Nissan e-NV200 24kWh to 40kWh battery upgrade PART 1
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- čas přidán 25. 06. 2021
- Upgrading the battery in a 2015 Nissan e-NV200 from 24kWh to 40kWh.
*Note #1: The CAN bridge installation location shown in this video is incorrect, see this video for why this is and a new improved CAN-bridge installation location: • e-NV200 battery upgrad...
*Note #2: The battery pairing method using LeafSpy pro is in Beta and has only been tested on a few vehicles so far, use at your own risk
*Update #3 (March 22): Firmware issues with CAN bridge have now been fixed, I recommend fitting a CAN bridge for a seamless upgrade. Firmware for CAN bridge is now open-source: github.com/dalathegreat/Nissa...
Nissan e-NV200 battery upgrade procedure: docs.google.com/document/d/e/...
Thanks to @Dala's EV Repair for advice and providing the CAN bridge battery translator device.
Dala's battery upgrade user manual is a very useful resource for battery swaps github.com/dalathegreat/Batte...
Dala's EV repair, this is where I sourced the CAN bridge from: dalasevrepair.fi/
Extra features on Dala's CAN bridge: github.com/dalathegreat/LeafE...
HEVRA registered EV friendly garage that did the swap: B&K Williams in Caernarfon, Wales: / evnorthwales
I got my battery pack from: www.evbreakers.com/ - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Great to hear from the upgrade. Like these kind of upgrade efforts.
Hopefully more experiences with this package on your next travel video’s.
Really informative video - an interesting and worthwhile upgrade. Will be good to see how the additional options help on those longer journeys.
Your always doing what I'm thinking, truly inspirational I'm hoping to follow your lead as before, many thanks :)
Great news. Happy for you three and the van too.
Looking forward to seeing you on some new trips with the new battery in
Looking forward to seeing you buying a diesel car and start living a normal life.
As always you make it look so simple! Plenty of life in my 30kWh pack yet and day-to-day the range is more than adequate. But at some point I think I'll want to upgrade to a 40kWh just for a bit of added convenience on longer trips 😎
Brilliant video Glyn 👍👏👏
Crikey Glyn, you are a veritable source of knowledge and information! Well done and thanks again. We really want to ‘go leccy’ as soon as we can👍
Thanks, that's great to hear 👍
I knew it would happen. :-) Very happy for you! I wish you many great Eurotrips!
Thanks! I hope so to, once we're allowed to travel again.....
@@GlynHudson Have you seen the Leaf battery with a mix of Nissan cells and Tesla cells ?? and the Nissan battery pack made from cylindrical cells ??
Really useful info thanks Glyn another great video !-)
Awesome mileage! Good vid too, thanks.
The bigger battery will definitely help you plan a little less for charge points on your next adventure :) good job mate
Thanks, it will be interesting to see how I get on with multiple rapid chargers. Thanks for all your work recording the Leaf rapid charging temperature performance (or lack of!). The CAN bridge I installed will allow me to reduce peak rapid charge rate which should help avoid the worst of rapidgate, and the env200 has battery cooling which should also help.
Awesome and informative video as always, very helpful as well 👌
Thanks, although most of the hard work has been done by other clever people developing this new feature for LeafSpy. Your van next?! There is lots of details info on battery swaps on Dalas youtube channel czcams.com/channels/c3g-KhOBoicgOrB4KkMeew.html
@@GlynHudson definitely on the plans, and I have been in touch with him as well, last year, when batteries were cheaper 🙄 I also have Mitsubishi 3000GT, which I would love to have as an EV
Great news Glyn!!
Well done Glyn, lol forward to hearing how many miles you can actually do in it now, before having to charge up 😉✌🇬🇧
I've just bought a leaf to get into driving EV's
I'll probably buy a van for the same purpose as you, however that's for the future 😉
Thanks, Today I drove 73 miles with 50% remaining so approx 148 miles range in summer, quiet an upgrade!
Good job! Very inspirational
Very interesting, I am so envious!
Great and detailed vid, off to do mine, and thank you 👍
Good luck!
Nice one Glyn, I hope your next films will be the install of a solar power bank using your old battery pack.
Ed
Thanks. Sadly, I've not got the physical space for home storage of this size. I'm currently selling the old pack. Will consider disassembly and selling the modules if nobody wants the whole thing. I will certainly the disassembly process! www.ebay.co.uk/itm/284346027394
I think that may be high on the criteria for our next house, presently we have 4 hipped dorma roofs that steal most of the solar space. I do manage to charge my e bike and run the pond from solar. And we still have free to use renewable energy charge points in every town in west yorkshire for the Tesla, nearly 3k miles on it now.
I am currently pondering the voltage conversion for running an electric outboard off my e bike battery. I will be booked onto aberfon if I pull it off.
Good luck with the sale . Ed
Thanks for the vid. After watching your videos this morning, it’s given me the confidence to buy an electric van to convert👍
I see this was year ago, may I ask what has happen since ?
