The Harsh Reality Behind How Much Tennis Players Make
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We all know that the likes of Federer, Nadal, and Djokovic make more money than we could ever dream of spending, but have you ever wondered what some of the lower ranked guys make? Is the 100th ranked player wealthy? Does the 1000th ranked player earn enough money to pay rent? And how much does it cost for a player to travel the world playing tournaments? We answer all those questions, and many more, in today's episode dedicated to two very important aspects of life: Tennis and Money.
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Did you just compared Black to White tennis players? And how White tennis players are more privileged than Black tennis players.
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Amusing that you showed 4 pics of Ernests Gulbis as an example of players to be pitied; the guy is a trusttund millionaire 😀 . . . .
A que deporte o actividad, oficio o profesion no aplica este video?
Its funny how most people view a 100 ranked player as a failure when in reality he is extremelly succesful globally speaking
So unfair..
@Jcorb I wouldn't say "extremely successful" as beeing top 100 of your country wouldn't give you a chance to have a career in tennis. You would be super good at tennis tho
@Jcorb I think the point of the original coment was that beeing top 100 in the world is having a successful tennis career. Contrary to that, been top 100 of your country is nowhere near to having a successful career
@@oatsgoats39 just because you think someone is overhyped does not mean you are racist...
Being a 100 ranked player is no joke. Only couch potatoes look down upon them.
People don't realise just how important the Grand Slams are for lower ranked players in order for them to continue their career. Even making it into qualifying can turn around a players career temporarily.
Ya that's true. I wish the lower ranked players were highlighted more in the media's eye. Even a player ranked around 80 or so, even though they're making a good living, nobody really cares about them
@@icebear326 I agree. Everyone on center court when a qualifier is playing Federer doesn’t realize that beating him would literally be life changing for him
@@HarryJohnson69 i mean even losing to roger could earn them a ton of money
Someone like Tsonga who made the 08 Oz Open final as an unseeded player probably allowed him to continue pounding around even in 2020
is it possible for professional tennis to change its format?....like from being a tour format into a league where players don't need to travel to one place to another in order to compete.....I think the present tour format is a big disadvantage for this sport....many talented individuals would shy away from it and just choose other sports like football or basketball
Respect to the 1700th rank guy for grinding towards his goals!!
So sad to be called the "1700th rank guy".
ayy
Novak talks about this problem very often. It's so hard for players outside top 200.
Novak wants to slide more prize money towards lower tournaments and more money towards first rounds.
Thats why Novak together with Vasek Pospisil and Milos Raonic created the Players-only union PTPA, Propessional tennis players association, because of that problem. Novak has concern to the low ranking players.
@Ryn Shane-Armstrong I do not understand why the constant greed.
I would be more than happy to have like, $100.000 right now for my achievements so far in career. I could invest most of the money, save some, and waste some, start off a business, still work, but be happy nevertheless..
$1.000.000 ? Sure. Not working a day more.
$10.000.000 ? Lmaowtf I am now a charity man.
These people have I believe, hundred of million at least (career money, sponsor money...)
@Ryn Shane-Armstrong Imagine this in Serbia (where Novak Djokovic, Jelena Jankovic, Ana Ivanovic etc are from)...
Most people work for like $300/month.
It has been mentioned numerous times how much has Novak's father invested into Novak. He went into debt with some usurers/loan sharks at some point because he believed in his son.
@Ryn Shane-Armstrong Ana trained in an empty swimming pool...
Think it was Dustin Brown who used to travel in a van and sleep in it during his early days.
It was! And he used to string rackets for just about everyone, including opponents.
What a goat. I play at a lot of Spikeball tournaments and no one makes nearly enough money to not lose money on average. All about the love of the sport
@@thebigsquirrel50 Man you are everywhere! 👍
wow!!
yeah his dad bought him the van.
OH SO HE HAS SPONSORS NOW
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@@CULTTENNIS There are plugins where we can skip them now.
@@daddywax254 he gets payed either way, I doubt he cares
@@myamdane6895 What's "payed"?
