I Defend Cannon Rush And He Asks Me To Leave

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Komentáře • 356

  • @Rawkit_Surgeon
    @Rawkit_Surgeon Před 2 lety +161

    I haven't played starcraft in years.
    I see that the old "failed cannon rush into void ray spam meta" is still on play.

    • @135791max
      @135791max Před 2 lety +40

      "Failed cannon rush, into void ray, into losing but asking your opponent to leave"

    • @mixalis295
      @mixalis295 Před 2 lety +4

      I swear I would play more if I was playing only ZvT or ZvZ, when I was playing I got so used to protoss cheese that I rarely lost to it but I was so disguisted that even at masters you see shit like that it was lowkey one of the main reasons I stopped

    • @Ollay245
      @Ollay245 Před 2 lety +2

      @@mixalis295 aggressive strats have and always will be a part of the game, and tbh cheese is usually the easiest match up - if you're masters then you're scouting well enough surely?

    • @maxbooth179
      @maxbooth179 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Ollay245 he said he rarely lost to it

    • @Kioth7
      @Kioth7 Před 2 lety

      yeah that switch to void ray was fine but stalker build was dumb move

  • @adaml8827
    @adaml8827 Před 2 lety +309

    Please leave the game so that I can continue to be matched with players who are better than me rather than lowering my mmr so that I am facing equivalent competition. It just makes no sense to me

    • @PepsiMagt
      @PepsiMagt Před 2 lety +47

      Cannonrushing your way up the ladder is already certain get you overmatched opposition.

    • @tmarritt
      @tmarritt Před 2 lety +45

      I'm LOW rank and absolutely hate it when you get a game and they quit immediately and up your MMR by a 100, totally screw me, I know I'm gonna have a really bad time for the next couple of games.
      I didn't earn that MMR and I'm just gonna get wrecked for the next 3 games minimum, why would anyone want that.

    • @wischmopps293
      @wischmopps293 Před 2 lety +23

      That's why so many toss complain that other races are op. Toss is the easiest race for cheeesing up and then they get matched to players who eat them in longer games

    • @waseatenbyagrue
      @waseatenbyagrue Před 2 lety +24

      No, it's fine. He will just ask them to leave too until he is GM.

    • @temushin
      @temushin Před 2 lety +7

      @@waseatenbyagrue Honestly I don't know why more pro players don't go with this strategy.

  • @jonxor
    @jonxor Před 2 lety +198

    So good to see a zerg hold against protoss cheese. Nicely done!

    • @Larez121
      @Larez121 Před 2 lety +2

      Yeah! Totally agree!

    • @RamesGamesLC
      @RamesGamesLC Před 2 lety +4

      its almost like it just takes some mechanics and skill to defend a decent cheese in a skill and reaction based RTS.

    • @christophedehais
      @christophedehais Před rokem +2

      The skill asymmetry in execution between the cheese and the defence is staggering though

  • @ThePeteriarchy
    @ThePeteriarchy Před 2 lety +46

    "Your alt" lmao. It almost feels like a compliment when the accusations of smurfing come out. Nice job wiping the floor with em.

  • @DavidLee-frost
    @DavidLee-frost Před 2 lety +121

    He's banking on the 1 void ray and a dream strategy

    • @Gossettc68
      @Gossettc68 Před 2 lety +3

      Fuckin void rays...Like no one saw that comin a mile away...Literally every time I play against Toss.

    • @Inko_Inko
      @Inko_Inko Před 2 lety +2

      That strategy was revealed to him in a dream

    • @Gossettc68
      @Gossettc68 Před 2 lety +3

      @@Inko_Inko lol...I love facing the void gay toss'es...They might actually win against me queens...If they built archons =P

  • @MrDoubleIndemnity
    @MrDoubleIndemnity Před 2 lety +75

    "hello I'm lame and I like to ask people to leave after my build fails"
    way to go. Nice hold ZG

  • @raystinger6261
    @raystinger6261 Před 2 lety +46

    I was here almost yelling at the screen: "Dude, you're throwing away Void Rays? C'mon man, that's too pricey to just throw away in small attacks like these!".

