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The sister complaining about them acting like judge, jury and executioner, while her brother judged himself, found himself guilty and executed himself, HIMSELF.
Amazin.
Sister sounds like a truly horrible human being. Used the whole thing to cash in, as far as I'm concerned.
Top tier comment. I hope someone has said this to her.
Pretty sure the reason he did that wasn’t because he JuDgEd HiMsELf but because he got publicly exposed. So this makes zero sense
@@AyamiLeehopefully not because it’s nonsense
@@gil3744 my guy, calm down, I never even said that he judged himself for being a pedo, he couldve just judged himself for getting caught being a pedo, which basically admits being a pedo, bringing us back to the age old "I didnt even do anything yet" excuse, which he clearly didn't believe, or knew he was guilty in more than one case.
I basically said "he assessed the situation, knew he was guilty and chose his preferred form of punishment"
Theres no need to take everything VERY literal, especially when its part of a joke, I thought about saying "judged the situation himself", but that would've hurt the flow, so I decided against it, since anyone with a decent working brain could pick up what Im putting down either way.
Have a day.
People like that sister are the reason why predators continue do what they do. Those people would rather sweep everything under the rug because it’s such an inconvenience to them. Those types of people are just as dangerous.
Put them in jail too. Conspiracy to allow pedophilia.
They are just as bad as the monsters they are protecting
Fr it's the messed up world we live in
Enablers are just as bad as the actual people committing the crimes. She should be getting thrown in prison
My mother was one of those enablers. My father should be in prison, and WOULD be if only my mother hadn't convinced 10 year old me to "save him" from going to prison. I'll always live with the regret of retracting my statement.
(sorry for basically trauma dumping, I'm not in therapy rn so I leave comments like this 💀)
Edit: ty guys for the kind words ❤️ and for telling me this isn't really trauma dumping
“A man died because you were incompetent”
No.
A man died because he knew that his last breaths would be in a prison cell.
Social media has painted as if all pedo's are killed in prison that is not true.
he knew if he went to prison he would have gotten worst treatment.
aint no way he wouldnt have been a prison bitch and possible dead within months, dudes in prison dont play on that "touching kids" shit, and i can only imagine how many in there were put there by him.
That's no man. (as in human, because people are dunces these days and i have to explain every joke and point of impact)
What’s sad is he probably would have been out in 3 years 2 probation
@@Haunttts …..he wouldn’t even have made it through the first month of the first year.
"Three laptops, a cell phone and several computer disks found in the home all contained pornographic material (and) some included child pornography."
Patricia: I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that.
Shame on the family for trying to paint him as the victim.
They should be investigated too
@@tedtheodore5715 for real, the fact that they just let everyone else that was caught in that sting go is absurd.
He bounced and left the family to deal with the shame and embarrassment. They fought but there is no way they weren’t disgusted by the things the found. They can’t deny those.
The sister need to get therapy.
It was all for the money of course
I can't feel bad for him. He committed a crime, he attempted to hurt a child.
Who knows how many other children he’s hurt
@@ameliaburton3426let alone the sick fck that tipped him off (if any one actually did tip him off)
@@ameliaburton3426 exactly. He's not a victim 😆
He more than likely has done this before. The sister did a disservice and allowed predators to go free. I understand emotions were running high but everyones job in society is to protect kids even if it means exposing a family member
He DID hurt children. By viewing that content he was supporting the harm of children. Even if he never touched a child, he contributed to their suffering.
“It’s your fault my brother took the coward’s way out after he was caught being a creep and a predator.”
I see how generational predation occurs because wow.
Many predators were victims of SA themselves.
@@rebeccamartin2399 Which is no excuse because they then continued the cycle of abuse
@@kweenkayoz Exactly, if you didn't like being abused, why would you do it to others, unless you chose the side of evil? I wasn't sexually abused but I had terrible neglectful parents and I have raised 4 wonderful children when my loser "parents" couldn't stop partying and feeling sorry for themselves long enough to take care of one. I chose to be better.
"You didn't talk to me first"
For what? To cover up the dude's acts? Nah, dawg.
Basically the show got cancelled because the fish they caught were too big
Dude killed himself and the sister acted he was the victim lol. Sounds about right
if it was my brother id never forgive him and get mad when he khs
She's probably involved somehow. Looks like creep material just like hr S#!& brother.
She saw a payday, that's what I'm seeing here.
Sister has been covering up him for years I bet
@@dkminion good point.
Its crazy how in this society, you can do everything right, with good intention, and still get sued for doing what's right......
Because we ALLOW civil lawsuits for ANYTHING
There are laws in place to prevent lawsuits over a lot of things
@happiestcamel5064 But slap suits are still a thing and it's sometimes not even for money, it's just a way to ruin someone's life for a months to years, drain them of their funds for legal hassle and then drop it after you feel that you ruined them enough.
That’s when you can implement defamation lawsuits, the system is very far from perfect and of course it is abused. I’m just saying it’s not as deplorable as the original comment made it seem
@@happiestcamel5064 any lawyer you hire will tell you "you won't win on defamation because it's basically impossible to prove" so yeah, it's hopelessly broken.
Anyone who defends a proven predator is just as horrible. How can you stand behind anyone who attempts to hurt a child in the worse possible way?!?!