@@mr.squidward9936 payed by the sponsor
This is why you have a lot of retired young tennis players. They just don't have the budget to carry on.
And now switching to pickleball.
@andreasmissiroli definitely, yes, luck is never a big part of it, as we all know... Smh how can you be so naive ?
@andreasmissiroli lol get triggered. Luck is a part of everything. Where you are born, you base physical abilities, what will happen to you. All is ruled by randomness
@andreasmissiroli yo no need to scream dude. And yes, these people had the motivation, and most of the time had the luck to be noticed by someone important enough to make them climb the ladder. The thing is, there are tens if not hundreds of thousands of people like all of these you mentioned, who were about as talented as them, and never got the chance to show their worth. This is due to luck.
@andreasmissiroli what I'm saying is that s tonne of people did the same kind of bold decisions as the people you mentioned, but who eventually failed to break though due the randomness of events not being with them.
As a former Professional Tennis player, I can tell you that you nailed it!!! That’s exactly how our sport works... however, you missed out on club tournaments and DavisCup earnings:) I was around 150 to 300 player and with sponsorships and Club + DavisCup made a decent leaving:)
Interesting! I should have taken those into account, thanks for sharing!
“Former professional tennis player” -magnificent fortnite
Thank you for the information Mr. fortnite
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I just saw an interview of Rublev, where he said the costs of his coach and physio are about 600.000 per year, and the coach gets 10% of his prize money
That's the price to be a top 10 player
10 percent seems pretty low normal, if coach is really helping you to improve and win something, and year is long period, its also probably included with coach expenses like he travels with you you dont need to pay nothing else for him just what you mentioned
$600,000?! That’s insane
I don't think those numbers are right
@@ericmastrotto4419 in the cash prizes alone Rublev won to this point in season almost $2.4 million, it's not like he is spending majority of his money on staff
Let this video be a warning for those who call a player they see on TV a "pushover" just because they lose in first round to Nadal, Djokovic, Federer, Barty, Halep or the Williams sisters. Any player who qualifies for an internationally broadcast tournament and even has the chance to face any top 10 is good enough to beat 99% of the global population with an arm tied to the back. And any player who manages to enter the top 1000 of the ATP or WTA has more than justified their bid at professional tennis, let alone the top 100. They may not win Wimbledon, but that doesn't mean they haven't made it to the top and that they aren't WAY better than any CZcams "coach".
yep totally agree!!!!!
More like 99.999%
well spoken
what Djokovic is doing by forming a player's council is fantastic job for lower ranked players!!
Yeah and everyone is still hating on him for that lol
@@DoubleUppp absolutely.. I don't know what people's problem with him
It's just PR, he's not sincere.
@@geoffreycharles6330 do you really think Djoker needs PR? And does it make any kind of sense to be willingly subject to the negative ridicule just for PR?????
@@nordna of course he need even the negative PR because morons like believe he's honest
That was very well done. Crazy to compare the 195th ranked tennis player to the 195th ranked player in football, baseball, hockey, basketball etc. It makes me think tennis should create more leagues to help the lower ranked players play on teams to generate some revenue. Thanks again for putting this together. Definitely a must watch for young juniors and parents.
absolutely
You cannot really compare it to Team sports
Not really. image if football was 1v1. The 195th player wouldn't even make it to the lowest professional league in football if that were the case. But as it's 11 a side a player ranked 195 would be considered a very good player.
@@NEELZE99 Compare it to golf then. I bet the 195th player in golf makes much more than the 195th ranked player in tennis.
@@MPTennis he made $90,000 in 2023 and $486,000 in 2021 but they are also responsible for all their costs.
And this is just about the US. Consider the countries where ITF tours don't take place. I think India has about 3-4 ITF events per year. So players have to travel to other countries to play these events.
I realized all this 3-4 years ago and said bye-bye to tennis. Now I just play on weekends, just as a hobby.
That's so true. When I played in SGFI, my mind was boggled to see how mostly all the players were from well-off families. Not to take anything away from those players as they're without a doubt very talented, but for players from small towns and middle-class families, it's extremely difficult to pursue a sport like tennis.