  • @thexalon
    @thexalon Před 2 lety +13

    I'm kind of curious how many times his "would you mind leaving" worked.

  • @gsgaming6976
    @gsgaming6976 Před 2 lety +4

    Babysitting toddlers is actually probably the best metaphor I've ever heard for how you need to handle rts units.

  • @JotakRTS
    @JotakRTS Před 2 lety +91

    Lmao I played against this guy like two weeks ago. Also started the game saying "Jesus loves you" and then proceeded to proxy 4-rax me tvz. After I held he asked me to leave because I was "clearly smurfing"

    • @kindlin
      @kindlin Před 2 lety +1

      That sounds basically identical. Sure it wasn't the same guy?

    • @rara9333
      @rara9333 Před 2 lety

      faithphobia is real in you my friend

    • @coldfate1
      @coldfate1 Před 2 lety +1

      Something tells me he's not, like that's the joke.

    • @Aiveq
      @Aiveq Před 2 lety +4

      @@kindlin op literally said "this guy"

    • @kindlin
      @kindlin Před 2 lety +2

      @@Aiveq Ah, correct. I guess I somehow read "guy like this" instead of "this guy like"

  • @wompers7018
    @wompers7018 Před 2 lety +23

    The cheek, the nerve, the gall, the audacity and the gumption of this protoss. 나가!

    • @sulevturnpuu5491
      @sulevturnpuu5491 Před 2 lety +1

      he was random.

    • @wompers7018
      @wompers7018 Před 2 lety +5

      @@sulevturnpuu5491 yes but that doesn't fit my anti-protoss narrative does it. 😝

  • @alexanderstuart7801
    @alexanderstuart7801 Před 2 lety +24

    We will rush... with our cannons! They will never expect us to use a defensive structure offensively!
    Sir... our cannon rush has been pushed back.
    Well... we shall attack with void rays! Our enemy will never expect us to attack from the air!
    Sir... our enemy has many queens. It appears they are well defended against air.
    Ah... well then, we shall fight until the last man!

    • @BestPrezz
      @BestPrezz Před 2 lety +21

      "Ah well then, we ask him to surrender! They will never expect us to do this!"

    • @ZombieGrub
      @ZombieGrub  Před 2 lety +18

      I enjoy this script.

  • @marcimarc203
    @marcimarc203 Před 2 lety +8

    When the canon rusher has the audacity to ask for mercy. I would've flamed that guy into the ground.

  • @javicoca
    @javicoca Před 2 lety +27

    Been watching vods of your casts for years now and I was very happy to see this video in my recommended. You've grown into a fantastic caster.

  • @ColeBreez
    @ColeBreez Před 2 lety +4

    i love how your Kitty just relaxed after you defended the rush :)

  • @trlavalley9909
    @trlavalley9909 Před 2 lety +31

    GG Quite cool looking over your shoulder, love how you just dismantled his base with the ravengers.

  • @danielvisky
    @danielvisky Před 8 měsíci

    "Can't handle all these toddlers" is the funniest stuff I've ever heard

  • @chronowolf4734
    @chronowolf4734 Před 2 lety +3

    Polgara? Like the sorceress from The Belgariad? I loved that series! And it fits the zerg queen naming scheme, very nice.

  • @BlueShellshock
    @BlueShellshock Před 2 lety +59

    Oh, and he was *so close* to being promoted to masters. Poor guy, you really should have just conceded, his cannon rush was clearly mucho skilled and deserving of a free win.

    • @DrDirtNips
      @DrDirtNips Před 2 lety +1

      LoL stop messing around, if he did good, she did better.

    • @dontthrow6064
      @dontthrow6064 Před 2 lety +8

      @@DrDirtNips sarcasm?

    • @dontthrow6064
      @dontthrow6064 Před 2 lety +4

      sometimes we dont realize that we grow until our limit of incompetence (heard it before), had he actually reached masters, they would have cured him of cannon rush ideas

    • @DrDirtNips
      @DrDirtNips Před 2 lety

      @@dontthrow6064 well she won, so if he did good, she did better.