The entire judicial system where they live does it.
Shame on the sister. She wanted to sweep it under the rug. Cops didn't kill him. He could have fought it in court
Being fair this and rape are accusations that last forever guilty or not, why do you think dudes are suing for false rape accusations? This was the inevitable final consequence and nothing more
GLAD he was also a GUN NUT!!!
Gotta love how the sister cried and said her pedo brother was a victim. Ma'am, he had CP on his computers. Just that alone would get him jail time. They got legal warrants. Your brother was NOT a victim.
Exactly. The kids he had inappropriate photos of ARE the victims. Not your sick f*ck of a brother that wants to r*ape kids.
Can be both simultaneously, victim to abuser/criminal pipeline Is real. Stopped being a victim soon as he got those photos
He was never a victim. And cp comes with more than jail. That's prison and an ass beating. And if you survive that then the registry it is and hope the laws don't change that protect those types of people never change.
The reason for that may be bc she probably had no knowledge of he was doing. She doesn’t want to accept the fact her brother was caught red handed. However it doesn’t make it right to blame TCAP for what happened. He reached out to this person posing as a 14 or 13 year old boy. He commented a crime.
Her brother was not only a filthy pedo, but he was filthy enough to not even be honest with the prey. He was telling the decoys that he's 19 years old and sending them pics of underwear models with the heads cropped off. Shoot, not even on his best day would this creep have passed for 19.
Of course the family tries to make him seem like a victim, they don’t want to face the truth about what he did
there’s people out there who won’t accept that this type of horror exists in the world. the denial is even worse when it comes from their own blood
They can say he's a victim all they want, but it won't change the fact that he was a monster and we're better off without him
It's the same thing with Casey Anthony.
Denial is a hell of a drug. My family dealt with generational sexual abuse and both offenders are able to use their wives as shields. It's ruined our relationships & we are still dealing with the repercussions. I'll never forgive them.
That or they’re in on it
"They acted as judge, jurry, and exicutioner"
No, they acted as police officers who were going to take him to stand before a judge and a jury. Execution wouldn't have been an option even if he was found guilty (unless maybe other crimes were uncovered). He had his chance to stand before a judge and a jury, and chose to execute himself instead. Such a stupid phrase for this situation.
I worked at a video game store chain. When I found evidence that my boss was committing a crime against all of us girls there, I immediately called the police. The police called my District Manager. He tells me "you should have called me first." Any time I hear that, I know that person is self preserving and that they are in trouble too. He would've talked us girls out of calling the cops.
Did he get punished? Are girls safe there now?
2000% it "makes him look bad"
Yeah bad because you did bad.
I don't know anything about your situation and I can tell dude was a creep by the fact it seems your GameStop was staffed with one manager and a bunch of teenaged girls... Big alarm bells going off
@@darkhobo Oh yeah it was pretty bad. In his words "women are just better with customers." It was so sad. I looked through his application folders because he kept them up by the registers and he was ignoring a ton of applications from men. The few men that he interviewed had feminine or Gender-Nutral names. Those same men came in and actually complained about that to me and the other girls after the manager was arrested and fired. I was the oldest girl there and I had just turned 19. The other girls were 18, one of them had literally turned 18 a week before she got hired. He ended up dating that one.
@@Dee-ty5em Ew. I hope especially she's safe.
I just got my boss fired by going all the way to the VP to report him for trying to write me up for something I was well within my rights to do. My boss’s supervisor hates me cause I didn’t come to him. For what? So you can tell me you’re gonna handle it and not handle anything? Lol no thanks, I’m in the business of getting results.
Imagine being the person that got TCAP shutdown. That's your legacy, Patricia.
Thanks, PATRICIA
What's sad is, confronted by this, she would be proud of it.
Worst than that. Thanks to her stupidity, other creepers had to be released.
As far as the death of TCAP goes:
I am reminded of an old street gang saying from the 80's:
"We don't die, we multiply!"
The Internet is allowing a new age of vigilantism!
@@haydenwhite8255 Yeah, but those vigilantes aren't as organised or controlled as TCAP. There's like 2 out of several hundred that do a good job, and leave the rest to the police. The other vigilantes ruin every case they touch, and only help predators continue what they're doing.
His sister rode the outrage train all the way to the bank. She kept saying, "Judge, jury, and executioner," but two judges okayed the warrants and the guy executed himself before a jury could get involved.
The guy's boss complaining about not being contacted might've been the one tipping him off. Highly likely.
You also gotta think he was a prosecuting DA. He sent a LOT of criminals to jail. He probably knew he had a lot of proof against him and if he were sent to jail with the ppl he put there, he was in even more danger in there than out
Oh this guy. I heard that he could've had the charges dropped but we don't know that. It's wild that his sister blamed TCAP and Perverted Justice for what happened. Like ma'am , your brother was the same sicko that he put in jail. Even the police say that they have enough evidence to charge but nope. He took the easy way out
No one felt bad for him. Chris said that he felt nothing after he unalived himself. Louis was literally no different from the 200+ men they locked up. The majority of the men caught in that sting reoffended or kept an extremely low profile.
TCAP should've caught thousands of predators but nope. All it took was one coward
Sister saw a payday from ABC, and ABC paid for her to go away.
