In depth look at a ThyssenKrupp Isis Elevator (Cartop ride/elevator surfing and Pit view)
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- čas přidán 3. 09. 2016
- I don't think this has ever been seen online before but here is a detailed look at a ThyssenKrupp ISIS. PLEASE NOTE!! NEVER attempt ANYTHING you see here! This was done in a controlled environment with proper clearances. Sadly this elevator is no more however it lives on in the elevaTOURS elevator museum.
Disclaimer: 1:05
Look around the cartop 1:45
Inspection speed to top: 3:20
look at top of shaft and pulleys and governor 4:00
Inspection speed down 4:45
look at counterweight 6:20
Inspection speed up with shaft view. 8:25
full speed ride with counterweight view 11:20
full speed ride with shaft view 12:40
Pit view 13:59
Photos 14:45
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Thanks for the in depth Thyssenkrupp Isis Elevator View, Diesel Ducy!
It's amazing that modern elevators don't need gigantic machines in a big room over the shaft any more. Just a tiny motor and some small gears at the top of the shaft. Awesome video DD!
Yeah. Elevator tech is amazing. Check out Thyssenkrupp's website and you will see they are developing a new elevator system called "MULTI"
hey DieselDucy i was working in a building on guard duty about a good distance away and i got to watch them build the elevator, it was very interesting to see and witness
My Dad worked on elevators for almost 40 years. He always has very interesting stories to tell about his time as an elevator constructor. He retired from it five years ago, and now he works as an elevator inspector.
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That was really cool, and is awesome that you could give us a demonstration of this from the safety and comfort of our own home! If I wanted to do this, I would definitly want to do it safely and legally!
Same man
At my dads work they have a giant crane along the ceilings of these 2 buildings made for fish counting and loading of the fish truck (he works at the department of water resources fish facility) and the cranes have a remote and it runs similar to this. There are multiple speeds for leveling, except the cranes go both vertical and horizontal
I’m never been on the top of an elevator car before. I’m never ever going to go on a cartop of an elevator like I’ve seen in this video because I am very nice and smart! I will always ride the inside of the car where it’s much safer!
Wow! I did not know that you could control the elevator from up there, because I did not know that it could be done! That was really interesting.
as i RARELY watch your videos these days. (personal reasons). this had to be a required watch. I remember riding this a few times in 2014 and 2015. if only we could have ridden together.
+Appalachian Elevators it is being replaced by a schindler 330a
DieselDucy they could've installed a Schindler 3300 or a Schindler 5500 as a newer installation instead of a Schindler 330a
+Jordan Lowe ElevaTours Canada Agreed or a Schindler 3100.
Nicely done!
That sure seemed like a small motor in the pit.
Really good video!
that white "computer" in the pit is a UPS (Uninterruptible Power Supply) for the sump pump. AKA a battery backup. Same type of thing that will keep your computer running in a power outage.
dieselducy: i will not be showing you how to do this
meanwhile the panel on the top: labeled with what each button does
Yep
Also great job on this video love it!!!
Awesome video!
Is that as fast as they go with full speed? And is it possible to get smashed at the top while riding on the top of the elevator if you’re not careful? And thank you for the video. I was thinking of doing this as a career but I’m not really a heights kind of person or I’m worried I’d fall off into the shaft or get crushed at the top. But I’m sure with enough training you get over your fears. :o lol.
Great video!
Cheers for that👍l only ask you last week for a look in the pit,,,,,thanks again and have fun
So are you a certified and licensed elevator tech as well, my work has 18 thyssen cars, super fast ones too.
Thanks, DieselDucy.
You’re welcome ☺️
Another short-lived model produced by ThyssenKrupp was the Studio. However, unlike the ISIS, It was available as both a hydraulic and a traction.
yeah. It was a neat button.
@@DieselDucy I know where there's one.
I was once hired as an apprentice elevator mechanic whooo! I lasted half a day on safety training day I kindly told management this was not for me and split, see I grew up in Los Angeles drop me off in Watts I'll do ok but have me build elevators in new construction and I'm a kitten in a tub full of cold water, that being said I commend you brother for your work.