    • @dontthrow6064
      @dontthrow6064 Před 2 lety +4

      @@DrDirtNips i recommend u read what sarcasm means
      and no, he didnt do well in any way
      canon rush is a cheap strategy to gamble ur mmr

  • @jasonharter4876
    @jasonharter4876 Před 2 lety +21

    What a baby. Well played. I can't stand people like that.

  • @DoctaHobo
    @DoctaHobo Před 2 lety +32

    I havent saved a starcraft video in a couple years. But i felt your defense against cannon rush was an effective way to do it and a way i could learn to do it. Thank you for posting this.

    • @waseatenbyagrue
      @waseatenbyagrue Před 2 lety +6

      Also against protoss you can pre-emptively take your third as your second base. If they cannon that, you can just give it up and take your natural. The advantage of this is that the cannon rush does not impact you getting troops out of your main, so it is not a big deal if protoss is left with some cannons there after they take out the hatch.,

    • @nates.9100
      @nates.9100 Před 2 lety

      @@waseatenbyagrue Big brain, I like this^

    • @Kaboomnz
      @Kaboomnz Před rokem +1

      its the standard way of defending a cannon rush although she should have had a drone following the probe, makes it harder for them to place buildings.

  • @geessaess1707
    @geessaess1707 Před 2 lety +2

    you madam handled it better than Artosis would have.

  • @nasrclips2757
    @nasrclips2757 Před 2 lety +2

    could have made it sound so much better saying " i accept ur surrender "

  • @aeronight5871
    @aeronight5871 Před 2 lety +9

    That was some nice defending! Kudos to you

  • @CallofDutyBlackOps28
    @CallofDutyBlackOps28 Před 2 lety +1

    the person reacting with "ty" to "Yes i do mind" really doesn't seem to understand that this is going to "sorry, i'm not leaving"

  • @alimoorad5998
    @alimoorad5998 Před 2 lety

    Well plaaayyyyedddd! I dont know how y'all play so calmy in such high pressure situations. I would feel overwhelmed and just call it quits.

    • @beedwarf
      @beedwarf Před 2 lety

      When I used to play Starcraft II online (10 years ago); those kinds of encounters are very common. When you play enough sessions and are confident in your abilities to deal with those kinds of encounters; you simply treat the opponent as if you were playing against the A.I.

  • @lz4737
    @lz4737 Před 9 měsíci

    Hahaha. This reminds me of a game in which SOS was using Stats' account and got cannon rushed, SOS initially told Stats not to worry but then ended up losing. SOS had to ask his opponent to leave so that Stats can keep his mmr. Stats was rofl in the background. It was hilarious.

  • @TristanOnGoogle
    @TristanOnGoogle Před 9 měsíci

    Like Vibe says : dont pull drones when canon rush is already set up, just build 3 spines and attack with other units when the 3 spines burrow right next to cannons.

  • @RyvenBrandon
    @RyvenBrandon Před 2 lety +3

    The Artosis Pylon spotted at 11:45 in the position of doorbell, bold move.

  • @J4Falpha
    @J4Falpha Před 2 lety +8

    That's hilarious... These cheesers would go to any lengths for the sweet victory 😂

  • @boneybone8123
    @boneybone8123 Před rokem

    04:20 It's pretty amazing that cat in the background went back to sleep right after threat inside the expansion neutralized.

    • @ZombieGrub
      @ZombieGrub  Před rokem

      He has a keen understanding of SC2

  • @Vintagedad
    @Vintagedad Před 2 lety

    You handled that really well. Even had back up ready

  • @muhammadzinc5228
    @muhammadzinc5228 Před 2 lety +7

    I've always enjoyed your casting. Great work. Good player too.

  • @cellobuddy251
    @cellobuddy251 Před 2 lety

    Big oof imagine cheesing, then failing cheese, then going into another cheese, and failing again, and then having the audacity to ask you to surrender lol

  • @maxpower7113
    @maxpower7113 Před 2 lety +1

    My favorite was defending an all-in rush in Command and Conquer that was considered best strategy only to be called a noob f***t and ragequit.

  • @Overgis4058
    @Overgis4058 Před 9 měsíci +1

    This type of shit is why i play agaist either AI or friends. I can get good without dealing with the frustration of cannon rushes, proxy everything, and zergs doing poor imitations of the german taxi.

