Leaf springs are the only springs I see custom made. The UK is full of leaf spring specialists. Finding custom antiroll bars on the other hand has been impossible the last 5 years of searching.
Love the video. I see you put the extended battery in parallel with the original 24kw one. It would be great if you could compile a diy kit with instructions, some wiring diagrams, pre programed can bridge, second bms, cell balancers and the way you set up to trigger the second battery contactor, you mentioned in the video, but didn’t show the hv contactor for the e-nv200. People around in Australia could buy the kit without batteries and then could byo Lifepo4 batteries boxes etc. I would do a 112s 3.2v 105ah pack. 37kwh extra. What I’m saying I would buy a kit from you and get a van from Japan Auctions.
Wow. Leaf springs in this day and age! My 21-yr old Peugeot Expert at least has proper rear suspension. It also has drums though. Still pretty normal for vans I think. As you say, great pity not to put some battery in all that space underneath. And I am jealous of your shiny workshop! Subscribed.
yerah but it would have been a 80k van........Nissan did the right thing.....that's why there are hundreds of them all over London.....great van ,love mine
What a great build, thanks for sharing! I wondered how many extra cells you would need to add to a 40kwh model to achieve the same result? Also, could any of the extra batteries be housed beneath the front seats?
I'd guess you can get very close by putting modules in the spot where the spare tire sits now. I measured it, you can probably fit two 8-module packs underneath. The downside is that it's exposed to the elements, so it needs a pretty sturdy enclosure. The 40kWh would technically need an extra 24 modules (instead of 40 - makes sense right) to get to the same '69kWh'.
I wish these things were available in the United States. It would revolutionize vanlife. But America is so anti green right now. Hopefully when we get a new President who actually believes in global warming, science & that windmills Do NOT cause cancer more electric vehicles will be sold here.
i think it's still pretty normal for load carrying vehicles like vans and pickup trucks to have leaf springs. they perform well, are simple and reduce sway compared to coils. I would prefer coils on a passenger car though
Interesting to see what those sneaky engineers left as growth options. Would be better if I could actually buy the van here, can only get a leaf or a ice van. With that range and recharge rate it could make a fantastic day trip vehicle. Lots of room and range.
may you look at the RV parts I remember to place a "Air Balg" between the Stopper and leaf spring suspension, get a higher load and much more comfortable ride. you need a small pressure pump and level valve all in one system .
Ah, like replaceable air suspension. That's really interesting, I didn't know this was something you can add aftermarket, but it makes a ton of sense. Should help with damping as well. I'll look around if there's something that fits the e-nv200!
Where can I find the info and gain the knowledge of batteries. Iv heard a couple of times about discharge in batteries or equalising them. How will I learn the basics of why I can’t just have interchangeable packs at different charge rates etc, or a trailer with its own pack and an umbilical cord to somehow put the power to the prime mover etc. Thanks in advance
Hi there. Now I've known how to plug an additional battery,but ive got the Main question. Does your battery need to be balanced as a leaf, env batterys? I've not seen it in your videos. What kind of battery do you use in all your projects?
Great work! I have a 40kWh ENV200 and have been looking at ways of increasing range too, however the loss of load area wouldn't work for me as I put seats in the back. Have you considered making an underslung pack that fits in the void where the spare wheel sits?
The downside of that space is that it's very inefficiently packed; the spring range prevents putting a pack over the entire length of the empty air under the loading bay. You can only safely install ~17kWh there. Might still be an interesting option, especially for the 40kWh
Sorry, hadn't seen your reply. 17kWh would suit me fine. I can get a suitable box made from 6mm seam welded aluminium which will hang from the chassis just behind the rear axle. Can you email me directly please so that we can discuss further, my address is hello@eco-couriers.com
Would 't be an idea to build make a box or two "euro-pallets" with cabinets, a kitchen and a bed that would turn a standard e-NV200 into a campervan with extended range and a house battery. Just make it so a forklift can move it in and out in a few minutes ;-) Would be a great rental....
it Good job man, goed gedaan. i just wonder about the cost N2 then cooling the new battery set? N2. then the overall programimg, how did you do that ? I would like to study these stuff so i may upgrade my car as well. Please reach out. cheers
That's a very cool upgrade, especially the part where you edit the BMS to handle an extended pack. Could you reveal some details as to how that is done?