The videos over. But it doesn't have to be. You can always watch more and you know what to do.
Two questions: is the 2:1 a similar thing to how some theatrical counterweight systems are weighted - like when they don't have a full fly? How does one actually fit a new car and system into an existing shaft - is the car flatpack and built in the shaft effectively?
lol one time my Dad took my sisters (who were 9 and 7 years old at the time) and I (16) for a tour at his work and he took us to the freight elevator pit in the building's sub basement. We were looking up into the shaft at the bottom of the freight elevator car.
Hey Dieselducy, thanks to your videos along with another access hoist way video, i was able to ride on the top of an elevator thanks to your inspiration. Unfortunately, i was later caught by local authorities but it was fully thanks to you on why this happened. I rode the elevator at full speed as well and was badly injured... the stuff we do to have a good time
if you're blaming dieselducy then its your fault idiot
not dieselducys fault. you ignored his warnings at the beginning of the video. he warned at the beginning of the video to not try this ever
You are probably making stuff up too about your riding in top and it's your fault 100% for the trouble you got into if it was true.
That is awesome! Too bad this elevator was torn down. Even though ThyssenKrupp ISISs didn't have the best track record, they really weren't terrible elevators. And since they are so rare, they have become a treat to enthusiasts. I hope you got lots of good parts from this thing!
They tore this down?
RedLight GreenArrow This building is being reconfigured into apartments, and sadly this elevator was torn out. The freight elevator is coming out next.
I've heard stories about people getting crushed in the top... why do they not build ceilings that are further up to allow a gap?
@DieselDucy This is the Yamato Harada EVO Center's lift but riding the lift is safe. *Except for the cartop ride!
Wow is that the standard inspection speed on the Isis or has it been altered most likely , molasses slow haha that was a fresh install wasn't fully tuned yet perhaps
Cool video! This elevator is a bottom-drive 2:1 MRL.
+DJJack 1229 yes it is
Those inspection controls are look so much different than the fixtures in the UK, but the operation princple is the same to push both enable and up or enable and down. In the UK we have turn switches usually for Inspection/Normal instead of push for inspection here. Push to stop is pretty much the same. Also didnt see a door open switch / close here either.
Except that you have to first enable inspection service from inside the car with a special key. After that (The doors are still open) you can lower the elevator from a landing keyswitch to access the cartop.
In theory you could just send the car to the floor below and open the landing door with the drop key (Like we do in Europe) but I don't know if the cartop controls would be working without prior activation of the in-car "inspection service" keyswitch.
I have a question why the people pushing the button repeatedly is the button light is on?
That thing in the pit you called a computer is a ups ( universal power supply) more than likely. If they lose building power that ups will run the sump pump for awhile. 👍
My house has 2 or 1
Uninterruptible power supply*
@@KayvonJavid thank you for the comment MR. national electric code
hey dieselducy... i have an elevator in my house made by the waupaca elevator company and its a hydrollic elevator... i have been in the pit of mine and I also got to ride on the top while it was in service mode
If that white box was the main computer, that's an interesting choice of location. Flooding would kill that pretty quickly too. Looks like it might be more of a battery backup though. Looks very close to an old APC 1k (which were a huge pain in the butt to swap batteries out on.)
Its not the main computer
I know elevators have computers etc built into them. But how do you know exactly what to look at/ fix when it comes to one ?
are both elevators getting ripped out? you should get the parts dieselducy
I've installed many isis elevators with the Kevlar ropes, and then did a bunch of change outs, getting rid of the Kevlar ropes.
Awesome! and yes, Kevlar is not good for elevator hoisting.
sadly this video probably got demonotised cause it has Isis in the title even through there is nothing about Isis in the video just a cool elevator
Kegan Otoole in the description it says to yt moderators that it is just the name of the elevator and is not affiliated with the group
I'm surprised the ISIS elevator wasn't blowing up by now
Very interesting video. I've never seen the internals of one of these before.
The pastic pulleys are getting more and more common where I live as well.
