Halloween II (2009) CUT COMPARISON
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As a nurse who works in a hospital.....I can neither deny nor support the claims of large piles of limbs being stored out in the open...
that's what the government wants you to say:P
What nurse has a CZcams name of 'Archangel of Death'? Quite ironic, isn't it? You're a nurse with the word death in their name also, you made a video of mortal kombat... That is very...deathly...
@@eyepatchlolz I may be a nurse but I am in my 20's and am an avid gamer. Plus I'm kinda into dark and edgy stuff so eh, there ya go. But yes I am aware of the irony
Archangel of Death I can tell that you’re a adult using words that no teen or kid would say
@@jesseplayz4681 they said they were 20
I saw a video of someone asking Brad Dourif at a panel how he emotionally prepared himself for the scene where he discovers Annie’s body. He didn’t say a word, and just pointed to the young woman sitting next to him at the panel. That woman was his daughter Fiona.
Jackie McCann wow that's so depressing but completely understandable. It's a great tool. You have a daughter just like your character does now I discover her dead body and now picture that it's my actual daughter. It's depressing but man is it effective. I mean look how broken he is. It worked. Even though I'm sure it did probably hurt him a little to do it
Holy crap just googled his daughter's name. Just found she was also nica from the last two chucky movies. Nice
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Yeah. If you play a character who's a parent and their kid gets killed then it's more natural to play if you're a parent and you think of how you'd react if your own kid got killed.
oml that is so sweet
Then Brad Douriffs character went onto a crime spree only to transfer his soul into a doll, thus cycle is complete.
YamiAnubisZX chucky connection nice
Sheriff turn into Criminal hmm~
Head canon accepted
And damn, is he also aging backwards?
Michael should never speak because it takes away from his fear factor and shows he is just human underneath the mask
Not speaking keeps him mysterious which he should be.
with Freddy and Jason, their movies explain how they kept coming back and being immortal-like beings
Michael at least is more human in the original movies compared to the later ones
I mean, that whole Thorn cult bullshit from 4-6 doesn't make any fucking sense and his retconed 'resurrection' in 8 is fucking terrible
Well humans are scary lol
They’re the monsters
Maybe the real monster was the friends we made along the way
I mean atleast it happens right before he dies to close off this 2 part story anyways. Quite fitting for this clearly very human version of Michael.
I like how he made Michael more human in the first but in the second one it was a little unnecessary, well a lot actually.
James I honestly appreciate you for your hard. You didn't just take that Patreon money (quit your job) and push out one video a week. You took this seriously and it absolutely shows. Just incredible work!
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Thank you for your support and love, Terrance!
Terrance S I agree
agreed *cough gradeAunderA*
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Terrance S
James fuckin loves his job and I’m sure that even without the patreon money he still would make videos
I gotta say, Sherriff Bracket is probably the most sympathetic character in the films. Dourif's acting always on point. But I like in the sequel, he seems like another father to Laurie. He genuinely cared about what happened to her & resents Loomis revealing her secrets & continuing to traumatize her just to make money. Even after his own daughter is murdered, he goes after Michael (surely to avenge Annie) but also to save Laurie. But Laurie is gunned down, which basically causes him to lose 2 daughters in 1 night.
I really wish it followed up with bracket more at the end
Brad doriff freaking killed that scene. People who disagree have either never witnessed or never experienced pure anguish. Tragic death of a love one is hard to wrap your mind around and he acted this park amazingly.
I have PTSD from trauma throughout my life and all I have to say is this, Laurie was super shitty to Annie at the dinner table even with the excuse of PTSD. They both went through almost the exact same experience and one of them came out with PTSD. That’s how it works. People’s minds process things differently and even the most minuscule details of an experience can change the effect it has on the other person. What happened that night was arguably worse for Annie, and it’s more than physically visible on Annie’s face. Permanent gashes/scars representing what happened to her that night. She tried to say something nice, supportive, and encouraging and Laurie went off on her. Even if someone said something to me that wasn’t helping but they were truly trying AND they went through such a similar experience to the one I went through I would just be thankful. Laurie can just look at Annie’s face to see what she has to live with everyday. Their trauma was literally intertwined and Laurie still couldn’t see that. Also in the Director’s Cut she’s just shitty to her all the time anyway. Laurie just kind of sucks in the Director’s Cut.
