How to Get a Job as a Famous Tennis Chair Umpire
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Have you ever noticed how the same handful of chair umpires seem to be at EVERY tennis match? What makes them special? What does it take to get THAT job? Today we’re unravelling all the secrets behind the long path one must take in order to officiate at the highest level of professional tennis, including everything you’d want to know about pay, travel, logistics, and the surprising number of scandals and controversies uncovered regarding the sport’s biggest behind the scenes officials that have had the ability to threaten the integrity of professional tennis as a whole.
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I’d pay to see Rodger Federer as a chair umpire overseeing a match between 2 actual chair umpires.
It would be a disaster.
@@ahmadzahraniAAZ I know but it be fun to watch.
@@Jamsome59 yep
Roger*
Even on a tennis video .. persona fans are really everywhere
Damn, now that I learned how much Carlos Ramos earned in that Williams-Osaka final, have even more respect for him. He took on Serena's slander under home crowd pressure and has made every right call that day, and could've easily went "f*ck it, it's not worth it".
Just goes to show money is not the unique great motivator it's cracked up to be.
Too bad a good umpire like him was cancelled due to an entitled 40 years old woman acting like a teenager, and a whole brainless, virtue-signalling crowd of social justice warriors.
It's really a pity.
It was not the first time Carlos Ramos behaved controversially in a Grand Slam final. In the 2014 Australian Open final, he broke the rules when he refused to tell Stan Wawrinka the reason for Nadal's medical time-out. He should be banned from umpiring Grand Slam finals way before the 2018 US Open final.
No matter what anyone says, Serena earned every code violation she received in that US Open final...
Indeed
Not true! She's a mother! 🙄
Actually the coaching warning was not earned, ramos has been seen given silent warnings for coaching. Thing he didnt even give serena. Should have been a soft warning then a warning penalty.
@@dennisvillaflor3359 Her coach said after the match that it was coaching, what are you on about?
@@boskodelic8907 that isn’t what he said. He said Ramos didn’t give her a soft warning like he has to other players before.
Holy sh*t the pay comparison between Serena and the umpire... I mean, of course the umpire gets payed a lot less, but equivalent to a single SECOND of play??? Celebrity super salaries are almost unrealistic in scale.
Also makes Serena look even worse. Constantly screaming at judges making nearly nothing for their time, potentially costing them their job, before turning around and constantly overestimating herself and saying she doesnt get paid enough for doing both as a full time job
I just love how disproportionately money is spread across the pyramid (the pyramid could be of anything)
Well, unlike us, they had the talent to perform at a high level of sports and draw in thousands of people who are willing to pay to watch them play. There are a lot of important people involved, but just because they are important, doesn’t mean they will get the money proportional to their importance. Unlike star athletes, they can be replaced, and what humans value generally depends on how hard it is to replace.
@@melt6894 Sure, good point. I'm just awestruck by the scale of celebrity-athletes' fortunes.
(and maybe by how celebrity/enternainment is such a high-value commodity, but that's a deeper discussion)
You know her clothing line couldn't even sell in target.....cant give the crap away
I feel really bad for Ramos... The outrage that followed that match was complete BS. Serena going on and on about her being a role model for her child and whatnot was just embarrassing.
Tell me about it. Anyone who can separate facts from feelings would be able to see that there was no indication of the discrimination she accuses him of. If she's still trying to sell that lie, that just makes her look narcissistic.
@@JiraiyaSama86 Oh most definitely. And there were a lot might I say most sports "analysts" who sided with Ramos. Albeit most of them were completely clueless about tennis and were only discussing it because well, it was Serena their iconic American player. It is unbelievable that many people sided with her though. The second someone screams discrimination, there is always a large group of SJWs who will blindly side with the "victim" before even looking at the context.
Completely agree. Immediately pulled the sexist card and of course the media threw in the race card. It was ridiculous he was removed.
It seems to me that it had all to do with patriotism, Serena being American. And the sexism card was a cover up because of course you can't say that we side with her because she is American
Lol why would you. Denis shapovalov was being coached by youzhny, and ramos did not give him a penalty but rather a soft warning to tell his box to stop. He also give kenin a soft warning for coaching. But with Serena its an immediate penalty. He should be investigated for his actions. He likes to insert himself with the big name guys, to show his balls.
Being fired for making an interview. I still can't believe that happened to Steiner.