This here might be the slowest inspection speed I've ever seen until now. Schindler in Europe uses a default of 0.3 m/s for their logics with VF drives (although some 5500s seem to be alot faster). With a simple 2-speed logic you obviously get levelling speed, although I've already seen an exception here (this lift was only moving 0.75m/s though). The fastest set inspection speed I've seen on a modern logic on a conventional traction elevator was 0.6m/s, while only going at 0.3m/s between the two bottom and the two top floors.
Regarding car top rides at full speed... I kindly point to the 1954 Otis video from December 2017. xD
I heard that you can set the inspection speed on some 5500s by pressing stop and pushing either direction button repeatedly many times, it will make it go faster. I did it before on a S5500 simulator. You should try!
@@elevator_satellite Ok that sounds interesting. Theoretically I could try it, but I don't have any use for it, since in case of a 5500 it could just be set in the CO-MX under the Speed/Accel settings. Or generally in any controller or VF drive.
@@TheLiftDragon True lol.
That is actually in The Habitat Store if you did not know that....
1:51 I’m pretty sure it was either warm or cool in the building and the elevators in the fall and winter season
Yes. This building had no climate control
@@DieselDucy I would’ve brought a plug in fan and plugged it in on top of the elevator car top
I attempted it and I survived I also have proper training
Can anyone tell me what is a final limit switch for this elevator? And what it does.
I would never enter a shaft or do try anything (Unless I became an elevator repair tech of course), in this video, but I do have a question. Is it scary riding cartop? Also, how risky is riding this way for technicians? Seeing this video had me wondering this.
Also, Is the ThyssenKrupp Isis, Traction or Hydro type elevator?
It is VERY risky if you don't know what you are doing. I did not find it scary cause I have done it several times with technicians. For technicians, in inspection service it is not risky, HOWEVER at full speed it can be VERY dangerous. Also this is TRACTION.
Traction
At this mall o go to they have a elevator shaft made of plexiglass so you can see everything!
very cool
I have a question, If someone was in a hydralic elevator and every saftey device failed, would the elevator car be crushed in to the roof?
+Harold Griswold the elevator will not travel any higher than the piston
+dieselducy does it smell in the elevator shaft
I grew up around elevators. My uncle used to be an elevator technician. He's retired now but my uncle used to work on elevators.
AWESOME!
@@DieselDucy Yep. He showed me how to operate the fire service mode and showed me the machine room, hoist way, and pit. I was just in first grade when my uncle showed me the fire service operation.
This should never ever be done without authorization or proper clearances and training.
I get to go in the machine room when the new elevator is installed at my grandparents school this Summer. Before I get started, machine rooms are very dangerous places. This should never ever be done without authorization. If you do have authorization, don't touch anything. I know what I'm doing and I have the authorization to do this. This is for your entertainment only. So without further ado, enjoy.
what is the music at the start of the video?
It just bewilders me that this was replaced by a 330A Schindler Hydraulic elevator. This one looked nice and modern enough to stay. Is there any context as to why the ThyssenKrupp ISIS was replaced with a Schindler 330A? Because it seems odd to me to replace and MRL Traction with a Hydraulic.
This elevator was sadly not reliable.
@@DieselDucy That's a shame. I would have loved to see it in person :(
14:18 That's a UPS. Not a computer
They have an Isis in the high school I go to ina. Few yesrs
i know that there are many safety precautions but i want to ask what is done if for some reason the elevator is on a higher floor and free falls? i mean is there somewhere to stand to the side or even lay down if all else fails? i'm not wishing to go attempt anything but i was watching another video and the question came to mind.
Annabelle Triabelle--Lying down flat is the best way to survive. Be toward one side in case there's a big spring at the bottom.
SFV Native Elevators DO NOT FALL. THEY FALL UPWARDS
@@SFVnative Thank You for the reply i wanted to know also about if a worker or for some reason a person were in the shaft where those giant springs are...could one lay down and survive that?
One thing I will say, since the others have answered: DO NOT JUMP! There is a myth around jumping in freefalling elevator cars. Doing so will not work.
I've done it in a canton elevator with PAC west elevator mechanics and they let me ride on top
Hi DieselDucy its me AG.