We have a little box that sits in between the car's main computer (VCM) and both the original BMS and that of the extender battery. The box essentially combines the information of the two BMSes into one number that the VCM uses to generate the expected range, etc.
Like it, that you think the price of to change my 24kw battery to a 40kw can be? my car nissan e-nv200 evalia 24kw from year 2014 have now 110000km and 85% soh on the battery but gues it be about 150000km and 75% to 80% soh before i can drive to you and change
I'll do my best to make more videos - we now have a new video of our own van which we range-extended even more. And yes, we'll be expanding this year still.
I wonder if you are able to do this for a bmw i3. Adding more battery in the useless rear trunk or. Chevy bolt. Splice a cable to connect to a gas generator to trickle charge the bolt battery while driving
We're not looking at the i3, Volt PHEV or Bolt anytime soon. In general, VW and BMW tend to be a lot trickier to reverse engineer and to get good schematics for, so these are longer-term projects to consider.
"They could have put in a twice as large battery... but they didn't" That's the thing about gas car makers when they make electric models. They tell their designers to "Make it good, but not TOO good."
so they dropped a leaf unit into a van , bloody good job Nissan ........got it to market at a decent price..........love these vans, yes more range would be good but I go all over the UK with no problem...
How is there Henk Westbroek on the radio?! 🤣🤣 Are you in the Netherlands? I saw a 2017 model with the old 24kwh battery. What would you say it's the actual value (if all works fine still)? They sell around 10.000 euro ex. Vat but i feel the actual value is more or less 5 or 6ish ( ah i looked it up, indeed Dutch :) )
Great...so from 22 kWh to 66 kWh...more than the premium leaf e+ How heavy is it...and what is left for cargo? the evalia would need a diffrent solution... 4 more chargers and it could charge like a zoe at AC chargers....
It's about 390kg, there is about 400kg left for cargo. Evalia needs a taller, shorter battery box - we'll be looking at that one too if the e-nv200 van doesn't end up having any software issues.
That's going to exceed the weight allowance of your van. The maximum we can add is approx. 62kWh, and even that is pushing it (that weighs about 600kg, leaving barely anything for cargo).
That part of the garage technically isn't ours - that's EV Europe. They convert oldtimers (that's most of the cars you see in the main area) to electric. This is a VW New Beetle converted to electric that's being driven by celebrity Dutch people on 1vandaag.
@@PowerElectronicsBlog - Oh, like that. I was thinking you bought it from them; just had to ask. Now i also get, why on 1vandaag, the car was só quiet. Hadn't thought it was an electric car at all (silly me) :P Sharing a place, is easier on the wallet i suppose :) Thanks for your reaction!
Definitely a possibility, and the cheapest option. But we have relatively bad experiences with helper springs, they tend to buckle easily. We might try though.
@@jarrodheley7879 Thanks for reply. Is the AC 7kW charger simply supplying the power to the car or you need some king of module between the wall and the car?
Almost certainly not, it's a pack with such low losses that even the much smaller extender int he Leaf doesn't heat up significantly under repeated fast charging and driving. But we'll be testing that.
you want a truck to be built like a car, and the car like a truck? not many trucks have disc brakes and they are heavier, same for leaf springs the other way, not many trucks have coil springs etc.
@@mattwoodproperty some do, yes, but not many, all the trucks I have worked on and owned have drum brakes and leaf springs. apparently discs cost twice the price.
