Men, Sex, and Kevin Samuels
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- We're kicking off season 6 with our brother, Ezekiel Azonwu. Listen in as Ezekiel and Preston give us a sneak peek of what to expect on their upcoming We Need To Talk Tour. Culture discourages men from being in community, and many men are confused about their call and spiritual giftedness. But guys are crying out for discipleship and voices in close proximity to them that will build them up. Let’s talk about it.
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Don’t treat that man how culture tells you he is, but treat him how God says he is👏🏾🗣️ A WORD!
This was sooo good!
Woah! Powerful
Yes that was everything! 👏🏾👏🏾
The body is not interested....and we have become cold, lazy and waxed COLD.... especially towards our brothers. Feminist theory is subtlety flooding the church---the devil is rampant. *GOD BLESS YOU ALL FOR THIS DEEP DISCUSSION*
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@@asiarubin681it’s a scam, don’t fall for it
This is what my husband said: "I don't think it's as possible for a lot of male preachers to speak to the problems of men, because most male preacher's aren't conditioned to speak to their own problems. So I suspect it's easier for them to cater their messages to women."
WORD.
That is a word.
Agreed.
True!
Not only that, the women are right there, listening to them when they talk and they make up 90% of the audience. You’re going to feel like your sermons are bombing every time you talk about these issues. No amens.
They focus on the women issues because the women makes up the majority of the church and the most profitable market. Which is sad because the problem in marriage and the society stems from the issues that men have.
I don’t know who my husband is, but please LORD, allow him to have friends like this because he reflects this as well 🙌🏾🥰 Thank you for preparing me in advance in JESUS MIGHTY NAME, Amen
Amen!
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“Men that have been broken want to deal with the type of broken women that don’t challenge their own brokenness but rather caters to their brokenness in a way that makes them feel superior or allows them to avoid or escape what they need to do to step up as a leader.”
I’ve encountered this So Much!! That Really spoke to me!!! Thank u for this! So many gems!
It's not that men don't want to be challenged because men do that with each other all the time. It's that we don't want you to challenge us like men but rather like women. That's why Western men are looking to other women for wives, aka foreign women. Women have soft powers use it.
That was a whole word!!
This was me in my broken marriage for 16 years but now I am free and doing the work necessary to attract what God has fornke
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Man! This was literally the last guy I dated. To the t!
Yall just saved my marriage.. Thank you 3 for giving my husband and I vocabulary and dialogue for our issues with intimacy 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙌🏽
And most importantly, thank you JESUS. ❤
@@SpiritandProofPodcastyasss
Praise THE LORD! 💃🏾💃🏾💃🏾
Amen ❤❤❤❤❤ God bless you and your union 🎉
Glory to God
As a senior 70+, it's encouraging to see young people like these using their knowledge of the culture to uplift others. A wonderful gift from the Father ~~
Amen ❤
Amen.
Amen
Is that your real name, Marigold? I love it
I think more importantly is their understanding of scripture to combat what culture says we should do.
I am a single woman that felt trapped by genders wars and negative stereotypes to the point I felt like the dating pool was a waste land and there was no point trying.
Then I quit social media 😂
THIS!!!!!!!!!!
Yes!! Decided to take a month IG break that turned into 2 months and might go even further bc I don’t really miss it or these gender wars
😂😂😂
I'm off social media because people don't value real connections anymore.
Same here. I gave up all social media almost 1 year and I’m not going back. The Kevin samuels red pill community made me feel I wasn’t worthy of nothing. I spend my time studying it going to church, best decision I’ve ever made.
"Make enough money to hire a maid, but marry your friend" Preston Perry 🙏🏽🙏🏽
Even when Jackie is breezing past a subject she be walking HEAVY! 😂 I love that.
Facts!!
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Jackie threw the Bible then sat back like “look at my man” 😂😂
Righhhhhhttttt!!!! I love that!!
Yaaaaaaassssss…. I knew I wasn’t the only one watching her reaction to Preston 🗣️ that good word. It’s so freakin’ attractive, when a man is passionate about Jesus, their partner, and the kingdom.
I know 😂😭😭
Correct!!!😂
Yes that was so good! 😂😂😂 That made me chuckle 😅😅😅
"Men need to be both lion and lamb" that was amazing.