@@herrguy6617 novak
@arl business its just an example. also worth it when your son is the best tennis player ever
I really want to see this channel grow, because it truly makes the best tennis content in my opinion.
This channel is a niche in youtube content that is really nice to see being filled
The Australian Open showed a statistic for Karatzev that said his career earnings to this point were like $600k. Less than what he’s won already for this Aus Open tournament already
I love how it shows 4 pictures of Gulbis as the narrator talks about unknown players "grinding it out", barely getting by.
Gulbis comes from one of the richest families in Latvia.
He was also at one point a top 10 player so he did definitely have a spot on our TVs albeit briefly
@@crabken4969 he’s also got a pretty unique forehand and an angry but funny attitude on court so I don’t know about you but I would definitely be watching him on my TV
Great video! My dad and uncle played professionally reaching a high of 100 in doubles, but the financial commitment to get to that point saw them lose tens of thousands of dollars. My dad has always told me that if I'm playing for the money, I'm in the wrong business. He says that the real value comes from the experiences that you have, the ability to do what you love while travelling the world and experiencing different cultures.
Great insight! A lot of spectators don’t realize to be a professional, it’s more about the love of the game than the potential of becoming rich!
I guess Cult Tennis went from Asaba to Rubin on the YT game.. Will he reach Fed status? Stay tuned..
ok thats funny
Hahaha nice!!
this video made me respect asabi a lot more know. he is chasing his dream of being a pro player even tho he could just settle down and work a full time job. hats of too him
This is finally a tennis channel I have wanted to see. A channel that analysises tennis and atp
We as fans play some part in all of this. If we searched out and attended lower-level tournaments to support, there would be move revenue to pass along to the players. I know it may be a small issue (compared to the huge disparity), but it would surely help.
Mah boy getting sponsored? Congratulations! Keep up your great vids, you will explode eventually, your content is great
It's like this in many things; sports, acting, music, etc. Very few are making the big money and people have to make as much as possible while they can. And it's only becoming even more competitive.
AT EXACTLY 6:36 IF YOU PAUSE I AM THE BALL KID ON THE COURT BEHIND THE PLAYER IN YELLOW. I was a ball kid at the Little Rock Open and got Noah Rubin to sign my bag. We also still talk sometimes through Instagram dms.
Weird flex but ok...
I've been here since about 1k, so in my head you got a sponsor around 5k then I saw how many subscribers you actually have now. Great work!
Cult Tennis getting a sponsorship on his way to professional youtubing
This is honestly one of the best channels on youtube! You deserved the sponsorship!
I don't know how to say in english, but in portuguese we would say "Esse canal foi um achado!". It means I found something very good that it is difficult to find.
Wait, but canal is channel. Is it like a phrase that doesn't mean it literally?
We would say this channel is a real find.
You found a hidden gem!
It's the same situation in every sector whose main product is to be watched/listened by the consumer - actors / singers / standup / mass media / etc
I watched your sponsor ad because it shows your hard work has paid off! Well done man!
Man the quality is a slick as Roger’s backhand (or forehand if you wish lol)
Just as slick as roger lol
Roger dodger
Your explanations and montage are so out of this world man! Definitely the best tennis channel on youtube at the moment! Keep up the excellent work.👏
Normally I could care less for tennis, but your videos are so well edited and so informative that I can’t stop watching them
Great video man, love this fast growing channel of yours. Please keep up the good tennis content!
You are my favorite CZcamsr on the platform right now! I love tennis but I can never find awesome CZcamsrs like you!
Yes. Get the money you deserve. This channel is so underrated and I’m so happy you’re getting sponsorships. The ad really did make me get a free trial just because of your magnificent videos!!!
Great video man. All the info i needed and easy to understand. Great editing too.
informative and nicely presented.. appreciate the efforts put in to shed some light on the much ignored BTS reality, in an understandable manner.. congrats n all the best!!!
