of transporting signal over a usually longer cable to cancel out interference that the signal could pic up during the transport. A pre-amp is simply an amplifier to boost the signal from microphone signal strength to line level strength. So balanced or unbalanced signal have absolutely nothing to do with the pre-amp. Very technically said the signal going into the pre-amp is an unbalanced signal because the un-balancing is done before the signal goes to the pre-amp. If you really understand what balancing is then probably that is what you meant to say I guess. But with how you said it, it sounds to me that you are combing the pre-amp with balance as being one.
I don't know for sure. I know QLab can do that on a Mac, and I think they have a free control app for QLab. So you could potentially do that, even though it's technically running on the Mac and not your iPad.
I think I covered this in one of my streams, but I use either a dual 1/4" mono to single 1/8" stereo cable, or a dual RCA to 1/8" and make sure the ATEM is set to Line level. The interface is similar, but you are running through the computer which can cause latency, unless you have a direct monitoring option built into your interface.
@@RyanKnowsNothing depending on if you are trying to use a monitor output or headphone output, it should also work by using a stereo 1/4in TRS to stereo 1/8in TRS. Right?
I appreciate your knowledge, but you really need to stick to the main topic and stop with the tangents. Present your topic, do it, then, add the extra material as needed (or, add cuts for those that want the main info). Please.
I use one that my local audio shop makes in house. That may be completely wired different than others, so I would say try a couple from Amazon and see which works best. Then you can return what didn't work. Start with this one: amzn.to/38tmjZV It is an amazon choice product and has decent reviews. Hope that helps!
Thank you sharing us for your Connecting Four Microphones (or more) to the ATEM Mini !
not sure if it was added after this video, but you can go ~ file > save startup state ~ and it saves all your settings for next bootup ~
I think it was. I just noticed that when booting up the ATEM this last go around.
Thank you for demonstrating this! The only way the ATEM soundinputs work acceptable is when you put them to line, which gives you a consumer type -10 dB stereo input. Feed that with the right signal and you're okay.
I can't believe how easy that was. Thanks for the help!
We simply connect our external sound board to the ATEM input - after using the Atem config program to change from mic level to line level. It’s simply the much better way to go. An external mixer offers much better control over each channel and you are limited only by the number of channels in the mixer. Plus there is no need for special cables - which is helpful if you get into a bind and need to find a spare cable.
Oh, absolutely. I am 100% in agreement with you on that. I always use some external mixing device for live streams. Currently with one of my side gigs we are using the Allen & Heath DLive console.
This video was merely a proof of concept, and to show that it can be done if needed.
Thanks Scott!
The ATEM is not intended to drive dynamic mics like the Shures you are using because these mics have a very low output. The ability to split the two mic inputs is useful if you use lav mics since BOTH the tip and ring will deliver power to the lav mics (about 3v) and they will supply enough output to satisfy the ATEM pre amps. So you could have 4 lav mics running from the ATEM audio sockets. If you have cameras with mic inputs you could split those in the same way - potentially giving you 12 audio inputs !
Obviously an external mixer is preferable for ease of control but generally* audio mixers don't provide the 3-5v required by lav mics (you would need more expensive mics with phantom power adapters to drop the 48v phantom power to around 5v for that). But mixers are ideal to drive professional 48v condenser mics and will often have enough gain to deal with dynamic mics (at least 65db). But external mixers can also produce hiss if they have cheap pre amps or if you have to apply most of their quoted gain to a dynamic mic.
Some ENG mixers like the SoundDevices MixPre's do have a splittable 3.5mm 3v mic input as well as XLRs and good clean gain for dynamics but they are a bit expensive.
That makes complete sense! I guess what I was targeting is people who want to stream their podcast and didn’t have an external mixer. I’ll have to test it with multiple lavs to see how it works.