  • @sample_sam9045
    @sample_sam9045 Před 2 lety +44

    jesus was a cannon rusher 😇

    • @ezet
      @ezet Před 2 lety +19

      So that's why he got crucified

    • @deepvoid2871
      @deepvoid2871 Před 2 lety +4

      @@ezet by the queens!

    • @zergling1562
      @zergling1562 Před 2 lety +1

      He got zergling rushed.

    • @e.clipperton4052
      @e.clipperton4052 Před 2 lety

      If it's good enough for jesus...it's probably not good enough for ZG, frankly

    • @jonsolo32
      @jonsolo32 Před 2 lety +6

      Jesus played with horrible lag. Took three days to respawn.

  • @Ormagon666
    @Ormagon666 Před 2 lety

    lol she dealt with that cheeky cannon rush like it was a minor nuisance that got to hurt the ego

  • @SHIBBYiPANDA
    @SHIBBYiPANDA Před 2 lety +2

    You rock, Zombie!

  • @daellymnaidel942
    @daellymnaidel942 Před 2 lety +6

    Great hold imo... about 6000% better than my holds.

  • @ralusek
    @ralusek Před 2 lety +5

    Nice vid. You're the best caster, IMHO, always very insightful. Most other casters seem to just be pulling stuff out of their ass.

    • @RamesGamesLC
      @RamesGamesLC Před 2 lety +1

      have you watched any professional casters? smh

    • @ChristopherCubbage
      @ChristopherCubbage Před 2 lety +1

      @@RamesGamesLC been watching since HOTS came out, she is one of the best, alot of the older ones sound very washed out these days

  • @jarenford9088
    @jarenford9088 Před 2 lety +2

    Cannon rush was not behind the mineral line which meant first cannon was out of range of the hatchery allowing it to finish and give her time to get static defense and zerglings out

  • @Carrotsalesman
    @Carrotsalesman Před 2 lety

    Lol, she refrained from saying "Wee Wee" then drops an F-bomb a minute later!
    Not a criticism, it's classic, loved it haha

  • @gordonggrey6548
    @gordonggrey6548 Před 2 lety

    This is so important. I’m so glad I saw this video.

  • @sherabaghera
    @sherabaghera Před 2 lety +1

    please remember to spawn more overlords

  • @matthewirizarry8467
    @matthewirizarry8467 Před 2 lety +2

    All these years later and protosses are still cannon rushing.

  • @natecw4164
    @natecw4164 Před rokem +1

    I've never seen someone ask that in a losing position lol

  • @ozijak
    @ozijak Před 2 lety

    What a badmannered way to end. Glad you held and thwapped them!

  • @baula338
    @baula338 Před rokem

    10:40 "queen walk" amazing

  • @aureliomanalo
    @aureliomanalo Před 2 lety +1

    Wild. Nice work.

  • @AudreyandmeAu
    @AudreyandmeAu Před 2 lety

    Nice one! Great content

  • @PandaRizzArg
    @PandaRizzArg Před 2 lety +2

    great game ! great defence! u were so chill at the cannonrush, its cool to watch

    • @virajkhatri7574
      @virajkhatri7574 Před 2 lety +1

      well she did call him a toddler, which isn't that chill. A real chill person would say absolutely nothing at all. She's still more chill than the average.

    • @ZombieGrub
      @ZombieGrub  Před 2 lety +19

      I didn't call my opponent a toddler. I assume you're talking about the beginning when I said "I can't hold all these toddlers"? That was about my lings/spines/queens/drones constantly moving. They were like toddlers trying to touch a hot stove (the cannons).

    • @stevendeherrera2240
      @stevendeherrera2240 Před 2 lety +2

      @@ZombieGrub I love your humor! the toddler comment had me rolling 🤣

    • @libertequeliberteque3521
      @libertequeliberteque3521 Před 2 lety +6

      @@virajkhatri7574 Time to say sorry to the lady lol

    • @virajkhatri7574
      @virajkhatri7574 Před 2 lety +4

      @@ZombieGrub oh, then I take it back lol

  • @gcl2783
    @gcl2783 Před 2 lety

    Came here to see cheese get eaten, and got the bonus keyboard layout information!