Y’all just saved my singleness by actually helping me prepare for marriage..❤
Exactly !
I am in the same boat
Thiss
Seriously, this is the most healthiest conversation on sex I’ve heard in my entire life.
100 percent!
You clearly are the wounded that they were talking about. How on earth did you glean judgment from what that lady said.....but you did not say a peep as to what Preston and Ezekiel gave an entire synopsis on the brokenness of that man and how his dogma was not Christ-like......but you have an issue with what Jackie said? Peace is debatable.....because unfortunately, that man was not at peace at his big age. He did not live the things that he preached in any type of way and the reason some men resonated with him is via their shared brokeness......period. I thank God for Ezekiel, Preston and Jackie for this conversation.
Preston : “RIP”
Jackie: “peace is debatable “
Right out the gate y’all starting 😂😂😂 I love it!
That 👏🏾cracked 👏🏾 me👏🏾 up😂😂
Where do they start talking about KS
"Peace is debatable", nothing about her saying that was Christ-like. This is why Men aren't in the church lol. This is suppose to be a "Christian" woman.
She's not God, yet, she's saying "Peace is debatable" just because a Man spoke truths she didn't agree with. Trying to judge others for not "modeling" something while your actions aren't even modeling Christ is the ultimate Hypocrisy lol.
It was the silence afterwards too! 😂
Bogus ungodly women or men would like or love it. Fake people hate the TRUTH KS was giving.
21:13 whew you said that! When we joined the church, our Pastor recruited my husband to be on the media team and he’s been consistently going to church for 3 years never missing a Sunday unless we were on vacation or had family in town. He goes more than I do 😂he’ll be on 4 hours of sleep on two wheels at church on time ❤ we’re blessed to have a church where the men have a heavy presence in the church and our very involved. Their men’s ministry is 🔥
❤❤❤ This!!! This is what the ppl need!! God bless you & your family!
This conversation is looooong overdue and did NOT disappoint!
While I deeply desire marriage, I am so grateful that I’m single at the moment and trusting God for a man who is healthy, healing, whole, and who has a healthy and godly perspective on men, women, sex, marriage, and relationships.
There’s so much brokenness and division in the world, the culture, and the church because of the enemy, and I’m so glad we are trying to be part of the solution and not add to the problem!
Wow you said this so well!!! Absolutely happy that I’m single for that same reason!
Pride is the issue. The women are prideful, the men are prideful and all down to the pastors are prideful. It is rare to see someone who wants to learn, who wants discipleship.
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Idk if it’s rare I think it just isn’t celebrated in culture
It's not rare. The young people want for it but are turned away or they just don't have that option in their church. I hear it from women, but this is the first that I've heard it from men and it makes so much sense.
@@mkslim732 I agree with this statement.
That’s a small way to think of it . What’s does someone that wants to learn look like on the surface ? Bc how would you know without having necessary conversations?
Men are complex, but simple. Beautifully created by God. Ive been guilty of putting men in a box because they're so strong and often times silent in their actions. Whew. Love this podcast.
What do you think makes us complex?
@@cgetFor me, its the lack of self awareness lol You guys just don’t have a good framework for labeling your feelings and stuff. In my opinion 🩷 Not yalls fault - just the way society kinda formed you guys.
Good News is Jesus has a lot to say about your value 💕
@@cybercowgirl5711 I respect that
Men are not complex. Women are the ones who constantly shift according to the culture. Men respond to that. We are silent because we just want to keep our peace without having to argue.
@@cget I think it's the compartmental aspect of men. Men can get the job done despite being hurt if that makes sense. Which to me or just watching from the outside puzzles me. Makes me believe that sometimes men are strong and they don't need as much compassion because you guys process information and hardships way differently than women do. That's why I said I've been guilty of putting men in boxes and not seeing them as human as they are. Blew my mind.
I watched this video with my sister bc we were both cleaning around the house and realized we were watching the same video in our head phones. We watched the video together on the tv, talked for hours… and got very little done b4 our mom came home. 😅 Such a NEED conversation, so much to take away from it, even for woman.
