Oh my goodness, Olga;s bar and beam performances in 1972 should have been the first perfect 10s!!! They are both awesome gymnasts, but credit where credit's due, Olga deserved it.
Yes, the skill level of Olga's routine on the uneven bars in 1072 was far more complex and skillful than Nadia's or anyone else's. Nadia's routine was really nothing special. She played it safe compared to Olga which is way she could do a "flawless" routine, as describe by the commentators. Despite the audience's reaction to Olga's 9.8 score, the judges would not change it because of their arrogance. OLGA SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN THE FIRST 10!! Compare both routines if you don't agree. And let's be honest, Nadia copied Olga's floor routine with her hand gestures. Olga was the first...and best.
@@motheroftwo5551totalmente de acuerdo con usted. Y cuando la gimnasia era artística, elegante convinando fuerza y delicadeza, así como femineidad y gracia. Hoy día evolucionô la gimnasia artística se ve burda, tosca muy agresiva, musculosa. Pareciera gimnasia extrema. Desapareció lo artístico, y la belleza. En fin es un comentario muy personal e irrelevante. P.D. Además creo que los 10's fueron cuestión política.
@@motheroftwo5551 To start in this video they put Nadia's Compulsory Exercise on bars, and they did not put the Free Exercise which has much greater difficulty that you can see in the following link if you have not seen it czcams.com/video/eBrwQ7-I6t8/video.html, there you can see that Nadia also had a much greater degree of difficulty. On the balance beam Nadia was much superior, she had elements that are currently worth more than Olga's. Nadia had links on the beam like an Aerial Cartwheel and a double twist on her dismount, which were worth more than Olga's backflip. On the bars Olga couldn't get a perfect 10 because to start with her dismount it is clear that she takes a step forward, and she didn't land with her feet firmly planted. On the floor, Nadia did not copy Olga in anything, you are wrong, in addition Nadia already did floor exercises with more difficult elements such as the double back that you can also see in the following link czcams.com/video/y87BO6tnB08/video.html
Tanto Nadia como Olga Korbug siempre hicieron de manera excelente sus rutinas, pero, en mi no experta opinión, creo que las de Olga fueron de mayor dificultad y riesgo extremo, sólo que ella las hacía parecer simples y fáciles. Agradezco a Dios por estas dos maravillosas gimnastas que llevaron esta disciplina a otro nivel. Bendiciones para ambas
Y la mayoría de las gimnastas de esa época y los 80 , pueden buscar( por ejemplo el equipo rumano de Seúl o ruso) , el estilo , creo que fue el más bello y logrado de la gimnasia.
Es que en este video pusieron el Ejercicio Obligatorio de Nadia en barras, y no pusieron el Ejercicio Libre que tiene mayor dificultad que puedes ver en el siguiente enlace czcams.com/video/eBrwQ7-I6t8/video.html , ahí se ve que Nadia también tenía mucho mayor grado de dificultad, en la viga de equilibrio era muy superior Nadia, tenía elementos que en la actualidad valen más que los de Olga.
OLGA SIEMPRE SERA LA QUE MARCO PAUTA EN TODA LA GIMNSCIA EN DIFICULTAD GRACIA Y SENCILLES EN LAS ACTUACIONES PERFECTAS FLUIDAS LLENAS DE ALEGRIA Y ENTUSIASMO ( POR ALGO SE LE LLAMO EL PAJARO QUE VUELA ) IMPUSO 8 BELLOS NUEVOS SOBRIOS MOVIMIENTOS ENRRIQUECIENDO EL DEPORTE CON UNA GRAN DESTREZA NATURALIDAD Y HUMILDAD ADMIRABLE DE UN GENIO LO DEMAS ES HISTORIA PARA ADOCTRINAdOS EN LA MENTIRA NO INSISTAN JAMAS SERAN NADA COMPARABLES RESPETEN LA IMPARCIALIDAD O JUSTICIA EN EL DEPORTE Grs.
En mi para nada experta opinion, creo que si bien las rutinas de Olga pretendían tener un mayor grado de dificultad que las de Nadia, la ejecución es la diferencia.Y es que en la ejecucion los movimientos de Nadia eran tan Suaves y fluidos que no se le mira titubear ni vacilar en ningún momento, a menos que veas muy a detalle, pareciera que bailara, como si para ella fuera lo más natural del mundo, sus gestos eran tan elegantes que aún cuando las rutinas de Olga tuvieran mayor dificultad, las de Nadia estaban perfectamente ejecutadas. Así que no necesitaba de hacer saltos de ejecución mortal para brillar.
Когда, будучи молодой, смотрела выступления этих гимнасток, была в восторге от обеих. Чистота, легкость, артистизм. Сейчас же вижу, что Оля, именно в артистизме и оригинальности, на голову выше Нади. А Надя, как стойкий оловянный солдатик, всегда была надёжна и чиста в исполнении программ.
Both are legends in gymnastics history! Personally I think Olga's rotation in uneven bar is more difficult. But for balance beam, Nadia's rotation is more difficult. I respect both!
They showed Nadia's compulsory routine, which was very simple. Her optional bar routine was difficult and more difficult than Olga's although both were very impressive for their time.
@@ElizaDolittleOlga did a move that they still do now on the beam which was rare in the 70's. Olga was more daring and exciting. Nadia stuck to the script and did it perfectly. The reason why Olga didn't get a 10 for her bar routine was because the judges didn't like the danger it had in it! That's why it's banned! I don't think Nadia has a move that is or was banned. I like Olga's routines better, but Nadia made her routines pretty and straightforward. They both are deserving of their accolades. I personally just think Olga was a little ahead of her time, but she did bring the viewership of gymnastics to another level!
@@l.c.1704 To start in this video they put Nadia's Compulsory Exercise on bars, and they did not put the Free Exercise which has much greater difficulty that you can see in the following link if you have not seen it czcams.com/video/eBrwQ7-I6t8/video.html there you can see that Nadia also had a much greater degree of difficulty. On the balance beam Nadia was much superior, she had elements that are currently worth more than Olga's. Nadia had links on the beam like an Aerial Cartwheel and a double twist on her dismount, which were worth more than Olga's backflip. In addition Nadia already did floor exercises with more difficult elements such as the double back that you can also see in the following link czcams.com/video/y87BO6tnB08/video.html
Nadia on beam definitely, floor I think its Nadia, she has grace performing it, on the uneven bars, I think they both great. Although Olga on Uneven bar is I think harder, but they said its againts the judge wants.