I bought a T6 Diesel 😂
@@JJamJ what happen to the electric dream....
@@AdrianMcDaidI swapped it for a wet one😉
Nice job - looks easier than changing the battery in my dashcam - if heavier and pricier
Indeed, just a wee bit heavier!
Great video glyn, I had no idea leaf spy can now clear the battery DTC, I assume this works on the Leaf too.👍
Yes it does, it's a very now feature only added to the beta version of LeafSpy in the last few months. Very cool feature
Good upgrade
Very interesting. Thanks!
That's very useful upgrade , interesting that leafspy can do that now . See you in Scotland some point :)
Brilliant!
Great video. I was wondering, in your ownership have you had any problems with the van and is there anything to look out for when buying one of these used ?
This is the only problem we've had in 6yrs, it's very reliable. There is far less to go wrong compared to the diesel version: czcams.com/video/pvLTl_JqrWo/video.html
Great video as always; your insight is always next level to other videos. What are your thoughts on the conundrum of whether to 1) go ENV200 + better battery/ies now, or 2) wait a year for all those cool new eVans like the eVivaro, to be a year old and about the same price as option 1 is now? That's where I am. The 2 main factors that has me unsure are the probable price parity of these options, but with the obvious benefit of a far more advanced van; and the fact that DC charging has started a global trend towards installing CCS and reducing, or ceasing, Chademo. Additionally, and this is personal to me, I already have a great, little petrol camper - so no big rush to get something, and I want 250kms+ range for most of my trips. Thanks a bunch mate!
Thanks, I would go for the e-NV200 if it meets your needs, it's tried and tested and very reliable. From what I've heard the VivaroE is a decent van but it's a first generation vehicle with its fair share of issues. There will always be a new vehicle on the horizon. Better to enjoy driving and EV and avoid burning petrol sooner rather than later if you have the option.
@@GlynHudson Thanks for the advice; certain food for thought.
Nice clear video good to see the recycling of the crashed van. What did you do with the old battery?
It's for sale
Nice job Glynn! Have just watched a similar vid from a company in NZ. The only difference with their conversation was the canbus wiring - theirs was a plugin module that goes between the pack and the Nissan wiring loom multiplug.
I didn't know that the ENV packs were different from the Leaf with active cooling. Do you know anecdotally whether that has translated into longer battery life? My 24kw Leaf is now dipping under 86% SOH at very nearly 40k miles.
I used a similar module, I just located it inside the cabin. It's too early to tell how the 40kWh battery will hold up, but battery degradation has just as much to do with age as millage, the battery will degrade even if its not used, I imagine your 24kWh battery is now quite a few years old. The 40kWh will require less cell cycles per mile therefore theoretically should last longer. I'll let you know in 10yrs time!
@@GlynHudson Ha okay well best of luck and enjoy the upgrade 😊
Can you post a link to that video please; I'm currently looking for someone in nz to do a battery swap? Thanks a bunch.
@@jezthomas4402 Yep here you go Jez czcams.com/video/eTwLAomH7h0/video.html
What is the obness app for? Also, where can I find the wiring diagrams?
Another great video mate. Sadly in New Zealand nissan still arnt selling the Env200 so a used 40kwh is still over £30,000 😬 I'm happy with my £6500 24kwh env200 though......... maybe
Wow that's expensive! The 24kwh battery is still very capable
@@GlynHudson sure is, that's also for the absolute base model with 10,000miles on it.
Oh how I miss the UK...... sometimes
I think you mean 30,000NZD not pounds.
You can buy an entire fully functional used 40kwh leaf from Japan for that price.
@@CanonFirefly no I mean pounds, in NZD they are $62,000. Crazy money right.
And yeah you can get a Tesla for nearly that. It sucks
@@willyd-adv that's more than an entire new Leaf though?
Hi Glyn just a quick question about the e nv200? I have been on the lookout for a Van for ages. I have come across a cheapish e NV for about 10k. The only problem is it's only a 3.3 charge. No fast charge which is probably the reason why it's cheap 🤔 would you give it a wide berth 😁
It depends on what you want to use it for, the lack of rapid charging will make long trips impossible. If you don't anticipate ever needing to drive further than the range of the vehicle then maybe it could work for you. Personally I think rapid charging is essential, the van becomes much more capable with rapid charging
@@GlynHudson cheers Glyn for your guidance. The thing I can't get my head around is people trying to sell 2014 e NV for almost the same price as they were New 7 years ago
Hi, Glyn. In the description of video you paste url to googledocs, but I can not open it. Could you olease check link, and update manual for the battery upgrage. Thanx
Mmm the link sees to work fine for me, here it is again: docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTA70mUALGeTLl0KeYE9J73TJYCgRago5zu7016zzEFOCtAEhWCWO2Y7LD1ogEa8UNg_g4u6PHNIXZj/pub
Hi did u put d side window yourself or was it already there,thanx!
