What If Everything Went PERFECT For Mongolia?
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- čas přidán 18. 08. 2023
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Embark on an extraordinary journey into the realm of alternate history with our latest video: 'What If Everything Went PERFECT For Mongolia.' Join us as we delve into a captivating 'What If' scenario, imagining a world where Mongolia's history took an unprecedented turn towards perfection. From ancient times to the modern era, we explore the possibilities, triumphs, and far-reaching impacts of a Mongolia that achieved optimal outcomes at every step. Experience the strategic victories, diplomatic successes, and cultural achievements that could have shaped Mongolia into a dominant force on the global stage. In this exploration, we'll analyze the implications for neighboring nations, regional dynamics, and the broader world order. Don't miss this opportunity to witness the fascinating ripple effects of Mongolia's perfection across history. Like, comment, and subscribe to our channel for more intriguing 'What If' scenarios and captivating explorations of alternate history and its influence on our world.
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Soviet Union didn't win WW2 guys!
hi
bro made this entire video to prove that he isnt biased
Can you do these sorts of videos for fictional states as an exploration for how plausible those states and their achievements are, at least if you have exhausted major real life states for your videos? I wonder what your opinion is on how far Draka could have gone from its initial inception. IMO, not very far.
Yes, finally!!!
Well done man!🎉🎉🎉🎉
Mongolia lacked anything that would make a nation great ; a decent population, maritime access, a strong ideology as motive. It was the extraordinary leadership of Genghis Khan that paved way for temporary results but the downfall was inevitable
Same goes for their successors; even the Yuan Dynasty got wrecked by the Japanese.
Mongolia is ok when horse is THE best military equipment you can have but now yeah
@@DOSFS Indeed.
gengis khan was a mistake of history fr
@@kirilll7806 Naaaaaaah, he was a blessing from the skygod Tengri!
Sternberg’s Empire having competent diplomacy would be a large stretch, but would definitely be a necessary condition to change for this Mongol Empire
Sternberg had a very convincing dream where in which it showed him how to have competent diplomacy.
Source: I made it up.
That's kinda what happens in all these scenarios, you have to make a stretch to make the senario possible
Maybe if he switch sides and supported red army instead so soviet will spare them
@@user-lj1lz9pp4e although highly unlikely since he was well known for being a hardcore monarchist and massacring any suspected Bolshevik in his territory, that might work out if he also survived the great purges.
BARON VON UNGERN-STERNBERG IS THE GREATEST DIPLOMAT EVER. HEIL 😅
We need a “What if everything went perfectly for Poland” cause there would be so much to change in Poland’s favour
It's been done by a few other channels, but it's a good idea to get from this channel's perspective.
Agreed.
Great idea, but I feel there is way too many starting points
Do you start from the foundation of Poland? The Crusades of Varna? The founding of the Commonwealth? Or the restoration after WW1?
@@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500best could mean from the very beginning so either from the slavic tribes or the foundation of poland
This video made me realize how much Sweden and Mongolia are actually quite similar. Mostly irrelevant in history, except for one moment when they were extremely important despite having almost no population or resources due to having extremely elite troops and a few incredibly good leaders and pioneering new types of warfare no one had ever seen before. And both lost wars to Russians at the end of their period of relevance.
Course the Mongols had juuuuust a little more impact than the Swedes, but the comparison stands
Edit: replies getting wooooshed to hell and back about that last part lmao
Mongols had a massive impact on the entire world compared to Sweden.
I agree
>juuuuust a little more impact
Lol
"Just a little more"
Least delusional Nordic enjoyer
@@muwus328 I already edited this into OP, but clearly the message has not been heard:
r/woooooooosh
Moment of silence for the people thought that he was going to talk about how the mongol empire never fell
Hopefully my country (The Netherlands) will be featured at one point in the future as at our best maybe we wouldn’t have lost Belgium/Luxembourg or maybe the British gave back all our colonies after the Napoleonic Wars for example
PH itself is Dutch so it's pretty likely he makes one yeah
BELGIUM BELONGS TO THE NETHERLANDS! 😆
Dint we just have germany by dutch
@@electricangel4488 Not exactly, more like a mesh of Germanic tribes.
