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Finally.... Someone saved me..... Now I don't need to stammer and get nervous when trying to explain how to over hand dig to my receivers.... Thanks y'all
I hear a lot of people say that you can open hand receive with fingers (i.e. "set") an attack and it doesn't need to be clean as long as the attack is hard driven. In this video, you mention being able to use your fingers on a hard driven ball, which (I think?) implies this is correct. However, after reading through the FIVB and AVP rulebooks, I can't seem to find this rule. In fact, the rules seem to specify the opposite: a double contact is permitted on the first contact on any ball (as long as it is part of a single motion) EXCEPT when using open hand/fingers. Can you clarify? When can you open hand receive with fingers and does it need to be clean (no double contact, no lift)? Thanks!!!
It needs to be a reaction such as by reflex, that's why you are also allowed to use this technique after a defensive blocking as long as your reaction is instinctive, and you can't really dig the ball with another surface.
There's another exception in the rules - you're allowed for a short catch of the hard driven ball. And this short catch absorbs a lot of potential double touches - making it legal.
Great video! Really appreciate this type of content :) In game situation I usually end up using a mix of tomahawk and this "open flat hand with the finger cross", and I had not realized up to know that I actually tend to mess up more with the later. Funny to see the outcomes you exemplified, very familiar haha. Unless it's hard driven, tomahawk ONLY from now on. Thanks!
I'm starting to see people on sand and grass use the flat-hand-together (5:10) and pushing the ball rather than hitting it so they don't get called for double or open-hand receiving like in indoor. I can't convince anyone this is illegal since its really a lift. Am I wrong? Is there a video?
Correct me if I'm wrong but I see a lot of beginners or even intermidiate players passing serves overhead digging... where I think there is no need to do that if you position yourself correctly.
Is it legal to do a two-handed slappy (no fingers) on a non-hard-driven ball? For example, on a high server receive. I always thought no, but I lost that argument in a tournament today.
hooold on! youre telling me you can dig with what looks like a hand set? Isnt that one of the main differences between indoor and beach, you are explicitly not allowed to do that? :)
i respectfully but fully disagree. The tomahawk is a terrible idea for overhead digging- only good control for very soft balls and experienced players- who would have even more control with open hands. I see tomahawks and 90% of them go in random directions, best case to the other side.
Hi there! It definitely can be hard to have good control with the tomahawk, but we've found that this is usually because no one practices it! You can't expect to pull out a perfect tomahawk on the one play where you need it if it's your first tomahawk of the day, or even of the week! Throw some practice reps into your warmup routine and see if your opinions changes :) To clarify, definitely not disagreeing that open hand digging gives you more control; however, you can't open hand dig every ball - it has to be hard-driven!
I started to use tomahawk looking at this channel - and was provided with a really poor experience (exactly like you described). But it didn't stop me, I included this element in my regular routine. And after 2 months it changed dramatically. For soft and medium high balls it works perfectly - really predictable and high. I see players around me - and their double palm option works worse, with really low energy and mostly just above their heads, not in a proper direction for pass/set. It took me some time not to use tomahawk against serve (when I'm tired and don't move my legs) or high energy spike - because it not precise enough and provides an unpredictable result. In this case it's better to use two palms
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Can someone please clear up the open hand receive rule. Everyone seems to have a slightly different answer...typical answer is "technically allowed, IF executed properly, but most amateur people can't thus NO open hand receive. Or "yes, one can open hand receive IF it's hard driven and player doesn't have time to use another option" So does that mean one can receive a serve open handed because most serves are hard driven? Then some want to define hard driven? Thus, to avoid all these general questions/definitions my amateur group does not allow Open hand receives under any circumstances. However, i got flack when i tried to implement that in a new group i started in another region. please help! lol
2 cases: hard driven and not. In both you are NOT allowed for double touch when open handed. So you have to deal with both hands absolutely simultaneously which is really hard (impossible vs floating serve? especially in windy conditions) - soft serve (floating or beginners' simple serve). The ball has a lot of energy, not fully predictable trajectory and you should do a very quick contact and no double touch - it must be like a proper set. At the same time you, should return enough energy to the ball for the good set. 100% you'll get double touch or lift error even on professional level - that's why it is not used at all vs not power serves. Simply don't do it - or you'll get an inevitable call. - hard-driven. Ok, here you have an option. The rules allows you to make a short catch (actually it's inevitable against very fast ball when open handed). When you have a short catch - it eliminates a lot of quick double touch cases because it's just absorbed. So it becomes quite legal - and sometimes used by professionals. But against really fast ball... it works poor and unpredictable, our fingers are weak. What is hard-driven?... Hmm, it's up to the judge and he measures your possible time for reaction, not the quality of the spike/serve. If you have an option how to receive and choose a method - it is not hard driven. If you sort of instinctively protect your face - it is hard enough. Let's be realistic: you simply cannot properly pass soft serve open-handed, never. And you don't have hard enough serves on your level. And if you occasionally face the really hard serve into your face - ok, then allow your reaction to do any sort of protection and you have high chances it will be treated as legal
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Thanks for answering my question. Someday....someday gonna get that tomahawk down.
Finally....
Someone saved me..... Now I don't need to stammer and get nervous when trying to explain how to over hand dig to my receivers....
Thanks y'all
Super helpful! I'm newer to beach so getting used to overhand digging and always flailing or wanting to revert to indoor moves. Thanks for the tips!
I hear a lot of people say that you can open hand receive with fingers (i.e. "set") an attack and it doesn't need to be clean as long as the attack is hard driven. In this video, you mention being able to use your fingers on a hard driven ball, which (I think?) implies this is correct. However, after reading through the FIVB and AVP rulebooks, I can't seem to find this rule. In fact, the rules seem to specify the opposite: a double contact is permitted on the first contact on any ball (as long as it is part of a single motion) EXCEPT when using open hand/fingers. Can you clarify? When can you open hand receive with fingers and does it need to be clean (no double contact, no lift)? Thanks!!!