Yeah Laurie was definitely better in The Theatrical Cut.
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Just because you have PTSD doesn't mean every single person with it wll react the same way.
@@bigh99267 never even remotely said that. I said she was being a dick which she was. I said she can’t blame her trauma for it. There’s being irritable from trauma, then there’s just being a terrible person.
I agree! It made me hate Laurie in this movie. I felt so bad for Annie throughout the entire thing cause she was dealing with the exact same thing (up until Laurie finds out she is Michael’s sister). They handled it differently and both ways are realistic, sadly. People process trauma in so many different ways. It doesn’t make it right how Laurie treated Annie though. She only began to care about her well-being once she realized she could be hurt while Annie showed her compassion for Laurie from the beginning. 😩
yes the body dumpster is real every hospital has one it's call a smorgasmorgue.
Goddamit
Very clever!
Nice
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Those of you who are still skeptical where the hell do you think the dead feeling you get in the hospital comes from?
Ethanthropy Gamez ba-zinga
I really don’t know how I feel about Michael Myers talking at the end.
Or seeing his face. It seems wrong.
MrStGeorgeIllawarra 100% agree
@@MrStGeorgeIllawarra but... 2018???
I didn't really mind it. It was only one word and, if he's going to break his silence, he might as well do it right before killing Loomis.
Now, if it was more than one word and was to someone not as important as Loomis was in his life, then I would have had a problem with it.
its an incredibly interesting decision considering this was meant to be zombies "pure and unbridled vision"
Brad Dourif bad acting? The man has a Golden Globe and got nominated for a oscar...
That scene was painful and real.
Jay Mason clearly he’s never seen exorcist 3
Billy bibbet in one flew over the cuckoos nest
Probably the only good moment in an otherwise unbearably shit movie.
Maybe its just me but it kinda sounds like that scene from the office...
Jay Mason I can relate
Brad Dourif's anguish was well acted, best part of the movie
Nice joke
Please, it was like he was complaining about all the cleaning he’ll have to do later.
@SRS Art Productions not really, it's kinda funny
@T85 Rebooted Insinuating that I'm retarded yet you can't use the proper rode so here's a crash course.
Ride is the present tense
Rode is the past tense (what you were speaking of and used improperly as 'road')
Ridden is the past participle
Road is a paved path (usually gravel and asphalt) used for automotive vehicles, get schooled by "someone who *RODE* the short bus".
That was an embarrassing performance by Dourif. It made me laugh because of how bad it was. He's definitely not what he used to be.
Cut comparison is useful in understanding the movies more
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I am going to have a heart attack
James is the best you tuber his content is 100%
I agree
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I don't really like that Directors Cut ending. I don't like Michael talking, I don't like Michael without the mask, and I don't like him dying to a bunch of cops as opposed to the hands of Laurie. I think pairing the mental trouble of the directors cut with the psychotic killing ending of the theatrical cut for Laurie would have been more impactful, plus it makes the last asylum scene make a bit more sense.
I agree a little, but it is necessary for Laurie's arc that she be killed by the cops. And I think its fine for Micheal to speak to Loomis because that is a good payoff for when he stopped talking to Loomis in the first film.
Hearing Malcolm McDowell say "GET YO' ASS IN THERE" made me laugh way harder than it should have.
Man, the way the sheriff said "Oh no, Annie" really broke my heart and instantly made me cry.
I thought her death in the theatrical version was sad, but fuck, that one line made it hurt so much worse.
Same! Once I watched the director’s cut I was like HOW DID THEY MAKE THIS EVEN MORE SAD? 😩
I love these cut comparison videos
Oh dum bow
I'm just glad Brad Dourif's character didn't get killed
Brackett’s reaction to Annie was the most heartbreaking thing. I think it should have been in both cuts. I remember seeing this in the theaters and again afterwards which was the director’s cut. Her death is still sad to this day. Danielle Harris portrayed her so well it made me hate Laurie in this movie so much cause of how she treated her. 😞
Take a shot everytime someone swears in rob zombies Halloween franchise
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Jeff the killer good god man that’s been known to kill people
Or any of his movies for that matter
I did it. I'm writing this comment at a hospital :D
Cirrhosis of the liver
Annnnnnnnnnd dead
Last time I was this early, I wasn't awake.