Such a beautiful moment ❤
Divorce is never the way out, My wife and I have been having issues before I sort out help from a spiritual adviser,i wasnt going to let my marriage of 18years crash
@@LenParliament5 well not the orthodox way but i was referred by a friend to a spiritual adviser and healer
@@LenParliament5 her name is *Victoria Lee Hess* ,and she is a great spiritual adviser as well as caster
you can look her name up online and you will find all you need.
I didn't want this convo to end!
Yes! We need a part 2.🥹
Yes PLEASE!
I know right. It's going in my library😂 I keep pausing and coming back and each time I just want to !! exclamation mark. 😂😊 Man what!
Same
Agreed!
This may be unpopular but I’ll share it anyways. The Bible says that whoever wants to be the greatest among us must be a servant. He also says that lording it over people (usually what a lot of men seem to mean when they talk about leadership) is not what is expected from His followers. In my observation, the reason a lot of men aren’t in the church is that men have only been taught one-way submission, both in the culture and in the church. They think “leadership” is connected to “lordship” and have absolutely no context whatsoever about how they also need to submit as men, so when they find themselves in situations that do require their voluntary submission (ex. to the pastor), they don’t have the framework to handle it. It’s the same reason that underlies why women tend to have an easier time with church structure. This is not about how we’re wired, this is pure social conditioning.
Truth!
TRUTH! I’m not just saying that because I’m a woman. This is real!
The Lord led me to this video and I don't even have a man rn but the wisdom yall are imparting is major for men AND women who are preparing for their husband's arrival!!!! Thank you Jesus for these great teachers
I love everything about this. 10/10. I even find joy and watching Jackie adore her husband walking out his gift to a level of excellence
Same. I saw that too.😊
@@brandyfriend221 yes!
I don’t think y’all know how much I needed this. I’m 18, just started my first relationship, and I’m so lost, because my parents are the prime example of a broken man who married a maid. I have these intimate questions with no example in my life of a Godly relationship and what it entails. Yes it’s important to remain celibacy, everyone knows that, but like you said, the potential of a relationship isn’t just physical or if you find them attractive and look at that, they’re Christian. What does a Godly relationship look like emotionally? In practice? It’s not just praying together, though important. Would you be FRIENDS with this person. So thank you, from the bottom of my heart.
Before you fix this image of your parents in your mind, why don't you go ask your mother if she feels like she's just a maid married to a broken man.
You might be surprised at what answer she gives.
Define your morals, standards, and how love/respect/communication etc means to you and never bend! Talk to your parents and understand their story also bc there probably is sooo much more to where you have came in their life now :)
And remember, he’s only one person! Don’t ever get so attached you forgot you came in this world by yourself and there are SOOO many amazing men out there
@@AlexMinorwhy didn't u tell her to talk to her dad? Also implying people can not recognize dysfunction especially children.
@@onethree123d I told her to talk to her mother to get additional context for her mom’s situation.
She perceives her mother as a “slave”. Her view may be biased or inaccurate because she only has a child’s knowledge of events. If her mother likes or even loves her situation and is happy filling her role for her husband/family and wants to do it, would that still constitute slavery?
@@AlexMinor lol. Yes what women do is slavery period. But ignore that why would a child use broken man and slave. You're full of it and I see through you.
What a powerful conversation! MARRY YOUR FRIEND IS KEYYYYYY, being with my husband has taught me men are simple, Society has made them appear complex. Ready to feed each other not feast each other---EZEKIEL!!!!!
i love how women listen to what a society full of women says about men, instead of listening to the men they wish to understand.
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I’m only 21 so I’m glad to be getting this wisdom this young. Almost fell into the KS trap, but this podcast convicted me heavily. People like y’all and Tony Gaskins are extremely anointed in what y’all teach and preach. Thank y’all so much and God bless!
I’m 29, started listening to KS around 23. KS was a great influence on me personally because he taught us about fashion & how to dress as a Man. And, he pushed Men to work hard & obtain some type of career or profession. So, I want you to understand KS was more than talking about relationships. So, to say it was a trap would be wholly undermining his broader mission & that was to help men! I’m a lawyer now, so let that sink in!
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@@BjtheLawyer_ , Thank you for putting it in words succinctly and objectively.
Mr Samuels represents what is needed, but is lacking in the culture.
So minimizing that purpose,to emotional feelings alone,is doing one self a disservice.
Building a house on a sandy soil,in a dry season without knowledge of both raining and dry season.