@@endcensorship874*NBC
It's notable that multiple people effectively killed themselves over the show's run, but it was only when an "important" person did it that it's suddenly a problem.
Nobody was calling for the show's cancellation when Chuck Harding deliberately stopped taking his meds to end his life, but the media expected us to somehow feel shock at this prosecutor ending himself? Give me a break.
@@thecrispymaster John Wayne Gacy. Pastor, Councilman, Clown, Serial Rapist/Murder. "But he was such an upstanding citizen"... Same shit, Different day. No one ever believes when it isn't some jakey lowlife.
@@thecrispymaster They only care when it's one of their rich buddies. Then it's suddenly a 'travesty' and a 'tragedy'
Absolutely disgusting
Keep calling out the behaviour!
Powerful people get away with horrific crimes every day because they have power.
Accountability is important for everyone to combat complacency that allows monsters to exist.
The “quiet on set” stuff with Dan Schneider is already being forgotten due to the Diddy stuff
@@christina6964 Naw I feel like everyone is going to remember the Dan Schneider stuff now, it's just that Diddy is actively being pursued legally right now. Dan already lost his job at Nickelodeon and is publicly now and forever known as a creep and a predator.
Absolutely! We also need to remember, these people only have power because we allow them to. If people refused to bad things in exchange for payment, they would have no power. Religious or not, money or influence are not worth losing your humanity over.
This also applies to politics. Especially now (yes, that's you USA and Russia)
@@christina6964 Just cause the majority of the internet isnt talking about it doesnt mean people forgot. People tend to remember this kind of shit even if its not always popular to talk about anymore
Ken, I totally agree with you that he did the world a favor by “taking himself out of the equation”! I never met my biological father & as an adult, I looked up info about him. He was a bigger monster than this guy and died in prison in 1996. I’m beyond thankful that he didn’t come to the hospital the day I was born (like he said he was going to do) and the world is a MUCH better place without him in it!
Before anyone tells me how terrible I am for saying that: His last victim was a 3 month old baby girl, who had to have surgery after 30-45min alone with him & may never have children after what he did to her!.. so yeah, he was an absolute MONSTER!
the decision to end his life was made by himself and only himself..
So not only did this guy choose his own actions, but he chose his own consequences, and the sister STILL blamed everyone else? Girl. 🤦🏼♀️
Thats the thing alot of people dont get, sometimes you refuse to believe someone close to you would do that.
@@BazzbTV It takes a sick mind to jump through all the mental hoops to ignore the CP and him showing up to the sting. Even if she somehow grabbed a brain cell from somewhere and got a reality check her actions endangered many children. She's trash. Just like her brother. She may not be a creep (or she might who knows) but she's an awful cowardly person like her brother for defending him of his actions and putting children at risk from the creeps that were set free from the sting because of her callousness and greed. I wish her the same kindness she besotted onto society with her greediness.
@@BazzbTV Her inability to do so in this case is pretty rough. He isn't a little kid, he isn't her son. She doesn't just love her family, she loves her family enough to overlook the suffering of children. That's not love that's selfishness.
@@TecTitan Yeah, there's something wrong in that family. Their parents were probably abusive. No excuse, of course; just speculating on how you end up with two amoral narcissists in one household.
@@adrianhenlethat’s not necessarily true. I was molested as a kid by my brother. He was abused by a neighbor. He is a violent sociopath who is in prison. My parents never raised a hand to us or touched us inappropriately
"You can't ascertain they were underage." You don't take dramatic, irreversible actions like that if you have nothing to hide or did nothing wrong. He didn't even want to chance defending himself cause he knew what would be held against him. He had the option for "Judge and jury," but he appointed himself as his own executioner. Wild stuff.
That's the wildest, his sister acting all like "oh boo hoo they wanted to play judge jury and executioner" honey the didn't even get to the judge part. Your beother speed ran it to execution.
@@SAA-hr9gr yeah they didn't go in there like vigilantes, they went in with the law intending to arrest him, not convict, sentence, or execute him. Now if the guy got assassinated by someone taking the law into their own hands, then she'd have an argument, but no that is NOT what happened.
He was catfishing as a 19 year old. Certainly was trying to find young girls he could manipulate once they saw what he actually looked like.
Creepy. Makes me wonder if he was the type to slip something into victim's drinks.
What's even more... isn't EVERY adult movie obliged to show they have records of the actors being adults and where those records can be viewed?
I other words: if there are no records that show the actors are adults, it means they are breaking the law already.
patricia conrad, the pedo defender
The fact the state settled out of court only proves that there is something much much bigger then the bits n pieces that we seen
😂 "We investigated ourselves and found no wrong doing, but here takes this hush money settlement paid for by you, the tax payer" 😢
What extra sucks is how many people are exactly like that guy and his sister *and* not facing any sort of backlash or scrutiny. No sense of accountability. It’s disgusting.
You can check her social media and the funniest part is shes “anti pedophile” but sued in defense of one.
Share with the class 👀
What social media is she on?
a bit ironic isn't it
Where?
Need the @ for further confirmation
The sister can blame NBC all she wants but he was predator. NBC didn’t put those things on his computer or reach out to him. Did NBC act over zealous because of his status, sure. Whether it was tv or caught for harming a true minor, the outcome could’ve been the same
“What is this? Consequences to his own actions?? This is absurd!”
makes me wonder if she was abused and is tried to cover.. hopefully not 💔
The sister was just looking for a pay out.