Ambas parcen gaviotas o cisnes, es imposible no quedar hipnotizado al contemplar tanta perfección y estética: lo hacían parecer todo tan delicado y fácil , parecia que no hacían el minimo de fuerza! ...Las dos son prodigios, pero Nadia se popularizó y la hicieron mas mediática. Es difícil decidirse entre las dos, pero pero sí remotamente me presionaran para hacerlo, elegiría a Olga.
Sorry to all those Nadia fans in this comment section. But if we compare this routine in this video, Olga left Nadia on the dust. Olga's routine was a lot more challenging and complicated than that of Nadia. I think Olga should deserve a 10, with that performance. That was flawless and intense. 👏
Exacto...Las 2 son buenas pero Olga k así como vera c ... Tenian rutinas bellas , sutiles y elgantes con su grado de dificultad porsupuesto....Nadia con rutinas más desafiantes y después de ella sin menoscabar a las siguientes generaciones la han ido imitando y dejando solo en acrobacias dejando de lado la sutileza y elegancia de tan bella disciplina
To start in this video they put Nadia's Compulsory Exercise on bars, and they did not put the Optional Exercise which has much greater difficulty that you can see in the following link if you have not seen it czcams.com/video/eBrwQ7-I6t8/video.html, there you can see that Nadia also had a much greater degree of difficulty. On the balance beam Nadia was much superior, she had elements that are currently worth more than Olga's. Nadia had links on the beam like an Aerial Cartwheel and a double twist on her dismount, which were worth more than Olga's backflip. On the bars Olga couldn't get a perfect 10 because to start with her dismount it is clear that she takes a step forward, and she didn't land with her feet firmly planted. In addition Nadia already did floor exercises with more difficult elements such as the double back that you can also see in the following link czcams.com/video/y87BO6tnB08/video.html
No lo creo Nadia realiza sus ejercicios con mucha cadencia y elegancia hace parecer que los ejercicios son fáciles y podemos compararlo con Olga que hace casi los mismos ejercicios es más lento y pausado
Recordemos que eran otros tiempos y las rutinas no eran tan temerarias ,para mí Nadia será siempre exelente mi medalla de oro pero entendamos que cada una en su tiempo.Es como creer que la juventud de mi mamá de 84 fue como la mía que tengo 50 jamás .
La verdad es que cuanto vi a Nadia me pareció bonito en su momento, pero como nadie obtenía 10 pensé que seria una actuación sumamente impresionante pero no fue tan así comparando a todas las demás gimnastas posteriores. Pero cuanto vi a Olga me quede con la boca abierta y sumamente impresionado. Es opinión personal.
Para empezar en este video pusieron el Ejercicio Obligatorio de Nadia en barras, y no pusieron el Ejercicio Libre que tiene mucho mayor dificultad que puedes ver en el siguiente enlace por sino lo has visto czcams.com/video/eBrwQ7-I6t8/video.html , ahí se ve que Nadia también tenía mucho mayor grado de dificultad. En la viga de equilibrio era muy superior Nadia, tenía elementos que en la actualidad valen más que los de Olga. Nadia tenía en la viga enlaces como un Aerial Cartwheel y un doble twist en su desmonte, que valen más que un mortal hacia atrás de Olga. En las barras Olga no pudo obtener un 10 perfecto por que para empezar en su desmonte se ve claro que da un paso hacia al frente, y no cayó con los pies bien plantados. además Nadia ya hacía ejercicios de suelo con elementos más difíciles como el doble back que tambíen puedes ver en el siguiente enlace czcams.com/video/y87BO6tnB08/video.html
And let's not forget, Olga's extraordinary performances were 4 years earlier than Nadia's, and that is a very long time in gymnastics. It's Olga each and every time for me.
Не забываем, что звезда Ольги зажглась на 4 года раньше. В те времена это было гигантским отрезком времени в плане развития гимнастики. О многих элементах ещё тогда даже и не помышляли, а только делали первые шаги в сальто на том же бревне. Мухину надо было сравнивать с Надей, они выступали в одно время соревновались. А Надя и Ольга разные планеты. Да, они соревновались на ОИ 76, но там Ольга была уже взрослой девушкой, 21 год, а Надя девочка. Считаю сравнение неуместным
Olga every time for me she deserved perfect 10, for her asymmetric bar work , she was and will always be remembered as the darling of gymnastics 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
I'd never heard of Olga Korbut, but holy moly, i was speechless from the first jump, first programme in this video. What a beautoful interpretation, creativity and control
Olga was realty better flawless and had more difficult routine than Nadia, she deserved 10 but as we know judges played favoritism that year we do not know the reason behind it but I go for Olga anyway.
Para los que dicen que Nadia no tenía dificultad en las barras asimétricas, les recuerdo que en este video solo está su ejercicio obligatorio y no el opcional que está en el siguiente video: czcams.com/users/shorts6M2q44vYlYQ . Además Nadia en suelo tenía elementos de mayor dificultad como el doble back que también está en el siguiente enlace: czcams.com/video/y87BO6tnB08/video.html. Es cierto que Olga tenía un alto grado de dificultad en las asimétricas, pero en su ejercicio final por equipos cometió muchos errores en su rutina, solamente en su ejercicio libre opcional individual pudo hacer muy bien su rutina, Nadia fue más consistente, y para mi, en sus ejercicios se veía más ágil, rápida y fluida, y tenía más carisma y gracia en suelo que Olga. Además en la viga Nadia era muchísimo mejor porque enlazaba, no titubeaba y sus elementos eran de mayor dificultad.
Lo que pasa es: que presentan la rutina de barras asimétricas de Olga Korbut de las olimpiadas de 1972 que los ejercicios que hizo quedaron prohibidos por el riesgo de perder la vida o quedar cuadraplejicos, y en 1976 cuándo compitió con Nadia, Olga cometió varios errores en los diferentes aparatos y Nadia tuvo excelentes rutinas.