I'm sure there's more to that story, but sadly we won't ever know
I think more than the interview itself, is that he revealed his preference for who he wanted to win. Perhaps getting fired over that is too much, but what he did was definitely a huge mistake.
@@Balfour. You could be right, usually when someone gets canned for a seemingly "innocent mistake" they have had prior incidents.
their pay is so low...........corruption incoming
Its out of order, if any top grand slam manager read this take 1% of the latter stages prize pot out and reward them properly ffs!
its so not fair
I'm sure it's better than my pay currently. I wouldn't complain.
@@kevincollins8620 yeah but for 10+ years of perfect work and with the amount of money the matches they are judging generate im sure they could afford to pay them more that 80k a year
@@PodcastClips____ maaan 80k is FIRE.
Always wanted to know this. Great insight and research man!
Hey it's Andrew!
I was hoping for Kenobi, why are you here??
Can we please take the time to appreciate Cult Tennis's insane editing skills.
How much time do you take to edit a video?
Im early Cult Tennis can you please respond?? :)
2-3 days of research, script, and recording. 7-10 days to edit. About 9-13 days total on average, glad you like it! :)
@@CULTTENNIS What do you use to edit?
@@CULTTENNIS u are literally right because I’ve seen the same empire at AO, Miami, Monte Carlo, Rome, Madrid, Roland-Garros, Queens Club and Wimbledon this year.
Ramos should have sued for slander or deformation and personal damages against both William's and any media outlet that slandered him for doing his job correctly
I hear ya. Essentially what Serena did was play the victim using one of those " political cards". If you watch Greg Doucette vs. Chef Rush, (completely unrelated to tennis) it's a similar thing. It can't be that they did something wrong. So they make it seem like the other person must be using some form of discrimination.
Doing his job correctly lol. So why did he give shapovalov and kenin soft warnings.
@@dennisvillaflor3359 and what do your examples prove?
@@dennisvillaflor3359 He entitled this is all about Tennis umpiring science. A few years back Federer cursed right on international TV at the US open nothing was done not even a fine. It is again about Tennis umpiring science. After all that no one got hurt. Keep the ball out of your court!
the warning for coaching is "valid" but unfaire, we see it at every GS match player being coachted and not having any warning. I dont know his motive to take that "cocky" mouve, but it wasnt "integrity" motivated for sure. Otherwise we would see multiple warning at every GS
2:55 You may be surprised, but "LMAO GET F*****" is official tennis terminology
Can you explain context and what does it mean?
I remember using a carpooling service to get to another town, similar to Uber, but literally anyone can drive.
The guy who was driving me (and 2 other passengers) was actually a Tennis Chair Umpire and was on multiple grand slams.
It was corona season so he had no serious jobs and was driving there to just to be the "umpire" on a kids game for free.
He was cool, talked about rock and metal, life in general, it's cool to remind yourself that even those umpires are humans too.
His voice is so soothing in not a weird way
There needs to be a petition to bring Ramos back to GS finals because he is an excellent umpire.
I'll be disappointed if he doesn't umpire a grand slam final in the next year
He's known for being harsh and a stickler for the rules who isn't afraid to go after stars, hence why he's punished Serena, Nadal, and Djokovic for minor infractions many umpires would let go
But wouldn't you want an umpire who follows the rules as closely as possible to govern the most important game of one of the 4 most important tournaments?
@@Trepur349 It's the same reason NHL allows athletes to punch the living daylights out of each other every now and then. It's entertaining and thus drives more audience. If the sanctity of the sport was important then sure following the rules as closely as possible would be preferable but instead the rules give way whenever following them strictly would hurt the viewing experience.
10:26 My answer is NO. An umpire is too busy dealing with a ton of possible simultaneous factors, in and off court. A ball boy, a line judge, a front row spectator, you name it - it's not too hard finding someone in a privilieged spot who's probably enjoying the show much more than an umpire.
$ 70-80k per year !! For this type of job where you're one of the elite umpires and still get paid like peanuts compared to tournament winner.
And I used to think that umpires like Lahyani, Ramos etc used to earn at-least in the range of 400-500k per year.
I think it’s a tough job. Jet lag, constant travel, player abuse, media pressure , no support from ITF lol
I know that people wouldn't agree with me but given a choice I wouldn't do this type of job with so less remunerations.
By the way, awesome video and a great job !!
No body would do dis job , ofcourse everyone other than 1% would agree with you.