Both Deity and Rode make a XLR to 3.5 mm adapter that takes 48v and drops it to 3v for lav mics. So that gives you another option for a crazy audio chain. I would use it with a mixer or Rodecaster Pro. 😁
Thanks man! I learn something new each and every day.
I send a 32 channel Digico console into an Atem for a full stage worth of mics and direct inputs, works fine with same cables x
A headphone out and headphone volume would have been a nice addition to this ATEM Mini. But not a deal breaker. Using an HDMI audio extractor on the ATEM HDMI output. The 1/8 stereo mini inputs also a weak link but it's a small footprint so there isn't room for individual say 1/4" inputs. I was surprised bringing externally processed audio sounded as good as it does. So the audio inputs are usable.
Would I be able to use the unbalanced 1/4" Jack outputs from a dual wireless mic receiver into the Atem Mini Pro 1/8" mic inputs?
If so, will there be any difference in using a stereo cable vs a mono cable (1/4" to 1/8" jack)?
Would you happen to know if the cables should be balanced or unbalanced? I am using an XLR to 1/8 mini 3.5. Thanks for any info.
Great explanation on the ATEM! I'm doing a bit more of an advanced setup in my studio... but this definitely answered some questions!
Very awesome! Glad the video was helpful. Hopefully your setup isn’t too crazy!
@@RyanKnowsNothing I have 4 BMPC 4k cameras with 20 inch teleprompters that I built myself. The "studio desk" and control station has 3 computers, the ATEM Extreme for the cameras and computers, the ATEM mini to control what goes into the prompters and the audio mixer. It's a bit overwhelming to be the talent, director and producer all at once. :D
Excellent proof of concept 👍
Thanks Paul!
amazing. Speechless.
This is so smart! I’m looking to add a wireless to 2 in, to try and get both mics recording separately. Would that work here too?
The Traktor dj cable is really good quality. For the splitter cable. Check it out.
thanks you Ryan
Ryan, you did it again. Awesome video!! Nicely done. I cant wait to see you incorporate a mixer for a more professional sound. I am still thinking about getting the Allen & Heat Zed10 FX along with the ART clean box pro. Your thoughts! Thanks Bud.
I think those would be a GREAT combination. Hopefully I can shoot something this weekend to get a better idea on how well it will work.
Thanks for the content. Why wouldn't you just add the mics to the camera inputs? That would potentially give you six inputs. Right?
Incredibly detailed & Thank you so much :)
is there a way to 4-way monitor the audio so that guests can hear each other via headphones
Your video shows some interesting workarounds, but makes me doubt that we can get professional quality audio streaming through any model of the Atem Mini. Main concern is live streaming (while recoding) live classical chamber music concerts is to be able to continue to use our Blumlein-paired Neuman KN184 mics, preamped through our Sound Design 232 while switching and possibly PIPing between two, (rarely 3) fixed and a mobile camera, rather than any camera, or the Mini's preamp. The lack of XLR, BNC or even standard phono inputs is concerning, but we really can't justify spending yet more on equipment which obsoletes quickly, and may become unnecessary in the near(?) future. Operation also has to be as simple as possible to minimize disruption to musicians and audience from the front-row position the historic and acoustically very live necessitates. The ISO model, with its retention of separate RAW streams and possibility of further post remixing is attractive. I surmise that the sound quality is essentially the same as the "pro" but better than the base modes.
Great! So, I guess I can run my 3 audio signals the same way. 1- lav mic 2- guitar mono signal and 3-rhythm machine mono. What do you think? 😀
Hey, can you do a video on the proper but budget way to connect 4 XLR mics to ATEM mini?
This is that video
Had this issue - Add a 1k ohm inside of each xlr connector to the hot side to preload the mics and it should eliminate the background noise.
Thanks for the insight Steve!
why not use the ATEM gate to help with the noise?
Lesson learned: I got an XLR to 3.5mm TRS whose pinout was the hot to L, and cold to R (or vice versa). Sounded fine in my headphones, BUT Google Chrome mixes to mono when using a webcam source, so no audio was coming through. That was fun.