I do not understand how his sister patricia could defend him. I wish no harm for my sibling, but if they ever were a person like this, i wouldn’t hesitate to criticise them and defend which ever side the kid(s) is/are on fully.
The world is ran by predator's, a powerful predator dies and all of a sudden there was "mistakes".
His sister needs to be put in the spotlight for victimizing her brother, ask her the hard questions why Conradt felt so compelled to delete his info. Settlement with NBC undisclosed. All types of shady backroom deals.
"victimizing" isn't the word you're looking for unless you think she abused him at some point, eulogized or lionized is more what I think you're trying to say.
8:03 "he's not dead yet"
because the narrator , whose show it is,said so. ......
....OK , gotcha 👍
Why the f else would they helicopter him away? How old are you and are you high?
@@Aurelius-bf3yx I think another word might be "apotheosize."
She was probably his camerawoman
I guarantee that this guy had been doing this for years. He probably used his position of power to manipulate his victims. In my opinion, there are NO mistakes when it comes to child predators.
AND the freaking sister turned him into the victim & made sure that others like him could be free to victimize even more kids! But hey, at least she's a millionaire now, so maybe future victims can sue her!
Predators arnt bumbling oafs. They plan every move they make in order to catch prey.
@@AndrewRyan-zv7zbBased on what we see on the show some of them certainly are bumbling oafs. But yes some of them are meticulous. Predators don't have a hive mind where they all think the same.
@@TheExtremeIRON No, but there's too many in power and covering for each other for them to not have some kind of "free mason" kinda club for themselves. A pedo-Omerta
@@AndrewRyan-zv7zb uh no, you’re giving them too much credit. The majority are definitely not like this
@@69kat69 it doesn't take a majority of them being intelligent, just a handful. Then the other idiots walk around knowing they're covered.
This sister is the lowest of the low. Her concern was only to achieve a settlement, and she succeeded.
I live about 30 miles from Terrell where this happened. It was such a huge deal when the DA refused to file charges. The community demanded an investigation into the whole DAs office. That’s how the DA ended up in federal prison. It was a really big deal for these small Texas towns.
Maybe the sister is a creep too? Clearly if she knew what her brother was, she wouldn't play the victim, unless she's also a creep?
Honestly wouldn't be surprised if it turned out that he SA'ed her when she was young and groomed her into thinking it's okay and that may have played into why she defended him so hard.
Or was a victim
There’s so many disgusting women that are well aware of things like this going on and just let it happen…it’s almost like they have a deep hatred for children and other women and enjoy others pain…
Nah, she's just greedy and couldn't resist going after a lucrative media company for some pocket change.
Or she never cared about any of it and needed some money.
They didnt need to go to the DA. A judge is higher on the food chain. The police did it all by the books with the evidence, warrants, etc
The DA knew that, I think it was because he knew he was mismanaging money and if they looked it wouldn’t be hard to find. Unless that’s not the same guy 🙃
You have to go to the DA to get a prosecutor. The general practice is to inform the DA prior to arrest so you know the charges will stick, but it's not actually necessary as they can just be dropped afterward if there's something wrong.
Well that’s the thing, you aren’t supposed to skip chain of command and that’s why he got all butt hurt (and bc he’s also a criminal 💀)
If they were going by chain of command they’d go to the DA and let him go up the chain. But in this situation they didn’t have to do that he’s just delulu
Plus theres a massive conflict of interest there with the guy being directly under him
Sir Noncealot blows himself away, and it's everyone else's fault? what is she? his sister or his enabler? and who tipped him off and why would they tip him off, shared interests maybe?
You have to have a certain amount of evidence to get a warrant. With him both working for police and being a predator would have painted a target on him in jail. That’s probably part of why he went the way he did.
Dude's boss is totally the one who tipped him off.
100%
Or the chief that knew him 20 years..
Whoever tipped him off is likely a child predator too in my opinion. I wouldn’t defend or tip off my closest friends if they were child predators
Fr, especially with evidence against him on preds computer
cuz he involved
They went thru TWO lawyers to get this man arrested and they were wrong bc he took his own life and he was a man of power?
It says so much. he took himself out because he was guilty. Part of him knew he couldn't talk his way out of it. He wasn't a victim, he was a monster. They took the right steps to get him, he chose not to take the consequences of going to prison.
It's telling that with his wealth, power, and knowledge about how to pull strings and influence things, he KNEW his mess was to big to clean up or hide. Also interesting how usually on TCAP, the preds seem in denial, or more likely, blissfully ignorant of the consequences ahead. This guy, for once had a Very clear understanding of his circumstances. Victim, Predator, Monster, Coward- whatever you call him, he's gone, thank goodness.
@@icu3869 So true, well put.
It’s not wealth it’s that Hanson went to a man’s house with out approval and it lead to a man’s death, a death that should not have happened because he only wanted to make a show
@@queendashoftheicons4103 The man killed himself because he didn’t want to get arrested. Either way that would’ve happened because perverted justice reported the crimes he committed to the police whether Chris Hansen was filming or not
@@sociallifeofafemboy my point was that people are acting like Hanson did nothing wrong when he did, he did not have approval to be there he should have left it to the proper authorities
"The pain that this has caused my family" Lady your brother had the option to defend himself in a court of law, which he obviously has enough faith in the justice system to be a prosecutor of it.