And the understanding of how seasons affects the soil and why it impacts the building,you build on it,is recipe for a diasterous fall of the build, during raining season.
KS shows this, through demonstration of critical reasoning ability,in terms of skill,tools and rules of his engagement, to find the suitable nature of mind for the value you wants to cultivate in it,as your legacy.
@@BjtheLawyer_ Kevin Samuels said a lot of truth but also said a lot of falsehoods and gave good and bad advice to women too. It is better to listen to someone in Christ than someone in the world. It was the Holy Spirit himself that taught my husband to dress well and he in turn helps his friends with that too. I’d much rather prefer someone rooted in Christ leading other Christians than someone like Kevin Samuels leading Christians.
@@user-ve3ig8de8s Crazy part was Kevin Samuels was Christian and grew up in the church. Also, your husband didn’t just one day start dressing good or have swag. It’s something you have to be exposed to in order to get ideas! However, please do not minimize Kevin Samuels impact because the man have over a million subscribers for a reason. He knew what he was talking about. And as a lawyer and someone who informs others myself. Kevin knew what he was talk about and he was on point. From a secular standpoint he who men & boys should listen to for wisdom! You don’t think God gave him the platform to be able to reach millions? Because if you’re Christian you know that messages and lessons can come from anybody. Don’t be so quick to choose who you want to listen too, instead of who God places in front of you to listen too. There’s a difference.
Man, I was watching this episode, and right at the end, about healing the boy in men… I just broke down and cried. Spoken right to me. Wow!
Preston is lowkey becoming a role model for me. Young man to young man, inner city kid to inner city kid. Thank god for you all…but I gotta give my man his flowers…Ezekiel love man! Jackie of course we love you too lol! Can’t wait for the tour.
For sure his glow up is impressive!
I really hope many people can listen to this and be renewed because we are all hurting and we need this. This is indeed timely.
Try to report the fake account that responded
@@WITHTHEPERRYS-Let your feet fall in the net you set for God children.
I'M so happy I made productive decisions about my finances that changed my life forever, hoping to retire next year... Investment should always be on any creative man's heart for success in life.
@@tanjakovacic9188Wow you know her too? I even thought I'm the only one she has helped walk through the fears and falls of forex trading.
I've never heard or seen any of her clients complain of lost....I think she is just too perfect..
@@birgiteder7923Something similar happened to me in my case I traded with nothing to show for it until contacted an expert who trades and makes a good profit for me weekly
@@birgiteder7923Please I have been hearing about this Expert Mrs Jeffrey Kathryn from a colleague at work how do I easily get to her?
invested in stock but it seems crypto is more beneficial.
I grew up with my father and he was a pastor but he didn’t know how to relate with his kids. He didn’t know his father and he didn’t have a man figure. So in turn I became a man but I didn’t know how to be one. I walked by myself. When I became a father I freaked out and almost ran because I was always told I couldn’t do anything right. But GOD!!!!! I talk to few young men about keeping themselves away from sin and immorality.
It is hard to walk alone and be in solitude. We need to help each other.
The friendship part...MY GOOD GOD!!! SOOOO GOOD!!! This is such a good pod! WOW Thank you all so much for this one!!!🔥🔥🔥
Watu wa 254, I see you!
Jackie you hit this on the head. Some men enjoy men more than women. So true
The same can be said for us women. Guilty 🤚
Women are married to their careers, their pets, their family and especially their girlfriends who are single but are married, most of these woman don't have the energy to deal with their husband's
Definitely women are majorly guilty of this. Speaking for myself as well
The "what" isnt important. The "WHY" is
As a man I never understood that. My wife has to be my best friend or something is very wrong.
"God wants men (and women) to depend on Him, more than on strategy". NOW THAT! 🎯 Thankyu 3 for this phenomenal convo. This is truly the sum of it all 🙌🏾
And when Preston said "bathe with unscented soap" 🤣🤣 I died!
Is it just me, or do y’all love the Perry’s?!!!! This podcast gave me soo much excitement but also insight as a young woman and what we can do and NEED to do. It’s not just serving, it’s the HOW that’ll shake the earth and build the body of Christ❤
I wish I was on this couch ! As a woman who's been married for 10 years to a man who idolized Kevin Samuels and men like him, THIS CONVERSATION IS NEEDED! I needed this, so I know men need this. Thank you!😊
Praying for you, sis 😮💨
Most Men think like KS. If you have a problem with that then date women lol.