Man, I was a timekeeper for an adult amateur hockey league, and that was already a lot of pressure. There's no fucking way I'd be an umpire. Especially with regards to the terrible job security and egregiously low pay.
I knew it was tough, but my goodness I didn't know it was *THAT* difficult 😮
Once he said you must have 2020 vision my dream was crushed
Well, he didn't specify whether that was natural or corrected. If the latter and you're a candidate for something like LASIK or PRK, you might have a shot.
@@fredleggett923 Correct!!
@@fredleggett923 He referred to the 2020 year, which was disastrous...
My problem is my adhd. I cant focus on anything for more than a few seconds.
Yeah, it must suck to not have the opportunity to...
_checks notes_
earn barely more than an average paycheck, having to bounce around the world on your own money and have minimal job security or alternative careers using your skills after getting fired.
10:25: No I would not do it. Work part time and having to hold another job for 10 years before you become a full time employee for $70,000 BEFORE taxes and living expenses and always in danger of then losing your job in a world JUST FOR BEING ACCUSED of "sexism" or "racism" is NOT worth it.
Feels important to acknowledge that the 20/20 vision requirement includes 20/20 corrected vision! So even folks with awful vision like myself can be certified as long as we have 20/20 vision with glasses/contacts!
Really?😍😍
Honestly that level of stress and 10 years of maintaining a skill that is under appreciated they should get paid way more.
I dont even know how i noticed it but the court shown at 5:39 belongs to the club in which i play. Its TC Harland in Austria
This is the level of competency I wanted in youtube channels regarding tennis which I hardly find.
Subscribed in a heartbeat. Walk on this same track you are travelling .
I feel bad for Ramos. Lahyani is my favorite umpire though :)
Your videos are impeccable!
This cant be an unpopular take. One of the best video makers and youtubers out there. Always so excited when i see a new vid
I swear I’ve always wanted this explained to me! Great idea for a video!
In my place, to chair local amateur matches gets around USD8.00 per hour. It usually takes you a weekend with 8 to 10 hours each day. You would get paid when you are in the venue whether you are in the chair or not. You usually chair less than 6 matches each day. If you compare the amount of work and the play level of the local amateur matches with grand slam matches, the chair umpire in grand slams are seriously underpaid.
The quality of this man's video is insane. How does he do it??
This video is so high quality for the channel size, nice work man
You put more effort into this video than I did on my thesis. Keep it up man!
yes. i was getting tired (not really) of rewatching all of your videos three times over
You save my day with a New video
They are incredible mate great job!!
Ok I gotta tell you... I don’t know how the algorithm got me here but I’m so thankful it did!
I have watched so many of your videos; truly binge-worthy. I am not interested in tennis usually but through your storytelling and editing I’m actually interested in tennis now. Well-done.
Man, amazing content you create. Thanks! keep it up!
Your videos always touch such interesting topics. Great quality. Love this channel!
Top notch content! Thank you very much! I’m a volleyball ref who was asked to be a bit more ambitious to maybe get into the international stage, but thinking to stop playing myself and deal with high pressure situations like that, i said “no thanks”
This is by far the best tennis channel out there!
Great video man, your Videos are always a blessing
Very informative. Thank you so much. I used to chair-um inter-school matches when I was in high school. That was on clay in the days of wooden rackets/early composite. It was tough even with the much slower ball speed of the day. Kudos to the chair-um's of today.
Amazing video!! As usually!! Plz do one for Dustin Brown
The production value on this video is insane; i dont even really watch tennis but this vid is incredible
Another awesome video as always! I was surprised at how much money an umpire could make, for I thought it would be higher. To answer the question about being a chair umpire, I wouldn't do it. Yeah, the view is the best in the house, and having a gold badge gives you the best chance to officiate top matches. However, I couldn't enjoy the match like a spectator due to the duties you mentioned in the video. I'd have to be as sharp as a knife by paying attention to every detail during the match, let alone doing that for hours. The chair umpire is essentially a leadership position, which can be stressful to fulfill, occasional injuries aside (that eye hit Arnaud Gabas took during Shapovalov's 2017 Davis Cup match - ouch!). Still, it's good to see that people are willing to take that position.
Such a great informative video! You just gained a new sub.
Awesome videos man! I love this channel
Ive hust discovered your channel and its the best
i don’t ever watch tennis yet i find your videos fascinating, bravo
These vids are so great keep up the good work
I've never played tennis once in my life, but watched every second of this video!