"Judge, jury and executioner" They were there to arrest him so that he could go to court in front of a judge, have a trial in front of a jury and be able to defend himself against the accusations. Nobody executed him he chose to do that himself.
If the police raided his home and shot him she has a case, the way it actually went down though it looks like they followed the right procedures. Whether PJ turned over chat logs or not that's a matter that could have been adressed at trial if the guy hadn't decided to off himself.
Alexa Nicholas just recently talked about something similar to this - about how families enable predators because they don't want to believe they are like this. If he didn't unalive himself, his family 100% would have enabled him to continue doing what he was, despite the mass amounts of evidence found in his home. Disgusting.
Ah the good ol cognitive dissonance within the family
I just do not understand enablers. I think my family would have the exact opposite stance, send em to jail with a few broken bones from "falling" down the stairs
the fact that his sister paints the predator as the victim pisses me off.
The trauma caused by predators never goes away. I was a victim of a man like that as well. Was SA'd at 12 years old and at almost 30 I am still struggling, going to therapy weekly, to the psych ward once a year. The guy got away with what he did while I had my life pretty much taken away from me. And this is the experience of most victims.
Yeah its like they don’t see the victims as human beings
I am sorry you had that experience. I wish this world was more fair especially to the young and vulnerable. If only there was a way for the monster you encountered to be put away without reoffending, justice is just never easy.
While he got away, it's clear that you're stronger than everyone involved that released him back into society. The justice department hasn't walked a mile in your shoes, nor would they even take the time to think about what it must be like to be unable to defend yourself in such situations. Just like minority group that face high amounts of violent crimes, those people would never even try to listen to the victims begging them to spend a few hours thinking about what it must be like in the ACTUAL victims, that literal essence of "you see my shoes, don't just look at them, try spending a few hours in them."
Same here buddy, sending love and healing
Agreed.. my step-dad sa'd me from 2-5years old.. I'm now 26 and affects me everyday.. don't think it ever goes away
see if he wasn’t a DA tho it would be a different story…
perfect example of abuse of power.
Victims of reckless actions? Like a predator assaulting a child?
peoples ability to blindly defend and stand by family members who are predators, murderers, or SA-ers never seises to amaze me.
I would bet that the lawsuit was not about her love for her brother but more so her love for money.
always will
I’d forgive a family member, but I’d want the justice system to do their job.
@@Jervisdudeyou would forgive a family member for being a predator?
@@Amanda-fm7oj forgive is the wrong word. Only god can do that. I’d still love them and visit them in prison. As Jesus commanded in the sermon on the mount.
Just found out my neighbour I talk to everyday is a pedophile. He got arrested 2 days ago and he’s already out on bail. He was messing around with a 14 yr old neighbour my son hangs out with. Absolutely sickening that you just never know a person and how fast he was back out on the street…WITH A PHONE 🤬
Any chance I could look them up in your version of the Yellow Pages?
This country is run by "chomo's" they take care of their own and punish the good guy's.
What area is this sack of crap in.
I used to work at a certain massive retailer and there was one manager that myself and a lot of other people really liked. He was super chill and would just talk to you like a normal person, about non work stuff. He didn't bust you for talking like other ones would. Well, he ended up quitting, supposedly to start a company. Some months later, his photo is on the news included in a big list of other photos in a child predator sting. Apparently he was busted while trying to meet with a 9 year old girl. He had a wife and little kids.
There were rumors that he was actually forced out of the company because some kind of sketchy activity came to light, and that he was actually Canadian and came to the US to start over. I don't know if any of it is true. Regardless, you never know what people are capable of. He was one of the best bosses I've ever had.
Idk why but they usually seem to be really nice people on the surface, I've met a few "chomo's" in my lifetime and were really likeable people until I found out about their "skeletons" then they turn into the most deplorable excuses of a human being. It's all an act, believe me.
DA: Why didn't they contact me first?
Police chief: Because we got _two judges_ to approve arrest and search warrants. We didn't need _your_ approval.
(And come to find out that the reason he asked that question was because the assistant DA had financial logs that showed evidence of theft. Go figure.)
And this predator's sister had no business claiming that her brother's death was due to Dateline "hijacking police procedure." If anything, this case was one where police were more properly involved. So many previous cases had predators go free because their attorneys successfully used the entrapment defense. This time, the police contacted two judges to get search and arrest warrants before making their move while the Dateline crew took the back seat.
If anything, his sister should've gotten charged with aiding and abetting. I refuse to believe she didn't know what he was doing; she had to at least have heard rumors if he was assistant DA. And it's a shame that the network simply wanted to push the case aside and settle out of court, because I believe Chris Hansen's statement that they would've won if the case went to trial.
Honestly I don't see how his sister would be in on it. You're speaking nonsense dude.
@@krislarsen6546 What other term do you think works? Complicit? Enabling? There's a difference between "in on it" and "knew about his behavior yet did nothing to stop him." I'm not saying she was directly helping, but if she knew and did nothing, then she was indirectly helping him whether she realized it or not, because she was enabling his behavior.