I like memes
Bryan Egelhoff's Animation Tech Nation to bad were not early 😔
Last time i was this early i came out of my mom womb premature
Hol' up chief...this ain't addin' up
Now that the Halloween Kill count series is done. Maybe it’s time to see a one off kill count like Children of the Corn, or perhaps another series since Evil Dead will be out next month. Maybe like The Texas Chainsaw Massacre Series or the Psycho series on December, or perhaps Hellraiser in 2019.
I agree, but you’d be surprised how many awful Children of The Corn sequels there are
Yes!!! I would like to see Hellraiser or Texas Chainsaw Massacre
Maybe Final destanation...
Ultra75 I mean not that many people die in evil dead 1 and 2. Probably the most in army of darkness
I don't remember for sure, but i think he said hes doing evil dead next, I don't remember.
Rob Zombie's a strange director. For every stupid, poor-taste, highly-questionable bad decision he makes in his movies (naked dead girls, overly profane dialogue, unlikable over the top characters), he also does something really cool and interesting (that sound cutout in the Director's Cut climax here, the absolute size of Mikey Myers, the exploration of a Final Girl's ptsd). Every time he starts to lose me in his earlier films, he does something that pulls me back in. I guess that's why I can't bring myself to dislike him as a director: love it or hate it, he knows exactly what he wants to put on the screen and exactly how to put it there.
Pretty much. For me, his highs are good enough that I can accept the baggage that comes with him as a director, but I also understand every person who says they don't like or can't stand his films.
But the thing is the good stuff he does is so small compared to the bad stuff. Tha cutout during the climax is cool and his Michael Myers is a beast, yes, but that doesn't even balance out with the bad stuff.
Also, his fascination with sexual violence is so off putting to me. I dont know. He makes his films for himself and his fans, but that kind of seems to blind him almost.
Brad Dourif is an awesome actor and doesn’t get enough recognition outside of the horror world. His performance in Exorcist 3 and The X-Files is proof enough of his skills. Also, anyone who thinks his acting is bad when his character finds his dead daughter is insane.
You can’t forget his role as Wormtongue in the Lord of the Rings.
Don't forget Chucky
Why the hell is there 3 excorsits
have you seriously never heard of the open dumpster full of uncovered corpses???
BBLettuce low transport cost
Yea I can't believe they never heard of it
ayy wadd up
Seriously, I used to work in a hospital. I fell in that damn thing at least twice a day.
@@peateargryfin844 That's OSHA compliant? D:
3:12 “And you call yourself a man of the law?!”
That was hilarious. 🤣 🤣🤣
I can't take Brad Dourif's grief scene seriously anymore thanks to Michael Scott's "Oh God No" reaction from The Office.
I mean...they sound really similar.
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Grady Franco if you close your eyes when hearing it, think of chucky the doll screaming lol.
His NOOOOO!!! always makes me think of Chucky
+Grady Franco That's exactly what I thought the first time I saw Dourif's grief scene, which is the main reason why I could barely take that scene seriously, if not at all.
I don’t necessarily like the parts where he shows his face, but I do like the angry grunting noises he makes because to me it makes it more scary. Because it shows just how pissed off and insane that he is and he’s pretty much just giving off “I am going to fucking brutally kill you and there’s nothing you can do about it” energy. The silent but deadly Myers might be more scarier for some people, but for me it’s a lot scarier when he shows his anger.
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@@calebwinfield1403 you're basically forcing me to make the obvious joke... Are you happy now?
Me: Welcome to the kill cou-........Oh yeah
You didn't say welcome to the kill count James did
@@alextorres4667 I say the intro as well......just sayin
When the sheriff is going ape shit over his daughter's death, it is not bad acting or over the top acting or not acting enough. If someone was to walk into a room painted with their child's blood and her dead on the floor after you know what she went through and survived all the while she came out of that almost the same mentally only to be tortured again to be reminded of what happened to her before only to die this time would be rough, who knows how a person would react to that.
