Your mobile phone filming was great, you don't need to apologise for it! Amazing work by a specialist showing the way forward on EV maintenance, these videos are the best promotion and advertisement for Cleevely EVs service
Lovely job James, managed to get my Muxsan 01 leaf back driving on the road again. My precharge resistor mod appears to be holding up really well. Hopefully will see you guys some time in 2021.
Well done James, great to watch you at work. It was good to meet you on Friday & I am very grateful to you bringing my Zoe back to life with a new 12V.
CAN should ideally be wired with twisted-pair for maximum noise immunity. a twin twisted-pair cable (e.g. farnell 1387731 ) would have been neater than DIYing a cable with some random 2-core cables taped together
The van looked in really good condition underneath. Just recently watched a video on a one year old MG ZS and it did not look as rust free underneath as your Nissan.
Oh BTW, if anyone is considering buying the Nissan E-NV200 I highly recommend it! Great to drive, handles well, quiet and fairly brisk. Although be prepared for lots of annoying beeps and bongs and don't go too fast over speedbumps as the ride is very firm! PS Get the accent rapid model which has the 7kW onboard charger.
Dala has sorted out the software for the cam bridge recently sorting out the cooling of battery while charging and some over errors.also now open source
Just wondering if you could explain how you previously improved the battery health of the original 24kWh battery - was that my keeping the charge between 205 & 80%? Thanks for sharing the video.
You could do with an explanation at the beginning of why you had to add the extra wiring and what the canbridge is for. Nice range upgrade. :) One thing to consider is as you’ve changed the spec of the vehicle have you told your insurance company?
Do insurance companys care if you bring extra gas in a tank with you to your journey in an ICE vehicle? The weight difference is about that, like couple of extra gas tanks in boot. No performance upgrade was made.
It corrects the post-uografe intermittent range error and some offer extra functions including custom fast-charge settings to improve battery life for frequent fast-charge users 😉
Hi, Interesting upgrade. I am interested to know roughly how many miles you achieved between charge-ups. I have put in a journey from Epsom to Wigan and the evnavigation app is predicting a 227m journey with 7 charge-ups and about 33miles between charges (up to 80%) which seems a lot of stops... Is this what you experienced with the 24KWH battery?
It’s a shame Nissan didn’t give this van a better range as soon as it was possible. James what will your average long journey be? Cute van and a good size, not too big.
Looking at an ev at the moment for about 30k, do on a arrange of 100 miles a day but sometimes 200 miles don’t want anything to dull to drive so want it to be a bit of fun sometimes but comfortable too. Tried a 42kw i3 loved it to drive but a bit noisy and concerned on range especially in winter. What would you recommend?
so you could have went to the nearest supermarket and got a £10 sd card for the camera. So the old pack was 24 kWh and the new is 40 kWh. so how does this effect weight and so miles to kW. between both batteries. the underneath of the van looks like it could take a much longer battery than it has.
looks like a great Job thanks for sharing. As a said on your other video I am really thinking of doing this to my 2015 Van. Is that a brand new 40kWh battery going in or from a donor vehicle? Regarding range I get about 50miles on my 22kWh van at this time of year and about 70 max in the summer. That's will half load, roof rack and approx 85% SOH. I never take any notice of the 'guessometer' range in the van as it tells me I have 70miles in the morning. Would love to get a quote for this do I contact Chievely EV is that right?
Excellent video, would love to do this and an UBEX on my Evalia. But since it´s a bit scratched and dinged up it might just be easier to get one with the bigger battery. Problem is that used ones are rare as rocking horse shit and the factory new ones are bloody expensive.
@@Jamesandkate Maybe, but interior is not the tidiest, roof is buckled from roof rack making contact with solid object and the front left corner was hit by a snowplow. Was an electricians work van combined with family transport before I got it. Works well and got it for 60% cost for a tidy one. I haul muddy MTB´s, building material and all sorts of dirty garden stuff with it. Love it.