Нет, не только. "Петлю Корбут" повторяли многие гимнастки и даже усложняли. Другая советская гимнастка Елена Мухина без проблем выполняла "петлю Корбут". Она внесла в спортивную гимнастику элемент, который стал называться в ее честь, - "петля Мухиной". Лена усложнила "петлю Корбут", добавив в сальто "винт" и делала его НЕ с согнутыми ногами, а с прямыми. Вот этого действительно до сих пор никто не смог повторить.
Floor routine wow I cannot pick I enjoyed both. Nadia has more speed and better twists and flips haha can you tell I have no idea what they are called, but Olga is so precise, fluid and daring
Hands down these are the 2 best gymnasts the sport produced during the 70s- early 90s. Back when gymnastics was more about beauty, flexibility and fluidity as opposed to now where it's all about strength and height and difficulty of skills. I also think this is exactly how the uneven bars are meant to done. Now a days there's not a lot of transitioning between the high and low bars and it has become more reminiscent of the men's high bar. Same goes with floor exercises, there's very few dance elements and really not sure why they even still use music to women's floor routines. I will always love gymnastics and miss doing it but today it all looks the same. Not that it isn't impressive, it's just that every gymnast performs the same handful of skills. There has been so many awesome skills either banned or scored so low now that nobody does them. For example you don't see any dive front rolls or any rollouts anymore.
Me quedo con Olga ella tomaba riesgos se jugaba en su presentación. Lo mismo que Elena mukhina y que injustamente nunca les pusieron 10 cuando en realidad ellas también lo merecieron
Yo resumiría así la diferencia entre estás 2 grandes gimnastas; Nadia Comaneci elegancia, gran extensión y carisma y Olga Korbut alto grado de dificultad y candidez.
Como Nadia... Nadie.. Porte, elegancia, clase, distinción, arrojo, carisma, determinación. TAN NATURAL... SIMPLEMENTE ESQUICITA Y MOVIMIENTOS AMPLIOS Y PERFECTOS!!! ÚNICA EN SU MOMENTO!!
Olga doing a layout backdive onto the floor behind her and popping up like it was something we all did every day was the moment that really got me! She was an amazing gymnast and i was in awe of her the moment she stepped out on the mat all those years ago. Nadia was also memorable, and everything she did was perfect, but i think Olga innovated and took more chances back then. That is not to say Nadia didn't have her ow "wow" moment - she did when she came out in her uneven bar routine by vaulting over the lower bar in a complete split and then grabbing the high bar for a another foray into perfection! If you could pit them against today's gymnasts, they would have a lot of learning and practicing to do because Simone Biles and the like have raised the ceiling so high with completely NEW moves and the degree of difficulty they bring that it almost makes our heros seem like they are playing it extremely safe. That amazes me in itself! But if you were to set them all in competion with a 1974 routine, Olga and Nadia both would not faulter one iota. It was like they were magnetized to the balance beam, like they were attached to the bars as if they were a wind-up toy and lastly, like they 😮were cgi/AI perfect on the floor routines with no tiny balance baubles or anything! Dont get me wrong, Biles is the Queen supreme today with every modern thing she does! But, Olga and Nadia just seem to have perfected "perfection" in the world of gymnastics!
czcams.com/video/-mDWF8Zl7FI/video.htmlsi=7rz5C6jtAn_N3xud You know I’m not really impressed with this. It’s boring, it’s the same old look where it’s not even interesting to watch. And I’m also not impressed because the floors have springs now. Nadia and Olga’s landings are perfection. Simone bounces off which people seem to ignore. Not a pretty landing.
if you put simone to the conditions back in the 70s she wouldn't make it in top 3. those girls had it rough back then, wooden beam, tough floor, not so special diets like these days, they can't be compared.
@@amywaves80s hasta las Olimpiadas de 1996, las gimnastas debían hacer una rutina obligatoria en cada aparato llamada "compulsory". Era la misma rutina para todas. Luego, tenían su rutina personal. La rutina obligatoria no tenía tantos elementos de alta dificultad. En el video, sale la rutina "compulsory" de Nadia, no su rutina personal, por llamarla de una forma. En cambio, sale la rutina personal de Olga en barras, que obviamente va a tener más dificultad. Entonces, es fácil confundirse y pensar que Olga tenía más dificultad.
And US people want to try to put Simone Biles as the best of all times. Yes she is amazing but no chance she is better than Nadia Comaneci, Olga Korbut or Elena Mukhina.
Nadia was a great gymnast, but Olga was a legend. Still is. The reason she didn't get the perfect 10 in Munich was most likely politics. But, it's like you can trick the system, but you can't trick people. Olga Forever!
Both are awesome I remember watching them both. It's amazing how far the sport has come with so many fantastic athletes 👏 I have to say I don't think anyone will ever be more impressive than Simone that girl flies!!! ❤
Perfeitas!! A parte artística deixava a ginástica mais bela. Hoje as ginastas são incríveis, mas a maioria deixa a desejar na leveza elegância, dando prioridade às acrobacias.👏👏👏
A 14 year old girl from an "obscure poor country" runs away with tens all over the place. Just beautiful. Olga same beauty. Two icons in gymnastic history.
I prefer Olga Korbut. I believe she should have received more recognition just like Nadia had. We all know that Nadia was the first gymnast to achieve a perfect 10 in gymnastics, that’s why she got more recognition. Olga didn’t get as many perfect 10’s as Nadia because Nadia really focused on perfection and was very consistent. But if we watch Olga’s and Nadia’s styles on floor, beam and bars, they had completely different styles. Olga focused more on creative tumbles with a lot of flexibility. I love her floor routine and her performance at 1976 beam finals (where she does a move that requires A LOT of flexibility). And I don’t even have to mention the KORBUT FLIP on UNEVEN BARS!!! Until today, everyone gets impressed when they see replays of that move. I know that most people still prefer Nadia because of her influence in modern gymnastics, but I prefer Olga Korbut gymnastics style. Nevertheless, they both are legends of artistic gymnastics. And just a quick reminder, Olga’s first Olympics was in 1972, while Nadia’s was in 1976. So, before Nadia Comaneci, there was Olga Korbut.