@kingstrong5351 Your comment is insensitive and not necessary. Just because most men think like him, doesn't mean it's OK.
@@kingstrong5351most men? No. I’m sorry I don’t agree with that as a married woman. My husband would NEVER take advice from a man who has not succeeded in marriage. His parents and my parents have been married over 30 years and if my dad saw KS he would think that its not a man worth emulating. If you’re divorced twice, you ARE the problem.
@Jojo-pv3uf have you stopped to think that he learned from mistakes and he's trying to open people eyes to what is breaking up marriages.
Ex: if a recovered crack addict starts telling people don't do drugs. Is he disqualified from telling people that because he was on drugs?
WOOO! Preston was PREACHIN' preachin' today! I reacted like his proud wife, Jackie, the whole episode. LOL! I can tell God has given Preston much wisdom on male-female relationships because he spoke with such clarity, conciseness and quick wit. I'm excited to see what God is going to do through Preston and Ezekiel. Jackie, thanks as usual for asking much-needed questions and offering your insights. SPLENDIFEROUS EPISODE! I've learned how to relate better with men, including my dad, brothers and male co-workers. 49:00 Also, when Ezekiel hit us with the story of Jesus washing the disciples' feet, I had to run to the Ephesians 5:25 when Paul writes, "Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word,..." I never connected that with Jesus literally washing feet with water, but it makes so much sense. Jesus was modeling servant-leadership to husbands. Wow! And Peter initially rejected Jesus' offer, but he learned to receive. That mirrors what some women might do-not respond to leadership, as Jackie pointed out. WOW! This episode really blessed me! Thank you, God!
Yes! God has been dealing with me a while on this, and I feel like this episode touched on everything from a man's perspective. This was SO needed. This is gonna out live us. Why? Because it's the gospel truth. So excited
I literally can’t get over how GOOOODDD this episode is and I’m not even finished yet 😭😭😭
On the men at church-- I’m a woman lol but from watching over 15 yrs at my church and seeing what my Pastors (husband&wife team example as Pastors)offer the men together and most importantly my Pastor Joe as a man of God himself individually provides as an example for men I believe I can accurately say thru observation that--… my church is rare because men join, serve and are faithful. No one is forcing them to come. No pressure. I believe men need a place to be vulnerable, where it’s safe to share, where there’s consistency, support, be recognized, allowed to grow from where they are, see a strong example of a man of God that works and know that they are loved and are important. I see this actively done at my church. We have mens gathering called Brave every month-150 plus men come out on a Sat morn to get encouragement from our Pastor and fellowship with each other. It’s a beautiful thing🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾💙🙏🏾 I pray this miracle for all ministries .
Deep episode. You guys are often warning/teaching how to find the right spouse (which is awesome) but if you get a chance, please speak to those who may not have married wisely but have no intention of breaking up their family unit. I know a few Christian, suffering marriages where there is no foundational friendship or respect. I know you guys aren’t in that position but I’m sure you have some wisdom for it.
Thankyou for your content! Ya’ll get me through alotta dishes!
Felt this! There are definitely some of us praying and waiting for Godly leadership in our marital home.
Sis, I really hope you receive a response. For years I commented under Christian content in the same vein but never received a response. I’m now divorcing, not because I didn’t feel exactly as you did, but because there were also safety issues in my marriage. But I too STILL would like to hear teaching on what to do when in a marriage entered into against conventional godly wisdom. Thank you for this content!
@@bruci8717not to like be that person or anything but I literally just watched a video that mentioned divorce that is on “Richard Lorenzo Jr”s channel and the woman divorced her husband but the Lord led her to repent because Christian’s are not supposed to divorce unless due to adultery in the relationship or if the other person asks. Im sure you’ve already prayed on this but maybe just ask the Lord the next step and if your situation calls you to repent
@@jada7940
True. Amen to this.