Artois, Boulogne, Sintpols, Vermandois, Cambray as well maybe!
Edit: and possibly east frisia,
7:00 The Asia map looks like the board game map of Risk.
Any chances for a what if everything went perfect for France? Whether it's France during the 100 Year war (I think they wanted to invade England but failed spectacularely), France during the Colonial era and its rivalry with England or France under Napoleon Bonaparte.
The 100 years war was a war between the Platagenet French and the Capetian French, the capetians won by securing their hold over france while the platagenets got relegated to England
My opinion is, the best way for France to stay a very strong nation in the 18th and 19th century is to not start all these Napoleonic wars, maybe even not a revolution at all. After his final defeat Napoleon left France with a demographic catastrophe. In the beginning of the 19th century France was the most populated country in Europe after Russia, but in the end of it it was one of the least populated among major powers. People are the basis of everything in the country, so this explains why France slowly lost it's place in the world.
@@kxmapper Napoleonic France could have survived if Bonaparte was not so prideful and stupid in the last coalition war. 3 things that would have saved his "empire":
not attacking Spain, not attacking Russia in the winter or accepting the Frankfurt proposals when it was offered (Napoleon would have kept his throne and a decent territory which included the Rhine, Belgium and a tiny part of Catalonia, if I'm not mistaken).
@@wargamesmaster yea, Napoleon could stay in power, but France was already devastated. You know, 20 years of constant war won't make your country better
@@wargamesmaster I think we can resume that with "don't put the continental system in place". It's essentially what forced the Peninsular War and Russian Invasion.
There is the question of whether he could ever have trusted the british not to undermine him, but as soon as he deemed an invasion of the Isles impossible, lasting peace with them should have been priority number 1.
Other minor factors to consider would be how Sternberg’s Mongolia of White Russians would be receptive to other former White Army warlords who would now be in the Axis. Two examples are Grigory Semyonov who was a Japanese supported warlord and eventually tied to Japanese intelligence in Manchuko, and Pyotr Krasnov who was with the Nazis in WW2. These individual previous warlords who allied with the Axis could be made leaders of these new Russian puppet states carved out of the USSR. Obviously there would be mass purges, but how these states interact with each other and as proxies for Germany and Japan during WW2 would be important and difficult to predict without further analysis. Then there’s also the Russian Fascist Party and how they might influence German rule in Russia as well as how the Russian puppet states had relations with this White Russian controlled Japanese puppet state of Mongolia. Depending on how the war goes these puppet states might not get along with each other depending on who rules them and how. Again, this is all difficult to predict and I guess beyond the scenario in some ways. But going with everything working well for Mongolia, they would make alliances with these new states and potentially declare independence from Japan with support from other warlords as Japan is defeated by the Allies. Mongolia would also need to find a way to switch to the Allies if it wants to remain with its current government and defeat Germany. This is all speculation based on the scenario, and you did a good job PH, this is just some additional considerations for the video. Again, it would all be different to predict and there are many moving pieces, factors, and conditions to change Mongolia’s circumstances in the scenario and again, well done PH.
The map of Chinese warlords from 0:43 to 2:13 is so brilliant and with historical accuracy, never thought to have seen such accurate map in alt-his vids with all those little Mongolian and Tibetan tribes been showed. For one from China, definitely want to see such video with a perfect PRC, ROC or even Tibet I guess. Magnificent work!
P.S.: I suppose that Aksai chin should be contrled by Chinese warlords in Xinjiang, for IIRC the Raj get that in 1947 in real life.
can you do What if everything went perfect for Poland vid? Lots of occasions to make it bigger (Conquest of Polabia, Moldova, Estonia, dodging partitions, napoleonic wars, ww1/2), if starting from 966 is too much you could start from 16/17th century.
@@eongerbeRussian nobles would overthrow the guy within a decade lmao
If the Polish-Swedish War of Unification went well and the guy established a good successor, the Poles would absolutely dominate Europe.