Fans: "Let Michael talk"
Michael: "DIE!"
Fans: "Close enough, we love it!"
I love this this
Oh my I was sad how ann
I want to 😢 nooooo[ooooo
I honestly felt like it's unnecessary for Michael to talk I don't like it sorry Rob Zombie I know that you don't care about what I think about your films.
Fans wanted Michael to talk?????? In what universe???
That's actually oddly appropriate for Michael. It's like he felt that Loomis was the only person who had earned the honour of hearing his voice since Loomis had looked after him for all those years. I think it was Michael's sick way of saying "thanks for watching over me, dude. See you in hell."
NekoWhiteStar no one wants Michael to talk lmaoooo
OMG 9:04 kind of sounds like Michael Scott from the office
Righttt, I was thinking the same shit 😂
The "GOD NO! PLEASE, GOD NO!" Guy?
Ghost Z yes . From the office
Best addition is those little danielle harris clips. Such a good throwback to old halloweens
YO JAMES, I've been watching your vids for a while and its taken me forever to pinpoint what I really like about your style! I learned in one of my public speaking classes that when making a presentation you have to do 3 things: Tell them what you're going to tell them, Tell them, then tell them what you told them. You follow this formula to a T and I think it makes your videos really stick with the viewer! So keep up the great work man, I'm glad you were able to stick it through all these Halloween movies, even the not so great ones lol
Sorry James Im late
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This movie catches a lot of hate but I love it. The idea that Laurie has a psychic link with Michael really added to her going crazy by the end. Her reacting to him eating the dog while she’s eating pizza creeps me out, and it makes so much sense that she sees his visions and becomes plagued by them. I had never considered that she is dead at the end, and although I really like that scene of her in the mask and the subsequent cut to her in the sanitarium, I much prefer she lives in my head canon.
But rob zombie tries to take this realistic brutal approach to the series and then decides to add a psychic link to the mix? How is that realistic? How does that make sense?
It's just weird and confusing. If the point is that trauma (external factors) drives people insane, then he did a terrible job conveying such.
I think this movie deserves the hate it gets, honestly. Ive watched it so many times, especally after the recent ones came out and i find more issues every time.
It's the worst installment imo. The kills aren't even that interesting. Annie's death is the only kill that made me feel something.
Laurie's personality differences are incredible! It's almost as if they're not even the same person! She's like Jekyll and Hyde!
@@nicks288 well, yeah, I was meaning based upon the cut comparisons
The director's cut ruins the already despicable characters. Never have I rooted for Michael more.
Rule #1: Never have Michael speak.
Rule #2: Never show Michael's face in the open .
Rule #3: Never make Michael into a hobo.
Conclusion: Zombie did all three, ouch.
He did ok it was unique and he has the scariest michael
The only thing I disagree with is the second rule. We saw a glimpse of Michael's face in the original, when he was portrayed by a different actor. Given that, I would technically count that as having his face shown, even if it was in shadows. I'm sure with enough editing, you could brighten the scene enough to make it out clearly. If you have the right circumstance, I'm sure it could be just as scary or creepy. Admittedly, it works better WITH the mask and not without, but yeah.
Rules are meant to be broken, the original is still there if you want it
We see Michael's face in the VERY FIRST Halloween film.
@@jazzwebster9851 I think he means when he wears the mask after he gets older. We normally see the faces when they're kids, but it's when they develop into adults that the masks hide them.
The scene where the sheriff was crying hit me hard. I know what it's like to lose something you love, and his reaction was very similar to what I did.
Mikey looks like a wastelander wearing a scarecrow mask in Rob Zombie's Halloween 2... And when he was unmasked, he looked like Jesus... Evil Jesus...
So...The Devil?
AceGamer/ The Ultra Gamer! Lucifer also has long hair and a beard like Jesus?
@@JohnDonovan1968 possible...
U mean evil Unreasonably buff Jesus
The Anti-Christ?