Hi, I installed it myself, see czcams.com/video/wmeFmO9miXg/video.htmlsi=vvx7IgJerUxYmQzH
Not sure you will still be checking comments on videos 2 years old, but hoping you might :-) Having removed the battery I was wondering if you had any advice about installing a rear seat in the cargo area of an eNV200 Van (not combi)? It looks like the battery pack goes pretty far back, so I'm nervous making any holes in the floor to fit a seat, any advice would be awesome
I fitted our rock and roll bed without removing the battey. The battrey doesn't extend that far back. If you wanted to fit a seat a rear seat towards the front of the van this would require removing the battey, see photo album photos.app.goo.gl/CmbCeMN6rBCoMBT87
@@GlynHudson wow thanks for answering so fast really appreciate that. Yes I thought so, I only want to put a single seat in for occasional crew style passenger, so might have to get a specialist on it.
I have a e nv 200 and when i put the lights on at night it doesn't want to go fast
What was that app on your phone when you were charging?
Open Vehicle Monitoring System (ovms) shop.openenergymonitor.com/open-vehicle-monitoring-ovms-wifi-3g-europe/
Hello I'm Rob, I'm thinking of doing a nve200 camper van conversion on a 24kwh battery option, how much did the 40kwh battery upgrade cost you, thanks
I paid £6k for the battey. However, the main challenge is fininding a battey. Nissan don't sell them, so salvage vehicles is the only source
Can we have a rough breakdown of your costs please? I have a 24kw as a works vehicle, but would love to upgrade at some point.
I paid £5k + VAT for the battery which was 1yr old. I sourced the battery and did a lot of the work myself. CleevelyevEV offer the full battery upgrade service including sourcing the batter, B&K (the garage I worked with) with offer a similar service soon www.cleevelyev.co.uk/battery-upgrades/
@@GlynHudson Thank you!
Do you mind giving cost breakdown ? What did you do with the old battery , did that help pay towards the upgrade ?
I paid £5k for a replacement battey, although they are very hard to find. I dismantled my old battey and sold all modules and other parts separately for a similar amount, this is covered in another video. It was a lot of work dismantling the old pack! This was several years ago now, prices have probably changed significantly
@@GlynHudson thanks for taking the time to reply. Stumble across your vids. Great idea in getting money back with splitting pack
@@AdrianMcDaid it's also easier to transport modules compared to the full pack
Echo everyone else’s sentiments. Defo going to do this change. I would imagine it will be difficult to get hold of the batteries?
Yes, that's the hardest part!
Unfortunately Nissan don't sell batteries so the only option is to obtain a battey from a salvage vehicle
@@GlynHudson disaster that was my next option.
Do you think it is possible to install the latest and largest Leaf Battery Pack(62kwh) into e-nv200?
The Nissan Leaf battery is a different physical size to the env200 so it wouldn't be possible to fit a 62kWh Nissan leaf battery into an env200. The largest battery available for the env200 is 40kWh. However Muxsan can fit extender batteries into the env200 upto a maximum size of 88kWh! The disadvantage is a reduced payload www.muxsan.com/English/products.html#nissan-e-nv200-battery-extender
@@GlynHudson Thank you! It's quite interesting. I hope Nissan would expand its lineup like this kind of large-capacity EVs..
Buy 88 kw ong eange
Why cant i use the vans battery to power say kettle or fridge ? Is this harder to do
Yes, I do just this, see this video for explanation czcams.com/video/v6VsGV9emVI/video.html
I have the option to buy a battery from Nissan Leaf 40 kWh and I have an e-nv200 24kWh, the question is if I take out individual batteries from the 40 kWh leaf, can I put them in the e-nv200 24kWh
The 40kWh modules are a different size to the 24kWh modules
How much did this cost you Glyn?
I paid £5k + VAT for the battery which was 1yr old. I sourced the battery and did a lot of the work myself. CleevelyEV offer the full battery upgrade service including sourcing the batter, B&K (the garage I worked with) with offer a similar service soon www.cleevelyev.co.uk/battery-upgrades/
@@GlynHudson Thanks for the info. I might be interested, maybe they might like to run a list?
Are these upgrades approved by Nissan?
From 2018 onwards this van was sold with this 40kWh battery pre-fitted
@GlynHudson I know, but I was more interested in you can find a company that makes battery upgrades certified by Nissan.
173 mile range 40 kw
Tejsa dell 40 kw q73 ke rsnge too 200 mile range
Damn, this "forced" me to create an account on a car part site and place a wanted ad for a 40kWh pack...
how much are the 40kwh packs?
@@nameberry220 Sadly no idea, just got one reply and it was simply stating that packs currently are not available.
148 mile range
Sad state baterr 125. Mile range
Unable to buy a Nissan e-NV200 in the United States of America.
I know, that's a real shame.
146 milevrange
Q48 mile rabge
if you are looking, you are buying, lol
Indeed, I should have learnt that by now
Vw buy q16 Mike's aplenty vater 120 Mike rang e tejsa cleared 114 Mikkelsen per chsregrr