@@Jamesandkate btw, any opinion on the BYD T3 and M3 electric vans? Norway already got them and they are pretty much e-NV200's with 50+ kWh batteries, CCS and some other minor alterations.
@@Jamesandkate Thanks James. I have a chum with a new Leaf and he is always moaning about access to Chademo if he travels to France as most of the new rapids are CCS.
Great video. Thanks for making it. As you started with a good 24kWh battery, I am surprised you did not go for a UBEX from Muxsan. This would have given you less issues with rapidgate and faster charging? Unless you are planning on adding an UBEX later? How are you finding driving the eNV200 over long distances?
hmmmmm wonder if those battery packs could be retro fitted to a leaf ..... probably not, but it would be nice to have some thermal management on a leaf .... even if somewhat limited
Hi James thanks for the videos. Looking forward to your next ev review. This may seem a naive question but what are the chances of having your battery stolen from under your car when it is parked up somewhere perhaps a bit remote? I am aware that catalytic converters get stolen but there is a huge weight difference.
Interesting video thanks. One observation though, a bit too much tech jargon without explanation. No offence intended and long term fan of your channel, great work!
@@Jamesandkate Thanks, nothing major, just when you're talking about CanBus, HV, LV etc just a bit of explanation of what these do would be interesting. Just managing to film whilst doing a job such as this must be really tricky! Thanks for the content!
@@4wheelsgood canbus used as a communication protocol in cars from early 90s 🙂 for example from ECU (one of vehicles computers) messages it can tell you what's possibly wrong with your vehicle (say front parking light is gone, cylinder having misfire, etc); HV - High Voltage; LV - Low Voltage; Chademo is canbus based, that's how charging station communicates with vehicle; CCS is TCP/IP (same as internet, in a sense) based, and has many versions, and that's the reason why some CCS vehicles having issues with charging stations, when versions doesn't match
@@davefitzpatrick4841 ahhhhh so in so many ways its better to sell your e-nv and put the money toward a 40kwh van ? .... thats a shame . If it was 5K and there was still the value from the old battery pack it would have been a serious consideration
Hi James. Did you swaped PDM module from 3.6kVa to 6 kVa on env200? is there anything special for this swap? Does the PDM module from nissan leaf Aze0 2014+ fits to env200?
Good day! I guess I already asked you !? Tell me, is it possible to put a 62 kW battery in the e-HB200? What is the best way to do this? Move all the elements to the old case? Will there be room for a cooler? Thank you!
@@JonathanPorterfield yep, spot on. I'm currently chatting to Muxsan about swapping 40kWh Leaf modules in to a 24kWh eNV pack to increase range, but the BMS is completely different 🙄
Hi.. whats the approx (customer) cost for an eNV 24kwh to 40kwh upgrade? Mine doesnt have quick or rapid charging (so 3kw ish only) if that makes any difference.
@@vladzis Interesting. Might be worth considering with the 40kwh battery (not much point with the 24kwh as an overnight charge does the trick). Thanks.
@@dereknicol5284 if you get 24kWh one with the right price, it's cheaper to upgrade than go straight for 40kWh version. It's essentially same vehicle, just with bigger battery 🙂
James and Kate, Which car do you recommend second hand for around 20K? 1) Nissan Leaf 40kw 2) MG ZS EV 3) MG 5 EV Our family comprises; me, my wife, our 3 year old daughter and Maggie the big greyhound.
i would have added an ioniq 28 kWh mine can do 146 miles on full charge either SE with leather seats or standard you can get for under £19k it has a much better track record and will do as many miles as a leaf 40. it is also insurance group 16 / 17. the leaf has no battery management so will drop range faster over time. the MG Zs if you look at the petrol version which the electric is based on has high rust issues for older models. the only reason why the other pick the MG 5 is that it is newer and has dealt with a few problems the ZS had by either repair or just not having them on the car at all. you will find that an ioniq will over time be more reliable and have less issues. I would ask you to just consider it. over an MG or Leaf.