Cada una en su momento fué espectacular Olga en el 72 y Nadia en el 76, si se hubieran enfrentado las 2 en su momento de gloria hubiera sido muy difícil saber quién ganaría. Recuerdo a Nadia en el 76 tan ágil y espectacular, tal cómo se ve en el vídeo, Olga ya un poco apagada y triste al verse desplazada por Nadia, claro tenía más edad Olga y en ése entonces Nadia con su 10 perfecto nunca antes ganado fué la sensación. ❤
I agree how graceful Korbut was. It was not just her beautiful manner alone also but also a result of her environment -the arts (composition, ballet etc) were truly vibrant and highly developed in USSR but this grace was part of the training specifically to USSR gymnastics also! See her preparations on film. I like Korbut’s words at 28 minutes “what a beautiful gymnast you suddenly are!... you must do it beautifully.. you need to feel love and then your performance will be better” - in our times the emphasis on grace and beauty is lost in gymnastics. czcams.com/video/ovN5i0sHMq4/video.html
Eu tinha apenas 10 anos de idade quando Olga Korbut foi o xodó da ginástica nos Jogos Olímpicos de Munique-1972. Quatro anos depois, Nadia Comaneci levou o esporte à perfeição em Montreal-1976, enquanto a ginasta soviética popularizou a modalidade, hoje tenho 62, mas, juro que nunca mais vi sequências de apresentações tão perfeitas assim.
comparing these two immense talents is like comparing apples to oranges. comaneci was famous for her calm demeanor and accurate uncompromising technical skills. however, i have always had a soft spot for olga. there’s something. childlike, impish, and bubbly about her. the way she flips her head from side to side in her characteristic cute way made her fans adore her.
Queda clara la superioridad de Olga: plasticidad, atrevimiento, tecnica, vuelo en camara lenta perfeccion e imperfección que la catapulta hacia los dioses..
Nadia era muy superior a Olga en la viga, tenía elementos y enlaces de mayor dificultad, tenía Aerial frontal, y un Aerial Cartwheel más un enlace y en su desmonte un doble twist, todos esos elementos valen más ahora que el mortal hacia atrás de Olga, ademas en este video pusieron el ejercicio obligatorio de Nadia, y no pusieron su ejercicio Libre Opcional que tiene mucho más grado de dificultad que el que presentan en este video. Por si no lo has visto te dejo el enlace: czcams.com/users/shorts6M2q44vYlYQ
![Olga Korbut Reflects On Munich 1972 Olympic Games [ 2022 ]🥇](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/onOgakokQB8/mqdefault.jpg)
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Oh my goodness, Olga;s bar and beam performances in 1972 should have been the first perfect 10s!!! They are both awesome gymnasts, but credit where credit's due, Olga deserved it.
Yes, the skill level of Olga's routine on the uneven bars in 1072 was far more complex and skillful than Nadia's or anyone else's. Nadia's routine was really nothing special. She played it safe compared to Olga which is way she could do a "flawless" routine, as describe by the commentators. Despite the audience's reaction to Olga's 9.8 score, the judges would not change it because of their arrogance. OLGA SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN THE FIRST 10!! Compare both routines if you don't agree. And let's be honest, Nadia copied Olga's floor routine with her hand gestures. Olga was the first...and best.
@@motheroftwo5551totalmente de acuerdo con usted. Y cuando la gimnasia era artística, elegante convinando fuerza y delicadeza, así como femineidad y gracia. Hoy día evolucionô la gimnasia artística se ve burda, tosca muy agresiva, musculosa. Pareciera gimnasia extrema. Desapareció lo artístico, y la belleza. En fin es un comentario muy personal e irrelevante.
P.D. Además creo que los 10's fueron cuestión política.
O carisma e a graça de Nadja faziam a diferença.
@@motheroftwo5551 To start in this video they put Nadia's Compulsory Exercise on bars, and they did not put the Free Exercise which has much greater difficulty that you can see in the following link if you have not seen it czcams.com/video/eBrwQ7-I6t8/video.html, there you can see that Nadia also had a much greater degree of difficulty. On the balance beam Nadia was much superior, she had elements that are currently worth more than Olga's. Nadia had links on the beam like an Aerial Cartwheel and a double twist on her dismount, which were worth more than Olga's backflip. On the bars Olga couldn't get a perfect 10 because to start with her dismount it is clear that she takes a step forward, and she didn't land with her feet firmly planted. On the floor, Nadia did not copy Olga in anything, you are wrong, in addition Nadia already did floor exercises with more difficult elements such as the double back that you can also see in the following link czcams.com/video/y87BO6tnB08/video.html
@@corinacamachozuazua1650 Los 10´s de Nadia fueron cuestión política?
Olga Korbut en barras asimétricas insuperable perfección, Nadia Comanecci en la barra de equilibrio perfecta ejecución.
Siento que las rutinas de Olga tienen un mayor nível de dificultad.
They are both great gymnasts but I think Olga Korbut’s star, shined brighter. She really did deserve 10’s too.
Was lucky to see them both in the Olympics. Both great but Olga did things never seen before.
Tanto Nadia como Olga Korbug siempre hicieron de manera excelente sus rutinas, pero, en mi no experta opinión, creo que las de Olga fueron de mayor dificultad y riesgo extremo, sólo que ella las hacía parecer simples y fáciles. Agradezco a Dios por estas dos maravillosas gimnastas que llevaron esta disciplina a otro nivel. Bendiciones para ambas
Y la mayoría de las gimnastas de esa época y los 80 , pueden buscar( por ejemplo el equipo rumano de Seúl o ruso) , el estilo , creo que fue el más bello y logrado de la gimnasia.
Es que en este video pusieron el Ejercicio Obligatorio de Nadia en barras, y no pusieron el Ejercicio Libre que tiene mayor dificultad que puedes ver en el siguiente enlace czcams.com/video/eBrwQ7-I6t8/video.html , ahí se ve que Nadia también tenía mucho mayor grado de dificultad, en la viga de equilibrio era muy superior Nadia, tenía elementos que en la actualidad valen más que los de Olga.