What a crazy premise for a video
I like it
I didn’t know the Pokemon legend Verlisify liked tennis, the more you know I guess.
Great coverage.
Great video! You always come up with the best ideas!
And I have so many more :)
@@CULTTENNIS That's great to hear! Looking forward to watch them
Hopefully this gets up to a million subscribers, we need this stuff to grow the community, thanks for the content
This was so good it led to that rarest of CZcams events, the one-video subscribe
Very nice video 👍 with a funny and cool ending!
Wonderful video as always
That Shapovolov Joke really made me tear up. Just like the guy who got hit. I wonder if Denis wrote him an apology rap track?
That would be more hurtful than a forehand hit I guess
I watch your videos so see how snappy your after effects are, not super complicated but solid and slick.
That quiet please at 1:01 brought me back. A lot back
This mans editing skills are violently TOP LEVEL!! Keep it up brother!
Man i always cant wait for ur vids
This is by far the best tennis channel on CZcams
Owh ! The GOAT Of Tennis Channels Appears Again! Bless This Month :P
At 5:39 simply our tennis court 😅
I still remember the classes to get my USTA umpire certification. Then, helping umpire high school tournaments, college matches, etc. Most of the time, you only go to a court if the 2 players can't get along and argue about calls constantly so it's usually a pain and neither will agree with the umpire's calls by then haha.
It was cool though to see your name in the USTA umpire listing book that comes out every year, hehe.
Nice video!
Another banger as always
This is such a great channel
Wow! Great content! Definitely subbing now!
Holy shit, this channel has insane production quality! It's going to blow up in no time!
Damián Steiner is now the director of the Arbitrators Department of the argentinian tenis association (AAT). So basically he grabbed the interviews money which, according to this video, might be better than umpire money, and he got to work from his home country and stay with his family. He won.
great editing!
I've been waiting for a new video 😜
I barely watch tennis nor play it, but I love watching these great videos!
It's ridiculous how little the umpire gets paid compared to a grand slam winner's pay-check.
and just other jobs with those levels of stress and hardship. Traveling constantly is bad enough for your mental health before throwing in the international scrutiny. Premier league refs get £100,000+ a year and many NFL, NBA, ect. refs get over $200,000+ a year.
Great vid
Love your content
The edits are so good
Mohamed Lahyani is the exception, obviously, I mean, everyone know and loves this guy
I actually have a couple of favourite umps! Nouni, Asderaki, Lahyani, and Bley! Always good to see them umpiring important matches
I love love love how u almost never fail to mention the 2019 Wimbledon final
NICE VIDEO!
It’s always a good day when cult tennis makes a video
Always a beautiful day when cult tennis posts a video
Could you make a video about the UTS, it's rules, prize, goals....
I met Bernardes in Bergamo and he’s very chill and friendly
hell yes cult tennis! loved this video man keep it up. I hope balboat or wilson start sending you some $$$$
I am a simple man: I see Cult Tennis video, I click and I like. 👍🏻
PS: Btw, poor Ramos who received tons of hateful comments & unfair treatment for just doing his job.
Hey great video! Do you know why Chair umpires aren’t allowed to look at replays? Thx
So good....inside tennis. Next One should be how to be a referee at grand slam level. Id also like to see one on player amenities: food, physio, hotel accommodation
Excuse me but can you please do one about Aslan Karatsev
omg that level 12 vanilla chair umpire beat stick XD with the flavor text
I love Sunrise Biscuit. I sense a UNC link with that and the UNC college match
Could you please do a video about familiar tennis commentators from the ATP WTA and ITF?
I think Nouni has switched from WTA to ATP this year, already saw him on 2 ATP tournaments this year
This is awesome. In a covid world however, the line call system once again has been possibly altered forever. Can’t argue with a robot calling lines. When players challenge now, they are almost always wrong
You need to do a video on the effect of coaching on pro tennis players. Or at least the effect of a good tennis staff around a player.
Tennis in general is a very low rewarding sport for most players and umpires. It’s a thankless sport in comparison to how much sweat and tears is required to invest in order to succeed.
Tennis is about Love and Ego.
tennis players earn a lot of money, it's not low rewarding...
@@netaneltannhauser8888 only the ones at the top of the mountain..others struggle to even make ends meet.
A unique tennis CZcams channel.
Nice Video