Final Destination series please!!!!!!
FACTS
10:46 michels first words
“You call yourself a man of the law??”
😂 nice one James!
Please do Final Destination Franchise next PLEASEEEEEE
he is doing the evil dead francise next
I agree
Yeah
He did them
@@donaldtusk2678 10 months later he did it😂
*Gasp*"And you call yourself a man of the law!"😂😂😂😂😂😂
These Cut Comparisons are really cool. Keep up the good work
I don’t think it matters which version you watch, Laurie survives in both versions. Because there were initially plans for a third Rob Zombie Halloween movie where Laurie was stalked by Michael Myers in the sanitarium. It would’ve title “Rob Zombie’s Halloween 3D”.
I love both your RHPS quotes and the time and effort you put into making these Kill counts even the extra time to make the cuts between the directors cut and theatrical cuts. Keep up the hard work and I'm glad you have gotten so far in doing these I love watching them!
Have a great Halloween Mr. James A. Janisse! 🔪❤️😊🎃🎃🎃
Thank you, happy Halloween!!
Dead Meat Your Welcome! Happy Halloween to you too. 🎃🎃
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Why, what's wrong with it?
You owned a car for 4 years. You named it Brad. You loved Brad. And then you totaled him. You two had been through everything together. 2 boyfriends, 3 jobs, nothing could replace Brad. Then Liberty Mutual calls, and you break into your happy dance....
Lol
I hate that commercial. it is like the only thing that plays when I turn on the tv
The takeaway from that commercial is that woman is fickle af, and she'll gladly drop you for a fat wad of cash.
The whole time I was reading this I was thinking "how do I know this........why is this so familiar" Haha thank you!
I heard her voice in my head lol
I didn't think I was going to care much for this line of videos but I find myself sitting through and enjoying them quite a lot. Very well done sir
I've absolutely loved Brad doruif's acting since exorcist 3 super underrated movie
Brad Dourif rocks in this!! Well, he pretty much rocks in everything....
When you realise you have the theatrical cut on dvd. 💰💰💰
Maybe Brad's reaction to Annie s death just feels out of place since it's the only sold bit of acting in this film. It rips my heart out every time I see it
When the dad found his daughter dead and you can hear him I had to put down my food and cry. Whoever said that his acting is bad that is what I imagine someone would go through at a time like that which made me cry
just amazing
thanks James!
These cut comparisons are awesome! I can’t wait for more in the future 😀
I think James missed the whole reference of Brackett’s dialogue when Annie died. It’s clearly a reference to the opening of Child’s Play as he shouts after Eddie Caputo leaving him to die
3:21 “and you call yourself a man of the law” lol that made me giggle 😂😂
If i didn’t kno any better I would think this is an AD for teeth whiting cause how white James teeth are. DAMN SON
Dr. Barbara (played Margot Kidder) played Barb in Black Christmas
I love the cut comparisons as I hadn't even released there were alternate versions to some of these films. You learn somethin new everyday
This movie is shocking just watched it the other day lol, the mother is more of a villain in the movie than Michael Myers just looks like some random hobo
NightmareEntity I can’t find the movie anywhere
YO GIRL JAYLAH your not missing much
Holy shit.
I just realized the whole ghost mom shit is basically the Man in Black from Halloween 5-6 all over again. Dumbass character that appears out of nowhere to outstage Michael Myers to explain his motivation that was never supposed to be explained in the first place.
Thank god, the series got back in track with Halloween 2018, and Sartain was made as a middle finger to the whole concept.
That also make Michael more like Jason (listen to his mother and more brutal kill)
At 6:25 check out the secret message on the eye testing chart
*FUCKED*
@@aaronm4858 under the UC is KED
FUCKED PEARS and the rest is too blurred. Damn i need glasses.
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I just recently found this channel. But so far, I love it
2 years is more interesting because it makes the attack more unpredictable. 1 year after a traumatic event on a holiday you are ON EDGE all night. She would be paranoid. But after a year of safety, it makes sense that everyone around her is trying to calm her down.