@@galeforce3192 you know you're assuming that they are sharing intimate details of their lives with each other. Tell me do you share your porn history with the people around you. Also fun fact did you know that if you can have an image of yourself naked when you were before 18 that's considered CP. With how common sexing is today even among teenagers I would think you would know that.
I wonder if the sister would feel the same if someone tries to hurt her child in that fashion,.... or hey, maybe she'd be okay with that too, who knows.
That sister has some nerve to pretend her brother was the victim when he willingly tried to commit a crime and create real victims smh
When I saw the politician’s face come down on the notification banner I felt like Peach from finding Nemo, “ today’s the day!!! The sun is shining, they’re covering this dood… they’re finally covering this dood. THEYRE FINALLY COVERING THIS DOOD”
This comment gives me life
Haha I reference “Today’s the day!!!! The sun is shining; the tank is clean!” DAILY
This made me chuckle because dood means dead in Dutch.. which is still applicable:’)
@@Esmeagolly OH MAN I DIDNT KNOW THAT LMAO 😭 *the* *more* *you* *know* 🌈💫
...and now Patricia is chief of staff in the Texas house of representatives... that whole thing is disgusting.
You know what's crazy, I saw a video of a CT cop punching and assaulting someone off duty then googled him. . He pleaded guilty to intentionally accepting CP 15 years ago and somehow still kept being a cop.
Life is messy. Crime is messy. Labeling the police department or the show as the single reason why he killed himself is dishonest and wrong. This show did such good by spreading awareness and getting these awful people off the streets, it never should have been cancelled.
Whether or not they were doing "good" they were doing it for ratings, no other reason.
@@danthemankhan its like saying CZcamsrs upload videos for the money or people work jobs to GET MONEY. Ofc it is for the ratings but they didn't need to go out of their way to plan everything and to get a literal house space while trying to bait predators when they can make their life way easier without all that planning. Especially cooperating with the police, they may as well not need to and just shame the predators online.
@@danthemankhan watchdog was catching people way before msnbc/nbc came along chris talks about it in the 1st episode
@@Bl3rd_ Two wrongs don't make a right.
@@danthemankhan 1 hand im with you the other im not alot of guys they caught on the show already had a record it was there 2nd offense they got easy the 1st time and look what happen they ended up on the show
Ken, you're remembering right: Perverted Justice did not provide chat logs.
From the wiki on this case of Bill Conradt, "The Collin County district attorney's office found problems with all of the arrests. Firstly, Perverted-Justice did not provide the comprehensive chat logs of their interactions with suspects. Secondly, by the next July, NBC had still yet to provide its video records for use in prosecution.[14] Third, Texas law largely requires that arrestees have an outstanding warrant, but the DA found that the Murphy police were only-at best-acting as agents of Dateline: "merely a player in the show and had no real law-enforcement position. Other people are doing the work, and the police are just there like potted plants, to make the scenery." For an additional 16 of the cases, because neither the suspects nor PJ chatters were in Collin County, the DA had no jurisdictional authority. On June 1, 2007, DA Roach announced that he would not pursue indictments against suspects from the Murphy bait house."
Thank you for saying this. When it comes to the law the process matters. Perverted Justice and the police botched this. Don’t get me wrong, the assistant DA was a bad guy and deserved to be caught and put in prison but law enforcement has to do the investigation properly. Because if they don’t, bad people have legal defenses and get away with it. Ken and Dane should have done a little more research on this one because they only got Dateline’s side of the story on this which was going to be biased. The way Perverted Justice and the police went about it tainted the evidence and caused a lot of people to get away with it.
Thank you for looking this up and relaying the information.
@@flannyfizzle9402 Not true, the video was made so we know why the show was shut down. Nothing else and nothing more.
@@flannyfizzle9402How is the police/perverted justice botch and not the judges?
@@sladewilson9273because perverted justice was not law enforcement, so the evidence could be misleading, or even faked, making it inadmissible, plus many states don’t allow you to be prosecuted for taking to a minor when that minor is actually an adult ( hence them always using the same few houses as those states did allow the arrest), not to mention perverted justice is committing entrapment, ( the act of tricking one into breaking the law ) so that’s also why some cases get thrown out
The Myspace “Top 8” throwback was nostalgic.
So the boss allowed the assistant to get away with CP. Because he was getting away with taking money off the books. They both likely had evidence of each other's crimes. And that was the way they kept the deal.
The sister should be ashamed of her behavior
The fact that 1. SOMEONE tipped him off and 2. People place all blame on TCAP/PJ is just another reason why this type of crime and the victims get largely ignored. People feel more sorry for the guilty party because their lives were "ruined." Especially when it's someone in a position of authority/high respect who is confirmed to be down for such a horrid crime.
All of a sudden, you need to be more careful and respect procedure, despite the fact that this dude obviously didn't respect basic ethics in their private life.
And NBC had the money to WIN THIS too... They're absolute cowards.
I like how we emphasized *assistant* district attorney 😂 like, “we’ve had about six or seven DAs but never an assistant” 🤣
The show was canceled because there is a process and the show incluenced that process. Both judges stated after the fact that had they known the influence the shows producers had on the process they would have never approved the warrant. The show fucked up so bad that all the other cases that resulted from the sting had to be dismissed. These shows have to be formatted like the show Cops, the show is on a ride along and nothing more.