4:30 You really don't have a clue what you're talking about. LOL :-) The wheel wells are covered (plastic) in the front. Precisely to silent the ride. On the back there's nothing which produce a quite noisy experience. If in doubt go for a ride without the covers. The difference is staggering. ;-) Or even better if you can get some for the back the ride "quality" will benefit a lot. BTW the lack of them is the first indication of a cheap option by the manufacturer. Same applies for the suspension, brakes...etc. All clear indicators of cost cutting. Anyway nice video and presentation. Cheers
Seeing new video notification from your channel is like finding my favourite present under a tree on christmas morning! :-D
Beautiful work on the e-NV200
Thanks for sharing this project.
Leaf springs are the only springs I see custom made. The UK is full of leaf spring specialists. Finding custom antiroll bars on the other hand has been impossible the last 5 years of searching.
Like "Rich rebuilds" with a European touch 😎👌
More professional too :)
@@uber1337hakz What's not professional about kitchen knives? :D
MrKroolboy don’t insult the man. Rich is not friendly this guy seems nice dude.
I will be tuning in to see how the van goes. I'd love to know how to splice in an additional battery for my Leaf.
Damn, well made video and good work!
I want to upgrade my eNV200 after watching this!
Love the video. I see you put the extended battery in parallel with the original 24kw one. It would be great if you could compile a diy kit with instructions, some wiring diagrams, pre programed can bridge, second bms, cell balancers and the way you set up to trigger the second battery contactor, you mentioned in the video, but didn’t show the hv contactor for the e-nv200. People around in Australia could buy the kit without batteries and then could byo Lifepo4 batteries boxes etc. I would do a 112s 3.2v 105ah pack. 37kwh extra. What I’m saying I would buy a kit from you and get a van from Japan Auctions.
There's a New Zealand company that does that.
@@dottyjyoung Oh cool. Do you know the name of the company please?
Please do a Kia Soul battery extension 😀 btw, love your videos 🤟
Wow. Leaf springs in this day and age! My 21-yr old Peugeot Expert at least has proper rear suspension. It also has drums though. Still pretty normal for vans I think. As you say, great pity not to put some battery in all that space underneath. And I am jealous of your shiny workshop! Subscribed.
Leaf springs are good for hauling heavy loads
My ENV200 has disk brakes in the rear too. It's a 40kWh version. I find that quite remarkable.
i wish we can do this to my renault fluence ZE :-)
I never realised that there was so much empty space beneath the e-nv200. They could fit a 100kWh pack in there if they wanted to.
yerah but it would have been a 80k van........Nissan did the right thing.....that's why there are hundreds of them all over London.....great van ,love mine
@@countteddy I'm about to buy one, what year is yours?
@@countteddy a second hand 40kwh costs 5k. Nissan should be able to produce a 100kwh battery for less than 10k.
What a great build, thanks for sharing!
I wondered how many extra cells you would need to add to a 40kwh model to achieve the same result? Also, could any of the extra batteries be housed beneath the front seats?
I'd guess you can get very close by putting modules in the spot where the spare tire sits now. I measured it, you can probably fit two 8-module packs underneath. The downside is that it's exposed to the elements, so it needs a pretty sturdy enclosure. The 40kWh would technically need an extra 24 modules (instead of 40 - makes sense right) to get to the same '69kWh'.
I wish these things were available in the United States. It would revolutionize vanlife. But America is so anti green right now. Hopefully when we get a new President who actually believes in global warming, science & that windmills Do NOT cause cancer more electric vehicles will be sold here.
i think it's still pretty normal for load carrying vehicles like vans and pickup trucks to have leaf springs. they perform well, are simple and reduce sway compared to coils. I would prefer coils on a passenger car though
Interesting to see what those sneaky engineers left as growth options. Would be better if I could actually buy the van here, can only get a leaf or a ice van. With that range and recharge rate it could make a fantastic day trip vehicle. Lots of room and range.
may you look at the RV parts I remember to place a "Air Balg" between the Stopper and leaf spring suspension, get a higher load and much more comfortable ride. you need a small pressure pump and level valve all in one system .