OLGA SIEMPRE SERA LA QUE MARCO PAUTA EN TODA LA GIMNSCIA EN DIFICULTAD GRACIA Y SENCILLES EN LAS ACTUACIONES PERFECTAS FLUIDAS LLENAS DE ALEGRIA Y ENTUSIASMO ( POR ALGO SE LE LLAMO EL PAJARO QUE VUELA ) IMPUSO 8 BELLOS NUEVOS SOBRIOS MOVIMIENTOS ENRRIQUECIENDO EL DEPORTE CON UNA GRAN DESTREZA NATURALIDAD Y HUMILDAD ADMIRABLE DE UN GENIO LO DEMAS ES HISTORIA PARA ADOCTRINAdOS EN LA MENTIRA NO INSISTAN JAMAS SERAN NADA COMPARABLES RESPETEN LA IMPARCIALIDAD O JUSTICIA EN EL DEPORTE Grs.
En mi para nada experta opinion, creo que si bien las rutinas de Olga pretendían tener un mayor grado de dificultad que las de Nadia, la ejecución es la diferencia.Y es que en la ejecucion los movimientos de Nadia eran tan Suaves y fluidos que no se le mira titubear ni vacilar en ningún momento, a menos que veas muy a detalle, pareciera que bailara, como si para ella fuera lo más natural del mundo, sus gestos eran tan elegantes que aún cuando las rutinas de Olga tuvieran mayor dificultad, las de Nadia estaban perfectamente ejecutadas. Así que no necesitaba de hacer saltos de ejecución mortal para brillar.
@@artqhrisright!
Когда, будучи молодой, смотрела выступления этих гимнасток, была в восторге от обеих. Чистота, легкость, артистизм. Сейчас же вижу, что Оля, именно в артистизме и оригинальности, на голову выше Нади. А Надя, как стойкий оловянный солдатик, всегда была надёжна и чиста в исполнении программ.
Nadia is Nadia. 10+ 👏👏👏❤️
What is gained by comparing Two Greats? They both have their own thing. But remember that there is no one like Nadia.
Both are legends in gymnastics history! Personally I think Olga's rotation in uneven bar is more difficult. But for balance beam, Nadia's rotation is more difficult. I respect both!
They showed Nadia's compulsory routine, which was very simple. Her optional bar routine was difficult and more difficult than Olga's although both were very impressive for their time.
There are no Simone!
@@ElizaDolittleOlga did a move that they still do now on the beam which was rare in the 70's. Olga was more daring and exciting. Nadia stuck to the script and did it perfectly. The reason why Olga didn't get a 10 for her bar routine was because the judges didn't like the danger it had in it! That's why it's banned! I don't think Nadia has a move that is or was banned. I like Olga's routines better, but Nadia made her routines pretty and straightforward. They both are deserving of their accolades.
I personally just think Olga was a little ahead of her time, but she did bring the viewership of gymnastics to another level!
@@l.c.1704 To start in this video they put Nadia's Compulsory Exercise on bars, and they did not put the Free Exercise which has much greater difficulty that you can see in the following link if you have not seen it czcams.com/video/eBrwQ7-I6t8/video.html there you can see that Nadia also had a much greater degree of difficulty. On the balance beam Nadia was much superior, she had elements that are currently worth more than Olga's. Nadia had links on the beam like an Aerial Cartwheel and a double twist on her dismount, which were worth more than Olga's backflip. In addition Nadia already did floor exercises with more difficult elements such as the double back that you can also see in the following link czcams.com/video/y87BO6tnB08/video.html
They did not show the bars optional wtf
Для меня Ольга Корбут -это отдельная планета в мире гимнастики, я же обычная болельщица, мне под 80 годков, но выступления Корбут незабываемы!
Olga is my favorite. Difficult moves, flexibility and such elegance, poise and beauty.
Olga deserved a perfect 10 in asimetric bars, she was perfect, very hard movements!
I agree Olga is better than Nadia
Hard ≠ perfect
Both had slight hops on their landings but Nadia’s was not as noticeable, hence the perfect 10. I would’ve given her routine a 9.95 and Olga’s 9.
Olga Korbut, brutalmente perfecta en barras, Nadia Comaneci mucho más femenina, delicada y también perfecta. Ambas, excelentes.
@@faridejaruferocha7546WTF does "more feminine" mean?You people just write nonesense.
Olga insuperable
OLGA in all disciplines.
Definitely Olga on floor, Nadia on the beam. But I think both of them deserved 10s on the uneven bars. Beautiful.
Nadia on beam definitely, floor I think its Nadia, she has grace performing it, on the uneven bars, I think they both great. Although Olga on Uneven bar is I think harder, but they said its againts the judge wants.
Sin duda alguna Olga korbut más grado de dificultad más carisma más tecnica
Ambas parcen gaviotas o cisnes, es imposible no quedar hipnotizado al contemplar tanta perfección y estética: lo hacían parecer todo tan delicado y fácil , parecia que no hacían el minimo de fuerza! ...Las dos son prodigios, pero Nadia se popularizó y la hicieron mas mediática. Es difícil decidirse entre las dos, pero pero sí remotamente me presionaran para hacerlo, elegiría a Olga.
For me, Olga´s performances are amazing, but Nadia´s body elegance so rellay amazaing in her jumps
Coincido contigo , ambas son bárbaras y marcaron historia en el deporte pero si tuviese que elegir una escogería a Olga.
El estilo de Olga es mi preferido 👏👏👏👏
Sorry to all those Nadia fans in this comment section. But if we compare this routine in this video, Olga left Nadia on the dust. Olga's routine was a lot more challenging and complicated than that of Nadia. I think Olga should deserve a 10, with that performance. That was flawless and intense. 👏
Nadia's routine wasn't easy she just made it look that way.