  • @conradvonbruno2917
    @conradvonbruno2917 Před 2 lety

    "you're not going to leave? Whatttt??"

  • @KeppyKep
    @KeppyKep Před 2 lety

    Ah the good old Voidray Overcharge vs Queens and Lings. Love it

  • @gene_Code
    @gene_Code Před 2 lety +6

    I like how calm u are handling that cannon rush. I'd give up

  • @Naim_less
    @Naim_less Před 2 lety

    I'm not sure why this was recommended to me, but I watched the whole thing. Your APM gave me an absolute nosebleed. Maybe this is why I play slower/turn-based Strategy games. You're clearly very good! I do love me some Zerg!!

  • @handsomemonkey9852
    @handsomemonkey9852 Před 2 lety +32

    Is that a legit thing? Trying to get wins by getting the other person to leave? TIL.
    That queen walk was sick, too bad you didnt need the nydus. Great pressure, great game!

    • @lickenchicken143
      @lickenchicken143 Před 2 lety +3

      ...legal? yes. Moral? no. legitimate?... no. Bad strats are bad. Bad strats that work are in the meta.

    • @SystemUpdate310
      @SystemUpdate310 Před 2 lety +2

      I think the rational behind this move was, that he thought ZG is a smurfing GM, that's why he was implying that it's an alt. If that would be the case, asking a smurfing GM not to rob your points is somewhat more understandable.

    • @Gwydion_Wolf
      @Gwydion_Wolf Před 2 lety +2

      @@SystemUpdate310 on the other hand... doing cheeze plays like that tends to be something you'd see in a GM match itself. So if he's complaining that he thinks a GM is on an Alt, who succesfully defended against a cheese strat you'd see used in a GM match.. then he's someone trying to 'act' like a GM himself.
      Now if she had obliterated a full on, true, attack with ease.. then i could see him giving that line. But not when its a case of him trying to use a cheese play for a easy win only to be blocked.

  • @Vindicator7777
    @Vindicator7777 Před 2 lety

    Played out of your MIND. Vwp.

  • @DavidMyrmidon
    @DavidMyrmidon Před 2 lety +1

    What was with the Heavy Void ray commitment? What a dum-dum..

  • @PepsiMagt
    @PepsiMagt Před 2 lety

    Nice hold. I always end up underpulling drones. You certainly didn't :)

  • @thezzach
    @thezzach Před 2 měsíci

    12:30 (spots Overseer) Hello… (Then seeing this jerk stubbornly not GG’ing) What is going to happen here? 😆🙌
    Wow I’m so impressed with ZG’s calm demeanor and brilliant gameplay. I need lessons in both.

  • @itsbiju
    @itsbiju Před 2 lety

    Great job! SC2 is still my favorite game.

  • @rommel_e_romero_alva
    @rommel_e_romero_alva Před 2 lety

    This was nice to see

  • @r.orwell1981
    @r.orwell1981 Před 2 lety

    Nice job!

  • @MrRufnek
    @MrRufnek Před 2 lety +2

    Wow! First time seeing ZombieGrub. Wow! I wish I had those skills. People that are good at StarCraft are from another planet. Real humans can't do this. I can't.

    • @RossRadikSherman
      @RossRadikSherman Před 2 lety +1

      It took me 10 years of playing SC2 to get to masters. I was still at gold with about 25 apm 3 years in. I slowly worked that up to an average 120 apm. I'm slightly over 150 when I'm try harding. Top players average over 300 apm.

  • @Centipede1600
    @Centipede1600 Před 2 lety +1

    That was extremely smooth game play by you.

  • @Nekhesh
    @Nekhesh Před 2 lety

    Very neat def

  • @KaliFortuna
    @KaliFortuna Před rokem

    I keep coming back to this video for the perfect thumbnail 😂

  • @marcomarin1196
    @marcomarin1196 Před 2 lety +8

    So cool, I hardly pull that many drones and go too early into roaches against cannon rush. Will limit to Drones, Lings and Spines from now on.

  • @brendonnel6631
    @brendonnel6631 Před 2 lety

    1st rule of defending any rush as zerg, keep calm.