Ah, like replaceable air suspension. That's really interesting, I didn't know this was something you can add aftermarket, but it makes a ton of sense. Should help with damping as well. I'll look around if there's something that fits the e-nv200!
Neat!
Does the external pack have any cooling and/or heating now? Is it really required? (Is e-NV200 cooling/heating the cargo area too?)
Where can I find the info and gain the knowledge of batteries. Iv heard a couple of times about discharge in batteries or equalising them. How will I learn the basics of why I can’t just have interchangeable packs at different charge rates etc, or a trailer with its own pack and an umbilical cord to somehow put the power to the prime mover etc. Thanks in advance
Hello! Cool! And what power was the native battery?
Subscribed... :)
Whoo!
Hi there. Now I've known how to plug an additional battery,but ive got the Main question. Does your battery need to be balanced as a leaf, env batterys? I've not seen it in your videos. What kind of battery do you use in all your projects?
Great work! I have a 40kWh ENV200 and have been looking at ways of increasing range too, however the loss of load area wouldn't work for me as I put seats in the back. Have you considered making an underslung pack that fits in the void where the spare wheel sits?
The downside of that space is that it's very inefficiently packed; the spring range prevents putting a pack over the entire length of the empty air under the loading bay. You can only safely install ~17kWh there. Might still be an interesting option, especially for the 40kWh
@@PowerElectronicsBlog I'd definitely be interested in an extra 17kWh, can I contact you directly to discuss?
@@TheOnlyJizz Thought I responded to this, but the comment seems to be lost (I think - I haven't heard from you) - so again: info at muxsan dot com
Sorry, hadn't seen your reply. 17kWh would suit me fine. I can get a suitable box made from 6mm seam welded aluminium which will hang from the chassis just behind the rear axle. Can you email me directly please so that we can discuss further, my address is hello@eco-couriers.com
Hi
Looks very Nice. What kind of battery did you but, and is it possible to bye a copy of youre software?
400 kilos max? How much more weight do you think it would hold with a modified suspension?
Would 't be an idea to build make a box or two "euro-pallets" with cabinets, a kitchen and a bed that would turn a standard e-NV200 into a campervan with extended range and a house battery. Just make it so a forklift can move it in and out in a few minutes ;-)
Would be a great rental....
it Good job man, goed gedaan. i just wonder about the cost N2 then cooling the new battery set? N2. then the overall programimg, how did you do that ? I would like to study these stuff so i may upgrade my car as well. Please reach out. cheers
15:30 now I understand the range extension.
how much these batteries cost? or how much would this modification cost?
Dumb question maybe but why didn't you put some batteries in that empty space at the bottom?
Have you looked into adding helper springs over the leaf springs?
Hellwig 3512 LP-35 Heavy Duty Leaf Spring Kit www.amazon.com/dp/B005TIV0F2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_HNKKDb0TS1TAY
What is with the annoying music int he background? Makes it hard to hear what you're saying at times. Leave it out.
Sorry dude, I'll take more care next time with the audio mix!
That's a very cool upgrade, especially the part where you edit the BMS to handle an extended pack. Could you reveal some details as to how that is done?
We have a little box that sits in between the car's main computer (VCM) and both the original BMS and that of the extender battery. The box essentially combines the information of the two BMSes into one number that the VCM uses to generate the expected range, etc.
@@PowerElectronicsBlog Oh, that is pretty clever! Am I right in assuming that it's doing it through CAN-bus manipulation?
@@Kallenator1988 Correct, I have a video on the CAN MITM board we use.
@@PowerElectronicsBlog I will check it out, thanks for educating me ;)
I was trying to find this CAN man-in-the-middle video, but there was no information result after searching. Can you please help me? 😎
Hey guys😃💪, I'd Like ask where is MAIN SWITCH To disconnect the batteries? Thank you for Answer
can you post update video about this project?
Great project. So it originally was a 24 kWh? Great to see the splicing part, it actually looks rather straight forward.