Exacto...Las 2 son buenas pero Olga k así como vera c ... Tenian rutinas bellas , sutiles y elgantes con su grado de dificultad porsupuesto....Nadia con rutinas más desafiantes y después de ella sin menoscabar a las siguientes generaciones la han ido imitando y dejando solo en acrobacias dejando de lado la sutileza y elegancia de tan bella disciplina
To start in this video they put Nadia's Compulsory Exercise on bars, and they did not put the Optional Exercise which has much greater difficulty that you can see in the following link if you have not seen it czcams.com/video/eBrwQ7-I6t8/video.html, there you can see that Nadia also had a much greater degree of difficulty. On the balance beam Nadia was much superior, she had elements that are currently worth more than Olga's. Nadia had links on the beam like an Aerial Cartwheel and a double twist on her dismount, which were worth more than Olga's backflip. On the bars Olga couldn't get a perfect 10 because to start with her dismount it is clear that she takes a step forward, and she didn't land with her feet firmly planted. In addition Nadia already did floor exercises with more difficult elements such as the double back that you can also see in the following link czcams.com/video/y87BO6tnB08/video.html
No lo creo Nadia realiza sus ejercicios con mucha cadencia y elegancia hace parecer que los ejercicios son fáciles y podemos compararlo con Olga que hace casi los mismos ejercicios es más lento y pausado
Recordemos que eran otros tiempos y las rutinas no eran tan temerarias ,para mí Nadia será siempre exelente mi medalla de oro pero entendamos que cada una en su tiempo.Es como creer que la juventud de mi mamá de 84 fue como la mía que tengo 50 jamás .
La verdad es que cuanto vi a Nadia me pareció bonito en su momento, pero como nadie obtenía 10 pensé que seria una actuación sumamente impresionante pero no fue tan así comparando a todas las demás gimnastas posteriores.
Pero cuanto vi a Olga me quede con la boca abierta y sumamente impresionado.
Es opinión personal.
Pero su caída no es limpia como la de Nadia Comaneci.
Las dos excelentes gimnastas
Otra época no?
Cada una en su epoca
Para empezar en este video pusieron el Ejercicio Obligatorio de Nadia en barras, y no pusieron el Ejercicio Libre que tiene mucho mayor dificultad que puedes ver en el siguiente enlace por sino lo has visto czcams.com/video/eBrwQ7-I6t8/video.html , ahí se ve que Nadia también tenía mucho mayor grado de dificultad. En la viga de equilibrio era muy superior Nadia, tenía elementos que en la actualidad valen más que los de Olga. Nadia tenía en la viga enlaces como un Aerial Cartwheel y un doble twist en su desmonte, que valen más que un mortal hacia atrás de Olga. En las barras Olga no pudo obtener un 10 perfecto por que para empezar en su desmonte se ve claro que da un paso hacia al frente, y no cayó con los pies bien plantados. además Nadia ya hacía ejercicios de suelo con elementos más difíciles como el doble back que tambíen puedes ver en el siguiente enlace czcams.com/video/y87BO6tnB08/video.html
Какими же они были изящными , лёгкими , невесомыми. Статуэточки точёные! Не то что сейчас терминаторы типа Байлз или О' Хаши.
And let's not forget, Olga's extraordinary performances were 4 years earlier than Nadia's, and that is a very long time in gymnastics. It's Olga each and every time for me.
Olga, the best always
And still couldn’t get a 10 🤣🤣
The Nadia history ♥ never can't be compared with the Olga life....Nadia stolen my heart ♥ and returned when she was married.
Не забываем, что звезда Ольги зажглась на 4 года раньше. В те времена это было гигантским отрезком времени в плане развития гимнастики. О многих элементах ещё тогда даже и не помышляли, а только делали первые шаги в сальто на том же бревне. Мухину надо было сравнивать с Надей, они выступали в одно время соревновались. А Надя и Ольга разные планеты. Да, они соревновались на ОИ 76, но там Ольга была уже взрослой девушкой, 21 год, а Надя девочка. Считаю сравнение неуместным
Olga realmente maravillosa la reyna de los juegoa olimpicos de Munich
Olga every time for me she deserved perfect 10, for her asymmetric bar work , she was and will always be remembered as the darling of gymnastics 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
I'd never heard of Olga Korbut, but holy moly, i was speechless from the first jump, first programme in this video. What a beautoful interpretation, creativity and control
She was one of the best...if not the best.....and I m romanian as Nadia.
Same. I’m Romanian and think Olga got robbed. Nadia played safe and doesn’t even come close to Olga.
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Olga is just so fluid and flexible.
Эти гимнастки и сегодня были бы лучшими в мире! Ольге я отдала бы первое место, Наде второе. Лучшие, уникальные, непревзойденные!
Olga consegue ir muito além daquilo que achamos que é possível.
Las dos excelentes !!
Estaba pequeña, pero recuerdo cómo me encantó Nadia en su momento!!
No conocía el trabajo de Olga ! Las dls brillantes 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
TE CREO QUE NO LA CONOCIAS.....CLARO QUE NO TE LO HIBAN A CONTAR EN HESE TIEMPO???
Olga korbut is the best!!!!!!
OLGA ALL THE WAY!
Olga was realty better flawless and had more difficult routine than Nadia, she deserved 10 but as we know judges played favoritism that year we do not know the reason behind it but I go for Olga anyway.
Para los que dicen que Nadia no tenía dificultad en las barras asimétricas, les recuerdo que en este video solo está su ejercicio obligatorio y no el opcional que está en el siguiente video: czcams.com/users/shorts6M2q44vYlYQ . Además Nadia en suelo tenía elementos de mayor dificultad como el doble back que también está en el siguiente enlace: czcams.com/video/y87BO6tnB08/video.html. Es cierto que Olga tenía un alto grado de dificultad en las asimétricas, pero en su ejercicio final por equipos cometió muchos errores en su rutina, solamente en su ejercicio libre opcional individual pudo hacer muy bien su rutina, Nadia fue más consistente, y para mi, en sus ejercicios se veía más ágil, rápida y fluida, y tenía más carisma y gracia en suelo que Olga. Además en la viga Nadia era muchísimo mejor porque enlazaba, no titubeaba y sus elementos eran de mayor dificultad.
O que a Nadia tem de perfeição, a Olga tem de genialidade. As duas são incríveis, mas a minha fav é a Olga Korbut.
UD.SI SABE DE GIMNACIA¡!
Mi Favorita Olga ❤
Lo que pasa es: que presentan la rutina de barras asimétricas de Olga Korbut de las olimpiadas de 1972 que los ejercicios que hizo quedaron prohibidos por el riesgo de perder la vida o quedar cuadraplejicos, y en 1976 cuándo compitió con Nadia, Olga cometió varios errores en los diferentes aparatos y Nadia tuvo excelentes rutinas.