  • @gabriel.hongkong
    @gabriel.hongkong Před 2 lety

    The dude lost one too many void rays

  • @MrBlorp-sf9ye
    @MrBlorp-sf9ye Před 2 lety

    I was so happy seeing that cheese get defended against
    Cathartic

  • @cloud999yt
    @cloud999yt Před 2 lety

    you're extremely skilled at this game lol your about probably 500x faster then i am lol i could barely understand let alone see what you were doing when you kept jumping between things so fast XD gg grats on the win too

  • @suboglacius
    @suboglacius Před 2 lety

    nice job pol a happy new year
    Beldin

  • @tylertasker9524
    @tylertasker9524 Před 2 lety

    Well done.

  • @robertv6628
    @robertv6628 Před 2 lety +1

    New to your channel and I'm here to stay subscribed

  • @y2kplus9
    @y2kplus9 Před 2 lety

    Lmfao, the audacity of that guy to ask for a mercy win after a failed cannon rush AND accusing you of smurfing in the same chat log. Just, wow. There really is no helping some people. Well played defense and counter! Very well done.

  • @tiaanmunnik
    @tiaanmunnik Před 2 lety

    *hears chiptune music in background*
    Oh, dang!
    *Follows on Twitch*

  • @Fenrir6Gaming
    @Fenrir6Gaming Před 2 lety

    I have no idea what just happened but, good for you! kick some ass lol

  • @VoyivodaFTW1
    @VoyivodaFTW1 Před 2 lety

    not entirely sure what they were expecting lol.

  • @ncavis
    @ncavis Před 2 lety

    Bad ass defense against a CRush!

  • @Purkinje90
    @Purkinje90 Před rokem

    Calling the lings toddlers is hilarious

  • @jdspencer60
    @jdspencer60 Před 2 lety +2

    Polgara - awesome name choice. David and Leigh Eddings rock

    • @petar.stoyanov
      @petar.stoyanov Před 2 lety

      I had to google to confirm if that's the way this character's name is written in English... Man, haven't read these in a long, long time...

  • @puck10114
    @puck10114 Před 2 lety

    I like how you did not exxagerate on spine crawlers against the rush

  • @rsanghi24
    @rsanghi24 Před 2 lety +2

    Eh, I didn't knew zg had a yt channel and first video i found out was a justice cheese defense, nice.

  • @LiezAllLiez
    @LiezAllLiez Před 2 lety +3

    "EZ clap", as the kids say these days.

  • @AlmightStick
    @AlmightStick Před 2 lety +1

    Ya know, kinda a compliment to have some one think your main is an alt... I think...

  • @Komlaa
    @Komlaa Před 2 lety

    That person had no shame xD

  • @QcSnowboard
    @QcSnowboard Před 2 lety

    I was about to reinstall sc2 but I changed my mind real quick after watching this.

  • @grays13371
    @grays13371 Před rokem

    fair play.

  • @Zemium1994
    @Zemium1994 Před 2 lety

    cheese so stinky that you want to leave but you didnt lool

  • @michaelhinkson6038
    @michaelhinkson6038 Před 2 lety +2

    At least he was nice about his whining. That's a welcome change.

  • @Wilde_Wolfe
    @Wilde_Wolfe Před rokem +1

    Wow Nice explaination of GG!

  • @MapHKid
    @MapHKid Před 2 lety

    lmao sick play

  • @buzzrot
    @buzzrot Před 2 lety

    Nice one

  • @jiayojames
    @jiayojames Před 2 lety +2

    These must be the same people that buy boosted accounts. I really can't understand the appeal of wanting a higher rating than your actual level. Like really what do they gain out of it except a painful ride back down?

  • @ThunderChanter
    @ThunderChanter Před 2 lety +19

    Jesus loves you, and if you love Jesus youll please leave the game please I need the mmr please leave

    • @JacobHedricklolwut
      @JacobHedricklolwut Před 2 lety +17

      Jesus loves you and he has placed a cannon in your natural

  • @Ornal64
    @Ornal64 Před 2 lety

    CZcams bring me here. Love to watch SC2 matches.

  • @-Smalltime-
    @-Smalltime- Před 2 lety

    BenImmortal builds zero immortals. No wonder he lost