Not exactly, it's do to supply of used packs in the market, one day it could be this price and another this - business wouldn't like to promise price and then won't be able to match it due to higher pack pricr
there never is prices mentioned in any video. you don't get hours the job has taken said or even a range of time that it could take 3 to 4 hours to do depending on any problems. we should all know that each job and car can have problems and so cost more but a ball park figure would be nice. or people just think it cost so much that they would not buy an ev as the repair cost will be massive. which may not be any were near the truth
Would 62kWh be possible too? 150-200 miles on a van would be great! At a guess, they're probably still pricy as not many Leaf+ have crashed to extract the packs yet.
Even with the minor hiccups, you're still making this stuff look routine now. 👍😊
Your mobile phone filming was great, you don't need to apologise for it! Amazing work by a specialist showing the way forward on EV maintenance, these videos are the best promotion and advertisement for Cleevely EVs service
You guys make it look like a very straightforward process! That sort of range on a van is really useful.
What fantastic vids you guys are doing brilliant stuff.👍👍👍
The best camera you have is the one you have on you. Enjoying your videos keep it up!
Well done James, and I thought your camera work was great 👍🏻
Lovely job James, managed to get my Muxsan 01 leaf back driving on the road again. My precharge resistor mod appears to be holding up really well. Hopefully will see you guys some time in 2021.
Mobile picture great , clear and precise wouldn’t know it was from a phone 😊👍🤓
Well done James, great to watch you at work. It was good to meet you on Friday & I am very grateful to you bringing my Zoe back to life with a new 12V.
Hi Jo. Thanks for your comment. It was also a pleasure to meet you too. I'll see you for service next year 👌🏻
another good video. I wish there were more ev channels that are this sincere and honest.
Thank you ❤️
Great work guys
Very confidence inspiring; well done. 👏 👍
Thank you James, awesome :-)
CAN should ideally be wired with twisted-pair for maximum noise immunity. a twin twisted-pair cable (e.g. farnell 1387731 ) would have been neater than DIYing a cable with some random 2-core cables taped together
Just like UTP for the Ethernet?
True, twisted pair blue and green wires on this, easiest place is passenger footwell outer wall where the CAN is located, easy access 😉
These are your better videos hundreads of videos on Ev reviews not so many on Ev maintenance keep em comimg
The van looked in really good condition underneath. Just recently watched a video on a one year old MG ZS and it did not look as rust free underneath as your Nissan.
Oh BTW, if anyone is considering buying the Nissan E-NV200 I highly recommend it! Great to drive, handles well, quiet and fairly brisk. Although be prepared for lots of annoying beeps and bongs and don't go too fast over speedbumps as the ride is very firm! PS Get the accent rapid model which has the 7kW onboard charger.
Very informative indeed.
Dala has sorted out the software for the cam bridge recently sorting out the cooling of battery while charging and some over errors.also now open source
Great video James 👍🏻 Good news about Vauxhall at Ellesmere Port making EV vans 😃
Yes, excellent news indeed 👍🏻
I would love to see a comparison long trip of this and a 40kWh LEAF. I wonder how effective the cooling is!
Just wondering if you could explain how you previously improved the battery health of the original 24kWh battery - was that my keeping the charge between 205 & 80%? Thanks for sharing the video.
Great job.. do you know someone who has done the same with the renault zoe? swap from 22kwh battery to 41kwh battery?
You could do with an explanation at the beginning of why you had to add the extra wiring and what the canbridge is for. Nice range upgrade. :) One thing to consider is as you’ve changed the spec of the vehicle have you told your insurance company?
Do insurance companys care if you bring extra gas in a tank with you to your journey in an ICE vehicle? The weight difference is about that, like couple of extra gas tanks in boot. No performance upgrade was made.