D’oh! Yeah it’s hard to make sure all is well on every platform. Stupid google.
Question. Would you run the 4 mics into a Zoom H6 then the Zoom H6 into the Atem? You can control volume from the Zoom. Any thoughts on that?
YES! I would recommend that over running mics directly into the ATEM. The mic preamps on the ATEM are NOT good. They introduce too much noise.
@@RyanKnowsNothing So my setup is this, and please correct me if wrong. I have a Sony FS5 MK2 that I send to Epiphan Pearl 2 with 4K add-on. I use that to record in 4 K and to stream live to CZcams via 1080p. So I run a Rode wireless mic from myself into the transmitter. If more than 1 person then it’s 2-3-4 mics that go from Rode Filmmaker’s Kit to the Zoom H6 then I connect the Zoom H6 into the camera via balanced cable so that I don’t have to do any sync in post. Should I connect to the Pearl Instead? Next question is I want to add multiple camera and then add a splitter like a ATEM Pro or a Roland to do switching better than what the Pearl has. Would I keep the same and just run all cameras in to the Roland. The Rode wireless mics all the Zoom then the Zoom into the main camera and then Roland out to Pearl and Pearl can record and Stream or should the Audio go the Roland Or the Pearl? My goal is to have great audio, and do no syncing in post because I am not very good at it. I just want to do it correctly. Thank you for all your time and help. You have Gained a subscriber and not sure why u don’t have more. You keep it simple so a guy like me can understand. Thank you and keep up the good work!
How did you get rid of the hiss at the end of the video?
Quick question does that ART TubeMP, remove the hiss and noise coming from the mics if you place in between the mics and and atem? Why dint you do it on the video. By the way, good video !
Thanks Juan! I didn’t do it because funnily enough I ran out of cables! Plus the video was long enough. I am going to do it in an upcoming video where we push it to the max!
How about a remake of this video with a couple of the new Rode Wireless Go 2s!
I have them on order!
Can’t you just save the ATEM Mini Pro settings, including the audio, into a file via the ATEM Control Software? And also tell it to save your config as the startup config? Once you save the settings for one channel, you can copy/paste/edit the XML in the appropriate section of the saved config file to duplicate the settings for the other channels, load the audio config back into the ATEM (having saved it as a discrete file), & then save the edited config files, including startup config, again.
FYI, I use an app called iMix 16 Pro 64 on my iPad to play video and audio into the ATEM Mini Pro.
Thanks as always for your educational & entertaining videos!
Yeah, but that seems like a lot of work! Ha! Have you been able to get that to work? If not, I'll give it a try. There's a chance that inserting a battery into the ATEM will help save settings, but I haven't been able to try that out yet either.
I'll have to check out that app. I use Q-Lab quite a bit, so it just felt natural to go there. Thanks for the advice!
And thanks for enjoying my videos! I love putting them together even thought I tend to ramble on for waaaay to long sometimes. I am trying to create tighter and shorter edits, but I haven't conquered that barrier yet!
hi-tech on life - the startup config is nonvolatile. If you’re explicitly saving your startup config and the ATEM seems to lose it between power cycles, you may need to get BMD to send you a replacement unit.
Don’t change anything with your presentation style, it’s unique & appealing. ;>
Thank man! I’ll try that next time I start up the ATEM.
Please do not call it "unbalancing" when you short a cable that came out a microphone or mixer from which a signal could be balanced. "Shorting" or using "one of the two signals" is not the same as "unbalancing". When you short it or use one side, the "balancing" just never started in the first place. The way you connected this can also go wrong if the tip, ring, sleeve of the mini jacks is in a other order connected to the 2 female mini-jacks. There are cables with on one side the stereo mini jack and on the other side have two female xlr plugs. These cables are made for this 'strange' connection. If you want the cable to be balanced, then you can use a transformer/decoupler/DI box (preferable in a 1:1 ratio) to do proper real unbalancing. For short cables balancing/unbalancing is not really needed. However a decoupler(transformer) can be wise to prevent other unwanted shorting.