Great series, I enjoy watching before work in the morning. Here’s a video idea; what if everything went perfect for the Latin Empire? Byzantium/Eastern Rome gets all the attention, should give the Latins some love sometime.
You mean Western Empire. Latin Empire is a short lived Rump-state that replaced Eastern Empire after 4th crusade.
@@alexzero3736I mean the Latin Empire of Constantinople. Various other crusader states held out for far longer than they did
A "perfect" Latin Empire would be one that immediately assimilates into Byzantine culture and essentially just becomes the Byzantine Empire. Except you know, they pillaged a lot of it beforehand.
@@alexzero3736 no. he meant the latin empire. the one that was founded after the 4th crusade on lands captured from the byzantine empire
Cant believe that a scenario where everything went perfect for Mongolia is a "Germany won WW2 scenario" but with a Big Mongol confederation
Incredable video
TNO Mongolia burgsys great trial
This. This is the video of this series I’ve been waiting for!
4:08 Germany starts to do germany things.
You're a riot😂😂😂😂😂😂😂❤
*Funni moustache man liked this
I would reccommend a video about vietnam. Their history is underrated and its would be interesting to see vietnam recieve some recognition
"We are going to make roman von ungern sternberg a competent diplomat."
That's like saying you will make spongebob an alexander the great tier general. Roman von ungern sternberg was fucking insane.
this is certainly one of the alternate histories of all time
Best
yet another great video from possible history!
Alot more superior than whatifalthist!
Another amazing video
Man, Sternberg managing to rule such a country would be hella cursed
Dang that's a crazy scenario. But what if everything went perfectly for Luxembourg?
Luxembourg unifys the HRE under bohemia
I'm not sure it's realistic for the Germans to reach the Urals. Even if they manage to take Stalingrad, Astrakan and the North Caucuses Oil fields, that doesn't necessarily mean they would be able to reach Archangel or Moscow. A more realistic direction for this timeline's German-Soviet front might see the post-war border roughly following the Volga or something.
Great video!
You actually teach history. I love your vids.
Another Banger as usual
As soon as Sternberg appeared, I immediately thought of Kaiserredux for HoI4. Very epic
Genghis Khan is described as endowed with the highest intellect and a superhuman willpower , which enabled him to unite heterogeneous Turkic and Mongolian tribes into a single whole .
As a mongolian I support this
Buraid is mongol Russian
Amazing video! Please do one on Italy please 🙏🏻
"What if everything went perfect for the Ottomans" would be an interesting one.
THE MAPS ARE BETTER THAN EVER! this is really amazing!
What if the Alliance of three Emperors survived
Different WW1 most definitely.
YOU DID IT, I COMENNTED IN A VIDEO AND YOU DID IT, THANK YOU SO MUCH 😁
Watching alternate-history videos gives me ideas for Hearts of Iron 4 mods😅😂
Awesome
As a mongolian this vid makes me happy
Great video love to see one of morocco
You should make one about Brazil
This is basically the worst world scenario, which ironically boosted mongolia
Nice
Great vid! A one on the UK in the revolutionary war or something would be cool too.
good video
Oh,just from the thumbnail I know this will be great !
Thumpnail: perfection.
You truly deserve MORE subscribers man you rock🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
*Who else wants to see a part 2 where we find out what the situation in Europe would be?*
nice!
I didnt watch this video for days because i thought it was about the mongol empire but since this isnt the case, the video is surprisingly good
Is china next
That is, which one????:
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Prc
@@MrGamer-mb9ct Oh, guess West Taiwan 🇹🇼 will have to wait 😂
Do u mean smol china
A china with all it's historical territory (west central asia, north south east asia, korea, greater mongol region, vladivostok, etc etc) would be awesome
I'd love to see one about byzantium
It's possible that if this new Mongolia has a stronger regional influence than in otl, then perhaps they could create a sort of "Turkestan" nation in centralasia, composed mainly of Kazakhs. This would likely occur between WW2 and the aftermath.
Asked out the Mongolian girl in my class today, video couldn't come out at a better time.