It corrects the post-uografe intermittent range error and some offer extra functions including custom fast-charge settings to improve battery life for frequent fast-charge users 😉
Hi, Interesting upgrade. I am interested to know roughly how many miles you achieved between charge-ups. I have put in a journey from Epsom to Wigan and the evnavigation app is predicting a 227m journey with 7 charge-ups and about 33miles between charges (up to 80%) which seems a lot of stops... Is this what you experienced with the 24KWH battery?
Nice norwegian hat🥰
Can I get an update on the price for this upgrade. I'm hoping the market is now flooded with 40kw packs!!! Thanks for sharing
It’s a shame Nissan didn’t give this van a better range as soon as it was possible. James what will your average long journey be? Cute van and a good size, not too big.
Looking at an ev at the moment for about 30k, do on a arrange of 100 miles a day but sometimes 200 miles don’t want anything to dull to drive so want it to be a bit of fun sometimes but comfortable too. Tried a 42kw i3 loved it to drive but a bit noisy and concerned on range especially in winter. What would you recommend?
I have 2016 Techna 24KW and want to upgrade to 40KW are you doing this upgrade for others or was this a one-off for yourselves?
so you could have went to the nearest supermarket and got a £10 sd card for the camera.
So the old pack was 24 kWh and the new is 40 kWh.
so how does this effect weight and so miles to kW. between both batteries.
the underneath of the van looks like it could take a much longer battery than it has.
Why has the van got battery cooling while the similar Leaf hasnt?
What was Nissan's thinking behind this?
Soooo, how much money is this upgrade . and will it fit a 14 plate leaf ?
looks like a great Job thanks for sharing. As a said on your other video I am really thinking of doing this to my 2015 Van. Is that a brand new 40kWh battery going in or from a donor vehicle? Regarding range I get about 50miles on my 22kWh van at this time of year and about 70 max in the summer. That's will half load, roof rack and approx 85% SOH. I never take any notice of the 'guessometer' range in the van as it tells me I have 70miles in the morning. Would love to get a quote for this do I contact Chievely EV is that right?
Drop us an email to info@cleevelyev.co.uk and we can help you out 👍🏻
Excellent video, would love to do this and an UBEX on my Evalia. But since it´s a bit scratched and dinged up it might just be easier to get one with the bigger battery. Problem is that used ones are rare as rocking horse shit and the factory new ones are bloody expensive.
Indeed. The ubex is next in for us. Surely the Evalia is worth the paint and repairs? Especially with the range upgrade??
@@Jamesandkate Maybe, but interior is not the tidiest, roof is buckled from roof rack making contact with solid object and the front left corner was hit by a snowplow.
Was an electricians work van combined with family transport before I got it.
Works well and got it for 60% cost for a tidy one. I haul muddy MTB´s, building material and all sorts of dirty garden stuff with it. Love it.
@@Jamesandkate btw, any opinion on the BYD T3 and M3 electric vans?
Norway already got them and they are pretty much e-NV200's with 50+ kWh batteries, CCS and some other minor alterations.
Excellent as always James. Is there a possibility of retrofitting a CCS charge port on a new leaf?
Anything is possible, but I'm not sure if we'll be offering that anytime soon.
@@Jamesandkate Thanks James. I have a chum with a new Leaf and he is always moaning about access to Chademo if he travels to France as most of the new rapids are CCS.
Its not just a case of changing the socket. The software for Chademo and CCS are different.
@@MarkAtkin Hi, Yes I realise that, but it may be possible and a solution to a potential future issue.
Great video. Thanks for making it. As you started with a good 24kWh battery, I am surprised you did not go for a UBEX from Muxsan. This would have given you less issues with rapidgate and faster charging? Unless you are planning on adding an UBEX later? How are you finding driving the eNV200 over long distances?
Think so, James mentioned (starting @5:42) putting the original pack back in and getting an UBEX. So this might just be a training exercise.