I hadn't seen the theatrical since 2009. Like most people, I only bought the more widely avaliable directors cut. However, I recently caught the theatrical via streaming. For the most part, I enjoyed the theatrical waaay more. I jumped online and ordered it right away. It was only availiable as a two pack with the RZ Halloween theatrical cut.
why would they make the endings so different from each other?
Lots of movies do multiple endings. The Theatrical one probably played better to test audiences, but Rob Zombie probably intended the "Laurie dies" ending to be the real one when he wrote it.
Test audiences and studios have changed endings radically before. One thing lots of people seem to have constant problems with are tragic/downer endings.
@@thehitherto5348 Some people just don't understand that a "tragic" or "sad" ending can actually be the best ending for a movie.
Reminds me of the different endings to Army of Darkness. One ending is the one we're all familiar with, where Ash manages to return to his time. The other ending, though... not so much.
Y not
Quick as hell best horror movie reviewer
Awesome work again! You're my favorite new channel that I found this year.
Thanks to videos like that tell us exactly the difference of the two cuts. I couldn't tell expect the ending part... I honestly think that halloween 2009 is almost or is the best one in the franchise.
James you are my favorite youtuber ive been watchong since you had 30K subs and i was like this dude needs more subs and then when you hit 100K subs i was do happy for you i watched every single killcount if you see this i just want to say you are the best and keep it up
"I'm just kidding, I can dance however much I want."
Is it me, or does the director's cut stuff with Laurie fit the theatrical ending much more? Foreshadowing her being like Michael is kind of pointless when she never ends up becoming like Michael at all and then gets gunned down. It would be one thing if the final vision implied that she survived and is now driven to kill by her mother and the white horse, but I think Rob Zombie confirmed that she died and even did that ending just so that this series would no longer continue. It's an unnecessarily confusing final note that works better with the theatrical cut's prelude of her walking out in the Myers mask.
I never thought of that but it actually makes sense.
I really appreciate the cut comparisons.
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS VIDEO SINCE since well, yesterday
Yea man thanks for your hard work and all that iditting its real nice
Something about your delivery of *gasp* "And you call yourself a man of the law?" is just... I just love it!
Love cut comparison please keep it going
It’s cool cause I was watching a video of Rob Zombie explaining the ending and it he says the directors cut, when love hurts plays and when she’s in the white long room, it’s supposed to represent her final thoughts, and when her mom comes, she smiles cause she’s finally done with her crazed life.
How has no one talked about how 10:06 is a reference to Drake and Josh when James said “Hug me brother!”
this is such a messy film but its my favorite in the franchise other than the original, i love how he just did exactly what he wanted, like its excessive and deeply flawed but so much more interesting than any of the other sequels and has some genuinely interesting stuff it plays with.
As a Canadian, I've totally only watched the Theatrical version on DVD. So this video had really opened up my eyes!! Thanks James!!!!
I like the cut comparison. IT is dope as hell. I like it
Lmao "thanks practical set james"😂
I really love James this channel is amazing hope it lasts for ever it's so fun and great and if I don't want to rent anything on Halloween or not on Halloween I have DEAD MEAT !!!
Never change you intro. Seriously it’s the best opening ever
Brad Dourif’s acting is amazing
Sheriff coffee joke killed me, the only thing that can prevent me from laughing is if you flex tape my head:)
Keep up the good work man for real you are good at what you do
can you pls do more cut comparisons I luv them so much
This is the same way I felt about this all these years . Glad I’m not the only one who knows . Theatrical is better but can’t hardly ever find that version
Anyone who said they think Dourifs reaction to finding his daughter dead, has never seen someone's initial reaction when an immediate family member passes away
James you do such great work! Never miss a video
youre my favourite youtuber. i watch all of your streams and wish i could donate in the future! with love from aus
So basically we wont get another Halloween "Kill Count" until January of 2019? Shit. This was one of the best series to have watched James! Woo!
I actually found that Blu-Ray of the theatrical versions at an FYE recently.
Where the fuck do they have one of those
@@Bgdk The one I went to was in Pensacola.
can't wait for the Ranking video , it's been so LONG
I just found your channel excellent work takes a lot of hard work to do these things great job