Whoops.
@@RyanKnowsNothing lol, well no lives are lost :) I show connecting a balanced mixer-out (which also could be a microphone-out) to an Atem mic-input with using a DI-transformer in this video: czcams.com/video/YQbWidjN6qo/video.html (My channel or videos have no direct or indirect commercial intention. There are no affiliate links or in-video advertisements. My channel is not monetized. It is just Hobby)
hey Ryan, is it possible to connect a scarlet 2i2 to ATEM mini?, I'm new on this and I don't know a lot, good video
Thanks for the video.
I just have a serious issues on my atem mini pro which I don't have any signals to the mic input. I tried playing an audio on the mic input but nothing's different,no signal at all. I tried many times resetting the device but I got no good results. What do you think sir?
What audio mixer would you recommend? I'm on a tight budget and I want to run a livestream with 4 microphone setup to the ATEM mini
I loved this video
Thanks Jared!
can you split the audio from your different mics from your mixer into the atem. and how will you do it. so you can control each individual mic
Hey Peter! I answered this question on your other comment. Let me know what you think!
Please answer this..Is it possible to separate individual tracks?
how to set up lavalier mic with atem mini pro, can i hear the voice through the pro or external speaker
It’s pretty much as simple as plugging it in to the mic input and making sure you have mic level selected in the ATEM software. Hearing it on the other hand is the difficult part. You either have to run it to a monitor that has a headphone out, or get a box from Amazon that splits the audio from the HDMI signal. Luckily the ATEM Extreme had a headphone out. Just wish us poor people that can’t afford the extreme had an easier time of it.
Hi bro. I have an ATEM Mini and the image is great. Audio is coming from a soundboard and being plugged in the mic input. When the band is playing the audio is horrible but if it is just someone talking on a microphone it sounds fine.
Is there any equipment I should buy to have a good audio no matter how many instruments?
My question, well my setup is 4 HDMI cams going into the Pro, cam 1 has wireless mic system that accepts 2 transmitters, and using only HDMI 1 audio turned on, is that considered Mic or line in ( my camera is a sony ax2000 with XLR inputs that I can "Switch on" to accept xlr 1 to go to both channels,) I am monitoring through the Atomos Flame , and when streaming to FB live i get distortion any thoughts? should I go from receiver to MIC in on the ATEM Mini Pro or ?? and if so , what should I set settings to ( slider levels and such). hope this makes sense.. Great videos you produce, straight with no nonsense jibber jabber.. keep up the great work. !!
Hi Art,
Again, sorry for the delay in my response. I think on those cameras it is a mic input. When you monitor through the Atomos, is it distored, or only when you send to FB Live? If it is only on FB live, then I'd look at your audio volumes on the ATEM Software Control. See what the meters are outputting. If they are hitting the red, then you're definitely distorting the audio being broadcast. You can adjust the gain of the level coming from your camera inside the ATEM Software Control panel. It's the rotary knob at the top of your HDMI 1 input channel.
If you are hearing distortion from the Atomos, I'd check the wireless receivers and make sure their gain settings aren't turned way up. I've had that happen one or two times.
I hope that helps! Let me know what you figured out.
id run a Line 6 Helix into it (just because i have one) if not a real mixer into it.
Yeah, I’ve found that is the best way to go!
How do you input the iPad into the HDMI on the ATEM?
I have a Lightning to HDMI adapter from Apple: amzn.to/3j4kR1T
I think there are cheaper third party versions, but the Apple one has been solid. When plugged in it automatically sends the audio over HDMI to the ATEM.
Hope that helps. Thanks Rob!
hi-tech on life The cheap ones aren’t realiable or don’t work. Walmart sells the Apple adapter for $5 less than Apple.