Randall Wilford, who was caught in this sting and had his charges dropped, was later arrested for the same exact thing. This time he was charged and found guilty. He received a 292 month prison sentence.
Just say 24 years, I noticed you didn't say 8760 days.
@@plaguedoctor415that may have been a federal case, I have a friend that did time in federal prison and it’s given to you in months, he said he got 45 months and freaked out because he thought it was years so he ended up with like just over 3 years
0.24 centuries *
.024 a millenia he dwelt in the dungeon
The same thing happened with my 6th grade teacher. After abusing a handful of girls in our class, he moved on after a year at our school (which we later found out was commonplace for him - this was in the late 90’s, I’m sure earlier in his career he was able to spend longer in the same place, but the most time he spent at any school in recent years was two years), and two years, and two schools later, a girl from the school after us brought charges against him.
An administrator at the high school (we were in 8th grade, our first year of high school by then) came into our classroom to tell us what was happening, and had set up a time in the counsellors office for any girls whom he had abused to meet and talk about what happened, as well as whether or not we wanted help to join the lawsuit against him…..there was barely room to stand in that office. It was horrific to realise how many girls were affected.
Three months later, about two weeks before the trial was set to start, the administrator once again came into our classroom with the news that he had sh0t himself, and taken the easy way out.
Considering the gun laws here, no one could figure out how he’d managed it, living in the state’s capital city.
The saddest part of that(apart from the abuses themselves) is you just know some of those girls blamed themselves for him ending his life.
What a gross coward.
@@TheOfficialPSIyou mean the ones who didn't feel proud of it.
@@aaftiyoDkcdicurak Unfortunately that's not how a lot of kids' brains work.
I hoped they checked that sisters computer hard drive. Chick is literally meant to have a maternal instinct and feel for all those children!
He was a DA so he probably new, guilty or not, he was going to jail for life.
(He also probably knew he was 100% guilty.)
But realistically, anything that can get a conviction and jail time is fine with the state. Justice is very rarely a factor in the American LEGAL system.
Sister protecting a predator, hopefully she is NOT a parent
She's a member of the House of Representatives. So god knows what other shit she's willing to cover up and defend.
"A faint crackle" No, Chris. That was a super loud crackle.
It makes me so angry that everyone in politics is like this, but no one in America is doing anything about it.
If she’s gonna claim that it was NBC/LEOs acted as judge, jury and executioner, she should be tried in his place since we’re gonna go down the ludicrous route.
im too early... feel like imma get tased.....
I woke up and then I got this notif. Yes I’m watching this half asleep 😂😂
Please have a seat....
Ahh but your chat logs say otherwise lol
It's okay, I saved you a seat. Here, have a seat.
TASE HIM!
This exact case is exactly why I’ve held my stance that predators are a protected class in the US 🤦🏽♂️
His house, his computer, his tally wacker, his pistol, his decision, and it's their fault?
If this was his only offense, I could maybe see entrapment. Search history established his guilt.
Dang, what a bad day.
it’s really sad that predators get protection by the government. it shows how sick this world has become.
You would change your tune if you were suddenly accused of being a "predator".
@@danthemankhan There's a difference between being accused and being an actual predator. OP is clearly talking about actual predators and not some "what if". You're ultimately guilty in public opinion (except for fellow creeps and creep apologists) if you take the easy route when charges come out or you're found guilty. Basically doing an Epstein.
@@danthemankhan Dan, are you projecting?
@@itazuranakisu Epstein was assassinated everyone knows this. He had dirt on Trump, Bill Gates, Mark Zuckingburg everyone that went to Epstein's Island and he got killed 1 day before he was about to spill the beans. It's clear as day he got assassinated. You gotta be stupid or naive to believe otherwise when the truth is staring at you in the face.
@@TecTitan I don't know what you mean by that, I'm just saying that any one of us could find ourselves accused of a crime and would be glad the criminal justice system is weighted towards protecting the accused from being railroaded.
Crazy how some people would go to no ends to defend pedophilia even when there’s blatant evidence in their face. I get it, she’s probably hurt because it’s family and they lost a family member, but at the end of the day, dude did one of the most unforgivable crimes known to man. He deserved to be brought to justice. Unfortunate that he took the cowards way out
"Most unforgiveable crime" = chatting with a fake teenager and not showing up to go farther?
@@danthemankhan Chatting with someone who he thinks is a CHILD and has CHILD PORN on his computer. Jesus Christ, please report yourself to the cops before it’s too late
@@danthemankhan you should do a LOT more research lol.
he literally had thousands of CP.
he talked to someone HE BELIEVED a child. he didnt know she was a fake. so again you are defending a pedo. dumbass
once a pedo always a pedo. and yes its 100% the worst crime
@@danthemankhan You are a creep lmao. There is no justification for making comments ALL over the comment section in defense of this guy.
@@willkrueger3857 Since he hasn't had a trial it is purely supposition to say he has done anything wrong.
The amount of people trying to protect this predator is insane. The judge, the sister, the person that tipped him off about the investigation, the district attorney, etc
Another example of how dishonorable law enforcement and the courts truly are.