Hi what you doing rn also could you do about what if Spain declared on France and joined the axis
Cool
Nice
There were 4 nations which have managed to defeat the 1200's Mongols in war ; Javanese (Majapahit), Turks (Khalji & Bahri Mamluks), Japanese, Vietnamese (Dai Viet). Mongols of the first half of the 13th century however were unstoppable
Major nations destroyed by the Mongols ;
-Jin(Tungusic)
-Khwarezmids(Turkic)
-Souther Song(Sinitic)
-Kara Khitais(Khitanic)
-Cumania(Turkic)
-Kievan Rus(Germanic and Slavic)
-Seljuk Rum(Turkic)
-Abbasids(Arabic)
-Western Xia(Qiangic)
-Volga Bulgaria(Turkic)
Interesting premise
Idea: "What if china used properly their inventions?"
This is gonna be good
What if tengri Mongols stayed in Europe instead on tatars
A good video idea would be a what if everything that people say that germany should have done to win ww2 happened like attacking dunkirk and things like that(germany would still have lose but its a interesting idea)
You should do more videos with hoi4 alt history, that one was so much fun xD
As a Tuvan, I beg you to make a video about Perfect Tuva since you made us get annexed
( THROAT SINGING INTENSIFIES!!! )
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Day 3 of asking for a scenario where Ireland won the rebellion of 1798, starting a domino effect of collapsing the British enpire
Colombian Here my country can be featured at one point in the future, Gran Colombia endures, we don't lose panama to the US and a certain drug lord can use all that money for the good of the country through legal endeavors isntead of drug trade.
It wouldnt have been easy to have the soviet union lose so bad. You did good man
@eongerbe if Japan invaded with half a million men, half a million men would have taken vladivostok and then frozen to death in siberia.
I know austria will be here someday i saw what videos he is gonna make like everyone else!
Please do Ireland next. You could start with Brian Boru please
I would like to recommend a concept for a new series you could do. The idea is that you take the place of a historical leader, and you choose what decisions to make as that historical leader based on what would be the most beneficial for the nation the historical leader you chose ruled over. The way you would go about doing this is you would base your decisions off of the knowledge you had at your disposal at the time. For example, you could do a video where you take the place of Louis XIV and you choose how you would expand the size, influence and power of France in the 17th and 18th centuries. Or you could take the place of Louis XV and decide how you could preserve the French empire in America and India. Perhaps you could even take the place of Louis XVI and decide how you could prevent the french revolution if you were in his position. A criticism you could levy at this idea is that it’s too similar to the series you’re already doing on “What if everything went perfectly for X”, but I disagree. Firstly, this series is about making decisions as a single person, not for an entire nation over the course of hundreds of years. Secondly, with your “What if everything went perfectly for X” series, you utilize the benefit of hindsight. With this series, you limit yourself to the knowledge of your chosen leader. You Don’t HAVE to do it this way, you could utilize the benefit of hindsight for this series too, but limiting yourself this way would help differentiate this series from your “What if everything went perfectly for X” series. You might as well try this idea on for a video and see how it performs. If it performs badly, you don’t have to continue it. But if it performs well, you could have another successful series on your hands. It is low risk, high reward. With how many historical leaders there are, the possibilities for this series are limitless! Some ideas for historical leaders to make videos on are Seleucus, Justinian, Louis the Pious, John I, Charles V, Phillip II of Spain, Charles XII, Peter III, Napoleon, Charles X, Napoleon III, Kaiser Wilhelm II, and so many more!