Great videos..i have been trying to connect my iPad as a line in through the headphone jack and it’s not loud at all.... looks like you connected by HDMI and it sounds great, is that right?
I do both. Depends on what inputs I have available. If I need one of the HDMI inputs for video I’ll run an audio cable from the iPad to a small mixer and then from the mixer to the ATEM.
@@RyanKnowsNothing Thanks for the response. So I plugged in the iPad HDMI - I can see the audio Pulse on the CAM1 meter as well as the Master meter to the right and there is no sound output to Streamyard from the iPad. I also have a Macbook Pro connected by HDMI and same thing, I can see video and audio Pulse on the CAM2 meter as well as the Master meter to the right and there is no sound output to Streamyard from the iPad. Both audio buttons above the CAM buttons are set to on and both volume sliders are up. As much as the ATEM Mini is a great CAMERA switcher (no audio to my live stream tho) there is a huge learning curve and its almost been thrown out the window a few times!
Ryan, thanks for ATEM mic video.
Can you tell me exactly the cables you used or link? I want to get them. Also if you can suggest best cables for just using two mic input. I have xlr mic and various wireless mic....but not working. Not sure if I need preamp or what...I'm a novice. Just having problems with some mic, both wired and wireless not working when I connect to ATEM mic input. Thanks.
Hi J,
The link for those cables are in the description. You should be able to find what you're looking for there. What you may need to do is get into the ATEM Mini Control app, click the settings wheel in the bottom left corner, click on the audio tab and make sure the audio inputs are set to Mic level. That is really the only thing I could think of why you wouldn't be able to hear it. Mic level is much lower than line level, so try that first.
Great video thank you. So quick question. If you turn on all four mics you'll get sound from all of them irrespective of the video channel, correct? You can switch to whatever camera you want and all four mics will be active? Is there a way to isolate a mic per camera input? Thanks!
Hey Lyle! Yes that is correct. In this demonstration the mics are independent of anything video. If you run mics into cameras and then turn on the audio for each HDMI input, you can also have the ATEM receive the mic signal and be controlled independently of the video switching, as long as you turn them “ON” and not AFV which means Audio Follows Video and will cut the mics as you switch between cameras. Hope that helps!
Just get a cheap behringer mixer with unbalanced output and be done with it. I got a 8 channel mixer and a 8 channel soundcard hooked up to my mini and if I ever for some reason would need it I can do this too
Very true. My normal setup is through a cheap Yamaha mixer. This was more a “can I do this” type thing. And like you said, there’s this option as a last resort.
You can save you audio setting
Yeah, that is a feature they added after I posted this video. I think it was literally a week after I posted it.
Hey Ryan, loved your video...Have you experimented doing a remote podcast or interview using the your ipad or computer (skype/zoom) as a source on the atem mini? Can it handle the loopback/mix-minus? or would we need to run it through an audio interface which would do the mix-minus and then run it into the atem mini?
Hey Hassaan!
Sorry for the late reply. I took the last month of the year off from CZcams.
That is a great question. I've been able to bring in video and audio from an iPad, but I don't thing the ATEM will support a mix-minus feed as it only has the main program audio out. I think in this case you would have to split the audio from the Skype/Zoom call and route it into a mixer or interface. I'd prefer a digital mixer of some kind to take care of that. You may also need an audio interface specifically for the iPad/iPhone to get pro connections in and out of it.
It'd have to be something like this amzn.to/2Xmyq3Y from PreSonus where you have the line outs in the back to bring into your mixer, and line inputs in the front to send back to the device. I hope that helps. Do you have a setup you are trying to put together?
@@RyanKnowsNothing I am in process of putting one together... So kind of you to address this, really appreciate it... may I suggest two interfaces which already has mix/minus/loopback in it?