Yeah, used to be a 24kWh in very good shape for an e-nv200.
PowerElectronicsBlog Cool. I dream about converting one to a small campervan.
Hello. Planing to do the same. What kid of cells is on the extender? Nissan?
Like it, that you think the price of to change my 24kw battery to a 40kw can be? my car nissan e-nv200 evalia 24kw from year 2014 have now 110000km and 85% soh on the battery but gues it be about 150000km and 75% to 80% soh before i can drive to you and change
Ecuador!
Would love to know how much this retro fit cost ? Awesome job !!!
€12000 ex. VAT
How so you cooling the Update battery?
Is it possible to get a van in the US.?
is it possible to extend the range for Toyota Prius gen 2?
Great job. Is it possible to share your experience? Do you think to expand your business in other European countries?
I'll do my best to make more videos - we now have a new video of our own van which we range-extended even more. And yes, we'll be expanding this year still.
@@PowerElectronicsBlog Perfect. I will follow you. Keep improving.
I wonder if you are able to do this for a bmw i3. Adding more battery in the useless rear trunk or.
Chevy bolt. Splice a cable to connect to a gas generator to trickle charge the bolt battery while driving
We're not looking at the i3, Volt PHEV or Bolt anytime soon. In general, VW and BMW tend to be a lot trickier to reverse engineer and to get good schematics for, so these are longer-term projects to consider.
@@PowerElectronicsBlog oh ok.
Lastima que no entiendo muy bien el ingles, me gustaría hacerlo en mi e-nv200 de 40kwh. Donde puedo encontrar información de como hacerlo? Gracias
Show me how 😫😫, I would love to drive my van to yours, but I'm in the UK!
"They could have put in a twice as large battery... but they didn't"
That's the thing about gas car makers when they make electric models. They tell their designers to "Make it good, but not TOO good."
so a 100k little white van with leaf springs designed for city/town deliveries?......with a 200 mile range ......?
@@countteddy If you want.
so they dropped a leaf unit into a van , bloody good job Nissan ........got it to market at a decent price..........love these vans, yes more range would be good but I go all over the UK with no problem...
How is there Henk Westbroek on the radio?! 🤣🤣 Are you in the Netherlands? I saw a 2017 model with the old 24kwh battery. What would you say it's the actual value (if all works fine still)? They sell around 10.000 euro ex. Vat but i feel the actual value is more or less 5 or 6ish ( ah i looked it up, indeed Dutch :) )
Hi is the extension approved by the Nissan company 😀?
Great...so from 22 kWh to 66 kWh...more than the premium leaf e+
How heavy is it...and what is left for cargo? the evalia would need a diffrent solution...
4 more chargers and it could charge like a zoe at AC chargers....
It's about 390kg, there is about 400kg left for cargo. Evalia needs a taller, shorter battery box - we'll be looking at that one too if the e-nv200 van doesn't end up having any software issues.
Hi mate, can you upgrade my ENV200? I wanted to add 3 x 24kwh battery packs to my van to give it a extra 72kwh boost.
That's going to exceed the weight allowance of your van. The maximum we can add is approx. 62kWh, and even that is pushing it (that weighs about 600kg, leaving barely anything for cargo).
1vandaag-beetle spotted!!
What's the story behind that, that car being in your garage?
That part of the garage technically isn't ours - that's EV Europe. They convert oldtimers (that's most of the cars you see in the main area) to electric. This is a VW New Beetle converted to electric that's being driven by celebrity Dutch people on 1vandaag.
@@PowerElectronicsBlog - Oh, like that. I was thinking you bought it from them; just had to ask.
Now i also get, why on 1vandaag, the car was só quiet. Hadn't thought it was an electric car at all (silly me) :P
Sharing a place, is easier on the wallet i suppose :)
Thanks for your reaction!
How about coil over springs on the rear shocks?
Definitely a possibility, and the cheapest option. But we have relatively bad experiences with helper springs, they tend to buckle easily. We might try though.