That sergeants boss man, that’s a big example of “you keep defending bears… are you a bear???”
It's so so easy :
Don't do illegal stuff
Your actions have consequences
No one made you do this
If you prey on kids you better get ready for some fun in prison
100%
“No one made you do this”
EMPHASIS ON THAT.
@@kweenkayoz Indeed
I’ve known about cinnamon toast ken for like 10 years but this is the first video I’ve actually watched of his. Glad to see you talking about real topics, you should do it more often.
Do a good background check on the host of catch a predator!! He is also in big legal trouble for various retail thefts a couple of years ago well over $1.000
Dane’s face disappearing shocked me so much I started laughing at myself.
I had to do a double take XD
I'm guessing the guy's boss was only mad they didn't speak to him first because he knew the dude had incriminating evidence against him on his computer
Ok… so a rich guy k!lls himself because he got caught being predator. And it’s the people who catches him who’s at fault??!!!?
>Police get definite proof that the guy is their suspect
>Go to two seperate judges and gets two seperate warrants
>Knock on the door and follow every proper procedure
>Dude shoots himself
Sister: "Why would the police do this to him?"
if you are going after a prosecutor in a neighboring county, you want to make sure there are no technical mistakes, because he is the kind of person likely to know technicalities to get off.
it's not because he is rich and white, it is because he knows how the judicial system works, and they don't want him to wriggle free on a technicality.
If I remember correctly as well, perverted Justice came out and admitted that they did not have police approval to go there, yet they went anyway
@queendashoftheicons4103 this is why these so called "pedo hunters" are a nuisance, they get their egos inflated on every succes until they become klutz and make a mistake like this
Oh it’s all of the above.
Has anyone done any research into the dudes who got let off free from this sting because of this creeps sister? Because if so and it turns out one (or some) of the dudes who got let off free ended up molesting kids after that, everyone should let her know that was her doing and she can live with that knowledge
She won’t care. Folks who enable predators are monsters in their own right.
A couple of them reoffended, but it wasn't with real kids thankfully. But who knows what the others have done and haven't been caught.
She could careless. Soulless cretin defending a predator. She shouldn't be allowed near children. While some people don't actively creep there are plenty who will allow them access knowingly and excuse their behaviors because they want to smash or have a lifestyle of money they don't want to give up by calling the cops.
There were a bunch of people that because of this show that got next to nothing and some they just let go.
Randall Wolford was later arrested for doing the same thing (that time the decoy was undercover police). Stanley Kendall tried to, but he just ended up continuing to get catfished by TCAP fans. Haven't seen any info that any of the Murphy predators reoffended with actual kids, but it wasn't for lack of trying.
TCAP Used 2 judges, No jury, but Conrad was his own executioner.
Should have gone directly to the Rangers... there'd have been REALLY quick work done and a live convict.
What bugs me is that the sister acts like her brother and herself were victims even though her brother was a creep? Like hello?
It was all for money. She knew exactly what her brother was. I am willing to bet she distanced herself from him, but as soon as she found out what happened with TCAP and perverted justice, she had seen money signs in her vision. Really sad because not only did she stop a show that was doing a lot of good, but she also single-handedly released all the other pedos back out into society. My heart breaks for all those kids these evil men harmed. If you ask me, the sister is as bad as her brother. I hope the internet bullies the heck out of her like the do to all the perverts they catch on the show.
Nobody deserves to die, regardless of how you feel about their activities.
@@danthemankhan i understand where your coming from but still I don’t feel bad for someone who attempted to hurt a child
@@danthemankhan but he wanted to die and did so whats the problem
@@juu4524 Do you feel this way about every suicide?
There’s a detail I actually never really paid attention to until now.....Someone he has known for over 20 years stood 10 feet away and watched him blow his brains out....
Damn....I can’t even imagine...
Oh damn
Can't imagine they gave a crap. They didn't care about kids, why would they care about adults? I assume they knew.
A former coworker of mine was caught in the Murphy, TX sting.
It looks like a cover-up to me and I bet this corrupt monster is still alive. What an evil world we live in.
That man put himself in that situation, nobody else put him there, he only had himself to blame, sometimes the people left behind just can’t except that, kind of sad really.
The sister is a greedy selfish person. Protecting an evil person, blood or not, is horrible. Also saught to gain monetary funds for themselves over it. Horrible
You know, if enough people wrote to the DAs office, they will be pressured to reopen the case and look into prosecuting those men whose charges were dropped
What the other DA said about consulting him first before making the arrest is absolute BS. Cops make arrests all the time for charges that DA's end up dropping for lack of time and resources to prosecute. Never does a cop ask before arresting someone. Why should a DA get special treatment. If your career consists of convicting people, maybe you shouldn't go out and try to get yourself thrown in prison with them. That's why this guy did that to himself. He was scared of what would happen if he was thrown in there. The DA's don't make the rules on arrests. The cops gather evidence and the judge makes sure they are following due process so they can get a warrant.
That southpark skit makes soooo much more sense to me now.
"YOU MEAN DERE AREN'T REALLY BROWNIEZ?!" 🔫
He had a serious case of not facing up to consequences. Too bad,so sad, how many kid's lives did he mess up?