Indeed. The UBEX is going in too. Just waiting on time to do it 🙄
hmmmmm wonder if those battery packs could be retro fitted to a leaf ..... probably not, but it would be nice to have some thermal management on a leaf .... even if somewhat limited
Muxsan is working on it
As far as I understand, CAN-bridge is there for signal translation purposes. But isn't it possible to map necessary lines of code directly into ECU?
Correct.
I would have gotten an E-NV if they had the same battery uppgrades as the Leaf, but as it still got 2 duracells under the floor, it's just a toy car
What happens with the old battery?
Hi James thanks for the videos. Looking forward to your next ev review. This may seem a naive question but what are the chances of having your battery stolen from under your car when it is parked up somewhere perhaps a bit remote?
I am aware that catalytic converters get stolen but there is a huge weight difference.
It's 300kg, so you cannot just undo it and take it with you to the boot 😁 without a lift - it would take a while to disconnect the battery
I mean, anything is possible, but to remove the pack on the roadside is a big task. It's not something that concerns me tbh.
@@Jamesandkate yeah as I thought it would be a bit of a mammoth job. Thanks for your reply.
@@keithware5314 they’d steal the van before the battery.
How much for upgrade the battery, I have a Nissan nv200?
How much did the upgrade cost?
What would the cost be to do this?
Nice job there, James. What is the capacity of the replacement battery?
He stated it in the video. 40kWh.
@@cjmillsnun Thanks. I missed it.
No mention of the battery ID coding error with battery swap? Need to clear with software app or van stays in limp-mode?
If you're attempting a battery swap and you don't have diagnostic kit, you probably shouldn't be doing it.
Interesting video thanks. One observation though, a bit too much tech jargon without explanation. No offence intended and long term fan of your channel, great work!
No offence taken. Which in particular would you change??
@@Jamesandkate Thanks, nothing major, just when you're talking about CanBus, HV, LV etc just a bit of explanation of what these do would be interesting. Just managing to film whilst doing a job such as this must be really tricky! Thanks for the content!
@@4wheelsgood canbus used as a communication protocol in cars from early 90s 🙂 for example from ECU (one of vehicles computers) messages it can tell you what's possibly wrong with your vehicle (say front parking light is gone, cylinder having misfire, etc); HV - High Voltage; LV - Low Voltage;
Chademo is canbus based, that's how charging station communicates with vehicle; CCS is TCP/IP (same as internet, in a sense) based, and has many versions, and that's the reason why some CCS vehicles having issues with charging stations, when versions doesn't match
I am considering this for my van. Can I ask what the cost of the upgrade is and how did it affect your insurance being a modification?
It's technically not a modification, V5 doesn't need to be updated as well
40kwh is £8.5k I believe .
@@davefitzpatrick4841 Hopefully they'll find some more 40kwh batteries as they currently can't offer me this service.
@@davefitzpatrick4841 ahhhhh
so in so many ways its better to sell your e-nv and put the money toward a 40kwh van ? .... thats a shame . If it was 5K and there was still the value from the old battery pack it would have been a serious consideration
Hi James. Did you swaped PDM module from 3.6kVa to 6 kVa on env200? is there anything special for this swap? Does the PDM module from nissan leaf Aze0 2014+ fits to env200?
Ther PDM was already 6.6 and yes, they're a straight swap to the eNV
@@Jamesandkate Thanks. Would you think, that PDM 292C0-3NF3D will function on japan/british env200 (2014 year)?
@@Jamesandkate answering my question. Yes, this pdm is recognized and works perfectly on env200 czcams.com/video/QJkW425g6RE/video.html
Good day! I guess I already asked you !?
Tell me, is it possible to put a 62 kW battery in the e-HB200?
What is the best way to do this? Move all the elements to the old case? Will there be room for a cooler?
Thank you!
It’s not possible. We’ve looked in to this on numerous occasions 😐
@@Jamesandkate Then how to increase battery power? Maybe a new box in the spare wheel area?