Fun fact, Since you mentioned baseball triple a as a comparison for the challenger level in tennis. Triple a players in baseball would probably have a heart attack if they were told they were gonna make 60k a year. Since they make around 2800 dollars a month and only get paid for the half year the season is active. so around 15 k a season, probably a bit less. The 2800 is also a massive increase compared to just ten years ago.
great video dude, I always look forward to Fridays now
You're like the Core-A gaming of Tennis.
We need more channels like them quality content that isnt too straining on the creator.
If your ranked outside the top 500, it really helps to live close to where a lot of future tournaments are held. Some places (like Heraklion in Greece) hold tournaments several weeks in a row and you can stay and play at a resort at low season prices. Are domestic flights in the US really 700 USD btw? You could do a 4-5 cities tour in Europe for that money.
it’s because of distances that domestic flights cost around 300~400 dollars
You will see your channel grow. Absolutely genius tennis content and video making skills. Keep it up.
I love seeing how far this channel has come from when I first saw it, it’s getting the attention it deserves and I just hope the best for you in the future man, thank you for your amazing content! :)
Thanks so much for watching!!
I love your channel man you're a real genius and lover of the sport of tennis,
I think you're really gonna help grow the game because nobody is doing what you're doing - the in depth research, the professional editing -
in order to really illustrate the reality of the game of tennis
Once again great content about something i've always wondered about the professional circuit.
love your videos and all the research you put into it!
Its called a pareto distribution, the same distribution appears in nearly any competitive field you care to look at. The flatter the distribution, the lower the payoff to be at the top but the more you earn to be in the middle and bottom.
But the 250 guy will be able to have a six figure income teaching others to play tennis for the rest of his life.
The 1700 guy would easily get a tennis coach job for a high school tennis team.
I have no clue why you don’t get more views. You’re like Foolish Baseball but for tennis. You’re what the sport needs.
Great vid as always . Love the analytics
This tennis circuit seems very similar to the Poker circuit. So many players compete in tournaments all over, and its fun to go around and compete, but fact is vast majority need a true full-time job outside of poker to sustain the costs to keep the thrill of playing in the circuit (with the carrot of a potential big payday if one gets very lucky).
Dude ur delivery is so good, very engaging video 👍🏾
This is a great video!!!
Keep posting videos of this type.
Always wanted to know the daily grind being a tennis player! Thanks for this feedback bro! Love your channel
This is great content and I think it is very interesting to recognize how similar competitive prize structuring is for certain (non-team) activities. Odd similarities in things from tennis to fighting game e-sports.
Great vid . Thanks . Heard a guy break it down once that basically unless you are ranked 300 or higher you are losing money each week/year.
Golf and baseball are better chances for low ranked players.
Really interesting, and equally depressing for those intent on making it to the top. Thanks for the heads up. Glad I’m too old and rubbish to even consider it now!
Every video you publish is a banger. Keep it up!!
This CZcams channel is doing better than most tennis players out there
Great Video as always! Love your channel man!
Awesome video, mate, this is what tennis followers have to know. Now, imagine this hard reality for south american players, with less money and with longer and more expensive flights.
Also for asian countries like India..
#CULTTENNIS man, finally a relevant and well-written tennis CZcams channel. Bless.
I just found your channel and your content is amazing! Keep it up man
Love your videos! Keep up the content!
These videos are great, very thorough.
Another great release, Thanks!
This wasn't that much of a surprise considering how much of an elitist sport tennis is.
It's not because tennis is an elitist sport, it's because anything remotely similar to tennis's economic structure (individuals building their own brands in an attendance/travel-based environment) is incredibly skewed. Even pro wrestling (which is predetermined and more entertainment-based) has a similar structure.
Jim Duggan (winner of the first Royal Rumble) estimated only 120 people hold contracts and the rest would drive "200-500 miles for $25" according to (former WCW champion) Diamond Dallas Page. Of course, it goes without saying that the people at the top earn millions of dollars per year...
I remember hearing a story where the NHL asked one of their highest ranking players how much they should pay him per year. He wrote down the number 35000. They accepted the deal, and payed a *top five ranking player* no more than _minimum wage._
Was that in your dream?
Wow this video was extremely insightful, thank you very much.