What is the input voltage for e-nv200 DC or AC ? I am confused if I want to fast charge can I supply high AC current or it needs external DC charge?
I think you can install an AC 7kW charger at home, but the rapid ~50kW chargers are DC.
@@jarrodheley7879 Thanks for reply. Is the AC 7kW charger simply supplying the power to the car or you need some king of module between the wall and the car?
Bankje er op. Raampjes er in. En hop met het hele gezin op vakantie 😎.
Can it do fast charger? If yes, it's perfect!
Yup, will test that today.
@@PowerElectronicsBlog, good luck! May the force be with you!
Chademo charging test video?
Noted. Will take a heck of a long time though.
Hi
¿Where are you based & how much would you charge to add kWhs to an outlander PHEV?
edgar x
Netherlands, we don't do the Outlander PHEV yet, but are planning to do them later this year.
PowerElectronicsBlog
¡Amazing!
¿Any idea of cost?
¿What would the env200 69 cost?
Thanks again
edgar x
@@sallepierrelamy We have no estimate for the cost of an Outlander conversion yet. The e-nv200 69kWh conversion costs €12 000 ex. VAT.
A lot of these complaints he is having i kept saying its just a van chill out
Kind people! Who knows how many liters of refrigerant the e-nv200 air conditioner gets into the system?
Coincidentally today we did a battery swap and checked that: it's 450g of R-1234a
@@PowerElectronicsBlog Thank you so much!!!
how about the temperature management for the extra pack? Won't it throttle the whole pack charging because of the overheated extra pack?
I don't think so. Less load per cell = less temp.
@@pashko90 is the BMS that advanced that it varies the charging current depending on the temperature on the cell/block level?
Almost certainly not, it's a pack with such low losses that even the much smaller extender int he Leaf doesn't heat up significantly under repeated fast charging and driving. But we'll be testing that.
They look like bombs LOL
Imressive though!
HI, this is good news, you got a web page? how can one arrange a service? phone email? price? thank you
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you want a truck to be built like a car, and the car like a truck? not many trucks have disc brakes and they are heavier, same for leaf springs the other way, not many trucks have coil springs etc.
Trucks have airbags and disc brakes
@@mattwoodproperty some do, yes, but not many, all the trucks I have worked on and owned have drum brakes and leaf springs. apparently discs cost twice the price.
Will George in the uk, discs are standard and drums are a special order. Leaf springs are ruled out as they damage the road.
@@mattwoodproperty sandersonleafsprings.co.uk/why-are-leaf-springs-used-in-trucks-instead-of-absorbers/ ?
Wonderful Bollywood horror movie introduction for 20% of it. Get on with it, without trying to be a camera operator.
The background music in this video seriously detracts from the viewing experience...
Again first :) Zero views. Have you seen on reddit. Someone made a addapter for 40KWh battery...
Gorazd Novsak can you post a link?
@@patrickhall4 www.reddit.com/r/leaf/comments/cor34d/a_quebec_company_has_an_adapter_for_leaf_packs/
You're only the 20th person to tell me :D
@@PowerElectronicsBlog so you are saying I given you a valuable information :)
@@gorazdnovsak3705 ... sure. But I'm still waiting for 20 people to tell me somebody put comma.ai or openpilot in a Leaf :D
Ни хрена не понял.
Cut down the intro.
Geef mij je nummer of e-mail doe je ook ionic
4:30 You really don't have a clue what you're talking about. LOL :-)
The wheel wells are covered (plastic) in the front. Precisely to silent the ride.
On the back there's nothing which produce a quite noisy experience.
If in doubt go for a ride without the covers. The difference is staggering. ;-)
Or even better if you can get some for the back the ride "quality" will benefit a lot.
BTW the lack of them is the first indication of a cheap option by the manufacturer. Same applies for the suspension, brakes...etc. All clear indicators of cost cutting.
Anyway nice video and presentation.
Cheers