Could you put the 62 battery from a leaf in the newer model?
Leaf and ENV200 have incompatible batteries.
So the 40kWh pack came from another eNV200 as the leaf 40s pack doesnt have ac into the pack ?
Only bottom enclosure part is different (Type C), so all AC can be transferred later on. James would be the best to confirm, as I may be wrong
@@vladzis none of the leaf has any thermal management so no ac into the battery pack on Leaf packs.
@@JonathanPorterfield yep, spot on. I'm currently chatting to Muxsan about swapping 40kWh Leaf modules in to a 24kWh eNV pack to increase range, but the BMS is completely different 🙄
Is there a story behind the Norway hat?
Yes, it's warm and I love Norway ❤️
Is there an option for a range extender to add to an existing 24kwh battery?
Yes there is.
@@Jamesandkate any idea on cost
Hi.. whats the approx (customer) cost for an eNV 24kwh to 40kwh upgrade? Mine doesnt have quick or rapid charging (so 3kw ish only) if that makes any difference.
You can get 6.6kW unit for £1000, ish, and these guys can do a swap pretty fast (it's few bolts, and connections).
@@vladzis Interesting. Might be worth considering with the 40kwh battery (not much point with the 24kwh as an overnight charge does the trick). Thanks.
@@dereknicol5284 if you get 24kWh one with the right price, it's cheaper to upgrade than go straight for 40kWh version. It's essentially same vehicle, just with bigger battery 🙂
James and Kate,
Which car do you recommend second hand for around 20K?
1) Nissan Leaf 40kw
2) MG ZS EV
3) MG 5 EV
Our family comprises;
me, my wife, our 3 year old daughter and Maggie the big greyhound.
MG5!
MG5 all the way 👌🏻
i would have added an ioniq 28 kWh mine can do 146 miles on full charge either SE with leather seats or standard you can get for under £19k
it has a much better track record and will do as many miles as a leaf 40.
it is also insurance group 16 / 17.
the leaf has no battery management so will drop range faster over time.
the MG Zs if you look at the petrol version which the electric is based on has high rust issues for older models.
the only reason why the other pick the MG 5 is that it is newer and has dealt with a few problems the ZS had by either repair or just not having them on the car at all. you will find that an ioniq will over time be more reliable and have less issues. I would ask you to just consider it. over an MG or Leaf.
No price mentioned for this service suggests it’s expensive.
The positives for driving electric are fading somewhat .
I don’t know, stopping people dying from breathing our burned fossil fuel is still a positive!
Not exactly, it's do to supply of used packs in the market, one day it could be this price and another this - business wouldn't like to promise price and then won't be able to match it due to higher pack pricr
there never is prices mentioned in any video. you don't get hours the job has taken said or even a range of time that it could take 3 to 4 hours to do depending on any problems.
we should all know that each job and car can have problems and so cost more but a ball park figure would be nice. or people just think it cost so much that they would not buy an ev as the repair cost will be massive. which may not be any were near the truth
Would 62kWh be possible too? 150-200 miles on a van would be great! At a guess, they're probably still pricy as not many Leaf+ have crashed to extract the packs yet.
62kWh battery slightly different shape and an inch higher, making it as NO, if you want plug and play option, as e-NV200 battery sits low already
How did you make the SOH go up? I just bought a env200 at 79%
Plenty of rapid charges and use.
@@Jamesandkate can't tell if you're being sarcastic 🤣
SOH was written down on the pack 😊
can you put a leaf 62 kwh battery in it?
No, it's an inch lower, and different shape. 40kWh is plug and play in terms of installation
In physical size, yes. There's a kit to adapt it. However, the BMS and cooling fitted to the eNV isn't the same in a 62, 40, 30 or 24kWh Leaf pack.
@@Jamesandkate and have you the know how/experience, to get around all these issues yet?