Do people really think that because God says "adultery and if the unsaved person wants to leave" means physical abuse isnt grounds for divorce? God gave us common sense for a reason. We have instincts as humans to protect ourselves from harm. You dont stay with someone who beats you because God doesnt directly say you can divorce if physical abuse takes place. Its clear in other passages that abuse is unacceptable behavior. If you want to separate but not divorce right away and give the person a chance to repent/change, thats fine but if they dont get help, you are just delaying the inevitable. They will eventually move on to someone else (adultery). Also, i would guess 9 times out of 10, if physical abuse is present, they are probably cheating too. No respect.
The problem is that Western churches operate like lecture classes instead of workshops. When you take a workshop, EVERYBODY has to participate. You can't "attend" a writing workshop without bringing in your work. You critique others and you get critiqued.
The ONLY ministry I ever participated in where there was gender balance (or too many men on some occasions!) was a ministry based on training people up to go out to evangelize, heal the sick, and cast out demons. Like if you got saved last week, you fittna be sharing your testimony and praying for people this week! And there was no just "getting saved." You getting baptized ASAP and we pulling on the Holy Spirit to cast these demons out and get you filled with Holy Spirit on Day One. There was NEVER a shortage of men. That's what a "workshop" looks like in a church setting. Faith is built as we do the work. Courage is built as we see God show up. We're able to serve the Lord fully once we get free from demonic oppression.
"The kingdom of God is not a matter of talk but of power." (1 Corinthians 4:20)
The Christian church needs to talk less and DO more, period.
This is good 🔥
Yes!
Love this. Was thinking about this recently. Was that church in the US?
@@simismith9093 No. It was a training ministry started in Europe but I participated in the US. They’re not as active now as they were (for reasons too numerous to state here) but there’s still useful teachings up: czcams.com/video/a85qbaE7RAQ/video.html and this is one of their mini-documentaries: czcams.com/video/dPN8tJO1z-E/video.html
Well,the examples were the King of Kings The Messiah and the Apostles themselves=Action💯..Without the power of the Holy Spirt there is no action but alot of words..Also watch out for words without actual scriptures backing them,but are intellectual worldly with flattery.
The part about lust really struck me. This conversation was powerful, we need more male leaders in the church! ❤
I’m a woman and Amen to all of this!!! My church took the opportunity to celebrate all the men of our fellowship on Father’s Day.
That's good but it needs to be more then a say. Us men go thru a lot. One thing I would say is Kevin Samuels if you like you're my lover he had men so you know what you have standards if women have standards you have there's two and don't deviate from that like them gentleman said a lot of people who have a problem they don't nobody know what created a monster you're toxic your this and that if you could give women Grace that you could give me Grace to cuz that's plenty of men who have been hurt by vindictive women try to be in their child's life I've had the worst child's mother the world she wasn't like that in the beginning but that is my fault and I've written her right but a lot of men have done that are we get the short end of the stick marriage or divorce or anything so we need a dress that it is another way lot of these podcasts a date love to paint it to him that's okay but call it straight down the middle
@@mimiandlondon7888 It was a full on celebration; just didn’t share all the details.
Regarding the church catering to women, I definitely agree. There are many women's conferences, many female Christian speakers and preachers. But I don't think that the church purposefully caters to women over men because they see us as better consumers, I simply think this is because women are more active within the church. More women attend church, more women are willing to participate and contribute to ministry. For example, my church has a men's ministry that is led by one of the pastor's, but they are barely active (although I have attended churches where the men, although still fewer in number, are quite active). Meanwhile, the women's ministry is a lot more active and social. I don't believe the church is catering to women, I think more women are showing up and reaping the greatest benefit that church provides, which is community. But that sense of community lacks equilibrium if men do not also receive it.
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Exactly.
I have a true question: as a man - do you not benefit at all from being around other believers even if they are women? I guess I’m confused on what’s the difference between the word of God with more men in the building and the word of God without more men in the building? Does that make any sense? lolol
@@cybercowgirl5711Of course there is benefit to being around believers whether they are men or women, and the word of God does not change. But just as women need other women to disciple and lead them, men need other men, and it doesn’t work when those roles are mixed up.
"Why Men Hate Going To Church" by David Murrow provides reasons why men don't go to church.
The men misunderstanding leadership and headship, while the women misunderstand submission.
In fairness, the men misunderstand submission too.
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@@meh3766 Yes, this admission is also key.