Para mi Nadia sin ningún género de dudas. Nadia forever !!!
Конечно Корбут ))) гений абсолютный и выразительная ) много сложнейших элементов , которые только она делала - она лучшая всегда
Нет, не только. "Петлю Корбут" повторяли многие гимнастки и даже усложняли. Другая советская гимнастка Елена Мухина без проблем выполняла "петлю Корбут". Она внесла в спортивную гимнастику элемент, который стал называться в ее честь, - "петля Мухиной". Лена усложнила "петлю Корбут", добавив в сальто "винт" и делала его НЕ с согнутыми ногами, а с прямыми. Вот этого действительно до сих пор никто не смог повторить.
Floor routine wow I cannot pick I enjoyed both. Nadia has more speed and better twists and flips haha can you tell I have no idea what they are called, but Olga is so precise, fluid and daring
Надя - это техника. Ольга - это "мурашки по коже")
Nadine too. I Admiral both. Both Arena amazing with so much grace
Hands down these are the 2 best gymnasts the sport produced during the 70s- early 90s.
Back when gymnastics was more about beauty, flexibility and fluidity as opposed to now where it's all about strength and height and difficulty of skills.
I also think this is exactly how the uneven bars are meant to done. Now a days there's not a lot of transitioning between the high and low bars and it has become more reminiscent of the men's high bar.
Same goes with floor exercises, there's very few dance elements and really not sure why they even still use music to women's floor routines.
I will always love gymnastics and miss doing it but today it all looks the same. Not that it isn't impressive, it's just that every gymnast performs the same handful of skills. There has been so many awesome skills either banned or scored so low now that nobody does them.
For example you don't see any dive front rolls or any rollouts anymore.
Agree except for the banning... Moves beautiful to see mustn't be above performers' health.
Sin palabras lo dice todo . Olga korbut diosa en la gimnasia
As duas são maravilhosas, mas prefiro os estilo da Olga.
Olga
Olga is the best!
Olga always. Forever and ever
Dos grandes ginastas🥇🥇💯💯Olga 10, Nadia 9.5
Nadia 10
Olga 9.5
olga korbut, la chica 10!!! la mejor!!! todos sus movimientos son muy jugados, todos los oros para ella, se los merecía y se los merece 🥇🏆👏🏻
Me quedo con Olga ella tomaba riesgos se jugaba en su presentación. Lo mismo que Elena mukhina y que injustamente nunca les pusieron 10 cuando en realidad ellas también lo merecieron
NO PUES COMO LES HIBAN A PONER 10 SI ESTABA METIENDO MANO PRIETA EL VIEJO SAM?????
Mother Russia wanted them victorious even with supreme sacrifice.
🌹Sou mais a Olga Korbut 🥰
As duas estavam ótimas, mas Olga, foi melhor 🇧🇷🇧🇷
Yo resumiría así la diferencia entre estás 2 grandes gimnastas; Nadia Comaneci elegancia, gran extensión y carisma y Olga Korbut alto grado de dificultad y candidez.
Bravo Olga!!!
Sin duda olga es la ganadora
Son comparaciones sin sentido , ambas son buenas , y Nadia logró algo que nadie pudo en su momento
Como Nadia... Nadie.. Porte, elegancia, clase, distinción, arrojo, carisma, determinación. TAN NATURAL... SIMPLEMENTE ESQUICITA Y MOVIMIENTOS AMPLIOS Y PERFECTOS!!! ÚNICA EN SU MOMENTO!!
Tu has visto a la Korbut?
Las 2 eran impresionantes, pero para mí es olga 🎉
Olga’s uneven bar was the free program but Nadia’s was the routin so that it looks much easier. But nobody could play the routin beautiful as Nadia🥇
I always preferred olga she had more personalty.olga invebted many moves .its my opinion
Olga doing a layout backdive onto the floor behind her and popping up like it was something we all did every day was the moment that really got me! She was an amazing gymnast and i was in awe of her the moment she stepped out on the mat all those years ago. Nadia was also memorable, and everything she did was perfect, but i think Olga innovated and took more chances back then. That is not to say Nadia didn't have her ow "wow" moment - she did when she came out in her uneven bar routine by vaulting over the lower bar in a complete split and then grabbing the high bar for a another foray into perfection! If you could pit them against today's gymnasts, they would have a lot of learning and practicing to do because Simone Biles and the like have raised the ceiling so high with completely NEW moves and the degree of difficulty they bring that it almost makes our heros seem like they are playing it extremely safe. That amazes me in itself! But if you were to set them all in competion with a 1974 routine, Olga and Nadia both would not faulter one iota. It was like they were magnetized to the balance beam, like they were attached to the bars as if they were a wind-up toy and lastly, like they 😮were cgi/AI perfect on the floor routines with no tiny balance baubles or anything! Dont get me wrong, Biles is the Queen supreme today with every modern thing she does! But, Olga and Nadia just seem to have perfected "perfection" in the world of gymnastics!
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You know I’m not really impressed with this. It’s boring, it’s the same old look where it’s not even interesting to watch. And I’m also not impressed because the floors have springs now. Nadia and Olga’s landings are perfection. Simone bounces off which people seem to ignore. Not a pretty landing.
if you put simone to the conditions back in the 70s she wouldn't make it in top 3. those girls had it rough back then, wooden beam, tough floor, not so special diets like these days, they can't be compared.
Nadie como Nadia !!! 🎉🎉🎉 😊
Nadia ist sehr elegant und präzise, Olga Abenteuerlustig. Beide sehr gut, mein Herz ist bei Nadia.
У Корбут программы сложнее на порядок и исполнение просто огонь!
needless to compare. but i think olga.
Suelo Olga. Barra Nadia. Paralelas las dos
Las dos son fantásticas !!!
Olga foi melhor!!
El tema es que están comparando la rutina obligatoria de Nadia en barras con la rutina opcional de Olga...
en que sentido??
@@amywaves80s hasta las Olimpiadas de 1996, las gimnastas debían hacer una rutina obligatoria en cada aparato llamada "compulsory". Era la misma rutina para todas. Luego, tenían su rutina personal. La rutina obligatoria no tenía tantos elementos de alta dificultad. En el video, sale la rutina "compulsory" de Nadia, no su rutina personal, por llamarla de una forma. En cambio, sale la rutina personal de Olga en barras, que obviamente va a tener más dificultad. Entonces, es fácil confundirse y pensar que Olga tenía más dificultad.