It needs to be a reaction such as by reflex, that's why you are also allowed to use this technique after a defensive blocking as long as your reaction is instinctive, and you can't really dig the ball with another surface.
only as a reflex- if it looks on purpose, you better have the most beautiful technical style bc refs will call double on that 95% of the time
There's another exception in the rules - you're allowed for a short catch of the hard driven ball. And this short catch absorbs a lot of potential double touches - making it legal.
Is open-hand over-head dig not ideal on hard spikes? Thx, best video on the subject!
I was wondering how to fix this after playing on last Sunday. Thank you for making this video 😌❤️
Great video! Really appreciate this type of content :)
In game situation I usually end up using a mix of tomahawk and this "open flat hand with the finger cross", and I had not realized up to know that I actually tend to mess up more with the later. Funny to see the outcomes you exemplified, very familiar haha.
Unless it's hard driven, tomahawk ONLY from now on.
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I'm starting to see people on sand and grass use the flat-hand-together (5:10) and pushing the ball rather than hitting it so they don't get called for double or open-hand receiving like in indoor. I can't convince anyone this is illegal since its really a lift. Am I wrong? Is there a video?
Correct me if I'm wrong but I see a lot of beginners or even intermidiate players passing serves overhead digging... where I think there is no need to do that if you position yourself correctly.
We agree!
Is it legal to do a two-handed slappy (no fingers) on a non-hard-driven ball? For example, on a high server receive. I always thought no, but I lost that argument in a tournament today.
If the ball is landing far behind you and its a matter of reach, like the last 1,2 inches, is it ok to use open hands? ie, fingers?
We recommend never using open hands. Open to way to much scrutiny.
no. use pokey
Panda's have paws 🐾 ;)
hooold on! youre telling me you can dig with what looks like a hand set? Isnt that one of the main differences between indoor and beach, you are explicitly not allowed to do that? :)
Only if it's a hard driven ball, otherwise you need to use tomahawk, pokey, etc
In serve receive, is it legal to use your two hands stacked flat on top of each other? If it sticks it’s illegal? or it’s just fine no matter what?
stacked flat or separate, but rigid hands - everything is fine.
i respectfully but fully disagree. The tomahawk is a terrible idea for overhead digging- only good control for very soft balls and experienced players- who would have even more control with open hands. I see tomahawks and 90% of them go in random directions, best case to the other side.
Hi there! It definitely can be hard to have good control with the tomahawk, but we've found that this is usually because no one practices it! You can't expect to pull out a perfect tomahawk on the one play where you need it if it's your first tomahawk of the day, or even of the week! Throw some practice reps into your warmup routine and see if your opinions changes :)
To clarify, definitely not disagreeing that open hand digging gives you more control; however, you can't open hand dig every ball - it has to be hard-driven!
I started to use tomahawk looking at this channel - and was provided with a really poor experience (exactly like you described). But it didn't stop me, I included this element in my regular routine. And after 2 months it changed dramatically. For soft and medium high balls it works perfectly - really predictable and high. I see players around me - and their double palm option works worse, with really low energy and mostly just above their heads, not in a proper direction for pass/set. It took me some time not to use tomahawk against serve (when I'm tired and don't move my legs) or high energy spike - because it not precise enough and provides an unpredictable result. In this case it's better to use two palms
what about poking? You arguably have the highest/furthest reach when over-head poking
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can i ask what is the standard net height for men? and can you please make a video on how to increase jump
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Noo dont kill my finger cross style!! im profi at this :D
Haha
Can someone please clear up the open hand receive rule. Everyone seems to have a slightly different answer...typical answer is "technically allowed, IF executed properly, but most amateur people can't thus NO open hand receive. Or "yes, one can open hand receive IF it's hard driven and player doesn't have time to use another option" So does that mean one can receive a serve open handed because most serves are hard driven? Then some want to define hard driven? Thus, to avoid all these general questions/definitions my amateur group does not allow Open hand receives under any circumstances. However, i got flack when i tried to implement that in a new group i started in another region. please help! lol
2 cases: hard driven and not. In both you are NOT allowed for double touch when open handed. So you have to deal with both hands absolutely simultaneously which is really hard (impossible vs floating serve? especially in windy conditions)
- soft serve (floating or beginners' simple serve). The ball has a lot of energy, not fully predictable trajectory and you should do a very quick contact and no double touch - it must be like a proper set. At the same time you, should return enough energy to the ball for the good set. 100% you'll get double touch or lift error even on professional level - that's why it is not used at all vs not power serves. Simply don't do it - or you'll get an inevitable call.
- hard-driven. Ok, here you have an option. The rules allows you to make a short catch (actually it's inevitable against very fast ball when open handed). When you have a short catch - it eliminates a lot of quick double touch cases because it's just absorbed. So it becomes quite legal - and sometimes used by professionals. But against really fast ball... it works poor and unpredictable, our fingers are weak.
What is hard-driven?... Hmm, it's up to the judge and he measures your possible time for reaction, not the quality of the spike/serve. If you have an option how to receive and choose a method - it is not hard driven. If you sort of instinctively protect your face - it is hard enough.
Let's be realistic: you simply cannot properly pass soft serve open-handed, never. And you don't have hard enough serves on your level. And if you occasionally face the really hard serve into your face - ok, then allow your reaction to do any sort of protection and you have high chances it will be treated as legal
What's your best trick shot to fool the opponent?
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I do not like the tomahawk.