@@meh3766
Amen and so true !!!❤❤❤
Men don't even read the Bible and nitpick one scripture and say it over and over.
All we hear from men is
"wife you need to bow down and be submissive to me . That means I am the leader and the boss of you and you don't have a voice or rights, so be silent "
Men are pathetic
this conversation is everythiiiiiing👏🏿🔥 honestly softened my heart towards men and convicted me to move differently in my future dealings with my brothers in Christ🙌🏿
Same🙏🏾
Whew!! This was awesome.
As a mother 3 adult sons under 30 years of age. That were raised with Christian doctrine. It has been very hard to find a adult Christian man to mentor them, at least one son. I shared this to all three f them.
A good conversation indeed. Showing men how much they're needed in every community is so important.
The switch to Nigerian accent got me hollering 😂😂. Could literally picture the woman saying all that.
Thank you Sirs and ma'am!! 🙌🙌🤗
🤣🤣🤣too funny
So funny. I laughed out loud 😂😂😂
That whole Tantrum comment was so spot on. I’ve actually spoken to the broken boy within my husband during an argument, I literally called forth the grown man to the conversation. I waited right there in that moment for my husband to show up as the man he’s called by God to be. Thankfully he’s in counseling to help process thru the unresolved brokenness.
"I love y’all but y’all don’t come before Jackie" !!!!! Yesss as it should be!
Love this! Friendship is the goal!! Marry somebody you like!! 🙌🏽
Heard it before in spotify, it was gold, came back to see Jackie's faces and reactions 😂👌
Me too😂😂
Ezkekiah's reactions to this convos are the hype side man we never knew we needed. Ya'll finna talk for hours and hours if this was not meant to be uploaded. ❤❤😂
This was a powerful and beautiful conversation, I enjoyed this. I pray one day I am surrounded by friends who can share these deep and meaningful conversations.
This was amazing and I’m not even married. However, while listening to this, I had an urge to pray for my own brothers and the men in my work space. As a teacher, I know that men often feel unseen and unappreciated in a female dominated profession. I pray that they feel seen, know they are needed, and most of all, feel fulfilled in their own marriages. Y’all, please do this again.❤❤
“peace is debatable” 😭😭😭😭
I am glad you all spoke of the Nation’s impact. I lived right next to the Masjid in the West end, more then 60% of the old heads grew up in church and said they believed in the Bible but the Nation showed them practically and through logical thought he any questions they had but the church leaders shunned them for asking.
This is a reminder to be praying for them like I use to.
The way they protected our household, and they knew we were Christian’s.
The Lord is moving, there is nothing too hard for Him.
Can we get a part 2 of this? This was a great conversation ❤
Many don't have fathers or father figures and coming into a church do not want to "submit" to another man because that is not something they had to do that at home.
Poets in Autumn is where I first came across these three amazing people! Lyrically, naturally and most of all spiritually, y’all are some beasts ❤❤❤ Thank you for using your platform to restore, reintroduce, and reconnect the people with God 🎉😊😌
Wherever my kingdom man is, I pray he has access to edifying words like this. This is lovely. I pray he has a community of men who understands Jesus and mirror him, I pray ha has a covering. IJN.
So powerful. So much to unpack. This is a conversation that needs a part 2. With special emphasis on how to help heal the wounded child in our men; and how to help them be the men God initially designed them to be.
We need a part 2 for the conversation please!!
This whole episode was awesome. Thanks guys
Jackie said “They?! I’m not a pronoun” 😂
As a leader in the local church and identifying the same issues discussed, I appreciate this insight. It helps to hear biblical doctrine and solutions about these problems. It helps even more to be able to immediately implement the solutions within the church culture and systems. Keep teaching. Y’all are helping. Big love to y’all.
❤ Thank you for being open to address and implement some of the things shared ❤ Blessings
"I had that in my brain I'm glad you said it "" one flesh" 🤯🤯😭😭 sheshhhhhhhhh
Speaking on discipleship; my brother has been sitting with Jehovah's Witnesses, two men are assigned to him to teach and answer questions. This is impressive to me cuz I belong to a small church and if I wasn't a greeter my Pastor probably wouldn't know my name. I have been in church for double digit years and discipleship has never been a thing.😢😢
Wow! This put things in perspective
I love this topic. As a woman raised by a man I’ve been very intrigued by men’s mental health and development. Our beings differ in so many ways yet I understand them so well. This deepened my understanding and sparked up new research for me to do! I’ve shared this with a load some of in my life, I hope they are able to grasp this knowledge and let it lead them the right way
Loved this episode! It was such a gift. Please bring Ezkekial on again
My slam poetry coach introduced me to "Almost Saved" just before my senior year of high school. That's when I realized I could do this thing that I thought was so cool for Jesus. My sister bought me the tour DVD a few years later.