Another great video, well done! Just as a curiosity, how long does it take for you to make each video (on average)?
I love your videos! Best tennis channel. In my opinion. Keep up the absolutely amazing content
High quality content, as always.
Best tennis Channel.
Man ! This is really very informative.
Woohoo! Been waiting for a while for the next video drop
Hope to get them out quicker in the future :)
@@CULTTENNIS Quality>>>Quantity tho
@@CULTTENNIS please don't🙏
Quality beats quantity anyday
And we value and cherish each one because there aren't many
@@Phurngirathaana facts
You are the best tennis channel on CZcams because everyone knows there are these types of channel in other sports but not tennis until you arrived 🎾
Wow this is dream crushing yet informative.
I love the videos that you are making. They are very informative and engaging. Keep up the good work!
Will you be doing collabs with other Tennis CZcamsrs in the future?
Absolutely, very big things planned for this channel in 2021 😉
@@CULTTENNIS the place of residence also affects the salary from contracts. Max Eisenbad (Vice President of IMG) talks about this in an interview with Forbes. If we look at the example of the same Nishikori, we will see that he earned more on advertising contracts than Djokovic !! and Li Na, the first Chinese woman to win a Grand Slam in 2019 alone, earned 19 million. despite the fact that she has already finished her career. what to say about Osaka, which has already become the highest paid female athlete in the world. I know this because I blog myself: texon.substack.com/. I write a lot about how to apply as a young tennis player to US universities. which is also one of the options for continuing a tennis career. I really like your channel, great content. if you want, we can collaborate, here is my number - 87773485940
Tried my hands at ITF organized tournaments after moderate success in USTA team tennis.
My doubles partner and I did well in a few tournaments at high altitude (we were both from salt lake city ,utah) . we both realized that many people have been groomed since grade school and have a decade of experience before I picked up a tennis racket in high school.
Our best results was about $2500 take home for a single challenger event .
10:12 "Numbers of spectators" - and this is what is all boils down to, no matter what is your ability, color or sex.. the further you advance the higher the rewards!
High Quality content 👌I wonder how those money affect them mentally during tennis matches 😟
It’s honestly sad😕
So much great editing man
The productionvalue on these videos is impressive. If you do this on your own, you certainly deserve to make a decent living from it at a minimum! :)
Ubelievable vid, congrats 🎉
Excellent video!! Sadly in professional tennis the words of Mark 4:25 apply perfectly: "For to him who has will more be given; and from him who has not, even what he has will be taken away".
You didnt include new strings and grips as expenses as well
it's okay, the figure for food was pretty over the top for a week or whatever
Great video!!! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
I would just absolutely love if I could play futures and challengers tournaments every now and then when I'm older. My dream (obviously besides making it full time pro) would be to play throughout college, get a good job after college and play every now and then in futures and challengers
Every video is a masterpiece keep it up mate
You know you watch too much tennis when Cult Tennis shows some B roll of a random ITF tournament draw and you recognize several names
Really really good content ! Very interesting keep doing :)
thank you for the informative vid
There is another options for players like Asaba, betting.
3:46 Pierce Rollins LOL...hes not bad. Saw him in same draw as my bud at our local city tournaments. Not an ITF not even close
This is why Djokovic formed new players asossiation, but yet Nadal nor Federer didn't want to support him, rich will to stay rich while poor will stay poor that's how the world works and even the current No. 1 can't change it
Bro, that's deep.
Yea that's not what happened mate. But let's spin it your way because you are probably a Novak Stan
Idk bout roger. But Nadal did support him. And if you want to get specific. Both Novak and roger were filthy rich growing up (not that it matter) but your making Nadal sound like a rich guy who has never done anything for the disadvantaged. He grew up so poor and he gives so much
@@zenahanna2613 You can check Novaks background story, hes familly was middle class in eastern Europe during his childhood. They were actually gambling and selling everything to invest in his career....
@@zenahanna2613
Babe, your pulling facts from your ass
Good practical information
Another great video!
This just made me realize that I need to get insanely better while I'm still young😂😂
Impressive and insightful