1. www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1514482-REG/motu_3120_m2_2x2_usb_c_audio.html
Its the motu m2, great reviews, people say its better than the legendary focusrite 2i2, better amps plus loopback built-in.
2. www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1580285-REG/zoom_podtrak_p4_podcast_recorder.html
Another specifically for podcasting which also has a function of enabling/disabling mix minus, Zoom Podtrak P4
With this I guess we will have to use an XLR to 3.5mm jack cable to take out the zoom/skype/phone call and route it to the audio input of the atem mini
Great to have consulted with you Ryan, Keep making great videos brother!
@@hassaanmian234 I was looking at the Podtrak P4 just the other day. Looks pretty cool! Perfect for the podcasters of the world. MOTU has always made great products. I had a Firewire interface back in the day that sounded amazing! They always tend to get pushed aside when people are looking for new interfaces.
Good luck man!
So is it possible to do like side chain ducking with the ATEM Mini EQ so that when i'm speaking on Mic 1, Mic 2 input will be turned down?
Unfortunately no. That would be a very cool function!
Wait what? I re-watched this video and now I just noticed a strange comment by you: "you technically can't have a unbalanced mic pre-amp" or "you technically can't have a balanced mic pre-amp". Both these sentences (so with or without the mis-speaking and correcting) are strange to me. Amplifying and balancing are two separate things that have nothing to do with each other. So I do not understand what you are saying here. balancing and unbalancing is a method of transporting signal over a usually longer cable to cancel out interference that the signal could pic up during the transport. A pre-amp is simply an amplifier to boost the signal from microphone signal strength to line level strength. So balanced or unbalanced signal have absolutely nothing to do with the pre-amp. Very technically said the signal going into the pre-amp is an unbalanced signal because the un-balancing is done before the signal goes to the pre-amp. If you really understand what balancing is then probably that is what you meant to say I guess. But with how you said it, it sounds to me that you are combing the pre-amp with balance as being one.
Is there a que app for the iPad that allows you to cue up both audio and video clips and cues?
I don't know for sure. I know QLab can do that on a Mac, and I think they have a free control app for QLab. So you could potentially do that, even though it's technically running on the Mac and not your iPad.
@@RyanKnowsNothing I thought about just having a playlist of videos on my show but it would be so nice to have it all in one place.
@@caseymacgill3428 I know, I wanted to do the same thing. I guess you could just grab QLab and have your wife run it for the streams?
how would you connect the mixer to the atem? trying to figure that + audio interface connectivity out ~
I think I covered this in one of my streams, but I use either a dual 1/4" mono to single 1/8" stereo cable, or a dual RCA to 1/8" and make sure the ATEM is set to Line level. The interface is similar, but you are running through the computer which can cause latency, unless you have a direct monitoring option built into your interface.
@@RyanKnowsNothing depending on if you are trying to use a monitor output or headphone output, it should also work by using a stereo 1/4in TRS to stereo 1/8in TRS. Right?
I appreciate your knowledge, but you really need to stick to the main topic and stop with the tangents. Present your topic, do it, then, add the extra material as needed (or, add cuts for those that want the main info). Please.
Sorry man. Just the way my brain goes. Can’t help it!
EDIT: In fact I thought this one was pretty on topic for one of my videos! Ha!
What are you using to convert the Ipad to HDMI into The Atem?
I am just using the Apple Lightning to HDMI adapter. It’s simple, a little finicky now and then but overall pretty solid.
@@RyanKnowsNothing Thanks
what xlr to mini jack do you trust?
I use one that my local audio shop makes in house. That may be completely wired different than others, so I would say try a couple from Amazon and see which works best. Then you can return what didn't work. Start with this one: amzn.to/38tmjZV
It is an amazon choice product and has decent reviews.
Hope that helps!
Hosa = Hum
Yes, I have experienced that, but for the most part they've been okay.
Do you always use 4 mics in front of you. Are you like practicing for podium speaking presidency work? What’s the deal.