Wheeeeewwww this was so good. I’m so glad you guys are having these conversations!
Thai is so enlightening! This whole section 16:15 talking about messages aren’t catering to men is so true. I rarely hear messages on pain men experience in rejection or any topic other than being the head of their family.
Y’all got me up past my bedtime. This conversation was so open, healthy and spiritually driven. I would have never believed that some men actually seek help or is vulnerable enough to express that to their partners. Todays podcasts pits black women against men and the source is lack of knowledge and faith
Man I really loved that front to back. Thank you guys so much. These videos and conversations never miss!
This was a great discussion. We need a part two on this topic. Fellas all the best with the tour.
This whole conversation is GOLD
This session is fire. From biblical truth to Jackie’s side eye and passion, it was so nice to hear and see very difficult things talked about from a biblical and candid perspective. So many awesome things here. Thank you.
This video is sooooo powerful. Thank you so much for this video to help us really dive in to the real issues. This helps me and others pray more for our men!!
Thank you!!!! Yall are all up in my brain. 😂 I'm about to celebrate 30 years of marriage in a few days and I'm still learning. ❤❤❤
Can’t wait to listen to this episode.. I missed you guys and your deep conversations. Love your Podcast!
My Pastor actually just told me the answer to the question at 27:50 recently. The problem with the church, especially the black church, is that the Hebrew Israelites, Muslims and the "Red Pill Community" don't lack Accountability. The lack of accountability is what is hurting our communities the most. The problem is always someone else has a fault/problem and no one feels like they should be the one to solve any issues. The old blame the young, the young blame the old, women blame men, men blame women, ETC. We have to be accountable.
This was so good! It also felt so short. . . God bless your ministry. Praying God raises men in my community with a heart for young men too. ❤
This was hearty! I really appreciate this! 🙏🏾
Every time y’all bring 🔥!! So much wisdom!
This is by far one the best episodes I have watched. Thank you for this. These things need to be discussed more.
INCREDIBLE! Thank you for these conversations and strengthening the Body!
This was amazing. I appreciate everything that Preston and Ezekiel shared. I learned alot. ❤
I heard somewhere that it's important for the body to build sibling relationships also so men and women can speak life into one a another without the expectation of a romantic relationship .
Yes but finding solid trustworthy brother or sister in Christ is extremely difficult . It's extremely sad, nobody wants their personal baggage reshared.
@beeaboutabbabusiness8738 Agreed. I think it also takes discernment. Some things you should only go to the father with. Everything doesn't need to be shared with everyone.
Of course another beautiful podcast! Where is the petition to just make this 60 Minutes With The Perry’s.
Can’t wait for the tour!
I can't stop watching this episode, it's that good! Can't wait to meet you guys in November in London. God bless you all for addressing these issues
Wow, this just so happened to pop up on my feed. And as a single man. This was a great conversation.
This is toooooo good!! I always ENJOY conversations where these trio feature. This is a gift. Thank you 💗.
Our men need this! Lord help us build more people like you to continue his works in the church and outside the church 🙌🏾
one of the best podcasts I’ve ever listened to … thank you 🙏🏾💯
This I was so needed and it was excellent information! Thank you!😌👏🏾🙌🏾❤️
I am new here, but I have to say this woman has GREAT questions. I love how they force people to think.
THIS IS EVERYTHINGGGGGG THANK YOU.
as a woman, it helped me definitely lay down my resentment pride ego hurt pain and have more compassion.
I feel like I can get there sometimes but sometimes I struggle with the past traumas of my marriage. Thank you.
Definitely helps me more than anything to be honest about my walk with Christ and my personal discipleship and surrendering. 💙
This is a much needed truthful conversation. Thank you for having it unapologetically
My my my… this is so good! Thank you Perrys for posting.