Very interesting
2:28 why the heck do they have an AC outlet on top of the elevator? Like are you going to charge your phone on top of the elevator or something?
For power tools.
I have seen a pit of a glass elevator at the Saint Louis sinsce center
You should hit inspection switch before you step on the car . Shut hall doors then hit a hall call to see if your inspection switch h works
1:23 As if none of us knew already. lol
I used to ride all the elevators in ocean City md.... Probably over 100 in a week
03:16 Hard hat yeah that's really going to help!
Yet another reason not to go up there without proper training and clearances
This was replaced with a 330a and moved. I have also been in a lift with an engineer but never attempted anything dangerous.
Yep! It has been replaced.
According to the user 22408aaron this elevator was replaced by a Schindler 330a
Yes that is correct.
What is the song Called at the end?
Andrew is not going to show us how, but then we always have Beno
I like it
Ima try this
Hey Diesel, I swear the inspection ride sounds like the ropes are playing lazy guitar. This elevator is playing music!
Did you know elevaTOURS Just did do the thyssenKrupp isis elevator
That is my channel
Woah Isis is a Bottom Drive!
This for some reason made me feel much safer about elevators even though I film them and know that they are safe.
If only you said why they replaced the ropes lol have a few good stories from back then.
You should be an elevator mechanic! Also, normally when a variation of "do not attempt" is used, I would add "unless you want to" (that is suppose to be struckthrough, but stupid CZcams doesn't use bbcode, so pretend!), but as you see in the video, I make my exception! If I wanted to do it, I would want to do it SAFELY AND LEGALLY!!! And elevator shafts are frickin' SCARY!!
Surrounding your text with hyphens will do strikethrough (this is a hyphen, in case you don't know: -).
How the heck do you do this? How do you access the top of an elevator in general?
Gerard Landry triangle key
Just stop the elevator before it reaches the floor there’s usually a key that opens the doors just hop on top
if you are the technician servicing this one, don't you find it a bit annoying that you cant control your speed on service mode if having to service that regularly..lol?
goodlooking guy
They took the elevator out!? They should have donated the cab, counterweight, and motor to the museum!
those ropes are strong. floor chime is about mid door.
I would not put the hydraulic pump in the pit. That's a very bad idea. Because do you know what happens if my grandparents school floods? The elevator is ruined.
I have a hat from the ISIS project and i get some funny looks from strangers hahaha only the other unions guys know so it’s funny.
LMAO
Would you do this on a regular basis if you had to
I am an elevator inspector, I've ridden the top of more than 2,000 elevators. Some 2 stories, some more than fifty (not many of those).
Is this at the Habitat Buiding in Roanoke?
Yes!
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RIP TK ISIS
Very good job. Sad to see this Awesome elevator go.
he is very informative.
What made this elevator last the length it did was the fact the ropes were replaced.
Yeah, there weren't any other mechanical design flaws as far as I know.
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DanielMar 1228 Thank you!
2:07 bottom drive ISIS?
what is two 1 roping..?..
Actually not true you can look at the hoistway of a lift by looking up by where the doors are and you can see the shaft like you shown in one of your Carilion Parking Garage videos.
Yeah. You can see a bit assuming they don't have barriers that block your vision. You can also see the shaft and possibly pit from outside glass lifts. But these three scenarios are the only ones where uncertified people should see it.
Hi i have a problem on parameter it dissapear kindly i need your help
What is the issue?
@@DieselDucy it display code 183
@@DieselDucy which is programming fault
At around 9:02 I see one or two orbs. I'm sure they are not part of your light. Orbs are souls without human bodies. I knew they inhabit elevator shafts.
dust particles
That computer that is in the pit is actually a battery backup device
That floor passing chime sounds like an Otis series 5
It does.
good
This fellow is not a licensed elevator contsructor. His knowledge is limited. It is amazing how cheaply made the elevator equipment is today compared to years back. I was an elevator technician, elevator contractor and licensed elevator inspector for 36 years, now retired.Then worked 10 years as a licensed elevator inspector. Otis used to sell these by the pound years ago and they lasted for ages. Not anymore!