Exacto , yo he pensado lo mismo. Han puesto el ejercicio “fácil “ de asimétricas de Nadia. La opcional es muchísimo mejor
Las mejores gimnastas de toda las epocas indudable las" RUSAS "
Correcto. Latinina, VORONINA, Kushinskaya, Petrik, TURISHCHEVA, Korbut y Kim. Sólo la Rumana Comaneci resultó ser la Mujer Perfecta de 10.
Korbut most amazing 👌👌
Admiro a Nadia, pero Olga es digna de admiración que fuerza merece lo mejor
OLGA THE BEST 😊
Felicitaciones. Lo mejor que he visto en años !!!
Both are beautiful candy for an eye, unlike current gymnast women, knots and balls of muscles.
Olga Korbut was innovator ... and this make the difference ❤
Olga executou mais movimentos, todos foram perfeitos e com graça e leveza, principalmente nas assimétricas, onde deveria receber 10.
Virei fã dela.
Olga la mejor. Toda una revolucionaria de la gimnasia.
And US people want to try to put Simone Biles as the best of all times. Yes she is amazing but no chance she is better than Nadia Comaneci, Olga Korbut or Elena Mukhina.
Yeah i dont know anything about gymnastics. But i think olga and nadia is more artistic and beautiful in their execution
@@amanda-qx6nh absolutely, they were perfect. Nadia made 10 at the Olympics, she didn't make a single mistake
Nadia sumamente brillantes 🌞
Su genialidad A+
Nadia by far the best.
Nadia was a great gymnast, but Olga was a legend. Still is. The reason she didn't get the perfect 10 in Munich was most likely politics. But, it's like you can trick the system, but you can't trick people. Olga Forever!
La verdad las dos lo hacen increíble no puedo decir
Both are greatly 🎉🎉🎉
Ольга Корбут, несомненно, лучше. Соперничество, хитрость, умение владеть залом.
Both are awesome I remember watching them both. It's amazing how far the sport has come with so many fantastic athletes 👏 I have to say I don't think anyone will ever be more impressive than Simone that girl flies!!! ❤
Nadia-the winner
Perfeitas!! A parte artística deixava a ginástica mais bela. Hoje as ginastas são incríveis, mas a maioria deixa a desejar na leveza elegância, dando prioridade às acrobacias.👏👏👏
Надя великолепна!
A 14 year old girl from an "obscure poor country" runs away with tens all over the place. Just beautiful. Olga same beauty. Two icons in gymnastic history.
Of course it is Nadia, always and forever.
I prefer Olga Korbut.
I believe she should have received more recognition just like Nadia had. We all know that Nadia was the first gymnast to achieve a perfect 10 in gymnastics, that’s why she got more recognition. Olga didn’t get as many perfect 10’s as Nadia because Nadia really focused on perfection and was very consistent. But if we watch Olga’s and Nadia’s styles on floor, beam and bars, they had completely different styles. Olga focused more on creative tumbles with a lot of flexibility. I love her floor routine and her performance at 1976 beam finals (where she does a move that requires A LOT of flexibility). And I don’t even have to mention the KORBUT FLIP on UNEVEN BARS!!! Until today, everyone gets impressed when they see replays of that move.
I know that most people still prefer Nadia because of her influence in modern gymnastics, but I prefer Olga Korbut gymnastics style. Nevertheless, they both are legends of artistic gymnastics. And just a quick reminder, Olga’s first Olympics was in 1972, while Nadia’s was in 1976.
So, before Nadia Comaneci, there was Olga Korbut.
Ambas geniales... pero olga ... esas asimétricas, de otro planeta
Cada una en su momento fué espectacular Olga en el 72 y Nadia en el 76, si se hubieran enfrentado las 2 en su momento de gloria hubiera sido muy difícil saber quién ganaría. Recuerdo a Nadia en el 76 tan ágil y espectacular, tal cómo se ve en el vídeo, Olga ya un poco apagada y triste al verse desplazada por Nadia, claro tenía más edad Olga y en ése entonces Nadia con su 10 perfecto nunca antes ganado fué la sensación. ❤
I agree how graceful Korbut was. It was not just her beautiful manner alone also but also a result of her environment -the arts (composition, ballet etc) were truly vibrant and highly developed in USSR but this grace was part of the training specifically to USSR gymnastics also! See her preparations on film. I like Korbut’s words at 28 minutes “what a beautiful gymnast you suddenly are!... you must do it beautifully.. you need to feel love and then your performance will be better” - in our times the emphasis on grace and beauty is lost in gymnastics. czcams.com/video/ovN5i0sHMq4/video.html
Eu tinha apenas 10 anos de idade quando Olga Korbut foi o xodó da ginástica nos Jogos Olímpicos de Munique-1972. Quatro anos depois, Nadia Comaneci levou o esporte à perfeição em Montreal-1976, enquanto a ginasta soviética popularizou a modalidade, hoje tenho 62, mas, juro que nunca mais vi sequências de apresentações tão perfeitas assim.
comparing these two immense talents is like comparing apples to oranges. comaneci was famous for her calm demeanor and accurate uncompromising technical skills. however, i have always had a soft spot for olga. there’s something. childlike, impish, and bubbly about her. the way she flips her head from side to side in her characteristic cute way made her fans adore her.
Queda clara la superioridad de Olga: plasticidad, atrevimiento, tecnica, vuelo en camara lenta perfeccion e imperfección que la catapulta hacia los dioses..
Nadia era muy superior a Olga en la viga, tenía elementos y enlaces de mayor dificultad, tenía Aerial frontal, y un Aerial Cartwheel más un enlace y en su desmonte un doble twist, todos esos elementos valen más ahora que el mortal hacia atrás de Olga, ademas en este video pusieron el ejercicio obligatorio de Nadia, y no pusieron su ejercicio Libre Opcional que tiene mucho más grado de dificultad que el que presentan en este video. Por si no lo has visto te dejo el enlace: czcams.com/users/shorts6M2q44vYlYQ