It's interesting in Mongolia modern history mostly forgotten there are alot a things missing first: war against china in that time Mongolia attacked china because of inner mongolia this was war mongolia military supplied by Russians they sent rifles machine gun and artillery mongolia was got modern military tactics weapons in this war Chinese got more manpower 70k soldiers in other hand mongolia got only 10k soldiers this war started in 1912 to 1915 mongolia was dominating china killed around 7k-4k casualties mongolians casualties was only 400 china was embarrassed about this war in 1913 mongolia lose there supplies Russians started to work with Chinese mongolia army stills holds Chinese army this war ended in 1915 Mongolians stopped this war with one agreement "Chinese soldiers have to leave inner Mongolians territory" mongolia army left inner Mongolians territory
But Chinese betrayed mongolia and attacked mongolia that's how mongolia lost .second: Baron didn't invaded MONGOLIA every time when i see People always think baron invaded mongolia but actually reality Baron soldiers helped Mongolians to take their independence in 1920 Barons 2k soldiers Mongolians 3k Cavalry attacked urge ( capital of mongolia ) fighting against 10k Chinese soldiers and won the battle
Chinese retreated but didn't get out the Mongolia territory Baron and Mongolians fight through Chinese army finally destroyed Chinese forces but not every one of them some Chinese divisions are in Mongolia 1921 mongolian revolution happened there are new Mongolians appeared Mongolia Revolutionary army communist Mongolians 4k soldiers attacked last few china divisions in Mongolia around 12k Chinese soldiers was robbing killing people but mongolia Revolutionary army supplied by red Russians stopped Chinese divisions now there are two governments in Mongolia first is bogd knanat mongolia second is Mongolian people's republic this is about to Civil war but bogd khan doesn't want to fight their brothers so they surrendered Mongolians Revolutionary army chased Barons soldiers in the end baron killed now mongolia become Mongolian People's Republic so that's basically done forgetting history of mongolia there alot a historian doesn't know about it BECAUSE IN WIKIPEDIA IT'S ONLY TRANSLATED MONGOLIA NOT ENGLISH THAT'S WHY PEOPLE DOESN'T KNOW ABOUT IT idk why they didn't translated i mean this is hole big history world doesn't know mongolia modern history's 60 percent mostly forgotten if you reading this holy shit.
Edit: i write this briefly there alot things i didn't even mention peoples names what happened in war who lead the mongolians army things like that.
Any chance for a what if everything went perfect for Romania?
I would start with either the 1600s with the first independence or the 19th century proper independence
I hope you will make a similar video about Libya❤
Mongolia fr saved the axis💪
you did mongolia im still waiting for that mexico video
It seems the throat singers are drooling at this scenario
I can already hear the throat singing before the Mongolian empire vid comes out...
Hoping for an episode with Poland, maybe after WW1.
Nice video, but can you please make a perfect modern Greece video? Day 8.
"What if Ataturk managed to conquer Greece?"
Day 3 of asking possible history to make a what if Germany united in late 19th century with Austria included timeline.
this was my idea :)
Devs: *buffs horses*
Random nomadic tribes in the middle of nowhere:
. o O
Make an episode about South Africa, Austria, Imperial Iran, Imperial China
I will re-ask again:
What if everything went HORRIBLY for (Country) ? Series.
You should do a "What if Everything Went Perfect for Finland"
Video Idea: What if the expedition of the thousand (Sardinian conquest of Sicily and Naples) failed, i.e what if Italy never fully unified.
The Title: What if everything went PERFECT for Mongolia?
The Video: What if the Axis Powers defeated the Soviet Union?
One about Spain would be cool
Do one for sweden soon
"I Really love Watching PH"
"What do you mean there is an a channel on youtube discussing alternative history that has these initials"
what if everything went perfect for finland
my idea is that after independence finland wins all the heimosodat, and the winter war is a success for finland
So basically, "Fatherland" but with Genghis LARPer running around in Central Asia.
Ok am I the only one more interested to see how this alternate WWII ends I still want to know who wins!
do you mind doing serbia later, im not sure if you take requests but it would be very appreciated
like it
What if Jaghatai Khan and the white scars legion landed in mongolia and decided to bring Earth into the imperium?
Day 69 of asking for what if everything went perfect for Romania
Note that Inner Mongolia population as a whole is 80% Chinese. (Though Mongol-Majority makes up the majority of land area). And Inner Mongolia has 24M population while state of Mongolia only has 3M. So unless some form of cleansing happens too much Inner Mongolia will make the greater Mongolia country become Chinese majority.
it will be like kaliningrad. all chinese would be expelled, killed or there is another war within south mongolian territory.
we're so back
What if the Russians never helped the austrians with the Hungarian revolt
You mean" what if Hungarian revolt won? "